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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: How you be here.

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Speaker 1: We're here Thursday. It's One Bill's Live. Glad you're here

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Speaker 1: with us. We'll be with you till three and we're

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Speaker 1: making our way through the AFC East now that the

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Speaker 1: bulk of off season roster construction is over. Spent yesterday

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Speaker 1: on the Patriots, will do the same today on the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into our topic, good discussion concerning those Dolphins

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Speaker 1: in just a second.

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Speaker 3: But you know, lot lots still going on around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I know Steve kind of has something he wants to

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Speaker 1: bring up with respect to draft choices and signing of

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Speaker 1: rookie contracts. I mean, we saw some other rookie sign

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Speaker 1: The Bill's whole draft class is signed already.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, most most teams aren't getting it done. If they

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Speaker 2: haven't got it done, there's only one or two guys

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Speaker 1: The Giants just today agreed to terms with their first

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Speaker 1: round pick Deontay Banks, the corner from Maryland, on his

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Speaker 1: four year deal. As we know, the Bill signed Dalton

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Speaker 1: Kincaid late last week, and the Vikings also signed late

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Speaker 1: yesterday wide receiver Jordan Addison, their first round pick to

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Speaker 1: his rookie contract, and yeah, I know this is this

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Speaker 1: is one of those waves of change things that happened

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Speaker 1: in large part to the new CBA that came through

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Speaker 1: in twenty eleven. Gone where the days gone were? The

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Speaker 1: day gone are the days of rookie holdout. It's a

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Speaker 1: training camp.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I sat down and asked Brownie, what's

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Speaker 2: one of the things of the NFL that was used

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Speaker 2: to be huge headline grabbers back in the day, And

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Speaker 2: it was an enormous story throughout the off season. What

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Speaker 2: was one of the things that is that is now

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Speaker 2: just a yawner nobody even cares about. And it's signing rookies,

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Speaker 2: the first round draft picks, first overall pick, second overall pick.

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Speaker 2: They used to have to wait their turn to get signed.

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Speaker 2: Sam Bradford's the last guy I'd ever have to go

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Speaker 2: through that. And it was always this huge story around

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Speaker 2: the country because this guy over here for Atlanta is

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Speaker 2: not going to sign his deal until the guy in

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Speaker 2: front of him or behind him signed his deal, and

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Speaker 2: they just we'd all sit around and wait. Now you've

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Speaker 2: got this where I was talking to Brandon Bean today,

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Speaker 2: Dalton Kincaid isn't here at rookie camp. He goes, and

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Speaker 2: Brandon's mumbling under his breath. He's like, the league takes

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Speaker 2: all the skill guys this year and takes them to

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Speaker 2: LA for a big thing. It's a trading card thing.

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Speaker 2: He's now a practice and we came in and it's illegal.

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Speaker 2: Even if he doesn't want to go, he can't practice

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Speaker 2: because the league says, it's you guys telling me has

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Speaker 2: to stay here in practice. So the league takes all

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Speaker 2: these young guys out to LA. Now it's the league

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Speaker 2: getting in the way of these guys practicing. But it

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Speaker 2: used to be and we all remember the old guys

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Speaker 2: my age. We all remember this. It was a big

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Speaker 2: deal to see what these rookie draft picks were going

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Speaker 2: to sign because it was all It was the wild

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Speaker 2: West when it came to these rookies rookie deals, right,

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Speaker 2: there was no structure that it wasn't a boiler plate

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Speaker 2: escalator in the cap that these guys were going to

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Speaker 2: get their contracts. And now it's the league. I think

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Speaker 2: the players are better off and the league is much

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Speaker 2: better off having these guys in there, get them ready.

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Speaker 2: They set them up for more success coming in. You

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Speaker 2: know when I was the year I got drafted, it

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Speaker 2: was Goose got picked first overall. Ray Childress got picked

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Speaker 2: second overall by the Houston Oilers, and he was a

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Speaker 2: guy who's my teammate. And it they weren't they weren't

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Speaker 2: a training camp. You know, they just weren't there. Ray

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Speaker 1: Game, right and I remember too, hold out said Bills

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Speaker 1: training camp. Dante Whitner was the first round pick and

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Speaker 1: it was a it was a frequent thing every summer.

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Speaker 1: And look, covering the team that was no picnic because

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Speaker 3: To begin with.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was yearly and it was all over

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Speaker 2: the league. Every team struggled to get it done, and

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Speaker 2: they don't even hesitate it. It's the league is much

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Speaker 2: better for it. And I think that's one of the things.

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Speaker 2: And it's not altruistic because the players Union was behind

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Speaker 2: much money at the beginning of their careers was not

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Speaker 2: beneficial to them. And you'd had other players on the

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Speaker 2: roster who had paid their dues and earned a chance

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Speaker 2: that so rookie contracts are about earning your way, and

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Speaker 2: like it or not, I think it's more fair. I

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Speaker 2: think it's more fair.

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Speaker 1: Well right, because it was getting a little ridiculous. I mean,

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Speaker 1: guys that hadn't played it down in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Were making life changing money.

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Speaker 1: Life changing money. When you had veterans that have been

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Speaker 1: which was peanuts by comparison, there is some I think

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Speaker 1: there's some obvious imbalance to that, and they set about

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Speaker 1: there are very few examples of rookies that are still

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Speaker 1: not under contract. Some other stuff going on around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: The Jets, as we know Steve, are trying to renegotiate

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers' contract to make his cap figure next year

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Speaker 1: more palatable. It's currently at one hundred and seven million,

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Speaker 1: but they don't have a lot of camp space this

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Speaker 3: To move some money around.

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Speaker 1: So now it becomes a shell game of sorts, you know,

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Speaker 1: not just with Aaron Rodgers, but with players on their

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Speaker 1: roster under contract. So it came out today that Jets

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Speaker 1: non guaranteed fifteen million, but is now going to be

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Speaker 1: paid a base salary of nine eight of eight million,

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Speaker 1: three and incentives. So he essentially takes a seven million

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Speaker 1: almost thirteen million in cap space as a result. Now,

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Speaker 1: It's to try to create enough cap space to get

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Speaker 1: an extension for Quinn Williams, Right quinnin, They're gonna have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a minute since the Jets had to

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Speaker 2: the hoops to get it done. CJ. Moseley's on the

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Speaker 2: make seventeen. Yeah, I mean at linebacker Corey Davis ten

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Speaker 3: But I'm telling you, I don't know if they need

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Corey Davis, think about it. They gotta make some

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Speaker 2: tough decisions. Either. They got to have some cash on

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Speaker 2: if it was an if it was nobody's guaranteed anything. CJ.

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Speaker 2: Mosley is going to be on their team. Carl Lawson

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Speaker 1: I mean they just drafted another pass rusher in the

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Speaker 2: Right, So they're finding ways to get these guys under

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Speaker 2: thinking it's it's a That's why Carl lass says, yes,

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Speaker 2: I will do that deal, thank you. He's instead of.

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Speaker 1: Making he's got to get back on the field instead

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Speaker 2: Instead of making fifteen, he's saying, okay, I'll make eight

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Speaker 1: So that's and lining up next to Quinnon Williams, I'm

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Speaker 2: Teams right, And he's very with his hat in his hand,

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Speaker 2: because instead of going fifteen taking a chance at fifteen million,

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Speaker 2: he's taken eight million. No question.

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Speaker 1: Well, he wasn't going to get fifteen million. It's either

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Speaker 2: Or you're have to go elsewhere, or you're gonna have

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Speaker 2: to sign a deal for a veteran minimum, maybe around

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Speaker 1: Somewhere else, somewhere else where. Nobody has any money left,

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Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, And so the the buck doesn't just

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Speaker 1: stop with Carl Lawson. The Jets have more work to

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Speaker 1: do because you're talking about two gigantic contracts. If what's

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Speaker 1: ninety it's gonna be over ninety million over four years.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting. So Bill's fans, I mean, we're sitting here.

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Speaker 2: We talk about it all the time. We laugh about it.

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Speaker 2: like serious questioning, like this, what if this is the

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Speaker 2: thing that makes it go up in flames for the

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Speaker 2: Jets because you always think it's gonna be something. Nothing

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Speaker 2: for everybody, anybody. Nothing goes completely right. The Jets can't

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Speaker 2: fit it, and all of a sudden, Quentinn Williams gone,

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Speaker 2: it was gonna be. Well they're not. Well, boom start

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Speaker 2: the season one in three, dude, it just light. You'd

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Speaker 2: it right. I mean, it's not just they're learning like

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Speaker 2: A f C West.

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Speaker 1: Derek Carr, Baker Mayfield, Desmond Ritter, and Bryce Young. Bryce

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Speaker 2: He is tiny, he looks he's taken snaps from under center,

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Speaker 3: Gonna be just worry about that guy. I think it's

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Speaker 2: How do you not he could, He could prove all

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Speaker 2: Then that's right, what's what's happening? When they send pressure?

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Speaker 1: No, you get a holding call on a second and ten.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'll say this, but Jesus out of me, he brings

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Speaker 3: It's a risk.

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Speaker 2: That's what he did he trained and learned how to

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Speaker 2: So I'm I'm Bryce Shong has a ways to go.

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Speaker 2: Tua has a lot to prove, probably to himself and

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Speaker 1: them in the playoff game.

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Speaker 3: What do you.

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Speaker 1: Believe would heighten the Bills Dolphins rivalry this season? Can

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Speaker 1: let us know at eight oh three oh five point

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Speaker 1: fifty one eight eight eight five point fifty two five

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Speaker 1: fifty the number to get on board.

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Speaker 3: You can hit us up on the tweet Sheeta one

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Speaker 3: Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: What do you think would ratchet up the dial of

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Speaker 1: intensity on the Bills Dolphins rivalry this season. Is it

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Speaker 1: something somebody's got to say off the field the Jack

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Speaker 1: people up, you know, is it something that has to

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Speaker 1: happen in the regular season to you know, increase the intensity?

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Speaker 3: Should there be another postseason matchup?

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Speaker 1: I mean, Steve and his teams went through this with

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins for years as they were the two best teams.

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Speaker 2: And say that it says something that the teams met

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Speaker 2: in the playoffs this last year and they split the

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Speaker 2: season series, no matter what the circumstances were in all

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Speaker 2: three games were one possession games, They were hard fought.

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Speaker 2: Does that is that enough sizzle for Bill's fans or

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Speaker 2: do they you know, does the game have to mean something?

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Speaker 2: What would spice it up for Bill's fans? That's it's

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Speaker 2: basically the question, and I think, you know, really not much.

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Speaker 3: I don't think, yeah, well, well, here's the other thing too.

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Speaker 1: I think everybody can agree that the Bills Patriots rivalry

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Speaker 1: has gone away because the Patriots aren't what they used

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Speaker 1: to be. And so while I think there is still

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Speaker 1: scar tissue and genuine disdain because Belichick is still there,

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Speaker 1: the rivalry is not what it was, and people in

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Speaker 1: New England wouldn't even and called it a rivalry. What

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Speaker 1: existed the seventeen years prior. Eighteen years prior, they would

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Speaker 1: view that as outright domination. For Bills fans, it was

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Speaker 1: a rivalry because.

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Speaker 3: It couldn't beat that dang team.

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Speaker 1: But now that's completely gone away, and I would say

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Speaker 1: the Patriots are over here on the wayside, and the

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Speaker 1: next most logical candidate in light of how the last

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Speaker 1: couple of seasons have gone in terms of main AFC

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Speaker 1: East rival are the Dolphins. But what has to take

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Speaker 1: that rivalry to the next.

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Speaker 3: Level this year?

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Speaker 1: You can let us know at eight h three oh

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Speaker 1: five point fifty one eighty eight five fifty two, five

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Speaker 1: fifty the number to get on board or hit us

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Speaker 1: up on the tweets sheet at One Bill's Live. Let's

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Speaker 1: go to the phones, and I believe this is Robert

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Speaker 1: in Ashville.

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Speaker 3: What do you got for us? Robert your on One

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Speaker 3: Bill's Live.

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Speaker 4: Hey, how you boys doing today?

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Speaker 3: Good?

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 5: What happens at.

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Speaker 4: When the season starts and a team is not under

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Speaker 4: the cap? What what's the NFL do?

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Speaker 3: Well? They have to be under the cap by the

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Speaker 3: start of the league.

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Speaker 1: Here, which is you know the opening of free agency,

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Speaker 1: they have to have that done in March.

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Speaker 2: And then it's their top fifty one, so they can

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Speaker 2: have ninety guys on the roster, but they got the

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Speaker 2: top fifty one have to be under the cap. So

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Speaker 2: if they're not under the cap, they start getting I

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Speaker 2: think fined and draft picks taken away until they are.

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Speaker 2: Now's a good question.

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Speaker 1: Now, when you do get to the regular season, Robert,

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Speaker 1: all the salaries count towards the salary cap, along with

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Speaker 1: practice squad players, of which there are now sixteen, So

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Speaker 1: they do have to jump through some more hoops as

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Speaker 1: they get closer and closer to the regular season, and

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Speaker 1: it's no longer the top fifty one salaries account against

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Speaker 1: the cap, it's the whole roster, So there will be

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Speaker 1: some accounting and maneuvering that teams will have to undergo

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Speaker 1: there if they are tight against it now, But more

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Speaker 1: often than not, teams plan for that all summer and

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Speaker 1: have that kind of covered. So I hope that I

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Speaker 1: hope that sufficient answer.

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Speaker 2: It's a good question. I don't know if they're I

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Speaker 2: don't know what the penalties are for being over the cap,

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Speaker 2: whether and I don't know how severe they get or

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Speaker 2: if they're escalating, the longer they go without being under

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Speaker 2: the cap. So it's a good question, and I have

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Speaker 2: to ask. I'm gonna ask Brandon, Will ask Brandon Bean.

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Speaker 2: Then if if we get.

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Speaker 1: A chance, if the team goes over the salary cap,

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Speaker 1: they're fined upwards of five million dollars for each violation.

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Speaker 1: In more severe scenarios, draft picks can be confiscated, whats

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Speaker 1: and player contracts can be voided.

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Speaker 2: Right, what's what's every instance? Though? I mean how many players?

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Speaker 2: I mean, how do they going over the cap? Is

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Speaker 2: like all fifty three players? Which which instance would be

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Speaker 2: an instance? So if they found if they're found over

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Speaker 2: the cap, now find five million bucks, yep, and they

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Speaker 2: get and they have what if they're twenty million dollars

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Speaker 2: over the cap? They save the twenty million by not

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, they have to they don't

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Speaker 2: pay any more.

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Speaker 1: Out Well, yeah, but now you're getting fined like some

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Speaker 1: of that.

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Speaker 2: You already got fined five million bucks.

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Speaker 3: So that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So you're over if you're over the cap twenty million,

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Speaker 1: that's not necessarily twenty million out of your pocket.

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Speaker 3: You know what?

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Speaker 2: I mean exactly. Yeah, I get it.

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Speaker 3: So why am I gonna pay five million? You know

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Speaker 3: what I mean? So get under the cap.

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Speaker 1: It behooves you believe me, the league has set this

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Speaker 1: up in such a way where it behooves every team

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Speaker 1: in the league to get under.

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Speaker 2: My point would be this, and what I guess what

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to ask, and I'm not doing a very

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Speaker 2: good job if you're over the cap, like now, if

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Speaker 2: they pop over the cap, is that considered a single instance?

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Speaker 2: And then they get back under? And what if somebody

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Speaker 2: hits an esque or whatever, and you know they're gonna

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Speaker 2: have to somebody gets a bonus for being on the

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Speaker 2: roster and it puts them over or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Then I think there are I think there are lever

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Speaker 1: levels of this violation. If you are barely over the

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Speaker 1: cap and for some reason you didn't get under there's

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Speaker 1: an accounting error or your guy in accounting doesn't know

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Speaker 1: what the hell he's doing, you get fined five million dollars.

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Speaker 3: If you're ten million over, it's a blatant disregard for

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Speaker 3: the rule, like what are you doing?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 1: More severe five million dollars fine, first round rap pick,

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Speaker 1: draft pick confiscated and that guy that costs you ten

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Speaker 1: million dollars that puts you over the cap, his contracts

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Speaker 1: noll and void. He's free agent and you can't resign him.

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Speaker 2: So that's the case.

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Speaker 7: I can.

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Speaker 2: I can get behind that. But that's yeah, because it's

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Speaker 2: gotta be really egregious. I'm not really egregious. It's got

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Speaker 2: to be really.

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Speaker 3: The rules just following right, I mean, what are you doing?

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: The rules have to be really dict Executives in this

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Speaker 1: league almost have way too much money to not get

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Speaker 1: that right.

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Speaker 2: You've really got I think those rules and those penalties

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Speaker 2: have to be really draconian for somebody being over the cap,

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Speaker 2: because that bookkeeping is not an excuse.

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Speaker 3: Break time for us here.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, we want to know from you

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Speaker 1: what would heighten the Bills Dolphins rivalry in its current

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Speaker 1: iteration this season. You give us your thoughts when we return.

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Speaker 1: All phone calls, all the time. Next CJ and Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Rick and Brockport will lead us off when we return

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Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Live, presented by Klida Health, It's

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 3: All right back here on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve tasking with you and talking about the

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Speaker 1: budding Bills Dolphins rivalry and what it would take for

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Speaker 1: you to take that rivalry to the next level. What

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Speaker 1: has to happen either leading up to the season, during

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Speaker 1: the season, another meeting in the postseason. What is it

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Speaker 1: going to take for you to see this Bills Dolphins

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Speaker 1: rivalry at its peak? You let us know at eight

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Speaker 1: oh three oh five fifty got an open line for

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Speaker 1: you there one eight eight eight five fifty two five

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Speaker 1: fifteen number to get on board. Let's go to CJ

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo next.

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Speaker 3: What do you got for a CJ. You're on one

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Speaker 3: Bill's Live.

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Speaker 6: Hey, Chris Ay, Steve, Hey, I just think we should

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Speaker 6: advertise it and make it like a boxing match, because

605
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Speaker 6: the only person that talks the most and is also

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Speaker 6: our good luck chime is Jaylen Ramsey. I believe he's

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Speaker 6: zero and two versus Josh Allen, and I would just

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Speaker 6: I would just keep playing like to advertise his game.

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Speaker 6: The clip of one Robert Foster going deep in Josh

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Speaker 6: Allen being hit by several defensive linemen and then the

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Speaker 6: next play of him on the rams where Stefan Diggs

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Speaker 6: catch the bomb over him and then listen to his

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Speaker 6: comments after each game of how it kind of changes

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Speaker 6: from yeah, that was a bad pick to uh, you know,

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Speaker 6: he's not really saying Josh Allen is good, but he's

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Speaker 6: not saying he's bad either. He just won't comment on

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Speaker 6: it pretty much. You know, he's an okay quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's actually owing three now. I had

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Speaker 1: forgot about the Jacksonville game, So he's oh for three

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Speaker 1: because the game that nobody saw year in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: in Week three, they beat him with the Tyler Eifer

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Speaker 1: touchdown at the end of the game thirty five thirty two.

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Speaker 2: Also, Steph Diggs kind of touchdown one on one against

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Speaker 2: JAD the tunnel end zone, the tunnel end zones, and.

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Speaker 1: Then he got beat over the top on the chuck

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Speaker 1: deep to Stefan in Week one in the season kickoff game.

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Speaker 2: He is not farreedwell against the fun Higgs and Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: That's right, and in fairness CJ Jalen Ramsey finally broke

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Speaker 1: down and gave it up after the Week one loss

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Speaker 1: when they got routed thirty one to ten, and he

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Speaker 1: called him a top five quarterback.

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Speaker 3: So it took three.

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Speaker 1: Straight defeats at the hands of Josh Allen.

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Speaker 3: But Jayalen Ramsey.

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Speaker 1: Finally, and for those that don't know, he is going

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Speaker 1: to be a starting corner for the Dolphins this year.

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Speaker 3: That's why CJ brings him up.

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Speaker 2: They wrung him up in twenty twenty when nobody was watching.

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Speaker 2: The Bills lit him up pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Now they went after him and man on man man.

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Speaker 2: They went right after him one on one, man on

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Speaker 2: man with Steph Diggs, and Steph Diggs turned him into

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Speaker 2: a and Cork screwed him and caught a touchdown. So, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're right.

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Speaker 3: That's the kind of personality that can heighten the rivalry.

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Speaker 2: Though. That's exactly right Jalen Ramsey. For all we've just

647
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Speaker 2: said about how the Bills of the guy can really play,

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Speaker 2: he is really good now he you know, as a corner,

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Speaker 2: you can only do so much when you have to

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Speaker 2: cover for six seconds or whatever. What was going on

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Speaker 2: with him the Rams last year when Aaron Donald went down.

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Speaker 2: The guy can really play, and to his credit or

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Speaker 2: to his detriment, he knows it. And if you can

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Speaker 2: if you don't think he can play, just ask him.

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Speaker 2: He'll tell you different. The guy can really really go

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Speaker 2: he's incredibly gifted, but he he loves he loves the

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Speaker 2: chatter and he's good at it. So and yeah, so STIGs.

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Speaker 2: So you're right. I think you're right. I think you

659
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Speaker 2: One of the ways you heighten this rivalry is to

660
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 2: get both teams talking about the other one, because it's

661
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 2: fun to go and see him go out there and

662
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 2: see who can back it up.

663
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is fine.

664
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 2: That's good.

665
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: I am curious to see if he'll say anything this

666
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: time around.

667
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 3: He's oer for three, so.

668
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: I don't know, is he smart enough to keep his

669
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: mouth shut this time and just not say anything, or

670
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 1: does he want to does he want to think so?

671
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: Does he want to keep poking the bear?

672
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 2: I think that's the way he does it. You know,

673
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 2: he has no problem doing it because he's you know,

674
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 2: if you're gonna talk like that in this at this level,

675
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 2: sooner later you're gonna get humbled at some point. And

676
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 2: it's happened to him a couple of times. But he's

677
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 2: also but he's also been a guy who's been standing

678
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 2: in the end zone with the ball in his hands. Yeah,

679
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 2: you know, he's been going back to the other direction

680
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 2: with it too, So he knows it'll come around and

681
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 2: maybe he thinks he's gonna be due this game, all right.

682
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 2: You know it's it's hard to dominate a guy entirely

683
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 2: for their career, no matter who you play for. But

684
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 2: now they're gonna be playing him twice a year, he's

685
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 2: gonna have a lot of chance to back up that

686
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 2: first thing he said about Josh Allen, he said he

687
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 2: was trash back in twenty twenty.

688
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 3: Let's go to Dave and Clarence next.

689
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 7: What do you got for us, Dave, Hey, Ronnie and Steve.

690
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 7: I remember being at the game last year and walking

691
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 7: out of the stadium after the game was over, and

692
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 7: these Miami fans were channing, we beat Buffalo, We beat Buffalo.

693
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 7: It was like they had won the Super Bowl. So

694
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 7: as far as the rivalry heightened is concerned, it's already

695
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 7: heightened in Miami. But as far as the Bills are concerned,

696
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 7: what would heighten this rivalry, probably take it to the

697
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 7: zenith level, would be if the two teams started out

698
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 7: on a parallel projectory and ended up, if possible, ending

699
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 7: up in a virtual tie leading into that eighteenth week

700
00:36:55,800 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 7: game January seventh. I mean, no other game in the

701
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 7: NFL schedule that day would matter. I mean if it

702
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 7: would be winners take all, and so I think, if

703
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 7: you will believe it or not, under current there is

704
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 7: a heightened reality on both sides that this is a real,

705
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 7: real rivalry.

706
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point, Dave. You know, and the

707
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: NFL schedule makers feel similarly. They have control as to

708
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 1: how to lay this thing out. I don't think it's

709
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 1: an accident that they chose to put Buffalo in Miami

710
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 1: last in Week eighteen.

711
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 3: I mean, if they.

712
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: Felt better about the Jets, maybe it's Bill's Jets in

713
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: Week eighteen, hoping that's for the division title. They got

714
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: the Jets playing the Patriots. So that's the choice the

715
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: league consciously made. And yeah, if that is on the

716
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: line in Week eighteen, Yeah, the rivalry goes through the

717
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: roof instantly that week.

718
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 2: That's the way it was way back in that when

719
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: this rivalry has been very heated. I remember it started

720
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty because up until that time that rivalry

721
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 2: wasn't a rivalry. The Bills were over the seventies against

722
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 2: the Dolphins, and then in the eighties they beat him

723
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 2: in the first game of nineteen eighty early in the

724
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 2: season first matchup, so that monkey was off the back

725
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 2: of the Bills. And then because of the fact that

726
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins were so good and they were still

727
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 2: really good, and all of that Bills fans and plus

728
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 2: the you know, the city got a bad rap and

729
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 2: the team had been struggling. So that was the team

730
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 2: that they set their sights on to take out every year.

731
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 2: And then when they get Jim Kelly, then when they

732
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 2: get Dan Marino. The games took on a magnitude that

733
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 2: transcended the hatred the fan bases had for each other.

734
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 2: And I think that's the meaningfulness of the games is big,

735
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: and it was I remember multiple times we played the

736
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins, winner is going to win division. In the

737
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: second meeting of that year, the winner is going to

738
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 2: be the division champion. And that is I think is

739
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 2: as sure fire away as anything to heat up a rivalry.

740
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 2: And yeah, that that's the way, That's how it was.

741
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 2: That's how it became very heated when I played way

742
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 2: back in the day. And that you look around the

743
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 2: league at other rivalries that are heated, Pittsburgh Baltimore, it's

744
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 2: always for the division. And that's you know, so that's

745
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 2: the most sure fire way to heat up a rivalry.

746
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 3: Let's go to George in fort Erenex. What do you

747
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 3: got for us? George?

748
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 5: Hey, love you. I love Steve Tasker. I just love you.

749
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 3: Thanks man.

750
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 5: Anyhow, you know what, I think it's a rivalry. But

751
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 5: I go to the Miami Games down there, and they

752
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 5: don't think it's a rivalry. They were not their rivals.

753
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 5: New England is their rivals, you know what I'm saying.

754
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 5: Like it's like it's like Montreal, Toronto's not Muchrell's rival

755
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 5: Boston is. But the only way to make of her

756
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 5: to restore the rivalry. And I agree with Steve what

757
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 5: you just said. Back Yeah, back then, it was it

758
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 5: was pretty Uh, it was pretty heated in the eighties

759
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 5: and nineties. Remember we beat him. We beat him at

760
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 5: Miami in the AFC Championship as a wild card. So

761
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 5: I mean we have had we have had. I think

762
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,919
Speaker 5: we've had really great success in the last twenty five

763
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 5: or thirty years against a team that hasn't won a

764
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 5: Super Bowl in fifty two years. I'm getting kicked off

765
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 5: just talking about it. But anyhow, my point is they

766
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 5: don't see us at rivals, which which ticks me off. Yeah,

767
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what. We start kicking their butt a

768
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 5: few times, they might they might forget in New England

769
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 5: and turn their sights on us.

770
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: Now. I mean there was a time where Josh Allen

771
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 1: had won six straight against them, and that finally ended

772
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: last year in Week three in the Sahara Desert game.

773
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: So you know that that finally ended, and that's why,

774
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: as we heard David Clarence earlier say, they they were

775
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: like partying in the streets after that game in Week three.

776
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 3: Ah, we beat Buffalo.

777
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 1: We beat Buffalo because they hadn't in six meetings, right,

778
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: So so that was maybe a turning point for them

779
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: to maybe look at Buffalo a little bit differently, like, hey,

780
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: maybe we can hang with these guys and let's not

781
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: kid ourselves. Josh Allen had to put a cape on

782
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: in the second meeting here, I mean, they're down and

783
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: he orchestrates an unbelievable game winning drive at the end

784
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: of the game, setting up Tyler Bass for the game

785
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: winning field goal to win thirty two to twenty nine.

786
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: I mean, they were on the they were on the

787
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: ropes there, yeah, late in that game.

788
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were, they were you know, for all the

789
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 2: reasons and all the things they had to come over

790
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 2: in in during the season, Josh Allen doing what you said,

791
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 2: just carrying the team and the whole city on his

792
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 2: back in that playoff game is really the reason.

793
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 3: I'm talking about the regular season.

794
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: On the regular season game.

795
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 3: Put his cape on on that last drive. It was

796
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 3: like a thirteen play drive. That was a couple of

797
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 3: fourth downs. He won the game for them. They got

798
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 3: a He was the difference.

799
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 2: He has got to be the I don't know, what

800
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 2: do you call it? The arch enemy of Dolphin fans.

801
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 2: Josh Allen absolutely just slaps the Dolphins when he plays him.

802
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 2: If he can't get it done's because nobody does anything

803
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 2: else on art.

804
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 3: There was a.

805
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: Stretch we were calling it the Who's your Daddy?

806
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 2: Game? Yeah, that's exactly right and it and it really

807
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,919
Speaker 2: still is because if the Bills win, he just absolutely

808
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 2: ropes him, you know what I mean, He just he's

809
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: throwing haymakers at him. He's the best player on the

810
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 2: field by far.

811
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: Fifteen play, eighty six yard drive to end the game

812
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: at the gun with a twenty five yard field goal,

813
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: and he was responsible for that drive in every way

814
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: shape or form. He puts his cape on and was

815
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,240
Speaker 1: superman to beat the Dolphins. My point is the Dolphins

816
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: aren't far off, like Josh had to do some superhuman

817
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: stuff at home to beat that team.

818
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right there. The division.

819
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're a good team.

820
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 2: The Dolphins are a good team, particularly when they're really

821
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 2: healthy and two is playing, and that's because of the

822
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 2: way their offense is structured. It's gonna be it. I

823
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 2: think it's really a good rivalry the way it is now.

824
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 2: I mean it is the Bills. They split in the

825
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 2: regular season last year, and the Bills beat them at

826
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 2: home in the playoffs by three. I think it's a

827
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 2: really good rivalry the way it is right now. But

828
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 2: bigger games make for bigger rivalries.

829
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: We have to take a break here filling North Town,

830
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: and Wanda will lead us off when we return. How

831
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: do you heighten the Bills Dolphins rivalry even more?

832
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 3: Give us your thoughts.

833
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: Maybe it's somebody saying something off the field, maybe it's

834
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 1: something that happens on the field, but you let us know.

835
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 3: At eight h three oh five fifty. We're back with

836
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 3: your calls next, all right, you gonna jump right back

837
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 3: to the.

838
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: Phones as we're looking for answers from you as to

839
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: how do we even heighten the Bills Dolphins rivalry even

840
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: further after a split of the season series last year,

841
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: in a three point playoff game in the wildcard round

842
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: last playoff period, we lead off with Phil in north

843
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 1: Tonawanda has promised what you got for us.

844
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 4: Phil, Thanks for taking my call. Guys, you don't have

845
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 4: to heighten it anymore for us guys that have been

846
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 4: around for a long time. This is my thirty fifth

847
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 4: year as a season ticket holder, and for the previous

848
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 4: thirty four years, I didn't care if we went two

849
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 4: and fourteen as long as we beat the Dolphins twice. Okay,

850
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 4: so the rival will always be there for me. The

851
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 4: thing about the Miami people is that they, like you said,

852
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 4: Josh has owns them right now, and I don't need

853
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 4: anything heightened because it's my favorite game to go to.

854
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 4: My best game ever was the Houston comeback game, and

855
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 4: every other time we spanked Miami, you know, back when

856
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 4: Jim Kelly won that game. I was a little kid

857
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 4: when when Dolphins used to beat us all the time,

858
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 4: and then when Kelly finally dove in an end zone

859
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 4: against Miami that one time. I don't think I ever

860
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 4: felt any better, you know what I'm saying. So the

861
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 4: Miami rivalry doesn't need heighten for the old people. The

862
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 4: young people don't understand. They didn't. They didn't. They didn't

863
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 4: they didn't live through those days when Miami dominated US,

864
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 4: and they're New England. It's New England for the young generation.

865
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 4: Like Steve was trying to say, you know, the rivalry

866
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 4: is good and bad from before, but it's kind of generational,

867
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 4: you know. For the old guys, it's Miami was a rival.

868
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 4: For the young guys, it's New England as our arrival,

869
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 4: but as the division game, as long as that's for

870
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 4: the division at the end of the year. I mean,

871
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 4: I want to go to Miami. I'm thinking about going

872
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 4: to January seventh, Son was like a good time to

873
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 4: visit Miami.

874
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, you're and I appreciate you, Phil

875
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:03,919
Speaker 2: that you're one of the guys. We've got another guy

876
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 2: on our We may read this later in the tweets sheet,

877
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 2: but I'll read it now. And he's like you, he says,

878
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 2: there's nothing that could that could heat up the Miami

879
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 2: Buffalo rivalry. I have currently I currently do and will

880
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 2: hate them as much with as much vitriol and passion

881
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 2: as humanly possible until the day that I leave this

882
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 2: glorious earth. So there are certain people like Phil and

883
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 2: like this guy, DARRYL Unchanging, who we'll always have a

884
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 2: hate filled passion for the Dolphins. So there's a lot

885
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 2: in it. I've got one of my close friends here

886
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: in town. To this very day, I find guy for

887
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 2: playing golf. I find people a dollar for bringing it up.

888
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 2: He saw Dick Jiron on the day of a Miami

889
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 2: game at like five am. I mean, it's like barely daybreak.

890
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 2: Giron goes out to unwind, plays quick nine holes before

891
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 2: home games because it's the only time so Drawn's playing golf.

892
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 2: And he sees him before Miami game at one o'clock.

893
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 2: You know, it's five am. Nobody's you know, And to

894
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 2: this very day he that is why Dick Drawn is

895
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 2: a horrific football coach, because he didn't take that rivalry seriously.

896
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 3: That's his contention, your friends.

897
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 2: Contention, friends, contention is that Dick darn you knew he

898
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,919
Speaker 2: was a loser when he wow when he didn't take

899
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins rivalry as seriously, as my friend did.

900
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I get it.

901
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 2: I mean, that's it's there is a generation of people.

902
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 2: That's it, man, That is the rivalry.

903
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 3: Back to the phones into Riley and Jamestown.

904
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: What do you got Riley, Hey.

905
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 8: Guys, thanks for making my call. So I mean, if

906
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 8: you learned to take pick one player on the Bills

907
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 8: and pick their anyone player picked the biggest rival they have.

908
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 8: I think the biggest duo rivalry, you know, player to

909
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 8: player that currently exists on our team is Stefan Diggs

910
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 8: and Jalen Ramsey. And I think him coming over to

911
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 8: Miami is just gonna ramp up. I mean, that's gonna

912
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 8: that whole those who are going to be going at

913
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 8: it constantly twice a year now, and I think I

914
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 8: think that's gonna add a little chippiness to the rivalry.

915
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 8: And then with social media being what it is, Twitter is,

916
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 8: Twitter is a really interesting beast and it's it seems

917
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 8: like nowadays you can't you can't get see uh Bill's post,

918
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 8: whether it's by the teams, social media or any of

919
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 8: you guys anything, and it doesn't instantly get run over

920
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 8: by Miami fans. Talking about Josh Allen and talking about

921
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 8: the Sun game and all that stuff. I think the

922
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 8: rivalry is here, and I think it's it's self providing

923
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 8: and it's such it carries itself just by existing and

924
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 8: just by playing them every year. I don't think that

925
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 8: anything needs to change. I think it's already happening. I mean,

926
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,280
Speaker 8: now that they're the you know that they're the second

927
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 8: best team in the I mean it's only rightfully so.

928
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 2: And I think one of the things that really helped

929
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: it in the last two years is the fact that

930
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 2: Miami finally got their guy. They tanked for Tua and

931
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 2: they got him. So there's gonna be that segment of

932
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 2: Miami fans that are gonna say, our guy against your guy.

933
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 2: We got our guy, we're gonna be good. You got

934
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 2: your guy, You're gonna be bad. You know, here we

935
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 2: go and we're gonna prove it. There isn't really a

936
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 2: thing like, you know, we don't have Kyle Whorton playing

937
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 2: Tom Brady. You know, to is a historic figure because

938
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 2: he was a very high draft pick and he was

939
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 2: anointed and brought in and he took over. That's his team.

940
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 2: And so it's Jim Kelly and Dan Marino. You know,

941
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 2: it's John Elway and Dan Fouts. You know it's it's

942
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 2: those kind of stars and and iconic names for the

943
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 2: franchise that make a difference. And Tua and Josh are

944
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 2: two names like that, and aside from Jayalen Ramsey and

945
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 2: Steph Diggs, stars make it.

946
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 3: Oh, they help, no question about it.

947
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: We got to take a break here, but we begin

948
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: our number two when we return with NFL Dolphins writer

949
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: for Sports Illustrated Alan Poop par He's gonna help us

950
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:20,240
Speaker 1: out with some of the roster construction the Dolphins undertook

951
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: this offseason where they are considerably stronger and where they

952
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: might still be a little bit vulnerable. We'll catch up

953
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 1: with him next here on One Bill's Live presented by

954
00:50:30,400 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 1: Colida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

955
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 2: This this One Bill's Live presented by called Lighta Health.

956
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 1: All right, here we are our number two on a Thursday.

957
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and please to be

958
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: joined now by a guy who's been covering the Dolphins

959
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: for quite a long time. It's NFL Dolphins writer for

960
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated, Alan Poop are joining us on the show.

961
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: Friend of the Show and good to have you with us, Alan.

962
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: Hopefully you're enjoying what's about to be a little bit

963
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: of an off season coming up here with some summer

964
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: on the horizon. But there are still some things we

965
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: wonder about with the Dolphins offseason construction, so that's why

966
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: you're here. Thanks for giving us some time. I have

967
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:51,720
Speaker 1: to begin right out of the gate with offensive tackle.

968
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: We know that you know Tron Armstead was playing with

969
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: half a body last year and gutted his way through it.

970
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: Austin j also injured and for the most part of

971
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: disappointment in his time in a Dolphins uniform as a

972
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 1: former first.

973
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 3: Round draft choice.

974
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: Have the Dolphins done enough through the course of this

975
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: offseason at offensive tackle to be better up front for Tua?

976
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 9: First off, I fellas, Yeah, that's a very good question,

977
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 9: and it's one that I think Dolphin fans are not

978
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 9: particularly thrilled with the answer so far. The Dolphins just

979
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 9: this week signed Isaiah Win, former first round pick of

980
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 9: the Patriots. Cedric a boy he I believe is how

981
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 9: he pronounced the last name. I call him Cedric Co

982
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 9: to make it simple, former first round pick of the Bengals,

983
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 9: and those guys will add depth, they add some position versatility,

984
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 9: and they will add competition in case Austin Jackson Prosey

985
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 9: can't get the job done at right tackle because jam

986
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 9: Chris Greer told us I don't know, I want to

987
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 9: say about a month ago that Austin Jackson was the

988
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 9: guy who was their starting tackle. As you mentioned, his

989
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 9: career has not got enough to a great start. Twenty

990
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 9: twenty first round pick, eighteenth overall selection. They moved him

991
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 9: to right tackle last off season, see if you could

992
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 9: get the job done. There after they had signed Toron

993
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 9: arms Set to play the left side. Never really got

994
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 9: a chance to show what he could do because in

995
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 9: the opener he sustained the high ankle sprain, was out

996
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 9: for about nine weeks, comes back boom, first game, he's

997
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 9: back injured again, and he was done for the year.

998
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,280
Speaker 9: So the truth is, we don't know what the Dolphins

999
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 9: have in Austin Jackson at right tackle based on his

1000
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 9: body of work, what he did at left tackle and

1001
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 9: that left guard. There's reason to be concerned, and there's

1002
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 9: also a reason to be concerned that maybe.

1003
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 10: Is it enough that they signed Isaiah Winn and Cedric Coe.

1004
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 9: As fallback options in case training camp arrives and the

1005
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 9: Dolphin coaches look at Austin Jackson and go, oh, that

1006
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 9: guy not gonna get it done. On the other side,

1007
00:53:55,719 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 9: toront Arms said, look, fabulous player. The reality is he's

1008
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 9: never played a full season in the NFL. That was

1009
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 9: the case last year. He gutted it out as you mentioned,

1010
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 9: I mean it was the body parts kept adding up

1011
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 9: on the injury report every week.

1012
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 10: It started with I can't.

1013
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 9: Even remember as too many to knee peck, I mean,

1014
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 9: you name it. He had it at one point or another.

1015
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 9: But when he was on the field for the most part,

1016
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 9: he was great. But he's a guy he's not getting

1017
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 9: any younger. Is thirty three thirty four, so you have

1018
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 9: to knock on wood he stays healthy because if he

1019
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,879
Speaker 9: doesn't there are concerns, then there's an issue that left

1020
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 9: to guard too. And then you didn't ask me that,

1021
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 9: but I'm going to volunteer it anyway. And that they

1022
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 9: have an unproven guy there as well in Leam Mikenberg,

1023
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 9: the second round pick out of Notre Dame in twenty

1024
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 9: twenty one, correct last year, and that coaches kept telling

1025
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 9: us at the time he got already got her in

1026
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 9: the Detroit game, which was early November, i want to say,

1027
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 9: or very late October. The coaches kept saying that he

1028
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 9: was playing his best football of the season. Well, early on,

1029
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 9: it wasn't impressive is his work, and it did look

1030
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 9: from us that he was making some progress, but the

1031
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 9: coaches were running and raving about how well he was progressing.

1032
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 9: Now he's starting from scratch, and that's another question mark

1033
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 9: on an offensive line that absolutely has to be good.

1034
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 9: The Dolphins have those that phenomenal speed outside with Tyreek, Killing,

1035
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 9: Jail and Waddell with which they can do a lot

1036
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 9: of great things. And then two, well, last year when

1037
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 9: he was in the lineup for the most part until

1038
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 9: late in the season, was doing a really good job

1039
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 9: of getting the ball to those guys let him do

1040
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 9: their thing. But the offensive line is still an area

1041
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 9: of concern at this point.

1042
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 2: Well, and you look at the offensive line and the

1043
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 2: other people around two, and you start with you know,

1044
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 2: we were talking just before we came on the air.

1045
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 2: They took Devon a Chain in the draft running back.

1046
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 2: He's a small, smallesh running back, very fast out of

1047
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,800
Speaker 2: Texas A and M. They're getting even faster further down

1048
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 2: their roster. And then it got Miles gask and Raheem Moster,

1049
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 2: They resigned Jeff Wilson, Chris Brooks. What about the running game,

1050
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 2: the running backs and how they will fit into, you know,

1051
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 2: that passing game that's so much built on timing and

1052
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 2: quick release.

1053
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 9: Correct And then one of the things Mike sim one

1054
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 9: of the things Mike McDaniel said after the scene that

1055
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 9: the owners meeting, specifically when it came to the running

1056
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 9: in the Dolphins ranked like in the bottom third in

1057
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 9: the NFL in rushing yards per game. But Mike McDaniel

1058
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 9: bemoan the fact that he didn't stick with the running

1059
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 9: game long enough in certain instances where the running game

1060
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 9: was being productive. But let's face it, it's very easy to

1061
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,879
Speaker 9: get caught up in the excitement of trying to drum

1062
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 9: up ideas and plays for Hill and Waddle and now

1063
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 9: adding Davon Hitchain. I don't think they added him for

1064
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 9: the running game, to ad him for what he can

1065
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 9: do in space and another option in the passing game.

1066
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 9: And the guys they resigned everybody, All four of their

1067
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 9: running backs were free agents heating into the offseason.

1068
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 10: They re signed all four of them.

1069
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 9: Most Wilson Achmed and Miles Gaskin, which tells you obviously

1070
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 9: there was a level of comfort there from head coach

1071
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 9: mc McDaniel about what he had A Chaine felt almost like,

1072
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 9: I hate to use the turn, but almost like a toy,

1073
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 9: like a gadget for mc McDaniel to play with on

1074
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 9: offense and create more things. But the offensive line, and

1075
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 9: the other thing about the running game is the yard

1076
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 9: with carry average was very good. I mean mos Sturt

1077
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 9: and Jeff Wilson were both in the high four point nines,

1078
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 9: if not higher. It's not low five. So that's really

1079
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 9: really good. But there were times when they couldn't produce

1080
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 9: in short yard situations. There were times when Mike McDaniel

1081
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 9: went away from the running game on third and one.

1082
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 9: They passed way too much on third and one, and

1083
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 9: their success rate wasn't necessarily that great. So for the

1084
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 9: running game, it's going to become an idea of sticking

1085
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 9: to it a little bit more. And remember Mike McDaniel

1086
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 9: came to the Dolphins from San Francisco with the reputation

1087
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 9: as a quote.

1088
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 10: Running game guru.

1089
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 9: Well, he got to Miami all of a sudden, the

1090
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 9: possibility of trading for Tyreek Bill happened, and all of

1091
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 9: a sudden, Mike McDaniel's like, oh, whoa time out here?

1092
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 10: Think of the things I can do.

1093
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 9: I mean, there's no no team's ever had a wide

1094
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 9: receiver tandem with that kind of speed.

1095
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 10: So it's difficult to.

1096
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 9: Blame him from veering more from the running game to

1097
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 9: the passing game. But I think they need a little

1098
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 9: bit better balance a running game passing game in twenty

1099
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 9: twenty three.

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00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: That's why I was surprised with the a chain pick

1101
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: because it struck me as a luxury pick in round

1102
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 1: three when you only had four picks to work with

1103
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: and you needed help. But offensive tackle like that one

1104
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: really baffled me.

1105
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 3: But I'll move on. I'm not gonna keep banging that drum.

1106
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: I know linebacker defensively was a position of concern, a

1107
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: lack of speed at that position. So they go out

1108
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: in free agency and they add David Long from Tennessee.

1109
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: How much of an upgrade would you call that at

1110
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: the linebacker position? Second level of the defense for Miami.

1111
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 9: For what they want to do with the Vanzo's defense,

1112
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 9: would calls on more coverage duties for the linebackers. It's

1113
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 9: a massive upgrade. Because the guy he replaces is Landon Roberts,

1114
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 9: who's a leader, who's a thumper, who's very good against

1115
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 9: the run, who actually had a very good year doing

1116
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 9: what he was asked to do last year, but who's

1117
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 9: not a coverage guy, who's a major liability coverage. But

1118
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 9: even with David Long Junior, the problem with him is,

1119
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 9: you look, he's got a history of I think it's

1120
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 9: hamstring issues. He missed twelve games combined the last two

1121
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 9: years and I think the last five two years ago,

1122
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 9: last seven last year, or vice versa, to the point

1123
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 9: where he was called out by Tennessee coach Mike Vrabel

1124
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 9: after the season expressing his frustration about certain guys on

1125
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 9: the team have to take better care of their bodies

1126
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 9: if he stays on the field. It's a massive, massive upgrade,

1127
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 9: and it does feel and feel a need that the

1128
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 9: Dolphins had for their defense, specifically for what Vic Fangil

1129
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 9: wants to do. Again, the question and that's the cloud

1130
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 9: And unfortunately for the Dolphins, it's a recurring theme at

1131
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 9: several key positions on the roster, starting with the quarterback.

1132
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 10: There's an injury cloude and I understand.

1133
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 9: That every team goes into a season where their fortunes

1134
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 9: ultimately could be determined by key injuries. Except it's not

1135
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 9: ideal to go to the season where you have a

1136
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 9: lot of guys at key positions who have that injury history.

1137
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 9: To to Ron Armstead, David Long Junior, I just mentioned

1138
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 9: Bradley Chubb, so that's a little bit concerning. But to

1139
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 9: answer your question in a long winded way, David Long Junior,

1140
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 9: if he stays on the field, there's a massive upgrade

1141
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 9: and sidelinebacker for the Dolphins.

1142
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned Vic Fangio just hired this offseason one

1143
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 2: of the best, one of the most respected defensive minds

1144
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 2: in the NFL. Has he said anything to give you

1145
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 2: any indication about what he thinks of the roster, what

1146
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 2: his plan is, What has been any rhetoric coming out

1147
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 2: of the defensive side of the coach's office.

1148
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 10: No, we hadn't gotten anything.

1149
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 9: We spoke to him not long after he was hired,

1150
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 9: and at that point he had he was in a

1151
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 9: wait and see mode in.

1152
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 10: Terms of evaluating the roster.

1153
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 9: Even in fact of he was telling us, I don't

1154
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 9: know yet exactly what I want to do with the

1155
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 9: defense because I have to see what those guys do best,

1156
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 9: and we haven't spoken to him since, so I'm gonna

1157
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 9: guess he probably sees the same things that we do.

1158
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 9: There's a lot of high in twent there high end

1159
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 9: potential with Jalen Ramsey who they got from the ram

1160
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 9: Xavien Howard, Jalen Phillips, Bradley Chubb, Christian Wilkins. So the

1161
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 9: expectations are very given vic Fango's credentials and the high

1162
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 9: end town. There are a lot of expectations for this

1163
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 9: defense to take a massive jump after it ranked I

1164
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 9: believe number is twenty third and total defense last year.

1165
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 3: How much different will it look?

1166
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: How much of a learning curve do you anticipate it

1167
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 1: will be for the players on that side of the

1168
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 1: ball from what they had ran previously under Boyer.

1169
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 10: I think they'll be fine.

1170
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 9: What you're gonna see as a big difference, I think

1171
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 9: it's pretty safe to say is two things. Number One

1172
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 9: is gonna be a lot less blitzing, which was a

1173
01:01:56,800 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 9: calling card of the Josh Boyer defense Brian Flores before that.

1174
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 10: And you're going to see less man.

1175
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 9: Coverage and more zone coverage and which very well could

1176
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 9: play into the strength. And they have the potential to

1177
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 9: have a really nasty secondary with Ramsey Howard and then

1178
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 9: Javon Holland, who has shown signs of being a future star,

1179
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 9: was kind of bogged down maybe last year about what

1180
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 9: was going on on defense around them, But the potential

1181
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 9: is there, So I think those are the two main

1182
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 9: differences are going to see let's let's sing in and

1183
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 9: see Moore zone coverage.

1184
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:31,919
Speaker 2: We also heard around the league, particularly in New York,

1185
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 2: with Quinn Williams wanting an extension. Christian Wilkins is also

1186
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 2: in Miami who is has played extremely well for the franchise.

1187
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 2: What is the latest on him and his situation with

1188
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 2: a new contract.

1189
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I kind of get the feeling in I was

1190
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 9: in the opinion early on and in the offseason that

1191
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 9: they're going to get something done. They need to mind you,

1192
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 9: he's under contract for twenty twenty three on this fifty

1193
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 9: year option at ten point seven mill in. The more

1194
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 9: more the offseason has gone on, the more I kind

1195
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 9: of leaned toward the Dolphins taking away and see approach,

1196
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 9: making sure he's a great fit for this defense, which

1197
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 9: kind of requires the defensive lineman to get get more

1198
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 9: of a push in the pass rush. And that's not

1199
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 9: necessarily what Christian Wilkins did. And the previous defense he

1200
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 9: was more asked, you know, with the running game, and

1201
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 9: he was great at him.

1202
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 10: I mean, he had a great year last year. He was

1203
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 10: very noticeable in a lot of games. But he's not

1204
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 10: a great pass rusher.

1205
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 9: And the only the other thing that doesn't help is

1206
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 9: exactly how much money is Wilkins via his agent, gonna want,

1207
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 9: And it's not helping anything that there are a lot

1208
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 9: of young, high end defensive tackles who have gotten big

1209
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 9: contracts this offseason, with Quinn Williams next in line. We're

1210
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 9: looking at Jeffrey Simmons, Dexter Lawrence, dron Payne who got paid,

1211
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 9: and all those guys are better pass rushers than Christian Wilkins.

1212
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 9: So I kind of get the feeling that maybe the

1213
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 9: Dolphins are going to want to sit tight for a

1214
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 9: little bit, see what happens before you know, they make

1215
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 9: a big push to get him resigned, or they could

1216
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 9: go into the next offseason try to get something done

1217
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 9: then and then they have the option of using the

1218
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 9: franchise tag.

1219
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 1: How do you see the receiver pecking order shaking out

1220
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 1: behind Waddle and Hill You've got Cedrick Wilson there. Now

1221
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 1: Braxton Barrios formerly known as Robbie Anderson chosen Anderson is there.

1222
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 1: And then you had two younger role players who were

1223
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 1: kind of making a name for themselves, more River Craycraft,

1224
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 1: more so than Eric Azuukanma. But those are two guys

1225
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 1: in the pipeline that I at least got the sense

1226
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 1: that they had hopes for And now I don't know

1227
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 1: if there's room for them.

1228
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 3: How does this pecking order work.

1229
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 10: That's a great question, that's a fabulous question. Yeah, there

1230
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 10: is no clear cut number three.

1231
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 9: And mind you that the guy who was the third

1232
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 9: option last year was Trent Sherfield. Well, you got signed

1233
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 9: in the offseason, and guess what he was in the

1234
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 9: third option at this time last year? It was gonna

1235
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 9: be Cedric Wilson. Cedrick Wilson actually was signed to be

1236
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 9: at number two last offseason when he came over from Dallas.

1237
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 9: But again, as with everything else with the offense, that

1238
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 9: was before the opportunity to get Tyreek Hill surfaced. Once

1239
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 9: the Dolphins got Tyreek Hill, well, Cedric Wilson became kind

1240
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 9: of a forgotten guy. Then he became involved in the

1241
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 9: battle for the number three spot, and Sherfield clearly outplayed him.

1242
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 9: And the only I'm gonna be honest with you, the

1243
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 9: only reason Cedric Wilson might have even might be on

1244
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 9: the rosters because he's guaranteed six million in twenty twenty three.

1245
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 9: I think in an ideal scenario, since the Dolphins are

1246
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 9: not cutting him and needing that money, he would emerge

1247
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 9: through the offseason and training camp as the third guy.

1248
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 9: But Braxon Barios is a very good slot receiver with

1249
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 9: some yak ability. Robbie Anderson chosen. Anderson Robbie Chosen gives

1250
01:05:56,480 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 9: another deep threat element to this offense where they can

1251
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 9: line him up outside and then use either a hill

1252
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 9: or waddle in the slot, as they did at times

1253
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 9: last year. My best guess at this point I think

1254
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 9: the four guys who probably figure to get the most

1255
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 9: snaps obviously he'll waddle in after the would be Burials

1256
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:18,479
Speaker 9: and Anderson Slash chosen. Eric Hazukama, as a guy fourth

1257
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 9: round pick from Texas Tech last year, looked really really

1258
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 9: good in camp and in the preseason, and then the

1259
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 9: regular season arrived and he was an active the entire

1260
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 9: year except for one game, and he was being passed

1261
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 9: by guys who were elevated from the practice squad to

1262
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 9: appearing games, including rookie free agent Braylan sanders So and

1263
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 9: the word from a wide receivers coach Wes Welker was

1264
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 9: an issue of learning everything every position at wide receiver

1265
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 9: in the offense. If he doesn't kind of take a

1266
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 9: big step in his second year and become something of

1267
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 9: a factor, that would be that would be very frustrating

1268
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 9: for the Dolphins and their coaches.

1269
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 2: I would imagine, Uh, let's talk a little bit before

1270
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 2: we let you go. And I just want to last

1271
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 2: question about the tight ends. Of course gets sick. He's

1272
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 2: not there anymore? Is it Durham smythe and a bunch

1273
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 2: of guys. I know they just signed Tyler Croft, who's

1274
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 2: got who maybe has the most chops of anybody else

1275
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 2: on the roster. Well, what do you think they're gonna

1276
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 2: do there?

1277
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 9: Well, I think it's gonna be Drham smit who's gonna

1278
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 9: get the most snaps. But I have made this statement

1279
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 9: before and I'm gonna stick. But I don't think there's

1280
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 9: a team in the NFL that needs major contributions from

1281
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 9: its tight ends less than the Dolphins because of all

1282
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 9: the speed they have everywhere, everywhere else. They don't need

1283
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 9: a tight end to catch seventy passes whatever. Durham Smith

1284
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 9: might wind up with thirty two catches for three hundred

1285
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 9: and seventy three yards and three touchdowns. And if he does,

1286
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 9: if he gets them clutch catch here and there to

1287
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 9: convert a third down or in the red zone and

1288
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 9: does a job blocking, you know that even better. But

1289
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 9: it's nervos might is gonna get the most opportunities. You're

1290
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 9: gonna see a little bit of Eric Sauberd, who they

1291
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 9: signed as a free agent from Denver Tayler Croft. Perhaps

1292
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 9: they drafted Elijah Higgins, who was a wide receiver at Stanford,

1293
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 9: with the idea of converting him to a tight end.

1294
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 10: I can't.

1295
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 9: I'm not expecting major contributions from him as a rookie.

1296
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 9: But again, to me, the tight end is not a

1297
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 9: major factor in this offense.

1298
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 1: Do you think, even with you know, the San fran

1299
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 1: run scheme, that the Dolphins this year, with all that

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Speaker 1: speed of receiver that you referenced, could lean a little

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Speaker 1: more heavily towards ten personnel this year. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying that's going to be their number one personnel grouping.

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01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 1: But could you see them drifting in that direction a

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01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 1: little bit more? Or does the San fran run game

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01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 1: principles predigate predicate putting a tight end on the field

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Speaker 1: most of the time.

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Speaker 10: Possibly.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I I have a heart time. Here's the

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01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 9: thing is, And especially had the Dolphins not drafted a Chain,

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Speaker 9: I think I'd have been I might have been more

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Speaker 9: inclined to believe that there would be more of a

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Speaker 9: focus toward the running game. I think once you draft him,

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01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 9: it almost tells me that Mike McDaniel is going to

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Speaker 9: just come up with even more more permutations for the

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Speaker 9: passing game.

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Speaker 10: With a with another toy.

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Speaker 9: I mean, the things he can do on of he

1318
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Speaker 9: can have Hillwadle Raheem Moster who's like crazy fast, and

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Speaker 9: a chain on the field at the same time, and

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Speaker 9: you know, have Tour get rid of the ball very

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Speaker 9: very quickly, and you know, and then they can create create.

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Speaker 10: All sorts of habit for defenses.

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Speaker 2: So so you think you think they use more running backs.

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Speaker 2: Do you think the drafting of a Chain really says

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Speaker 2: more about their passing game than it does about their

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Speaker 2: running game? Even though he's a running back.

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Speaker 9: I do, because yeah, as you mentioned before that that

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Speaker 9: was a luxury pick.

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Speaker 10: I mean.

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Speaker 9: And then the word part too is they're like rumblings

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01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 9: all over the place of Dalvin Cook. What happens if

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Speaker 9: he gets released by the Vikings. I mean, he's from Miami.

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Speaker 9: The Dolphins is going to go get him. And at

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Speaker 9: some point it's like, Okay, how many different running backs

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Speaker 9: do you need, especially when you don't feature the running backs?

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Speaker 9: And I don't know that my gut feeling is that again,

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01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 9: Mike McDaniel realizes he's got such a unique setup on

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Speaker 9: offense with those two guys outside, and for what the

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Speaker 9: first eleven games of the season, defensive defenses had no

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01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 9: clue how to stop. How often did we see Hill

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01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 9: and Waddle running wide open fifteen twenty yards down the

1342
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Speaker 9: middle of the field, I mean wide open because defenses

1343
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 9: were so scared of that speed and they haven't gotten

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Speaker 9: any slower. So I still would expect it to be

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Speaker 9: a very past oriented offense.

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Speaker 1: Alan, thanks as always, we appreciate you bringing us up

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01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 1: to speed. Will catch up with you probably before the season,

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01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 1: So enjoy your summer, ma man, All right, take care.

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01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 10: So Nounds good to be looking forward to it, all right.

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Speaker 1: That's Alan Poopar, NFL Dolphins writer for Sports Illustrated, joining us.

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Speaker 1: That's an interesting discussion to have. It's almost as if

1352
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 1: Steve Mike McDaniel and their GM Chris Greer said the

1353
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 1: best pass protect the best way to offer pass protection

1354
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 1: to Tua is to give him another weapon to get

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01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:34,719
Speaker 1: the ball out of his hand. It's almost like devon

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01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:37,640
Speaker 1: a chain is going to be pass protection in the

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01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:41,759
Speaker 1: form of getting opened immediately and so it can throw.

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Speaker 2: It and you look. You transpose what the Dolphins are

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Speaker 2: doing into what the Bills are doing, into what the

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01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 2: Chiefs have done, into what the even the Cincinnati Bengals,

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01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 2: to a certain extent, have started to do. We talk

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01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:58,919
Speaker 2: about it on the defensive side all the time, positionless football.

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01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 2: They want to get running backs who can play wide receiver.

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01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 2: The Bills want to get tight ends who can play

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Speaker 2: wide receiver or catch like a wide receiver. And you

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01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 2: want wide receivers who can line up anywhere and run

1367
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 2: after catching, who are big bodied kind of but fast. Right,

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01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 2: you want to get speed. So it's it's a point

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01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 2: where you want to get the best pass catching route

1370
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 2: running guys who have the biggest variety of skill sets

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Speaker 2: on the field and then line them up wherever you want.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's trying to do that. The Dolphins are doing it

1373
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 2: like drafting a running back on top of the speed

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Speaker 2: running backs they already have. The Bills are doing it

1375
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 2: by getting a tight end who can run routes like

1376
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 2: a wide out. Patriots did the same thing. They got

1377
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 2: Gutsicki from Miami. He's a guy that can run routes

1378
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 2: like a wide out, but he's a big body, six '

1379
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Speaker 2: five guy. The Bills are drafting Shorter, who's a six

1380
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Speaker 2: or four. I was watching him today. The guy looks

1381
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 2: like a stallion out there. He's huge, big knee bend,

1382
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 2: knee lift, it's unbelievable. So everybody's trying to get to

1383
01:12:59,880 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 2: the point where they can throw out there ten twelve, thirteen,

1384
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 2: eleven personnel. But it's all the same offense, and whichever

1385
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 2: guy gets a matchup that you can exploit, that's where

1386
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:15,640
Speaker 2: you go to and it becomes an individual game in

1387
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:17,879
Speaker 2: the context of the positionless football.

1388
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and when you think about the speed too, just

1389
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 1: envision this for a second. They line up Tyreek for

1390
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 1: a jet sweep off the snap and then they got

1391
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 1: a chain on the other side of the formation and

1392
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:34,639
Speaker 1: they reverse it. Like as soon as you see Tyreek going,

1393
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:36,520
Speaker 1: you're automatically cheating.

1394
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 3: To that side. You're trying to defender because of that speed.

1395
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 1: You're trying to make sure you have an angle, and

1396
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden the ball is going the

1397
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:44,520
Speaker 1: other way with a guy running.

1398
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:46,639
Speaker 2: A four to three too, that's fast as well. Yeah,

1399
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 2: you're right, that's that's a problem. It's it is a

1400
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 2: real problem.

1401
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 1: And that's just at the line of scrimmage. Forget about

1402
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 1: down the field.

1403
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 2: Right, forget about the corners of the end zone when

1404
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 2: you're sixty you know, you're sixty yards away. That's that's

1405
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 2: what you're trying to do as an offense. And the Dolphins,

1406
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:04,680
Speaker 2: you know, becomes obvious what they're you know, what they're

1407
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 2: gonna try.

1408
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 3: And use it so want to turn it into a track.

1409
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 2: They want to try and leverage their roster in making

1410
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 2: it something you can't keep up with.

1411
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 3: I still worry about the protection though.

1412
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 1: I Mean, all I hear in my head is Coach

1413
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 1: McDermott saying it starts up front. It starts up front,

1414
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:20,879
Speaker 1: and they have not done enough upfront in my estimation.

1415
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 1: They look they tried to fortify it with veterans.

1416
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 3: You know, they get Dan Feenie from the Jets. They

1417
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 3: got some Isaiah Win.

1418
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:34,599
Speaker 1: Like Dan Feenie's a backup in this league. Isaiah Win

1419
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 1: has been a colossal disappointment as a first round draft choice.

1420
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 3: I mean, he was so bad.

1421
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 1: He was on the bench for guys that were like

1422
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 1: six round picks. Marcus Cannon was starting over him in

1423
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 1: New England at right tackle, and then they brought Trent

1424
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 1: Brown back to play left tackle. They were so disappointed

1425
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 1: in Isaiah Win. And then they tried him a guard

1426
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 1: and that didn't work either, and they finally threw him overboard.

1427
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 1: They gave up on a first round pick after four years,

1428
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:00,879
Speaker 1: and now Miami's gonna pick him up as veteran insurance

1429
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 1: behind Austin Jackson in case he's not the guy either.

1430
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 1: So you might replace one first round disappointment with another.

1431
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 2: I mean, they've got they've got guys, and they're they're

1432
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:12,599
Speaker 2: like they're like the Bills a little bit. They they're

1433
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 2: grabbing a whole ton of guys.

1434
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:15,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, veterans on one year deal.

1435
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 2: They got six seven eight guys listed on their roster

1436
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 2: right now.

1437
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 3: I just thought it was a luxury pick. And I

1438
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 3: see it.

1439
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,040
Speaker 1: I see the logic in a chain. Add more speed

1440
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:29,640
Speaker 1: on the field, more dimensions to your off but you

1441
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:31,600
Speaker 1: gotta have guys that are gonna allow to it, to

1442
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 1: hold on to the ball for at least a couple

1443
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:33,719
Speaker 1: of seconds.

1444
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 2: What we said, everybody faces this third and twenty at

1445
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 2: some point.

1446
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:43,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm telling you, man, and look, doesn't bother me.

1447
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 1: That's that's not the team I'm rooting for, you know

1448
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 1: what I mean. Yeah, So, but don't come crying to

1449
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 1: me when two is out in week six for a month,

1450
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 1: because that that train's coming.

1451
01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 3: I'm telling you it's coming.

1452
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 1: He there is no way with this offensive line and

1453
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel's genius brain that they're gonna be able to

1454
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 1: avoid injury with that guy.

1455
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:09,560
Speaker 2: There's been some stuff going around as well. You know

1456
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 2: our boy Dan Orlovsky, Phil Simms or Chris Simms, guys

1457
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 2: talking about breaking down Miami's philosophy. Offensively, what happens is

1458
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:27,440
Speaker 2: on play action stuff and this is you know, McDaniel.

1459
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 2: They leave some guys on the back side unblocked, knowing

1460
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:35,680
Speaker 2: that the influence of the play action is gonna keep

1461
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 2: him from getting a free shot on Tua. That's a

1462
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 2: risky business and the ball has to come out. That's right,

1463
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 2: And that was their point as well. It's it's sound

1464
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 2: to a point until they've seen it too many times

1465
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 2: on film or in the game itself, and you go

1466
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:56,680
Speaker 2: to it one too many times and your you know,

1467
01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:59,559
Speaker 2: your quarterback is a is a puddle.

1468
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 1: That's why I'm just I was really surprised they didn't

1469
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 1: address offensive line.

1470
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 3: In the draft.

1471
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 1: They had four picks, okay, four maybe maybe you know,

1472
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 1: the value doesn't line up in round two, you take

1473
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 1: the corner five, you know, Okay, come around to round three,

1474
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, it's time now, like you gotta do

1475
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 1: something right. And they did nothing at the tackle position.

1476
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 2: So yeah, the Bills, I'm not saying anything about anything

1477
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 2: is I don't know anything, but I'm saying what I see.

1478
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 2: Bills always draft big dudes with traits Osiris Torrance.

1479
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 3: Rousseau, Devan A Chain's got trades. He's just not big.

1480
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 2: Well he has one trait. Yeah he's fast, But the

1481
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 2: Bills draft big dudes high in the draft. You know,

1482
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 2: Spencer Brown Tommy Sweeney, Dawson Knox was a big dude

1483
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 2: with some traits. You go down the list. I mean,

1484
01:17:57,479 --> 01:18:06,679
Speaker 2: that's Rousseau, Epanessa. Bash them. They're dudes that you can measure.

1485
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:09,879
Speaker 2: At Oliver is the only except at Oliver is the exception.

1486
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 2: And even that, And now that may reinforce my point

1487
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 2: in drafts going forward, because they did not. You know,

1488
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 2: they're not standing in line to extend at Oliver at

1489
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 2: least not yet. So I'm they some teams do and

1490
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 2: some teams don't. The Bills have always grabbed guys that

1491
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 2: you can't find standing on a street corner. See, you

1492
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 2: got guys like me and you, Brownie were They're five

1493
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 2: to nine guys everywhere. There are five eight, one hundred

1494
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 2: and eighty eight pound athletes everywhere in every sport. You

1495
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 2: don't find six five three point thirty guys any playing tennis.

1496
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:56,680
Speaker 1: That's a great image, you know, I get it, all right,

1497
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 1: We got to take a break here.

1498
01:18:58,280 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 3: We'll get to the tweets sheet.

1499
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 1: When we were what do you think heightens the Bills

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01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 1: Dolphins rivalry going forward? You can let us know on

1501
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 1: the phones at eight oh three oh five fifty. But

1502
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna crack open the tweet sheeet next here on

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01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 1: one Bill's Live, Stay tuned. Okay, back here on one

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01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 1: Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and we are.

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01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:31,679
Speaker 3: Gonna hit the tweet sheets.

1506
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 1: Steve, it's time to hit it. I haven't gotten there yet.

1507
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 1: What would heighten the Bills Dolphins rivalry this season? Tweet

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Speaker 3: And we lead off with some guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's his Twitter handle, says both teams staying one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent healthy, having normal acceptable weather, going one in

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01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 1: one and then playing a third time in the playoffs.

1514
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 2: That's what happened last year except for the weather. Yeah,

1515
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 2: that's you're right. That's playing in the playoffs with a

1516
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 2: division opponent. Heats it up quick. Big games make rivalries.

1517
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 2: Think about whether it should be less Think about the

1518
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 2: Bills and the Chiefs.

1519
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, weather should be less of an issue this year

1520
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 1: because Dolphins are up here early, Bills are down there late,

1521
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:30,679
Speaker 1: so weather should not be later eighteen Yeah, as late.

1522
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 3: As you can get.

1523
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 1: Travis on the tweets sheet says already happened Alan versus

1524
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:39,560
Speaker 1: Ramsey now in a Dolphins uniform. Yeah, that that acquisition

1525
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:42,120
Speaker 1: by the Dolphins is not lost on Bills fans. They

1526
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 1: don't forget. They got memories of elephants. They don't forget

1527
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 1: what people say. Man Chase says Dalvin Cook to the Dolphins. Now,

1528
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 1: we just had Alan Poopar on the Dolphins b reporter

1529
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:58,559
Speaker 1: for SI and he was saying, there is talk down

1530
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 1: there that if Dalvin Hook is released by the Vikings

1531
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 1: as a cap casualty, that the Dolphins could be interested.

1532
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 1: I want to where they're getting the money from. Like,

1533
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 1: they didn't have a lot of money under the cap

1534
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:10,599
Speaker 1: to begin with. They're gonna have to start lopping people

1535
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 1: off if they're gonna sign.

1536
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 3: That guy, Yeah, he could, But then the.

1537
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:18,800
Speaker 1: Cook versus Cook, brother versus brother thing.

1538
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:24,160
Speaker 2: You could lop Mostert and a couple Jeff Wilson, Jeff

1539
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 2: Wilson off the roster and keep Dalvin. Dalvin replaces two

1540
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 2: and a half, two and a half of those guys,

1541
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 2: I would think.

1542
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:33,839
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1543
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:37,880
Speaker 1: Garvey on the tweets sheet says Trent Sherfield having a

1544
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:40,760
Speaker 1: breakout game against his former team, I have to think

1545
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:43,599
Speaker 1: Allan will be targeting him in that first game. More

1546
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 1: Alan Wilkins banter too. Let's not forget that.

1547
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:47,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's not forget that little a.

1548
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 1: Little brew haha at the bottom of the pile.

1549
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 2: That little lover's quarrel too. When Josh threw the one,

1550
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:56,679
Speaker 2: the tipped interception, and and each other.

1551
01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 3: I love it.

1552
01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 1: Mitspencer Brown came, the cavalry showed up. I'll never forget.

1553
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:07,839
Speaker 1: Mitch Morris's wife tweeted it after that happened. She tweeted

1554
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:10,920
Speaker 1: the footage of right, she goes, I would hope he

1555
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:13,800
Speaker 1: would come to my defense in a similar situation, right

1556
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 1: in this fashion.

1557
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 3: This fashi was a great tweet by missus Morris. It

1558
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 3: was great. I laughed out loud what I saw? Uh

1559
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 3: from Caposi?

1560
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 1: Uh he says, or she says, if they put hot

1561
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:30,559
Speaker 1: coals on the visitors side of the field in Miami, Yeah.

1562
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 2: We know what that's in reference to it.

1563
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 3: That was ridiculous last year. I'm sorry.

1564
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 1: Mike on the tweet sheet says Dolphins have the second

1565
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:43,800
Speaker 1: most difficult schedule. They could easily be zero and three

1566
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 1: coming to Buffalo in week four, battling for the number

1567
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:51,320
Speaker 1: one seed. In Week eighteen, would catapult this rivalry into

1568
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:52,480
Speaker 1: the stratosphere.

1569
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:53,160
Speaker 2: Good word.

1570
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 1: Hopefully our Bills will have it locked up by then,

1571
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 1: making that game all but moot.

1572
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 3: Yeah it is.

1573
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 1: It's tough schedule for the entire division this year, but

1574
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 1: the way it lines up for Miami at the front, who.

1575
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:09,200
Speaker 3: That's tough.

1576
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is tough. It is tough Miami. We'll just

1577
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 2: I'll just say it again. The first month of the

1578
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 2: season for the Miami Dolphins. There you have it. Chargers Patriots.

1579
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 3: Those are both on the road, by the way.

1580
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 2: Chargers Broncos and Bills. Chargers Patriots, Broncos and Bills. For

1581
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 2: the Dolphins, it's two roadies early, Chargers off Week one.

1582
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:35,719
Speaker 2: When they're healthy with that roster, they're gonna that's gonna

1583
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:42,520
Speaker 2: be a dogfights. Patriots are always problems, particularly in Foxborough,

1584
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:45,320
Speaker 2: but they have maybe we'll see.

1585
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:47,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they have these spurts of tough games, like

1586
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 1: you know, you got at Eagles home against the Patriots,

1587
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 1: all right, you should win that at Chiefs, you know,

1588
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 1: and then later on look at their last four games,

1589
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:04,599
Speaker 1: Jets home against the Cowboys, at the Ravens home against

1590
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 1: the Bills. That is a tough way to close, like

1591
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 1: if they don't home, if they haven't afforded themselves a

1592
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 1: margin for error coming down the stretch there, like if

1593
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:18,760
Speaker 1: they're if they're six and six, and then to the

1594
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:20,839
Speaker 1: last five games, having.

1595
01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 2: The Bills Chargers in the first four games both on

1596
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 2: the road, yeah, three their first four on the road.

1597
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:31,599
Speaker 1: That's rough three of their last four or at home.

1598
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 1: But they're against really tough competition.

1599
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 2: Right, so's we'll see they could be I doubt that that.

1600
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:40,960
Speaker 2: I do not think they will be ohero and three

1601
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:43,679
Speaker 2: coming into Buffalo in Week four, but they could.

1602
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:49,799
Speaker 1: Bill's News consolidated says m VP chatter between Josh and Tua.

1603
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, think about that, because.

1604
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 1: Here's that would really that would really that would basically

1605
01:24:57,280 --> 01:25:04,479
Speaker 1: be a reprise of Marino Kelly in some way they

1606
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 1: think about high profile quarterbacks.

1607
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 2: We know how the teammates feel about Josh. I mean,

1608
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:12,600
Speaker 2: they're all they love them. They take a bullet for

1609
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 2: the guy. I mean they just love him to the

1610
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 2: same thing down there. And to have those two at

1611
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 2: the top of the MVP chatter going into week eighteen

1612
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 2: and the teams would be really trying to get it

1613
01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 2: for their guy, right, Yeah, that would heat it up. Yeah,

1614
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 2: and fans would be absolutely frothing at the mouth.

1615
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 3: Joel.

1616
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 1: On the tweet, she says live dolphin fights a live

1617
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:44,640
Speaker 1: buffalo parentheses bison at the fifty yard line before the

1618
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 1: national anthem. A fair depth of water would of course

1619
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:50,679
Speaker 1: need to be agreed upon before the contestants were set

1620
01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 1: on one another. I'm thinking two to two and a

1621
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 1: half feet of water is fair. How did they get

1622
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 1: on the tweet sh somehow we've turned this rivalry into

1623
01:25:59,200 --> 01:25:59,719
Speaker 1: a circuit.

1624
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 3: What are we were doing out there, guys? Joel? That's

1625
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:06,799
Speaker 3: your head on straight? Although that's very entertaining.

1626
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:08,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I enjoyed that. There's the last one is the

1627
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:12,879
Speaker 2: one I read from Darryl. Yeah, nothing I have currently

1628
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:15,960
Speaker 2: do and will hate them with as much victory, all

1629
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 2: and passion as humanly possible till the day that I

1630
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 2: leave this glorious earth.

1631
01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 1: There are people out there, the vitriol is thick. We

1632
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:26,000
Speaker 1: have to take a break here, but when we come back.

1633
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:29,120
Speaker 1: A final thought on the tweet sheet, is there a

1634
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:34,440
Speaker 1: potentially new villain besides Jalen Ramsey that could ignite this rivalry.

1635
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:37,840
Speaker 1: We'll pose that question next here on One Bill's Live,

1636
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 1: presented by Colida Health.

1637
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 3: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1638
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 10: All right.

1639
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:56,600
Speaker 1: Some final thoughts on the tweet sheet about heightening the

1640
01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 1: Bills Dolphins rivalry, which took a noticeable step up last Sea.

1641
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 1: Evan wants to create a new villain in the rivalry.

1642
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 1: So his suggestion is Tyreek Hill flipping off Bill's mafia

1643
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:13,519
Speaker 1: like Brian Cox did back in the nineties. I mean

1644
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people, including myself, don't like the guy,

1645
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 1: so it'll just add fuel to the fire. There is

1646
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:20,960
Speaker 1: a history there, obviously from his time with the Chiefs,

1647
01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 1: given deuces to the Bills on his way into the

1648
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:24,400
Speaker 1: end zone.

1649
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 3: Let's not forget that.

1650
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 1: Now he's on the Dolphins, and yeah, if he did

1651
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 1: something like that, that would that would juice it up.

1652
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:33,559
Speaker 3: A little bit.

1653
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:37,240
Speaker 2: Let's not forget that Brian Cox was. I mean, that

1654
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 2: guy was a you want to talk about heating up

1655
01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 2: a rivalry, That guy was a blowtorch.

1656
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 3: Yeah he was.

1657
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:47,639
Speaker 2: I have gotten to know him since our time playing.

1658
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 2: I played with him in the Pro Bowl as well,

1659
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 2: and certainly as most you would realize, it was much

1660
01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:54,719
Speaker 2: better have him on your team than against your team.

1661
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:57,720
Speaker 2: And I've told him this, and it's the truth of

1662
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 2: all the guys on those Miami Dolphin teams we play

1663
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:05,240
Speaker 2: over the years, Dan Marino, John Offerdal, all those guys

1664
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 2: that were there back in the day. Almost to a man,

1665
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 2: our entire team would have said, the only guy we

1666
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 2: would really like on your team on our team would

1667
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:18,599
Speaker 2: be Brian Cox. He was he was one of a kind.

1668
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:21,479
Speaker 2: But that guy, I mean you could when he's doing

1669
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:23,559
Speaker 2: the Dolphins players would tell you he's doing all that

1670
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 2: stuff that we're like going, oh, geez, we we really

1671
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:28,720
Speaker 2: got to buckle it up. Now, you know we.

1672
01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 3: Got we got geez do it.

1673
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's like kicking the ant hill over and then

1674
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:36,920
Speaker 2: knowing you got to be the next guy that lays

1675
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 2: down on it. Right. So that's what those guys he

1676
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:43,760
Speaker 2: he was a hit. Those guys make a difference. We've

1677
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:45,760
Speaker 2: talked about having guys on your team with some grit

1678
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 2: that want to be the point of the spear for

1679
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 2: your team. Those guys heat up rivalries, and he.

1680
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:54,360
Speaker 1: Was like, bring it on, baby, take all comers, even

1681
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:58,559
Speaker 1: if they're in the stands, because that adds some legs.

1682
01:28:58,600 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 3: For a while.

1683
01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:01,360
Speaker 2: Oh man, Well he was getting thrown out of a

1684
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 2: game every other week, right, you know. Oh what that

1685
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 2: would juice it up? That would juice is always good

1686
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:10,400
Speaker 2: to do.

1687
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 3: That for any rivalry. All right.

1688
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:15,840
Speaker 1: We appreciate the responses today on juicing this thing up,

1689
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:20,000
Speaker 1: and obviously competitive games will help come the regular season.

1690
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 1: Steve is out tomorrow. He's got some charity golf to

1691
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:26,680
Speaker 1: take care of. We'll have Maddie in here with me,

1692
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:34,600
Speaker 1: so we'll see you at on Friday at one pm.