WEBVTT - Growing Up Brontë

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff you missed in History Class from house

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<v Speaker 1>stuff works dot com. Helloly, welcome to the podcast. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah Dowdy and I'm deleted Chuck Reboarding and longtime listeners

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<v Speaker 1>know that sad royal childhoods are a frequent theme of ours,

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<v Speaker 1>But the truth is discussing the youth of a podcast

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<v Speaker 1>subject is usually pretty interesting, whether their royalty or not.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether it's eleot Chellaby showing off to the Sultan, or

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<v Speaker 1>as we discussed recently, paleontologist Mary Anning getting struck by

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<v Speaker 1>lightning as an infant, or even haunts Christian Anderson crashing

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<v Speaker 1>dinner parties in his ill fitting communion suit. I really

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<v Speaker 1>think that taking a closer look at the early years

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<v Speaker 1>often shows a different side of a subject, or sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>even most intriguingly, a sign of what's to come. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>some spark of genius in the early years. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>rare that we devote an entire episode to those early

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<v Speaker 1>pre fame years, as we're going to do today with

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<v Speaker 1>the talented Bronte family. And while we we will follow

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<v Speaker 1>up with an episode on their remarkable breakthroughs and their successes,

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<v Speaker 1>which we all probably know a little bit more about.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a few good reasons for establishing a solid

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<v Speaker 1>footing before we go there. I mean, the first one

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<v Speaker 1>would be that most of the family didn't live much

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<v Speaker 1>beyond childhood, kind of the sad reason why the youngest

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<v Speaker 1>Bronte child to die was only at ten and the

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<v Speaker 1>oldest was thirty eight, so not very long lives at all. Secondly,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bronte children grew up under very strange circumstances. They

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<v Speaker 1>grew up in extreme isolation coupled with endless intellectual stimulation. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a New Yorker article by Mary Hawthorne on their

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<v Speaker 1>fantastic drawings and watercolors. Something you might not be aware

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<v Speaker 1>of that the Brontes were actually, in some cases really

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<v Speaker 1>talented artists too. But this article suggested that the peculiarities

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<v Speaker 1>of their upbringing produced quote an extraordinary collective creative mania,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think is a great way to think about

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<v Speaker 1>what they were doing as kids. And there's one third

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<v Speaker 1>reason that we want to go into their childhood a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit first, and that's the Bronte mystique. It almost

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<v Speaker 1>hinges on those earlier years. So how did one remote

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<v Speaker 1>family produce three world class writers and one brilliant wastrel brother.

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<v Speaker 1>How did the isolated and experienced Bronte girls author books

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<v Speaker 1>filled with so much passion and terror? And what was

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<v Speaker 1>in the water at how worth besides death and disease?

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<v Speaker 1>And what made them also brilliant? So the Brontes are

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<v Speaker 1>such a staple of British literature classes that it probably

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<v Speaker 1>surprises some people to learn their origins were in Northern

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<v Speaker 1>Ireland and that their family name wasn't even Bronte. Their father,

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<v Speaker 1>Who's Patrick, was born in seventy seven on St Patrick's

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<v Speaker 1>Day in Northern Ireland, and he was the son of

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<v Speaker 1>Hugh Brunte, who was a ditch mender. And despite the

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<v Speaker 1>poor beginnings, Patrick was the eldest of ten really you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in a really poor family. Uh, they were very story oriented.

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<v Speaker 1>Hugh Brunte was known in his area as being an

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<v Speaker 1>incredible storyteller. Young Patrick grew up reading as much as

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<v Speaker 1>he possibly could. He even memorized Paradise Lost as a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>and that intellectual spark caught the attention of a local

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<v Speaker 1>Presbyterian minister and from there Patrick made one good connection

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<v Speaker 1>after another with wealthy members of the Methodist movement and

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately earned himself a spot at Cambridge, and I read

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<v Speaker 1>a really great biography on Charlotte Bronte by Rebecca Frasier,

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<v Speaker 1>and she said that this jump from being the ditch

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<v Speaker 1>mender's son to attending Cambridge was really an almost unimaginable lee. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>it did remind me a little bit of Hans Christian

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<v Speaker 1>Anderson actually, who had just talked about. In eighteen o six, Patrick,

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<v Speaker 1>who had changed his name to Bronte at school, decided

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<v Speaker 1>to take orders as a clergyman. In eighteen twelve he

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<v Speaker 1>met Mariah Branwell, who was from a well off Cornish

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<v Speaker 1>merchant family with rumors of pirate ancestry. She lived in

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<v Speaker 1>Penzance after all, and Mariah was in a pretty great

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<v Speaker 1>place for an unmarried thirty year old in the nineteenth century.

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<v Speaker 1>She had some money, she had some independence, and she

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<v Speaker 1>was much loved and valued by her family. But only

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<v Speaker 1>months after meeting Patrick, Mariah packed it in, married him

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<v Speaker 1>and moved north and started having just baby after baby.

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<v Speaker 1>They had six kids and six years Mariah, Elizabeth, Charlotte,

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick Branwell, Emily and Anne. So most of the younger

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<v Speaker 1>Bronte children were born in Thornton, West Yorkshire, where the

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<v Speaker 1>Brontes could socialize. It was near enough to a town

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<v Speaker 1>that they could go visit with friends, They had a

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<v Speaker 1>they had a busy life there, and that was especially

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<v Speaker 1>important considering Mr and Mrs Bronte were already pretty isolated

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<v Speaker 1>from their extended families in Ireland and Cornwall. But of

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<v Speaker 1>course Bronte Buffs know that the kids didn't grow up

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<v Speaker 1>in this busy, sociable town of Thornton Heathcliff, Rome's Moors,

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<v Speaker 1>after all, not some cute little village. So not long

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<v Speaker 1>after Anne's birth in eighteen twenty, Mr Bronte accepted a

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<v Speaker 1>position as the curate of Hawarth and it wasn't really

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<v Speaker 1>too far off from Thornton, but the hills and the

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<v Speaker 1>moor surrounding it made the place inaccessible, plus cold and

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<v Speaker 1>windy and boggy. And today we know that Howard was

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<v Speaker 1>also very, very unhealthy. And I can actually remember this

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<v Speaker 1>from my eleventh grade literature class, my teacher drawing a

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<v Speaker 1>picture of the Bronte house and um the water supply

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<v Speaker 1>and where it came from, and it just very involved, definitely,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's something that unhealthy nous of the town was

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<v Speaker 1>something that Mr Bronte noticed right away and tried to

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<v Speaker 1>fix in his role as parson. I mean, just to

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<v Speaker 1>give you a few examples of how unhealthy this place

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<v Speaker 1>really was, because you might be thinking, you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>small village, how bad could it be? But the Babbage

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<v Speaker 1>Report on Sanitation from about thirty years after the Bronte's

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<v Speaker 1>arrival compared Howard's death rate to that of Whitechapel, London,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, one of the um worst most packed with

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<v Speaker 1>people's slums in London. The average life expectancy with only

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five years. The problems that this place had where

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<v Speaker 1>that there weren't enough previews, no sewers, water was rarely clean,

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<v Speaker 1>and there were too many dead filling up the poorly

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<v Speaker 1>drained churchyard. And guess where the family lived, right by

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<v Speaker 1>the churchyard with a view of the cemetery on two sides.

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<v Speaker 1>Since the local families were mostly quite poor, they were

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<v Speaker 1>laborers and factory workers. There were only a few other, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, respectable people that the Brontes could socialize with,

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<v Speaker 1>so they stuck to themselves. Mainly. There was a class

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<v Speaker 1>thing here. The Brontes were were also, but they were

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<v Speaker 1>middle class because of Mr Bronte's position. The girls grew

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<v Speaker 1>up learning to do things like put up linen, but

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<v Speaker 1>they had servants to do the cleaning and the cooking. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I read one description of them learning lighthouse keeping, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>that means, because it means I just imagine people walking

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<v Speaker 1>around with a feather nut I don't know, like making

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<v Speaker 1>lace or something. But still, you know, you're probably wondering

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, why would you take this position if

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<v Speaker 1>this town was so unhealthy? But the job meant a

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<v Speaker 1>major raise for Mr Bronte, plus a house for his

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<v Speaker 1>family of eight and a job for life, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty serious thing. But the tragedies started not too

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<v Speaker 1>long after they moved. Only nine months later. Mrs Bronte,

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<v Speaker 1>who hadn't really ever recovered after Anne's birth, started to

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<v Speaker 1>get very sick, and Mr Bronte nursed her himself for

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<v Speaker 1>seven months while she slowly died of what at the

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<v Speaker 1>time people thought was stomach cancer but now what historians

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<v Speaker 1>believe was blood poisoning. Mariah, the oldest daughter, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>still just a little kid, took care of her younger

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<v Speaker 1>sisters and her brother until all six of them also

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<v Speaker 1>got sick. They came down with scarlet fever, and at

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<v Speaker 1>that point Mr Bronte was just at his breaking point

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<v Speaker 1>and wrote to his sister in law, Elizabeth Brandwell, to

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<v Speaker 1>come up to Yorkshire and please help the family. So

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<v Speaker 1>she attended her sister's death and stayed to care for

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<v Speaker 1>the kids, but she really wanted to go home to

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<v Speaker 1>warmer Cornwall. Mr Bronte meanwhile tried to find a new

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<v Speaker 1>wife to help educate his kids and also to study

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<v Speaker 1>his temper and allow his sister in law to go home.

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<v Speaker 1>But he found no takers. I mean, he just wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>in that attractive a position at the time. He had

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<v Speaker 1>six kids and a really low salary, so it just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't help his cause. Yeah, new takers. So with six kids, though,

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<v Speaker 1>and five of them girls, how was he supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>educate them on a poor Parsons income? And the kids were,

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<v Speaker 1>of course precocious, a little Bronte's. They'd read newspapers and

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<v Speaker 1>talk politics. They'd argue about who they thought was Beth

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<v Speaker 1>the Duke of Wellington, or Napoleon or Hannibal or Caesar.

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<v Speaker 1>But they didn't have a formal education, which was especially

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<v Speaker 1>important for girls who might need to actually go work

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<v Speaker 1>later in life, you know, become teachers, become governesses. So

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like kind of a hopeless situation. But then

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<v Speaker 1>a miracle seemed to happen. In eighteen twenty four, a

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<v Speaker 1>new school for the daughters of the poor evangelical clergy

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<v Speaker 1>opened at cowan Bridge, only about fifty miles from Haworth.

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<v Speaker 1>For only fourteen pounds a year, a girl could study history, geography, globes, grammar, writing, arithmetic,

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<v Speaker 1>needlework and fine housekeeping. And you could even choose a

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<v Speaker 1>vocation of sorts. You could choose to learn to be

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<v Speaker 1>a wife, a governess, or your own housekeeper. And for

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<v Speaker 1>added cachet, the school's director was a wealthy clergyman named

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<v Speaker 1>Carus Wilson, which was a really big name to someone

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<v Speaker 1>like Mr Bronte. Okay, though, if you've read Jane Eyre

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<v Speaker 1>you know where this story is going. The school was cold,

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<v Speaker 1>it was damp, the building was overcrowded, too many girls

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<v Speaker 1>in two cramped rooms, with too few provies and poor food.

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<v Speaker 1>And another problem was that Wilson thought deprivation was a

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<v Speaker 1>really good thing. He believed little children were particularly sinful,

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<v Speaker 1>so he probably wasn't the best person to be running

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<v Speaker 1>a school full of little children in an unhealthy spot.

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<v Speaker 1>But by November, the four eldest Bronte girls were at

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<v Speaker 1>Cowan Bridge, and Mariah went home first in February. She

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<v Speaker 1>was dead by May of tuberculosis. Elizabeth went home May

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one, prompting Mr. Bronte to leave the very next

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<v Speaker 1>day and rescue Charlotte and Emily. So I mean that

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<v Speaker 1>gives you a pretty good picture of what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>state Elizabeth must have been in for him to go

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<v Speaker 1>rushing back. She died just two weeks later, and according

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<v Speaker 1>to an article on Elizabeth Brown day Um by Jane

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<v Speaker 1>tripp It, she's actually called the Unknown Bronte because so

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<v Speaker 1>little is really known about her. Mariah also died young,

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<v Speaker 1>but she was sort of the inspiration for Helen Burns

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, really idolized by her family. But Elizabeth

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<v Speaker 1>more of a blank slate. So anyway, this article by

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<v Speaker 1>Jeane Trippett and the Journal Bronte Studies, Elizabeth supposedly also

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<v Speaker 1>met with some unknown quote alarming accident while she was

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<v Speaker 1>at school, her head being quote severely cut according to

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<v Speaker 1>the school's headmistress. So it seems like there were, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>potentially more serious things going on, not that the accident

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<v Speaker 1>was necessarily something um, somebody had caused her harm, but

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<v Speaker 1>just that it wasn't covered in any more detail than that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds sketchy, you know. It makes you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe Calvin Bridge was Lowwood from Jane Eyre Chrus Wilson

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<v Speaker 1>could have been the evil Mr Brocklehurst. And I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk more about Charlotte's legacy in the next episode,

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<v Speaker 1>but since she was the only sister to come really

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<v Speaker 1>famous during her lifetime, a lot of people took an

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<v Speaker 1>interest in that connection. Charlotte herself said that Lowood was true.

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<v Speaker 1>The Wilson camp claimed that Charlotte couldn't be relied on

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<v Speaker 1>for having been a child at the time, she wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have remembered things that they really were exactly. According to Fraser,

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<v Speaker 1>their biggest piece of evidence came from a letter signed

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<v Speaker 1>a h which was believed to be the former headmistress

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<v Speaker 1>and inspiration for the kind Miss Temple in Charlotte's book,

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<v Speaker 1>she claimed everything had been Rosie in the nine though

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<v Speaker 1>someone finally bothered too to the math and realized that

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<v Speaker 1>the real Miss Temple had actually been dead when she

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<v Speaker 1>wrote the vindicating letter, and the letter's author was probably

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<v Speaker 1>actually the inspiration for the evil Mrs Scatchard, which doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>sound so good for cowen Bridge all a sudden, but

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<v Speaker 1>with the death of Mariah and Elizabeth in such a

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<v Speaker 1>short span of time, and of course also so soon

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<v Speaker 1>after the death of their mother, uh, the kids were

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<v Speaker 1>really devastated. And remember their house looks out on a

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<v Speaker 1>cemetery too, so there was really no escaping this feeling

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<v Speaker 1>of death. A later guest, remember that Howard's high mortality

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<v Speaker 1>rate was really obvious to anybody who was stopping through,

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<v Speaker 1>because the church bell would constantly toll for the dead,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the tombstone chiseler would always be at work,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, chipping away at the granite blocks, which sounds

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<v Speaker 1>really horrifying in this context of a family who's just

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<v Speaker 1>lost so many people in such a short stand of time.

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<v Speaker 1>So Miss Branwell became the household educator for the girls,

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<v Speaker 1>while Mr Bronte would have given extra Greek and Latin

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<v Speaker 1>lessons to Branwell. They also had an inexhaustible supply of

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<v Speaker 1>reading materials day old newspapers, magazines, borrowed books, methodist tracks,

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<v Speaker 1>and literature. Of course, Charlotte and Branwell read almost all

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<v Speaker 1>of Byron at age thirteen and twelve. The only thing

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<v Speaker 1>that Patrick Bronte seemed to censor was Miss Branwell's Ladies magazine.

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<v Speaker 1>He thought it had silly little stories in it. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want his kids to read them. Um. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably no surprise that with the kids reading so much

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<v Speaker 1>romantic literature and then geography too and current events, that

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<v Speaker 1>they made up their own world eventually, you know, as

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<v Speaker 1>a way to kind of get away from all that

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<v Speaker 1>was going on in their real life, and filled it

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<v Speaker 1>with byronic heroes and their most famous creation, the Empire

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<v Speaker 1>of Angria, with its capital of glass Town, started when

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<v Speaker 1>Mr Bronte brought home a set of wooden soldiers for Brandwell,

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<v Speaker 1>and Charlotte later described it in a way that sounds

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<v Speaker 1>so genuine. You know, you can imagine kids just picking

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<v Speaker 1>up toys and starting this imaginary world. But she wrote,

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<v Speaker 1>Branwell came to our door with a box of soldiers.

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<v Speaker 1>Emily and I jumped out of bed, and I snatched

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<v Speaker 1>one up and exclaimed, this is the Duke of Wellington.

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<v Speaker 1>This shall be the Duke. Emily's became gravy and Anne's

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<v Speaker 1>waiting boy, and brand Well's Bonaparte. So with all their

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<v Speaker 1>soldiers named, I think the names went through a few variations.

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<v Speaker 1>In some cases the soldiers became what they called the

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<v Speaker 1>young men, and um they lived in Glasstown. The kids

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<v Speaker 1>became these all powerful genies. And then the Glasstown saga

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<v Speaker 1>morphed into something that wasn't just like playing with the

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<v Speaker 1>soldiers on rainy days and making up stories. It really

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<v Speaker 1>became a world for them. Yeah, Brandwell even created a

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<v Speaker 1>language and history and maps for this world. By January nine,

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<v Speaker 1>they started to produce miniature Glasstown magazines with science articles,

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<v Speaker 1>poems and jokes. Actually all the Glasstown writings were done

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<v Speaker 1>on a miniature scale. So the first magazine was two

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<v Speaker 1>and a quarter inch by one in a quarter inch,

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<v Speaker 1>done on scraps of sugar paper or wallpaper in Angria

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<v Speaker 1>and the Angrians, brand Well crammed two thousand, five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>words onto a five by seven inch page and they

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<v Speaker 1>called it Scribblemania, which I think is my new band name.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, they had a reason though, behind all

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<v Speaker 1>of the tiny writing, which they also did to sort

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<v Speaker 1>of imitate print almost. It was a way to keep

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<v Speaker 1>the adults out of their business, you know, because it

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<v Speaker 1>was so impossible to read, probably especially if you were

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<v Speaker 1>a nineteenth century person with bad eyesight. So Emily and

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<v Speaker 1>Anne participated in the world of Angria, but they also

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<v Speaker 1>created their own world called Gondol. And we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>quite as much about Gondol as we do about Glasstown,

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<v Speaker 1>because Charlotte destroyed much of her sister's early writings after

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<v Speaker 1>their deaths. But there is one pretty intriguing fact, especially

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<v Speaker 1>if you've read any of those younger Bront's works. Gondol

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<v Speaker 1>was ruled by women, which certainly set it apart from

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<v Speaker 1>from the world of Angria, which had these really strong

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<v Speaker 1>male protagonists. But all the kids continued writing poems and

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<v Speaker 1>plays and romances about their worlds and these characters well

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<v Speaker 1>into adulthood, and Charlotte would at various times try to

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<v Speaker 1>ditch her imaginary world as she'd get older, but she'd

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<v Speaker 1>come back, you know sometimes. Deplena and I were discussing

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<v Speaker 1>before the podcast, actually that while so charming in their youth,

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<v Speaker 1>it does start to take on a disturbing tone when

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<v Speaker 1>they are still so obsessed with it as they get older.

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<v Speaker 1>But her indirect interest in it ultimately ended up coming

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<v Speaker 1>out partly in some of her more famous work. Charlotte's

0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:21.320
<v Speaker 1>alter ego, The Morna, is very much like her later

0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:24.200
<v Speaker 1>anti hero Mr Rochester, So I mean, there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course they couldn't play at home forever. In

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen thirty and Mr Bronte got sick and nearly died.

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<v Speaker 1>When he recovered, he realized his kids had no safety net,

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<v Speaker 1>so he decided to keep branwell at home, but he

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<v Speaker 1>sent Charlotte to school again to learn to be a governess,

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<v Speaker 1>this time at Mrs Wooler School at roe Head, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>miles from Hollarth. It was different from colin Bridge and

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<v Speaker 1>it was in a charity school. Other students there were

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<v Speaker 1>rich manufacturing daughters, and Charlotte stood out with her Irish

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<v Speaker 1>accent and her funny clothes. To make things worse, she

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<v Speaker 1>was placed at the bottom of the class since her

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<v Speaker 1>entire education had been so haphazard, and she couldn't play

0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:06.520
<v Speaker 1>because she was so nearsighted, so she was really loved

0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:11.440
<v Speaker 1>instead of you know, joining in with ball games. Eventually, though,

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<v Speaker 1>according to the BBC documentary In Search of the Brontes,

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<v Speaker 1>she made friends through storytelling, which was really her strength.

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<v Speaker 1>As we know, she would rehash the ghost tales that

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<v Speaker 1>she learned from the Brontes much loved cook Cabby, and

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<v Speaker 1>two of her roe Head friends, Ellen Nussy and Mary Taylor,

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<v Speaker 1>became lifelong correspondence of her. So she did manage to

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<v Speaker 1>make those bonds. Yeah, and as the side note to

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<v Speaker 1>the correspondence with Ellen really is the source of a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of biographical information about not just Charlotte, but the

0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:45.440
<v Speaker 1>Bronte family as a whole. Mary Taylor burned her correspondence,

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<v Speaker 1>so we don't know what all were missing there. So

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<v Speaker 1>Charlotte also worked her way to the top of the

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<v Speaker 1>class and after two years she came home. This is

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<v Speaker 1>maybe one of the happier times in the Brontes lives.

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<v Speaker 1>All the kids were back at the parsonage. Charlotte's friend Ellen,

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<v Speaker 1>who visited in eighteen thirty three, wrote that quote, they

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<v Speaker 1>were beginning to feel conscious of their powers. They were

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<v Speaker 1>rich in each other's companionship. Their health was good, their

0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:14.280
<v Speaker 1>spirits were good. There was often joyousness and mirth. The

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<v Speaker 1>perfection of unrestrained talk and intelligence brightened the close of

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<v Speaker 1>the days which were passing all too swiftly. So we

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<v Speaker 1>can kind of get a picture two of the Bronte's.

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<v Speaker 1>During this period, they would take long walks over the moors,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the evening, the four girls, or if Ellen

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<v Speaker 1>was visiting, would stroll around the sitting room arm in arm.

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<v Speaker 1>There were a lot of pets in the house. Later

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<v Speaker 1>on they had geese named Victoria and Adelaide, which I

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<v Speaker 1>just love. Um brand Will also still seemed like the

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<v Speaker 1>great hope of the family, and that's something that's always

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<v Speaker 1>interesting when you learn about the Brontes, these three very

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<v Speaker 1>famous sisters. Yet the family expected the Sun to be

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<v Speaker 1>the great one. But at this point, you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>seemed likely. He was charming, he was smart, he was

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<v Speaker 1>good at everything he did. He had a well respected

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<v Speaker 1>art teacher at this point, and while his most famous

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<v Speaker 1>work of his sisters is unfortunately pretty crude, not the

0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:10.159
<v Speaker 1>best representation that you'd want as your legacy, he was

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<v Speaker 1>considered an accomplished draftsman, so maybe he was a little

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<v Speaker 1>better at drawing than at oil painting. So Charlotte turned

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<v Speaker 1>down a few governessing jobs to stay at home, but

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<v Speaker 1>in eighteen thirty five she eventually got an offer that

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<v Speaker 1>she couldn't refuse. It was a teaching position at roe

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<v Speaker 1>Head with free education offered for one sister, but going

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<v Speaker 1>back to roe Head turned out to be a really

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<v Speaker 1>serious mistake. Emily could barely make it three months before

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<v Speaker 1>she had to go home. She couldn't stand being away

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<v Speaker 1>from home. The more's her imaginary life, so fifteen year

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<v Speaker 1>old and came up instead. Charlotte was also seriously depressed

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<v Speaker 1>and was going through kind of a religious crisis. In

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<v Speaker 1>August eighteen thirty six, she wrote, quote, the thought came

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<v Speaker 1>over me, am, I to spend all the best part

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<v Speaker 1>of my life in this wretched bondage forcibly suppressing my

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<v Speaker 1>ray age at the idleness, the apathy, and the hyperbolical

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<v Speaker 1>and most asinine stupidity of those fat headed oaths on

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<v Speaker 1>a compulsion assuming an air of kindness, patience and assiduity,

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<v Speaker 1>and to make matters worse, Brandwell partly the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>the girls were working in the first place was failing miserably. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they had of course taken jobs to help their father out,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, help him support brand Well. And in the

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<v Speaker 1>fall of eight thirty five, Brandwell had gone to London

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<v Speaker 1>to apply to the Royal Academy of the Arts. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>this was going to be this big start. He either

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<v Speaker 1>never made it to London and was robbed on the way,

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<v Speaker 1>or he got to London that didn't end up applying

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<v Speaker 1>to school, or he applied but was turned down. It's

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<v Speaker 1>unclear of what exactly happened, but Brandwell later tried to

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<v Speaker 1>still make his living as an artist, specifically as a

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<v Speaker 1>portrait painter, but he couldn't really compete with a better

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<v Speaker 1>artists and the nude geara types, and he became addicted

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<v Speaker 1>to opium eventually, which was on top of a developing

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<v Speaker 1>drinking problem, and it wasn't long before he had to

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<v Speaker 1>start making his living as a tutor, which you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like a good job for a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was not something that Brandwell was suited for

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<v Speaker 1>at all. When he was eventually fired from his first position,

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<v Speaker 1>his employers complained that their sons had basically done nothing

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<v Speaker 1>more than make sketches and think up stories to go

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<v Speaker 1>with their tutor strongs, which I don't know, it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fun for them, but their parents weren't too

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<v Speaker 1>happy they were spending money on that, and there was

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<v Speaker 1>a rumor too, right, there was also a rumor that

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<v Speaker 1>Brandwell might have had an illegitimate child who died with

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<v Speaker 1>a servant um, so, you know, just kind of sketchy.

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<v Speaker 1>Things starting to pick up around his name in that charm,

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<v Speaker 1>that intense energy he had was starting to seem more manic,

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<v Speaker 1>a little more disturbing. After two years at school, Anne

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<v Speaker 1>got sick and had to go home. Charlotte, who was

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<v Speaker 1>depressed to the point of illness, also followed in eight

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<v Speaker 1>and over the next few years the Bronte girls all

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<v Speaker 1>took teaching jobs, even painfully shy Emily, who distinguished herself

0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:08.840
<v Speaker 1>at law Hill by telling her students that she preferred

0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:12.440
<v Speaker 1>the school dog to them. That wouldn't win you many

0:23:12.600 --> 0:23:16.360
<v Speaker 1>most popular teacher points for it at all, and bad.

0:23:16.400 --> 0:23:20.240
<v Speaker 1>Experience with the Ingham family influenced her later novel, Agnes Gray,

0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:24.199
<v Speaker 1>while Charlotte's experience with the Sedgewick family provided inspiration for

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<v Speaker 1>Jane Eyre, and one of Charlotte's charges even threw a

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<v Speaker 1>Bible at her head and was very likely the model

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<v Speaker 1>for John Reid, Jane Eyre's cruel cousin. Yeah, so Charlotte

0:23:34.119 --> 0:23:37.159
<v Speaker 1>wasn't enjoying governor thing to say the least, but she

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<v Speaker 1>also wasn't willing to trade it in for a hasty marriage.

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<v Speaker 1>She turned on two proposals in just six months, the

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<v Speaker 1>first of which came from Ellen's brother, who was a

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<v Speaker 1>Calvinist preacher who really just needed a wife for his

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<v Speaker 1>big move to Sussex. You know, it was proper that

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<v Speaker 1>he was married. Reminds you a little bit of Sint

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<v Speaker 1>John Rivers. I think the second proposal came from a

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<v Speaker 1>clergyman who was just of Dublin University. They met in

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<v Speaker 1>a large group, Charlotte mistook his name as Price instead

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<v Speaker 1>of Bryce, and really the next thing you know, she

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<v Speaker 1>was getting a letter of proposal from him, and that

0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:15.280
<v Speaker 1>wasn't her style. So it seems like all the brilliant

0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:18.120
<v Speaker 1>Brontes were just stuck in a rut. You know that

0:24:18.160 --> 0:24:20.080
<v Speaker 1>they were going to have to the girls were gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to just tutor forever or beat governess is rather

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<v Speaker 1>um something that they did not care for. Brandwell was

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<v Speaker 1>now working as a railway booking clerk and not taking

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<v Speaker 1>that work very seriously. He was doodling in the ledgers,

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<v Speaker 1>and so out of all this kind of um, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, stall dead end sort of life, it seems

0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:45.320
<v Speaker 1>a new idea emerged. Ms Brandwell proposed offering up some

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<v Speaker 1>of her savings. She had been squirreling away money over

0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:52.440
<v Speaker 1>the year from her father's inheritance to her um, even

0:24:52.440 --> 0:24:54.800
<v Speaker 1>though she was paying Mr Bronte rent the whole time

0:24:54.800 --> 0:24:57.680
<v Speaker 1>she insisted on it um. She had managed to save

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<v Speaker 1>a bit, though, and so she offered a pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>um for the three girls to open their own school,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, which would be a lot different than being

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<v Speaker 1>a governess, where you're not really a servant, but you're

0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:11.399
<v Speaker 1>not really a member of the family either, so consequently

0:25:11.440 --> 0:25:14.000
<v Speaker 1>you're just completely isolated. If you had your own school,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd be able to do your own thing. So Charlotte

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<v Speaker 1>really liked this idea. Emily and Anne were into it too,

0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:23.760
<v Speaker 1>But Charlotte cooked up an additional perk. She thought that

0:25:23.840 --> 0:25:26.880
<v Speaker 1>for their school to succeed, the Bronte girls would really

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<v Speaker 1>need to distinguish themselves in some way, have something that

0:25:29.640 --> 0:25:33.040
<v Speaker 1>made them different. So she proposed that she and Emily

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<v Speaker 1>would go off to Brussels for a few months. Mary

0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:38.359
<v Speaker 1>Taylor was studying there and so she had a connection,

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<v Speaker 1>and they had hone their French and their Italian. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they'd pick up some German um, you know, pick up

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<v Speaker 1>these accomplishments that would make their school one that people

0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:51.440
<v Speaker 1>in the area would actually want to attend, and Aunt

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<v Speaker 1>Brandwell and Mr Bronte were game, you know, a little skeptical,

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<v Speaker 1>but they were. They were fine with it. Sounded like

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<v Speaker 1>an okay idea. So the Bronte start looking for a school,

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<v Speaker 1>and with their connections and Brussels, you know, they had

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<v Speaker 1>somebody on the on the other side of the channel.

0:26:05.600 --> 0:26:07.840
<v Speaker 1>He could do the legwork for them, and they ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>found a school that was high quality but pretty inexpensive,

0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:15.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, within their budget, and in January forty two

0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:19.440
<v Speaker 1>they settled on the Paulson A A j. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>where we're going to leave off for this episode. I

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<v Speaker 1>can say at this point, you know, the Brontes are

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<v Speaker 1>all grown up. We have exited the growing up Bronte phase.

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<v Speaker 1>And next time we're going to be talking about their

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<v Speaker 1>time in Belgium, their education, and then the three breakout

0:26:34.480 --> 0:26:36.960
<v Speaker 1>novels of course that are published in just one year,

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<v Speaker 1>and then as we know, all of the family tragedy

0:26:40.320 --> 0:26:44.440
<v Speaker 1>that starts um piling up towards the to the end

0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:47.320
<v Speaker 1>of the Bronte saga. Plus we're gonna talk a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about the reputation of the Brontes, which is something

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm very interested in discussing in more detail. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting how that reputation evolves, and um the part

0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:02.280
<v Speaker 1>that some of the Brontes themselves playing that. Today we

0:27:02.320 --> 0:27:04.720
<v Speaker 1>just think of them as great novelist, but during the

0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Victorian period they were also scandalous women. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good time for us to move on to

0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:16.120
<v Speaker 1>listener mail and maybe discuss another recent literature related podcasts

0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:22.399
<v Speaker 1>we covered. So we have two emails here that we

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:26.320
<v Speaker 1>want to read about our Elizabeth Barrett Browning slash Robert

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:30.639
<v Speaker 1>Browning podcast. We talked about their relationship and how that

0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:33.760
<v Speaker 1>developed and blossomed over the years. We have one here

0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:37.080
<v Speaker 1>from Anna Lisa. She says, I just finished listening to

0:27:37.119 --> 0:27:40.199
<v Speaker 1>the Elizabeth Barrett Brownie and Robert Brownie podcast and I

0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:42.640
<v Speaker 1>love it. But I can't believe you guys didn't talk

0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:46.159
<v Speaker 1>more about Flush, Elizabeth's Dog. If you aren't aware of

0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:50.240
<v Speaker 1>Virginia Wolfs remarkable little book, Flush of Biography, I highly

0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:52.920
<v Speaker 1>recommend it as both an imaginative look at the world

0:27:53.000 --> 0:27:56.200
<v Speaker 1>through the dog's eyes and a unique perspective on Elizabeth

0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:59.919
<v Speaker 1>and Robert's romance and marriage. Incidentally, I would also love

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:02.240
<v Speaker 1>if you did a podcast on Wolf someday, so she

0:28:02.320 --> 0:28:05.920
<v Speaker 1>throws up a little suggestion there, But yeah, we did.

0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:08.840
<v Speaker 1>We mentioned that Elizabeth's dog was one of the few

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:12.680
<v Speaker 1>possessions that she took with her when they away. Yes,

0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:16.119
<v Speaker 1>but we didn't go. We didn't have time to really

0:28:16.160 --> 0:28:20.480
<v Speaker 1>explore flush. Now I feel like I should stave off

0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:24.359
<v Speaker 1>any other listener emails by noting getting it out there

0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:27.720
<v Speaker 1>that Emily Bronte is really a famous dog lover. To

0:28:27.960 --> 0:28:31.720
<v Speaker 1>get a massive would do these pretty watercolors of it.

0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:35.879
<v Speaker 1>So that's officially on the record now. We also got

0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:40.480
<v Speaker 1>a letter about Elizabeth Barrett and Robert Browning from Tasha,

0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:45.560
<v Speaker 1>who is studying English and American literature in England, and

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:48.800
<v Speaker 1>she said she was researching Browning from my Last Duchess,

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:52.280
<v Speaker 1>which you mentioned in your podcast about Browning and Elizabeth Barrett.

0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:55.720
<v Speaker 1>Apparently the Duchess and the poem is based on one

0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:59.840
<v Speaker 1>of the Medici family. Like Queen Victoria, they just get everywhere.

0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:03.560
<v Speaker 1>Lacrazia di Cosomo de Medici was the daughter of Cosomo

0:29:03.600 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 1>the first Medici and the sister of Francesco the first

0:29:06.840 --> 0:29:11.200
<v Speaker 1>e Medici, who was the unfortunate quote father in the

0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Medici Murders in a Basket Baby podcast. Aged fourteen, she

0:29:16.080 --> 0:29:19.680
<v Speaker 1>married Alonso the second death Day, the fifth Duke of Ferrara,

0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 1>who went on to abandon her for two years before

0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:27.760
<v Speaker 1>she died aged just seventeen, of suspected poisoning. That was

0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:30.560
<v Speaker 1>the way a lot of people went back. Then. Ferrara

0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:33.600
<v Speaker 1>went on to marry Barbara of Austria, daughter of the

0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Holy Roman Emperor of Fernand the First. I thought this

0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:39.760
<v Speaker 1>was an interesting link between the two subjects that you

0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:43.720
<v Speaker 1>guys might appreciate. I always like a Medici connection, so

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<v Speaker 1>thank you Tasha for sharing that. And I like my

0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:49.720
<v Speaker 1>last duchess to We talked about that that that episode

0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:53.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't we um, so thank you guys. It's always neat

0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:58.760
<v Speaker 1>to have some more literary insight or dog insight on subjects,

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 1>and I that's kind of while we're talking about the

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:05.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know insight and sources. It was cool to

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<v Speaker 1>research the Brontes because there is so much information on them,

0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:14.280
<v Speaker 1>which is honestly not something that usually happens for most

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:17.480
<v Speaker 1>of our podcast subject Usually we have to dig and

0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 1>dig and dig, so it is kind of nice. Once

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:21.600
<v Speaker 1>in a while when you have those topics where it's

0:30:21.640 --> 0:30:23.600
<v Speaker 1>just all kind of laid out for you. Well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>strange too, though, because there's so much information on them

0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:30.480
<v Speaker 1>that you get biographies that are countering other biographies. I mean,

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:33.160
<v Speaker 1>I've mentioned the Rebecca Fraser biography, which I really like,

0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:37.440
<v Speaker 1>but the kind of well it is the original Charlotte

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:40.400
<v Speaker 1>Bronte biography is the Mrs Gaskell one, and that's full

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:45.600
<v Speaker 1>of spin in addition to actual biographical information, something again

0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:48.240
<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about in the second episode. There's even a

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:51.680
<v Speaker 1>whole scholarly journal devoted to the Bronte that was really

0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:54.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of overwhelmed in this episode in a good way. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's true. That makes it harder in a

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<v Speaker 1>way because you have to kind of find the commonality

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:02.280
<v Speaker 1>us and figure out what's sort of in their aerie

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:07.160
<v Speaker 1>and what's real. Yeah, vastly conflicting opinions about these women

0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:09.640
<v Speaker 1>in their lives. So, um, I don't know, it's it's

0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:12.440
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