Speaker 1: Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition
Speaker 1: of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network.
Speaker 1: Let's get it all. How's it going, everybody? Brian Alvarez
Speaker 1: here on Wrestling Observe Live. We are here every day
Speaker 1: Monday through Friday, New Pacific, three Eastern, Sunday three Pacific,
Speaker 1: sixth Eastern. Well, it's Thursday on this program, and you
Speaker 1: know what that means. Last night a w Dynamite, the
Speaker 1: go home Dynamite for the Forbidden Door pay per view,
Speaker 1: and we have got a rampage show coming up on Friday.
Speaker 1: But I believe that all of the matches for Forbidden
Speaker 1: Door are known as of today. So that's pretty much
Speaker 1: the main thing to talk about here today, Dynamite and
Speaker 1: Forbidden Doors. So we'll do that. What's the think of
Speaker 1: the show? You're welcome to contact us for five seven
Speaker 1: eight zero seven five six. They added four matches to
Speaker 1: the show last night, and so at this point we've
Speaker 1: got quite a few matches on this pay per view.
Speaker 1: I guess the two big stories were Brian Danielson announcing
Speaker 1: that he is not on the show, nor is he
Speaker 1: on the Blood and Cuts show, and in fact, Will Osprey,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, well, Will Osprey is on the show as well,
Speaker 1: but because it's Golconda showed up and it will be
Speaker 1: a four way for the i W d g P
Speaker 1: World Heavyweight Championship, J White, Hangman Page, Adam Cole and
Speaker 1: Okada for the title. Those are the two biggest stories,
Speaker 1: I would say coming out of the show last night,
Speaker 1: so we can talk about that, as well as notes
Speaker 1: on the n x T two point oh ratings which
Speaker 1: were huge. It's interesting because Dynamite last week didn't do
Speaker 1: well and Rampage did horribly, but SmackDown Raw and n
Speaker 1: x T all huge numbers and we can talk about
Speaker 1: that here today. Plus an update on Rhea Ripley, who
Speaker 1: has gone public with the issues that are keeping her
Speaker 1: out of the pay per view. We can tell you
Speaker 1: about that. Uh And also on the subject of a
Speaker 1: W injuries, you can add sky Blue to the list.
Speaker 1: She is injured, Kyle O'Reilly is injured, Red Velvet is injured.
Speaker 1: There have never been this many injuries at one time
Speaker 1: at a W. Back in the mout and talk about
Speaker 1: all of it Observer Live on the show Bright Albarez
Speaker 1: here Wrestling Observer Live Mike sumbur Viv also Wrestling Observer
Speaker 1: dot com. If you're watching the Twitch video right now,
Speaker 1: you just saw Denise. I will be on Denise's show
Speaker 1: one ten Pacific for ten Eastern today. We'll be doing
Speaker 1: a preview of the Forbidden Door pay per view and
Speaker 1: talk some other stuff as well. So that's coming up
Speaker 1: today after this show, so you can look forward to that.
Speaker 1: And uh, we had a lot to talk about from
Speaker 1: that Dynamite show last night. The show opened with Brian
Speaker 1: Danielson coming out. You know what happened when that guy
Speaker 1: came out. Mike's already backing away from the mic. You
Speaker 1: know what happened when that guy came out. He said,
Speaker 1: I will not be at Forbidden Door, nor will I
Speaker 1: be at Blood and Guts about that DJ. Did I
Speaker 1: get my apology from the Peanut Gallery yesterday and all
Speaker 1: of the uh places that were very mad at me
Speaker 1: for having the temerity to report what ended up being
Speaker 1: exactly accurate. Did I get my apology? Oh? He's laughing uproariously.
Speaker 1: It sounds like no, I didn't get my apology. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't care. I'm not here for praise.
Speaker 1: I'm not here to get apologies. I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: care one way or the other. Did you apologize to
Speaker 1: everybody yet for what? Because there are people out there
Speaker 1: that said that you and your partner on russelling Observer Radio,
Speaker 1: Dave Meltzer led them to believe Kazucha Okada or Cazuchica Okada,
Speaker 1: depending on how everybody wants to fight over translations. Now,
Speaker 1: Kazucha Okada would not be there. His wife was pregnant,
Speaker 1: she's having a birthday. He's not coming over here. But
Speaker 1: there he is, like he was. I never said he
Speaker 1: wasn't going to be there. I said expected it to
Speaker 1: be a three way. I didn't know what the match
Speaker 1: was going to be. I mean, you know, Okada Ocada
Speaker 1: had done an interview where he talked about this, there
Speaker 1: shouldn't even be a show without him, and then, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, there was word that he wasn't gonna be there,
Speaker 1: and uh you know they even had someone on the
Speaker 1: show say he wasn't gonna be there. For bro, you
Speaker 1: got over two cares. I got worked by Juice Robinson
Speaker 1: too well. I didn't think it was I didn't think
Speaker 1: it was funny that actually, you know the thing about
Speaker 1: Juice Robinson is kind of funny because I was sort
Speaker 1: of worked, but at the same time he actually was
Speaker 1: telling the truth is New Japan contract had expired at
Speaker 1: the time. That was all true. Now, the part where
Speaker 1: he said, you know, I don't know if I want
Speaker 1: to do this anymore, and everything like that, I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess I presume that he was. He was working,
Speaker 1: but you know, maybe he was just depressed. I don't know.
Speaker 1: But one way the other, uh, one way the other,
Speaker 1: one way or the other. New Japan is in put
Speaker 1: on a show complained about. People need to complain about it,
Speaker 1: whether they love New Japan or love a W or
Speaker 1: maybe even worse, hate both of them and love w
Speaker 1: W E. You know it's gonna be a good show
Speaker 1: when it's all said and done. We can pick nits
Speaker 1: over lots of different things. People can cry and say
Speaker 1: that politics don't matter when they absolutely do. Unfortunately, in
Speaker 1: the cope of this thing, I just for anything I
Speaker 1: want to say, I just feel as though there's going
Speaker 1: to be one side that just gets all in a tizzy.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure we'll get into some of this stuff today,
Speaker 1: but it's just people. NATO's not there. This should happen.
Speaker 1: This should be a singles match, This should be this
Speaker 1: Why is this this? Man? Yeah, you know what, let
Speaker 1: me tell you Okay, let me tell y'all something, all right.
Speaker 1: I don't know about Andrada, okay, andrad A seems to
Speaker 1: think that he was and I guess he said this
Speaker 1: that he was booked for the show and then he
Speaker 1: was gonna wrestle Osprey and then uh, and then they
Speaker 1: put the key bosh, the X and A on it. Okay,
Speaker 1: but I mean a lot of this, you know, it
Speaker 1: was not like there was ever a card that had
Speaker 1: the Luca brothers on it. Okay, I talked about this.
Speaker 1: It's been known forever that the Luca brothers were not
Speaker 1: gonna be able to work this show. Most of the
Speaker 1: issues with this show have nothing to do with politics. Okay,
Speaker 1: there are a few wrestlers that can't work the show
Speaker 1: as a result of politics. But I guess maybe with
Speaker 1: the exception of Andrade, all of that was known going in.
Speaker 1: The issues with the booking of this show are almost
Speaker 1: one hundred percent due to all of the injuries that
Speaker 1: have taken place that have changed a lot of the
Speaker 1: major matches. Uh. They they announced last night an get
Speaker 1: the card here later, but like a totally random match
Speaker 1: involving Sting and Darby and the Young Bucks and Hikko
Speaker 1: Leo is in there and Shingo is in there. Listen.
Speaker 1: I don't I have absolutely I have absolutely no idea
Speaker 1: what the New Japan or what the the Young Bucks
Speaker 1: match was originally going to be. Okay, but they're the
Speaker 1: a W World Tag Team Champions and they're in a
Speaker 1: match where Hikolo and Shingo were thrown in at the
Speaker 1: last minute. There is no way that was the originally
Speaker 1: scheduled Young Bucks match. I don't know what it was.
Speaker 1: I don't know who was originally going to be in it.
Speaker 1: They announced last night that Kyle O'Reilly uh is injured.
Speaker 1: He's he's on the shelf. So I don't know if
Speaker 1: originally the Young Bucks and Red Dragon or I don't
Speaker 1: know what the match was going to be. But that
Speaker 1: was another match that was changed due to injury, The
Speaker 1: Hangman Page uh the i w g P Championship match
Speaker 1: that was changed during due to injury, The uh CM
Speaker 1: punk uh Ton Hashi match changed due to injury. Whatever
Speaker 1: Moxley was going to do changed due to injury. I
Speaker 1: mean you can go down the card if you want
Speaker 1: me to go down the card. I mean there were
Speaker 1: I'm sure tons of matches that have now been made
Speaker 1: that were never originally going to be made, and uh,
Speaker 1: and other matches. Okay, here, here you go. John Max
Speaker 1: and Hiroshi Nashi changed due to injury. J White, Okada
Speaker 1: Hangman and Cole changed due to injury. Malachi Black, Pocmero Nishi.
Speaker 1: I presume that was that was the original match, thunder
Speaker 1: Rosen Tony Storm. I presume there were no changes there. Uh,
Speaker 1: United Empire FTR Rapongi weis. I presume that was the
Speaker 1: original match. But will Osprey Orange Cassidy changed due to injury,
Speaker 1: U Jericho Minor Suzuki, Sammy Cavara, Eddie Kingston Wheeler. You
Speaker 1: didn't showed a Umano. I presume that was originally a
Speaker 1: scheduled Zach Saber to be determined changed due to injury.
Speaker 1: And then Bullet Club versus Sting, Darby Shingo and Haromu
Speaker 1: Young Bucks Fantasamine Hiccolo or Bullet Club changed due to injury.
Speaker 1: So how many matches I just rattle off that were
Speaker 1: changed due to injury? Everyone's complaining about politics and everything,
Speaker 1: But what really screwed up this show was injuries. I
Speaker 1: don't know what you canna do brought it. It's been
Speaker 1: brought up about. You know, politics has been written about,
Speaker 1: injuries have been written about, and you know, this is
Speaker 1: just step one. And I know, like, if we look
Speaker 1: back ten years from now and this is the only
Speaker 1: thing that New Japan and a W collaborate on, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll probably look back and go, man, I wish there
Speaker 1: was a whole lot in hindsight that would have been changed.
Speaker 1: But this is going to be hopefully step one. And
Speaker 1: we've seen shows like this a zillion times where groups
Speaker 1: work together, especially if you're a Japanese fan, now maybe
Speaker 1: if you're not as much. When you see super shows
Speaker 1: like these and and groups working together, you get a
Speaker 1: lot of multiple person matches, you get a lot of
Speaker 1: tag team matches, and that's what we have here. So no,
Speaker 1: is Orange Cassidy the person I would have picked to
Speaker 1: come off the bench to replace Andrade against wall Osprey. No,
Speaker 1: But we also don't know what else went behind this
Speaker 1: as well too, And you do have two separate companies
Speaker 1: are trying to actually do a bunch of things and
Speaker 1: protect people and do what they need to do for
Speaker 1: storylines that have nothing to do with this one night,
Speaker 1: and then they are going to continue on and may
Speaker 1: have an effect for later on in the next upcoming months.
Speaker 1: So it's just the amount of reaction pro and con
Speaker 1: push and pull and everybody going after each other. Last
Speaker 1: night after that show was it was something else, all right.
Speaker 1: We had to break here in a while. But I
Speaker 1: want to throw the phone numbers and etcetera here if
Speaker 1: you'd like to text us four to five seven eight
Speaker 1: zero seven five six six Brian and Wrestling Observer dot
Speaker 1: com is the email at Brian Alvarez on Twitter. And yes,
Speaker 1: if you'd like a cameo from the shores of the
Speaker 1: Pacific Ocean home, I'll the All Atlantic title. I will
Speaker 1: be doing those from the beach at four W online
Speaker 1: on cameo, so make sure you check that out. And
Speaker 1: also we're live, pal I was a special guest this week.
Speaker 1: Check that one out on YouTube later and I'll be
Speaker 1: on Denise's show and me after this show as well.
Speaker 1: So man, so much stuff, brother, and we more after
Speaker 1: the breaks. They're live. Welcome back to the show. Mike'
Speaker 1: semper viv here Russy Server Live Brian Alvarez also here.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure since I don't have the Twitter YouTube
Speaker 1: chats up if you can see this man's torso right
Speaker 1: now in your camera lens. That's right now. Apparently the
Speaker 1: pictures frozen. No, there he is. He's very vascular. You
Speaker 1: see his forearm. He probably gets a lot of work
Speaker 1: on that forearm now that he has two kids and
Speaker 1: his wife doesn't want anything to do with him. Yep,
Speaker 1: Brian Alvarez and that baby blue shirt. I have no
Speaker 1: idea what he's doing. He just got up moment months
Speaker 1: ago and started fiddling around with stuff. I know this
Speaker 1: doesn't make for very good radio everybody, but there's an
Speaker 1: adventure going on the home of Brian Alvarez right now.
Speaker 1: Now he's looking angrily at his computer. I have no
Speaker 1: idea what's going on here. He's got no audio apparently whatsoever.
Speaker 1: I have no idea if I'm even on right now.
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, So we'll get back to Brian here
Speaker 1: in a moment, once Brian figures out exactly what is
Speaker 1: going on over there, and we can get his world
Speaker 1: famous and critically acclaimed Dynamite review from from last night.
Speaker 1: Rick Flair's having a press conference right now because his
Speaker 1: last match is coming up. They moved it out of
Speaker 1: the Fairgrounds to Nashville Municipal Auditorium. They're hyping that up
Speaker 1: as we speak. Rick Flair's last match coming up part
Speaker 1: of Money in the Bank weekend taking place in Nashville.
Speaker 1: So there's that, Brian's forearm and and right bicep and
Speaker 1: now bell buckle still in the shop. Ah oh man,
Speaker 1: we shall take it to the front page or the
Speaker 1: Wrestling Observer newsletter right now. We're men like Ian Carry
Speaker 1: are putting in work. In fact, Ian just posted up
Speaker 1: a story not all that long ago about Ria Ripley
Speaker 1: being back fairly soon following a possible concussion and having
Speaker 1: her teeth teeth knocked loose. It was announced on RAW
Speaker 1: that she would be unable to perform at Money in
Speaker 1: the Bank due to her injuries. Ripley revealed in an
Speaker 1: Instagram comment yesterday that she's dealing with brain and teeth issues.
Speaker 1: Can't see. Can't see a brain injury, stopped being competent
Speaker 1: at reaching it nothing for those people that said that
Speaker 1: Ripley was not injured, she responded back to them. So
Speaker 1: Dave and Bryan talked about it on this morning's Wrestling
Speaker 1: Observer Radio or teeth knock loosen to match and had
Speaker 1: braces put in and unfortunately we're not sure about the
Speaker 1: other thing. When he comes to her brain, odds are
Speaker 1: it's a concussion. Hopefully it is a light one and
Speaker 1: she can return soon, as Brian Alvarez is doing to
Speaker 1: the show right now. Yes, yes, I am bad. Hello everybody,
Speaker 1: what happened? My internet just died? It was weird, the
Speaker 1: bizarre your internet? Wait when a second bout if your
Speaker 1: internet died, what exactly is the video wired into? No,
Speaker 1: the internet on the thing that connects the timeline just
Speaker 1: dropped the internet and I fixed again, so I rebooted everything.
Speaker 1: But yes, Ria Ribley is injured. And uh, I don't know, bro,
Speaker 1: what else could a brain injury be? Like she had
Speaker 1: never removed and put back in like Shabbada. I think
Speaker 1: it's Uh, it's one of those things. It's like so weird.
Speaker 1: It's like you're allowed to like tell the world you
Speaker 1: have a brain injury, but don't don't ever use the
Speaker 1: word concussion. And again, we don't know for sure that
Speaker 1: Brian Danielson is out with a concussion, but I mean
Speaker 1: we initially heard one in two weeks now it's been longer.
Speaker 1: And then the first thing he said about people worried
Speaker 1: about his his health is that he could read two
Speaker 1: hundred words a minute and a bunch of other stuff
Speaker 1: that air brain. So I presume that he and Rha
Speaker 1: are both out with concussions, but no one's allowed to
Speaker 1: say the word concussions. So at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: what matters is they're both out and reassays she'll be
Speaker 1: back soon, but I mean, and I hope she is.
Speaker 1: But Brian Danielson also was supposed to be back soon
Speaker 1: and he's not back yet, and he it would not
Speaker 1: be the first person who they figured would be back soon,
Speaker 1: and uh, and that's worrisome. It is. It is as
Speaker 1: a fan of Brian Danielson, And I'm one of those
Speaker 1: people that said, if he was done, great, you owe
Speaker 1: me nothing. I've seen it all. I know you want
Speaker 1: to do more. But you know what, if you stopped today,
Speaker 1: you were in that top percentile. You won. You're one
Speaker 1: of those people I can say outright won the professional
Speaker 1: wrestling business. Um. But he's had a lot of these things.
Speaker 1: We've talked about it at length for a lot of time.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows the time he had to sit on the
Speaker 1: shelf in w W E before eventually he was cleared
Speaker 1: and then eventually he made his way to a W.
Speaker 1: But it's just a scary thought. And uh, you know,
Speaker 1: hopefully you heard him talking about what he you know,
Speaker 1: this is these are the things I can do, no
Speaker 1: matter what my condition my brain may happen to be in.
Speaker 1: But you're taking a lot of beatings here and how
Speaker 1: how much longer we'll see? So apparently Brian's Internet is
Speaker 1: out again. He just gave me the throat slash, so
Speaker 1: that's not good. I'm gonna delay on doing anything when
Speaker 1: he comes to the Dynamite review until we might be
Speaker 1: able to get him back on here. So yeah, and
Speaker 1: Rod A, l E Loo and Rayphine ex except for
Speaker 1: rampage on Friday. No spoilers, of course, we'll let font
Speaker 1: font Leroy do that one and read down the card
Speaker 1: possibly maybe a little bit later on. But and Rode
Speaker 1: and rayphene A plus three additional bouts have been planned
Speaker 1: for Friday's a W rampage. They taped the whole thing
Speaker 1: after uh Dynamite last night and this is apparently this
Speaker 1: is Androddi's first singles about on TV since losing a
Speaker 1: coffin match to Darby Allen in April. He did appear
Speaker 1: at the Casino Battle Royal on the June eighth Dynamite
Speaker 1: and then defeated Frankie Kazarian on Dark Elevation in the
Speaker 1: match that actually had aired this week. So again no spoilers,
Speaker 1: but all of the word is you gotta watch Androtti
Speaker 1: and Phoenix. Uh no surprise. Dave and Bryant talked about
Speaker 1: it this morning. David had heard that it was great.
Speaker 1: There are a couple other people online who have already
Speaker 1: seen it and said, yeah, you know, that's when you
Speaker 1: gotta watch. They're having their pay per view match that
Speaker 1: a lot of people thought, and Roddy should be having
Speaker 1: a year against the Wall of Sprey. They had it
Speaker 1: against each other and apparently he kicked ass. Jeff Cobb
Speaker 1: faces Cash Wheeler and it's gonna be nice to actually
Speaker 1: see Cash in the ring in the singles match. He's
Speaker 1: becoming like the Marty to to Dax's Sean in some
Speaker 1: ways when it comes to the praise that Dax gets
Speaker 1: for his singles matches. But you face off against Jeff Cobb.
Speaker 1: How is it not going to be awesome? So Cash
Speaker 1: Wheeler and Jeff Cobb will be facing off against each other,
Speaker 1: Hook will be facing the d k C from the
Speaker 1: l A Dojo, plus Serena Deep and Mercedes Martinez tagging
Speaker 1: up together as it looks like they are going to
Speaker 1: be paired off against each other. Uh for the Ring
Speaker 1: of Honor Women's Championship that's going to be taking place. Now.
Speaker 1: There's one criticism about aw that's probably true. There are
Speaker 1: too many belts and as much as I like seeing
Speaker 1: j Lethal and Samoa Joe involved in something, r O
Speaker 1: H having a television champion right now, it's kind of wacky.
Speaker 1: I mean it is right. It's they have no TV.
Speaker 1: They may never get TV again. They may end up
Speaker 1: on a streaming service somewhere. Why they still have that
Speaker 1: TV title? I don't know what they can do. I
Speaker 1: don't know, but speculation station. And it's hard to believe
Speaker 1: that after what Brian Danielson said last night, it's hard
Speaker 1: to believe that it's not going to be the former
Speaker 1: Antonio Sazzaro Claudio Castan only it could be somebody else,
Speaker 1: But it's really hard to believe that. Brian Danielson was
Speaker 1: not talking about Cesaro last night and the possibility of
Speaker 1: him coming in and replacing him not only at Forbidden
Speaker 1: Door against Zach Saber Jr. But also in the Blood
Speaker 1: and Guts match. And I'll say this, if it's Cizarro,
Speaker 1: because he's got a history with Eddie Kingston, you know,
Speaker 1: you could maybe add some intrigue to the to the match.
Speaker 1: But you know, I I don't want to see a
Speaker 1: situation like Kurt Henning and the Horseman in the end
Speaker 1: w oh back in the day, where he gets in
Speaker 1: there and he's gonna help defend the honor and then
Speaker 1: he ends up turning immediately and beating down Flair and
Speaker 1: all that sort of stuff, slamming the cage door on
Speaker 1: the head, doing that routine. I wouldn't be looking forward
Speaker 1: to something like that, but it would add a little
Speaker 1: bit of mysterious intrigue in I guess for for some
Speaker 1: people if you wanted to go in that direction. Uh,
Speaker 1: if it's him who shows up to face off against
Speaker 1: Zach Saber Jr. If it's not him, I don't know
Speaker 1: who else he could be. Because you have Jonathan Gresham
Speaker 1: on the roster and he's fabulous and he is your
Speaker 1: ro OH heavyweight champion, and he is the type of
Speaker 1: person that Brian Danielson was talking about. But I have
Speaker 1: a feeling that if it was going to be a
Speaker 1: Jonathan Gresham, you would have announced that last night and
Speaker 1: you could have had some sort of face off against
Speaker 1: Zach Saber Jr. It's just not a big enough name,
Speaker 1: it's not enough of an impactful name for you to
Speaker 1: pull that out as a surprise. The only other person
Speaker 1: that I could randomly think of. Maybe I don't know
Speaker 1: his contract status, I don't know his concussion status, but
Speaker 1: we've seen a lot of guys come back from head
Speaker 1: and neck injuries that a lot of people thought they'd
Speaker 1: never come back from. And that's Nigel McGinnis. And like
Speaker 1: I said, it's such a it's a it's a slight
Speaker 1: outside shot. I am for X t U K. Well,
Speaker 1: that's why I wanted to ask you. If I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't watch it next to UK. I have no
Speaker 1: idea if he does announcing, I have no idea about
Speaker 1: any of that stuff or or his status. So again,
Speaker 1: if it's not Gresham, if it's not Zach Saber Jr.
Speaker 1: You start trying to pull up names from the past
Speaker 1: and pull up names that you think would be relevant
Speaker 1: who he could actually be, you know, talking about, and
Speaker 1: there's just there's just not enough of them. You know,
Speaker 1: others signed. He's signed a w W E. He's a
Speaker 1: commentator for n x T. Well, forget about him. Take
Speaker 1: him out of the You know a name someone through
Speaker 1: in here, who Chris Hero just as good as Claudio
Speaker 1: Because yes, here's a thing like everyone's talking about Gargano
Speaker 1: and I would have no problem with Gargano. But but
Speaker 1: but the promo last night from last night, Danielson said,
Speaker 1: I trust this man to both face Zach Saber Jr.
Speaker 1: And also like a violent blood guts match coming up
Speaker 1: on on on Wednesday. And I'm not saying that that
Speaker 1: Gargano couldn't do a wild blood and guts match, but
Speaker 1: that seems more fitting like a big, brutish you know,
Speaker 1: a cloud eo Chris Hero. And Chris Hero is back
Speaker 1: taking bookings again, So I don't think it's Uh, I
Speaker 1: don't think it's Chris Hero, but somebody brought it up
Speaker 1: in the chat, and uh, you know that's as good, Uh,
Speaker 1: that's as good a name as any. But I do
Speaker 1: think it's most likely Cloudio. You know what, I'd like
Speaker 1: to see Claudio comeback team with Chris Hero and they
Speaker 1: face off against FTR. That's what I'd like to see. Well, brother,
Speaker 1: what I'd like to see as my internet hold up
Speaker 1: for this last segment because that's pretty worrisome. Back in
Speaker 1: a moment and I'll do the day W report it
Speaker 1: is ever live. Well, it made a good commercial, so
Speaker 1: let's try this. A W. Dynamite opened up with Danielson
Speaker 1: coming out. Bryan Danielson said he will not be at
Speaker 1: the Forbidden Door pay per view or Blood and Guts.
Speaker 1: That's what he said. I hope he didn't go on
Speaker 1: social media afterwards to get yelled at, but he said,
Speaker 1: I have good news. I have the one person I
Speaker 1: trust to take my place at both Forbidden Door and
Speaker 1: Blood Guts. But I'm not gonna tell you who it is.
Speaker 1: And boy where the fans not happy about that? And
Speaker 1: uh it was It was weird because, like you know,
Speaker 1: he he mentioned that he came through the bad guy
Speaker 1: tunnel and he kind of sort of turned heel on
Speaker 1: the fans and then like he celebrated afterwards, and and
Speaker 1: then he got up on that middle rope and his
Speaker 1: arms in the air and he kind of had that
Speaker 1: look on his face like I didn't work out the way.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I thought the promo was actually really really
Speaker 1: great until it totally fell off a cliff at the end.
Speaker 1: But whatever Sabers music played, he came out, he looked
Speaker 1: at Danielson and uh, and that was it. No promo
Speaker 1: by Zack Saber Jr. And Dave last night was saying
Speaker 1: you should have said something or said you know, when
Speaker 1: you're back, I'm gonna getch you. And I don't have
Speaker 1: a problem with him saying anything, but the two things
Speaker 1: are bro They had so much to cram into this show,
Speaker 1: and also the fans were already mad that you weren't
Speaker 1: getting the match, So I'm not sure that if it
Speaker 1: would have been like better for Zach Sabers Jr. Say Hey,
Speaker 1: you know, one of these days I'll face you, but
Speaker 1: I'll see this other bloke on Sunday, and he could
Speaker 1: actually said bloke. Right then we had Orange Cassie were
Speaker 1: Pungy Vice versus will Osprey and Austie opened and once
Speaker 1: again will Osprey's team lost. But in this case I
Speaker 1: wasn't bother me because Orange Cassidy got the big win,
Speaker 1: and they want to give Orange Cassidy credibility because he's
Speaker 1: facing will Osprey to match that people were not expecting.
Speaker 1: It was not originally going to be on the show,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I thought that whatever you want
Speaker 1: to say, by the actual match, and you know, I
Speaker 1: said some stuff like I was not expecting, of all people,
Speaker 1: Will Ospery to face Orange Cassidy. But it's gonna be
Speaker 1: like probably a great match because everything they did in
Speaker 1: the match look great. You know, Orange Cassi does his gimmick,
Speaker 1: but he's actually a very good worker, and I think
Speaker 1: that people are gonna be, uh maybe surprised by that match.
Speaker 1: And then there was a big brawl afterwards. Jeff Cobb,
Speaker 1: Great o'con United Empire FDR came out to a huge
Speaker 1: pop to even the odds and this had some This
Speaker 1: had some great heat. We had the Christian Cage promo.
Speaker 1: Do you know that if you're a subscriber to Wrestling
Speaker 1: Observer dot com tonight you will be able to get
Speaker 1: the Brian and Vinnie Show where Vinnie and I will
Speaker 1: spend ninety minutes reviewing a W and n x T
Speaker 1: and suffice to say I'm gonna need that time to
Speaker 1: fully talk about this particular promo right here. But the
Speaker 1: short story for those of you listening for free here
Speaker 1: Wrestling Observer Live, the short version of the story is, Yes,
Speaker 1: Christian is angry because well over a year ago he
Speaker 1: was thrown out of the Sino Battle Royal by the
Speaker 1: Jungle Boy, and he has been plotting this for over
Speaker 1: a year and he finally he finally turned on the
Speaker 1: Jungle Boy. And by the way it was, it was
Speaker 1: actually explained why he never turned on him until after
Speaker 1: Jungle Boy lost to the Belts. He didn't cost Jungle
Speaker 1: Boy the titles, because in Christian's mind, bro, what a
Speaker 1: job I had. I tried to come out here and
Speaker 1: give this geek a pep talk. I made tons of
Speaker 1: money to stand around ringside. And what really made him
Speaker 1: mad was not only the Jungle Boy had thrown him
Speaker 1: out of the Battle Royal and cost him money there,
Speaker 1: but when Jungle Boy and Lucasaurus lost those titles, man,
Speaker 1: now I actually gotta work. So anyway, he turned on
Speaker 1: Jungle Boy. He did do the line, you know, you
Speaker 1: may want me for a father figure because you need
Speaker 1: a father figure because your father's dead. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I don't need to see this on two shows, but
Speaker 1: I will say, you know, and I'm not defending it,
Speaker 1: but I just want to point out, bro, those fans
Speaker 1: got so so mad at him for that line. I mean,
Speaker 1: that was heat for that line. And then Lucasaurus runs
Speaker 1: out and Jungle Boy says, you know what, you Luca Saurus,
Speaker 1: you were like a son to me. And this actually,
Speaker 1: you know, gives Luca source pause. And so Chris Shin
Speaker 1: goes to have a talk with Luca Saurus and he
Speaker 1: makes sure to wink into the camera so we all
Speaker 1: know he's a horrible person and we will see where
Speaker 1: this goes. But you know, the line about the dead
Speaker 1: father aside, I mean, bro, this was a fantastic promo
Speaker 1: by Christian, Like, this was a fabulous promo because at
Speaker 1: the beginning, you know, he wasn't getting a lot of
Speaker 1: heat at the beginning. Let's be honest, man, these people
Speaker 1: were like rabid by the end of this promo. So anyway,
Speaker 1: this was quite the performance by Christian. But I got
Speaker 1: a lot more I can say about it tonight. Being
Speaker 1: a Scooby Doo villain didn't look well. He always kind
Speaker 1: of dresses like that. But Young Bucks and Kylo Riley backstage,
Speaker 1: and this is when Kyle admitted that he is also
Speaker 1: not medically cleared, and they announced this, this baffling match
Speaker 1: the Young Bucks. Think about the Young Bucks. Dude on
Speaker 1: the Forbidden Door pay per view, I happen what the
Speaker 1: Young Bucks. This is what the Young Bucks ended up with.
Speaker 1: The Young Bucks l Fantasma, who's awesome, and Hikolo, who
Speaker 1: has improved a lot against sting Darby Allen and I
Speaker 1: guess you know, they just said, like your buddies who
Speaker 1: end up being uh Shingo and who's the other one?
Speaker 1: That's right? And literally, literally, if you watched Darby Ellen's promo,
Speaker 1: he did exactly what I did. But he didn't totally
Speaker 1: forget the name. But if you listen to him rattling
Speaker 1: off everybody in this match, he was clearly like told
Speaker 1: about this in the afternoon and he's like, and uh
Speaker 1: Haromo and uh and Shingo are gonna be with us.
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, wow, I mean the match is probably
Speaker 1: gonna be the match is probably gonna be awesome. I
Speaker 1: mean it's probably gonna be like full out awesome. But boy,
Speaker 1: what a weird match. When did they get the names
Speaker 1: dudes with attitudes? Because they didn't say that during the
Speaker 1: show all of a sudden afterwards during the show did
Speaker 1: they know? They may not have. It might have just
Speaker 1: been the graphic. I just remember that shot back in
Speaker 1: the day of the Dynamic dudes. And yes, the dynamic
Speaker 1: dudes of Johnny Ason, Shane Douglas and the Junkyard Dog
Speaker 1: and Tommy Rich and Sting still huddled around after the
Speaker 1: sale they were the dudes with attitudes. And now stay
Speaker 1: it was Sting as the old man in that exchange.
Speaker 1: Now it was. It was absolutely on the graphic. But
Speaker 1: I don't think Darby or Sting ever mentioned that these
Speaker 1: are their dudes with attitude, Dudes with attitudes. Oh no,
Speaker 1: I mean she knows definitely a dude in an attitude.
Speaker 1: Her own was a dude with a different kind of attitude.
Speaker 1: I wish they were dudes with video packages. And I
Speaker 1: know some people are like, I know, it's it's a nitpick,
Speaker 1: and I know a majority I would I would venture
Speaker 1: a majority of the a W fan base has got
Speaker 1: a knowledge of New Japan. But Tamahashi, Okada Horomo, these guys,
Speaker 1: it's like I don't know. I don't know if we've
Speaker 1: gotten maximum impact out of everybody, and everything seems a
Speaker 1: little scattered. This was clearly, this was clearly you know what.
Speaker 1: I don't know for sure. Okay, but how can I
Speaker 1: say this. I have been given the impression, but I
Speaker 1: don't know for sure that when they woke up Wednesday
Speaker 1: it was not this match. I think I think that
Speaker 1: they didn't find out. I think that Kyle was probably
Speaker 1: supposed to be and listen, don't report this because I
Speaker 1: don't know for sure. I'm fitting pieces together here. I
Speaker 1: have this impression that Kyle was probably supposed to be
Speaker 1: in the match, and they found out Wednesday that Kyle
Speaker 1: wasn't cleared, and then they had to throw together whatever
Speaker 1: they threw together out of there with that with that, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that was actually that was actually something different. I don't
Speaker 1: think they found out about Kyle until yesterday. That's the
Speaker 1: impression that I was given. So I think that yesterday
Speaker 1: there was a different match. So for people like you're
Speaker 1: welcome to complain that there were no video package, because
Speaker 1: it is a valid complaint, but it's not like I
Speaker 1: don't think it was because of incompetence and they didn't
Speaker 1: have a video package. I think it was because everything
Speaker 1: changed that day and they just didn't have time to
Speaker 1: get a video package ready for whatever ended up being
Speaker 1: announced later on in the evening. I believe, Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: I believe that to be the case too. I just think,
Speaker 1: you know, overall, they probably haven't done a good job
Speaker 1: driving at home. I don't know. I would assume that
Speaker 1: there's going to be a hype package, you know, half
Speaker 1: hour hype show. We'll have something rampage, and I bet
Speaker 1: you and I bet you whatever they do for that
Speaker 1: hype show, that might be their best one yet because
Speaker 1: you're gonna get so much footage from us PAN driving
Speaker 1: home from Excalibur and everybody else. How good some of
Speaker 1: these guys are. Because I know JR Is trying to
Speaker 1: do his best, because I know he is legitimately impressed
Speaker 1: every time he's seen Tanahashi and Okada. But I just
Speaker 1: I don't think it's enough for some people who are like,
Speaker 1: there's a zillion people I never get to see because
Speaker 1: of the size of this roster. Who are these other guys?
Speaker 1: I'm not that interested in this. You're not making me
Speaker 1: that interested in this? All right? We gotta get through this.
Speaker 1: We had Malachi Black and Penta for the All Atlantic qualifier.
Speaker 1: Penta not allowed to be on the show, and so
Speaker 1: Malachi Black one with a kick, and then we had
Speaker 1: an appearance by everybody in the match except is She
Speaker 1: no video, No appearance by Ish, he was nowhere to
Speaker 1: be seen or lot video package. He still wants Scorpio Sky,
Speaker 1: who in fact also injured. We had Hangman Page versus
Speaker 1: Silas Young in Silas Young he's a local guy and
Speaker 1: so fans got into him the more the match went,
Speaker 1: and the longer it went, and the more he did,
Speaker 1: the more they got into him. And uh, he did
Speaker 1: fall down near the end, but he still jumped up
Speaker 1: on the ropes. He he fought to get that headstand
Speaker 1: and he got it and they popped huge for that,
Speaker 1: but he ended up missing and then Page hit a
Speaker 1: Larry At buckshot. Larry At pinned him and then that's
Speaker 1: when they shot the angle afterwards where Okada made his
Speaker 1: big appearance. And so we have got a four way
Speaker 1: for the I Double d g P title. And man,
Speaker 1: you know say what you will about you know who
Speaker 1: we know and who the audience doesn't know. But bro,
Speaker 1: this audience knew Okada and he got the biggest pop
Speaker 1: of anybody on the show when that coin dropped. Holy smokes,
Speaker 1: they went crazy for Ocada. And that's also like this card.
Speaker 1: Whatever you want to say about the booking, I think
Speaker 1: it's exactly like I said literally on day one. You
Speaker 1: ain't gonna like all the matches like the you know,
Speaker 1: the matches that are put together on paper, But this
Speaker 1: show is gonna be over and it's gonna be an
Speaker 1: awesome show. Tony Store, Marina Schaffer Dave liked this more
Speaker 1: than I did. I thought it was all right. I
Speaker 1: think that Tony needed more. She had that that match
Speaker 1: with Britt that was actually an excellent match, and then
Speaker 1: this one was just it's kind of there. It's hard
Speaker 1: to have a good match with Marina. Tony God damn
Speaker 1: near killed her with that asked in the corner again
Speaker 1: and then Uh ended up rolling her up and pinning her,
Speaker 1: and then we had a kurf fluffle as I like
Speaker 1: to call it, and a stare down with thunder Rosa
Speaker 1: and Uh and Tony storm Rampage Friday. I don't have
Speaker 1: fault Leroy here, so I'll try to say this is
Speaker 1: generically as possible, Hook versus d Casey andrawd A versus
Speaker 1: Ray Phoenix, Serena Deeve and Mercedes Martinez, antag action Jeff
Speaker 1: Cobb versus Cash Wheeler. Moving on main event, John Moxley
Speaker 1: Tona Hashi against Jericho and Lance Archer. There's an excellent
Speaker 1: main event, a lot of brawling with John Moxley and Jericho.
Speaker 1: Uh Tanahashi's in there, and dude, bro this guy is
Speaker 1: old and uh he's barely vaulting over the top rope
Speaker 1: and it's taken a long time to get in position
Speaker 1: for the high fly flow. But dude, he's a legend
Speaker 1: and he knows what to do, and the people were
Speaker 1: into him, and he he pulled everything off. He pulled
Speaker 1: all of it off, and I think him and mox
Speaker 1: are gonna have a great match on Sunday. And uh
Speaker 1: ended up with him getting the high fly flow win
Speaker 1: over Lance Archer. And then afterwards so they had a
Speaker 1: long brawl and Uh, Dave was saying that this is
Speaker 1: the idea of this was like straight out of I
Speaker 1: forget what he said, Mid South or something like that,
Speaker 1: But I actually think they do another long brawl on rampage.
Speaker 1: I think and uh, I think that's the one that
Speaker 1: was supposed to be reminiscent of the old days. This
Speaker 1: was long, but man, I laughed and laughed in a
Speaker 1: in a way where I felt bad for them. Poor
Speaker 1: Tonahashi and Moxley standing in the ring looking at each
Speaker 1: other for five straight minutes. That was wrestling history back
Speaker 1: in a moment Observer Live. Yes, Fujita and Shuzaki thirty
Speaker 1: minutes stare down, So Moxley and Tonahashi, I believe, would
Speaker 1: be in second place for the longest stare down in
Speaker 1: the history of wrestling with those poor guys. And they
Speaker 1: kept cutting to them in the ring, and these poor
Speaker 1: guys start to look at each other at God, the
Speaker 1: plans that looked at the plan was good, you know,
Speaker 1: have a fire, a dumpster fire taking place at ringside,
Speaker 1: carnage everywhere. And then they cut to the shot and
Speaker 1: those two as you close in, are standing above the
Speaker 1: fray ready to face off against each other. Just didn't
Speaker 1: end up turning out that way. Hopefully they have more
Speaker 1: of a banger for however, they closed the show on Friday.
Speaker 1: But from AP reporter to AP reporter, Dennis Gorman just
Speaker 1: let us know about this Teresa Walker, who covers the
Speaker 1: Titans for the ap Down in Tennessee, is also covering
Speaker 1: this Ric Flair final match press conference. And yeah, what
Speaker 1: a press conference. We did a whole press conference. We
Speaker 1: do don't even know where Rick Flair's matches. Rick Flair
Speaker 1: says he's only worried about his pacemaker getting unplugged and
Speaker 1: an inner ear issue for his last match, now set
Speaker 1: for July thirty one. Says he won't take his blood
Speaker 1: thunder medication that day. Yeah, he also said. He also
Speaker 1: said about the pacemaker, he just plug it back in.
Speaker 1: That's you just plug it back in. Sure, Well, you
Speaker 1: make the phone call, you put the phone up to
Speaker 1: the chest, it reads it or whatever. Our with that works.
Speaker 1: You jump in like a car on his I'm not
Speaker 1: making it up, by the way, I'm not making that up.
Speaker 1: They had an entire press conference about Rick Flair's last match,
Speaker 1: and they didn't even tell us what his last match is.
Speaker 1: They may not know yet. I called Muda right now.
Speaker 1: Maybe Muda's on his way over. This is gonna be
Speaker 1: one of his last ones. But yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know, the hell with it, Let's just let's just
Speaker 1: try again tomorrow. Brian, I think we need Hey, I
Speaker 1: try again every day. I never quit and I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna quit after this show when I appear on Denise's program.
Speaker 1: So check that out everybody, And uh, thanks for listening. Thanks,
Speaker 1: Mike has always callers and listeners. I don't want to
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