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Speaker 1: Countdown to Kickoff continues. The Ravens and the Jaguars on

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Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football in week fifteen, joining us now it's

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Speaker 1: from NBC Sports Football Night in America. Analyst Devin mccordy.

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Speaker 1: Great to talk with you. The Jaguars have not been

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Speaker 1: on Sunday Night Football and NBC since your junior year

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Speaker 1: at Rutgers. It's been a long time. How are you.

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Speaker 2: I did not know that, and maybe that won't hit

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Speaker 2: for everybody, but I'm thirty six years old, so my

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Speaker 2: junior year at Rutgers was a while ago.

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Speaker 1: Two thousand and eight. It's been a minute. And of

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Speaker 1: course you're a three time Super Bowl champion with the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: former safety and you had six tackles in the AFC

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Speaker 1: Championship Game against the Jaguars after the twenty seventeen season.

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Speaker 1: Miles Jack is still not down, by the way, Devin,

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Speaker 1: I just had to get that in there.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I understand to get that close and probably have

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Speaker 2: nightmares about that Fumber recovery and just nightmares about Tom Brady.

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Speaker 2: But the good thing is you're not alone on those

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Speaker 2: Tom Brady nightmares.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they go through out the NFL, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to this matchup, Devin. I mean this Ravens

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Speaker 1: Jaguars matchup, battle of first place teams in the AFC

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Speaker 1: playoff race. It's seemingly wide open. Especially if the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: can get this done against Baltimore, then everything's out in

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Speaker 1: the open for anybody in the AFC, including the number

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Speaker 1: one seed. It feels like, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, how fun is this. We've had so many years

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Speaker 2: at football where it was kind of like this one

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Speaker 2: team was here, whether it was New England through the years,

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Speaker 2: whether it was Kansas City, Baltimore's been there, but it

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Speaker 2: always felt like it hit some point in the season

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Speaker 2: where it was like, all right, that team's gonna probably

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Speaker 2: be the one seed. Now let's figure everything out. And

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Speaker 2: you know, on both sides AC and NFC, there's no

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Speaker 2: clear cut. And I think for Jacksonville, now you're getting

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Speaker 2: the team that I would say is the favorite to

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Speaker 2: go out and get the one seed. They have some

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Speaker 2: tough games ahead of them, starting with Jacksonville, but you're

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Speaker 2: going there and you get them at home, and you

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Speaker 2: have a chance to now knock them off. You don't

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Speaker 2: only knock them off and move yourself up. You send

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Speaker 2: a message to the rest of the NFL that, hey,

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Speaker 2: we're here. I know we're coming off a two game skid,

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Speaker 2: but we're figuring things out. We lost one of our

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Speaker 2: top players and Kristen Kirk. We found the answer what

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Speaker 2: we want to do moving forward, and we're gonna do it.

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Speaker 2: And I think that would be pretty cool to see,

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Speaker 2: you know, obviously for Jacksonville. I mean I tweeted out

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Speaker 2: or I said on our post game show one time,

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Speaker 2: what home field vangs really matter for Jacksonville? Got posts

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Speaker 2: on Twitter, the du Ball fan base, I mean, they

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Speaker 2: crushed me. I got videos of last year's playoff game.

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Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? I had to back it. I

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Speaker 2: had to back it up. I apologize. I said, let

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Speaker 2: me pull this back du Ball. I didn't know it

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Speaker 2: was like that. I played a long time ago and

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Speaker 2: But it seems like they're really here, and I think

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Speaker 2: this team can really pull that energy out by going

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he sounds like you got an earful That happens

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Speaker 1: from time to time around here with this fan base.

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Speaker 1: Devin mccordy with us from NBC Sports. How about the

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Speaker 1: toughness of Trevor Lawrence. You know, two different times this

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Speaker 1: season he's come on short weeks with injuries and played.

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Speaker 1: He had the knee injury before the Thursday night game

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Speaker 1: didn't necessarily played great. He through three interceptions and there

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Speaker 1: were some miscommunications, but the fact that your quarterback is

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Speaker 1: out there got to get out in games that matter

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Speaker 1: in December. That has to go through the entire locker room.

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Speaker 2: I mean Monday night, I was like, dang, stinks Jackson

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Speaker 2: goes through. But I'm watching the game and the way

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Speaker 2: he got hit on the ankle was bad. But then

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Speaker 2: Was like, I'm my and that's like, that's really rough

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Speaker 2: him in pregame. We're all in the screening room watching

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Speaker 2: and Chris Simms comes in. I go, did you see

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence how he was moving. I was like, he's fine,

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Speaker 2: You know, I played a long time with Brady who

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Speaker 2: I mean, you talk about the AFC Championship game. You know,

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Speaker 2: for us at practice because he's running into the locker room.

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Speaker 2: The trainer's holding his hand. We're like our season's over.

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Speaker 2: The guy comes back on Friday, he throws like five

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Speaker 2: at Bill and he's like, I'm fine, And you could

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Speaker 2: There was no doubt because we knew his toughness through

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a big question around here. Certainly, Zay Jones

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Speaker 2: Like I watched the Cincinnati game and the first two drives,

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Speaker 2: That isn't always easy to do after you build something

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Speaker 1: Ravens Jaguars on Sunday Night Football this week, and the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars defense has really prided itself on stopping the run

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Speaker 1: did that again last week. They're tied for first in

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Speaker 2: I mean it is like you can't say that it's not.

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Speaker 2: so when they did come or they did do different things,

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Speaker 2: And in some of the plays like the first and

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Speaker 2: it looks like everybody's down there. They matched up Cleveland's

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Speaker 2: So I think they definitely need to decide, all right,

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Speaker 2: Baltimore is a team. We're similar to Jacksonville. They have

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Speaker 2: back there at quarterback. They need to know exactly how

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Speaker 2: we plan to attack, what our main calls that we

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Speaker 2: want to do, and let's master those. Let's not worry

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Speaker 2: about maybe having twenty plays that we're gonna run, twenty

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Speaker 2: different defenses that we're gonna run on first and second death.

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Speaker 2: Let's just have our core group see how that goes.

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Speaker 2: If it doesn't go well, we can always get to

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Speaker 2: some things that we think will be better. But I

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Speaker 2: think maybe, you know, slimming it down a little bit

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Speaker 2: bullseye like play call sheet of like this is what's

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Speaker 2: that I think might help them.

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Speaker 1: Sunday Night, Devin mccordy with us final thought here in

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Speaker 1: mentioning Lamar new play callers this year in Baltimore. How

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Speaker 1: different is Lamar's game overall this year than in the past,

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Speaker 1: and obviously still effective on both ways running and throwing

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Speaker 1: the football.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the early Parti's career. I think he

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Speaker 2: he can't do that, and it was kind of like, well,

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Speaker 2: we don't know, like it's not his decision to be

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Speaker 2: in here and running these different plays and having an

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Speaker 2: offensive line that was kind of built and I don't

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Speaker 2: but it was kind of built like these road grading

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Speaker 2: offensive linemen who could fire off the ball. They could

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Speaker 2: do all that, but anytime they got behind, like their

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Speaker 2: strength as an offensive line wasn't dropping back and pass

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Speaker 2: So because of that, they had a lot of all

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Speaker 2: you know, three step drops like quick slamts, quick outs,

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Speaker 2: all very basic. And I was always saying that to people, like,

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Speaker 2: we don't know if Lamar Jackson can be a guy

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Speaker 2: and we're finding out this year he can do that,

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Speaker 2: and he can do that, and then when all that,

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Speaker 2: when all else fails, like you turn on the rams

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Speaker 2: game it's it was raining, the field conditions were poor,

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Speaker 2: not for number eight. He was running, cutting, juking, making plays.

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Speaker 2: So he's the guy that he's always been. You don't

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Speaker 2: really want to you don't really want to play against him.

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Speaker 2: As a defense. It's very similar to when I was

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Speaker 2: whatever you want about what he couldn't do when this,

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Speaker 2: stop a guy like him, because yes, he wasn't Payton Man,

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Speaker 2: and he wasn't Tom Brady and Drew Grees, but he

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Speaker 2: was a tank and when he ran, you were like, man,

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Speaker 2: how are we gonna get this guy down? And Lamar

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Speaker 2: Jackson was a guy. When he runs, You're like, how

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Speaker 2: are we gonna get a hand on him? And then

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Speaker 2: like the last play that he has a Flowers on

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Speaker 2: Flowers just like that, the ball flings from his wrist

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Speaker 2: like in his hand and it's going as a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Like that's so hard to stop. So hey, Jacksonville defense,

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Speaker 2: I'm happy I don't have to do that anymore, and

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Speaker 2: good luck going out there Sunday night.

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Speaker 1: We got that going for us, which is nice, Devin,

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Speaker 1: great stuff as always, great career of course in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and off to a fantastic start as an analyst. Appreciate

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Speaker 1: the time, Devin, awesome, No problem, man,