WEBVTT - Forbidden Door PPV

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition

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<v Speaker 1>of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get it all. How's it going, everybody? Brian Alvarez

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<v Speaker 1>here on Wrestling Observe Live. We are here every day

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<v Speaker 1>Monday through Friday, New Pacific, three Eastern, Sunday three Pacific,

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<v Speaker 1>sixth Eastern. Well, it's Thursday on this program, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know what that means. Last night a w Dynamite, the

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<v Speaker 1>go home Dynamite for the Forbidden Door pay per view,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have got a rampage show coming up on Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>But I believe that all of the matches for Forbidden

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<v Speaker 1>Door are known as of today. So that's pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>the main thing to talk about here today, Dynamite and

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<v Speaker 1>Forbidden Doors. So we'll do that. What's the think of

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<v Speaker 1>the show? You're welcome to contact us for five seven

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<v Speaker 1>eight zero seven five six. They added four matches to

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<v Speaker 1>the show last night, and so at this point we've

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<v Speaker 1>got quite a few matches on this pay per view.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the two big stories were Brian Danielson announcing

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<v Speaker 1>that he is not on the show, nor is he

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<v Speaker 1>on the Blood and Cuts show, and in fact, Will Osprey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, well, Will Osprey is on the show as well,

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<v Speaker 1>but because it's Golconda showed up and it will be

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<v Speaker 1>a four way for the i W d g P

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<v Speaker 1>World Heavyweight Championship, J White, Hangman Page, Adam Cole and

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<v Speaker 1>Okada for the title. Those are the two biggest stories,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say coming out of the show last night,

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<v Speaker 1>so we can talk about that, as well as notes

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<v Speaker 1>on the n x T two point oh ratings which

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<v Speaker 1>were huge. It's interesting because Dynamite last week didn't do

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<v Speaker 1>well and Rampage did horribly, but SmackDown Raw and n

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<v Speaker 1>x T all huge numbers and we can talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that here today. Plus an update on Rhea Ripley, who

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<v Speaker 1>has gone public with the issues that are keeping her

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<v Speaker 1>out of the pay per view. We can tell you

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<v Speaker 1>about that. Uh And also on the subject of a

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<v Speaker 1>W injuries, you can add sky Blue to the list.

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<v Speaker 1>She is injured, Kyle O'Reilly is injured, Red Velvet is injured.

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<v Speaker 1>There have never been this many injuries at one time

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<v Speaker 1>at a W. Back in the mout and talk about

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<v Speaker 1>all of it Observer Live on the show Bright Albarez

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<v Speaker 1>here Wrestling Observer Live Mike sumbur Viv also Wrestling Observer

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. If you're watching the Twitch video right now,

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<v Speaker 1>you just saw Denise. I will be on Denise's show

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<v Speaker 1>one ten Pacific for ten Eastern today. We'll be doing

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<v Speaker 1>a preview of the Forbidden Door pay per view and

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<v Speaker 1>talk some other stuff as well. So that's coming up

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<v Speaker 1>today after this show, so you can look forward to that.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, we had a lot to talk about from

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<v Speaker 1>that Dynamite show last night. The show opened with Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Danielson coming out. You know what happened when that guy

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<v Speaker 1>came out. Mike's already backing away from the mic. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what happened when that guy came out. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>I will not be at Forbidden Door, nor will I

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<v Speaker 1>be at Blood and Guts about that DJ. Did I

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<v Speaker 1>get my apology from the Peanut Gallery yesterday and all

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<v Speaker 1>of the uh places that were very mad at me

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<v Speaker 1>for having the temerity to report what ended up being

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<v Speaker 1>exactly accurate. Did I get my apology? Oh? He's laughing uproariously.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like no, I didn't get my apology. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I don't care. I'm not here for praise.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not here to get apologies. I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>care one way or the other. Did you apologize to

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<v Speaker 1>everybody yet for what? Because there are people out there

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<v Speaker 1>that said that you and your partner on russelling Observer Radio,

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Meltzer led them to believe Kazucha Okada or Cazuchica Okada,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on how everybody wants to fight over translations. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Kazucha Okada would not be there. His wife was pregnant,

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<v Speaker 1>she's having a birthday. He's not coming over here. But

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<v Speaker 1>there he is, like he was. I never said he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't going to be there. I said expected it to

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<v Speaker 1>be a three way. I didn't know what the match

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be. I mean, you know, Okada Ocada

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<v Speaker 1>had done an interview where he talked about this, there

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't even be a show without him, and then, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there was word that he wasn't gonna be there,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh you know they even had someone on the

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<v Speaker 1>show say he wasn't gonna be there. For bro, you

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<v Speaker 1>got over two cares. I got worked by Juice Robinson

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<v Speaker 1>too well. I didn't think it was I didn't think

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<v Speaker 1>it was funny that actually, you know the thing about

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<v Speaker 1>Juice Robinson is kind of funny because I was sort

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<v Speaker 1>of worked, but at the same time he actually was

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<v Speaker 1>telling the truth is New Japan contract had expired at

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<v Speaker 1>the time. That was all true. Now, the part where

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<v Speaker 1>he said, you know, I don't know if I want

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<v Speaker 1>to do this anymore, and everything like that, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I presume that he was. He was working,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, maybe he was just depressed. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>But one way the other, uh, one way the other,

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<v Speaker 1>one way or the other. New Japan is in put

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<v Speaker 1>on a show complained about. People need to complain about it,

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<v Speaker 1>whether they love New Japan or love a W or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even worse, hate both of them and love w

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<v Speaker 1>W E. You know it's gonna be a good show

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<v Speaker 1>when it's all said and done. We can pick nits

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<v Speaker 1>over lots of different things. People can cry and say

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<v Speaker 1>that politics don't matter when they absolutely do. Unfortunately, in

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<v Speaker 1>the cope of this thing, I just for anything I

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<v Speaker 1>want to say, I just feel as though there's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be one side that just gets all in a tizzy.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure we'll get into some of this stuff today,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's just people. NATO's not there. This should happen.

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<v Speaker 1>This should be a singles match, This should be this

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<v Speaker 1>Why is this this? Man? Yeah, you know what, let

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<v Speaker 1>me tell you Okay, let me tell y'all something, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about Andrada, okay, andrad A seems to

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<v Speaker 1>think that he was and I guess he said this

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<v Speaker 1>that he was booked for the show and then he

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna wrestle Osprey and then uh, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>put the key bosh, the X and A on it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean a lot of this, you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>was not like there was ever a card that had

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<v Speaker 1>the Luca brothers on it. Okay, I talked about this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been known forever that the Luca brothers were not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be able to work this show. Most of the

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<v Speaker 1>issues with this show have nothing to do with politics. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>there are a few wrestlers that can't work the show

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<v Speaker 1>as a result of politics. But I guess maybe with

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<v Speaker 1>the exception of Andrade, all of that was known going in.

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<v Speaker 1>The issues with the booking of this show are almost

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent due to all of the injuries that

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<v Speaker 1>have taken place that have changed a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>major matches. Uh. They they announced last night an get

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<v Speaker 1>the card here later, but like a totally random match

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<v Speaker 1>involving Sting and Darby and the Young Bucks and Hikko

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<v Speaker 1>Leo is in there and Shingo is in there. Listen.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I have absolutely I have absolutely no idea

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<v Speaker 1>what the New Japan or what the the Young Bucks

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<v Speaker 1>match was originally going to be. Okay, but they're the

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<v Speaker 1>a W World Tag Team Champions and they're in a

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<v Speaker 1>match where Hikolo and Shingo were thrown in at the

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<v Speaker 1>last minute. There is no way that was the originally

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<v Speaker 1>scheduled Young Bucks match. I don't know what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know who was originally going to be in it.

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<v Speaker 1>They announced last night that Kyle O'Reilly uh is injured.

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<v Speaker 1>He's he's on the shelf. So I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>originally the Young Bucks and Red Dragon or I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what the match was going to be. But that

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<v Speaker 1>was another match that was changed due to injury, The

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<v Speaker 1>Hangman Page uh the i w g P Championship match

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<v Speaker 1>that was changed during due to injury, The uh CM

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<v Speaker 1>punk uh Ton Hashi match changed due to injury. Whatever

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<v Speaker 1>Moxley was going to do changed due to injury. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you can go down the card if you want

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<v Speaker 1>me to go down the card. I mean there were

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure tons of matches that have now been made

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<v Speaker 1>that were never originally going to be made, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and other matches. Okay, here, here you go. John Max

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<v Speaker 1>and Hiroshi Nashi changed due to injury. J White, Okada

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<v Speaker 1>Hangman and Cole changed due to injury. Malachi Black, Pocmero Nishi.

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<v Speaker 1>I presume that was that was the original match, thunder

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<v Speaker 1>Rosen Tony Storm. I presume there were no changes there. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>United Empire FTR Rapongi weis. I presume that was the

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<v Speaker 1>original match. But will Osprey Orange Cassidy changed due to injury,

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<v Speaker 1>U Jericho Minor Suzuki, Sammy Cavara, Eddie Kingston Wheeler. You

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<v Speaker 1>didn't showed a Umano. I presume that was originally a

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<v Speaker 1>scheduled Zach Saber to be determined changed due to injury.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Bullet Club versus Sting, Darby Shingo and Haromu

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<v Speaker 1>Young Bucks Fantasamine Hiccolo or Bullet Club changed due to injury.

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<v Speaker 1>So how many matches I just rattle off that were

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<v Speaker 1>changed due to injury? Everyone's complaining about politics and everything,

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<v Speaker 1>But what really screwed up this show was injuries. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what you canna do brought it. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>brought up about. You know, politics has been written about,

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<v Speaker 1>injuries have been written about, and you know, this is

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<v Speaker 1>just step one. And I know, like, if we look

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<v Speaker 1>back ten years from now and this is the only

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<v Speaker 1>thing that New Japan and a W collaborate on, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll probably look back and go, man, I wish there

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<v Speaker 1>was a whole lot in hindsight that would have been changed.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is going to be hopefully step one. And

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen shows like this a zillion times where groups

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<v Speaker 1>work together, especially if you're a Japanese fan, now maybe

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not as much. When you see super shows

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<v Speaker 1>like these and and groups working together, you get a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of multiple person matches, you get a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>tag team matches, and that's what we have here. So no,

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<v Speaker 1>is Orange Cassidy the person I would have picked to

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<v Speaker 1>come off the bench to replace Andrade against wall Osprey. No,

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<v Speaker 1>But we also don't know what else went behind this

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<v Speaker 1>as well too, And you do have two separate companies

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<v Speaker 1>are trying to actually do a bunch of things and

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<v Speaker 1>protect people and do what they need to do for

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<v Speaker 1>storylines that have nothing to do with this one night,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they are going to continue on and may

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<v Speaker 1>have an effect for later on in the next upcoming months.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just the amount of reaction pro and con

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<v Speaker 1>push and pull and everybody going after each other. Last

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<v Speaker 1>night after that show was it was something else, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>We had to break here in a while. But I

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<v Speaker 1>want to throw the phone numbers and etcetera here if

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<v Speaker 1>you'd like to text us four to five seven eight

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<v Speaker 1>zero seven five six six Brian and Wrestling Observer dot

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<v Speaker 1>com is the email at Brian Alvarez on Twitter. And yes,

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<v Speaker 1>if you'd like a cameo from the shores of the

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<v Speaker 1>Pacific Ocean home, I'll the All Atlantic title. I will

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<v Speaker 1>be doing those from the beach at four W online

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<v Speaker 1>on cameo, so make sure you check that out. And

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<v Speaker 1>also we're live, pal I was a special guest this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Check that one out on YouTube later and I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>on Denise's show and me after this show as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So man, so much stuff, brother, and we more after

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<v Speaker 1>the breaks. They're live. Welcome back to the show. Mike'

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<v Speaker 1>semper viv here Russy Server Live Brian Alvarez also here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure since I don't have the Twitter YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>chats up if you can see this man's torso right

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<v Speaker 1>now in your camera lens. That's right now. Apparently the

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<v Speaker 1>pictures frozen. No, there he is. He's very vascular. You

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<v Speaker 1>see his forearm. He probably gets a lot of work

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<v Speaker 1>on that forearm now that he has two kids and

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<v Speaker 1>his wife doesn't want anything to do with him. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Alvarez and that baby blue shirt. I have no

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<v Speaker 1>idea what he's doing. He just got up moment months

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<v Speaker 1>ago and started fiddling around with stuff. I know this

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't make for very good radio everybody, but there's an

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<v Speaker 1>adventure going on the home of Brian Alvarez right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's looking angrily at his computer. I have no

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<v Speaker 1>idea what's going on here. He's got no audio apparently whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea if I'm even on right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh yeah, So we'll get back to Brian here

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<v Speaker 1>in a moment, once Brian figures out exactly what is

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<v Speaker 1>going on over there, and we can get his world

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<v Speaker 1>famous and critically acclaimed Dynamite review from from last night.

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<v Speaker 1>Rick Flair's having a press conference right now because his

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<v Speaker 1>last match is coming up. They moved it out of

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<v Speaker 1>the Fairgrounds to Nashville Municipal Auditorium. They're hyping that up

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<v Speaker 1>as we speak. Rick Flair's last match coming up part

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<v Speaker 1>of Money in the Bank weekend taking place in Nashville.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's that, Brian's forearm and and right bicep and

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<v Speaker 1>now bell buckle still in the shop. Ah oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>we shall take it to the front page or the

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<v Speaker 1>Wrestling Observer newsletter right now. We're men like Ian Carry

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<v Speaker 1>are putting in work. In fact, Ian just posted up

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<v Speaker 1>a story not all that long ago about Ria Ripley

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<v Speaker 1>being back fairly soon following a possible concussion and having

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<v Speaker 1>her teeth teeth knocked loose. It was announced on RAW

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<v Speaker 1>that she would be unable to perform at Money in

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<v Speaker 1>the Bank due to her injuries. Ripley revealed in an

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram comment yesterday that she's dealing with brain and teeth issues.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't see. Can't see a brain injury, stopped being competent

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<v Speaker 1>at reaching it nothing for those people that said that

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<v Speaker 1>Ripley was not injured, she responded back to them. So

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<v Speaker 1>Dave and Bryan talked about it on this morning's Wrestling

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<v Speaker 1>Observer Radio or teeth knock loosen to match and had

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<v Speaker 1>braces put in and unfortunately we're not sure about the

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<v Speaker 1>other thing. When he comes to her brain, odds are

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<v Speaker 1>it's a concussion. Hopefully it is a light one and

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<v Speaker 1>she can return soon, as Brian Alvarez is doing to

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<v Speaker 1>the show right now. Yes, yes, I am bad. Hello everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>what happened? My internet just died? It was weird, the

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<v Speaker 1>bizarre your internet? Wait when a second bout if your

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<v Speaker 1>internet died, what exactly is the video wired into? No,

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<v Speaker 1>the internet on the thing that connects the timeline just

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<v Speaker 1>dropped the internet and I fixed again, so I rebooted everything.

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, Ria Ribley is injured. And uh, I don't know, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>what else could a brain injury be? Like she had

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<v Speaker 1>never removed and put back in like Shabbada. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's Uh, it's one of those things. It's like so weird.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you're allowed to like tell the world you

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<v Speaker 1>have a brain injury, but don't don't ever use the

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<v Speaker 1>word concussion. And again, we don't know for sure that

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Danielson is out with a concussion, but I mean

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<v Speaker 1>we initially heard one in two weeks now it's been longer.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the first thing he said about people worried

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<v Speaker 1>about his his health is that he could read two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred words a minute and a bunch of other stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that air brain. So I presume that he and Rha

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<v Speaker 1>are both out with concussions, but no one's allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>say the word concussions. So at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>what matters is they're both out and reassays she'll be

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<v Speaker 1>back soon, but I mean, and I hope she is.

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<v Speaker 1>But Brian Danielson also was supposed to be back soon

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<v Speaker 1>and he's not back yet, and he it would not

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<v Speaker 1>be the first person who they figured would be back soon,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, and that's worrisome. It is. It is as

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<v Speaker 1>a fan of Brian Danielson, And I'm one of those

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<v Speaker 1>people that said, if he was done, great, you owe

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<v Speaker 1>me nothing. I've seen it all. I know you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do more. But you know what, if you stopped today,

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<v Speaker 1>you were in that top percentile. You won. You're one

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<v Speaker 1>of those people I can say outright won the professional

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<v Speaker 1>wrestling business. Um. But he's had a lot of these things.

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked about it at length for a lot of time.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody knows the time he had to sit on the

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<v Speaker 1>shelf in w W E before eventually he was cleared

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<v Speaker 1>and then eventually he made his way to a W.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just a scary thought. And uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully you heard him talking about what he you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is these are the things I can do, no

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<v Speaker 1>matter what my condition my brain may happen to be in.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're taking a lot of beatings here and how

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<v Speaker 1>how much longer we'll see? So apparently Brian's Internet is

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<v Speaker 1>out again. He just gave me the throat slash, so

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<v Speaker 1>that's not good. I'm gonna delay on doing anything when

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<v Speaker 1>he comes to the Dynamite review until we might be

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<v Speaker 1>able to get him back on here. So yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>Rod A, l E Loo and Rayphine ex except for

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<v Speaker 1>rampage on Friday. No spoilers, of course, we'll let font

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<v Speaker 1>font Leroy do that one and read down the card

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<v Speaker 1>possibly maybe a little bit later on. But and Rode

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<v Speaker 1>and rayphene A plus three additional bouts have been planned

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<v Speaker 1>for Friday's a W rampage. They taped the whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>after uh Dynamite last night and this is apparently this

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<v Speaker 1>is Androddi's first singles about on TV since losing a

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<v Speaker 1>coffin match to Darby Allen in April. He did appear

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<v Speaker 1>at the Casino Battle Royal on the June eighth Dynamite

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<v Speaker 1>and then defeated Frankie Kazarian on Dark Elevation in the

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<v Speaker 1>match that actually had aired this week. So again no spoilers,

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<v Speaker 1>but all of the word is you gotta watch Androtti

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<v Speaker 1>and Phoenix. Uh no surprise. Dave and Bryant talked about

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<v Speaker 1>it this morning. David had heard that it was great.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a couple other people online who have already

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<v Speaker 1>seen it and said, yeah, you know, that's when you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta watch. They're having their pay per view match that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people thought, and Roddy should be having

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<v Speaker 1>a year against the Wall of Sprey. They had it

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<v Speaker 1>against each other and apparently he kicked ass. Jeff Cobb

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<v Speaker 1>faces Cash Wheeler and it's gonna be nice to actually

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<v Speaker 1>see Cash in the ring in the singles match. He's

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<v Speaker 1>becoming like the Marty to to Dax's Sean in some

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<v Speaker 1>ways when it comes to the praise that Dax gets

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<v Speaker 1>for his singles matches. But you face off against Jeff Cobb.

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<v Speaker 1>How is it not going to be awesome? So Cash

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<v Speaker 1>Wheeler and Jeff Cobb will be facing off against each other,

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<v Speaker 1>Hook will be facing the d k C from the

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<v Speaker 1>l A Dojo, plus Serena Deep and Mercedes Martinez tagging

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<v Speaker 1>up together as it looks like they are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be paired off against each other. Uh for the Ring

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<v Speaker 1>of Honor Women's Championship that's going to be taking place. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>There's one criticism about aw that's probably true. There are

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<v Speaker 1>too many belts and as much as I like seeing

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<v Speaker 1>j Lethal and Samoa Joe involved in something, r O

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<v Speaker 1>H having a television champion right now, it's kind of wacky.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it is right. It's they have no TV.

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<v Speaker 1>They may never get TV again. They may end up

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<v Speaker 1>on a streaming service somewhere. Why they still have that

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<v Speaker 1>TV title? I don't know what they can do. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, but speculation station. And it's hard to believe

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<v Speaker 1>that after what Brian Danielson said last night, it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to believe that it's not going to be the former

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<v Speaker 1>Antonio Sazzaro Claudio Castan only it could be somebody else,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's really hard to believe that. Brian Danielson was

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<v Speaker 1>not talking about Cesaro last night and the possibility of

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<v Speaker 1>him coming in and replacing him not only at Forbidden

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<v Speaker 1>Door against Zach Saber Jr. But also in the Blood

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<v Speaker 1>and Guts match. And I'll say this, if it's Cizarro,

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<v Speaker 1>because he's got a history with Eddie Kingston, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you could maybe add some intrigue to the to the match.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I I don't want to see a

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<v Speaker 1>situation like Kurt Henning and the Horseman in the end

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<v Speaker 1>w oh back in the day, where he gets in

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<v Speaker 1>there and he's gonna help defend the honor and then

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<v Speaker 1>he ends up turning immediately and beating down Flair and

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<v Speaker 1>all that sort of stuff, slamming the cage door on

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<v Speaker 1>the head, doing that routine. I wouldn't be looking forward

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<v Speaker 1>to something like that, but it would add a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of mysterious intrigue in I guess for for some

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<v Speaker 1>people if you wanted to go in that direction. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's him who shows up to face off against

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Saber Jr. If it's not him, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>who else he could be. Because you have Jonathan Gresham

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<v Speaker 1>on the roster and he's fabulous and he is your

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<v Speaker 1>ro OH heavyweight champion, and he is the type of

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<v Speaker 1>person that Brian Danielson was talking about. But I have

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<v Speaker 1>a feeling that if it was going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Gresham, you would have announced that last night and

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<v Speaker 1>you could have had some sort of face off against

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Saber Jr. It's just not a big enough name,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not enough of an impactful name for you to

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<v Speaker 1>pull that out as a surprise. The only other person

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<v Speaker 1>that I could randomly think of. Maybe I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>his contract status, I don't know his concussion status, but

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen a lot of guys come back from head

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<v Speaker 1>and neck injuries that a lot of people thought they'd

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<v Speaker 1>never come back from. And that's Nigel McGinnis. And like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, it's such a it's a it's a slight

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<v Speaker 1>outside shot. I am for X t U K. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I wanted to ask you. If I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't watch it next to UK. I have no

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<v Speaker 1>idea if he does announcing, I have no idea about

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<v Speaker 1>any of that stuff or or his status. So again,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's not Gresham, if it's not Zach Saber Jr.

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<v Speaker 1>You start trying to pull up names from the past

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<v Speaker 1>and pull up names that you think would be relevant

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<v Speaker 1>who he could actually be, you know, talking about, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's just there's just not enough of them. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>others signed. He's signed a w W E. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>commentator for n x T. Well, forget about him. Take

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<v Speaker 1>him out of the You know a name someone through

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<v Speaker 1>in here, who Chris Hero just as good as Claudio

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<v Speaker 1>Because yes, here's a thing like everyone's talking about Gargano

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<v Speaker 1>and I would have no problem with Gargano. But but

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<v Speaker 1>but the promo last night from last night, Danielson said,

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<v Speaker 1>I trust this man to both face Zach Saber Jr.

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<v Speaker 1>And also like a violent blood guts match coming up

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<v Speaker 1>on on on Wednesday. And I'm not saying that that

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<v Speaker 1>Gargano couldn't do a wild blood and guts match, but

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<v Speaker 1>that seems more fitting like a big, brutish you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a cloud eo Chris Hero. And Chris Hero is back

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<v Speaker 1>taking bookings again, So I don't think it's Uh, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it's Chris Hero, but somebody brought it up

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<v Speaker 1>in the chat, and uh, you know that's as good, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's as good a name as any. But I do

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<v Speaker 1>think it's most likely Cloudio. You know what, I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to see Claudio comeback team with Chris Hero and they

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<v Speaker 1>face off against FTR. That's what I'd like to see. Well, brother,

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<v Speaker 1>what I'd like to see as my internet hold up

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<v Speaker 1>for this last segment because that's pretty worrisome. Back in

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<v Speaker 1>a moment and I'll do the day W report it

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<v Speaker 1>is ever live. Well, it made a good commercial, so

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<v Speaker 1>let's try this. A W. Dynamite opened up with Danielson

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<v Speaker 1>coming out. Bryan Danielson said he will not be at

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<v Speaker 1>the Forbidden Door pay per view or Blood and Guts.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what he said. I hope he didn't go on

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<v Speaker 1>social media afterwards to get yelled at, but he said,

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<v Speaker 1>I have good news. I have the one person I

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<v Speaker 1>trust to take my place at both Forbidden Door and

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<v Speaker 1>Blood Guts. But I'm not gonna tell you who it is.

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<v Speaker 1>And boy where the fans not happy about that? And

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<v Speaker 1>uh it was It was weird because, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he he mentioned that he came through the bad guy

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<v Speaker 1>tunnel and he kind of sort of turned heel on

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<v Speaker 1>the fans and then like he celebrated afterwards, and and

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<v Speaker 1>then he got up on that middle rope and his

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<v Speaker 1>arms in the air and he kind of had that

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<v Speaker 1>look on his face like I didn't work out the way.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, I thought the promo was actually really really

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<v Speaker 1>great until it totally fell off a cliff at the end.

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<v Speaker 1>But whatever Sabers music played, he came out, he looked

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<v Speaker 1>at Danielson and uh, and that was it. No promo

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<v Speaker 1>by Zack Saber Jr. And Dave last night was saying

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<v Speaker 1>you should have said something or said you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>you're back, I'm gonna getch you. And I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a problem with him saying anything, but the two things

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<v Speaker 1>are bro They had so much to cram into this show,

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<v Speaker 1>and also the fans were already mad that you weren't

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<v Speaker 1>getting the match, So I'm not sure that if it

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<v Speaker 1>would have been like better for Zach Sabers Jr. Say Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, one of these days I'll face you, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'll see this other bloke on Sunday, and he could

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<v Speaker 1>actually said bloke. Right then we had Orange Cassie were

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<v Speaker 1>Pungy Vice versus will Osprey and Austie opened and once

0:25:56.240 --> 0:25:59.399
<v Speaker 1>again will Osprey's team lost. But in this case I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't bother me because Orange Cassidy got the big win,

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<v Speaker 1>and they want to give Orange Cassidy credibility because he's

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<v Speaker 1>facing will Osprey to match that people were not expecting.

0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:10.480
<v Speaker 1>It was not originally going to be on the show,

0:26:11.200 --> 0:26:14.840
<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know, I thought that whatever you want

0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:17.760
<v Speaker 1>to say, by the actual match, and you know, I

0:26:17.800 --> 0:26:21.479
<v Speaker 1>said some stuff like I was not expecting, of all people,

0:26:21.920 --> 0:26:25.320
<v Speaker 1>Will Ospery to face Orange Cassidy. But it's gonna be

0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:28.639
<v Speaker 1>like probably a great match because everything they did in

0:26:28.640 --> 0:26:32.040
<v Speaker 1>the match look great. You know, Orange Cassi does his gimmick,

0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:34.880
<v Speaker 1>but he's actually a very good worker, and I think

0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:37.880
<v Speaker 1>that people are gonna be, uh maybe surprised by that match.

0:26:37.920 --> 0:26:40.440
<v Speaker 1>And then there was a big brawl afterwards. Jeff Cobb,

0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Great o'con United Empire FDR came out to a huge

0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:47.840
<v Speaker 1>pop to even the odds and this had some This

0:26:48.000 --> 0:26:52.159
<v Speaker 1>had some great heat. We had the Christian Cage promo.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know that if you're a subscriber to Wrestling

0:26:56.200 --> 0:26:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Observer dot com tonight you will be able to get

0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:03.680
<v Speaker 1>the Brian and Vinnie Show where Vinnie and I will

0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:06.920
<v Speaker 1>spend ninety minutes reviewing a W and n x T

0:27:07.760 --> 0:27:10.439
<v Speaker 1>and suffice to say I'm gonna need that time to

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<v Speaker 1>fully talk about this particular promo right here. But the

0:27:14.720 --> 0:27:17.520
<v Speaker 1>short story for those of you listening for free here

0:27:17.600 --> 0:27:21.879
<v Speaker 1>Wrestling Observer Live, the short version of the story is, Yes,

0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:26.360
<v Speaker 1>Christian is angry because well over a year ago he

0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:29.119
<v Speaker 1>was thrown out of the Sino Battle Royal by the

0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Jungle Boy, and he has been plotting this for over

0:27:33.640 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 1>a year and he finally he finally turned on the

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:40.520
<v Speaker 1>Jungle Boy. And by the way it was, it was

0:27:40.560 --> 0:27:44.639
<v Speaker 1>actually explained why he never turned on him until after

0:27:44.840 --> 0:27:48.719
<v Speaker 1>Jungle Boy lost to the Belts. He didn't cost Jungle

0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 1>Boy the titles, because in Christian's mind, bro, what a

0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:54.399
<v Speaker 1>job I had. I tried to come out here and

0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:56.639
<v Speaker 1>give this geek a pep talk. I made tons of

0:27:56.680 --> 0:27:59.639
<v Speaker 1>money to stand around ringside. And what really made him

0:27:59.680 --> 0:28:02.600
<v Speaker 1>mad was not only the Jungle Boy had thrown him

0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:04.840
<v Speaker 1>out of the Battle Royal and cost him money there,

0:28:05.280 --> 0:28:09.880
<v Speaker 1>but when Jungle Boy and Lucasaurus lost those titles, man,

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 1>now I actually gotta work. So anyway, he turned on

0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:17.959
<v Speaker 1>Jungle Boy. He did do the line, you know, you

0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:20.760
<v Speaker 1>may want me for a father figure because you need

0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:27.040
<v Speaker 1>a father figure because your father's dead. Oh my god,

0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:29.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't need to see this on two shows, but

0:28:29.520 --> 0:28:31.479
<v Speaker 1>I will say, you know, and I'm not defending it,

0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:35.200
<v Speaker 1>but I just want to point out, bro, those fans

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:40.600
<v Speaker 1>got so so mad at him for that line. I mean,

0:28:40.800 --> 0:28:44.800
<v Speaker 1>that was heat for that line. And then Lucasaurus runs

0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Speaker 1>out and Jungle Boy says, you know what, you Luca Saurus,

0:28:51.200 --> 0:28:55.200
<v Speaker 1>you were like a son to me. And this actually,

0:28:55.600 --> 0:29:00.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, gives Luca source pause. And so Chris Shin

0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:03.120
<v Speaker 1>goes to have a talk with Luca Saurus and he

0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 1>makes sure to wink into the camera so we all

0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:09.840
<v Speaker 1>know he's a horrible person and we will see where

0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 1>this goes. But you know, the line about the dead

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:17.280
<v Speaker 1>father aside, I mean, bro, this was a fantastic promo

0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:21.400
<v Speaker 1>by Christian, Like, this was a fabulous promo because at

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:24.040
<v Speaker 1>the beginning, you know, he wasn't getting a lot of

0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:27.160
<v Speaker 1>heat at the beginning. Let's be honest, man, these people

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:30.360
<v Speaker 1>were like rabid by the end of this promo. So anyway,

0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:32.760
<v Speaker 1>this was quite the performance by Christian. But I got

0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:36.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot more I can say about it tonight. Being

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:40.320
<v Speaker 1>a Scooby Doo villain didn't look well. He always kind

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:44.680
<v Speaker 1>of dresses like that. But Young Bucks and Kylo Riley backstage,

0:29:45.440 --> 0:29:47.880
<v Speaker 1>and this is when Kyle admitted that he is also

0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 1>not medically cleared, and they announced this, this baffling match

0:29:53.840 --> 0:29:57.040
<v Speaker 1>the Young Bucks. Think about the Young Bucks. Dude on

0:29:57.120 --> 0:30:00.720
<v Speaker 1>the Forbidden Door pay per view, I happen what the

0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:03.760
<v Speaker 1>Young Bucks. This is what the Young Bucks ended up with.

0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 1>The Young Bucks l Fantasma, who's awesome, and Hikolo, who

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:15.520
<v Speaker 1>has improved a lot against sting Darby Allen and I

0:30:15.560 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 1>guess you know, they just said, like your buddies who

0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:22.840
<v Speaker 1>end up being uh Shingo and who's the other one?

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:31.880
<v Speaker 1>That's right? And literally, literally, if you watched Darby Ellen's promo,

0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:34.640
<v Speaker 1>he did exactly what I did. But he didn't totally

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:37.360
<v Speaker 1>forget the name. But if you listen to him rattling

0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 1>off everybody in this match, he was clearly like told

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:43.960
<v Speaker 1>about this in the afternoon and he's like, and uh

0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:48.280
<v Speaker 1>Haromo and uh and Shingo are gonna be with us.

0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:52.040
<v Speaker 1>It's like, okay, wow, I mean the match is probably

0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:55.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna be the match is probably gonna be awesome. I

0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:58.920
<v Speaker 1>mean it's probably gonna be like full out awesome. But boy,

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:02.000
<v Speaker 1>what a weird match. When did they get the names

0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:05.280
<v Speaker 1>dudes with attitudes? Because they didn't say that during the

0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 1>show all of a sudden afterwards during the show did

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 1>they know? They may not have. It might have just

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:15.600
<v Speaker 1>been the graphic. I just remember that shot back in

0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:18.920
<v Speaker 1>the day of the Dynamic dudes. And yes, the dynamic

0:31:19.000 --> 0:31:22.320
<v Speaker 1>dudes of Johnny Ason, Shane Douglas and the Junkyard Dog

0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:27.040
<v Speaker 1>and Tommy Rich and Sting still huddled around after the

0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:29.760
<v Speaker 1>sale they were the dudes with attitudes. And now stay

0:31:29.840 --> 0:31:32.719
<v Speaker 1>it was Sting as the old man in that exchange.

0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Now it was. It was absolutely on the graphic. But

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't think Darby or Sting ever mentioned that these

0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:42.000
<v Speaker 1>are their dudes with attitude, Dudes with attitudes. Oh no,

0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean she knows definitely a dude in an attitude.

0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:46.840
<v Speaker 1>Her own was a dude with a different kind of attitude.

0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 1>I wish they were dudes with video packages. And I

0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:52.960
<v Speaker 1>know some people are like, I know, it's it's a nitpick,

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:56.760
<v Speaker 1>and I know a majority I would I would venture

0:31:56.800 --> 0:31:58.440
<v Speaker 1>a majority of the a W fan base has got

0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:04.959
<v Speaker 1>a knowledge of New Japan. But Tamahashi, Okada Horomo, these guys,

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:07.640
<v Speaker 1>it's like I don't know. I don't know if we've

0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:10.640
<v Speaker 1>gotten maximum impact out of everybody, and everything seems a

0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:17.600
<v Speaker 1>little scattered. This was clearly, this was clearly you know what.

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:20.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know for sure. Okay, but how can I

0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 1>say this. I have been given the impression, but I

0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 1>don't know for sure that when they woke up Wednesday

0:32:30.440 --> 0:32:33.760
<v Speaker 1>it was not this match. I think I think that

0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:37.480
<v Speaker 1>they didn't find out. I think that Kyle was probably

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:39.920
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be and listen, don't report this because I

0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:42.400
<v Speaker 1>don't know for sure. I'm fitting pieces together here. I

0:32:42.480 --> 0:32:45.400
<v Speaker 1>have this impression that Kyle was probably supposed to be

0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 1>in the match, and they found out Wednesday that Kyle

0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:52.040
<v Speaker 1>wasn't cleared, and then they had to throw together whatever

0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:57.640
<v Speaker 1>they threw together out of there with that with that, no, no, no,

0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 1>that was actually that was actually something different. I don't

0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 1>think they found out about Kyle until yesterday. That's the

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:05.720
<v Speaker 1>impression that I was given. So I think that yesterday

0:33:05.760 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 1>there was a different match. So for people like you're

0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 1>welcome to complain that there were no video package, because

0:33:10.720 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 1>it is a valid complaint, but it's not like I

0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:17.600
<v Speaker 1>don't think it was because of incompetence and they didn't

0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:19.960
<v Speaker 1>have a video package. I think it was because everything

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:22.760
<v Speaker 1>changed that day and they just didn't have time to

0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:25.400
<v Speaker 1>get a video package ready for whatever ended up being

0:33:25.400 --> 0:33:27.960
<v Speaker 1>announced later on in the evening. I believe, Yeah, absolutely,

0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:29.680
<v Speaker 1>I believe that to be the case too. I just think,

0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:32.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, overall, they probably haven't done a good job

0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:34.680
<v Speaker 1>driving at home. I don't know. I would assume that

0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 1>there's going to be a hype package, you know, half

0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:40.560
<v Speaker 1>hour hype show. We'll have something rampage, and I bet

0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:42.600
<v Speaker 1>you and I bet you whatever they do for that

0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:44.520
<v Speaker 1>hype show, that might be their best one yet because

0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:47.600
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get so much footage from us PAN driving

0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:50.200
<v Speaker 1>home from Excalibur and everybody else. How good some of

0:33:50.200 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 1>these guys are. Because I know JR Is trying to

0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:55.240
<v Speaker 1>do his best, because I know he is legitimately impressed

0:33:55.400 --> 0:33:57.680
<v Speaker 1>every time he's seen Tanahashi and Okada. But I just

0:33:57.920 --> 0:33:59.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's enough for some people who are like,

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:02.720
<v Speaker 1>there's a zillion people I never get to see because

0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:05.720
<v Speaker 1>of the size of this roster. Who are these other guys?

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:07.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm not that interested in this. You're not making me

0:34:07.800 --> 0:34:10.480
<v Speaker 1>that interested in this? All right? We gotta get through this.

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:14.840
<v Speaker 1>We had Malachi Black and Penta for the All Atlantic qualifier.

0:34:14.880 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Penta not allowed to be on the show, and so

0:34:16.680 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Malachi Black one with a kick, and then we had

0:34:19.960 --> 0:34:22.000
<v Speaker 1>an appearance by everybody in the match except is She

0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:26.160
<v Speaker 1>no video, No appearance by Ish, he was nowhere to

0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:30.319
<v Speaker 1>be seen or lot video package. He still wants Scorpio Sky,

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:34.520
<v Speaker 1>who in fact also injured. We had Hangman Page versus

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:38.440
<v Speaker 1>Silas Young in Silas Young he's a local guy and

0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:41.080
<v Speaker 1>so fans got into him the more the match went,

0:34:41.120 --> 0:34:42.839
<v Speaker 1>and the longer it went, and the more he did,

0:34:42.920 --> 0:34:45.399
<v Speaker 1>the more they got into him. And uh, he did

0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:49.480
<v Speaker 1>fall down near the end, but he still jumped up

0:34:49.480 --> 0:34:52.440
<v Speaker 1>on the ropes. He he fought to get that headstand

0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:55.439
<v Speaker 1>and he got it and they popped huge for that,

0:34:56.040 --> 0:35:00.080
<v Speaker 1>but he ended up missing and then Page hit a

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Larry At buckshot. Larry At pinned him and then that's

0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:06.120
<v Speaker 1>when they shot the angle afterwards where Okada made his

0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:09.080
<v Speaker 1>big appearance. And so we have got a four way

0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:11.000
<v Speaker 1>for the I Double d g P title. And man,

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:13.799
<v Speaker 1>you know say what you will about you know who

0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:16.759
<v Speaker 1>we know and who the audience doesn't know. But bro,

0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:19.839
<v Speaker 1>this audience knew Okada and he got the biggest pop

0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:23.400
<v Speaker 1>of anybody on the show when that coin dropped. Holy smokes,

0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:27.640
<v Speaker 1>they went crazy for Ocada. And that's also like this card.

0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:30.799
<v Speaker 1>Whatever you want to say about the booking, I think

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:33.440
<v Speaker 1>it's exactly like I said literally on day one. You

0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:35.719
<v Speaker 1>ain't gonna like all the matches like the you know,

0:35:35.880 --> 0:35:37.960
<v Speaker 1>the matches that are put together on paper, But this

0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:39.560
<v Speaker 1>show is gonna be over and it's gonna be an

0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:44.680
<v Speaker 1>awesome show. Tony Store, Marina Schaffer Dave liked this more

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:46.480
<v Speaker 1>than I did. I thought it was all right. I

0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:50.120
<v Speaker 1>think that Tony needed more. She had that that match

0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:52.520
<v Speaker 1>with Britt that was actually an excellent match, and then

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:54.920
<v Speaker 1>this one was just it's kind of there. It's hard

0:35:54.920 --> 0:35:58.760
<v Speaker 1>to have a good match with Marina. Tony God damn

0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:01.200
<v Speaker 1>near killed her with that asked in the corner again

0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:04.560
<v Speaker 1>and then Uh ended up rolling her up and pinning her,

0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:07.960
<v Speaker 1>and then we had a kurf fluffle as I like

0:36:08.040 --> 0:36:11.560
<v Speaker 1>to call it, and a stare down with thunder Rosa

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:18.120
<v Speaker 1>and Uh and Tony storm Rampage Friday. I don't have

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:20.320
<v Speaker 1>fault Leroy here, so I'll try to say this is

0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:24.920
<v Speaker 1>generically as possible, Hook versus d Casey andrawd A versus

0:36:24.960 --> 0:36:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Ray Phoenix, Serena Deeve and Mercedes Martinez, antag action Jeff

0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Cobb versus Cash Wheeler. Moving on main event, John Moxley

0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Tona Hashi against Jericho and Lance Archer. There's an excellent

0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:41.160
<v Speaker 1>main event, a lot of brawling with John Moxley and Jericho.

0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:44.600
<v Speaker 1>Uh Tanahashi's in there, and dude, bro this guy is

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:48.720
<v Speaker 1>old and uh he's barely vaulting over the top rope

0:36:48.960 --> 0:36:51.240
<v Speaker 1>and it's taken a long time to get in position

0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:53.920
<v Speaker 1>for the high fly flow. But dude, he's a legend

0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:56.040
<v Speaker 1>and he knows what to do, and the people were

0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:59.560
<v Speaker 1>into him, and he he pulled everything off. He pulled

0:36:59.600 --> 0:37:01.600
<v Speaker 1>all of it off, and I think him and mox

0:37:01.680 --> 0:37:04.440
<v Speaker 1>are gonna have a great match on Sunday. And uh

0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:08.480
<v Speaker 1>ended up with him getting the high fly flow win

0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:14.200
<v Speaker 1>over Lance Archer. And then afterwards so they had a

0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:18.200
<v Speaker 1>long brawl and Uh, Dave was saying that this is

0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:20.560
<v Speaker 1>the idea of this was like straight out of I

0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 1>forget what he said, Mid South or something like that,

0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:29.520
<v Speaker 1>But I actually think they do another long brawl on rampage.

0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:33.160
<v Speaker 1>I think and uh, I think that's the one that

0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:36.359
<v Speaker 1>was supposed to be reminiscent of the old days. This

0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:40.759
<v Speaker 1>was long, but man, I laughed and laughed in a

0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:43.319
<v Speaker 1>in a way where I felt bad for them. Poor

0:37:43.440 --> 0:37:46.120
<v Speaker 1>Tonahashi and Moxley standing in the ring looking at each

0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:50.480
<v Speaker 1>other for five straight minutes. That was wrestling history back

0:37:50.480 --> 0:38:10.000
<v Speaker 1>in a moment Observer Live. Yes, Fujita and Shuzaki thirty

0:38:10.040 --> 0:38:13.600
<v Speaker 1>minutes stare down, So Moxley and Tonahashi, I believe, would

0:38:13.600 --> 0:38:15.880
<v Speaker 1>be in second place for the longest stare down in

0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:17.600
<v Speaker 1>the history of wrestling with those poor guys. And they

0:38:17.680 --> 0:38:19.799
<v Speaker 1>kept cutting to them in the ring, and these poor

0:38:19.840 --> 0:38:23.600
<v Speaker 1>guys start to look at each other at God, the

0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:25.759
<v Speaker 1>plans that looked at the plan was good, you know,

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:29.160
<v Speaker 1>have a fire, a dumpster fire taking place at ringside,

0:38:29.200 --> 0:38:31.880
<v Speaker 1>carnage everywhere. And then they cut to the shot and

0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:35.279
<v Speaker 1>those two as you close in, are standing above the

0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:38.560
<v Speaker 1>fray ready to face off against each other. Just didn't

0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 1>end up turning out that way. Hopefully they have more

0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:43.520
<v Speaker 1>of a banger for however, they closed the show on Friday.

0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:47.440
<v Speaker 1>But from AP reporter to AP reporter, Dennis Gorman just

0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:50.560
<v Speaker 1>let us know about this Teresa Walker, who covers the

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<v Speaker 1>Titans for the ap Down in Tennessee, is also covering

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<v Speaker 1>this Ric Flair final match press conference. And yeah, what

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<v Speaker 1>a press conference. We did a whole press conference. We

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<v Speaker 1>do don't even know where Rick Flair's matches. Rick Flair

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<v Speaker 1>says he's only worried about his pacemaker getting unplugged and

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<v Speaker 1>an inner ear issue for his last match, now set

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<v Speaker 1>for July thirty one. Says he won't take his blood

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<v Speaker 1>thunder medication that day. Yeah, he also said. He also

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<v Speaker 1>said about the pacemaker, he just plug it back in.

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<v Speaker 1>That's you just plug it back in. Sure, Well, you

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<v Speaker 1>make the phone call, you put the phone up to

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<v Speaker 1>the chest, it reads it or whatever. Our with that works.

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<v Speaker 1>You jump in like a car on his I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>making it up, by the way, I'm not making that up.

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<v Speaker 1>They had an entire press conference about Rick Flair's last match,

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<v Speaker 1>and they didn't even tell us what his last match is.

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<v Speaker 1>They may not know yet. I called Muda right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe Muda's on his way over. This is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>one of his last ones. But yeah, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, the hell with it, Let's just let's just

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<v Speaker 1>try again tomorrow. Brian, I think we need Hey, I

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<v Speaker 1>try again every day. I never quit and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna quit after this show when I appear on Denise's program.

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<v Speaker 1>So check that out everybody, And uh, thanks for listening. Thanks,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike has always callers and listeners. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>thank the Internet. Well, we'll talk to again next time

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