1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: All right, Hello Darren our new co host of Friar 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: Territory with Marty Caswell and Heath Fell. You are a 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: twenty here San Diego sports talk veteran, which means you 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: can give us your take on a lot of things 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: we've been talking about so far today. Let's start with 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: Nick Castianos and what happened with that whole situation. Do 7 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: you think that he is going to be a good 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: fit in that clubhouse? We've given our opinion, we think 9 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: he will be. What do you think? 10 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: Absolutely? Thank you for having me first and foremost, And 11 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 2: I certainly wasn't going to bring up that Manny Machado 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 2: is a Danny Lozano client, So yeah, I was not. 13 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 2: I was just going to bite my tongue on that 14 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: and certainly keep my opinions about Indiana football to myself 15 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: for now. Hey, Yeah, I do think he's a good fit, 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: I Daron. 17 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 3: Do you think that Indiana Sorry, before we dig in, 18 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 3: do you think that Indiana really packed into the code 19 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 3: so they knew all the plays of the other team 20 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 3: for the first fifteen plays they scripted them because that 21 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 3: was a thing for a while. 22 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: This is a real charge, So you're jus you. 23 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 24 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I'm a college basketball guy myself. I 25 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: went to Saint I know a thing or two about 26 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 2: faded glory like Indiana, right, Like Saint John's used to 27 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: be a really good basketball program. So I feel like 28 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: there's a little bit of a kindred spirit ship to that. 29 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 2: So I'm just glad that my my alma mater is 30 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 2: back and respectable with Rick Patino. So that's that's all 31 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 2: I have to say. I didn't go to a college 32 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 2: football school. Hey, well, we're back in Roland. Come on, even. 33 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: That's an interesting take. 34 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 2: Absolutely, of course, kidding. That's a legend third all time. 35 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: I mean that's third all time on the all time 36 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: winnesdast this past weekend against Providence. So never mind that 37 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: little brawl thing that happened in the stands at Providence. 38 00:01:55,280 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, anyhow, Nick Casteanos, Yeah why not? I mean, 39 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: why not have him here? You know, we've gone through 40 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: some interesting characters in San Diego, led by Manny Machado, 41 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 2: who he himself is an interesting cat and he's a 42 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 2: South Florida guy. He's got a little bit of that 43 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: Miami three h five swag to him. And this is 44 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: his guy from South Florida, So why not bring him 45 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: into the mix. Certainly we've had some some interesting dudes 46 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: rolled through this clubhouse and now he is added to 47 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 2: the list. So it didn't take much time. Uh, it 48 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: certainly seemed like it was, uh you know, something that 49 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 2: was done before it was even announced. There was rumors 50 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 2: around the Potter's that this was going to happen. So uh, yeah, 51 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 2: I think it'll work, especially if the price is right, 52 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 2: and it sounds like it is. You know, it's not 53 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: a massive investment from the pottery standpoint financially, so why 54 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 2: not give it a run here and see what you 55 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: can get out of this guy? Add him into the 56 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 2: mix and let it go. 57 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 4: What do you need to see from Nick Castia something? 58 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 4: I'm talking about the clubhouse presence, Like I think all 59 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 4: that stuff is just totally blown out of proportion over over, 60 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 4: you know, a single not a single instance, but like 61 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 4: just what was going going on in Philly. To me, 62 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 4: it has to work out because if he doesn't hit 63 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 4: for and I'm going to have you fill in the 64 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 4: blank X amount of time, how soon does Nick Costiano's 65 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 4: get shipped out and they go to the next guy 66 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 4: at first base or next guy at DH because that's 67 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 4: how it's gonna work out. He's either going to be 68 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 4: awesome and he's going to keep the position, or he's 69 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 4: gonna stink and they're gonna get rid of him. 70 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 2: Right, one hundred percent, especially based on the financial commitment 71 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 2: of eight hundred grand or a little bit less then, 72 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that's exactly it. And you know 73 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 2: this because of recent history. You know this because of 74 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: Jason Hayward. You know this because of different players that 75 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 2: have rolled through here that aj Preller has placed a 76 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: bet on AG's kind of like buying scratch off tickets. 77 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 2: You know when you go to the like the local market, 78 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 2: and you know sometimes those scratch off tickets are not 79 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: worth anything. You spend a dollar or two dollars or 80 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: five dollars, sometimes you scratch off the twenty bucks, the 81 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: fifty bucks, the hundred bucks. 82 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: You know. 83 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: He had that a couple of years ago with Jerkson profile, right, 84 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: that was one that really resulted in a productive player 85 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: who contributed, who was a great clubhouse presence. Everything worked. 86 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 2: People were sad that Jerks and Profar didn't re sign 87 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 2: with the Potteries, even though people understood the economics other guys, 88 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 2: guys like Jason Hayward, you know, as I mentioned Connor 89 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: Joe last year, just to name a few, Yuli Guriel. There, 90 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 2: these are players that it didn't work. So you just 91 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 2: move on, you know, you move on quickly, and I 92 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: think that that will happen with Costaiano's. But in terms 93 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 2: of what you're looking for here, you're looking for something 94 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: that the Potteries didn't have last year, which is which 95 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 2: is power slug. You know, even in a down year, 96 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 2: Costaiano's provided seventeen home runs for the Phillies. I know, 97 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: different ballpark, but still I think at this stage of 98 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: his career, you know, he's he's comparable in some ways 99 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 2: to some of those players that I just mentioned, but 100 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 2: he's also younger than some of those guys. So I 101 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: think it's a worthwhile investment. And what he said initially 102 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 2: I think matters. You know, he talked a little bit 103 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: about wanting to fit in right, Like I, Okay, I 104 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 2: had this situation in the Phillies clubhouse where I my 105 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: role changed and maybe it wasn't communicated that was that clubhouse, 106 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: that's not this clubhouse. So they're gonna figure this out together, 107 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: what the role is going to be is going to 108 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 2: be dh It's gonna be a little bit of first. 109 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 2: They're gonna work on that together. He seems open minded 110 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: to whatever it is that the coaching staff wants to 111 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: put in front of him. And he also talked about 112 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,239 Speaker 2: being in a winning environment. He talked about the city 113 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 2: of San Diego. He talked about how much a sun 114 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 2: loves eating tacos in the cast lamp. So he comes 115 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: from a winning environment. He comes from from you know, 116 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 2: good fans support, and that's exactly what he's gonna get here. 117 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 2: And when you say something like, hey, the team's never 118 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 2: won a World Series, that matters to me. I want 119 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 2: to help him try to get there, people are like, yeah, okay, cool, 120 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 2: this is starting off on the right foot. 121 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 4: Statistically, the Padres didn't strike out much. They're getting they 122 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 4: lost their first basement who never struck out, and now 123 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 4: they're going to possibly a new first basement in Nick Castianos, 124 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 4: who does strike out. It's not historic rates, but it's 125 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 4: a you know, it's a it's a contact driven team. 126 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 4: Does his skill set just rely on the Hey, if 127 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 4: you don't hit the ball out of the ballpark, we 128 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 4: have a bunch of guys that already do what you 129 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 4: do at a much lower strikeout rate. So is that 130 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 4: really where it's at. Does he need to pop five 131 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 4: homers in the month of April to be able to 132 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 4: stay on this team. 133 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 2: I don't know that there's a number for it. But 134 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 2: I also think, you know, maybe the offensive identity is 135 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: going to change a little bit from where it was 136 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 2: last year. Right, So, yeah, they were contact, they didn't 137 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: strike out, but they also didn't pop, they didn't hit 138 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 2: home runs. They were twenty second in slugging, they were 139 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: twenty eighth in home runs hit. Right, That's a pretty 140 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,559 Speaker 2: big deal. And some of that, obviously is Jackson Merrill 141 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 2: being injured. Some of that is you know, hey, getting 142 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 2: a full season from Ramon Loriano, what kind of player 143 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 2: we're going to get with Tatist this year. All these 144 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 2: things you know that we're going to talk about throughout 145 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 2: spring training and into the regular season. But I do 146 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: think when you're hitting, coach is on another squad, now 147 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: off to the Houston Astris he goes, and your manager 148 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 2: who called, you know, more sacrifice buns that anybody in baseball? 149 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 2: Does anybody really want to lead the league in sacrifice bunts? 150 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 2: The Potterys did last year. I do think that that 151 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 2: at the end of the year there was definitely an 152 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 2: idea that there would be a new approach to how 153 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 2: you were constructing your offense. So is it going to 154 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 2: be exactly the same with a new hitting coach and 155 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: a new manager. 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Apparently, 192 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: when Manny Machado speaks, people immediately listen, right, because isn't 193 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: that how it went right? Machado was lobbying for him. 194 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: What was it just yesterday asking why they hadn't signed 195 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: him to an extension yet, and look they delivered. Your 196 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: thoughts on that, Darren. 197 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 2: I think it's a good thing. Yeah, I mean, maybe 198 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: Manny's going to be the next owner of the Potters. 199 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 2: Right the team is for sale, so you know, maybe 200 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 2: what Manny's saying here is this is the way I 201 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: want things to operate, and it's Manny's team now. Yeah, 202 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 2: I think that that there was some questions about the 203 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 2: future of the franchise in terms of what it's going 204 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 2: to look like after a sale. Team is for sale, 205 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 2: it's expected to be sold here potentially in the next 206 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 2: couple of months. So from that standpoint, HJ. Preler, I 207 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 2: think is one hundred percent committed to the city. I 208 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 2: think he wants to finish what he started here. I 209 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 2: do feel like there is a real connection, you know, 210 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 2: to him. I think he takes it seriously when he 211 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 2: talks about honoring Peter Seiler, the late owner's legacy. I 212 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 2: think that that really isn't just something that you say. 213 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 2: It's not just a hashtag for a J Preller. I 214 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: think he really means that, So I think he does 215 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 2: want to see this through, and I think that's that's 216 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 2: a good thing. I wasn't always confident that this was 217 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 2: gonna happen. Towards the tail end of last year, you know, 218 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: you thought, maybe, you know, if things didn't work out, 219 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 2: was there going to be an opportunity to to just say, 220 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 2: let's just shake this thing up and change things. Because 221 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 2: we've given it as you know, as far a rope 222 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 2: as we could possibly give it. Preller has has been 223 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: the GM for for for playoff appearances in six years. 224 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 2: That's not been done in this franchise's history. This franchise 225 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 2: doesn't have great history, but it's not been done. It's 226 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 2: been to the NLCS one time. And yeah, I think 227 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 2: he wants to finish the job. I thought that this 228 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 2: was the right pathway for the Potters to take. I 229 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 2: think the players agree. I think that you know, this 230 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 2: is this is even though we talk about the lack 231 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 2: of consistency in the manager's office, I think Preller is, 232 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 2: you know, certainly somebody who Pottery fans have come to like. 233 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 2: And I think he's been big part of what the 234 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 2: success of the San Diego Potters is from a business standpoint, 235 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: you know, this club is probably going to fetch north 236 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: of two billion dollars when it is that it's eventually sold. 237 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that's all directly related to the 238 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 2: president of Baseball Operations and general manager, but I think 239 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: he's played a role in that. There's a lot of 240 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 2: Machado jerseys in this city. There's a lot of Tatis 241 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 2: jerseys in the city, so you know people, there's a 242 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 2: lot of people who wear oddly enough AJ Preller t 243 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 2: shirts and AJ we trust right, So like, I think 244 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 2: he has become an important figure here. You know, if 245 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 2: the if it had run its course and that the 246 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 2: you know, the next owner decides this isn't what he 247 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 2: wants to continue with, then find so be it. But 248 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 2: I think it's a good day for the Podres. You know, 249 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 2: I think it's the right decision. And you know, I 250 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: think he's a guy even even if the purse strings 251 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 2: have been closed just a little bit here over the 252 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 2: last couple of years. I mean we're talking about, you know, 253 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 2: being able to get Costeianos in here, some of the 254 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 2: starting pitching that they've been able to get in here. 255 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 2: He can build a farm system. He can use that 256 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 2: farm system as trade capital if he doesn't have money 257 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 2: to go out there and spend on free agents like 258 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 2: he did last year at the deadline and bring in 259 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 2: in Mason Miller. So, uh, you know, I think this 260 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 2: is a good day for the Padres, and it certainly 261 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 2: seems like a lot of the players, based on the reaction, 262 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 2: believe the same. 263 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 3: Why why does foul Territory not have a shirt that 264 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 3: says in AJ we trust. That's what I want to know. 265 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 3: I mean, every Padre fan should have it. They would 266 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 3: buy it and we could sell it, right, Yeah. 267 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 5: We don't know. 268 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 2: I will, I will get our best people on that, you. 269 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 3: Know, chop dot com and Friar Territory dot com out. 270 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: Of them shirts. I mean, of course you Hinch Preller, right, 271 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 2: I mean there's yeah, I mean it's this could this 272 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 2: could serve multiple locations in multiple markets. 273 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 3: We were this close by the way to having me, 274 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 3: Preller and hinsch on at the same time, but Preller 275 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 3: walked away instead of coming over. We had Hincheon, Preller 276 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 3: walked by, and I'm like, we could set a world 277 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 3: record for ajs on television at the same time. 278 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 2: Now you're you're Andrew John. Is that right, Anthony, Anthony 279 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 2: John Anthony, I'm sorry, he's Arthur John. I believe so. 280 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 2: I don't know what what hinches off the top of 281 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 2: my head, but yeah, that would have been I mean, 282 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 2: that'd be solid. I think that's good marketing right there. 283 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 2: Let's get the foul territory people on them. True. 284 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 4: All right, Well, I'm going to ask about Arthur John 285 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 4: here one last question. You don't how many managers? Because 286 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 4: maybe national fans don't know how many managers he's been through. 287 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 4: You kind of glazed over a little bit. Do you 288 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 4: know the number what Craig Staman is for aj Pereller's 289 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 4: reign as general manager? 290 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 2: Are we talking about full time managers or interim managers? 291 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 2: How would you like to break this down? 292 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 4: I'm going to count Rod Barajas's one in seven record 293 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 4: as one of the X amount of managers? 294 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 2: Do we give Dave Roberts for one or two games 295 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: back in twenty fifteen? Do we give him run? I 296 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 2: can rattle them off. He inherited Buddy Black, who's back 297 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 2: in the organization. Dave Roberts then was an interim for 298 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 2: a day or two. Pat Murphy finished the twenty fifteen season. 299 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 2: Twenty sixteen was Andy Green that took us till the 300 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 2: end of twenty nineteen when Rod Barajas took over for 301 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 2: eight games. Then in twenty twenty it was Jase Tindler. 302 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 2: Tingler went through twenty and twenty one, then came in 303 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: Bob Melvin. Bob Melvin two seasons, Mike Schilt two seasons, 304 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 2: and now Craig Staffan nine nine. 305 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 4: For everybody who was not watching me, count with my 306 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 4: fingers because I can't count that high. A general manager 307 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 4: that goes through that many managers has clearly built a 308 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 4: product on the field. But in AJ we trust shirts, 309 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 4: shouldn't that be a shirt that is in our organization 310 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 4: we trust? And maybe AJ's taking a little bit too 311 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 4: much of the front line or whatever it is. And 312 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 4: is he the one that could be getting in the 313 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 4: way for them to truly take that next step? Because 314 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 4: this roster. Nobody denies this roster. There's holes in every roster, 315 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 4: but he's built this roster. Should he get out of 316 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 4: the way. Should he have somebody that says, AJ, stop 317 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 4: for one second, we got this. 318 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 2: I think it's fair. I do I think that's that's 319 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 2: fair to wonder when you've burned through a manager who's 320 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 2: a three time Manager of the Year, another manager who 321 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 2: walks away. I mean back to back managers have just 322 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 2: walked away from this job, right, I mean, what is 323 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 2: that telling us here? At that Bob Melvin decided, Yeah, 324 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 2: I just I've had enough. Get out of here. Mike 325 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 2: Schultz like, get me back into the minor leagues. I 326 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 2: think I've I think this has run its course. You know, 327 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 2: maybe those are our situations that are independent of themselves. 328 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: You know, maybe there's some connective tissue there. I think 329 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 2: everyone is sort of different, right, you inherit Buddy Black 330 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 2: and you know, it always felt like Buddy, on a 331 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 2: expiring contract, was probably not going to make it unless 332 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 2: that twenty fifteen season was something special and it wasn't 333 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: heading in the right direction. Andy Green was sort of 334 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 2: here for development. I don't know that they looked at 335 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 2: Andy Green as somebody who you know, they really thought, 336 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 2: by the way, the only manager under a J. Preller 337 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 2: to get an extension. Oddly enough, so the Tingler thing 338 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 2: that the clubhouse in twenty twenty one kind of went 339 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 2: south on him, and I put the organization in a 340 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 2: funky place where I think, you know, a decision was 341 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 2: made that maybe maybe Preller got a little out ranked on, 342 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 2: you know, then you bring in somebody like Melvin he leaves, 343 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 2: So I think they're all a bit different. But I 344 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: also think it's fair to say, what is the problem here? 345 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 2: Why can you not every time you introduce somebody one 346 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 2: of these press conferences you claim that you know, you 347 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 2: want this guy to be the manager for the next 348 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 2: ten years, and then two years later we're doing the 349 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 2: same thing over again. I think that there's been plenty 350 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 2: of reporting on some of AJ Preller what's been described 351 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 2: to some micromanaging. The way he wants things done seems 352 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 2: very unique. That you know, he is pretty hands on 353 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: in certain drills and things and ways that he wants 354 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: the club to operate. So it's not for everybody, you know, 355 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 2: it's definitely not for everybody. These managers, one after another 356 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 2: will tell you stories about standing in their culdesacs at 357 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: two in the morning taking phone calls from AJ Preller 358 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 2: about this that the other thing. Like, you know, he 359 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 2: operates and marches to the beat of a totally different drum. 360 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 2: So I'm kind of curious to see how this is 361 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 2: going to work with Craig Stalmon, a guy who's never 362 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 2: done it before, guy who's been a career relief pitcher. 363 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 2: I mean, is this finally the secret sauce that he 364 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 2: needs for somebody that he has alignment with? You know, 365 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 2: I I'm curious to see what that looks like. You know, 366 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 2: seems to to at least pass the eye test early 367 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 2: on Craig Stamon in terms of standing up there, looking 368 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 2: comfortable at the podium, et cetera. So but yeah, I mean, 369 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 2: I think it's been a valid criticism of it. Why 370 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 2: is it that you burned through all of these guys? 371 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 2: What is it about working with you that that has 372 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 2: these guys literally quitting these jobs? You know, like, what 373 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 2: what is that? But for the most part, I think 374 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 2: that the fans just enjoy the energy, They enjoy the buzz, 375 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 2: right like, like he's an action guy. Things happen, you know, 376 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 2: think about even what's happened here over the last couple 377 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 2: of days, whether it's been Costiano's or Canningham Orquez. Like 378 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 2: he's an action guy, and like we we all rely 379 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 2: on that in the media because it gives us plenty 380 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 2: of juice and he provides that sizzle, so you know 381 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 2: there's also some stake that goes with the sizzle as well. 382 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 2: But I think it's a fair criticism, like what happens here, 383 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 2: Why do these guys keep doing it? And at what 384 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 2: point do you run out of Well, I've got the 385 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 2: next candidate that I think I'm going to be in 386 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 2: perfect alignment with because we haven't quite hit that never never. 387 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe that's it. Maybe that's just a strategy of like, 388 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 2: let's just keep turning it over and see what we 389 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 2: can get out of these guys for a couple of years. 390 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 2: I don't know that I fully understand it. When I 391 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 2: came here, Bruce Bochie was the manager and you know, 392 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 2: still the best manager that I've covered. So I prefer 393 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 2: the consistency. AJ claims that as well, But the actions 394 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 2: every other year tell us a different story. 395 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 1: Perhaps it's the two am cul de sat conversations. We're 396 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: only human, we can only take so many of those. 397 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: All right, you touched on it briefly earlier, But what 398 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: is the update on the sale process. We know that 399 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: it's supposed to come to a conclusion here over the 400 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: next few months. 401 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 2: So John Siler, who's the acting chairman spoke today at 402 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 2: the Peoria Sports Complex, where the Pottery spring training site 403 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 2: is located, and said some very vague commentary. You know, hey, 404 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 2: we have interest. There's been some reports I'm sure that 405 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 2: have been discussed here and elsewhere about some of the names. 406 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 2: You know, whether that's you know, names that have been 407 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 2: associated more with European soccer, or whether that's Joe Lake 408 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 2: up from the Golden State Warriors. You know, these are 409 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 2: the names that have been reported on. I suspect there's 410 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 2: probably one or two that that we haven't heard of. 411 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 2: But you know, there's been some some local reporting about 412 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 2: prospective prospect you know, potential owners getting towards the Pecka Park, 413 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 2: you know, walking around taking a peak, seeing what's what, 414 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 2: How far down the road anybody's gone in terms of 415 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 2: what are the finances. Look, has anybody taken this further 416 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 2: enough or far enough that they've they've taken a peek 417 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 2: at the Pottery's books. Seems unclear at this point, but 418 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 2: based on what Rob Manfred said early this week or 419 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 2: late last week, there's interest. And you know around here, 420 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 2: the people that are in these circles, they tell you 421 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 2: like the interest is real, Like there's real, you know, 422 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 2: This isn't you know, just just trying to gin up 423 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 2: a little bit of activity or some rumors to get 424 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 2: people to jump in. It sounds like, you know, those 425 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 2: that are I don't operate in these billionaire spaces, but 426 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 2: those that are, even if they're out there on the fringe, 427 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 2: to tell you that the the interest is real, and 428 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 2: it sounds like something could be you know, sooner rather 429 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 2: than later. When this when this first was announced, I 430 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 2: thought this was going to be like a long drawn 431 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 2: out process, potentially after the CBA, just to make sure 432 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 2: you knew. But it sounds like there's a little bit 433 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 2: of a an urgency I suppose on behalf of the 434 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 2: side of the family, whether that's lawsuit related, whether that's 435 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 2: just like, hey, listen, you know, this isn't what we 436 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 2: signed up for. This is what our brother did, and 437 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 2: we're sort of just holding this down in the interim. 438 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 2: But you know, it does sound like like most people 439 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 2: who are involved in current capacity as ownership wants to 440 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 2: get go went here and move this forward and hopefully 441 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 2: leave the Padres in a you know, in a good situation, 442 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 2: which is where they were under under the late Great Peters. 443 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 3: Either Darren, you mentioned the money in the in the income. 444 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 3: I just want to know. I think the Padres they're 445 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 3: with MLB, I know that, But I think they're only 446 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 3: broadcasting two spring training games, I think, And are the 447 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 3: fans okay with that? Because I think the Padres are 448 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 3: one of the teams that used to do like almost 449 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 3: every spring training game and now they only I think 450 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 3: they're only doing two the entire spring? Is this the 451 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 3: new way of TV under MLB? And are Padrey fans 452 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 3: okay with only seeing possibly two of their spring training games? 453 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 2: No? And I think the television has been, uh, you know, 454 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 2: kind of a pain in the ass subject for a 455 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 2: lot of people, because you know what happened. They were 456 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 2: part of the Bally's group that blew up, and they 457 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 2: went from making sixty million dollars a deal, which you know, 458 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 2: sixty million a year, which is you know, which is 459 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 2: not a ton compared to some of the you know, 460 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 2: top markets right at Chicago, La. 461 00:21:59,119 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: Et cetera. 462 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 2: But now they went to one of the worst deals 463 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 2: in all the Major League Baseball And it's sort of fuzzy, 464 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 2: you know what this is looking like under Major League 465 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 2: Baseball's operation. You know, they're sort of a canary in 466 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 2: the coal mine type. Now, I think that that overall 467 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:19,719 Speaker 2: it's been frustrating, even for somebody like yours truly. I mean, 468 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 2: I PLoP down one hundred bucks a year just so 469 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 2: I know where I can get it. I can find it, 470 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 2: I can stream it through the MLB app. But I 471 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 2: think people would like to know that, you know, this 472 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 2: team is going to end up in a situation here 473 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 2: where where it's not lagging so far behind everybody else financially. 474 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 2: As far, I don't know how many games they're putting 475 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 2: on their stream for spring training. I know on the 476 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 2: radio side there's going to be some sort of stream 477 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 2: or radio broadcast for almost all of them, but in 478 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 2: terms of being able to watch them, seems like like 479 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 2: that's been a little bit complicated. And now it's MLB 480 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 2: and it's ESPN, and what does that mean for fans here? 481 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 2: I feel like the CEO of this team goes on 482 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 2: the radio on a pretty regular basis and has to 483 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 2: explain like, hey, this is this is what the deal 484 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 2: is with this We all understand, right, even us by 485 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 2: nature of being here and streaming, and you know, baseball 486 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 2: away it should be covered streaming. You know myself after 487 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 2: twenty years of doing local radio, Like you know, those 488 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 2: days are kind of in the past. But you know, 489 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 2: I do think it's just not been clear what it 490 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 2: is that's happening with the Podres and A what does 491 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 2: that mean for the product on the field, because so 492 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 2: much of your revenue is tied into this and into 493 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,239 Speaker 2: your local television revenue and you're not getting that and 494 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 2: you were getting that, And what is baseball doing to 495 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 2: make the situation a little bit better? And then b 496 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,479 Speaker 2: there's just a ton of confusion out there about how 497 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 2: these games, what channel are they on? Do if I 498 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 2: have Direct TV, or if I have this platform or 499 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 2: if I have that one. You know, I subscribed to 500 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 2: YouTube TV a couple of years ago because I was 501 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,239 Speaker 2: watching the World Series and like Joe Buck kept telling me, 502 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 2: or get YouTube TV, and I had the Podrais and 503 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 2: then I didn't, you know, from one year to the next, 504 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 2: and you know, every year it's like you have to 505 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 2: go through this roadmap trying to figure out how it 506 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 2: is that you're going to get the baseball game. So 507 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 2: it has been a real point of concern for the 508 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 2: Podreys and and you know, recently the CEO has to 509 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 2: just say Baseball's in charge. You know, that's a question 510 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 2: for MLB. Well, you know, good luck getting any answers there, 511 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 2: or any answers that are satisfactory. Like, we all can 512 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 2: live with the fact that how we consume content games 513 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 2: is changing. We all can live with that. But but 514 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:32,719 Speaker 2: you know, there just hasn't been like any any clarity exactly. Like, 515 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 2: you know, I don't want to be told that I 516 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 2: have to change everything. You know, I don't want to 517 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 2: have to tell my wife that she's got to like 518 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,479 Speaker 2: lose her whole library on YouTube TV so we can 519 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 2: switch to another platform so that we can watch the Podreys. 520 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 2: And and I'm not alone in that. So you know, 521 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 2: it's been frustrating over the last couple of years since 522 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 2: the ballet implosion, and it just feels like the Podrays 523 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 2: have been one of those teams that's been you know, 524 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 2: at the front of well, baseball is going to take 525 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: care of this now, and and you know, nobody feels 526 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 2: like we're in a better situation today than we were 527 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 2: three years ago. 528 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: All Right, Darren Smith, we appreciate the time, We appreciate 529 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: the insights. Thanks for joining us. 530 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate it