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Speaker 2: You ready, Yeah, I seem intense. Don't be too sad,
Speaker 2: They're gonna be fine. Yeah, you're all worried about the
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Speaker 3: I actually don't think that the betting is as big
Speaker 3: of a like nearly as being in the knowledge. I
Speaker 3: probably made eight bets throughout my entire life.
Speaker 2: Well, how many of them have come in the last
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Speaker 2: the last two months you've made another four. I would
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Speaker 4: Just started making a little bit of money.
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Speaker 2: I can't argue with that. Welcome in episode twenty five
Speaker 2: of What's Right with Nick Right in the podcast and
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Speaker 2: very sad demandse potentially a slightly poorer demanse. We don't
Speaker 2: know where we're going to get into slightly poor. I'm
Speaker 2: not sure if you bet on this game, by the
Speaker 2: end of today's show, you're gonna feel a lot better.
Speaker 2: And I think I might surprise the audience because a
Speaker 2: little spoiler alert here before we get into the show,
Speaker 2: I picked the Warriors to win the series. The Warriors
Speaker 2: in the most recent game blew out Boston. I do
Speaker 2: not feel good about the Warriors chances. We will discuss
Speaker 2: why in a moment, but first let's discuss what we're
Speaker 2: not discussing on today's show. Here are things that did
Speaker 2: not make the cut for today's show. Ryan Fitzmagic retiring.
Speaker 2: More on that in a second. Actually, that's kind of
Speaker 2: gonna make the show. Phil Knight buying the Blazers, and
Speaker 2: the twentieth anniversary of the greatest show of all time,
Speaker 2: The Wire. Let's talk one in three just for a moment.
Speaker 2: Demand say first the fits Magic thing. You don't have
Speaker 2: to say anything on this the Wire, though you will.
Speaker 2: I saw someone with you know what, I want to
Speaker 2: propose this idea start the clock go ahead, because we're
Speaker 2: into the show. I saw someone pose it. If fits
Speaker 2: Magic is the greatest backup quarterback ever, should he be
Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame. Here's what I propose. Certain
Speaker 2: takes are so bad you lose your blue check mark.
Speaker 2: There's a committee Elon Musket looks like is gonna weasel
Speaker 2: out of buying Twitter. If someone else, though, comes to
Speaker 2: power with Twitter. I want there to be a take
Speaker 2: commission that if it is unanimously agreed upon that that
Speaker 2: is an indefensible take. You lose your check mark, at
Speaker 2: least temporarily. That's first point, okay. Second point is the Wire.
Speaker 2: You won't watch The Wire. You haven't watched The Wire.
Speaker 2: I told you the three greatest shows of all time are,
Speaker 2: in no order, The Wire, The Sopranos, and Breaking Bad.
Speaker 2: You finally watch Breaking Bad and you gave it a
Speaker 2: A plus. Correct. Yeah, Okay, take my advice on the
Speaker 2: Wire and the Sopranos. And now I'm gonna tell you The
Speaker 2: Wire takes about seven episodes to get going. Okay, it
Speaker 2: then becomes the greatest piece not of television, but of
Speaker 2: American art ever made. Take that Andy Warhol, and with
Speaker 2: that we will get right into the show. All right,
Speaker 2: what are we starting with today?
Speaker 4: That's to it? Man? Warriors won game two?
Speaker 2: Yeah they did? You were You were sad, buddy, Yeah?
Speaker 4: I was. It is what it is. We got to split.
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 3: Boston's on fire game one. You have passed the torch
Speaker 3: the Warriors and they were on fire in game two.
Speaker 3: I'm still very confident in them, sounds as long as
Speaker 3: as long as.
Speaker 4: The refs don't let Draymond control the game.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, sure, So what's what's your question here? What
Speaker 2: are we doing? The should you be confident? Is that
Speaker 2: the question?
Speaker 3: That's not really my question okay, because I am confident,
Speaker 3: so you're I mean, okay, So am I wrong?
Speaker 2: No, you just decided that if a first a block
Speaker 2: first segment is really who cares what my take is?
Speaker 2: Demanse said, as long as the refs don't let Draymond
Speaker 2: control the game, we can keep it moving. Usually at
Speaker 2: the end of these there's a question. You asked me
Speaker 2: to prompt me into the discussion. Now, let me tell
Speaker 2: you why I was worried about Demanse. Yesterday we had
Speaker 2: my mom's birthday dinner, and I knew I was gonna
Speaker 2: time it right. And I also knew that I had
Speaker 2: a laptop with me the ability to stream the game.
Speaker 2: If when we left the game had started, we could
Speaker 2: watch it in the car together on the laptop with
Speaker 2: my wife driving. Demonse didn't know I had the laptop
Speaker 2: and started around seven forty five Eastern to get a
Speaker 2: little lancy, a little anxious. It was the first time
Speaker 2: of your life that I've seen that you were seriously
Speaker 2: invested in watching every second of a sporting game like
Speaker 2: I've never There's not a super Bowl, nothing has it
Speaker 2: been where like you didn't want to miss one second
Speaker 2: of it. So that made me very proud. That was like,
Speaker 2: for me, the equivalent of like you bringing home like
Speaker 2: an A plus on a map desk. I was like,
Speaker 2: oh man, my son's growing up. I loved it so much.
Speaker 2: Now I tend to actually, unfortunately agree with your analysis
Speaker 2: and we will talk fortunately well yeah, I mean he
Speaker 2: kind of, you know, you kind of stole my thunder
Speaker 2: and we're gonna talk Draymond later in the segment. I
Speaker 2: mean it just try to keep up here. But I
Speaker 2: didn't think it was a game that was officiated particularly.
Speaker 2: I think there are significant concerns for the Warriors, most
Speaker 2: notably everyone's pointing out this number that Jason Tatum had
Speaker 2: the worst plus minus and finals history. That to me
Speaker 2: is not relevant. If you're the superstar player on a
Speaker 2: team that gets blown out, your plus minus is going
Speaker 2: to be awful. Right here is the far more relevant number.
Speaker 2: This game was over after three quarters. After the third quarter,
Speaker 2: the Warriors were up twenty three points, and then in
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter it was basically garbage time. Right for
Speaker 2: the whole fourth quarter through three quarters, Klay Thompson twenty
Speaker 2: two minutes played minus one. In those twenty two minutes,
Speaker 2: the Warriors were plus twenty four in the fourteen he sat.
Speaker 2: That's a noteworthy plus minus. That's a plus minus that
Speaker 2: shows this might not be a series for Clay. I
Speaker 2: already everyone's overrating what Jordan Poole did. Jordan Poole was
Speaker 2: essentially benched by Kerr, and then at the very end
Speaker 2: of the third quarter Kerr put him in for the
Speaker 2: first time. In the second half, he hit those two threes,
Speaker 2: hit another one in the fourth. Jordan Poole's been a negative.
Speaker 2: I picked the Warriors on television. I gotta tell you,
Speaker 2: By the time people hear and see this, I think
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back on TV and switch my pick.
Speaker 2: I never switch picks. I actually think the Celtics are
Speaker 2: in a really good position to manse.
Speaker 4: I think that's a very rational thing to say at
Speaker 4: this point.
Speaker 2: I you, here's the other thing, the Warriors. You said
Speaker 2: something interesting when your Diora walked in the room and
Speaker 2: she said, oh, do the Celtics have to win this game?
Speaker 2: And you said, nope, but the Warriors do. That was
Speaker 2: exactly right. NBA history, only five teams in the finals
Speaker 2: have ever come back from two to oh down, and
Speaker 2: three of those five will. And I'll tell you what
Speaker 2: they were. Bill Russell's final championship nineteen sixty nine, player coach,
Speaker 2: his eleventh ring. They went down two oh they won,
Speaker 2: and seven Bill Walton's only championship nineteen seventy seven over
Speaker 2: Doctor J and the Sixers down two oh one and six,
Speaker 2: the d Wade come back against the MAVs down two
Speaker 2: oh one and six. And the other two are ones
Speaker 2: you watched that are very recent. Warriors up two oh
Speaker 2: and Lebron and the Cavs in twenty sixteen end up
Speaker 2: going up three to one, losing seven. And last year
Speaker 2: Giannis and the Bucks are down two oh end up
Speaker 2: winning in six. But here's the So it's only been
Speaker 2: done five times where you come back from two to oh.
Speaker 2: It's never been done where a team is down two
Speaker 2: to oh or two at home. So the Warriors had
Speaker 2: to win. They won. I think the Celtics are better.
Speaker 3: I think I think the Celtics game winning Game one
Speaker 3: holds more weight than than the Warriors winning game two.
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. The Celtics wanted to split. They
Speaker 2: got their split. People in my business far too often
Speaker 2: overreact to the order of events rather than the events.
Speaker 2: If going into the finals, we would have said it's
Speaker 2: it's one to one. Going back to Boston, people would say, oh,
Speaker 2: that drastically favors the Celtics. But because it went one
Speaker 2: to oh and then one one, people get it wrong. Okay,
Speaker 2: all right, what's next? Try to ask a question with
Speaker 2: this one? Okay, not just to take we got toime
Speaker 2: takes over here, go.
Speaker 3: Ahead, Hatam Tatum hasn't played well, we'll play to the
Speaker 3: standard in the finals so far, yep. But he did
Speaker 3: carry the Celtics past Kadie Giannis and Jimmy Butler. But
Speaker 3: he's not looked like a top ten guy in this series.
Speaker 3: Do you think he's out of gas or is he
Speaker 3: just not quite in that top tier yet?
Speaker 2: No? I think he has looked like a top ten guy.
Speaker 2: He just hasn't looked like a top one guy. Here's
Speaker 2: the deal, and this is and we've talked about this
Speaker 2: on the show before, one of the long tales unintended
Speaker 2: consequences of the insane way sports media reacted to every
Speaker 2: single Lebron James moment in game as if it were
Speaker 2: legacy defining and was. It got in people's that great
Speaker 2: players don't have bad games. They do. There is one
Speaker 2: guy in the league right now that if he has
Speaker 2: a subpar game, you're shocked. It's Johanness. Giannis is the
Speaker 2: only guy that even on a bad night is good.
Speaker 2: So even like I think Luca is the second best
Speaker 2: player in the league, Luca on a bad night can
Speaker 2: be He'll still have good counting numbers, but his defense
Speaker 2: will be lacking. He'll wear down at the ends. Tatum
Speaker 2: is top ten, Is he top three? No, he's not
Speaker 2: top three. But yesterday I give you some numbers or
Speaker 2: about the game two real quick, because yes, that game
Speaker 2: was absolutely not on Tatum. Tatum for the game was
Speaker 2: eight of nineteen from the field, six of nine from
Speaker 2: three to twenty eight points. Okay, so eight of nineteen
Speaker 2: from the field right around forty percent. Not great, not terrible.
Speaker 2: Six of nine from three is outstanding, twenty eight points.
Speaker 2: The other eight rotation players for the Celtics Jalen Brown, Alhr,
Speaker 2: Marcus Smart, Grant Williams, Derek White, Peyton Pritchard, Daniel Tice.
Speaker 2: And there's someone I'm forgetting your guy, time Ward Robert Williams.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The other eight guys that play were sixteen of fifty one,
Speaker 2: sixteen of fifty one that's thirty percent and six of
Speaker 2: twenty one from three, So you're not Tatum was okay,
Speaker 2: everyone else was terrible. Jalen was one of eleven after
Speaker 2: the first quarter, one of eleven, So I don't put
Speaker 2: this one on Tatum. All right, what's next?
Speaker 4: It's fair different. The difference in each game has been
Speaker 4: role players. Yep.
Speaker 3: Jordan Poole went off in Game two. Derek White and
Speaker 3: Marcus Smart did in game one.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 3: These teams have depth, so they're in the finals. Isn't
Speaker 3: this bad news for teams like the Nets and the Lakers?
Speaker 2: Okay, you guys keep trying to force this all our
Speaker 2: super team's dead narrative.
Speaker 4: I think super teams are dead.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, let's just go through champions over the last
Speaker 2: I don't care half decade. Twenty sixteen Cabs built on
Speaker 2: the fly Superteam. Twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen Warriors they
Speaker 2: added Kevin Durant feel super ish to me. Twenty nineteen
Speaker 2: Raptors they added Kawhi Leonard. Twenty twenty Lakers they added
Speaker 2: Lebron two years the year prior in Anthony Davis that year,
Speaker 2: last year's Bucks Organic, and this year's team will be
Speaker 2: organic one of the two champions.
Speaker 4: You look quiz like, oh, so the super I say
Speaker 4: the super teams are dead.
Speaker 3: I think that the stuff that's going on off the
Speaker 3: court is making the super teams dead. What do you
Speaker 3: make I think that like with with with Harden going
Speaker 3: to Philly, there were like you know, social problems, everybody
Speaker 3: wouldn't getting along, and like Kyrie on the nets he
Speaker 3: had the problem with the vaccine. He's got all his
Speaker 3: other shenanigans going on. Okay, I think it's got okay,
Speaker 3: it's beyond.
Speaker 2: Basketball, that's all fair. I guess the point that I
Speaker 2: am making is this, in those specific instances that very
Speaker 2: well might be true. However, if I'm trying to think
Speaker 2: of a good example of what could happen if this summer,
Speaker 2: Joel Embiid were to demand out and say I want
Speaker 2: to go to Miami and they trade Bam and Hero
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, Joel's down in Miami with
Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler and then somebody comes and joins them. Guess
Speaker 2: what super teams are?
Speaker 4: Right back?
Speaker 2: And so, and it should be noted this Warriors team exists.
Speaker 2: How did they get Andrew Wiggins by trading D'Angel Russell.
Speaker 2: How did they get d'angela Russell by trading Kevin Durant
Speaker 2: in the sign and trade with the Nets? How did
Speaker 2: the Celtics become the Celtics by being on the receiving
Speaker 2: end of a Nets trade for Paul Pearson Kevin Garnett.
Speaker 2: So the idea of that you can duplicate what either
Speaker 2: of these teams did probably not all? Right, what's what's last?
Speaker 3: Draymond got a tech early on Sunday. Yeah, he then
Speaker 3: put his antics into overdrive.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: After the game, he.
Speaker 3: Said he's earned the right, earned the right from the
Speaker 3: rest to play like this. Yeah, and uh do you
Speaker 3: buy that?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Listen, Draymond broke a couple of the crack commandments. My
Speaker 2: friend that getting high on his own supply and he's
Speaker 2: talking too much. The thing number two is like, don't
Speaker 2: let folks know where your money's at. Something like that.
Speaker 2: He is. It's one thing to get away with stuff.
Speaker 2: And we've talked about this on this show. I was
Speaker 2: ahead of the curve here that Draymond Green has figured
Speaker 2: out he can pay a one free throw tax early
Speaker 2: in these games and then just get to act like
Speaker 2: a total maniac the rest of the game. Announcing that's
Speaker 2: but announcing it is wild. It is absolutely wild. And
Speaker 2: if I think the refs are now, the refs have
Speaker 2: social media, the refs have the Internet, and I think
Speaker 2: I don't think Draymond can control himself. That's the other
Speaker 2: part of this.
Speaker 3: I think he's going to start a lot of fights
Speaker 3: at the pickup games in the parks.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, I don't know. Listen, He's Freeze a podcaster now,
Speaker 2: so I don't know how many pickup games he's gonna
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 4: Think that people are going to try to like mimic
Speaker 4: his style, oh.
Speaker 2: You see, trying to play like him. Listen, mister triple
Speaker 2: single has to find a way to put his imprint
Speaker 2: on the game, and as long as the refs are
Speaker 2: letting him do it, more power to him. But he
Speaker 2: shouldn't have bragged about it.
Speaker 4: That's insane.
Speaker 2: I would bet money. And one of the reasons I'm
Speaker 2: leaning Celtics the rest of the way is I think
Speaker 2: he's gonna get thrown out of one of these guys,
Speaker 2: and that'll be a hell of a legacy thing. Man.
Speaker 2: If they lose three finals, one of which Clay and
Speaker 2: Katie got hurt and the other two. One year he
Speaker 2: gets suspended when they have control of the series, and
Speaker 2: then this year if he gets kicked out of the game,
Speaker 2: he could have gotten kicked out last night. Now, I
Speaker 2: last point on the Dreymonth thing, and then we got
Speaker 2: a rep I agree with what the broadcast was saying,
Speaker 2: which is the best refs don't throw a guy out
Speaker 2: on a close call technical, right. I think that star
Speaker 2: players should get seven fouls, not six, meaning once you
Speaker 2: have five fouls, if you commit one more, they look
Speaker 2: the other way. You commit another one, you're gone. You
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Give him a big margin. Vara
Speaker 2: on the sixth vowel. Same thing with technical star player
Speaker 2: should get three techs, not two. Once you have one tech,
Speaker 2: you do something else tech worthy, the refts can look
Speaker 2: the other way. Ramon does eleven things tech worthy though
Speaker 2: every game, and he's been doing it all playoffs and
Speaker 2: now he's bragging about it. I think it's a problem.
Speaker 2: I also think it's a problem that I went so
Speaker 2: long there, because it means less time for us to
Speaker 2: talk about your favorite subject and my favorite subject and
Speaker 2: Demonz soon to be favorite subject tennis. That's next on
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Speaker 2: But that is something that's maybe easier to digest pardon me,
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Speaker 2: check that out on the What's Right YouTube page. All Right, demanse.
Speaker 2: I think I know what we're starting with here. What
Speaker 2: are we doing? What are we doing?
Speaker 4: Your guy raf on that Nadal there you go on
Speaker 4: the French Open.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're damn Stradi did.
Speaker 3: That's his fourteenth title. Now, Yeah, the producers told me
Speaker 3: that Pete Samprian's only one for Sampris. Yeah, they're only
Speaker 3: one fourteen total Grand slams.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Is Rafa's dominant at the French Open? The most impressive
Speaker 3: stat in sports history.
Speaker 2: Okay, so things here. If you had instead of laying
Speaker 2: in your bed downstairs, if you had woken up when
Speaker 2: I was shaking you Sunday morning, you probably would have
Speaker 2: known how to pronounce Pete Sampers and raffin a doll
Speaker 2: for the show. Instead, you wouldn't get up and watch
Speaker 2: the French Open with me, which, by the way, was
Speaker 2: he made quick work six ' three six three six to.
Speaker 2: Oh that thing was a rap early because Rafa dominated
Speaker 2: like that. I what Robin. And by the way, we
Speaker 2: also found out he played the entire French Open with
Speaker 2: his foot numbed, couldn't feel one of his feet because
Speaker 2: he's doing with a foot issue that they haven't been
Speaker 2: able to fix. But he knew he could kick these
Speaker 2: guys ass on clay anyway, so he went out and
Speaker 2: did it with a numb foot.
Speaker 4: What I'm sorry I missed it.
Speaker 3: I was having a really good dream about dominating on
Speaker 3: the grass.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know what. Yeah, you were having a really
Speaker 2: good dream about dominating on the grass. Or you were
Speaker 2: having a really good dream due to grass, who knows.
Speaker 2: But the point is this. The point is you should
Speaker 2: have watched the French Open with me because it might
Speaker 2: have been your last time to ever get to see
Speaker 2: Rafa compete. If he can't get the foot fixed, he's
Speaker 2: done and that this era, this golden era of tennis
Speaker 2: might be over. Fer I still believe Federer, like who's
Speaker 2: best was the best. I think Roger Federer at his
Speaker 2: best was the greatest tennis has ever been played. Okay,
Speaker 2: Djokovic's overall excellence, it has. He's like a robot. I had,
Speaker 2: you know, center court, second row seats to watch him
Speaker 2: in the US Open quarterfinals last year. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 2: unbelievable what he can do. But Rafa, to me, is
Speaker 2: my favorite, and the fact that he now he has
Speaker 2: he's won fourteen French Opens. To Demanse he's never in
Speaker 2: his wins faced a fifth set. He has in the
Speaker 2: French Open overtime them, Well, you win three sets to win,
Speaker 2: so it's best of five. My point is he's won
Speaker 2: those fourteen, all three to zero or three to one.
Speaker 2: At the Fringe Open, I think he has lost as
Speaker 2: many he's He's one hundred and fourteen and three is
Speaker 2: what I know. His record at the French Open. He
Speaker 2: has three times not won it. He's never faced a
Speaker 2: fifth set in his wins. He's just impossible there.
Speaker 6: But on top of that, Jesus Way, this guy could
Speaker 6: not get any more boring. Phony you talk less about
Speaker 6: tennis and more about how he's been right about maybe
Speaker 6: one thing this NBA postseason.
Speaker 2: He run Wimbledon a couple times a long time ago,
Speaker 2: and he's always in the US Open, and he's won
Speaker 2: that four times and as recently as I saw him
Speaker 2: win it one year, so it was one of the
Speaker 2: years since we've been here, maybe twenty nineteen, twenty twenty
Speaker 2: was there even a US Open. He must have been
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen because of the pandemic. So the he's just
Speaker 2: on believable and he's so easy to root for, and
Speaker 2: I'll be sad. If he's done playing, I'll be flat
Speaker 2: and I'd be very sad you missed it because my grandkids,
Speaker 2: your kids one day are gonna say to you, dad,
Speaker 2: did you ever get to see rop and a doll?
Speaker 2: And you're gonna say, well, there was this time I
Speaker 2: could have but instead I slept through it, could have
Speaker 2: watched his twenty second grand sperient.
Speaker 3: I guarantee you my children will not be asking about
Speaker 3: the French hop.
Speaker 2: Oh you know, you know you think that.
Speaker 4: Shout out to Wimbledon.
Speaker 2: Though, Shout out to Wimbledon though, Yeah, berries and cream?
Speaker 4: No, no, no, the the place where they play.
Speaker 2: I know, I understand, buddy, berries and cream is Strawberries
Speaker 2: and cream is like the big thing people eat there
Speaker 2: at the Wimbledon at not though Wimbledon.
Speaker 4: At at Wimbledon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like pimento and cheese. Where do they eat that?
Speaker 2: Do you know? Where's that famous France green jacket? Where
Speaker 2: do you get the green jacket?
Speaker 4: Oh? Where's that?
Speaker 2: Where's the green?
Speaker 4: Jackson America PGA?
Speaker 2: Which one it is golf? Where to get in America?
Speaker 2: It is in America? Augusta National? What's plated Augusta National nope, Georgia.
Speaker 2: What's played at Augusta National? The Masters? Okay, let's just keep
Speaker 2: it moving, all right, what's the next?
Speaker 4: All right, we're gonna talk Utah jazz and tennis. Okay,
Speaker 4: same show.
Speaker 3: Sweet the jazz coach was on Sunday. Do you think
Speaker 3: that he waited for the Lakers to sign Hams so
Speaker 3: he could avoid Russ?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: Go ahead?
Speaker 2: Is that the whole question?
Speaker 4: No? No, no, no, that wasn't the whole question.
Speaker 3: Keep going, and do you think that this means that
Speaker 3: Donovan Mitch will be free of the jazz suit?
Speaker 2: Not this year? Listen, the All Star Game this year
Speaker 2: is in Salt Lake City. I know what you're thinking. Why,
Speaker 2: I don't know. Can you imagine? You know they used
Speaker 2: to call the All Star Game the Black super Bowl,
Speaker 2: like meaning it was like the such a big event
Speaker 2: for Black America, the NBA All Star Game, and they
Speaker 2: put it in Salt Lake City. Yeah, so I guess
Speaker 2: maybe you could say everyone deserves to get.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all I was about to say. I think
Speaker 3: the NBA was just like, hey man, we got to
Speaker 3: give him their time.
Speaker 2: No, no, you don't. They're lucky to have a team.
Speaker 2: Sorry to all our viewers and listeners in the Great
Speaker 2: Salt Lake and sorry Colin Coward who owns multiple homes
Speaker 2: in Utah, but not interested. But here's the thing. They're
Speaker 2: not gonna trade their best player before they host the
Speaker 2: All Star Game. He's their best chance of having like
Speaker 2: a you know, a guy kind of be the main
Speaker 2: character of a Beacon. So I think they're gonna let
Speaker 2: Donovan essentially pick their coach. I think they're gonna have
Speaker 2: another disappointing year, and then I think Donovan leaves in
Speaker 2: a year. I do not think he leaves this year.
Speaker 2: I do not think that the Jazz are gonna trade
Speaker 2: him before they host their All Star game. I also,
Speaker 2: you think people aren't interested in tennis. People are interested
Speaker 2: in tennis, my friend. People are not interested in the
Speaker 2: Utah Jazz. I am told, though, we're playing a brand
Speaker 2: new game, a new game we've never played. So describe it?
Speaker 2: How will explain what is it?
Speaker 3: You had a super controversial take on Twitter, which one
Speaker 3: the Jordan one?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we'll get to that point. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And you're always willing to fight for what you think
Speaker 3: is right, even if your take is completely outrageous. So
Speaker 3: creating a new game customized just for you. Yeah, called
Speaker 3: Nick right public defender.
Speaker 2: Oh. I love this because if I wasn't, if I
Speaker 2: wasn't doing this for a living, i'd definitely be an attorney,
Speaker 2: a litigator, courtroom litigators.
Speaker 4: And I think you'd be great at it. Oh, thanks, buddy,
Speaker 4: So Toney's I appreciate that.
Speaker 3: To Fidney's people usher at Cubs, usher at Cub game
Speaker 3: destroys a huge beer cup period that fans have been creating.
Speaker 4: This is just lame. Could you defend this guy?
Speaker 2: All right? So this video, in case you're just listening,
Speaker 2: there is a massive pyramid of beer cups at a
Speaker 2: Cubs game, and an usher just walks by and nonchalantly
Speaker 2: knocks it over and seems to be doing it with
Speaker 2: quite a bit of glee, and then kind of pushes
Speaker 2: the other cups aside before he goes back to other
Speaker 2: ushering duties. In order for this game to really work,
Speaker 2: I think the idea is even I think this guy
Speaker 2: obviously is a jackass, but I think the best way
Speaker 2: is for me to be able to defend something even
Speaker 2: I don't agree with. Yeah, so let's just pretend I
Speaker 2: didn't call him a jackass. Okay, These are not my
Speaker 2: actual takes. But if I as a public defender, you
Speaker 2: must defend all your clients with great vigor into the
Speaker 2: best of your abilities, even if you think they're guilty. Listen,
Speaker 2: this isn't you know the Phi Beta Kappa fraternity house
Speaker 2: at DePaul University. There's a baseball game with families with
Speaker 2: young children. And we're in a time where I know
Speaker 2: people are gonna act like, oh, COVID doesn't exist. It
Speaker 2: still exists. You've got let me look at that again.
Speaker 2: We've got how many rows is that pyramid? That is
Speaker 2: thirteen rows? So we're talking about I got to do
Speaker 2: this off the top of my head, but ten rows
Speaker 2: would be fifty five. So we're talking about nearly one
Speaker 2: hundred cups right there in that pyramid. How many germs,
Speaker 2: how many obstructed views? These are the people that didn't
Speaker 2: pay a lot for their seats. Bleacher seats the one
Speaker 2: thing you can hope for so that you can actually
Speaker 2: see the game. And where does it end if you
Speaker 2: don't knock it down there? It just grows and grows
Speaker 2: and grows. Eventually it becomes bigger than the game. The usher,
Speaker 2: by the way, is just doing what his boss has
Speaker 2: told him. If you want to take it up with anybody,
Speaker 2: take it up with the people that own the Cubs.
Speaker 4: What is that?
Speaker 2: The Ricketts family? They also, I think one of them,
Speaker 2: the Ricketts folks, is the governor of Nebraska. I got
Speaker 2: big issues with him as well. So, as is always
Speaker 2: the case, we're picking on the common man who's just
Speaker 2: doing what his bosses tell him, as opposed to the
Speaker 2: real corporate oligarchs that run the things. And by the way,
Speaker 2: it's a good policy. Like a beer can't We're gonna
Speaker 2: do a beer mountains ridiculous. A good job, usher?
Speaker 4: Next, all right, Yeah, you made some good points there.
Speaker 2: Okay, my heart wasn't really in it, but I did
Speaker 2: my best.
Speaker 4: Go ahead.
Speaker 3: Gary Payton Senior took to Twitter to question Steve Kurr
Speaker 3: and the Warriors coaching about his son Gary Payton. The first, Yeah, Junior,
Speaker 3: not playing defend this dad embarrassing his son on game one?
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're when you are, Gary Peyton, did you
Speaker 2: know Gary Payton, when you played against Steve Kerr in
Speaker 2: the finals and ate his lunch pin. When you when
Speaker 2: you have actual credibility, then you're allowed to say whatever
Speaker 2: the hell you want. I mean, that's he says. That's
Speaker 2: on the coaching staff of Gold State. Listen, I am
Speaker 2: not a big fan of random dad's chiming in, but
Speaker 2: this isn't LeVar ball. Gary Peyton, he might know a
Speaker 2: thing or two. He's played in the finals, he's been
Speaker 2: he's an all time great player. He's on our fifty
Speaker 2: Greatest of Last fifty years list. Maybe Steve Kirk could
Speaker 2: learn a thing or two from Gary Payton senior. So
Speaker 2: who's gonna tell Gary Payton to stop talking? No? No, no,
Speaker 2: Gary Payton Senior, talk more. I got no problem with whatsoever? Next?
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 3: MLB teams are increasingly using position players to pitch during blowouts.
Speaker 3: In one game, both teams use position players to pitch.
Speaker 3: Defend this as being fun to watch.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, this is my hardest one yet. So I'm
Speaker 2: defending I'm defending blowouts in baseball games. Yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 2: know what. Your honor, your honor. I need to recuse
Speaker 2: myself from the case. Why, sir, conflict of interest? What's
Speaker 2: your conflict of interest? I don't like baseball? Okay, all right,
Speaker 2: fair enough?
Speaker 4: Next? Okay on Sunday? Yeah you wait, hold on play?
Speaker 2: Is there an extra one don't we have a bonus one?
Speaker 4: Is this is a bonus one? Oh? Okays, see what
Speaker 4: we're doing.
Speaker 2: Okay, On Sunday, there's a little Demont's internal monologue for
Speaker 2: the podcast viewers and listeners. Go ahead on Sunday.
Speaker 3: On Twitter, you claim Michael Jordan's switch hand layup was
Speaker 3: somehow not impressive.
Speaker 4: Uh, some folks think that you're a hater. Yeah, defend yourself.
Speaker 2: Okay. So here's the deal that that is a still shot.
Speaker 2: We can't show you the full video on if you're watching,
Speaker 2: but everyone knows this because it has been just absolutely
Speaker 2: forced down our throats for thirty years as if this
Speaker 2: is one of the greatest moments in NBA history. It
Speaker 2: flatly is not. Here's the thing, Jordan might be the
Speaker 2: greatest player ever. I don't think he is, but obviously
Speaker 2: there is a strong case to be made for him.
Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean we have to mythologize everything about him.
Speaker 2: Jordan was once he started winning titles, was not a
Speaker 2: great highlight producer. He was he was so fundamentally sound
Speaker 2: and such a killer, and his mid rangels unstoppable. He
Speaker 2: it's the greatest fadeaway jump shot ever. But those things
Speaker 2: aren't great highlights. He's only really great, truly great highlights
Speaker 2: the latter half of his career are the jump shots
Speaker 2: to win playoff games and win the finals. Those obviously
Speaker 2: are great moments, but because like.
Speaker 3: Here's my point, it's not logo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's from early in his career in the in
Speaker 2: the slam dunk contest. Absolutely, But if you think about
Speaker 2: the highlights you see forever throughout NBA, his they're these
Speaker 2: amazing feats of athleticism and then a couple basic ass
Speaker 2: Jordan plays like the highlights that live forever. It's like,
Speaker 2: holy shit, doctor j jumped, put the ball behind the backboard,
Speaker 2: hung in the air, got it around to the other side.
Speaker 2: It's like, is he the only person in the world
Speaker 2: who could do it? Vince Carter jumped over a seven
Speaker 2: foot three inch French dude and ended his career. It's like,
Speaker 2: is that the greatest thing I've ever seen in my life? Say,
Speaker 2: even Steph Curry, the eerie one unanimous MVP, You're you're
Speaker 2: in overtime against Katie and Russ. There's four seconds left.
Speaker 2: He just pulls up casually from forty two feet bang.
Speaker 2: It's like, holy crep Lebron is thirty feet behind. The
Speaker 2: play tracks down, Iguadala pins it the Shaquille O'Neal. He
Speaker 2: pulled the basket down and it hit him in the head.
Speaker 2: These are the iconic moments. And then it's like and
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan once had a spin move baseline and kind
Speaker 2: of dunked on Patrick Ewing. And another time Michael Jordan
Speaker 2: switched hands on a layup. Holy look at this.
Speaker 3: So basically what you're what you're saying is basketball has
Speaker 3: just come a long way.
Speaker 4: That's that's what that's It's.
Speaker 2: Not just the basketball's come a long way. It's that
Speaker 2: doctor J's thing stands the test of time like that
Speaker 2: it was forty years ago. He put the ball behind
Speaker 2: the backboard, brought it back.
Speaker 4: That's that's not happening off like I don't.
Speaker 2: I've never seen it. I've never seen it done by
Speaker 2: the way Jordan versus Dominique slam dunk contest stands the
Speaker 2: test of time. Jordan did a true free throw line
Speaker 2: dunk with a pump that was that stands the test
Speaker 2: of time. His in game highlights wait for young young
Speaker 2: Michael pre Scotty and Phil Michael. Those in game of
Speaker 2: highlights are unbelievable, that his game adjusted, and people, just
Speaker 2: the iconographers about Jordan that oh my god. I mean,
Speaker 2: people were like this play thirty one years ago today
Speaker 2: look at it, and it's like, look at it? What
Speaker 2: am I looking at? An unnecessary switch hands in the
Speaker 2: air layup. People were like, oh, he could never have
Speaker 2: been done before. Of course had been done before. Larry
Speaker 2: Bird hit hitting a critical shot from behind the backboard.
Speaker 2: That's an amazing highlight. Magic's full court bounced past no
Speaker 2: look on one hop in transition seventy feet. It's not
Speaker 2: just about the era, it's it's that you know who
Speaker 2: also didn't have unbelievable highlights, Tim Duncan. But nobody tries
Speaker 2: to be like, oh, on this date eighteen years ago,
Speaker 2: Tim Duncan banked in this seventeen Holy molly. I just
Speaker 2: it's enough. We don't a guy can be maybe the
Speaker 2: greatst ever and not everything he did is the greatest ever.
Speaker 2: I'm not a hater. I'm right, We'll be right back.
Speaker 4: Are you serious?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the dude at Disney World, Yeah, this steals
Speaker 2: the ring. What's your take on that?
Speaker 3: I don't want to go as far as say it's disgusting,
Speaker 3: but I really don't like it. I believe that people
Speaker 3: should take their jobs seriously. But like, bro, it's gonna
Speaker 3: be like two more minutes backs.
Speaker 2: Okay, So let me defend that guy for a moment.
Speaker 2: Is this is kind of you? Yeah, it's just listen.
Speaker 2: I don't like the guy. I don't like the guy,
Speaker 2: but as is always the case, we don't we we are.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna use my buddy Lazlo says this all
Speaker 2: the time, and he's right. I'm gonna make a global
Speaker 2: warming point here, okay, and it'll apply. The planet is melting.
Speaker 2: We're all eventually, you know, gonna be totally screwed. And
Speaker 2: somehowpen It's like, hey, regular Americans in plastic straws, you're
Speaker 2: ruining the world as opposed to these multinational corporations pumping
Speaker 2: out smog and emissions in an hour more than any
Speaker 2: human being would in a thousand lifetimes. That's the same
Speaker 2: thing that's happening here. That guy doesn't want to stop proposals,
Speaker 2: but the old Walt Disney Corporation has told him his
Speaker 2: job is to not let anybody stand there. Now, he
Speaker 2: should have cut them off at the pass shouldn't have
Speaker 2: let it get that far. The one can argue, once
Speaker 2: it's gotten that far, let them have the moment.
Speaker 3: You can say that this guy doesn't want to break
Speaker 3: up proposals as much as you want, but the demeanor
Speaker 3: of this man after he broke up this proposal does
Speaker 3: not seem like a guy that didn't enjoy what.
Speaker 4: He just did. Okay, but you can listen.
Speaker 2: I've seen it. I've seen the look on his face.
Speaker 2: And by the way, she got the proposal, and she
Speaker 2: got the whole thing, and now the whole world saw it.
Speaker 2: And this is he's he's he's telling them, come on,
Speaker 2: if you notice there's another guy there in purple doing
Speaker 2: the same thing, saying come on, I would be upset
Speaker 2: if I were that guy. I don't blash for the upset. Okay,
Speaker 2: now let again, let me defend that guy. You know
Speaker 2: what I see when I watch that video.
Speaker 4: You see a guy that loves his job.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I see a guy who every decision
Speaker 2: he's ever made in his life has led him to
Speaker 2: the point. It's where he's standing out in ninety eight
Speaker 2: degree Florida weather wearing Mickey Mouse ears, where he has
Speaker 2: his major responsibility is chastising people if they're running or
Speaker 2: stepping on the wrong things. Whatever it is. It's not
Speaker 2: a great you know what. He's not exactly you know.
Speaker 2: I feel like picking on him is is a little
Speaker 2: bit of bullying. He's not the powers that be, he
Speaker 2: doesn't love his gig. It's not like, ah, what could
Speaker 2: you do? He's like, well, had an opportunity to go
Speaker 2: work at Goldman. But I think I'm gonna see how
Speaker 2: these Mickey Mouse bouncer ears work for me for another
Speaker 2: six months. See if I can see if I get
Speaker 2: the promotion to the guy who gets to press the
Speaker 2: button to start the tea cup ride. I mean, get
Speaker 2: cut that guy a break, and I'm gonna say something else.
Speaker 4: Those people were just being too happy in front of
Speaker 4: them that No.
Speaker 2: I don't know good you know what. I also, I'm
Speaker 2: not a huge fan of the guy. Thats not a
Speaker 2: you know what. I feel like there's no winners in this, all.
Speaker 3: Right, you you raise you raised some fair points that
Speaker 3: the guy still on my bad side.
Speaker 2: I want to talk about the Jordan thing a little
Speaker 2: bit more. I think I want to prove to America
Speaker 2: how basic that Jordan play was. Because I had these
Speaker 2: clowns again, you should lose your Let me read some
Speaker 2: of the tweets I got. Let me see if I
Speaker 2: can find them again. A verified check mark probation should
Speaker 2: be a thing, because I've got uh, I've got let
Speaker 2: me find the people. Dude from the Bay Area saying
Speaker 2: tell me you hate Michael Jordan without telling me you
Speaker 2: hate Michael Jordan, whatever, this guy who writes for the
Speaker 2: New York Daily News. When sports media members have silly
Speaker 2: takes like this, the only comeback should be can you
Speaker 2: do better? And by the way, he wasn't the only
Speaker 2: one who said that. There was another guy who considers
Speaker 2: himself some NBA scout who says, what were you doing
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety one? Nick, I can guarantee you something
Speaker 2: basketball related. Guys, I want to make this very cool.
Speaker 2: When people who are in sports media criticize an athlete
Speaker 2: or point out something about hey, that wasn't done right
Speaker 2: or that's not as good as people make it out
Speaker 2: to be, no one is arguing they could themselves. The
Speaker 2: argument is, it's so it's such an absurd thing. And
Speaker 2: I don't mind when random folks are but when other
Speaker 2: media members are like, oh, I'd like to see you try.
Speaker 2: No you when I When I'm saying Draymond Green is
Speaker 2: not a good offensive basketball player, I am not saying
Speaker 2: that I could guard him. I'm not saying I could
Speaker 2: do better. Just like if someone's like, hey, I thought
Speaker 2: the latest Julia Roberts movie fell flat, They're like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'd like to see you on the silver screen. I
Speaker 2: couldn't do that, Jordan Leup, However, I bet you can.
Speaker 4: I could.
Speaker 2: I want to make this clearer and I don't want
Speaker 2: to be disrespectful to your basketball career. Demanse was not
Speaker 2: an NBA player. Demanse was not a Euro League player.
Speaker 2: Demande played some college basketball.
Speaker 4: And was dominant in his last few games.
Speaker 2: Okay, that that is true. That is true, and I
Speaker 2: was there for what Demonte was an excellent basketball player. However,
Speaker 2: nobody was like, hmm, Demanse or job, who's going to
Speaker 2: be a tough. Demande was a very good amateur basketball
Speaker 2: player who I would say is mostly out of practice.
Speaker 2: You play some, but you play. You played the least
Speaker 2: basketball of your life in the last eighteen months. Yes, right,
Speaker 2: you've got a real job. You got other things going on. Okay,
Speaker 2: before we're on the air, again, we are going to
Speaker 2: go to Riverbank or Rutger or somewhere. You are going
Speaker 2: to attempt the Jordan layup, and we are going to
Speaker 2: debut it on the next show we have.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna attempt to lay up.
Speaker 2: Do you think you can do it?
Speaker 4: I do.
Speaker 3: I think unless there's like some like huge degree of
Speaker 3: difficulty that I'm not keeping mind. But I've seen the layup,
Speaker 3: like I.
Speaker 2: Here's the degree of difficulty along with the Jordan layup.
Speaker 2: Can you get roughly forty million Americans to believe it's
Speaker 2: an all time great play that parts really hard. Actually
Speaker 2: doing it not that difficult at all. We'll have that
Speaker 2: for you for the next episode. This was what's right