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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Welcome to Archer Parkin is a

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Speaker 1: beautiful day here New Airfield right next door to us.

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Speaker 1: So clean it up after a good night last night.

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Speaker 1: We hope we have a good day today. I hope,

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Speaker 1: that cup. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to the show. I'm

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Speaker 1: John Murphy. This is Steve Tasker coming here from right

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Speaker 1: next door to New Airfield from our one Buffalo studio

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Speaker 1: in the ed Pro Sports Center next to the Bills Complex.

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Speaker 1: Here for three hours of Bill's talk talking about last

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Speaker 1: night's game. We got a lot to talk about. We're

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Speaker 1: talking about what's to come. A good show coming up here,

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Speaker 1: great Coast. Well, Dean Marlow is going to join us

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Speaker 1: at a moment or who we believe came up with

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Speaker 1: an interception that led to a score in last night's

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Speaker 1: at Lison ors Perry touchdown. We're talking with Dean Marlow

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Speaker 1: at one o'clock. We'll talk with him about last night's game,

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Speaker 1: special treats Stevie Johnson. Steve and I talked to him

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Speaker 1: this weekend. We'll tell you why he's joining us at

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Speaker 1: one thirty. And Chris Brown with his recap on last

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Speaker 1: night's preseason win over the Indianapolis Colts. What a game,

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Speaker 1: What a game it was. It was an interesting night.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't the finally came out over Saw. But I

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Speaker 1: do think, Stephen, I blurted this out to you this

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Speaker 1: brace yourselves, because I've been listening to this all morning.

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Speaker 1: Here we go, like the most memorable moment in Bill's

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Speaker 1: thirty two thirty four years or so, I can't recall

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Speaker 1: That was unbelievable last night. Yep, you can make that argument.

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Speaker 1: much and be that highly anticipated. Gosh, I none, maybe

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen's first snap, but you know it was an

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Speaker 1: It was amazing last night Christian Wade's a sixty five

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Speaker 1: Hid coming in, Man, how are you busy today? You guys?

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Speaker 1: Way darts up the middle, goes sixty five yards for

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo touchdown. I'll bot it. Yeah, how about it?

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Speaker 1: Sixty five yards? And actually it was a great cutback run.

426
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Speaker 1: Looked he wound up going up the middle, but he

427
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Speaker 1: started the old left And well, you're the former rugby

428
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Speaker 1: star Western what did he see and what did he

429
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Speaker 1: get the instincts to see that play play out like

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Speaker 1: that for him as a rugby play. And he said

431
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Speaker 1: in his post came comm as he is. I saw

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Speaker 1: a bunch of guys. It ain't rocket science. When you

433
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Speaker 1: get the ball in your hand, if they're all over there,

434
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Speaker 1: you run over here, you know. And he stuck his

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Speaker 1: foot in the ground and cut up and had to

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Speaker 1: make one more cut after that to the back side

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Speaker 1: of the play. And when he turned it up. I thought, okay,

438
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Speaker 1: they I thought a guy had an angle on him,

439
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Speaker 1: and then he didn't. He just outran him and it

440
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Speaker 1: was a great. It was not it's a nice little run.

441
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Speaker 1: Well blocked up front, no question, but he man, the

442
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Speaker 1: instincts came out. He just turned it up. And it

443
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Speaker 1: was funny too because he took the handoff a little funky. Yeah,

444
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 1: it wasn't a clean crisp pandoff, so you know, he's

445
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Speaker 1: still working on that. But he got it, gathered it in,

446
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,640
Speaker 1: tucked it up high and tight. Man, he was off.

447
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Speaker 1: It was great. What's your biggest takeaway from last night's game?

448
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Speaker 1: Give us a call. That's our Twitter question, no pull today.

449
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Speaker 1: What's your biggest takeaway from last night's twenty four to

450
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Speaker 1: sixteen win by the Bills over the Indianapolis Colts eight

451
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Speaker 1: oh three h five fifty. The number to call locally

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Speaker 1: outside Buffalo one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: Send in a tweet. We can read it on the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet, or let us know what you think. What's

455
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Speaker 1: your biggest takeaway from last night's game? It's simple, let's

456
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Speaker 1: talk about it as we get to the phone calls.

457
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Speaker 1: I think we have one here, teed up Fran in Buffalo.

458
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Speaker 1: Go ahead, Fran, you're on the air with us. Hello, Fran,

459
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Speaker 1: Are you there? Frand's not there? The tweet sheet brought

460
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Speaker 1: you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official movers of the

461
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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills from sipping the kool aid, our is this

462
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Speaker 1: is double exclamation part. Our defensive depth is incredible. When

463
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Speaker 1: we have to cut down to the fifty three man roster,

464
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Speaker 1: McDermott and Bean will have some tough decisions. They will

465
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Speaker 1: have to cut several really good players. You made the point, Steve,

466
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Speaker 1: in our discussion with Dean Marlow that the strong defensive

467
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 1: play continued through the twos thro the threes. For the

468
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Speaker 1: most part, the defense was solid most of the evening

469
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Speaker 1: until it got you know, the only lapse they had

470
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Speaker 1: was on Chad Kelly's bootleg off the right side where

471
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Speaker 1: he got loose for a big, long touchdown run. Other

472
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Speaker 1: than that, they were they were on it, particularly in

473
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Speaker 1: the early going. There was a one point they had

474
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Speaker 1: seven rushes for six yards in the game. They were

475
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Speaker 1: stout up front, the really stout up front, I thought.

476
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Speaker 1: Darryl Johnson, the seventh round draft pick, showed up in

477
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Speaker 1: a way I hadn't seen. I had told you i'd

478
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Speaker 1: seen him covering kicks and he was doing a really

479
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 1: nice job. But last night he got a sack on

480
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Speaker 1: a straight rush, just came off the edge and got

481
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Speaker 1: there and got there in a hurry. So there was

482
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Speaker 1: a lot to like about that game last night. And

483
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Speaker 1: I was telling Dean when it was Dean Marlow was

484
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Speaker 1: here just a moment ago. It was almost the perfect

485
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Speaker 1: for guys like you and me, and for fans who

486
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Speaker 1: were kind of discerning. In my opinion, it was almost

487
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Speaker 1: a perfect scenario for a preseason game. Number one, great

488
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Speaker 1: play for most of the night, nice solid football to watch,

489
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Speaker 1: not too complicated at all, but still plenty of big

490
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Speaker 1: mistakes that are easily correctable, Lots to be optimistic about,

491
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Speaker 1: a lot of things you got to work on. But

492
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Speaker 1: still there was a lot there that really looked like

493
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Speaker 1: they were getting it together. Let's start with the defense,

494
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Speaker 1: and let's hear what John McDermott had to say about

495
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 1: his Buffalo defense as solid. First half of the Buffalo defense.

496
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Speaker 1: They gave up what one decent play in the first half,

497
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Speaker 1: but for the most part they had them locked down.

498
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Speaker 1: I mean the cultimate a first down in their first possession,

499
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Speaker 1: I think their second play, and went three or four

500
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Speaker 1: series without another first down, a lot of three and

501
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Speaker 1: out series. Bills gave up a total of eighty five

502
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Speaker 1: offensive yards in that first half of play, and it

503
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Speaker 1: was pretty amazing. I was strong they were defensively. Sean

504
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Speaker 1: McDermott took note of that when he addressed the media

505
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Speaker 1: after the game. No, there's a certain players I know

506
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Speaker 1: we want back, but had a couple of different situations

507
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Speaker 1: that came up in the game, whether it was a

508
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 1: short field, sudden change. You know, I thought we did

509
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Speaker 1: a good job. They're keeping them off the board, keeping

510
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Speaker 1: them out the end zone. Red zone defense in particular

511
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Speaker 1: was strong in the first half and I think most

512
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Speaker 1: of the way through the third as well. So that

513
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 1: was good to see that. That's a good teachable moment

514
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Speaker 1: for our football team. Yeah, red zone defense the issue

515
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 1: that they talked about here on our show several times

516
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Speaker 1: during the offseason. Red zone defense was solid for the

517
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Speaker 1: first two defensive units. Yet yeah and that and yeah,

518
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: it's you know, you can tell with their focusing on it,

519
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: just like they've told us, they it's been a foot

520
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Speaker 1: point of emphasis for this year's squad. They can one way,

521
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: they can get vastly better. Saw it last night, I

522
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Speaker 1: mean they gave up I think it was one hundred

523
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Speaker 1: and five yards rushing last night, and thirty eight of

524
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Speaker 1: it or thirty five of it was on the one

525
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Speaker 1: run late in the fourth quarter to Chad Gather quarterback

526
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Speaker 1: one five total. Yeah, they played really solidly up front,

527
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Speaker 1: and they had some chances for some flash plays as well.

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Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissette dat dodged Trent Murphy with his arm around

529
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Speaker 1: his waist, and two steps later he dodged Ed Oliver

530
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Speaker 1: with his arm around his waist. So Jacoby Brissette and

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Speaker 1: his athleticism saved him from a sack twice on the

532
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Speaker 1: same play. Yeah, the Bill's defense not too much to

533
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Speaker 1: be upset about, right, I want to talk about some

534
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: of the young defenders draft picks who made their mark

535
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Speaker 1: last night. But let's work in a couple of calls here.

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Speaker 1: We'll start with Fran and Buffalo back again. Fran, Are

537
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Speaker 1: you there this time? A little? Fran? All right? Not

538
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Speaker 1: sure what's going on. We're struggling with our phones this week. Yeah,

539
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: what is the deal with hold? I'm looking I'm all

540
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Speaker 1: set here, I hope, so we'll get it. We're gonna

541
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Speaker 1: we'll be able to take calls at some point in

542
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Speaker 1: the near future. We'll have to. Maybe we're not paying

543
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: our bill back end of the bill's draft. Some defensive picks, right,

544
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Speaker 1: And I thought they acquitted themselves pretty well in last

545
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Speaker 1: night's game. And let's start with some of them. Louting

546
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Speaker 1: A seventh round pick, Daryl Johnson, North Carolina A and

547
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 1: T six seven physical specimen. He's not quite filled out yet,

548
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: got a lot of playing time, right. He was out

549
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: there with the twos and actually worked in with some

550
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: of the ones, made, had a sack, made a playing

551
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: And you said you noticed him in kick coverage earlier, right, which, well,

552
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: I noticed him in training camp during kick on and

553
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: he was on the field for kick coverage last night

554
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 1: as well and running down In fact, he was. He

555
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: was on the field at defense and then started playing.

556
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 1: Had to keep playing punt team as well, so and

557
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 1: punt return team. So he was getting the workout last night.

558
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 1: And I think they're gonna get a real chance to

559
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: evaluate him. I know he was getting It's interesting too,

560
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: because I didn't get a chance to watch him individually.

561
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 1: I just saw him walking off the field after the

562
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Speaker 1: punt team or the special teams. You know, it was

563
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: coming off and I want to I want to see

564
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: the kind of effort he put in after he just

565
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 1: had a really nice defensive series, you know, because that's

566
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 1: it all counts. You gotta turn it up. And Heath

567
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 1: far was going to be watching the kicking game. Yeah,

568
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: and if he's out out there and he's not given

569
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Speaker 1: a full effort and he doesn't care if he was

570
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Speaker 1: on the field for three plays before that, you know,

571
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 1: let's go. And so it's all important. But you know,

572
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Speaker 1: I thought Darryl Johnson was a guy who we found

573
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Speaker 1: out a little something about last night. He flashed, he

574
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: got a sack, he was up there and he was

575
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: had had a batted pass or something like that too.

576
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Speaker 1: I can't remember. He was forcing, he was really for it.

577
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: He had a couple of hurries maybe as well. I mean,

578
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Speaker 1: he was all over the backfield. He really showed up

579
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Speaker 1: big time, and I was I gotta say, I was

580
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: a little surprised by by the fact that he was

581
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Speaker 1: having so much success. I guess in Indianapolis Colt offensive

582
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 1: line that is I think has pretty good depth as well.

583
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Speaker 1: So that's one guy that flashed to me that I

584
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, you know, I like that guy well,

585
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: and so we'll see. And of course he caught my

586
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: eye because of the special team stuff. Earlier in the week.

587
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Speaker 1: He had three tackles, he had his seventh round pick,

588
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: by the way, in his first NFL game, three tackles,

589
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Speaker 1: one sack for eight yard, one tackle for loss, one

590
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: quarterback hit, one pass defense, he tipped a pass. He

591
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: was good. John McDermott. Notice here's what the head coach

592
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: said about Darrel in his first preseason game last night. Yeah,

593
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: that's what you're looking for, young guys that show up,

594
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: guys that aren't necessarily starters. And he showed up. I

595
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: felt him, you know, from the coming off that edge

596
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: and doing different things in the run game as well.

597
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: And that's again just in the first game, positive returns

598
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Speaker 1: from a young player that um, you know, had the

599
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: mental toughness and and you know went out there and

600
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: performed at a high level. And you know, they appreciate

601
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Speaker 1: what he did last night. But as you point out,

602
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: and I think if you're one hundred percent right, they

603
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: need to see more. They're gonna want to see more

604
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna want to see progression in the next three games.

605
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: Progression and consistency. And you got guys who and this

606
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: is what I think about too, if you're end up

607
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: talking in the broadest general terms and it goes all

608
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: the way down to an individual player, particularly young guys,

609
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: because the veterans get this. You want to see it's

610
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: a little bit of it. I always say that use

611
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: the word roller coaster. You'll see a great like Daryl

612
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: Johnson will go out and have a great game like that.

613
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Speaker 1: He'll do all kind and then the next game he'll

614
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: disappear and he'll get man handled and he won't get

615
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: near the quarterback or any of that stuff. Or he'll

616
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Speaker 1: have a big mistake where he lines up wrong and

617
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: does it takes the wrong path or something an egregious mistake.

618
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Speaker 1: You want to see him. Cut the bad plays off

619
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Speaker 1: the bottom of the roller coaster and flatten the line

620
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: out and raise it so you're consistently above where you

621
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: usually play and with no dips in your performance. You

622
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: don't want to have a bad play here and there.

623
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Speaker 1: It's okay to have a play where you don't make

624
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: the play, but you do what you're supposed to do,

625
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: and somebody else does make the play. That's a good play.

626
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: It's okay, make the plays that come to you and

627
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: don't make any egregious mistakes. That's what a pro and

628
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: a veteran does. He's never a liability at any point.

629
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Speaker 1: And these young players they get in there and they'll

630
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Speaker 1: make a flash play once in a while. Then and

631
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Speaker 1: when you're not watching, or we're not watching the game film,

632
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Speaker 1: you won't see the fact that, wow, he made a

633
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Speaker 1: Wow what's he doing over here? Right? It doesn't show

634
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: up in the play because somebody else does what they're

635
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: supposed to do, or it's away from him. But that's

636
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: the kind of thing that a young player will do

637
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: that only film study can kind of show it up,

638
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: and you know what he's supposed to be asked to do,

639
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: and over here he did it, made a great play,

640
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: but he was asked to do something here and he disappeared.

641
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: So consistency, like you said, consistency is crucial because coaches

642
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: love what they know they can count on. That's why

643
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: they bring other players from other teams. That's why a

644
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: guy like Dean Marlow's here, That's why Kurt Coleman is here,

645
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: Sean McDermot knows what those guys are. That's why they

646
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: don't have Lashawn McCoy in the game. He's not a

647
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: question mark. You know that coaches want to know what

648
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: they got, and they don't know what they got. When

649
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: a guy is all over the map, you daver really

650
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: try another call a double dog? Are you all right?

651
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: What's more? Fran and Buffalo? Hello, Fran, go ahead, you're

652
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: on the air. Oh, hey, there you are, Fran, thanks

653
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: for coming up. Hello? Are you there? Where we are? There? Fran? Now,

654
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: Fran can't hear us? And I have done plague? John,

655
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: I know your brother Paul over Buffalo. Yeah, yeah, Paul's

656
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: the North Buffalo guy. How do you know him? Yeah?

657
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: My daughter went to school with his daughters over at

658
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: Saint Rose. Yeah. But anyway, the biggest memory I have

659
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: is back in maybe sixty nine seventy Aames Harris, number twelve,

660
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: the first black quarterback ever to start in the NFL game.

661
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: He ran a fifty five yard quarterback Steve Well in

662
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: a preseason game. Wow, I think it was a preseason game.

663
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: I remember that. We'll getting old here, but season. That's

664
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: a good memory. I bet that where was that home.

665
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: Was it a home game? I think it was a

666
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: home game. I think Van Miller I think it was

667
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: there too, I believe. I guess he would be Yeah,

668
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: that's amazing. Wow, that's looked that up. That was that

669
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: would that would rival this, I guess right back then.

670
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: I mean, it was a big deal for James Harris

671
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: to be a starting quarterback in the NFL. It was it.

672
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: I think that Jack kemp came in and came in.

673
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: They uh, well, he started his first game. And I

674
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: think it was Jack Kemps last year that he came

675
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: in and finished the game for him and James Harris

676
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: went off to a couple other teams. Yeah, yeah, sure

677
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: and stuff. That's a good one, fran. See you gotta

678
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: go all the way back to sixteen, nine seventy for somebody, right,

679
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: but you don't think about that. That would have been big. Yeah,

680
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: first African American player to start at quarterback for a

681
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: team and he snaps off a fifty six yards quarterback.

682
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: I wish I would remember that. Wow, that's amazing, all right,

683
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: fran Yeah, that's got to be in the conversation there

684
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: is marking Town Wan to Hello, Mark, Welcome, You're on

685
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: the air with us. Hey, guys, thanks for having me on. Sure. Um, yeah,

686
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: last night was pretty cool to watch. I'm not buying

687
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: all the Chad Kelly hype. I think he's done quite

688
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: a few things here to kind of embarrass the city.

689
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: But I thought someone that stood on the bills was Thompson.

690
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: I don't know his first name, but he seemed to

691
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: be in on every single play. Thompson Thompson he played

692
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: here last year? Did he? Yeah? Yeah, but it started

693
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: against the Patriots. Had nine tackles at New England back

694
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 1: in December. But I had question was there anything to

695
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: Harrison Phillips. He seemed to be in on every defensive snap,

696
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 1: And I don't know if that was done on purpose

697
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: or what they were trying to do with him last

698
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: night to kind of maybe get him going a little bit,

699
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 1: No question, I noticed the same thing Mark Harrison. Phillips

700
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 1: was in early in the game, and he was also

701
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: in late in the game. He played a lot of

702
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: defensive snaps last night, A defensive tackle. I don't know

703
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: what that says about their rotation or what their plan is,

704
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 1: but there's no doubt they did it on purpose because

705
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: I didn't hear about anybody getting hurt on the defensive line,

706
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: like he was taking somebody else's reps. So I think

707
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: it was part of the plan. But Harrison Phillips, I'll

708
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: agree with you. I noticed late in the game he

709
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 1: was in in the fourth quarter playing a defensive tackle spot. Yeah. Hey,

710
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: I heard what the callers said about Jed Kelly, and

711
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: I understand that, I guess, But I thought Jed Kelly

712
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: was pretty solid last sight, and I was happy for him.

713
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: You know, he needs to he needs to rebound. He

714
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: needs to be a reclamation project here. And the way

715
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: he played, I think he took steps forward. The run

716
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 1: was great, but I just thought he was delivering the

717
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: ball with accuracy and with some authority, and I think

718
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: it was a good ounting for check Kelly. You can see,

719
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 1: in fact, my radio partner Eric Woodtoker about it. You

720
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: can see why first Clemson and then Old Miss wanted him.

721
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 1: He's got a real live arm and he showed it

722
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: last night. So I was happy for him. I was

723
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: happy for check Key, and the Kelly family is happy

724
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: to see Jim there enjoying it. I have the other

725
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: I've been around, not quite as long as you, but

726
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: a long time I've known a lot of people who

727
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: I really admired and loved who were train wrecks in

728
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: parts of their lives. I cheer. I cheer for him

729
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 1: because I will admit it. I cheer for Buffalo people,

730
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 1: whether their train wrecks or not, whether their ups or downs.

731
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: I have feel connection to him. Chad Kelly's a kid

732
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: that I watched play as a prep star here in Buffalo.

733
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: He had problems then, and we here in Buffalo know

734
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: about him more so than anybody else around the country.

735
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 1: Even you go out to Denver, we know more about

736
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 1: Chad than they do. I'm cheering for him, and I'm

737
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: not gonna apologize for it. I've been I've been around

738
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: the blocks too many times myself to be looking at him,

739
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: let alone, you know, cheering against him. So yeah, I

740
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 1: cheer for him. I hope, I hope he puts together

741
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 1: a really nice pro career, if not a great pro career.

742
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: And I get it, some people are, you know, down

743
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: on because he got so many chances for whatever reason,

744
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: and maybe they didn't get a second chance just once

745
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: in their life. And I know it's not fair like that,

746
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: But I said last night on the broadcast one of

747
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: the reasons he's gotten so many opportunities is it's twofold one.

748
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: He's got some ability. And we've all seen that throughout sports,

749
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: in every sport, if a guy's got some abilities, they're

750
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: gonna give him a second chance, third chance, fifth chance.

751
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: And the second thing is and the thing that a

752
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: lot of people don't realize that when it's in a

753
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: football field, actors field, or whatever. Even when he's not

754
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: on the football field, he works extremely hard. He's a

755
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: really hard worker on the field. He works hard in practice,

756
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 1: he works hard in the weight room. When his football related,

757
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: He's pretty committed, and he gets the most out of

758
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: his abilities. Those that's why he keeps getting chances. And

759
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: I know people have a problem with seeing people go

760
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: through the trials and tribulations that Chad has gone through

761
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: through his life, and they say, why does he keep

762
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: getting chances? Why does he keep getting chances? For me,

763
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: I'm not like that. I've gotten a chance or two

764
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: in my life and i've and I've tried not to

765
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 1: get into position where I needed a second chance or

766
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: a third chance. So I'm pulling for him, and it's

767
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 1: just like I pulled for everybody who's struggled in their life.

768
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: I thought he played well, didn't you overall very well?

769
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say well. I thought he played very well.

770
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: He might have been. I might have liked him better

771
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: than any the other guy, including Jacoby Pursett. I mean,

772
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: Jacoby didn't ask get As to throw the football around

773
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: very much. But Chad Kelly had better production other quarterback

774
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: that they put out there. Of course he was it

775
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: was the fourth quarter of the first preseason game, so

776
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,919
Speaker 1: he wasn't playing against Ed Oliver and Starlow to Lela

777
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: or Trent Murphy and those guys. But he played with

778
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: the guys who are out there. He looked as good

779
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: as anybody they had taken snaps. Let's take a call

780
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 1: here from Jim in Marilla. Hello, Jim in Marilla, you're

781
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: on the air with this. How you doing, gentlemen? Doing well?

782
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that you can clarify something that I heard

783
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: on WBEAN News this morning about Christian ways. What I

784
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: heard this morning was the Christian way. Is that some

785
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: kind of a program whereby he's not eligible to play

786
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 1: in the NFL on our team. And I can't explain

787
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 1: it anymore what I heard, But can you clarify what

788
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: his position is as far as being eligible or if yeah,

789
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: you know, I looked it up and here he's he

790
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,479
Speaker 1: does not count as part of the ninety man roster.

791
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: Now he's ninety one, the Bills get an exemption for him.

792
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: He is carried on that exemption until the end of

793
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: camp final cutdown day. If he does not make the

794
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: fifty three man roster, and he can, he can be

795
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: named to the fifty fifty three minion roster in the

796
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: final cuts. But if he is not, the Bills get

797
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 1: an international player practice squad exemption. They can keep him

798
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: as an eleventh practice squad player and he cannot play

799
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: for any other on any other team's active roster in

800
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, so he can make the team. Willie, I

801
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 1: don't know what I hear's the thing, and I yeah,

802
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 1: he could make the team if he plays well, and

803
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: if if he every time he touches the ball he

804
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: runs for a sixty five yard touchdown, he's gonna make

805
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 1: the team. But if if he doesn't make the team,

806
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: I from the rumblings I've heard and the thoughts they

807
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: have about him, they're gonna keep him around all year

808
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 1: on the practice squad because he's a free he's an

809
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: extra roster spot, and obviously he's got some ability, so

810
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: they're gonna try their best to develop him and get

811
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: him good enough to play in the NFL on the

812
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: regular roster a year from now. We're going to Carolina

813
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: this next next week, and they have a player who

814
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: was on the same program, who Christian Wade knows very well.

815
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: And I cannot remember the kid's name. Now. I covered

816
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: the Panthers last year in a game where he came

817
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: in and it was his first NFL game. He had

818
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: been on their practice squad for a year and then

819
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: from He's from London, Okay, But his story was and

820
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: I cannot remember his name and Ogba No, that's not right.

821
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: I'll look it up. He came Obada, that's it, Fie Obada, Okay.

822
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: He came in from London. Now, his mom and he

823
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: were from and I want to get the country. I

824
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: think it was from Ethiopia. They and then they were

825
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 1: in Switzerland and he emigrated to London and was part

826
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: of a scam that was trafficking human beings. He was

827
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: a victim of human afficking just so they would these

828
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: people would get a fee for taking you to another

829
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: country and then abandoned you. He was a kid abandoned

830
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: on the streets of London. He fell into their social

831
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: services program, finally got corral and taken in and taken

832
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 1: care of and went through was like a soccer player

833
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: and rugby player, got into football, got into the international

834
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: path Player Pathway program for the NFL, ended up with

835
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: it Carolina Panthers for a year on their practice squad,

836
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: and then his first game he came out and got

837
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: two sacks in the game that I covered. Wow, he

838
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: knows Christian Wade, and that's probably one of the things

839
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: that inspired Christian Wade to say, maybe I should give

840
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: that a shot. So that's the kind of player that

841
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: Christian Wade could be and kind of wants to be.

842
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: That path toward an NFL career. He walked away from

843
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: a very nice rugby career, an international rugby career, and

844
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 1: now Christian Wade's gonna be over here. And I don't

845
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: know if you heard Christian Wade's thoughts after the game.

846
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: He didn't know what to do after he scored the touchdown.

847
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 1: He thought he maybe jump in and had to touch

848
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: the ball down like you do in rugby, and he

849
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: had to go back out for the try because in rugby,

850
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: when you touch the ball in the end zone, you

851
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 1: go straight out from that point and that's where you

852
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: try to try from, whether it's if it's off of

853
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: the side, you got to go all the way to

854
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: the sideline to kick the try. So he didn't know

855
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: what to do. So he that's how much he's got

856
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: to learn. So a year on a practice squad that

857
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: with the NFL would do wonders for his ability to

858
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,919
Speaker 1: feel comfortable when he's out there and do more things

859
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: for the team. Taking a handoff and running is one thing,

860
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 1: but pass blocking, route running, pass catching, pass pro that's

861
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 1: all stuff he needs to learn. So yeah, it's an

862
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: enormous program that the NFL is a part of. There's

863
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: a lot of guys who were kind of trying to

864
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: take part at it. They have tryouts. If the guy's

865
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: athletic enough, he goes to the pool, the team will

866
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: look at him and saying, hey, okay, we'll take him.

867
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: And the Buffalo Bills did that with Christian Wade. We're

868
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 1: gonna hear from Christian Wade his comments in the locker

869
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: room when we return, Come on back for that One

870
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health. From One Bill's Drive,

871
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Snap out of the gun.

872
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: Barkley takes a long look, hocks his arm, rolls rights,

873
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 1: tide right, took at the right side, and his in touchdown.

874
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: Cam Phillips catches the touchdown pass in the back corner

875
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: of the end zone. Matt Barkley took his time and

876
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: finally found him for an eight yard touchdown. First score

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880
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: with a nice catch work. Kind of recapping last night's game,

881
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 1: we talked a lot about Christian Wade and he talked

882
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: to the media after the game. Here's what he had

883
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: to say in the locker room last night. First ever

884
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: touch as a football player, and it parted like the

885
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 1: red Sea for you. Yeah, it was crazy, fussy, I

886
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: was out in there. But to me, because of the

887
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: way that training instructed to me, like it's kind of

888
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: like all the same because we wrapped it in training

889
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: and like learned about the reads and like what to

890
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: do if this happens and go through the different scenarios

891
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,919
Speaker 1: for me when I was in the game today, that's

892
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 1: exactly what I tried to fold through it. But yeah,

893
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: it opened up like he said, I kind of I

894
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: knew where I was going even before the ball came

895
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 1: because they overloaded one side, So I was like, I'm

896
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: definitely going up there. And as soon as I got

897
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: the ball, I was off to the races and I

898
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: was looking up the screen to see if any of

899
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: the linebackers as anyone was coming up behind me, because

900
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: I know you got the best athletes in the world here,

901
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 1: like just as fast as any running backs and wide receivers.

902
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: So I was making sure I'll protect my tail and

903
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: just just trying to get to the end zone. Did

904
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: you know what you're gonna do once you got there,

905
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:49,959
Speaker 1: Like if you have in your mind free planting anything

906
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: like that. I did. I had it all planned out.

907
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 1: I was. I was like, when I get to the

908
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 1: end zone, I'm gonna put the ball down like Rugby.

909
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: I was thinking I might even dive like Rugby, and

910
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: I thought I could hurt myself away his pads um.

911
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, once I got closer, I just slowed down

912
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: and then I turned around because I'm so used to

913
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: like the conversion in rugby, and I was just like

914
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 1: running back to the halfway and getting ready to go again.

915
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: I was kind of like looking around like I didn't

916
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: know what to do. Everyone was celebrating and I was

917
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 1: like trying to celebrate but thinking about like what am

918
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: I supposed to do next? And everyone's like come off

919
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: the fid so like ran over and I was like, um,

920
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: but yeah, I was. It was like the best feel

921
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: in the world. Yeah, everyone's going crazy, man, I was.

922
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: I was. I wasn't surprised, but yeah, it was just

923
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: I think everyone was kind of surprised that happened. I

924
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: was seeing my first touch and it was just an incredible,

925
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: incredible moment for me. Yeah wow, I just I just

926
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: trying to learn from the boys, man, from the boys. Easy.

927
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: I went back to the bench and like, because some

928
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: of my stuff going on and it's a little new

929
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: to me, I was, like I said, I was trying

930
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: to be happy by at the same time trying to

931
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: think about like what what have I got to do next?

932
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: Like on my own special teams, Um, what's the next play?

933
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: Because it's the way we were centibating is like, is

934
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: the end of the game. We just won? And I

935
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,720
Speaker 1: was like like, I was like, yeah, it was centerbated

936
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: by at the same time like yeah, like like get

937
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: away from you. Let me try and focus. Let me

938
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: try and focus because I don't want to mess up

939
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: the next play or miss my opportunity to go back

940
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: on the field. So yeah, Well, a great guy, Christian Way.

941
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: We had him on the show, I want to say,

942
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: in May, and he was he was nervous, he was shy,

943
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: and just to see him relaxed and happy like that

944
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: last night in the locker room was pretty cool. Um.

945
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: And you know, the run was great, the moment was great.

946
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: The reaction by his teammates to me was just as great,

947
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: just as I was supposed to. Spectacular faces everybody. I mean,

948
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: it was amazing. It was an amazing moment. I've never

949
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: seen anything like it. It was a moment um I well,

950
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: you and I haven't witnessed. Um. And it was a

951
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: great run, great play, well blocked and he did he

952
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: took in the house. And not for nothing. He's got

953
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 1: some some wheels, you know he is. He his instincts

954
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: were right on point. He did it like he'd been

955
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 1: doing it all his life. You didn't You couldn't tell

956
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: that was the first time he'd ever touched a football

957
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: in any kind of game, not not when he was

958
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 1: eight years old, like so many American kids, and when

959
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 1: you've been doing it since you were eight, nine, ten

960
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: years old. That's the first time he's ever put a

961
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: helmet on in a real game. And he looked like

962
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: he'd been doing it for a long long time. And

963
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: good for him. It was. It was a special moment,

964
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: and I think a testament to the to the club

965
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: and the guys in the locker room and the coaching staff.

966
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: They all realized what a special moment it was. Take

967
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: one call on Christian Wade from marketing Hamberg. Go ahead, Mark,

968
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: you're on the air. How you doing, guys? Okay? Great.

969
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: Enjoyed the game last night, especially that moment with Christian Wade.

970
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, if they're looking for other things for him

971
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 1: to learn, try him unpunked or kickoff return. I mean

972
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: in rugby there their heads up and they're looking to

973
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: avoid players and so on and so forth. It sounds

974
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: like it'd be right up his alley as far as

975
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 1: his skill set goes. Yeah, you're right. That would be

976
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: an awesome attempt to give him a little more. Yeah,

977
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: you're right. And here's the thing too though, I mean, Mark,

978
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: I had to say it, but when you get on

979
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: special teams in the NFL, all the rules get thrown

980
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:35,240
Speaker 1: out and there's a whole separate rulebook for special teams,

981
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: and I can imagine the different set of rules and

982
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 1: how it's different from because it would be different than rugby,

983
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: even though the instincts would be the same. That may

984
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: overload him a little bit. Certainly, he's got the skills

985
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: of the abilities and the skill set to catch a

986
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: ball out of the air and start running with it,

987
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: but the rule changes in the alignments and what to expect,

988
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: the fair catch, the ability to fair catch it, and

989
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 1: everything that's involved in that. They're trying to get this

990
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: guy to learn how to take a handoff. Right. He

991
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: didn't even know what to do after he'd scored the touchdown. Um,

992
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 1: he's you know, he's really a novice, So to put

993
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: more on his play, I think they're trying to make

994
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 1: it as simple as they can for him. But I

995
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: don't think there's any doubt Mark, You're right. At some

996
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 1: point down the line. To me, he's screaming kickoff returner

997
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: and and punt returner. I mean, that's that's right in

998
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: his wheelhouse of what he already does well. And I

999
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: think and I thought the same thing, and I'm interested

1000
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:41,439
Speaker 1: to hear you. I guess I agree. It's just there's

1001
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: a lot, you know, he's got a lot on his

1002
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: plate now. If you put him back their returning kicks,

1003
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: he's got a different set of decisions to make that

1004
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: he doesn't know about now. Right, that's right, and that

1005
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: that might be a little bit much to ask of

1006
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: a guy. Yeah, and I'm not limited experience. I'm not

1007
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: gonna say they don't think he can do it at all.

1008
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying this though. I know this. When I returned

1009
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: Punch late in my career, I felt like, Man, the

1010
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: whole team is playing really good. I'm the only guy

1011
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: here that could mess the whole thing up with one mistake. Right,

1012
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: And I don't think he Christian Wade would know that.

1013
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: He wouldn't have realized it, which is probably a good

1014
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:16,439
Speaker 1: thing in some ways, but the coaching staff certainly realizes it. Yeah,

1015
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: And if they put a guy out there who's not

1016
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: really ready or mentally prepared or understands enough about that

1017
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: they might hesitate, But you're right, his skill set is

1018
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 1: right there. Who wasn't a couple of years ago, final

1019
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: game of the season, Bills at the Jets, and who

1020
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: wasn't just let the ball drop at the one yard

1021
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: line Jets recover. That's the kind of play though that Yeah,

1022
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 1: and that's by an American born football player. I can't

1023
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: remember who that was. I've tried to block that out

1024
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: of It's a different world, man, Huh. Yeah, it's a

1025
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: different world. I think special teams that they and you

1026
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: literally just throw the rule book, that rule book over

1027
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: there for down and distance, first and tent and you

1028
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,720
Speaker 1: over here to punt team, punt return, kickoff, kickoff return,

1029
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: and it's a completely different rule book that's almost just

1030
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: as thick. Yeah, all right, a breakcare great Seal's gonna

1031
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: join us. Coming up after the top of the hour

1032
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 1: break talk about last night's Bills game. We'll take a

1033
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: look around the rest of the NFL preseason, the games

1034
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: eleven total last night. Yeah, that was Mike Gillisy who

1035
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: made that bonehead move? You remember that? All right, We're

1036
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: coming back with more another hour ago, two hours ago,

1037
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: actually One Bill's Live, presented by Collat of Health from

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00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:35,280
Speaker 1: One Bill's Driving. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Oh Ns

1039
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: down to downs Dons, Buffalo Time. Welcome back hour to

1040
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: John Murphy's Teeth. Can we're debating after one hour debating

1041
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: the quality of our show here so far, we still

1042
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: have time to salvage it that two hours left. It's fatigue, really, right,

1043
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: it's fatigue. You worked last night when we broadcast the game.

1044
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: I was on TV radio. Obviously, radio is harder. You go,

1045
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: you go get you get out a little later than everybody.

1046
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 1: I'm in the tail end of the traffic. You go home.

1047
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: You are wired. I mean, you cannot lay down. And

1048
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: so I watched the Arizona game whoever there where, I

1049
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: can't even remember who they were playing last night, and

1050
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: I was just Chargers, Chargers, Yeah, Arizona Chargers game. And

1051
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: you just watch I mean, you sit there and right

1052
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: and I watched your game in then a little bit

1053
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 1: of Arizona. Yo watches a lot of games. He's our

1054
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: next guest. He is an executive producer in Analysts of

1055
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: NFL Matchup on ESPN, longtime senior producer at NFL Films,

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Speaker 1: A frequent guest of the show, a friend of the show,

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Speaker 1: Greg Cosell, on the line with us. Hello, Greg, you

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Speaker 1: you stayed up all night watching video. You're not complaining

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Speaker 1: about fatigue, are yet? Well? I actually went to the

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Speaker 1: Eagles game, but truth be told, I left at halftime.

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, guys, there's no whining in football.

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Speaker 1: Come on, as you're tired, what's tired at the football seat?

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Speaker 1: You're right, You're right. I just mentioned to Steve I'm

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Speaker 1: not in condition. That's all I felt. The show has

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Speaker 1: been a little bit disjointed, but we got time to

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Speaker 1: pull together, and we're counting on you to do this

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Speaker 1: for us. Greg, what you may, I'm ready to go.

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Speaker 1: You know, what do you make of the Bill's victory

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Speaker 1: preseason game number one, last name? What'd you take from it? Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean I watched various things. You know. Look, I'll

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Speaker 1: be totally honest. It's it's hard to watch every single

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Speaker 1: snap of every preseason game. But I watched all of

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen's plays. I watched Devin Singletterry. I took a

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Speaker 1: peck of Tyree Jackson because I watched him quite a

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Speaker 1: bit coming out of Buffalo. I obviously wanted to see

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Speaker 1: Ed Oliver. I took a pretty long look at Darryl

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Speaker 1: Johnson because I watched him, believe it or not, when

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Speaker 1: he was at North Carolina A and T. And I

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Speaker 1: really liked him and I thought he really flashed. We'll

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Speaker 1: discuss that more. Of course, I watched both Sean Joseph

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Speaker 1: and then I made it through some other quarterbacks who

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Speaker 1: played around the league. So so we have a bit

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Speaker 1: to talk about. Where do you want to start. Let's

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Speaker 1: start with Daryl Johnson. We were talking about him ordering

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Speaker 1: the show, and you're right. He was seventh round draft

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Speaker 1: pick and he's been running with the twos or threes

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Speaker 1: in practice and then he gets in the game against

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Speaker 1: the coltson he probably had as a productive day at

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Speaker 1: defensive end as anybody, Steve, You're right, And what I

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Speaker 1: did is I just pulled up my notes from when

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Speaker 1: I watched him in North Carolina A and T. Because

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Speaker 1: I was curious what I said. It's been a long time,

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Speaker 1: and after I watched him with the Bills, I went

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Speaker 1: back and I wanted to see what did I say,

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Speaker 1: because I remember liking him, and I said that he

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Speaker 1: was a very intriguing day three prospect with a desirable

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Speaker 1: combination of size, length, and natural quickness that sometimes he

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Speaker 1: has a tendency to play high, but the baseline traits

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Speaker 1: are there for him to develop into an effective NFL

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Speaker 1: edge rusher, and I think we saw some of that

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Speaker 1: last night. He showed the strength to both take on

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Speaker 1: blocks and playoff contact in the run game. I thought

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Speaker 1: he showed a nice speed to power rush. He used

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Speaker 1: his arms very well, really good arm extension and lower

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Speaker 1: body drive. Then he showed that countermove that kind of

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Speaker 1: club swim arm over which even though he didn't get

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Speaker 1: a sack on it, it was really effective against the

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Speaker 1: right tackle. The other thing that really stood out to me,

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Speaker 1: and this is really good for a young player, is

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Speaker 1: I thought he played with great discipline in the zone

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Speaker 1: read run game. He really understood his role and responsibility.

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Speaker 1: He didn't chase, he stayed right where he should. He

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Speaker 1: actually made a tackle on that play as well. And

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Speaker 1: there were a number of those plays where he played

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Speaker 1: with great discipline. Yeah, I noticed too, And of course

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Speaker 1: I was watching from the broadcast ind of it, So

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Speaker 1: when he flashed over when he made one of the

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Speaker 1: plays he made, I took notice he knocked. He got

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Speaker 1: in on a hard kind of a bull rush where

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Speaker 1: he got in and deflected the pass right out of

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Speaker 1: the quarterback's arm right in the pocket. The sack that

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Speaker 1: he got early on was on a hard move to

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Speaker 1: the inside on a stunt with his defensive tackle mate

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Speaker 1: where he came all the way across from the outside

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Speaker 1: and ran all the way in around the center and

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Speaker 1: still got there. So it was great speed that he

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Speaker 1: made and also a small gap he went through. He

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Speaker 1: just showed athleticism as well as the ability. He kind

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Speaker 1: of had a nose for where the quarterback was. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're that stunt. You hit it right on

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Speaker 1: the head. It was a t stunt meeting tackle goes

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Speaker 1: first and the end loops around, and he was the end,

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Speaker 1: so he was the looper. But I thought he showed

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Speaker 1: balance and body control. And you know in those situations,

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Speaker 1: you know, Steve, when you come hard off the tackles

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Speaker 1: rear end, so to speak, you know, you have to

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Speaker 1: be able to bend, you've got to have balance, and

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Speaker 1: you've got body can have to body control to then

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Speaker 1: sort of straighten and close, and he really did a

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Speaker 1: nice job with that. I was very very impressed with

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Speaker 1: his performance. It's only one preseason game, Greg, But on

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Speaker 1: Daryl Johnson, seventh round pick, what could this year's ceiling

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Speaker 1: be for him? I mean, could he be a regular

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Speaker 1: part of the defensive line rotation? Is that what we

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Speaker 1: should look for? Well, look, I'm one of those believers

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Speaker 1: that you have to be careful about over analyzing preseason games.

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Speaker 1: But we're talking about traits. We're not necessarily saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: this is something he's going to do every week from

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Speaker 1: a production standpoint. But I think you guys know he'll

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Speaker 1: get an opportunity because this team is looking for edge

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Speaker 1: pass rushers. I mean, you know, other than use. You know,

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Speaker 1: Shack Lawson has not proven to be that guy, and

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Speaker 1: I don't think he is that guy. So I think

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Speaker 1: they're looking for another edge player. And you know, I

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Speaker 1: think once you start getting into camp and Steve, look,

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Speaker 1: you played a long time in the league, coaches are

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Speaker 1: not worried about who the first round pick or the

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Speaker 1: second round pick is. They're looking for production because their

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Speaker 1: jobs are on the line, and Daryl Johnson's going to

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Speaker 1: get an opportunity to show that he belongs, even if

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Speaker 1: he's a sub package player in play twenty snaps a game.

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Speaker 1: If he can continue this kind of production, with these

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Speaker 1: kinds of trades, he'll get an opportunity, all right, one

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Speaker 1: of the guy that had an opportunity. Everybody was kind

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Speaker 1: of waiting with bated breath. And you may not care,

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Speaker 1: the coaches may not care who the number one draft

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Speaker 1: pick is, but we do what. You know, it's interesting

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Speaker 1: because I thought he had a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: tough time. He was matched against Quinton Nelson on a

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Speaker 1: lot of snaps, and you know, he struggled a little bit. Look,

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Speaker 1: I think he's at his best off movement, whether he's slanting,

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Speaker 1: whether he's penetrated. He's not built to take on double

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Speaker 1: team blocks. But of course in this league he's going

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Speaker 1: to have to take on some double team blocks. That's

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Speaker 1: part of being a three technique defensive tackle. So you know,

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Speaker 1: he's going to have to learn how to use his hands.

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Speaker 1: He's going to have to be a master technique player

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Speaker 1: to playoff strength because he's only two hundred eighty eighty

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Speaker 1: five pounds. He's not going to be three ten or

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Speaker 1: three fifteen, so he's going to have to learn how

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Speaker 1: to play with great hand usage and great technique so

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Speaker 1: that he can play off contact and begin because obviously

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Speaker 1: he's got great athletic ability, but on every play or

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Speaker 1: not just penetrating into a gap. Greg, we're with Greg

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Speaker 1: Cosel by the Way, executive producer analysts NFL Matchup on

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Speaker 1: the ESPN talking about some of the Bills performances last night,

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Speaker 1: and again when we were talking about the seventh round

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Speaker 1: or a minute ago, the fifth round of a Sean

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Speaker 1: Joseph yes against twos and threes. But I thought he

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Speaker 1: had good moments last night, the Bills linebacker, the selection

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Speaker 1: from Florida. I thought he played well. Yeah, It'll be

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Speaker 1: interesting how they see him because he's not a big guy.

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Speaker 1: He's a speed and range guy. He almost has the

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Speaker 1: build of a safety in this particular defense to me,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know how Sean McDermott and Leslie Fraser

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Speaker 1: see him, but in this defense, to me, he's essentially

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Speaker 1: in the Matt Milano role. And I don't think he's

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Speaker 1: going to beat him out. But that's the kind of

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Speaker 1: player I think he is. I think that ultimately he's

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Speaker 1: a speed range player. He's an explosive athlete. He can

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Speaker 1: play sideline to sideline. You saw some of that movement

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Speaker 1: last night. There were a couple of times he got caught.

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Speaker 1: He you know, he didn't read the right thing and

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Speaker 1: was a step behind. That can come with experience, but

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Speaker 1: to me, that's the kind of player he is. Anybody

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Speaker 1: else about the Buffalo Bills, you said we watched with

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Speaker 1: bated breath a little bit how Josh Allen did. But

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Speaker 1: we also watched Tyree Jackson, the ub kid, the quarterback,

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Speaker 1: big tall, sixty seven. He showed some obviously his arm

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Speaker 1: strength and some athleticism. Did you see anything else about him?

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Speaker 1: He's got a ways to go. I mean, I thought

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Speaker 1: he dropped his eyes a number of times. I thought

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Speaker 1: he broke down too often when there was no pressure,

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Speaker 1: when the read was not defined, you know, his his

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Speaker 1: primary was not defined. I think he's got a ways

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Speaker 1: to go in the nuances of the position. He made

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Speaker 1: a great throw to McKenzie on the cross around third

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Speaker 1: and seven, where he hit his back foot, knew where

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Speaker 1: he was going, so he made a great throw. They

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Speaker 1: ran the real nice rpo. He did a nice job

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Speaker 1: with that where he hit a talbridge for twenty one yards.

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Speaker 1: He's a little imprecise with his ball placement, so you know,

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Speaker 1: I think it's the reason he was a late round pick.

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Speaker 1: You see the size at times, you see the arm.

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Speaker 1: He's got movement ability. But I think he has a

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Speaker 1: lot of work to do in the details and nuance

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Speaker 1: of the position, because ultimately, it's a very disciplined craft

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Speaker 1: and I think he's got a way to go there. Great,

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Speaker 1: let's go to the number one guy at that position

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Speaker 1: on the dep chart. Josh Allen played a couple of series.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how much you could get from his performance,

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Speaker 1: But what did you see? What do you take from it? Well, actually,

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Speaker 1: I was were interested in what the Bills did, which

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Speaker 1: I didn't know till I put the tape on the

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Speaker 1: way they lined up in what we call ten personnel

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Speaker 1: with one back and four wide receivers a number of

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Speaker 1: times when Josh was in the game, and I thought

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Speaker 1: that was interesting. I don't know, I assume that'll be

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Speaker 1: something they do during the regular season if they feel

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Speaker 1: good about their receivers. They do have a pretty deep

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Speaker 1: core of receivers now, so I'm anxious to see who

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Speaker 1: ultimately makes the team besides the obvious ones. You know,

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Speaker 1: the only throw that bothered me two throws bothered me

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Speaker 1: with Josh. One is he missed m Zay Jones on

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Speaker 1: a curl possession. Yeah, and you know you gotta make

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Speaker 1: that throw. It's a routine NFL throw. He's wide open

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Speaker 1: and he just got to make that throw. Then he

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Speaker 1: actually came back on third and four on the next

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Speaker 1: possession and he did hit Jones on the curl, but

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Speaker 1: he was just a beat late and Jones got hammered

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Speaker 1: because of it. And you know those can often be

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Speaker 1: in completions when the defenders allowed to hammer your receivers. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, just the poor ball placement on one third

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Speaker 1: down and being late on another third down. I think

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Speaker 1: those are the kinds of things we've talked about that

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Speaker 1: Josh needs to work on with Great Cosell. He is

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Speaker 1: the executive producer analyst NFL Matchup on ESPN. Talking about

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Speaker 1: it last night's Bills game, second were talking about at Oliver.

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Speaker 1: Second round pick Cody Ford had an interesting night. He

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Speaker 1: had practiced all week at the guard and last night

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Speaker 1: he played guard and tackle, which I think is a

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Speaker 1: good signed. The coaching staff obviously feels like they want

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Speaker 1: to see more of him, right, get him exposure to

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Speaker 1: both both and I thought I liked what I saw.

1265
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 1: I think in the run game, you know, the way

1266
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: I see it, My guess is, and again, there's a

1267
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 1: lot of training camp left in a lot of preseason games. Um,

1268
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 1: I think with who they started on the right side,

1269
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 1: with Ford at guard and a second at right tackle,

1270
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: you guys would know better, But I think that I'll

1271
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 1: probably be the starting right side. Does that seem the

1272
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: way it'll be to you? It's it's looking like that, yeah,

1273
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, because I think, yeah, I think they'll

1274
01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 1: be really good running gap schemes stuff to that side,

1275
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 1: pulling Spain who'll be the left guard, and then letting

1276
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 1: Ford and Nissecki do the double team blocks. They did

1277
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 1: that a couple of times with when Singletary got in

1278
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 1: the game. I can't remember if it was Nissecki at

1279
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 1: that point, but it was certainly Ford at right guard.

1280
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 1: And you know, I think that with Ford and Nissecki

1281
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: double teaming in the gap scheme, run game, running power counter,

1282
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 1: I think that's a pretty formidable right side there for

1283
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 1: that kind of run. But I liked what I saw

1284
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 1: from Ford. I thought he was good in the run game.

1285
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 1: I thought he passed protected well, you know again, it's

1286
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 1: first game. But you know, I think I mean, look,

1287
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 1: this kid was thought of as a pretty highly rated prospect.

1288
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: I talk to some old line coaches who liked him

1289
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 1: as well, so I think that's a positive. I guess

1290
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 1: I'm interested in why they would look at him a

1291
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 1: tackle where he had practiced for the first week and

1292
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 1: your opinion, Great, where do you think his future lize? Tackle? Guard?

1293
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 1: Does it matter? Well, he played right tackle at Oklahoma.

1294
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 1: You know, maybe they see him down the road to tackle.

1295
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 1: Maybe their uncertain as to Niseki at right tackle. Don't

1296
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 1: know the answer to that. You know, that's what the

1297
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 1: rest of training campus for. You know, they still have Teller,

1298
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 1: who played with either the second or and even the

1299
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 1: third unity, but last year started six or seven games.

1300
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, maybe they're just trying to figure out. Look,

1301
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 1: every every O line coach will tell you they want

1302
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 1: to start their best five, So maybe they're just trying

1303
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 1: to figure out who their best five are and with

1304
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 1: the feeling that Ford can be part of that, either

1305
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 1: at guard or at tackle. Yeah, Well, one of the

1306
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 1: reasons they're gonna they want to get their best five

1307
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 1: on the field is because they're gonna have four of

1308
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 1: the five are gonna be new from last year because

1309
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 1: they couldn't run the football. They did run, try to

1310
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:44,919
Speaker 1: run the football. And one guy who flashed a little

1311
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: bit in the run game for the Bills was their

1312
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 1: third round running back Devin single Arry showed some vision,

1313
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 1: had some pretty nice runs. What do you think of

1314
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 1: his performance? Yeah, and I thought it was really interesting

1315
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 1: when he came in. Boy, they lined up with two backs,

1316
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 1: two tight ends. They put him in this straight eye formation,

1317
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 1: and they wanted to see if they could just run

1318
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 1: with some power, and uh, you know, and Singletary, Look,

1319
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 1: we kind of know what he is. I mean Singletary is.

1320
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 1: He's showed patience, he showed decisive short area burst. He's

1321
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: got elusiveness, he's shifty. I think he's got I think

1322
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 1: he runs hard. I don't know if he'll be powerful

1323
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 1: at the NFL level because of his size, but he

1324
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 1: runs hard. He's got it. He's a slashing style of runner.

1325
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 1: He certainly got a downhill mentality, there's no question about that.

1326
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 1: I thought he caught the ball well too. Yeah, and

1327
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 1: I thought that was one question mark coming out of college.

1328
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 1: He didn't have very many receptions, but the Bills have

1329
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 1: used him and actually when they worked him out, that

1330
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 1: was all they wanted to look at, and he showed

1331
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 1: an ability to do that. I thought last night one

1332
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 1: other guy I wanted to ask you about was, let

1333
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 1: me guess, was vos Sean Joseph the safety. Did you

1334
01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 1: get a chance to look at him? You know, he

1335
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 1: played stacked backer and uh, he's uh, you know, he's

1336
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 1: a run guy. I mean, it'll be interesting to see

1337
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 1: because he's he's a speed guy. He's a little light.

1338
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:10,479
Speaker 1: I mean, I know, I think he was too thirty

1339
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:12,479
Speaker 1: at the combine. He doesn't look like that on tape.

1340
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: I don't know what he weighs now. You know, he

1341
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 1: has the look of his safety, but he was basically

1342
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 1: playing stacked linebacker to the strong side and uh, you

1343
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 1: know he didn't he didn't make a lot of plays,

1344
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 1: but you can see the movement, and you know, I

1345
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 1: think that I don't know what his role will be

1346
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 1: on this team. I'm not sure he'll play a lot

1347
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 1: of snaps and you know, with the defense, they'll probably

1348
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 1: end up being a special teams player early on. Greg,

1349
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 1: let me just take you around the league a little bit.

1350
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 1: Some of the other note you make from the first

1351
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 1: Thursday of the preseason and Daniel Jones. Are they ready

1352
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 1: to annoy him as the next guy for the New

1353
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 1: York Giants? What did you see last night? What do

1354
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 1: you think? Well, from what I'm reading this morning, I

1355
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 1: think it's not just annoying him as the next guy.

1356
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 1: I think we need the gold jacket at the Hall

1357
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 1: of Fame, right, yea hey, but that's the That's what

1358
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 1: the first preseason game is always all about. You know,

1359
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 1: we overanalyze that one. But look, you know it's so

1360
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 1: funny watching these first preseason games. Obviously, he was five

1361
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 1: for five. All five of his drop backs were defying

1362
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 1: reads and throws with the route concepts dictating the timing

1363
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 1: of the of the drop in the throw they ran

1364
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 1: in RPO. He did a nice job there. They were

1365
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 1: in a nice post cross combination. That was the play

1366
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 1: that really said a lot to me about him being coachable,

1367
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 1: because he played almost exclusively from the shotgun at duke

1368
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 1: and a post cross under center. That's basically a shot

1369
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 1: play call and its play action. And what I really

1370
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 1: liked about him was he snapped his head around really

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01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 1: quickly after he turned his back to the defense and

1372
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 1: as Steve knows when you're not used to turning your

1373
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 1: back to the defense as a quarterback. That's something you've

1374
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 1: got to work on. That's a learned trait. And he

1375
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 1: snapped his head around and he made a great throw.

1376
01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: And then the touchdown pass to Fowler, which we're looking

1377
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 1: at right now, was again it was basically it was

1378
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 1: red zone cover two. It's a high, low read concept

1379
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 1: and he made a great, great throw into the corner

1380
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 1: of the end zone on the corner route. Well, one

1381
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:13,919
Speaker 1: last guy I've got to ask you about. He's maybe

1382
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 1: the most intriguing rookie in the league. Gets seen his

1383
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 1: house so much rides on his shoulders is Kyler Murray.

1384
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:20,719
Speaker 1: I watched a little bit of that game. I didn't

1385
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 1: see him play. I got to the game very late

1386
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 1: and late in the second half and he was out.

1387
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 1: But I did see the highlights that they were running

1388
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 1: during the broadcast. What did you see about his performance?

1389
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 1: And what's it gonna look like that offense with Kyler

1390
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:36,560
Speaker 1: Murray at quarterback. Well, it's funny because they didn't do

1391
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: anything with Cliff Kingsbury that you went, oh my god,

1392
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 1: look at that. They just ran when everybody runs in

1393
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,719
Speaker 1: the NFL. He threw a bunch of speed outs versus

1394
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 1: bild cover three. Those are just timing and spot throws.

1395
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 1: He made those throws. They ran a screen to David Johnson,

1396
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:54,879
Speaker 1: which they obviously they're not calling it against a specific coverage,

1397
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:58,639
Speaker 1: but they got the coverage that made the play work,

1398
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 1: so it was a nice gain. He showed the ability

1399
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 1: to escape pressure, get outside the pocket and make second

1400
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 1: reaction throws. They got him outside on boot. As we're

1401
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 1: looking at right here, you'll see a lot of that.

1402
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 1: Those are well defined throws again with a high low element.

1403
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 1: Here's the screen that I was talking about. They ended

1404
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:19,639
Speaker 1: up getting man coverage, so they just had to block

1405
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 1: the guy who was covering David Johnson, so you know,

1406
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 1: they kept it really simple. I mean, what you're hoping

1407
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:28,680
Speaker 1: in these preseason games for young quarterback Steve you know

1408
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 1: this is you're just looking to see them execute so

1409
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 1: they come away with success and not failure. One more

1410
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 1: quarterback to ask you about Greg before I let you go.

1411
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. Seems they have a sense of maybe the

1412
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 1: expectation level in Cleveland because he came out on fire

1413
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 1: last night right opening drive for the Browns. What I

1414
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:48,560
Speaker 1: like most about Baker Mayfield. And this is and I

1415
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 1: believe this is very important. Hey and Steve would know this.

1416
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 1: With Jim Kelly, I mean, I think that you have

1417
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 1: to have a turn it loose, aggressive mentality to play

1418
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 1: quarterback in this league. And I think Baker Mayfield that's

1419
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 1: built into his DNA. He turns the ball loose. The

1420
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:08,719
Speaker 1: touchdown pass he threw to Higgins was a great, great

1421
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 1: example of that. It was a tight window on the

1422
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 1: seam throw versus zone. You know, and say what you

1423
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 1: want about Baker Mayfield. He's aggressive, he believes in himself.

1424
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 1: I think that's in his DNA. That's the way he plays.

1425
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 1: He's going to make throws. And I think to be

1426
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 1: a great quarterback in this league, I'm not I'm talking

1427
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 1: about a great quot. I don't use that term loosely.

1428
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying he's great now, but I think

1429
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 1: that to be that you have to have an aggressive mindset.

1430
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 1: It has to be part of your persona and you've

1431
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 1: got to make tough, difficult throws when the situation demands it. No, Greg,

1432
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe it's the Christian Wade run here

1433
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, and maybe it's just a Bills victory. I

1434
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 1: try to keep my emotion in check, but I feel

1435
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 1: good about the Bills. On the rest of the NFL, too,

1436
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 1: there's a lot to like about the first preseason games

1437
01:10:57,120 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 1: worth here, Yo, Yeah, I mean, look, it's it's football,

1438
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:04,639
Speaker 1: it's you know again, I try to keep it under control.

1439
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 1: I look for traits. I look for why guys play well.

1440
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 1: I think coaches are more interested in these preseason games

1441
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 1: and in evaluating individual players. Obviously, they're playing their schemes

1442
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 1: and their techniques that they've been teaching, but they're not

1443
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 1: hardcore game planning against an opponent per se. So they're

1444
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 1: really looking at individual players. That to me is the

1445
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 1: fun of it. You know, obviously I focus a lot

1446
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 1: on quarterbacks, but you know, that's what I think the

1447
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:34,719
Speaker 1: preseason is for evaluating players, and fans should realize there's

1448
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 1: not twenty spots up for grabs on teams. You know,

1449
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 1: Steve knows what are there, Steve five to seven spots

1450
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 1: that are really up for grabs. Not me. I'm making

1451
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:46,919
Speaker 1: rash judgments and snap decisions based on everything I saw yesterday,

1452
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 1: and I've got I'm pretty sure. I like that. I

1453
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 1: like I'm pretty sure I know what's going to go.

1454
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 1: Just look at one play and make your judgment. That's right,

1455
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 1: I've seen enough. Yeah, there you go. We'll talk again soon.

1456
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 1: Thank you, Grace. Greg all right, guys, talk to you great.

1457
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:04,759
Speaker 1: Co sal Is executive producer analyst NFL matchup on ESPN,

1458
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 1: long time senior producer at NFL Films. Good to talk

1459
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 1: with him and get kind of an outsider's view of

1460
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 1: what we saw from the Bills last Yeah. He's pretty objective,

1461
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 1: and sometimes sometimes it can like I don't know, you know,

1462
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 1: because we have built in biases for all of us.

1463
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 1: We talk about these guys, we know the effort they're

1464
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 1: putting in. But I'm kind of with him. There's a

1465
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 1: lot to like about what the Bills did last night

1466
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 1: that was said, Yeah, but there's also, like I've been saying,

1467
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 1: you know, we all know. Yeah, you know, Josh missed

1468
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 1: a couple of throats and I saw him too, and

1469
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:36,599
Speaker 1: I called and I called it out on our broadcast,

1470
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:38,639
Speaker 1: just like it that that first curl rout he missed

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01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 1: his A was probably the one that I remember the most.

1472
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 1: He's gotta make that throw and I know that's what

1473
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 1: he's as a player, and I know he's just like

1474
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:50,720
Speaker 1: this or your competitor. You're laying in bed that night

1475
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 1: after the game, and Josh is not thinking about all

1476
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 1: the good stuff. He's saying, man, I hit that throw.

1477
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 1: That's the kind of thing they think about because they

1478
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 1: want to do it right, and plenty to be optimistic about,

1479
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 1: plenty of stuff to work on as well. But I'm

1480
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 1: with you. You look around the league. There's some pretty

1481
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 1: good football out there, good stories going on. That's the

1482
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 1: thing that is the most fun. Yeah. I think the

1483
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 1: surprising thing is that we saw some really good players

1484
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 1: playing good. But the fun of it was seeing which

1485
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:20,720
Speaker 1: guys It was that we were like, oh yeah, I'm

1486
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 1: kind of pulling for that guy. Yeah, I agree. He's

1487
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 1: got a text from a friend of mine who says

1488
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 1: Greg Cosella is our best guest. He probably is. Let's

1489
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 1: keep that to ourselves. We have other people on too,

1490
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 1: want to renegotiate ate well, plus nobody else want to

1491
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:36,560
Speaker 1: come on because they can't. You know, all right, we

1492
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 1: got a guy coming up on the show, and coming

1493
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 1: up next. We taped an interview earlier today with one

1494
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 1: of the Bills All Time Bills Fans all time favorites.

1495
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 1: Stevie Johnson's in town for Fred Jackson's weekend football camp.

1496
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 1: Steve and I sat down with Stevie. He's Stevie. You're

1497
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 1: Steve right, Yes, Stevie Johnson. When we return, come on

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01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 1: back One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. This is

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01:13:56,120 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bills Live. We

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01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 1: are outside for this segment. We taped it early in

1501
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:21,760
Speaker 1: the day. John Murphy's Steve Tather and former Bills wide

1502
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 1: receiver Dane Johnson. Welcome back to the Orchard Park to

1503
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 1: have you here. Thanks, We'll always have seeing you. Brought

1504
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 1: a little San Diego weather with you here today. I'm

1505
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 1: not as Buffalo weather. I can't claim it. I love it.

1506
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 1: You came back for a football camp with Fred Jackson.

1507
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 1: You're involved in right this weekend. Tell us about it? Yeah, absolutely,

1508
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 1: you know Freddie he hit me up and he was

1509
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 1: asking if I can come through and help out the kids,

1510
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 1: And obviously I'm there for it. Anything for Buffalo that

1511
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 1: I can help, I'm I'm hearing, ready to make it happen.

1512
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 1: You were on your way into town last night during

1513
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:52,599
Speaker 1: the Bills preseason game against the Colts. But you were,

1514
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 1: you know, seventh roundraft pick. You probably got some pretty

1515
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:56,760
Speaker 1: vivid memories about your training camps and how you earned

1516
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 1: a roster spot. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I mean I

1517
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 1: can remember coming it's a training camp, just seeing all

1518
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 1: the Vets, you know, seeing how focus they were, and

1519
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 1: then seeing the group that I came in with, and

1520
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 1: uh and just trying to get trying to get a

1521
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 1: spot on the team, trying to help out the team,

1522
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 1: having the conversations with with the young guys. Uh. Well

1523
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 1: I was a young guy at the time also, but

1524
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 1: about trying to help the team, you know, and um,

1525
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 1: you know, now we're then you get to preseason, which

1526
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:23,639
Speaker 1: is what you know, the fans got to see yesterday,

1527
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 1: got them, got to see them get active. Uh, and

1528
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 1: that and that's that's where it all starts. That's where

1529
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 1: it all starts. Who were the Vets that you kind

1530
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 1: of looked up to when you were here. I would

1531
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 1: think Lee Evans was part of that group. R Yeah,

1532
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:37,680
Speaker 1: it was Lee Evans, Josh Reid and Roscoe Parish and

1533
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 1: uh and they both they both were valuable for me

1534
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:43,680
Speaker 1: and uh in my receiving career. And and just like

1535
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 1: in the in the film room and in the meeting rooms.

1536
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 1: What did you learn from Lee Evans? Uh, just just

1537
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 1: staying of course, trying to keep it even kill you know, Um,

1538
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 1: everybody know, I'm I can go up and down, up

1539
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:56,640
Speaker 1: and down, and uh, I'm like in the moment with

1540
01:15:56,800 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 1: things end up. But Lee was always cool. Yeah, kept

1541
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 1: kept it straight, you know, so he was something to

1542
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 1: look Chan was that coach Chan Gailey? Yeah, yep, well, um,

1543
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 1: dickon and then and then Chan came in and uh

1544
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:12,639
Speaker 1: and then then Lee end up leaving though, right. Does

1545
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:15,599
Speaker 1: anything stand out to you about your preseason experiences, particularly

1546
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 1: the early ones. Yeah, I mean I got I got

1547
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 1: one where It's funny you brought up Lee's name. So

1548
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 1: it was fourth preseason game. You know, that's where we

1549
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 1: that's where's our time, our time to shine. And Lee

1550
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 1: walked up to me and was like, I'm excited to

1551
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 1: see I'm excited to watch you playing. And that right

1552
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,560
Speaker 1: there just gave me so much inspiration and motivation to

1553
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 1: to ball out on that preseason game. And my quarterback

1554
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 1: at the time was Lebron Hampton, and um, you know

1555
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 1: we was we was in the game and he told

1556
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 1: me to do a he told me to do a

1557
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:49,639
Speaker 1: hitch route, and at the time, I'm like, man, Lee, ready,

1558
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 1: he's excited to watch me. You don't want to watch

1559
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 1: me run a hitch route right now. So I'm telling him.

1560
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm pointing down, like, no, we're running the goal.

1561
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 1: Let's run the goal. And he's telling me hitch. So

1562
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 1: then we get off the hike hiked up and he

1563
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 1: see I'm not running the hitch, so he throws it up.

1564
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 1: I go up and make the play. This preseason got

1565
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 1: go up and make the play, and I feel like

1566
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 1: this is what got me. I guess loved in the city. Um,

1567
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 1: when I made it, I turned around, went to the

1568
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 1: fans instantly, let's go. You know what I'm saying. They

1569
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 1: got in the fall and I feel like that was

1570
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 1: you know, that was the first connection with with the

1571
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 1: fans and Jabron also he was upset at me, but

1572
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 1: but when I made the play, he was like, Okay, yeah,

1573
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:26,680
Speaker 1: I guess it works, you know, So that it was

1574
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 1: chances that I took and um, you know, I was

1575
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 1: never wanting to be disrespectful to the to the QB

1576
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 1: saying oh no, I'm gonna do this. You know what,

1577
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:34,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying, but I just felt like I had to

1578
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 1: at that time. TV. I know you weren't disrespectful, but

1579
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 1: you did freelance, right, you did. You what I'm think about,

1580
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 1: how did you get that freedom to do that and

1581
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 1: the confidence to do that? Well, I had to get open,

1582
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 1: you know. I felt like, uh, you know, I wasn't

1583
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 1: freelancing to a point where nobody knew what I was doing.

1584
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 1: I was like still within the framework of the routes

1585
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 1: and everything, but um, I just I just did it

1586
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 1: a little bit different because when I first got into

1587
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 1: the league, I'm running routes and the holes was just

1588
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 1: too tight. You know. I'm like, there's no way I

1589
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 1: can survive in this league with every ball being like

1590
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 1: a fifty fifty ball. So I just got back to

1591
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:12,640
Speaker 1: what I felt can create space for me. And I

1592
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:14,800
Speaker 1: was basketball and so I use that. Man one of

1593
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 1: the things about it, and I was talking to quarterback

1594
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 1: like fits when he was throwing you the ball and

1595
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 1: all these guys, you would get to the spot you

1596
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,559
Speaker 1: were supposed to be at at the time you're supposed

1597
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 1: to be there, but if it was supposed to be

1598
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 1: an out, you might run it like an out. And

1599
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:29,680
Speaker 1: up and then back to get your separation because you know,

1600
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 1: you know, playing against the DBS all the time, they

1601
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 1: kind of get to know what the rob tree is exactly,

1602
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:37,559
Speaker 1: and you're doing stuff. It's about fooling them rather than

1603
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 1: out running them. Yeah, fooling them within that time. If

1604
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 1: you can get on time and in the right spot.

1605
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:44,639
Speaker 1: Quarterback didn't care if you're there and you're by yourself,

1606
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 1: He'll throw it to you. Is that And that's kind

1607
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 1: of your your modus oper endive how you got on

1608
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 1: the team. Yeah, yeah, for real. And and another thing

1609
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:53,560
Speaker 1: that plays into it is having that quarterback because some

1610
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are strictly on steps in the appropriate time and

1611
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 1: like this pacific timing and they already letting the ball go.

1612
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 1: But um, you know, some quarterbacks they work with you.

1613
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 1: And that's what I was fortunate enough to have. And

1614
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of the think about josh Alan.

1615
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:12,639
Speaker 1: He's got both. He can he can throw it now,

1616
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 1: and he also has that touch to see and then

1617
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 1: give you some to give you some time and then

1618
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:18,600
Speaker 1: and it got the arm strength to put it in

1619
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:20,680
Speaker 1: a place that it needs to be. So um, like

1620
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 1: the guys here they got they got a great opportunity.

1621
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 1: They just got to seize it and uh hopefully that

1622
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 1: they're getting it done in the film room. Former Bill's

1623
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 1: wide receivers Tevie Johnson with us visiting Western New York

1624
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 1: for Fred Jackson's football camp this weekend. You talked about

1625
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:34,640
Speaker 1: the quarterback you had, and you're talking about fit you

1626
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick. You and he had a special chemistry and

1627
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:40,439
Speaker 1: sort of an unspoken understanding of how you were going

1628
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 1: to run routes and when he was gonna throw it. Huh. Yeah,

1629
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 1: it was just all that. It was all that practice,

1630
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 1: starting with the scout team. Uh, that's that's where we

1631
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 1: got our confidence from playing against the ones. Uh coming

1632
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:52,599
Speaker 1: in as a seventh rounder, you know, we that's where

1633
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 1: we are. We the scout team look at these plays

1634
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 1: and then uh go go show it for the for

1635
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 1: the defense. And as we were looking at those plays,

1636
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 1: I was talking with fitz Hey, I'm gonna do it

1637
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 1: like this, but it's gonna be the same route, but

1638
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:04,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it a little bit different. And then

1639
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 1: as it was working with the ones, Okay, we might

1640
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:10,880
Speaker 1: have something. So that's what it was. Does his success

1641
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 1: and longevity in the league surprise you at all. Uh nah, No,

1642
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 1: not at all, because it's just it's just about protecting yourself,

1643
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 1: you know, not being in those collisions. Um. You know,

1644
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:23,639
Speaker 1: as a as a QB, you got you got control

1645
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 1: all that, you know. Um, So I'm pretty sure he'll

1646
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:28,760
Speaker 1: play even even more years out there this you know.

1647
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:30,720
Speaker 1: It's just I guess as long as teams want him.

1648
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 1: It was fits, um, of all the quarterbacks you played,

1649
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 1: but he was at the top of the list for you.

1650
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 1: Everythink was productive. Yeah, for sure, because we I mean

1651
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 1: we had the most chemistry together and UM, yeah I

1652
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:44,559
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Dude. Let's let's talk to you a little

1653
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 1: bit about the game today, um, and how it's change.

1654
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 1: And you've only been out of the league for how

1655
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 1: many years? Five years? Maybe four? Four? But it seems

1656
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 1: like the passing game is different now than it was

1657
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 1: when you played. Huh. Um, I wouldn't say it. I wouldn't.

1658
01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:57,640
Speaker 1: I want to say it's different because I feel like

1659
01:20:57,680 --> 01:20:59,680
Speaker 1: it was coming into his own when when I was

1660
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 1: here and um, and now it's just it's flourishing now,

1661
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:05,720
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Um. But you know, one

1662
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 1: thing leads to another. That's that's it's tough on defenses,

1663
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:09,680
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because they can't do as

1664
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 1: much as they should be allowed to do. UM. But

1665
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, it is what it is. I'm

1666
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:16,680
Speaker 1: a receiver, so I ain't gonna speak too much on

1667
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 1: feeling sorry for the DV. What's the biggest when you

1668
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:22,599
Speaker 1: watch games? Now? What do you notice more about how

1669
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 1: it's changed just in the short time you've been going, um, honest,

1670
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 1: to keep it, to keep it all the way honest

1671
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:29,560
Speaker 1: with you. It's the coaching part of it, you know

1672
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I feel like I felt like when

1673
01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 1: when something goes wrong looking at the film, because I

1674
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 1: get a lot of clips into me and I can

1675
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 1: see a lot of clips I do. I do training,

1676
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 1: personal training and UM. And when I see the clips

1677
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:44,559
Speaker 1: of like a quarterback doing something wrong or a receiver,

1678
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 1: they're not necessarily not own them. And and I feel

1679
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 1: like even in my time when I was doing something wrong,

1680
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 1: it was it was too many cool coaches are. I

1681
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:53,680
Speaker 1: ain't gonna say too much, you know what I mean.

1682
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:55,800
Speaker 1: I think I think if you want to go to

1683
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:59,479
Speaker 1: that next level, you have to coach them. Yeah, don't

1684
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 1: be of non be. I don't want to say afraid,

1685
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 1: and nobody's scared of them, but don't be. I guess,

1686
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:07,040
Speaker 1: uh timid to to ruffle some feathers, you know what

1687
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, we're here to work for you, coach, coach,

1688
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 1: don't don't give me half effort. You know what I'm saying.

1689
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 1: If I do something wrong, you gotta let him know, Like, hey, QB,

1690
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:16,720
Speaker 1: you gotta read that and throw it up here. You

1691
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm seeing a lot of that now,

1692
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 1: you know as a as a fan or spectator of

1693
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:23,320
Speaker 1: the game. Now right, Stevia, sounds like you've had a

1694
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 1: look at Josh Allen right in the Buffalo offense. Give

1695
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 1: us your IMPRESSIONE of Josh Allen. Yeah, well, from his

1696
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:32,800
Speaker 1: rookie year, I've seen already noticed that he was a playmaker. Um,

1697
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:35,640
Speaker 1: we just needed to build pieces around him. Um, and

1698
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 1: now we're absolutely doing that, and we're making efforts to

1699
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 1: keep playmakers around like adding Cole Cole Beasley, m adding

1700
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 1: John Brown another vetting and Andre Roberts. Um, we got

1701
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:51,920
Speaker 1: some young guys that was that started with with Josh

1702
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:54,560
Speaker 1: and I feel like, um adding these this mix of

1703
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:57,000
Speaker 1: vets that can create is going to do nothing but

1704
01:22:57,080 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 1: help him. Yeah, you gotta. You gotta kind of feel like, Wow,

1705
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:01,880
Speaker 1: great to for a guy like you to play with

1706
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 1: a guy like Josh who's kind of improvised and got

1707
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 1: the ability to keep a play alive in the big arm,

1708
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 1: Like if you decide to go sixty five yards, he

1709
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 1: can make the throw right. It would have been a

1710
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 1: lot of fun to see to play with a guy

1711
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 1: like that, correct, Yeah for sure. But you know I can.

1712
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:17,880
Speaker 1: I can always help out some of the receivers and

1713
01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 1: ways to where it'll it'll help out Josh. You know

1714
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:22,560
Speaker 1: that way I won't have to think about. Man, I

1715
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:25,080
Speaker 1: wish I could have been there. You know, you missed

1716
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:27,800
Speaker 1: the game, you missed playing. Yeah, yeah, I'm a football player.

1717
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:31,600
Speaker 1: You know I missed playing football. But I understand. You

1718
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:33,680
Speaker 1: know it was my time, you know. And you you

1719
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 1: made a seventh rond draft. You made a heck of

1720
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:38,640
Speaker 1: a career for Yeah, for sure, for sure. And I

1721
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:41,280
Speaker 1: get to come back here. You know, I'm pretty much whatever,

1722
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 1: I guess. So what tell me? What do you do

1723
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 1: for a living? Now? What do you how to keep

1724
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:46,760
Speaker 1: busy these days? Yeah? Well right now, I got I

1725
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:48,800
Speaker 1: got some land. I owned some land up in northern

1726
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 1: California and in southern California, so you know, we do

1727
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:54,679
Speaker 1: like a bed and breakfast. We got a festival, games

1728
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 1: and movie nights. Um uh. And then and then in

1729
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 1: southern Cow. I'm I'm not all the way in there

1730
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 1: just yet, but I'm getting this. This this restaurant business

1731
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 1: going on. So yeah, we we got some things going

1732
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:10,600
Speaker 1: on out there. And besides, besides the business aspect, this

1733
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:12,920
Speaker 1: is the fun, but we also get money off of it.

1734
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 1: Is the training, like I was saying, um, traveling to

1735
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 1: schools and um and getting a private training in um.

1736
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 1: I mean that's easy, you know, and something that I wanted.

1737
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 1: I love to do because it's given opportunity to these acts,

1738
01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:28,800
Speaker 1: these young athletes. You know. And he told us, you

1739
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 1: do some podcasts, work with their old buddy Donald Jones,

1740
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:34,679
Speaker 1: who did this year. You're ready whatever. The football podcast obviously, Yeah,

1741
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 1: it's it's everything. We talk about it all, you know,

1742
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 1: it's the White Serious podcast. Me yeah, me, Donald Jones,

1743
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 1: Joe Lacotta and Mike Lafredo and um yeah, we all.

1744
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 1: I mean every week we give our intake on the

1745
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 1: bills and then we give our intake on um something

1746
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:52,559
Speaker 1: that happened in the NFL, and then you know there's

1747
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:54,720
Speaker 1: something in life, you know, right, and we just talk

1748
01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 1: about it for a little bit and then we go

1749
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:58,559
Speaker 1: into the next segment. How often will somebody come up

1750
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 1: to you and say white so serious or pull up

1751
01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 1: a T shirt with white so serious? Thing that must

1752
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:04,400
Speaker 1: happened once in a while. Yeah, it wasn't a one,

1753
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 1: but you know, I guess not not enough, you know

1754
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:09,880
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I wanted, I wanted more. But what

1755
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 1: was that all about? You were looking for what to

1756
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 1: make your mark? I guess right, well, no, it was

1757
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 1: only it was only because of Chad Johnson and t

1758
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 1: O was um Batman and Robin Shirt. I just wanted

1759
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 1: to bring some hype to the game that was perfect,

1760
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 1: so serious, it was perfect. Kid. It seem me great

1761
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:28,160
Speaker 1: to see you. I tell you one more thing. What

1762
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:30,639
Speaker 1: message will you delivered these kids at Fred's camp this weekend?

1763
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 1: What are you gonna talking to them about the same

1764
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 1: one that makes sure y'all handle business first, then have fun.

1765
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 1: You know, That's that's the main thing to go off of.

1766
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 1: And um, and that's that's why I'm gonna let them

1767
01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 1: though have fun with that. Thank you, great scene. Thanks

1768
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 1: for stopping buying saying hi, man, it's a great scene

1769
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 1: in the building. Stevie Johnson, Bill's wide receiver, Steve and

1770
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:49,599
Speaker 1: I coming back with more One Bills Live from one

1771
01:25:49,640 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back

1772
01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 1: to the show. Our thanks to Stevie Johnson. I'd like

1773
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 1: doing that interview outside today see perfect day like this.

1774
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 1: I thought that was fun. Yeah, you know he started

1775
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:10,479
Speaker 1: in the shade. By the end of the interviewer in

1776
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 1: full sunlight. Yeah, this is great, some great day out.

1777
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 1: Good to catch up with Stevie. He's got you know

1778
01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 1: he does. I was. I admitted he's paying attention to

1779
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 1: what's going on here now right. He is a true

1780
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:23,240
Speaker 1: Bills alumnus, even from across the country in San Diego.

1781
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 1: Why don't know what you think about last night's game,

1782
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 1: the preseason opener twenty four to sixteen win over the

1783
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts. What was your biggest takeaway from last night's game?

1784
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:33,560
Speaker 1: Got full lines open eight oh three five fifteen the

1785
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 1: number from outside Buffalo. It's a toll free call one

1786
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty Send in

1787
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:41,639
Speaker 1: a tweet, we might read it on the tweet sheet.

1788
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:43,840
Speaker 1: We got Chris Brown coming by to join us to

1789
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 1: talk about the game in a little bit. I want

1790
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 1: to read a few tweets here on that topic. Steve,

1791
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 1: all right, here we do that. Let's go back to

1792
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:52,679
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet. It is presented by Corrigan Moving Systems,

1793
01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:55,559
Speaker 1: the official movers of the Buffalo Bills. The tweet sheet,

1794
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 1: what was your biggest takeaway from the win last night?

1795
01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:00,600
Speaker 1: Go ahead from Brian Cook. He says, Christian Wade a

1796
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:02,880
Speaker 1: rugby player that can fly. Not only did he score

1797
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 1: sixty five yard touchdown on his first play, but his

1798
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:07,600
Speaker 1: but the play was over before he even got to

1799
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:10,160
Speaker 1: the fifty yard line because he was gone. If he

1800
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 1: can acclimate to the game, he's got insane upside. I

1801
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 1: think that's true. He's got some skills, no question about him.

1802
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:18,680
Speaker 1: It was the play of the night, without question. You

1803
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:20,760
Speaker 1: know it's cool about that too. The setup where he

1804
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 1: you can invest time in him, right, he's got a

1805
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 1: guaranteed spot if they want him on the practice squad,

1806
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:29,320
Speaker 1: player number eleven. I still don't I gotta figure out

1807
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:31,600
Speaker 1: the answer is a league pay paying him or the

1808
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 1: Bills doesn't matter. I don't know if he's an exemption.

1809
01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:37,439
Speaker 1: He's not on the cap anyway, right, I mean you're

1810
01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 1: actic squad. It's the same thing. But you can invest

1811
01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:42,599
Speaker 1: time in him. You can look at that play and say, Okay,

1812
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 1: we got something here, let's work on it for a year. Now.

1813
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 1: You'd answer me the Steve because you well know this

1814
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 1: the answer to this question, how much time during the

1815
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:54,000
Speaker 1: course of an NFL regular season do can you invest

1816
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:56,479
Speaker 1: in player development? The same kind of question goes for

1817
01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 1: somebody like Tyree Jackson. You know you want him around,

1818
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:01,639
Speaker 1: you want to invest, you know you want to develop him.

1819
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 1: And this is a big Chris Brown theory, and he's right,

1820
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 1: player development is huge. But once September eighth comes around

1821
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 1: and you got the Jets and the Giants and the

1822
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:11,960
Speaker 1: Bengals and the Patriots, blah blah blah, you really have

1823
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 1: time if you're a coach, to say, let's work on

1824
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:19,680
Speaker 1: Christian Wade today. Yes, you do, and you invest. Particularly,

1825
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 1: you make sure you've got people on your staff in

1826
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:24,280
Speaker 1: your weight room, in your training room, and you've got it.

1827
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 1: They can be on a schedule that you said and

1828
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 1: that they said as well. You got to tell him

1829
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 1: you'll put as much effort into their career as they

1830
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:33,559
Speaker 1: will if they want to be in there all hours

1831
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 1: of the day, if they want to study film, if

1832
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 1: they want to scour. A guy like Christian Wade wants

1833
01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 1: to scour the rule book and understand and watch film

1834
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:42,400
Speaker 1: and see how it works. If he wants to do

1835
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 1: all that, You've got people in the building that will

1836
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:46,680
Speaker 1: support him. That's the way it should that's the way

1837
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:49,880
Speaker 1: it'll work. And you'll also have him on the field

1838
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:53,200
Speaker 1: with some of the guys who do it at the

1839
01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:56,920
Speaker 1: highest level. There is his teammates, they'll be in it

1840
01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 1: with him as well. He can ask them questions. He'll

1841
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:01,720
Speaker 1: watch him practice, he'll practice with them, he'll talk to them.

1842
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 1: There's absolutely no way he'll He'll make leaps and bounds.

1843
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 1: And so Tyree Jackson, Tyree Jackson is a guy. I mean,

1844
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 1: if he's on the practice squarter, if he hangs in

1845
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:14,840
Speaker 1: this building for another year, he'll be a completely different

1846
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:18,560
Speaker 1: animal than he is today, just like Josh Allen was.

1847
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 1: Tyree Jackson's got so much to learn, just like Josh

1848
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:26,560
Speaker 1: Allen did. They came from lesser snown college programs, and

1849
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:30,760
Speaker 1: Tyree Jackson was a was bigger, faster, stronger armed than

1850
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:33,680
Speaker 1: anybody at his college level. And he's going to get

1851
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:35,640
Speaker 1: a chance to watch a guy like Josh Allen who

1852
01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 1: was exactly like him twelve months ago. So yeah, they're development.

1853
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 1: Want to say that, What do you mean he was

1854
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:47,720
Speaker 1: exactly like him twelve months ago? Okayactly, skill set was big,

1855
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:49,880
Speaker 1: He's Josh Allen was the best player on the field

1856
01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 1: at his college. He big, strong armed, ran the football

1857
01:29:57,160 --> 01:29:58,880
Speaker 1: as much as he threw the football. I mean, he

1858
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 1: was exactly. It was the kind of this same thing.

1859
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to fight. I'd see that

1860
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:04,920
Speaker 1: they're both big. I don't want to fight you on

1861
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:07,800
Speaker 1: this this minor points right anyway, that's that's that's an

1862
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:12,400
Speaker 1: offseason fight. One roll with me. So anyway, Yeah, the

1863
01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:16,000
Speaker 1: player development inside this building is real. Corey Thompson's a

1864
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:17,960
Speaker 1: perfect example of that. We talked about him a lot.

1865
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:19,920
Speaker 1: He was, you know, under now the guy can really go.

1866
01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:22,960
Speaker 1: He had some things to get through before he get

1867
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:26,479
Speaker 1: to that point. And this building seems to be focused

1868
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 1: on that more so than at any time in the

1869
01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:31,720
Speaker 1: recent past that I can remember. They've got guys that

1870
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:34,320
Speaker 1: are getting better while they're in this building, and I

1871
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:36,679
Speaker 1: think you can crown on Christian Wade and Tyree Jackson

1872
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:38,840
Speaker 1: and the rest of those guys being in that boat too.

1873
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:41,160
Speaker 1: Maybe that happens to Christian Wade. He certainly has the

1874
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:44,800
Speaker 1: support and backup of his teammates. Thinking about Robert Foster

1875
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:46,320
Speaker 1: last year, it took him a half a year to

1876
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:48,280
Speaker 1: get on the field, Ray Ray McLeod. We've heard Sean

1877
01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:51,679
Speaker 1: McDermott say, Wow, he's a different guy. So I think

1878
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 1: if you want to say something I've really kind of

1879
01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 1: done well, it would be that kind of development. Let's

1880
01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,800
Speaker 1: talk to Brownie about it. A Christian Wade's touchdown has

1881
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:04,080
Speaker 1: captivated Builds fans and even some of Wade's teammates, including

1882
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:06,680
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Build's quarterback had did to say about what

1883
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 1: he saw from Christian wage touchdown. Roun big congrats to him.

1884
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's he saw how we reacted on the sidelines.

1885
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:16,600
Speaker 1: I think we all kind of have an affinity for

1886
01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:19,479
Speaker 1: this kid and what he's been through and the challenge

1887
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 1: that he's been going through with learning the game of football.

1888
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 1: And he gets an opportunity and he makes the most

1889
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 1: out of it. So that was just hats off to him.

1890
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:29,920
Speaker 1: That was one of the coolest experiences of my football career.

1891
01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:31,400
Speaker 1: And it wasn't even me or I wasn't even on

1892
01:31:31,439 --> 01:31:33,479
Speaker 1: the field, So it was just awesome to be part

1893
01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 1: of that. Do you think that kind of a moment

1894
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:38,120
Speaker 1: does for a team kind of you're in the preseason,

1895
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:40,800
Speaker 1: kind of getting monotonous here as it goes? What kind

1896
01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:43,439
Speaker 1: of boost do you think the moment like that can

1897
01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:45,439
Speaker 1: give a team at this point of the preseason. I mean,

1898
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:48,160
Speaker 1: he saw the energy and excitement, you know, not just

1899
01:31:48,240 --> 01:31:50,400
Speaker 1: have everybody in the stadium, but everybody on the sideline.

1900
01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:53,880
Speaker 1: You know, we had to push everybody off the field

1901
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 1: so we can kick the extra point. And I think

1902
01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:57,600
Speaker 1: he like, I mean, I was talking to some of

1903
01:31:57,640 --> 01:32:00,960
Speaker 1: the guys all he's used to his practice, long running practice.

1904
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:02,920
Speaker 1: He goes straight back to the huddle. So after he

1905
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:05,000
Speaker 1: scored that touchdown, he was just kind of standing there

1906
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:06,800
Speaker 1: and Wyatt Teller I had to tell him to get

1907
01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:09,839
Speaker 1: off the field. So but that's just like just shows

1908
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 1: how little you know, relatively little he knows about football

1909
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:16,920
Speaker 1: because he's never played it, but how much he's learning.

1910
01:32:17,080 --> 01:32:19,320
Speaker 1: And like I said, he got the opportunity he took

1911
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:21,360
Speaker 1: advantage of it, and I think as time goes on,

1912
01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:23,920
Speaker 1: he's going to be asha smarter and learn a lot

1913
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:27,120
Speaker 1: more things. And um, but I'll tell you what. The

1914
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:30,800
Speaker 1: entire team was super pumped for that happened. It was awesome. Josh,

1915
01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:33,519
Speaker 1: Josh's got it. He's right. The reaction to the play.

1916
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:36,320
Speaker 1: The play was great. The reaction was just as cool.

1917
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:40,040
Speaker 1: I thought it was amazing. Yeah, it was great. It's yeah.

1918
01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:43,200
Speaker 1: I think that's um as good a moment as you're

1919
01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:45,680
Speaker 1: gonna have in this preseason, without question. I don't know

1920
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:48,320
Speaker 1: what else is going He's not gonna get any better.

1921
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:51,280
Speaker 1: I've seen too much preseason football. I think this is

1922
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:54,160
Speaker 1: all gonna go on a fay tale fashion. That's gonna

1923
01:32:54,280 --> 01:32:56,960
Speaker 1: that is the highlight right there. So he just buckled

1924
01:32:57,000 --> 01:33:00,640
Speaker 1: down and endure the rest of it. Tell I mean

1925
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:02,439
Speaker 1: it was great. I mean, come on, it was fun.

1926
01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:04,519
Speaker 1: We're having fun. We'll have some fun in the final

1927
01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:06,800
Speaker 1: three games, a little bit of fun maybe, Hey, when

1928
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:09,040
Speaker 1: we come back. Chris Brown's gonna join US Bills Insider

1929
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:11,720
Speaker 1: Buffalo bills dot com. Is this his third appearance of

1930
01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 1: the week, Yes, one, two three. Chris Brown makes his

1931
01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 1: third appear. This is a record for Chris. He's got

1932
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:20,720
Speaker 1: the hat trick. He's coming up next. Come on back,

1933
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:22,800
Speaker 1: give us a call talk with Chris about the game.

1934
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Speaker 1: Eight three five fifty toll Free one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty one Billslide presented by Come

1936
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Speaker 1: Out of Health some one Bills Drive. This is Buffalo

1937
01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 1: Bills Radio, Bufalo Bills Radio Network, Sports Dame update from

1938
01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:49,400
Speaker 1: One Bills Tribe. But the Buffalo Bills will be on

1939
01:33:49,479 --> 01:33:51,760
Speaker 1: the practice field for a light workout today, the day

1940
01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 1: after their twenty four to sixteen victory in preseason game

1941
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:57,840
Speaker 1: number one against the Indianapolis Colts. The highlight of the

1942
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:00,360
Speaker 1: game was the sixty five yard touchdown run the fourth

1943
01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:04,040
Speaker 1: quarter by a former rugby union player, Christian Wade. He

1944
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:07,000
Speaker 1: will a cutback move and went sixty five yards with

1945
01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:10,600
Speaker 1: a touchdown. First time he touched the ball. Will he

1946
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 1: be a factor in the Bills offensive backfield. Frank Gore

1947
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:16,080
Speaker 1: got the start yesterday, Shady did not play. Rookie Devin

1948
01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 1: Singletary and others got snamps. But Christian Wade made his

1949
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:21,080
Speaker 1: mark first time he touched the ball with a sixty

1950
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:23,439
Speaker 1: five yard touchdown run. Next up for the Bills a

1951
01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:26,840
Speaker 1: trip to Carolina Spartanburg, South Carolina next week for a

1952
01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 1: couple of practices against the Panthers, and then they will

1953
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:32,200
Speaker 1: play the Panthers in preseason game number two one week

1954
01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:34,840
Speaker 1: from tonight. Well, Daniel Jones or the Giants did all

1955
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:36,960
Speaker 1: he could in his debut a spark a quarterback battle

1956
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:38,839
Speaker 1: in New York, but it's not going to happen, it appears,

1957
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:42,280
Speaker 1: according to Pat Shermer, the head coach of the Giant, says,

1958
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:46,000
Speaker 1: the quarterback sitition situation has not changed. Jones was five

1959
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:48,920
Speaker 1: of five for sixty seven yards in a touchdown last night,

1960
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:51,479
Speaker 1: a perfect passer rating of one fifty eight point three.

1961
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:55,120
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones number six overall pick. With a good first

1962
01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:58,519
Speaker 1: outing for the New York Giants, Eagles are probably in

1963
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:01,800
Speaker 1: the quarterback market now they're backup. Nate Sunfeld expected to

1964
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:04,400
Speaker 1: be out six weeks. He underwent surgery to repair a

1965
01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:07,719
Speaker 1: broken bone above his left wrist. According to ESPN, injured

1966
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:10,639
Speaker 1: his non throwing hand last night in the Eagles preseason

1967
01:35:10,720 --> 01:35:14,360
Speaker 1: opening loss to the Tennessee Tits. Arizona Cardinals. Rookie quarterback

1968
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:17,800
Speaker 1: Tyler Murray almost perfect in his first NFL game first

1969
01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:20,560
Speaker 1: overall pick six of seven for forty four yards in

1970
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:24,360
Speaker 1: ten snaps in the cardinals seventeen thirteen win over the Chargers.

1971
01:35:25,120 --> 01:35:28,040
Speaker 1: Murray only played the first offensive series, which resulted in

1972
01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:30,439
Speaker 1: a punt for Arizona, but he looked pretty good. And

1973
01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:33,320
Speaker 1: the Bisons road trip continues. They lost two of three

1974
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:36,000
Speaker 1: games in Toledo against the mud Ends. Now they move

1975
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:38,920
Speaker 1: on to Columbus tonight. The Bisons and the Columbus Flippers

1976
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:41,759
Speaker 1: first pitch tonight at seven fifteen. And that's the update

1977
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:45,960
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. Welcome back, It is One Bill's Live.

1978
01:35:46,040 --> 01:35:48,760
Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Tasker in our one Buffalo studio, joined

1979
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:51,400
Speaker 1: for the third time this week by Chris Brown, Bills

1980
01:35:51,439 --> 01:35:55,600
Speaker 1: Insider Buffalo Bills dot Com. Talking about the Bills and

1981
01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:57,400
Speaker 1: the victory last night. I thought we're going to talk

1982
01:35:57,400 --> 01:36:00,240
Speaker 1: about Christian Way, but we'll get to that. Chris, welcome. Yes,

1983
01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 1: good to be getting enough to Friday. Let's roll. Yeah,

1984
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:05,840
Speaker 1: that's roll, I said to Steve. And look, look I

1985
01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:08,240
Speaker 1: get it. I've been around a while, but I am not.

1986
01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:12,400
Speaker 1: I cannot recall a more memorable moment in a Bill's

1987
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:15,160
Speaker 1: preseason game than Christian Wade's moment last night, the run

1988
01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:18,040
Speaker 1: and the reaction, I thought it was fantastic. It was

1989
01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:20,240
Speaker 1: it was good. I liked it. It was a feel

1990
01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:27,720
Speaker 1: good moment for everybody involved and even for people not involved. Woe. No,

1991
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:30,200
Speaker 1: it's a special it's a special story, and it is

1992
01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:33,479
Speaker 1: the fact that it was on his first career carry

1993
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:37,719
Speaker 1: was just insane. And I think, you know, seeing everybody

1994
01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:40,240
Speaker 1: on the sidelines with eyeballs as big as sausage on

1995
01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:42,720
Speaker 1: the team, Like I've seen some of the photos that

1996
01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:45,680
Speaker 1: are you know, team photographers have taken Bill whipperd and

1997
01:36:46,160 --> 01:36:50,759
Speaker 1: Sarah and everybody, and like Lashawn McCoy's eyeballs are almost

1998
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:52,680
Speaker 1: falling out of his head as Wade is coming to

1999
01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:55,519
Speaker 1: the sideline. Because I think it was just such a

2000
01:36:55,800 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 1: natural shock to everybody to be like that just didn't happen,

2001
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:05,519
Speaker 1: what just had Like everybody was stunned that. And here's

2002
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:07,559
Speaker 1: the thing I asked him in the locker room after

2003
01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:10,760
Speaker 1: the game, because if you watch that playback a couple

2004
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:14,559
Speaker 1: of times, he's not just beating people to the end zone.

2005
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:18,760
Speaker 1: He is pulling away from people. And I asked him,

2006
01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:21,599
Speaker 1: I said, when you were in Tampa doing the US

2007
01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 1: training Stateside here before the allocations were made for each

2008
01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:27,720
Speaker 1: of these players, I said, did they put you through

2009
01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:30,360
Speaker 1: like a combine type workout and did you get a

2010
01:37:30,439 --> 01:37:32,320
Speaker 1: forty time? Because I wanted to know what his forty

2011
01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:34,640
Speaker 1: time was. And he said, yeah, we actually did do

2012
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:37,599
Speaker 1: like a full combine workout in front of scouts and everything.

2013
01:37:37,960 --> 01:37:39,439
Speaker 1: And he said, they told me my time was a

2014
01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:41,760
Speaker 1: four or five two. He was running faster and four

2015
01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:43,920
Speaker 1: or five two on that touchdown run, like there was

2016
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:48,000
Speaker 1: adrenaline flowing through that guy's veins and he might have

2017
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:50,280
Speaker 1: knocked a tenth off. He was running low four four

2018
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:51,920
Speaker 1: as it looked like to me. Yeah, there, it looked

2019
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:54,800
Speaker 1: like early the in the down guys had angles on him,

2020
01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:57,280
Speaker 1: and then you know, I said they didn't. Then they

2021
01:37:57,320 --> 01:38:00,080
Speaker 1: didn't have angles on him, and he shifted gears and

2022
01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:02,160
Speaker 1: it was in the end zone. And I like the

2023
01:38:02,280 --> 01:38:05,000
Speaker 1: fact that, you know, in the interview after the game,

2024
01:38:05,160 --> 01:38:11,600
Speaker 1: he remained humble and was actually thanking his teammates, not

2025
01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:14,680
Speaker 1: just for the guys that blocked on the play, but

2026
01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:17,760
Speaker 1: he was thanking his teammates for being patient with him

2027
01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:20,599
Speaker 1: with all the screw ups he's made in the spring.

2028
01:38:20,680 --> 01:38:23,880
Speaker 1: In the summer. And I think the reason they are

2029
01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:26,680
Speaker 1: patient with him is because how about we drop you

2030
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:28,920
Speaker 1: in a brand new sport you've never played in your life,

2031
01:38:29,040 --> 01:38:32,120
Speaker 1: never learned about in your life, never saw on a chalkboard,

2032
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:34,760
Speaker 1: never saw a video, or have a coach walk it,

2033
01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:37,720
Speaker 1: walk you through it. Yeah. I mean it's like Coach

2034
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:39,920
Speaker 1: McDermott said about a week or two ago, this guy

2035
01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:41,479
Speaker 1: didn't know what an A gap, a B gap or

2036
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:44,600
Speaker 1: a C gap was, and now he's got to know

2037
01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:48,680
Speaker 1: what those are, know how to read a defense and

2038
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:52,000
Speaker 1: then execute in the snap of a finger. And I

2039
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:55,200
Speaker 1: was encouraged to know that before that play he saw

2040
01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:58,320
Speaker 1: the overload and knew that there was probably going to

2041
01:38:58,360 --> 01:39:01,400
Speaker 1: be a cutback lane for him, and he hit it. Yes,

2042
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:04,920
Speaker 1: I mean without any hesitation. We mentioned this as well.

2043
01:39:05,080 --> 01:39:07,960
Speaker 1: Right when you saw the handoff him between he and

2044
01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:12,840
Speaker 1: Tyree Jackson wasn't really a smooth He almost had to

2045
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:15,320
Speaker 1: gut the ball end over end or something in his

2046
01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:18,880
Speaker 1: He was carrying it like an hourglass at the beginning

2047
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:21,879
Speaker 1: there right right, and then had to get it secured

2048
01:39:21,920 --> 01:39:24,519
Speaker 1: the proper way. But he was carrying it like Tiki

2049
01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:27,160
Speaker 1: Barber was way up high. Remember when Tike Barber had

2050
01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:30,000
Speaker 1: all his fumbling problems, and he fixed it by carrying

2051
01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:32,760
Speaker 1: it way up here, like almost on his shoulder pad,

2052
01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:35,479
Speaker 1: you know, just to the right of his uh, you know,

2053
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:37,880
Speaker 1: his stern him there, and he had it up there

2054
01:39:37,960 --> 01:39:40,280
Speaker 1: the whole time and it was not coming down. Yeah,

2055
01:39:40,320 --> 01:39:42,720
Speaker 1: the run was great. The reaction was great, um, and

2056
01:39:42,920 --> 01:39:45,920
Speaker 1: the pictures, as you mentioned, that come from the reaction

2057
01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:48,200
Speaker 1: to that run are kind of amazing. And I don't

2058
01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:50,479
Speaker 1: want to make too much of it. You will accuse

2059
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:53,519
Speaker 1: me of that after I bounced the Sophie Brownie. I

2060
01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:56,920
Speaker 1: do think there's a narrative out there I'm preparing for.

2061
01:39:57,040 --> 01:40:00,160
Speaker 1: There's a narrative out there that culture doesn't matter, the

2062
01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:02,920
Speaker 1: team bonding isn't that important. But to see that team

2063
01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:04,840
Speaker 1: react the way they did to a guy who's the

2064
01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:08,280
Speaker 1: ultimate long shot to make the roster, right, yes, and

2065
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:10,680
Speaker 1: you know he's got the so you know, kind of

2066
01:40:10,720 --> 01:40:13,040
Speaker 1: a pass to get on the practice squad, okay, But

2067
01:40:13,120 --> 01:40:14,960
Speaker 1: to see the way the team reacted and the looks

2068
01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:17,640
Speaker 1: on his teammates faces, I don't want to make too

2069
01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:19,320
Speaker 1: much out of it, but it tells me something about

2070
01:40:19,320 --> 01:40:23,519
Speaker 1: the bonding that already one preseason game into it already

2071
01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:26,360
Speaker 1: exists on this rose. Well, I think I think there's

2072
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:31,200
Speaker 1: a healthy respect for Christian Wade for what he is

2073
01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:35,040
Speaker 1: trying to do. I mean, this is like one of

2074
01:40:35,080 --> 01:40:38,160
Speaker 1: these guys, you know, at twenty eight years of age,

2075
01:40:38,760 --> 01:40:41,360
Speaker 1: one of these guys who has had a wildly successful

2076
01:40:41,479 --> 01:40:45,000
Speaker 1: NFL career going and playing rugby. I mean, it's it's

2077
01:40:45,080 --> 01:40:47,559
Speaker 1: the same thing. So these guys are like, this guy's

2078
01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:50,240
Speaker 1: never played this game, he didn't grow up in this game,

2079
01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:53,559
Speaker 1: and he's trying to make this happen. Like, how can

2080
01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:55,280
Speaker 1: you not respect that? Do you know what I mean?

2081
01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:57,400
Speaker 1: Like you've got it, You've got to have nothing but

2082
01:40:57,520 --> 01:40:59,720
Speaker 1: respect for the I mean, this guy had a very

2083
01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:06,160
Speaker 1: comfortable existence in professional rugby, making good money, not in

2084
01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:09,080
Speaker 1: NFL money, but good money that he could certainly live on,

2085
01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:11,840
Speaker 1: you know, after his career is over and not really

2086
01:41:11,920 --> 01:41:14,120
Speaker 1: have to do much else. I mean, he makes decent

2087
01:41:14,160 --> 01:41:16,599
Speaker 1: money over there in rugby and had accomplished just about

2088
01:41:16,640 --> 01:41:21,640
Speaker 1: all he could accomplish in rugby. And now this guy

2089
01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:24,519
Speaker 1: is trying to have an NFL career. I don't think

2090
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:27,560
Speaker 1: you can help but have respect for a guy that

2091
01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:30,439
Speaker 1: is taking that kind of a risk with his professional

2092
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:33,960
Speaker 1: athletic career, because these guys know better than anybody how

2093
01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:36,760
Speaker 1: finite a career that is, I think, so to be

2094
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:39,120
Speaker 1: taking this chance now, you know, and you know, I

2095
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Speaker 1: know you're asking me, is there a better preseason moment

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01:41:41,240 --> 01:41:44,879
Speaker 1: I would like? In this reaction to Kyle Williams touchdown

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01:41:44,920 --> 01:41:48,680
Speaker 1: in Miami, it's the same reaction. And it's interesting too

2098
01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:51,720
Speaker 1: because Wade's been here, what not even thirteen months, let

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01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:54,320
Speaker 1: alone thirteen years, and Williams you got here in April, right,

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01:41:54,360 --> 01:41:57,600
Speaker 1: So it does say something about what they're trying to

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01:41:57,640 --> 01:42:00,080
Speaker 1: build here, and I think it says something about what

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01:42:00,240 --> 01:42:02,720
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott wants his team to look like and feel like.

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01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:05,759
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you this too, And there's a million

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01:42:05,840 --> 01:42:10,679
Speaker 1: ways to look at this. Brandon Bean in the embedded

2105
01:42:10,800 --> 01:42:15,840
Speaker 1: series said, Hey, listen, guys are gonna watch or look

2106
01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:18,640
Speaker 1: at who we pay. And when we've cut all these

2107
01:42:18,680 --> 01:42:20,920
Speaker 1: big name guys we had got our house in order

2108
01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:22,599
Speaker 1: with the salary cap, they're gonna look at who we pay.

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01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:26,080
Speaker 1: They're also gonna go out and assign free agents. When

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01:42:26,120 --> 01:42:27,840
Speaker 1: you see stuff like this, and when you have an

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01:42:27,880 --> 01:42:32,439
Speaker 1: atmosphere like this, I think from my experience, word gets

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01:42:32,479 --> 01:42:35,840
Speaker 1: around what kind of life you can live here in

2113
01:42:35,880 --> 01:42:39,320
Speaker 1: Buffalo on this team in this environment. Well that and

2114
01:42:39,439 --> 01:42:43,400
Speaker 1: I think also there has been somewhat of a philosophical

2115
01:42:43,640 --> 01:42:48,519
Speaker 1: shift with this coaching staff and this regime in terms

2116
01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:54,519
Speaker 1: of how they pitch competition to the players on this roster.

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01:42:56,280 --> 01:43:01,280
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody is ignorant to the fact that

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01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:06,120
Speaker 1: this is still a cutthroat leak. You got to perform

2119
01:43:06,760 --> 01:43:09,720
Speaker 1: or you're not on a roster, and everybody knows that.

2120
01:43:10,560 --> 01:43:15,479
Speaker 1: But the way these players interact with one another, even

2121
01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:20,200
Speaker 1: though they're in the throes of a tight competition, whether

2122
01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:23,800
Speaker 1: it's right tackle or cornerback, somebody's going to be here

2123
01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:27,120
Speaker 1: and somebody's not the way, but the way that group,

2124
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:30,639
Speaker 1: whether it's the cornerbacks, whether it's the offensive tackles who

2125
01:43:30,640 --> 01:43:33,360
Speaker 1: are in direct competition with one another, the right guard

2126
01:43:33,439 --> 01:43:37,560
Speaker 1: competition that's going on right now, whatever competition it is,

2127
01:43:37,960 --> 01:43:42,519
Speaker 1: there are guys who are literally battling each other every day,

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01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:46,799
Speaker 1: rep for rep, But after practice is over, they're watching

2129
01:43:46,880 --> 01:43:50,120
Speaker 1: practice film together. They're trying to make each other better.

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01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:54,960
Speaker 1: That has not previously existed here in the previous five

2131
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:57,920
Speaker 1: or six coaching regimes it was kill or be killed,

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01:43:58,680 --> 01:44:02,240
Speaker 1: and that is not how this team operates. And I

2133
01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:06,880
Speaker 1: think the reason why is because of Coach McDermott's willingness

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01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:14,000
Speaker 1: to add love to the equation as Pollyanna and as

2135
01:44:14,120 --> 01:44:17,960
Speaker 1: rose colored glasses as it might sound. From the very beginning,

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01:44:18,160 --> 01:44:20,960
Speaker 1: he said, look, we're going to be a team that

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01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:23,400
Speaker 1: not only respects one another, but we're gonna love each

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01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:25,840
Speaker 1: other also. And he might have got a couple of

2139
01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:28,560
Speaker 1: cross side looks the first time he mentioned that, but

2140
01:44:28,720 --> 01:44:32,120
Speaker 1: he backed it up himself. Every time he huddles those

2141
01:44:32,160 --> 01:44:35,120
Speaker 1: guys up before a break, whether they're going away after minicamp,

2142
01:44:35,560 --> 01:44:38,439
Speaker 1: whether they're going away on a bye week, he tells them,

2143
01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:43,880
Speaker 1: don't make any kind of decision that's gonna hurt your family. Here,

2144
01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:46,439
Speaker 1: he goes, because I know I'm not going to make

2145
01:44:46,479 --> 01:44:49,680
Speaker 1: any of those decisions while I'm away. I'm not going

2146
01:44:49,720 --> 01:44:52,400
Speaker 1: to make a decision that's gonna hurt this team. Don't

2147
01:44:52,439 --> 01:44:55,439
Speaker 1: you do that either, Because we all everybody looking at

2148
01:44:55,439 --> 01:44:57,679
Speaker 1: each other, we all love each other here. So let's

2149
01:44:57,720 --> 01:44:59,800
Speaker 1: do right by the people you're staring at right now,

2150
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:03,160
Speaker 1: because these are the guys that matter, and this team matters,

2151
01:45:03,760 --> 01:45:07,080
Speaker 1: and that's a different way of pitching it two players,

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01:45:07,439 --> 01:45:09,639
Speaker 1: to hold them accountable, have love for the guy that's

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01:45:09,720 --> 01:45:12,439
Speaker 1: next to you. And you know fans might look at

2154
01:45:12,479 --> 01:45:15,000
Speaker 1: that and say, come on, these are football players. We've

2155
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:19,120
Speaker 1: got barbarians out there. It works here and it's ingrained

2156
01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:22,000
Speaker 1: now and it makes a difference. I'll tell you why

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01:45:22,040 --> 01:45:24,160
Speaker 1: it works is because there are a certain time when

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01:45:24,200 --> 01:45:26,599
Speaker 1: you're you're you're in pictured. All these guys, all ninety

2159
01:45:26,640 --> 01:45:29,559
Speaker 1: of them, visioned themselves on the fifty three of playing

2160
01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:31,800
Speaker 1: with these guys being in the on the team. That's

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01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:35,960
Speaker 1: how you get through every day. And the reason you

2162
01:45:36,479 --> 01:45:39,080
Speaker 1: want it to be exactly the way you described is

2163
01:45:39,160 --> 01:45:43,280
Speaker 1: because you know it's gonna hurt, and it's it's not

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01:45:43,400 --> 01:45:46,080
Speaker 1: gonna feel good. There's gonna be down times, up down,

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01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:50,600
Speaker 1: up times, down times. There's gonna be physical duress. And

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01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:52,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to call it, I don't want to

2167
01:45:52,439 --> 01:45:54,880
Speaker 1: be melodramatic, but you're gonna be suffering a little bit.

2168
01:45:57,240 --> 01:45:59,920
Speaker 1: You don't want to go through that in an environ

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01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:01,720
Speaker 1: and other than when you have other guys who were

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01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:03,960
Speaker 1: willing to do that for you. If you're gonna do that,

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01:46:04,280 --> 01:46:06,280
Speaker 1: and you're gonna ask me to sell out for these guys,

2172
01:46:07,439 --> 01:46:09,400
Speaker 1: you have to know they're doing it for me. And

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01:46:09,520 --> 01:46:11,400
Speaker 1: it's to a point now where it even goes beyond

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01:46:11,400 --> 01:46:13,160
Speaker 1: the field. And I wrote about this and I quoted

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01:46:13,160 --> 01:46:15,280
Speaker 1: those players when I had eight players telling me about

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01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:18,760
Speaker 1: difference between twenty seventeen and twenty nineteen. You can probably

2177
01:46:18,800 --> 01:46:20,560
Speaker 1: still dig it up on the site somewhere, but you know,

2178
01:46:20,640 --> 01:46:24,200
Speaker 1: in talking about the love that coach wants players to

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01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:27,560
Speaker 1: have for one another, it goes beyond the field. You know,

2180
01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:30,599
Speaker 1: somebody's wife is you know, under the weather or something,

2181
01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:34,439
Speaker 1: and you know they got three kids. Some teammates bringing

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01:46:34,439 --> 01:46:36,920
Speaker 1: dinner over for them because he knows, he knows his

2183
01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:38,960
Speaker 1: teammate has got his hands full with three kids and

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01:46:39,040 --> 01:46:41,479
Speaker 1: a wife who's in bed with the flu or whatever.

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01:46:41,760 --> 01:46:44,040
Speaker 1: He's bringing dinner over that night. Like those are things

2186
01:46:44,120 --> 01:46:47,280
Speaker 1: that have that have not happened here maybe since going

2187
01:46:47,360 --> 01:46:48,760
Speaker 1: back to his teams, do you know what I mean?

2188
01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:52,240
Speaker 1: Like there was not there was that did not exist here.

2189
01:46:52,479 --> 01:46:54,800
Speaker 1: It didn't even exist from one side of the ball

2190
01:46:54,880 --> 01:46:56,640
Speaker 1: to the other. I mean there were times here were

2191
01:46:56,680 --> 01:46:59,320
Speaker 1: the offense and talk to the defense, and that was

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01:46:59,360 --> 01:47:02,400
Speaker 1: at the coach level and trick. I mean Paul Mike

2193
01:47:02,479 --> 01:47:05,120
Speaker 1: Mularkey had to inherit a defensive staff that didn't want

2194
01:47:05,120 --> 01:47:07,280
Speaker 1: to know him from Adam right right. Chris Brown is

2195
01:47:07,320 --> 01:47:09,320
Speaker 1: with US Bills inside a Buffalo Bills dot com. We've

2196
01:47:09,320 --> 01:47:11,320
Speaker 1: talked about the feel good moment in last night's game

2197
01:47:11,640 --> 01:47:13,760
Speaker 1: our Twitter question and you can weigh in if you

2198
01:47:13,800 --> 01:47:15,519
Speaker 1: have a comment or question. We got time for a

2199
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Speaker 1: couple of phone calls here eight fifty toll free one

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01:47:19,000 --> 01:47:22,439
Speaker 1: eight eight eighty fifty two five fifty. What's the biggest

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01:47:22,439 --> 01:47:24,400
Speaker 1: takeaway from last night's win? Chris, let me ask you

2202
01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:26,760
Speaker 1: that question. We know what the field good moment was.

2203
01:47:26,880 --> 01:47:29,040
Speaker 1: It was great, the reaction was great. But the biggest

2204
01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:33,160
Speaker 1: takeaway you had from last night's game two, how the

2205
01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:38,640
Speaker 1: rookie draft class flashed last night almost from top to bottom. Yep.

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01:47:39,280 --> 01:47:44,000
Speaker 1: And number two, how Indianapolis could not run the football right.

2207
01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:48,360
Speaker 1: The run defense was a very encouraging sign for me,

2208
01:47:48,800 --> 01:47:51,880
Speaker 1: particularly in the red zone. You know they had they

2209
01:47:51,960 --> 01:47:54,640
Speaker 1: got handed a short field after that Aaron snap on

2210
01:47:54,720 --> 01:47:57,200
Speaker 1: the shotgun play and they held them to a field

2211
01:47:57,240 --> 01:47:59,519
Speaker 1: goal there and that's when the twos and the threes

2212
01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:04,160
Speaker 1: are in um. But here here you go. Start of

2213
01:48:04,200 --> 01:48:06,840
Speaker 1: the game when the ones and the twos are largely

2214
01:48:06,920 --> 01:48:09,720
Speaker 1: still in the game. And I know Marlon Mack did

2215
01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:12,759
Speaker 1: not start for the Colts, but you know, no Jerry Hughes,

2216
01:48:13,040 --> 01:48:17,080
Speaker 1: no Lorenzo Alexander, no Micah Hyde. So the Bills had

2217
01:48:17,080 --> 01:48:21,200
Speaker 1: their shares starters out also, Okay, first six carries for

2218
01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:26,000
Speaker 1: the Colts last night minus two plus one, plus two,

2219
01:48:26,439 --> 01:48:30,880
Speaker 1: minus one plus one, no game. I know it's a

2220
01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:33,960
Speaker 1: small sample size, but I really liked what I saw

2221
01:48:34,080 --> 01:48:37,599
Speaker 1: from the runfront defensively, um, and I thought the defense

2222
01:48:37,720 --> 01:48:41,160
Speaker 1: was locking it down on the whole third down defense.

2223
01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:43,120
Speaker 1: I mean, the Colts did not get a third down

2224
01:48:43,200 --> 01:48:46,080
Speaker 1: conversion until one forty eight left and a half right,

2225
01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:49,880
Speaker 1: That's pretty good even in the preseason. Yeah, they got

2226
01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:51,840
Speaker 1: a first down on the second play from scrumage. You

2227
01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:54,080
Speaker 1: hit that Brissette hit the little crossing route and that

2228
01:48:54,200 --> 01:48:57,040
Speaker 1: was hit until just before halftime. They could not stay

2229
01:48:57,080 --> 01:48:59,000
Speaker 1: on the field. Um. And then just the way the

2230
01:48:59,120 --> 01:49:02,080
Speaker 1: rookies flashed for the Bills, I mean, Oliver had a

2231
01:49:02,160 --> 01:49:04,200
Speaker 1: heck of a matchup with Quenton Nelson. Quentn Nelson might

2232
01:49:04,240 --> 01:49:06,840
Speaker 1: be the best guard in football already in year two.

2233
01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:10,000
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he is a stunt and he handled

2234
01:49:10,040 --> 01:49:13,240
Speaker 1: Oliver all by himself. Right. He's a special player. I

2235
01:49:13,320 --> 01:49:15,519
Speaker 1: mean that is he is. I mean that is a

2236
01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:19,920
Speaker 1: top five linemen in the league. I don't care what

2237
01:49:20,040 --> 01:49:23,280
Speaker 1: position you're talking about, top five linemen in the league.

2238
01:49:23,400 --> 01:49:27,600
Speaker 1: He is unbelievable. UM. And Oliver didn't get embarrassed, but

2239
01:49:27,920 --> 01:49:30,840
Speaker 1: he was neutralized. UM. I don't think he was embarrassed,

2240
01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:34,200
Speaker 1: but he was stalemated for the most part there. And

2241
01:49:34,479 --> 01:49:38,080
Speaker 1: you can understand why. I thought Cody Ford did fine

2242
01:49:38,479 --> 01:49:42,519
Speaker 1: playing both guard and tackle with the second unit, with

2243
01:49:42,680 --> 01:49:44,920
Speaker 1: the second unit to keep him fresh at tackle, because

2244
01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:47,160
Speaker 1: I think he's still part of that equation. I think

2245
01:49:47,240 --> 01:49:52,040
Speaker 1: there is an undecided part of this offensive line. And

2246
01:49:52,320 --> 01:49:54,960
Speaker 1: I think we're getting to the nitty gritty time here

2247
01:49:55,040 --> 01:49:58,400
Speaker 1: where coaches are going to start getting nervous because they

2248
01:49:58,479 --> 01:50:00,840
Speaker 1: want the five together, they want them getting their reps.

2249
01:50:01,200 --> 01:50:03,759
Speaker 1: We need to know who the five are, and injuries

2250
01:50:03,760 --> 01:50:06,599
Speaker 1: are still keeping that from happening, whether it's Mitch Morris

2251
01:50:06,640 --> 01:50:10,040
Speaker 1: at center or Spencer Long who's finally coming back into

2252
01:50:10,080 --> 01:50:12,920
Speaker 1: the equation, Feliciano coming back from the shoulder. But there

2253
01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:15,120
Speaker 1: we are again, guys. We talked about this when I

2254
01:50:15,200 --> 01:50:18,639
Speaker 1: was on the show earlier in the week in Secie

2255
01:50:18,640 --> 01:50:20,880
Speaker 1: at right tackle, Ford at right guard. That just started

2256
01:50:20,880 --> 01:50:23,760
Speaker 1: happening on Monday, and they have to start that was

2257
01:50:24,080 --> 01:50:26,080
Speaker 1: That's what we knew was going to happen with the

2258
01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:28,000
Speaker 1: line going into the game last night. And then all

2259
01:50:28,040 --> 01:50:30,720
Speaker 1: of a sudden, there's Feliciano at center. Yeah, it's like,

2260
01:50:30,920 --> 01:50:33,960
Speaker 1: holy crap, there's another thing. Yeah, another shuffle of the

2261
01:50:34,040 --> 01:50:37,240
Speaker 1: deck and Bodin's reduced to second and third team, and

2262
01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:39,360
Speaker 1: you know, I know you don't want to read too

2263
01:50:39,439 --> 01:50:40,720
Speaker 1: much into it, but I don't know if that's a

2264
01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:43,320
Speaker 1: great sign for Bodine, who took a lot of the

2265
01:50:43,360 --> 01:50:46,080
Speaker 1: first and second team reps in practice all week. Guy's

2266
01:50:46,120 --> 01:50:47,600
Speaker 1: busting his tail and then all of a sudden the

2267
01:50:47,680 --> 01:50:50,880
Speaker 1: second team. It's like, oh, that can't be it can't

2268
01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:52,479
Speaker 1: be read. It's a very good thing for him. I

2269
01:50:52,560 --> 01:50:54,120
Speaker 1: think the problem is and I don't know if the

2270
01:50:54,280 --> 01:50:56,280
Speaker 1: problem it felt bad for him, right, Frank, It is

2271
01:50:56,320 --> 01:50:58,000
Speaker 1: either a problem or how you look at it. I

2272
01:50:58,040 --> 01:51:00,760
Speaker 1: think the I think Cody Ford's probably the best guard

2273
01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:05,160
Speaker 1: they've got on their squad, him maybe and maybe Spain

2274
01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:07,080
Speaker 1: or the way they see it right well, and the

2275
01:51:07,160 --> 01:51:10,280
Speaker 1: problem too, is Long, who might be your next best

2276
01:51:10,360 --> 01:51:14,400
Speaker 1: guard option, has been nicked up with the NIE. If

2277
01:51:14,479 --> 01:51:16,960
Speaker 1: Ford is your best guard on the team, he's also

2278
01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:20,639
Speaker 1: one of your three best tackles, right, So now who

2279
01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:23,360
Speaker 1: is a So I think they're like this because they

2280
01:51:23,439 --> 01:51:25,960
Speaker 1: have not seen enough of Long. I think when they

2281
01:51:26,080 --> 01:51:28,400
Speaker 1: signed Spencer Long they're like, this guy's gonna be in

2282
01:51:28,439 --> 01:51:30,080
Speaker 1: the mix to be one of our starting guards. I

2283
01:51:30,120 --> 01:51:33,240
Speaker 1: think they thought that from the outset, but time on

2284
01:51:33,320 --> 01:51:36,000
Speaker 1: the field, it's just hasn't been there. So now they've

2285
01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:39,320
Speaker 1: got a cross train Ford where he's in an if

2286
01:51:39,400 --> 01:51:42,280
Speaker 1: then situation, you know what I mean. It's like I'm

2287
01:51:42,360 --> 01:51:45,400
Speaker 1: channeling my math course one teacher in the ninth grade

2288
01:51:45,520 --> 01:51:48,120
Speaker 1: right now, if then probabilities and all that stuff. But no,

2289
01:51:48,439 --> 01:51:51,320
Speaker 1: he's in an if then situation. If Spencer Long is

2290
01:51:51,360 --> 01:51:54,080
Speaker 1: healthy and we like what we see, Cody Ford'll play

2291
01:51:54,160 --> 01:51:56,519
Speaker 1: right tackle. If Spencer Long can't stay on the field

2292
01:51:56,560 --> 01:51:58,439
Speaker 1: long enough or isn't doing enough of what we need

2293
01:51:58,520 --> 01:52:00,519
Speaker 1: to see from him at right guard, well then he's

2294
01:52:00,520 --> 01:52:02,280
Speaker 1: gonna play right guard and tie and Seck's gonna be

2295
01:52:02,280 --> 01:52:05,840
Speaker 1: the right tackle. And that's what's still being juggled right

2296
01:52:05,880 --> 01:52:09,160
Speaker 1: comes down to is Tye and Secki a better right

2297
01:52:09,240 --> 01:52:13,439
Speaker 1: tackle than Spencer Long is a guard? Because then whichever

2298
01:52:13,560 --> 01:52:16,760
Speaker 1: one is worse were importantly what's the best what's the

2299
01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:20,000
Speaker 1: better combination Forden and Zeki or Long and ford right?

2300
01:52:20,200 --> 01:52:21,760
Speaker 1: You know? That's and you know, and when the heck

2301
01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:23,800
Speaker 1: is Mitch Morris coming back, that's the other one. That's

2302
01:52:23,880 --> 01:52:27,599
Speaker 1: because now Spencer Long could be in the center conversation too.

2303
01:52:27,760 --> 01:52:30,080
Speaker 1: That's exactly he played center for the Jets last year

2304
01:52:30,880 --> 01:52:34,479
Speaker 1: and has done it. Yeah, and so and then you

2305
01:52:34,600 --> 01:52:37,120
Speaker 1: get into okay, is Spencer Long your backup center and

2306
01:52:37,160 --> 01:52:40,040
Speaker 1: you're starting guard or you're starting center and your backup guard.

2307
01:52:40,120 --> 01:52:42,000
Speaker 1: So get ready, So get ready for this. And I'm

2308
01:52:42,040 --> 01:52:43,599
Speaker 1: not saying this is going to happen, but I wouldn't

2309
01:52:43,600 --> 01:52:47,439
Speaker 1: be surprised if it does. Feliciano plays center last night,

2310
01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:50,400
Speaker 1: if Morrise is still not ready, and I don't know

2311
01:52:50,439 --> 01:52:52,040
Speaker 1: there's any indication that he's going to be ready to

2312
01:52:52,120 --> 01:52:55,800
Speaker 1: play in a preseason game next Friday, I wouldn't anticipate

2313
01:52:55,880 --> 01:52:58,120
Speaker 1: that even if he somehow gets back in the practice

2314
01:52:58,120 --> 01:53:00,800
Speaker 1: setting this week, Spencer Long to be your starting center

2315
01:53:00,960 --> 01:53:03,000
Speaker 1: next week, that's right, you know? And then now you've

2316
01:53:03,040 --> 01:53:06,240
Speaker 1: got that thing going on there, and then his FOURD

2317
01:53:06,240 --> 01:53:09,880
Speaker 1: at guard again. Because of that, he might be through

2318
01:53:09,880 --> 01:53:14,559
Speaker 1: the draft class singletary, Hello, are we all on board now?

2319
01:53:15,040 --> 01:53:16,760
Speaker 1: I mean I don't think anybody was off the train.

2320
01:53:17,000 --> 01:53:20,240
Speaker 1: I think people were waiting and seeing. But I told

2321
01:53:20,280 --> 01:53:21,960
Speaker 1: you that was the guy I wanted to watch last night.

2322
01:53:22,000 --> 01:53:24,200
Speaker 1: And I think now fans understand why he really had

2323
01:53:24,240 --> 01:53:26,639
Speaker 1: a nice series there. They've used him alan they threw

2324
01:53:26,680 --> 01:53:30,639
Speaker 1: it to seven out of eight plays. Yeah, and there

2325
01:53:30,760 --> 01:53:32,800
Speaker 1: wasn't a whole lot to work with at times when

2326
01:53:32,840 --> 01:53:34,840
Speaker 1: he got the ball. And you want to talk about

2327
01:53:34,840 --> 01:53:37,160
Speaker 1: a kid that can make something out of nothing, Yeah,

2328
01:53:37,240 --> 01:53:40,880
Speaker 1: he's good like that. I mean, look, I don't want

2329
01:53:40,880 --> 01:53:43,200
Speaker 1: to make comparisons or anything, but the way he's able

2330
01:53:43,240 --> 01:53:46,200
Speaker 1: to find creases and get little gains when maybe there

2331
01:53:46,200 --> 01:53:47,920
Speaker 1: should he should be dropped for a loss or two.

2332
01:53:47,960 --> 01:53:50,360
Speaker 1: When he gets one or two in the positive direction,

2333
01:53:50,600 --> 01:53:52,639
Speaker 1: you know, a's second and eight instead of second and twelve.

2334
01:53:52,920 --> 01:53:55,200
Speaker 1: That's a big deal. In the NFL, that is a

2335
01:53:55,360 --> 01:53:58,680
Speaker 1: big deal. And just seeing him worm his way out

2336
01:53:58,720 --> 01:54:02,720
Speaker 1: of problems or you know, a miss assignment somewhere and

2337
01:54:02,920 --> 01:54:07,200
Speaker 1: still fall forward or get two or three that's a

2338
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:10,000
Speaker 1: big deal for a rookie running back to know how

2339
01:54:10,080 --> 01:54:12,559
Speaker 1: to do that. And that was his calling card at

2340
01:54:12,600 --> 01:54:16,400
Speaker 1: Florida Atlantic. Um a guy that would make get you

2341
01:54:16,560 --> 01:54:19,160
Speaker 1: more than you rightfully should have got. And you know

2342
01:54:19,200 --> 01:54:22,160
Speaker 1: who does that really well? Frank Gore has done that

2343
01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:24,519
Speaker 1: really well for a long time. It's supposed to be

2344
01:54:24,560 --> 01:54:26,639
Speaker 1: a two yard game. He gets four. Oh yeah, that's true.

2345
01:54:26,720 --> 01:54:28,400
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, he gets contact. He's right,

2346
01:54:28,439 --> 01:54:34,200
Speaker 1: But I think Singletary, No, I'm saying he's got a

2347
01:54:34,200 --> 01:54:36,760
Speaker 1: little bit of both those guys, Shawan and Singletary. I'm

2348
01:54:37,160 --> 01:54:40,160
Speaker 1: Lashawn and Gore in him. He's he's shifty and tough

2349
01:54:40,240 --> 01:54:43,880
Speaker 1: to tackle in a tight space like Lashawn. But last

2350
01:54:43,960 --> 01:54:46,360
Speaker 1: night he ran some physical power runs with some guys

2351
01:54:46,440 --> 01:54:48,200
Speaker 1: hanging on him in tight spaces and got a little

2352
01:54:48,280 --> 01:54:50,680
Speaker 1: bit of something that wasn't there and catching out of

2353
01:54:50,680 --> 01:54:53,440
Speaker 1: the back game thing that he was not asked to

2354
01:54:53,480 --> 01:54:55,200
Speaker 1: do with Florida Atlantic. And I don't know what the

2355
01:54:55,240 --> 01:54:57,760
Speaker 1: Hellane Kiffin was thinking down there. Throw that kid the ball.

2356
01:54:57,880 --> 01:55:00,720
Speaker 1: Holy cow, he missed the boat on that lane. That's

2357
01:55:00,760 --> 01:55:03,040
Speaker 1: going on lane back end of the draft class and

2358
01:55:03,320 --> 01:55:06,400
Speaker 1: even you know Vashon Joseph got the intention of our

2359
01:55:06,440 --> 01:55:09,840
Speaker 1: boy Greg Cosal last hour fifth round pickshon Joseph had

2360
01:55:09,880 --> 01:55:13,800
Speaker 1: really good moments. He's aggressive, and so I think he's

2361
01:55:13,840 --> 01:55:15,960
Speaker 1: always gonna be around the ball. But you know, it

2362
01:55:16,040 --> 01:55:18,360
Speaker 1: was around the ball even more than him. Jaquan Johnson

2363
01:55:18,520 --> 01:55:22,120
Speaker 1: led the team and tackle Jaquan Johnson. Granted, he got

2364
01:55:22,160 --> 01:55:23,680
Speaker 1: a lot of playing time in the second half, so

2365
01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:26,240
Speaker 1: you would anticipate his numbers would be high at the

2366
01:55:26,360 --> 01:55:29,920
Speaker 1: end of the game. This kid is around the ball

2367
01:55:30,200 --> 01:55:35,880
Speaker 1: a lot. He's very instinctive, very instinctive player, which is

2368
01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:37,920
Speaker 1: hard to kind of get a handle on in the

2369
01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:41,400
Speaker 1: practice setting, especially going against an offense you've seen every

2370
01:55:41,520 --> 01:55:44,040
Speaker 1: day day. Like it's hard to judge whether a player

2371
01:55:44,480 --> 01:55:48,120
Speaker 1: has instincts like that. Jikwan Johnson has instinct because he's

2372
01:55:48,120 --> 01:55:51,280
Speaker 1: not the fastest guy, right and he might not be

2373
01:55:51,720 --> 01:55:55,120
Speaker 1: supremely athletic, but he's athletic enough to play safety, and

2374
01:55:55,240 --> 01:55:59,080
Speaker 1: his instincts let him play faster, and that's why he's

2375
01:55:59,120 --> 01:56:00,960
Speaker 1: around the ball as much as he was last night.

2376
01:56:01,000 --> 01:56:03,960
Speaker 1: So I liked Darryl Johnson, and I think some of

2377
01:56:04,040 --> 01:56:06,800
Speaker 1: his flashing was obvious because it's right around the ball

2378
01:56:06,840 --> 01:56:09,640
Speaker 1: all the time, I might have liked Jikwan Johnson even

2379
01:56:09,720 --> 01:56:12,440
Speaker 1: better for what he was able to show through the

2380
01:56:12,520 --> 01:56:14,960
Speaker 1: course of his playing time. Last night, everybody could see

2381
01:56:15,040 --> 01:56:17,400
Speaker 1: Daryl Johnson, and I get it he played well. But

2382
01:56:17,720 --> 01:56:19,760
Speaker 1: I was thinking last night I had the thought in

2383
01:56:19,840 --> 01:56:22,160
Speaker 1: my head called on the game, watching jikuon Johnson, the

2384
01:56:22,240 --> 01:56:25,400
Speaker 1: Miami safety, thinking about our conversation with Ed Reid. Remember

2385
01:56:25,440 --> 01:56:27,480
Speaker 1: how Ed Reid told us how much he worked with him,

2386
01:56:27,680 --> 01:56:29,920
Speaker 1: And when Brownie talks about his instincts, you're gonna I've

2387
01:56:29,920 --> 01:56:32,320
Speaker 1: talked to myself. I wonder, is that just from being

2388
01:56:32,320 --> 01:56:34,840
Speaker 1: around Ed Reid he has again instinctively knows where to go.

2389
01:56:35,000 --> 01:56:37,080
Speaker 1: It's about having an I guess maybe I don't know.

2390
01:56:37,360 --> 01:56:39,360
Speaker 1: I can't speak to him, but maybe having a mentor

2391
01:56:39,480 --> 01:56:41,200
Speaker 1: like Ed Reid gives him the freedom to get in

2392
01:56:41,240 --> 01:56:43,160
Speaker 1: the right mindset to let him play like that because

2393
01:56:43,200 --> 01:56:45,800
Speaker 1: it's certainly in his ability. Yeah, I believe what I think.

2394
01:56:45,920 --> 01:56:50,640
Speaker 1: If anything, Ed has probably convinced him to trust what

2395
01:56:50,800 --> 01:56:54,040
Speaker 1: you see because you have an ability to see it early.

2396
01:56:54,760 --> 01:56:57,960
Speaker 1: And that's what makes him an NFL caliber player, because

2397
01:56:58,000 --> 01:57:00,120
Speaker 1: if you look at him on a stop watch and

2398
01:57:00,280 --> 01:57:03,280
Speaker 1: you look at him in all of the combined drills.

2399
01:57:04,480 --> 01:57:06,880
Speaker 1: Some people would wonder if he's if he could measure

2400
01:57:06,960 --> 01:57:10,240
Speaker 1: up he's like, but then you watch him play. He's

2401
01:57:10,280 --> 01:57:14,200
Speaker 1: not an athlete. He's a football player. That's what's in

2402
01:57:14,240 --> 01:57:16,880
Speaker 1: the sixth round. Well, right, But yeah, he's got a

2403
01:57:16,960 --> 01:57:18,720
Speaker 1: future in this league if he keeps going the way

2404
01:57:18,760 --> 01:57:20,160
Speaker 1: he's going. Hey, I want there's a couple of others.

2405
01:57:20,160 --> 01:57:21,640
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about Chris Brown. But let's

2406
01:57:21,640 --> 01:57:23,760
Speaker 1: take a phone call here, David Florida. Go ahead, you're

2407
01:57:23,800 --> 01:57:26,040
Speaker 1: on the air of this, Dave. Hey, guys, I are

2408
01:57:26,040 --> 01:57:29,960
Speaker 1: you doing today? Great? Listen. I really disappointed. I didn't

2409
01:57:30,000 --> 01:57:33,920
Speaker 1: get they blocked the game out down here play, But

2410
01:57:34,080 --> 01:57:35,840
Speaker 1: I was calling to ask him about how my boy

2411
01:57:35,920 --> 01:57:41,360
Speaker 1: did Mulano play? And train Emmons? Did they play? Yeah?

2412
01:57:41,440 --> 01:57:43,640
Speaker 1: They were public series. They got in there, and the

2413
01:57:43,880 --> 01:57:45,880
Speaker 1: Colts came out and ran the football a lot more

2414
01:57:45,920 --> 01:57:48,240
Speaker 1: than they threw at that Jacoby Pricente taking snaps. They

2415
01:57:48,320 --> 01:57:51,320
Speaker 1: tried to hand it off a lot, and Milano and

2416
01:57:51,880 --> 01:57:55,200
Speaker 1: and Tremaine and the rest of the defense stuffed him.

2417
01:57:55,600 --> 01:57:57,680
Speaker 1: I mean, they had no shot run on the bootball.

2418
01:57:57,680 --> 01:57:59,960
Speaker 1: They could not The Colts could not run the football

2419
01:58:00,120 --> 01:58:02,960
Speaker 1: on the ones I thought ed was instinctive in reading

2420
01:58:03,000 --> 01:58:04,960
Speaker 1: those run plays. They were going to say they we

2421
01:58:05,120 --> 01:58:07,600
Speaker 1: see him every day Edmonds at camp, and wow, he's good.

2422
01:58:07,800 --> 01:58:10,120
Speaker 1: And you see him in a competitive atmosphere and I'm like, oh, yeah,

2423
01:58:10,200 --> 01:58:12,040
Speaker 1: he's really good. Yeah. They were attacking the line of

2424
01:58:12,040 --> 01:58:14,680
Speaker 1: scrimmage right at the snap. I mean they were making

2425
01:58:14,760 --> 01:58:17,480
Speaker 1: reads and and being really aggressive, and the run game

2426
01:58:17,600 --> 01:58:19,680
Speaker 1: was just completely bottled up by the cold. And I mean,

2427
01:58:19,760 --> 01:58:24,640
Speaker 1: as I was, I did my Training Camp Awards, you know, yeah,

2428
01:58:24,760 --> 01:58:26,480
Speaker 1: well we're happy to help, but I mean I was

2429
01:58:26,520 --> 01:58:30,080
Speaker 1: doing my Training Camp Awards earlier this week, and for

2430
01:58:30,200 --> 01:58:32,960
Speaker 1: most for most Promising Player, I had Josh Allen. The

2431
01:58:33,040 --> 01:58:36,800
Speaker 1: honorable mention was Tremaine Edmonds because as much as everybody's

2432
01:58:36,800 --> 01:58:39,680
Speaker 1: focused on Josh and what he needs to be for

2433
01:58:39,800 --> 01:58:44,520
Speaker 1: this team, Tremaine Edmonds could explode this year as a

2434
01:58:44,560 --> 01:58:46,720
Speaker 1: player on defense for this team. Just a few minutes

2435
01:58:46,800 --> 01:58:49,160
Speaker 1: left with Chris Brown, Bills Insider Buffalo Bills dot Com,

2436
01:58:49,560 --> 01:58:53,200
Speaker 1: the receiving battle and he standouts any movement any well,

2437
01:58:53,240 --> 01:58:55,240
Speaker 1: I thought Mackenzie flashed and I thought he had to

2438
01:58:55,440 --> 01:58:58,440
Speaker 1: quite frankly, he had to make plays. Here's the thing

2439
01:58:58,800 --> 01:59:02,640
Speaker 1: with Isaiah McKenzie. He's the same guy as Ray Ray

2440
01:59:02,720 --> 01:59:06,040
Speaker 1: McLeod and the same guy as Victor Bolden Jr. Who's

2441
01:59:06,040 --> 01:59:08,520
Speaker 1: further down on the depth chart, you know, diminutive type

2442
01:59:08,560 --> 01:59:14,200
Speaker 1: player who has to get separation and give a coaching

2443
01:59:14,320 --> 01:59:18,520
Speaker 1: staff confidence and a quarterback confidence that even though he's

2444
01:59:18,520 --> 01:59:21,840
Speaker 1: a smurf, as Sean McDermott likes to call them, that

2445
01:59:22,000 --> 01:59:25,720
Speaker 1: he can win and make plays for you outside. I

2446
01:59:25,800 --> 01:59:28,400
Speaker 1: think I don't think there's any doubt the kid can

2447
01:59:28,480 --> 01:59:31,320
Speaker 1: run a crossing pattern and get open for you. But

2448
01:59:31,600 --> 01:59:36,280
Speaker 1: outside along the sideline, when a dB has inside leverage

2449
01:59:36,320 --> 01:59:38,520
Speaker 1: on you, can I drop it in the bucket and

2450
01:59:38,560 --> 01:59:41,480
Speaker 1: can you make a play? And he showed an ability

2451
01:59:41,600 --> 01:59:43,520
Speaker 1: on a one or two plays to do that. Make

2452
01:59:43,600 --> 01:59:47,320
Speaker 1: plays outside near the sideline areas outside the numbers. That's

2453
01:59:47,320 --> 01:59:51,200
Speaker 1: where he's got to show up to convince the coaches. Yeah,

2454
01:59:51,280 --> 01:59:52,600
Speaker 1: you may want to put me in the slot, but

2455
01:59:52,680 --> 01:59:54,320
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley is going to be there, you know what

2456
01:59:54,360 --> 01:59:57,480
Speaker 1: I mean, right, Convince them you can be a fifth

2457
01:59:57,560 --> 02:00:00,400
Speaker 1: wide out and maybe if we go for or wide

2458
02:00:00,440 --> 02:00:02,600
Speaker 1: in a game plan in a given week, you can

2459
02:00:02,680 --> 02:00:04,720
Speaker 1: be one of those guys outside that can still make

2460
02:00:04,760 --> 02:00:07,160
Speaker 1: plays for us. Even though you're small, And he said

2461
02:00:07,200 --> 02:00:08,960
Speaker 1: after the game, because we were talking to him a

2462
02:00:08,960 --> 02:00:12,480
Speaker 1: little bit, he said, John Brown has helped him enormously

2463
02:00:13,440 --> 02:00:17,360
Speaker 1: in little tricks of the trade to get the separation

2464
02:00:17,480 --> 02:00:20,920
Speaker 1: because McKenzie is a player who has to get separation

2465
02:00:21,360 --> 02:00:24,680
Speaker 1: when there are contested balls. He's not gonna win a

2466
02:00:24,760 --> 02:00:27,400
Speaker 1: lot of those unless he's a step or two away

2467
02:00:27,560 --> 02:00:29,920
Speaker 1: from the dB. He can't have a guy on his

2468
02:00:30,000 --> 02:00:33,640
Speaker 1: back shoulder and make a play as easily as maybe

2469
02:00:33,680 --> 02:00:36,080
Speaker 1: a z A Jones or Robert Foster, just because he

2470
02:00:36,160 --> 02:00:38,800
Speaker 1: doesn't have the reach to get to the ball before him.

2471
02:00:38,840 --> 02:00:41,080
Speaker 1: So I thought he took a step in that regard

2472
02:00:41,200 --> 02:00:43,040
Speaker 1: and then also had a nice return to the wide

2473
02:00:43,080 --> 02:00:45,600
Speaker 1: side of the field. Got twenty plus yards on a

2474
02:00:45,680 --> 02:00:47,920
Speaker 1: return in the punt return game. Is he going to

2475
02:00:47,960 --> 02:00:50,440
Speaker 1: be the punt returner? Probably not, But if Andre Roberts

2476
02:00:50,480 --> 02:00:52,800
Speaker 1: gets hurt, if he's known as the next best option,

2477
02:00:53,000 --> 02:00:56,400
Speaker 1: that helps him you know who else and maybe distinguished

2478
02:00:56,480 --> 02:01:00,600
Speaker 1: himself as a guy who can get contested ball. Cam Phillips,

2479
02:01:00,680 --> 02:01:02,800
Speaker 1: who's at a solid camp good night last night. Cam

2480
02:01:02,880 --> 02:01:06,040
Speaker 1: Phillips is probably one of the smartest receivers on the roster.

2481
02:01:07,160 --> 02:01:10,040
Speaker 1: Again this is a guy like Jaquan Johnson. He's not

2482
02:01:10,120 --> 02:01:12,840
Speaker 1: gonna light up your stop watch. He's not gonna blow

2483
02:01:12,920 --> 02:01:16,000
Speaker 1: you away in a combine workout. But he's a football player.

2484
02:01:16,320 --> 02:01:18,600
Speaker 1: He's a guy that's gonna find the open spaces in

2485
02:01:18,720 --> 02:01:20,880
Speaker 1: his own coverage and sit down at the right place

2486
02:01:20,960 --> 02:01:24,320
Speaker 1: at the right time and when there's a little bit

2487
02:01:24,400 --> 02:01:26,240
Speaker 1: of extra time and he's got to work a little

2488
02:01:26,280 --> 02:01:29,160
Speaker 1: bit harder for his quarterback, he's gonna find the right

2489
02:01:29,240 --> 02:01:31,560
Speaker 1: spot in the end zone, which he did. He doubled

2490
02:01:31,600 --> 02:01:33,640
Speaker 1: back and went to the corner when he saw his

2491
02:01:33,760 --> 02:01:37,400
Speaker 1: quarterback rolling to the right and made himself available. He

2492
02:01:37,560 --> 02:01:40,200
Speaker 1: worked for his quarterback late in the play and it

2493
02:01:40,320 --> 02:01:43,320
Speaker 1: paid off for him. Ye. Yeah. He's also you know

2494
02:01:43,400 --> 02:01:47,520
Speaker 1: you talk about six foot two a ones well, Cam Phillips,

2495
02:01:48,440 --> 02:01:52,320
Speaker 1: he's not a smurf, no, he's and he's squarely built,

2496
02:01:52,440 --> 02:01:55,560
Speaker 1: you know through the shoulders, you know, he's not thick

2497
02:01:55,680 --> 02:01:57,800
Speaker 1: all the way through, but upper body, he's he's a

2498
02:01:57,840 --> 02:01:59,960
Speaker 1: little broad shoulder, more broad shoulder than some of the

2499
02:02:00,160 --> 02:02:02,520
Speaker 1: other guys. And is he gonna make the roster, I

2500
02:02:02,560 --> 02:02:05,560
Speaker 1: don't know, but he's got practice squad eligibility. That's a

2501
02:02:05,640 --> 02:02:08,480
Speaker 1: guy that you keep around in case crisis strikes and

2502
02:02:08,560 --> 02:02:10,440
Speaker 1: you have an injury rat. I'm telling somebody and one

2503
02:02:10,480 --> 02:02:12,240
Speaker 1: more guy to ask you about. I was telling somebody

2504
02:02:12,280 --> 02:02:14,800
Speaker 1: this morning, Tyree Jackson may have had more snaps last

2505
02:02:14,880 --> 02:02:16,560
Speaker 1: night than he's had through the first two weeks at camp.

2506
02:02:17,200 --> 02:02:19,680
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, you probably did. And I

2507
02:02:19,800 --> 02:02:24,000
Speaker 1: think what Tyree has to develop is a changeup or

2508
02:02:24,040 --> 02:02:28,040
Speaker 1: an off speed pitch, because holy crow, I mean, everything's

2509
02:02:28,040 --> 02:02:30,120
Speaker 1: coming out one hundred and fifty miles an hour, whether

2510
02:02:30,200 --> 02:02:32,920
Speaker 1: you're running a route to the flat, a swing pass,

2511
02:02:33,600 --> 02:02:37,120
Speaker 1: or a go route, he is winging it at you

2512
02:02:38,080 --> 02:02:40,280
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty miles an hour. He's got to

2513
02:02:40,680 --> 02:02:43,600
Speaker 1: I think he's got to get a better handle for

2514
02:02:43,720 --> 02:02:47,040
Speaker 1: the route that he's throwing it. And we're going right

2515
02:02:47,080 --> 02:02:52,560
Speaker 1: back Murph to the combine and to Steve Smith whispering

2516
02:02:52,640 --> 02:02:55,800
Speaker 1: to him, Hey, these guys are trying to make NFL

2517
02:02:55,880 --> 02:02:58,800
Speaker 1: money too. Help make them look good. Take a little

2518
02:02:58,840 --> 02:03:02,680
Speaker 1: bit off your fastball. And part of it is, you know,

2519
02:03:02,960 --> 02:03:06,360
Speaker 1: his internal clock is in hyper drive. Right, I got

2520
02:03:06,400 --> 02:03:08,200
Speaker 1: two and a half seconds, I got boom. I gotta

2521
02:03:08,200 --> 02:03:09,280
Speaker 1: get it out. You know what I mean, He's not

2522
02:03:09,360 --> 02:03:12,640
Speaker 1: even thinking about so much he's putting on the ball

2523
02:03:12,760 --> 02:03:14,160
Speaker 1: right now. He's just trying to get rid of it

2524
02:03:14,240 --> 02:03:17,040
Speaker 1: before he gets hit. So I get where his mind

2525
02:03:17,160 --> 02:03:19,440
Speaker 1: is at and where he's coming from. But if he

2526
02:03:20,360 --> 02:03:23,520
Speaker 1: understands here's my check down, I gotta get it there.

2527
02:03:23,640 --> 02:03:25,480
Speaker 1: But I've got a good arm. Let me take a

2528
02:03:25,520 --> 02:03:27,280
Speaker 1: little bit off so my guy can make a play

2529
02:03:27,320 --> 02:03:29,120
Speaker 1: after the catch. Yeah, he tried to be better off.

2530
02:03:29,200 --> 02:03:30,880
Speaker 1: He tried to hit Duke Williams on a couple of

2531
02:03:30,920 --> 02:03:33,480
Speaker 1: back shoulders last night, trying to give Duke a chance

2532
02:03:33,520 --> 02:03:36,640
Speaker 1: to make a play. But yeah, they were He was

2533
02:03:36,680 --> 02:03:39,080
Speaker 1: pretty accurate, I thought all night. But on those back shoulders,

2534
02:03:39,120 --> 02:03:40,440
Speaker 1: he was a little bit off and they had some

2535
02:03:40,600 --> 02:03:42,360
Speaker 1: velocity on him. That kind of made it hard for

2536
02:03:42,480 --> 02:03:45,920
Speaker 1: the you know, for the receiver to gather himself and

2537
02:03:46,000 --> 02:03:47,760
Speaker 1: go up and get it, because if it's not going

2538
02:03:47,800 --> 02:03:51,160
Speaker 1: to be right on target, you gotta go up instead

2539
02:03:51,200 --> 02:03:53,040
Speaker 1: of just turn and catch it off the sideline. And

2540
02:03:53,160 --> 02:03:56,360
Speaker 1: I get a feeling that the Bills know what he is.

2541
02:03:57,120 --> 02:04:01,360
Speaker 1: He's a raw developmental project, and that's why I think

2542
02:04:01,440 --> 02:04:03,720
Speaker 1: he'll probably be on the practice squad, and I think

2543
02:04:03,760 --> 02:04:06,600
Speaker 1: they're going to see let's let's see the steps he

2544
02:04:06,680 --> 02:04:11,000
Speaker 1: can take in his rookie season on the practice squad,

2545
02:04:11,120 --> 02:04:14,040
Speaker 1: run and scout team every year or every week, Let's

2546
02:04:14,080 --> 02:04:17,840
Speaker 1: see if his you know, game can develop. Let's see

2547
02:04:17,880 --> 02:04:19,680
Speaker 1: where he is next year this time, right, and so

2548
02:04:19,840 --> 02:04:22,120
Speaker 1: maybe you know, you sign him as a reserve future

2549
02:04:22,160 --> 02:04:23,760
Speaker 1: free agent at the end of this year, You'll work

2550
02:04:23,840 --> 02:04:26,240
Speaker 1: with him another offseason and let's see where he goes. Hey,

2551
02:04:26,320 --> 02:04:28,600
Speaker 1: Chris Um, I'm not looking forward to sweating all next

2552
02:04:28,600 --> 02:04:30,760
Speaker 1: week in Carolina, but I am looking just talk to

2553
02:04:30,840 --> 02:04:34,040
Speaker 1: my mom today. Triple digits, triple digits and they're on

2554
02:04:34,040 --> 02:04:37,520
Speaker 1: the condred in three. We're Inland. Yeah, I am looking

2555
02:04:37,560 --> 02:04:39,240
Speaker 1: for going to be worse problem. I'm looking forward to

2556
02:04:39,280 --> 02:04:43,320
Speaker 1: a different preseason week, Right, It'll be different practicing with

2557
02:04:43,360 --> 02:04:45,880
Speaker 1: those guys. Think they'll definitely be a lot more intensity,

2558
02:04:46,360 --> 02:04:48,560
Speaker 1: which you know makes me kind of bite my nails

2559
02:04:48,560 --> 02:04:51,120
Speaker 1: a little bit because I worry about injury, especially for

2560
02:04:51,240 --> 02:04:53,880
Speaker 1: that offensive line, which is already a little shorthanded and

2561
02:04:54,360 --> 02:04:57,640
Speaker 1: trying to find answers. It's look, I know, the whole

2562
02:04:57,720 --> 02:04:59,440
Speaker 1: reason they set this up in the first place is

2563
02:04:59,440 --> 02:05:03,680
Speaker 1: because there's mutual respect and trust between the two head coaches.

2564
02:05:03,760 --> 02:05:06,080
Speaker 1: Chiefly you know, Ron Rivera is not going to take

2565
02:05:06,120 --> 02:05:08,440
Speaker 1: any crap from his players doing stupid stuff, and neither

2566
02:05:08,480 --> 02:05:11,640
Speaker 1: his coach McDermott. So that should lend to a very

2567
02:05:11,720 --> 02:05:15,040
Speaker 1: competitive and intense atmosphere that doesn't step over the line.

2568
02:05:15,440 --> 02:05:17,120
Speaker 1: But I got news for you. When it's one hundred

2569
02:05:17,120 --> 02:05:19,680
Speaker 1: and three degrees with one hundred and ten heat index

2570
02:05:19,960 --> 02:05:23,240
Speaker 1: and seventy five percent humidity, guys are gonna get a

2571
02:05:23,280 --> 02:05:25,840
Speaker 1: little hot under the collar and some stupid stuff might happen.

2572
02:05:26,160 --> 02:05:29,560
Speaker 1: You're talking about our show, I think, yeah, well secondarily,

2573
02:05:29,600 --> 02:05:32,560
Speaker 1: but yeah, that'll be us. Thanks Brownie, Yeah, thanks Brownie.

2574
02:05:32,640 --> 02:05:35,240
Speaker 1: Chris Brown Bills Insider, Buffalo bills dot Com joining us.

2575
02:05:35,440 --> 02:05:37,160
Speaker 1: We got more to come. Come on back. One Bill's

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02:05:37,200 --> 02:05:39,360
Speaker 1: Live presented by Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive on

2577
02:05:39,440 --> 02:05:53,640
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back, John Murphy, Steve Tasker, One

2578
02:05:53,680 --> 02:05:55,600
Speaker 1: Bills Live from One Bills Drive. A couple of minutes

2579
02:05:55,640 --> 02:05:57,960
Speaker 1: left in this half hour. Things they've shot by here today.

2580
02:05:57,960 --> 02:05:59,920
Speaker 1: I'm looking over what are we left on the table

2581
02:06:00,040 --> 02:06:01,480
Speaker 1: let me? Can I just go through it? You see?

2582
02:06:01,520 --> 02:06:03,200
Speaker 1: If you need to discuss any of these times I'm

2583
02:06:03,240 --> 02:06:05,840
Speaker 1: looking at, I'll run down Josh Allen. We talked about

2584
02:06:05,880 --> 02:06:10,120
Speaker 1: Matt Barkley, Tybree Jackson, Bill's rookies. We talked about defensive line,

2585
02:06:10,200 --> 02:06:13,760
Speaker 1: We talked about Singletary Way, as An McKenzie, Daryl Johnson,

2586
02:06:14,160 --> 02:06:17,720
Speaker 1: Jaquan Johnson. I don't know, there's nothing left to talk now,

2587
02:06:17,720 --> 02:06:20,320
Speaker 1: there's stuff to talk about, and you can get listeners,

2588
02:06:20,400 --> 02:06:22,040
Speaker 1: you can get in on this. Give us a call.

2589
02:06:22,160 --> 02:06:25,480
Speaker 1: What's your biggest takeaway from the preseason win eighth three

2590
02:06:25,680 --> 02:06:30,120
Speaker 1: fifty toll free one eight eight eighty fifty. Any observations

2591
02:06:30,120 --> 02:06:34,200
Speaker 1: about Sean McDermott's sideline management, ice and the Kicker? What

2592
02:06:34,320 --> 02:06:38,360
Speaker 1: about the review replay review replayers? He told us you

2593
02:06:38,400 --> 02:06:41,680
Speaker 1: were there Wednesday right right, that he was gonna kind

2594
02:06:41,680 --> 02:06:43,600
Speaker 1: of experiment a little bit. I thought he did. He's

2595
02:06:44,200 --> 02:06:47,400
Speaker 1: I cracked up my new partner, Eric Wood about Shawn's

2596
02:06:48,160 --> 02:06:51,000
Speaker 1: really bad record on replay reviews. He's one of ten

2597
02:06:51,120 --> 02:06:54,000
Speaker 1: as a head coach on replay challenges, and that one

2598
02:06:54,120 --> 02:06:56,600
Speaker 1: on account last night. But I thought he was determined

2599
02:06:56,640 --> 02:06:59,280
Speaker 1: to see how see how the mechanics of it would work.

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02:06:59,360 --> 02:07:03,240
Speaker 1: Probably not a good challenge to issue, and I think,

2601
02:07:04,080 --> 02:07:05,560
Speaker 1: you know, it's one game I don't want to make

2602
02:07:05,600 --> 02:07:08,800
Speaker 1: sweeping observations, but it appears from what I saw last

2603
02:07:08,880 --> 02:07:11,200
Speaker 1: night to replay challenges one from the Bills, one from

2604
02:07:11,200 --> 02:07:16,000
Speaker 1: the Colts, and some other situations, it seems like the league, Look,

2605
02:07:16,040 --> 02:07:18,160
Speaker 1: if you're going to challenge a no call like Frank

2606
02:07:18,200 --> 02:07:21,040
Speaker 1: Wright did right, no call challenge for like, it better

2607
02:07:21,120 --> 02:07:23,440
Speaker 1: be a really bad interference or you're not gonna get it.

2608
02:07:23,600 --> 02:07:25,640
Speaker 1: And I think I've seen that trend developing again. It's

2609
02:07:25,680 --> 02:07:28,360
Speaker 1: just one week, and I guess that's good. But I

2610
02:07:28,440 --> 02:07:30,880
Speaker 1: don't like the rule. I don't like. I don't like,

2611
02:07:31,160 --> 02:07:33,280
Speaker 1: and it's not even the delay that bothers me. It's

2612
02:07:33,320 --> 02:07:35,720
Speaker 1: just too much. It's too much replay. Yeah, I get it,

2613
02:07:35,880 --> 02:07:39,160
Speaker 1: there's nothing. Here's the thing. You and I talked about

2614
02:07:39,200 --> 02:07:41,720
Speaker 1: this when they were talking about changing this rule, that

2615
02:07:41,880 --> 02:07:45,440
Speaker 1: play that happened that started this whole cascade and discussion

2616
02:07:45,480 --> 02:07:49,000
Speaker 1: and Robie Coleman play in the NFC Championship. It's a

2617
02:07:49,120 --> 02:07:51,760
Speaker 1: kneat jerk reaction to something that has happened once in

2618
02:07:51,880 --> 02:07:56,320
Speaker 1: my lifetime, an egregious non call. And now they've got

2619
02:07:56,360 --> 02:08:02,760
Speaker 1: all this whole thought process and protocol for getting something

2620
02:08:02,880 --> 02:08:04,760
Speaker 1: like that right, they're never gonna use it, so they're

2621
02:08:04,800 --> 02:08:07,960
Speaker 1: not gonna The thought seems to be when they go

2622
02:08:08,040 --> 02:08:11,000
Speaker 1: back and say it was a non call, the guy

2623
02:08:11,320 --> 02:08:14,240
Speaker 1: better pulled a knife on the guy before they're gonna

2624
02:08:14,280 --> 02:08:17,480
Speaker 1: call it right now. There was one last the other

2625
02:08:17,600 --> 02:08:20,160
Speaker 1: day yesterday in the first weekend of the preseason, the

2626
02:08:20,320 --> 02:08:25,720
Speaker 1: Jets Giants game. The Jets receiver there was an incomplete pass.

2627
02:08:25,800 --> 02:08:28,839
Speaker 1: It fell right in front of him. The Giant defender

2628
02:08:30,160 --> 02:08:33,920
Speaker 1: defended the pass. The Jets challenged a non call and

2629
02:08:34,040 --> 02:08:37,200
Speaker 1: they got the penalty. It happened, and when I went

2630
02:08:37,280 --> 02:08:41,120
Speaker 1: back and looked at it, I agreed with it. It's

2631
02:08:42,120 --> 02:08:44,880
Speaker 1: the guy was holding his arm, his left arm down.

2632
02:08:45,000 --> 02:08:46,880
Speaker 1: The defender was holding the left arm of the receiver

2633
02:08:47,000 --> 02:08:50,480
Speaker 1: down going the right hand sideline, and the kid couldn't

2634
02:08:50,520 --> 02:08:52,640
Speaker 1: reach for the ball, and the ball literally dropped like

2635
02:08:52,840 --> 02:08:54,560
Speaker 1: four inches, you know, it just came right down in

2636
02:08:54,640 --> 02:08:56,760
Speaker 1: him and the guy the defender reached up and hit

2637
02:08:56,800 --> 02:08:59,400
Speaker 1: it with his other hand and knocked it away. Very

2638
02:08:59,480 --> 02:09:02,800
Speaker 1: innocuous play. They go back and they said, you know,

2639
02:09:02,880 --> 02:09:05,560
Speaker 1: he was holding his arm. We challenged it and they

2640
02:09:05,600 --> 02:09:11,680
Speaker 1: got the penalty. Yeah, okay, yeah, we don't need it. Yeah,

2641
02:09:12,000 --> 02:09:13,920
Speaker 1: we don't need those reviews. I get it. It was

2642
02:09:13,960 --> 02:09:16,920
Speaker 1: an injustice of the Jets. Oh, you know what, fight

2643
02:09:17,000 --> 02:09:18,600
Speaker 1: for the ball. You don't need it. It was a

2644
02:09:18,640 --> 02:09:22,000
Speaker 1: horrible injustice last year to the New Orleans Saints. And

2645
02:09:22,280 --> 02:09:24,800
Speaker 1: but they've overreacted, the coaches had The coaches are the

2646
02:09:24,800 --> 02:09:27,240
Speaker 1: one who forced this through at the owner's meetings. But

2647
02:09:27,280 --> 02:09:29,280
Speaker 1: you just don't need it. You don't need to add

2648
02:09:29,520 --> 02:09:32,880
Speaker 1: additional layers of replay. You're right, the protocol is complicated.

2649
02:09:33,360 --> 02:09:37,160
Speaker 1: The coaches, both Reich and McDermott last night experimenting, Sana,

2650
02:09:37,200 --> 02:09:38,760
Speaker 1: how's this gonna work? What are we gonna get? What

2651
02:09:38,840 --> 02:09:40,040
Speaker 1: are we not gonna get? How do we do this?

2652
02:09:40,160 --> 02:09:42,640
Speaker 1: It's it's just unnecessary. The simple fact of the matter

2653
02:09:42,720 --> 02:09:46,760
Speaker 1: is this like the old catch rule, you know, there's

2654
02:09:47,920 --> 02:09:50,720
Speaker 1: there's a subjective nature to what they're looking at. Was

2655
02:09:50,800 --> 02:09:54,760
Speaker 1: it substantial substantial hindrance to his ability to make a

2656
02:09:54,800 --> 02:09:58,480
Speaker 1: play on the ball. Not that substantial? Is the replay

2657
02:09:58,720 --> 02:10:01,080
Speaker 1: clear and obvious that the other standard? Right? Yeah? Is it?

2658
02:10:02,760 --> 02:10:04,680
Speaker 1: N you know, I mean you're still got this guy

2659
02:10:04,760 --> 02:10:07,240
Speaker 1: forming an opinion. It's not like if he does this,

2660
02:10:07,960 --> 02:10:10,080
Speaker 1: it's a penalty. If he does that, it's not. There's

2661
02:10:10,120 --> 02:10:13,480
Speaker 1: none of that there. So, yeah, I'm I'm down on it, down,

2662
02:10:13,560 --> 02:10:15,520
Speaker 1: down on it. Break. Here we're back with more one

2663
02:10:15,560 --> 02:10:17,760
Speaker 1: builds live from One built Drive and this is Buffalo

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02:10:17,880 --> 02:10:35,000
Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Okay, so what do we learn? Presented by

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Speaker 1: home theater provider with the Buffalo Bills Good Show. Today,

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02:10:42,880 --> 02:10:45,520
Speaker 1: the day after the preseason opener, we had Dean marlow

2669
02:10:45,560 --> 02:10:48,080
Speaker 1: on and had an interception last night, Bill's back up safety,

2670
02:10:48,280 --> 02:10:51,080
Speaker 1: and he talked about his interception in Buffalo's victory last night.

2671
02:10:56,760 --> 02:10:59,360
Speaker 1: Dean Marlowe says he read the quarterback and uh, it's

2672
02:10:59,400 --> 02:11:02,040
Speaker 1: all vision there I broke and made a play. Also,

2673
02:11:02,240 --> 02:11:07,480
Speaker 1: Greg Cosal joined us today from NFL matchup. Greg Cosal

2674
02:11:07,840 --> 02:11:10,960
Speaker 1: talked about Devin Singletary's performance, Buffalo's third round draft pick

2675
02:11:10,960 --> 02:11:16,560
Speaker 1: in last night's game, and Greg co Sal said he

2676
02:11:16,600 --> 02:11:20,360
Speaker 1: showed patients, showed decisive short area burst. He's got a locidness.

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02:11:21,000 --> 02:11:22,760
Speaker 1: I would do my great co Sell limitation with then

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02:11:22,840 --> 02:11:25,880
Speaker 1: I'd have to say, what does you know, Steve? Steve?

2679
02:11:25,960 --> 02:11:29,440
Speaker 1: Did you know Steve? Forget all that? I guess it

2680
02:11:29,520 --> 02:11:31,560
Speaker 1: just popped up off at Twitter, and we were laughing

2681
02:11:31,640 --> 02:11:34,880
Speaker 1: at it. Not because Antonio Brown is no favorite of

2682
02:11:34,920 --> 02:11:39,640
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills fans anywhere, but Chase Williams from WPXI in

2683
02:11:39,760 --> 02:11:43,080
Speaker 1: California said, ten practices into training camp, Antonio Brown has

2684
02:11:43,120 --> 02:11:45,640
Speaker 1: already gone radio silent with the Raiders. They don't have

2685
02:11:45,840 --> 02:11:48,800
Speaker 1: They have zero clue where he is or what the

2686
02:11:48,920 --> 02:11:55,480
Speaker 1: progress of his foot injury is. He's missing. I do

2687
02:11:55,640 --> 02:11:58,560
Speaker 1: not know that. Um, and you know, And this was

2688
02:11:58,760 --> 02:12:01,960
Speaker 1: retweeted by Andrew, our good friend and regular guest on

2689
02:12:02,000 --> 02:12:04,040
Speaker 1: the show, and he says yes, and the Pittsburgh Steelers

2690
02:12:04,080 --> 02:12:09,040
Speaker 1: are nodding knowingly. Actually, that's maybe something folks right here, right, hey,

2691
02:12:09,120 --> 02:12:10,880
Speaker 1: let's talk about next week for a second. Here's the

2692
02:12:11,000 --> 02:12:13,400
Speaker 1: schedule for Steve and I the show here Monday noon

2693
02:12:13,440 --> 02:12:15,120
Speaker 1: to three. We'll have a good show. Don't know what

2694
02:12:15,200 --> 02:12:17,280
Speaker 1: it is yet. Monday night, Steve and I and our

2695
02:12:17,320 --> 02:12:20,920
Speaker 1: producer Jay Harris and another couple of people leave for Spartanburg,

2696
02:12:21,000 --> 02:12:24,879
Speaker 1: South Carolina. Will do shows in Spartanburg on Tuesday and Wednesday.

2697
02:12:24,920 --> 02:12:28,120
Speaker 1: The Bills will practice with the Carolina Panthers on Tuesday

2698
02:12:28,200 --> 02:12:30,640
Speaker 1: and Wednesday. Wednesday night, we make the move up to

2699
02:12:30,720 --> 02:12:33,640
Speaker 1: the big city, Charlotte and do our shows there Thursday

2700
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Speaker 1: afternoon noon to three and Friday afternoon noon to three,

2701
02:12:36,680 --> 02:12:38,760
Speaker 1: and then a week from today, what would that be

2702
02:12:38,840 --> 02:12:42,680
Speaker 1: the fifteenth right, yeah, August fifteenth bills in the Carolina Panthers.

2703
02:12:42,920 --> 02:12:45,920
Speaker 1: We're gonna sweat, but we're gonna have fun. We're determined

2704
02:12:45,920 --> 02:12:48,240
Speaker 1: to have fun. Right, We're gonna be we'll stay hydrated,

2705
02:12:48,240 --> 02:12:50,000
Speaker 1: we'll be all right. Just try not to get a

2706
02:12:50,080 --> 02:12:52,680
Speaker 1: hamstring cramp or something like that when we're walking back

2707
02:12:52,720 --> 02:12:56,720
Speaker 1: and forth between air conditioned hotel rooms. We're not going outside,

2708
02:12:56,760 --> 02:12:59,280
Speaker 1: are we We might have to gotta watch a little

2709
02:12:59,280 --> 02:13:01,280
Speaker 1: bit of practice. You're gonna have to be here. Let's

2710
02:13:01,280 --> 02:13:05,480
Speaker 1: just not and say that we did Monday. The rest

2711
02:13:05,520 --> 02:13:07,440
Speaker 1: of the week we're in South and then North Carolina.

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02:13:07,480 --> 02:13:09,640
Speaker 1: I hope you joined us next week. Have a great weekend, everybody.

2713
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Speaker 1: We will see you again next Monday at twelve noon.

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Speaker 1: Our production assistants George Blast, Jeff Coltnick Thomas, honald Or,

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Speaker 1: Kelly Rude, j j Rito, Kevin Cargis, James Robell, our

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