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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody to hour three of The

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. A lot more to

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Speaker 1: get to today with all of you, want to remind

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Speaker 1: you to please go to Clay and Buck dot com

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Speaker 1: for updates, clips post. I mean, Clay's been talking about it.

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Speaker 1: We've had such a rock star lineup of guests this week.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's pretty amazing. We had Rob O'Neill on today,

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Speaker 1: the man who was of course Special Operations Command Navy

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Speaker 1: seal killed Bin Laden part of that Abadabad raid. He

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Speaker 1: had some very uh that we say, memorable insights about

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Speaker 1: well basically he was dropping bombs about dropping bombs. Yes, fantadsom.

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Speaker 1: And we also have had on Matt walshman Deli Wire,

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Speaker 1: Tommy larn from Fox Nation. All of that available at

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Speaker 1: Clay and Buck dot com, so do check that out.

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Speaker 1: Also follow us respectively on social media. I'm at Buck Sexton,

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Speaker 1: he's at Travis on Twitter and Facebook and all that

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Speaker 1: good stuff. We're just talking about how Carrie Underwood got

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Speaker 1: in a little bit of hot water for liking a

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Speaker 1: Matt Walsh post. So it's like the world all comes

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Speaker 1: together here, Clay, And really what we need to do

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Speaker 1: is get Joe Rogan to join us sometime to talk

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Speaker 1: about how we begin, and it's I want this to

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Speaker 1: be a non partisan anti Faucii revolution. We talked earlier

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Speaker 1: about We've been talking all week about what's the long

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Speaker 1: range impact of this Afghanistan situation. In particular Buck. What

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Speaker 1: we're talking about is, is this such a disaster that

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Speaker 1: it starts to impact Joe Biden domestically and connect with

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Speaker 1: all the failures that he has here, or have we

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Speaker 1: become such a hyper polarized society that there's not a

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Speaker 1: lot of movement. Right The people who are Democrats are

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Speaker 1: going to stay on Joe Biden's team. The people who

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Speaker 1: I've been curious whether some of those middle of the

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, those suburban voters. You go look at the data,

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Speaker 1: that's where Trump lost this election. To the extent that

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Speaker 1: seem like they're starting to abandon Joe Biden. And we

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Speaker 1: talked about this earlier. Thirteen percent of Democrats would vote

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Speaker 1: for Donald Trump today who voted for Joe Biden back

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty in November. So are we now set

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Speaker 1: for a real abandonment of Joe Biden. Remember Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 1: We haven't heard from her in a week. She's disappeared.

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Speaker 1: We've only heard from Joe Biden once. As this Afghanistan

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Speaker 1: crisis plays out, all of the military advisors and all

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Speaker 1: of the national security people are pointing the finger front

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Speaker 1: page of Wall Street Journal, front page of the New

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Speaker 1: York Times. They're saying, we told Joe Biden what would

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Speaker 1: happen if he did this? And he did it anyway,

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Speaker 1: they're all jumping away. We've actually got our friend Amber

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Speaker 1: Smith joining us now as promised. Amber is somebody who

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Speaker 1: understands the Beyond the Horizon counter terrorism mission very well.

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Speaker 1: Though she was in country in Afghanistan as part of

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Speaker 1: our efforts there as part of the fight against the Taliban.

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Speaker 1: She was a Kiowa helicopter combat pilot. She was also

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Speaker 1: a Department of Defense official under the Trump administration. Amber

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for making time for us. Of course,

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Speaker 1: Grace be with you. So we're hearing a lot about

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Speaker 1: a Kai while under stands how the aerial assets will

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Speaker 1: So we have, you know, all the best capabilities in

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Speaker 1: We've got strike groups in the region in the Middle East.

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Speaker 1: We have B fifty two bombers at Ludd and Qatar.

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Speaker 1: Then we have multiple other air bases UAE Kuwait, multiple

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Speaker 1: risk has dramatically increased when it comes to sidcast Civilian

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Speaker 1: casualties really just increases the room for area when you're

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Speaker 1: a soda straw. Amber, I know we're still trying to

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Speaker 1: figure out Thanks for coming on. This is Clay. I

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Speaker 1: know we're still trying to figure out how we're going

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Speaker 1: It's a total mess. But you had experience over there,

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Speaker 1: You've seen this happen. We've been talking a lot on

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Speaker 1: this manner. Are you surprised that speaking out is already occurring?

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Speaker 1: And when and or how do we determine who should

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Speaker 1: you really need to break it down into two different categories.

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Speaker 1: One is the Afghanistan war as a whole and the

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Speaker 1: failures that have come along with it through multiple administrations.

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Speaker 1: And then the other one is the bosched withdrawal that

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Speaker 1: So while military leaders may have known some intelligence about,

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Speaker 1: We're speaking to Amber Smiths. He's the author of Danger Close.

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Speaker 1: She's a veteran of the Afghanistan War Kiowa helicopter pilot

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Speaker 1: Really it feels like a two step process, right getting

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Speaker 1: And so at some point the military is likely going

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Speaker 1: And that's where like, all right, let's see the State Department,

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Speaker 1: Combat pilot and veteran Amber Smith Amber, thanks so much

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Speaker 1: for being with us sharing your expertise. We appreciate it. Thanks. Thanks.

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Speaker 1: Or We're to come back here in a moment with

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Speaker 1: the backlash in NYC Clay to vaccine passports, because we

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Speaker 1: because Clay, it turns out when you tell a majority

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Speaker 1: maybe super racist. Also, Buck, I just got some new numbers.

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Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about data. What is the impact

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Speaker 1: with in the second half of this show hour as well.

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Speaker 1: Lots of good stuff come in your way. But first,

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Speaker 1: what you got for us? Well, you know, I see

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Speaker 1: their fingertips. That's part one is crazy. Part two associated

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Speaker 1: with this bucket. I don't think this is getting enough discussion.

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Speaker 1: I'm a dad. Right during fall break, we may take

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Speaker 1: a vacation. During Christmas break or Thanksgiving, we may take

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Speaker 1: a vacation when kids are out of school. I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to New York City. Why would I go to

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Speaker 1: New York City where tons of people come in to

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Speaker 1: spend money. This vaccine passport. It's gonna hit hotels, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna hit restaurants, bars. Not only is it impacting people

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Speaker 1: who live in New York, there are millions of people

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Speaker 1: right now listening to us who might take a vacation

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Speaker 1: to New York and they're gonna say, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to go somewhere where I'm gonna not

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Speaker 1: be able to go into a restaurant. I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to be able to go into a bar. This is

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Speaker 1: a debilitating blow two small businesses across New York City,

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Speaker 1: and I think so many people who have never had

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Speaker 1: to make a payroll, who've never had to sit down

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Speaker 1: and understand how a business works, also known as politicians

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Speaker 1: for the most for the most part, unfortunately, those guys

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Speaker 1: have no idea what situation they are creating for small

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Speaker 1: businesses that are already struggling all over New York. We

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Speaker 1: never got back to normal, and that's what I think

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Speaker 1: has been lost in so much of this. There's never

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Speaker 1: been normal really in New York City. It's not normal

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Speaker 1: even here in Nashville, where you get into an uber

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Speaker 1: or you go you have to wear one back from

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Speaker 1: dinner last night or just on the way out, only

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Speaker 1: on the way out. So the Nashville based uber driver's

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Speaker 1: funny made us mask up. But the Franklin, Tennessee based

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Speaker 1: uber driver said or did not, I mean I didn't

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Speaker 1: wear a mask. I don't know. He didn't say, he

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Speaker 1: didn't say, he didn't request it. It's funny where you

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Speaker 1: get in an uber can impact things. I was saying

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Speaker 1: when we went to dinner last night, my fifth grader

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Speaker 1: had his school meeting, get to go meet the teacher

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Speaker 1: and everything else. No parents were wearing mask virtually for

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Speaker 1: that meeting inside of Williamson County. If you were in

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Speaker 1: other cities, maybe even Nashville, everybody would have been masked

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Speaker 1: up in cosmetic theater buying. I can't I you know,

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Speaker 1: it's a private communication, but I will say I just

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Speaker 1: had a friend who's a journalist based in DC, kind

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Speaker 1: of centrist journalist, text me and she was like, you

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Speaker 1: were right about Fauci and masks all along. I'm part

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Speaker 1: of the revolution now. I'm so excited. I was like,

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Speaker 1: thank you, this is this happens important. People are finally

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Speaker 1: seeing it's two nuts. They're wrong too often. Stop believing

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Speaker 1: in this. To get sixty percent of people right, we

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Speaker 1: need to get sixty percent of people to buy in

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Speaker 1: look at the data, right. And some of those people

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Speaker 1: are gonna have to be Democrats in order for that

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Speaker 1: to happen. And then Biden's gonna have a tough political reality.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna have to say, wait a minute, we keep

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Speaker 1: beating this COVID drum, and it's so discordant now that

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Speaker 1: people are abandoning it right, that's what we need to have.

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Speaker 1: We're never going to We're never going to be able

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Speaker 1: to with reason, facts, logic, and a respectful approach. We're

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Speaker 1: never going to be able to convince people who there's

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Speaker 1: double masks in the shower, or a gopher bike rides

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Speaker 1: by themselves with goggles and a mask and hand sanitizer.

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Speaker 1: Handy the way, hand sanitizer. It's not stopping you from

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Speaker 1: getting COVID, by the way, it's putting that up. Remember

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Speaker 1: when washing your hands, fifting lights, alling your groceries, all

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Speaker 1: this stuff. They've been wrong about so much of this

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Speaker 1: garbage all along. But if we can at least get

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Speaker 1: the solid majority for the American people to understand this

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Speaker 1: is crazy, it becomes politically untenable and starts the edifice

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Speaker 1: of COVID lockdown madness starts to end. But it's gonna

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Speaker 1: it's gonna require active, active measures. You can't just sort

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Speaker 1: of sit around and because Clay, here's the thing, there

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Speaker 1: are a lot of people who don't. They don't get

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Speaker 1: tired of this. They accept this as fact. We had this,

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Speaker 1: this data, the data that I wanted to dive into.

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Speaker 1: I haven't forgot we got close it out like a

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Speaker 1: an incredible tease there as we were going to break Buck.

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Speaker 1: It's really fascinating to look at who the people are

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Speaker 1: that are most in favor of vaccine mandates and then

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Speaker 1: to consider what jobs they may have and how divergent

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Speaker 1: those perspectives can be based on what you do for

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Speaker 1: a living. Oh the data, Clay, we love it here

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Speaker 1: on this show. This is in a hat tip of

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Speaker 1: friend Alex Barrenson for sharing this from a Twitter account.

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Speaker 1: It's Gallop polling. Though it's Gallop polling, and you have

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Speaker 1: here opinions about employee vaccination requirements by worker location. We've

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Speaker 1: got fully on site, hybrid model, fully remote and it

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Speaker 1: here's the basics of what this data tells you. Those

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Speaker 1: who strongly favor, strongly favor people getting max of vaccine

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Speaker 1: mandates by the employer are predominantly though the most common

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Speaker 1: is those who are fully remote. Of course, the people

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Speaker 1: who strong we oppose in the highest numbers probably strongly favor.

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Speaker 1: Forty four percent of those who are fully remote strongly

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Speaker 1: favor vaccine mandates for all employers. Okay, and fifth, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: let's see fully on site thirty three percent strongly oppose.

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Speaker 1: So when you actually break down the numbers, the basic

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Speaker 1: way to look at this is that the fully on

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Speaker 1: site folks are more much more likely to strongly oppose

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Speaker 1: vaccine mandates. The fully remote people who are at the

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Speaker 1: least risk are the biggest whimps when it comes to

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Speaker 1: COVID and want the most mandates and fauciism and madness.

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Speaker 1: This breaks down along the class lines we've talked about

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Speaker 1: a lot here. The basic paradigm of the COVID lockdown

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Speaker 1: was the CNN and MSNBC watching, you know, middle to

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Speaker 1: upper middle class libs sitting at home an urban or

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Speaker 1: sally no economic impact from a lockdown because they could

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Speaker 1: do their job just as easily at home and ordered

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Speaker 1: their Uber reads and watch their Netflix and they're fine.

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Speaker 1: The people who had to show up and operate the

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Speaker 1: grocery stores, their truck drivers, who had to make sure

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Speaker 1: we actually had food in the on the shelves for military,

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Speaker 1: they had to keep going. And they're the ones who

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Speaker 1: are most likely to say, let's not be crazy with

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Speaker 1: these employer mandates and the military's facing they're gonna vaccine

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Speaker 1: mandate right now, which is madness. I'm having a lot

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Speaker 1: of people reach out to me who say I'm gonna leave.

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Speaker 1: They're facing I believe, a dishonorable discharge if they won't

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Speaker 1: get the vaccine, if they refuse to get the vaccine,

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Speaker 1: which is insane to me. Yeah, and again, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: need to continue to talk about this because the story

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Speaker 1: all of you to think about this, as we discussed earlier,

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Speaker 1: enough to remember getting vaccines or shot. It's not even

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Speaker 1: fair to call something a vaccine if you have to

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Speaker 1: get it every year. That's the flu shot right and

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Speaker 1: right now. The COVID vaccine. You are going to have

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Speaker 1: COVID vaccine. And the challenge here going forward, Bucks, I

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Speaker 1: think what you're demonstrating there with those gallop pole numbers.

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Speaker 1: People have to be able to assess risk, right. And

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Speaker 1: people who have to go out on a day to

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Speaker 1: day basis and work facing the general public, interacting, they

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Speaker 1: understand how impossible it is to hide from a virus.

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Speaker 1: People who get to stay in their home and they

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Speaker 1: involved in technology and they don't actually have to see

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Speaker 1: anybody face to face, they mistakenly think that that is

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Speaker 1: a world that everybody can embrace. The guy who works

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Speaker 1: at the gas station or the girl who's working out

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Speaker 1: at at the grocery store, they don't have. But the

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Speaker 1: remote elites, if you will, because being able to work

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Speaker 1: remote it is a is a huge privilege. The remote elites,

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Speaker 1: who are big believers in the CNN fauciite obsession. They

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Speaker 1: also like it because they feel like they're doing their part,

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Speaker 1: which are which is a a pseudo humble way of

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Speaker 1: telling everybody they're in the fight to defeat COVID. That's right.

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Speaker 1: They're so smug sitting at home on their couch watching

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Speaker 1: CNN having their pad tie, which I love too, by

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Speaker 1: the way, delivered to them over. I mean, I'm just

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Speaker 1: saying I just don't watch the CNN and do the

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Speaker 1: smug virtue signaling. I do love the delivery food. But nonetheless,

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Speaker 1: this is this is the reality of it. The people

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Speaker 1: were able to continue on with many aspects of their lives,

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Speaker 1: They're the ones that that insistent and by the way,

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Speaker 1: they will defend teachers unions for all the nonsense they

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Speaker 1: But you know, if you're an NPR podcast listening Mattow

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Speaker 1: watching New Yorker subscribing lib You think, well, I have

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Speaker 1: to defend the teachers unions for their hypocrisy and their demand.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, I still expect the people who run

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Speaker 1: show what. Well, you all have no choice. You also,

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Speaker 1: if you have kids, can afford to have a tutor.

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Speaker 1: You can afford to put your kids in private school.

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Speaker 1: You can ensure that your children are not actually falling behind.

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Speaker 1: And what does all this mean Buck? When we come tomorrow?

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Speaker 1: This is what you call it, deities in advance. The

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Speaker 1: impact of Joe Biden's disastrous leadership is becoming very real.

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Speaker 1: The numbers reflect it, and we're going to share it tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: And it ain't pretty. People are realizing not only did

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Speaker 1: they did they push out confused old Grandpa Biden here

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Speaker 1: and pretend like we couldn't all see the decline in Biden,

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Speaker 1: but also the whole bill of goods, the whole what

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Speaker 1: we were promised we'd get if you were president. Not

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Speaker 1: only is it not coming to fruition, it's going in

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