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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you. Nick eating the Dallas Cowboys Encyclopedia.

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Speaker 1: I like to twas Cowboys dot Com and he needs

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Speaker 1: no introduction. Former safety Dallas Cowboys, got a few rings,

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Speaker 1: got a few Pro bowls. Darren woods In so excited

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Speaker 1: to have you here, and boy, do we have some

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Speaker 1: safety talk. You know, I knew that was coming early hour. Man. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so you work. When you say work, you're you're over

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Speaker 1: spend uh most of my days here. I'm a partner

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Speaker 1: run into Nick and the hallways you don't even speak

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Speaker 1: to him. He used to be boy. All right, go

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Speaker 1: to the office and see what kind of life size

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Speaker 1: I've got the perfect people on set with me tonight

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Speaker 1: just to talk about what all happened with Jamal Adams

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Speaker 1: the trade deadline. We'll get to Michael Bennett shortly, of course,

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Speaker 1: who is a Dallas Cowboy, But just everything you guys

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Speaker 1: were hearing and how it didn't work out and what

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Speaker 1: that kind of means for the state of this team. Nick,

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Speaker 1: I'll start with you, Well, you know, safety is an

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Speaker 1: important position, right and uh, but I still feel like

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Speaker 1: haven't in a long time. They haven't drafted number one

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Speaker 1: better and they didn't want to the compensation that it

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Speaker 1: didn't meet. But for me, I would have tried to

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Speaker 1: that gets them as a Super Bowl contender. Well, how

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Speaker 1: much are you willing to give up? Well, a little

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Speaker 1: So what was the offer? Do we do? We know

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Speaker 1: and I'll give you a one. Yeah. So here's my question.

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Speaker 1: And when when everybody says how close it was, especially

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Speaker 1: your beloved national media. Yeah, if you're asking if if,

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Speaker 1: if I'm offering you a one and you're asking for

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Speaker 1: We're interested and we're serious, and you're interested in you're serious,

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Speaker 1: but you're basically asking for three times what I'm offering.

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Speaker 1: a kid that is a staple of that defense. He's

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Speaker 1: offensively to get Amari Cooper. Here, you're talking about a

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Speaker 1: It wasn't like they're going to get a twenty seven

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Speaker 1: this is where the Rams once again mess everybody up

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Speaker 1: So let's slow down a little bit. Well, Mike, they

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Speaker 1: And that goes to next point when Nick, you said,

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Speaker 1: you know they prioritize it to a point. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: I mean, it prioritize, but it's twentieth and you can't

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Speaker 1: Darren Woodson's or pay them that way. But but they

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Speaker 1: Jamal Adams was pretty upset with they went behind his

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Speaker 1: He didn't call the cowboys. He wasn't reaching out the teams.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's the same that Jamal Adams

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Speaker 1: And if they are then didn't anyone's trade and guys,

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Speaker 1: So the idea that that the Jets would say, well,

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Speaker 1: he kind of does indicate that he might someday want

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Speaker 1: win all the games i can. If I'm the Jets,

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to give away my best player, and

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Speaker 1: he really might be their best player. What if Dallas

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Speaker 1: would have called his bluff. What if Dallas would have

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Speaker 1: called his bluff? Do you think he makes that deal up?

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Speaker 1: The first Dallas gives up a one in two twos,

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Speaker 1: you think you think you make the trade? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean one in two twos. Well, listen, if you're the

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Speaker 1: Jets and you're trying to rebuild, listen, I mean you

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Speaker 1: can't bust on the Jets because they beat you. Remember

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Speaker 1: as you're thinking about busting on the Jets, but think

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Speaker 1: more than one player away. There there there, They're personnel

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Speaker 1: is not scouts picks exactly, Scout. What do you do,

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Speaker 1: But they're one they're more than one player away. But

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Speaker 1: really win if you keep giving away twenty four year

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Speaker 1: once you get a twenty four year old Pro Bowl superstar,

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Speaker 1: to massage him and make them happy. Are the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: line one about this line one. Line one about playing

426
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Speaker 1: in the NFL is just you know, being a great

427
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Speaker 1: football player. If you're a great football player, and what

428
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: you were around in the nineties, you saw that guys

429
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Speaker 1: that are great football players that get a little bit

430
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 1: longer LEAs there. Yeah, you know, and he's done that.

431
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: And yeah, he's controversial because he goes to these places,

432
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: but he makes plays. If he gets a sack with

433
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and I think he will at some point,

434
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 1: he'll be the I think it's the fifth player in

435
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: NFL history to get a sack with at least five

436
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: different teams. So he's going to different places and he's producing. Yeah,

437
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 1: I think that to me when you when you when

438
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: you look at what he brings, it far outweighs what

439
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 1: Mike might be talking about. You know, you you take

440
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: chances on players that you think they are about to

441
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,120
Speaker 1: play some teams where quarterbacks can light them up. As

442
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: you know, you know, maybe in this week, and this

443
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 1: kid's pretty good. I'm not saying he's gonna light you

444
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: up exactly, but you gotta affect the pocket with him.

445
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: You watch the Arizona game that he had trouble holding

446
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: on the ball in the pocket, But think about after

447
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 1: that Minnesota, Detroit, New England. You know all those guys, Yeah,

448
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 1: all those guys can all those all those teams can

449
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: light you up if you don't affect the pocket. And

450
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 1: then this is one of those trades when you look

451
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: at you saying, hey, go get him and and and

452
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: hopefully let everything else sort itself, you know, And this

453
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 1: is next job of my job and your job. We

454
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: have to figure out how to differentiate between a controversial

455
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 1: guy and a bad guy. Yeah, just because you're controversial

456
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: or interesting or have an opinion doesn't make you evil. No,

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00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: you know what, Listen, sometimes you need guys like that

458
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 1: in your locker room. Yeah, I mean, you're you're not

459
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: gonna have a bunch of choir boys in your locker room.

460
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 1: And when you win games. We won in the nineties

461
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 1: and two of them that were not choir boys. But

462
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 1: you know, so sometimes you need to shake it up

463
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 1: a little bit and have a guy like like a

464
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: Michael Bennet to come in, comes in and says, hey,

465
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold you accountable. Yeah, yeah, for your actions,

466
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: whether it be tank or whoever it is down the line.

467
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: Because he's a veteran presence. He knows what he can

468
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 1: do on the football field, and if he can shake

469
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: things up in the locker room and maybe, hey, look,

470
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: sometimes you might have some fights in the locker room. Yeah,

471
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: you may have some disagreements, but when you get out

472
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 1: there on Sunday. Those dogs are out there and they're

473
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: a hunting And we talked about it earlier about Jamal Adams.

474
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: He's a dog. Talking about Michael Bennett when he's on

475
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Speaker 1: the field and he's between the lines, he's gonna get

476
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Speaker 1: you all. What I think about this locker room, Nick Fish,

477
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 1: you're in there. I think this is the exact locker

478
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Speaker 1: room that will handle that well. They love meshing that

479
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: they take criticism from each other all the time. It's

480
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: like it's kind of like a thing they make themselves do.

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00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: I guess the Hot Boys group. So I think he'll

482
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: fit in perfect. Like I said, if you make plays,

483
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: he'll fit in forgiven. Robert Quinn, I mean, gosh, he's

484
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 1: the best example of that. I was not ready for

485
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: him to explode on the scene. He's another Robert Quinn's

486
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 1: another example of Oh he's a dangerous guys, locker room guy.

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00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: He's so I love talking. He just has a social conscience.

488
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 1: What we used to say around here is about I

489
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: want I want you to be a Garrett guy. I

490
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: don't want you to be a loose Starrett guy. Yeah,

491
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: meaning the general manager owner, start to jail. Yeah, you

492
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 1: know every once in a while Darren Woodson's Cowboys, there

493
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: was a three am phone call and somebody had to

494
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: go down and get somebody that does wear on a franchise.

495
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: It does, it wears a locker room. But Michael Bennett,

496
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,199
Speaker 1: the first text I got from inside this building was

497
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: he's never been in that kind of trouble. He doesn't

498
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 1: it doesn't have those kind of issues. He simply has

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00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: opinions and he expresses him. He's an interesting guy. I've

500
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: never met him, but I guarantee you if you, if

501
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: you is related and he is to Martellis, been in Yeah,

502
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: and he's an interesting human being. There's nobody is more

503
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: interesting than Martellis. But to Mike's point, he really, he

504
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: really wasn't a guy that got into trouble. I do

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00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: remember him getting some kind of incident. I know he

506
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: had to do an apology that Jerry Jones and he

507
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: wrapped it. You know, he wasn't. He wasn't. It wasn't

508
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: just a normal apology. He got on YouTube and wrapped it.

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00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: I mean, he's different. And I think Michael ben Is

510
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: he's an author, you know, and it's incredible books. A

511
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: little sounds controversial, but yeah, hey, man, I could care less.

512
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: Can you ball? Absolutely? Can you get off the step count? Okay?

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00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: But in your debt the quarterback, I'm serious, man, in

514
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: the locker room, we don't I don't care if you

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00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: can play the guitar on Sundays right or if you're

516
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: on the in the choir, can you get off the ball?

517
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: And I used to play with a guy in number

518
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Speaker 1: ninety four, and we all know who Charles Haley is.

519
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: He was not the nicest guy to the media, to

520
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: his teammates. I don't know what you're talking about. But

521
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: on Sundays, you knew that dog was gonna hunt and

522
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: he was gonna show up, so I could get I'm

523
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: telling you, Okay. As far as far as the players,

524
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: the number one goal is to what win a championship,

525
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: absolutely not to be your best friend. And Michael Bennett

526
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: came in here to win a championship. Marty b today

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00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: with Sean and r J said something really interesting. He said,

528
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: I did not like playing for Jason Garrett, but I

529
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: didn't dislike Jason Garrett. And he said, now that I'm older,

530
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: I can see he were almost kind of admitting maybe

531
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: I was a little immature at the time, and as

532
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: an older player, maybe maybe I couldn't get along better. Well,

533
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: his brother is now going to turn thirty four on

534
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: November nineteenth. That counts as an older player. This can work,

535
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: all right, We're gonna take a quick break when we

536
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: come back. Darry Jones also was on the fan and said,

537
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: I think this Cowboys team has the potential to be

538
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl contender. But I'll tell you the rest

539
00:30:25,440 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: of that on the other side of this break back

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Speaker 1: back to the SWBC Mortgage Dallas Cowboys Happy oh Yet

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Speaker 1: broadcasting live from the Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco.

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Speaker 1: Glad to be here on the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network

543
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: with you all in case you're just tuning in. Mike Fisher,

544
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: Brian brought as nick Eman and former Cowboy at Darren Woodson.

545
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: We have discussed it all as far as the trade deadline,

546
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: and now moving forward, I want to talk about this team.

547
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: We're not coming off a game, We're coming off a

548
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: bye week. Everybody got their rest, But now is where

549
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: the schedule really toughens up and this thing is going

550
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: to get serious. And Jerry Jones one on one oh

551
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: five three the fan and said, think this team has

552
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: the potential to be a super Bowl contender, but I don't.

553
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: I don't think that the way we have played so far,

554
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: we'll get us there. And I love that. I mean

555
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 1: he just came straight out. This was before the trade deadline,

556
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: so that's kind of when we were like, Oh, something

557
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: happening today. But yeah, I mean, what are we gonna have?

558
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: Some change? Big changes? I mean, this team cannot be

559
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: up and down an inconsistent anymore period. Well, I think

560
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: it obviously starts with the players. I mean, it's not

561
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: an excuse, but you can't lose key players and expect

562
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: to win. And I don't think I'm not calling it

563
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: an excuse. I don't think they're as deep as we

564
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: thought they were from one to fifty three. That's what

565
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: the Patriots have always been great att They may not

566
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: have superstar players all across the board other than the

567
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: best quarterback maybe, but one to fifty three they just

568
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: come at you in waves. And I think we've found

569
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: out with that Jets game, that you lose the key

570
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: players at key position, it's hard for them to They

571
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: can't win, they can't beat the country free. It's not

572
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 1: even an excuse, it's a reality. Yeah. I'm glad Nick

573
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: said that because I've had to look at myself in

574
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: the mirror coming out of watching thirty training camp practices.

575
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: And you think a OTA's training camp practice, Okay, Lee

576
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: Collins is going to be this, Xavier Woods is going

577
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: to be this. Oh, watch Michael Gallup do this? Hey

578
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 1: that Blake Jarwin, Nick, don't forget him, you know. And

579
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: I look at myself now, and I'm thinking, did I

580
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 1: hype these guys up? Myself? Did my own evaluation maybe

581
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: blind some people out there that listen to me, and

582
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: you know, and you have to kind of self evaluate,

583
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: evaluate the evaluator, you know. And I'm glad what you

584
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 1: said because I felt like that Jets game, yes winnable.

585
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: Did they play at a level to win that game? No,

586
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 1: absolutely not. They needed They needed Michael Gallop to play

587
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: very well in that game, had some drops, you know,

588
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 1: they needed some of those backups. They needed Cam Fleming

589
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: not to get Dak Prescott hit every other play, not

590
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: to defend your h Willie Collins is going to the

591
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl because I think I was standing next to

592
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: you when you said that in his rookie year. Yeah,

593
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: but you know who drives the positivity train, and maybe

594
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: it's not all your fault. Jerry Poppins, Gerald Wayne Jones,

595
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: Jerry Poppins And I don't know if he's aware of

596
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: it that I nicknamed him that years ago, but if

597
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: you're here, Jerry Poppins, and it's not a cutdown, No,

598
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: it's he's so he's so optimistic, he's yeah, he shoves

599
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,439
Speaker 1: a spoonful of sugar down your throat when he loses

600
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: the Jets. It's awesome. But maybe that's what makes us

601
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: think this is the year he's the best he could be,

602
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: just like Darren Woodson, He's almost like Don He's when

603
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: how many guys are really almost like Deon? How many

604
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: guys are really almost like Darren Woodson? Who who is

605
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: really the next Emmatt Smith? Who is really the next

606
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: Michael Irvitt. They're kind of rare, And so maybe Jerry's

607
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: incredible salesmanship is what causes us all to just fall

608
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,479
Speaker 1: in line with the pie piper slash j named four

609
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: guys from the mid nineties. Maybe that's the problem too,

610
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 1: is that you gotta turn You didn't name any right,

611
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: but we're trying to We're trying to turn the page

612
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: from ninety five. You try to turn the page for

613
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: the next Super Bowl. You know, the conversation, there's no

614
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: there's no writing on the page. You and you know.

615
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: I had a conversation with Sean Lee. I actually saw

616
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 1: Sean coming out of a restaurant and he was talking.

617
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: This is about three years ago, and he made mention

618
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: of the teams in the nineties and he said, man,

619
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: we're trying to be like you know, those teams in

620
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: the nineties. And I and I sat back and I

621
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: thought about it. I said, you know, man, you got

622
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: this is a talented football team. You don't who cares

623
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: about what we did in the past. Yeah, you know,

624
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: build your own team. And and we sat there and

625
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: had this conver a quick conversation about it. But he

626
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 1: was you know, he shook his head. He's like, yeah,

627
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 1: you're right, man. You know, we can't worry about what

628
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: you guys did. Then we gotta make our own history.

629
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Speaker 1: And I think this team this year, and I know

630
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: they've had their ups and downs, they've lost three straight

631
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: and they did finally bounce back, But this team this

632
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: year is a team that every time they go out

633
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 1: on the field win healthy and healthy at key positions.

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00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: I would take this personnel over ninety eight percent of

635
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: the personnels out there in the league. I think this

636
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: team has the ability to win each and every weekend.

637
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: I know, coming down the line here they have to

638
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: take care of business against the Giants, and everyone's counting

639
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: the Patriots game as a loss. I'm not counting that

640
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: game as the losses. I go. I think if they

641
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: go in they're healthy. Yeah, they will match up extremely

642
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: well against the Patriots. What is the missing piece from

643
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: your perspective for this team of not being able to

644
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: get to finish. I wish I had. I wish I

645
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 1: had the answer to that, because I wish I had

646
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: the answer to that. I just I just don't know.

647
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: I can't put my finger off. But what is to

648
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: you know? Again, and I'm not I'm trying, But you

649
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: played for the man. No, but you played for the man,

650
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 1: you know, And that's the problem. That's what That's what

651
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: the lynchpin is to us because I grew up here.

652
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: I grew up in Dallas for twenty years. I watched

653
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: Tom Landry when I have a winning season every year.

654
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: So coaching matters in this organization. Trust me. I was

655
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: with Dave Campbell. I apologize to him every day that

656
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: I didn't help him enough when you were playing. Yea,

657
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: I do I apologize. I go, Dave, we didn't help you.

658
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 1: Coaching matters here, it does matter. But there's no way

659
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: to know if the coaching is bringing you up or

660
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: bringing you down until you win a super Bowl, in

661
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 1: which case you said, boy, wait, they had the best

662
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 1: coach and that's okay. How do you know, Well, see

663
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: that's what you said. You look at it and say, Okay,

664
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Speaker 1: was Doug Peterson a good coach or did he have

665
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: a really good I don't know. That's saying though. He

666
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: looked like a dope last week when he made a

667
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: guarantee in the morning and then took back the guarantee

668
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: in the afternoon, thus telling his players. I was just kidding, Yeah,

669
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: what a weird non guarantee way to suck the confidence

670
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: out of your team. But Doug Peterson won a super Bowl,

671
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: and therefore I guess he's better in Garrett. But I

672
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: don't know if he's better in Garrett. I have no

673
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: idea that I think a lot of to do with

674
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,919
Speaker 1: coaching is you know, we always talk about leadership, and

675
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of coaches that have this vision

676
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: and they come in with this game plan and this

677
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: vision and this is these are the keys to success,

678
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 1: and this is what you're gonna have to do. You know, players,

679
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: forget the vision. The players are gonna follow the leadership.

680
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: They really are. I mean, I'm gonna follow you as

681
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: a coach. When Bill Parcels came in here, he said, listen,

682
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: this is score stirt process. I'm killing everything. Yeah, the mentality,

683
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: the culture, everything's gone and we're starting all over again.

684
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 1: And I firmly believed in Bill Parcels. Forget the vision.

685
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: I believed in Parcels. And then he took us through

686
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: the vision, and then he took us through the game plan.

687
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: But it wasn't the vision and the game plan. It

688
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 1: was I believe in that man. And then I bought

689
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: into him. And then he took us because of because

690
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: he was consistent. No, he was forget his past. He

691
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 1: was truly consistent in what he said. But it's going

692
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: to go this way. This is how practices are going

693
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 1: to I'm gonna educate you, teacher to them. And he

694
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: held your hand through the process. Even the guys that

695
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: were eleven twelve years in the league. There was there

696
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: was no separation. I'm gonna hold your hand through the

697
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: process and show you how it works, not tell you.

698
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you how it works, and then you're

699
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: gonna win. But see, one of the traits you could

700
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: say about this coach currently is he's consistent. Yes, because

701
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: you don't see the peaks and valleys with this. And

702
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: that's why you do see guys. You don't see players

703
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: quit on him. I mean, you can have a bad

704
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,439
Speaker 1: loss against the Jets and the message is the same

705
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: against the Jets as it was against the Philadelphia But

706
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 1: then we turned back around. Is this a talent thing?

707
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,439
Speaker 1: Like it's a never I'm trying to figure out though,

708
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: Like I'm trying to find I'm like the Bob Seeker song.

709
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: I'm working on mysteries without any clues right now. You know,

710
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: how old are you? What kind of a yeah? You

711
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: know that I don't even know that, no idea, that's

712
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: a song from without any clues. But see the thing

713
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: about it is though to me, I'm trying to figure

714
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: that out. Okay, if the talent is here, the coaching

715
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: say where what is it? Front off? I try asking

716
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: what he no, no, and I was trying to get

717
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: him to say maybe, well, maybe it might be the coaches.

718
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 1: I wanted him to say safety. Yeah, no, fans say that.

719
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 1: I mean the fans. That's one thing that they're they're

720
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: on and they've always been that way on Jeff Eith

721
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: and Jeff Beath has played great for this team. But

722
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be a safety. How about just

723
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: as player a playmaking Yeah, badass change, going to make

724
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,919
Speaker 1: a play, going to get an interception, like like if

725
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: it's a two point conversion to tie the game and

726
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: you just come darting right up the middle and just

727
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 1: past the quarterback like Um Adams did. Jamal Adams did

728
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: do that. Last player, Yeah, Greg, Greg Williams said, I

729
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: might lose the game play, but I'm gonna bring this guy.

730
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 1: I'm bringing my best player through that a gap and

731
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: see that, you know, And that's the question I do have,

732
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: Like you know, there's some very good football players on

733
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: this football team. Byron Jones is an excellent football player.

734
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: Cheeto is an excellent but ball player. And I get

735
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 1: on them when I see them at times because Byron

736
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: is good enough and capable enough of not just making

737
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: the plays but making an interception and turning it around,

738
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: turning the game Cheeto the same way. And that's part

739
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: of my frustration is is watching these guys that are

740
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: capable of not just knocking the ball down, but turn around,

741
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: making interception, taking it back, you know, the game, change

742
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: the outlook of the game. They are capable that, but

743
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 1: it seems like they're they just don't make those plays.

744
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: I'm for that, real talk from somebody who lived it.

745
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: I just wanted to get past the mythology of let's

746
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: go to the Eagles again. Who was the coach before Peterson?

747
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: The fast paced, the key so he goes in there

748
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: after Andy Reid, who was wildly successful, right, used to

749
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: have you know, fat guy Fridays and we'd have you know,

750
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: bacon cheeseburgers. It's tall and Chip Kelly goes in there

751
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: and said, fat guy Fridays are out. We're going with

752
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: We're going with yogurt Tuesdays and we're gonna eat healthier.

753
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: And it was a genius. It was a genie. He's

754
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: changed everything. When they won their first couple of games,

755
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: then they lost, you will figure him out and then

756
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: you realize it doesn't really have anything to do with

757
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 1: tacos or pep talks, or it has to do with

758
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 1: talent and then directing the talent. And we're all saying

759
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys have talent, and so I guess it's

760
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: up to the coaching staff to direct the talent, and

761
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: obviously the Jones family ultimately we know this agrees with that,

762
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: all the guys in the last he's down to his

763
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: last nine games. If you look at that, the head coach,

764
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not and he does not have a

765
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: contract extension because we know on the table and needs

766
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 1: a premium, needs premium success to stay. That's how that's

767
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: the word edge I keep using. I think whatever that means.

768
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: I think the Joneses have been more impatient with him.

769
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: I really do more than yeah, yeah, I would agree. Yeah,

770
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: I mean to me, because you're talking to like a

771
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 1: clown like me, who's who was three years ago? It's

772
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: trying to fire him every week, you know what I'm saying.

773
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 1: I know, why do you agree with that? More patient?

774
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: But well, how long has has Jason Garrett been here?

775
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: Ten years years and we've set the same thing over

776
00:44:58,200 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 1: and over again. His team has the talent that we

777
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 1: we claim that the town to do so. I think

778
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: it's it's this year is going to prove a lot

779
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: sure figure out where where they land in the future.

780
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: But you know, listen, a head coach's job is, you know,

781
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: not only to lead the team, but to eliminate obstacles.

782
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you have to eliminate what whether it be.

783
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: You know, what's going on outside the building, what's going

784
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: on inside the building, eliminate. A leader will eliminate obstacles

785
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: to get to where you need to get to. And

786
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: that's up to Jason Garrett to do that. And that's

787
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: weekend and week out and those obstacles. You know, as

788
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: a football team, you see those obstacles every day. Guys

789
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: late for meetings, uh, not preparing the right way, not

790
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: going to treatment, those type of things. Those are obstacles

791
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 1: that you have to eliminate. I don't I'm not inside

792
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 1: the building. I don't know what's taking place. I know

793
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: when Bill Parcels came in, he eliminated, and I'm not

794
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: sure what's happening. You know, we didn't see it this

795
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: last game. But the biggest criticism on Jason Garrett's teams

796
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: so far this year was that they started out horribly

797
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,240
Speaker 1: flat and that's on the coaching staff, that's on somebody

798
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: getting them ready to play. We talk about this all

799
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: the time. You can win games, the players will win

800
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: you the game maybe on Sunday, but you can lose

801
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: it on Wednesday and Thursday if you check out and

802
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: you're not prepared and ready to go. And if you're

803
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: a boxer and I've never been one obviously, thankfully, but like,

804
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 1: if you get hit first, you're probably not gonna win.

805
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: You know, how many shots to the face do you

806
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: need before you finally all right, let's let's get this

807
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: thing going. You can do it against the Dolphins and

808
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: the Redskins and the Giants. You cannot do it against

809
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: the page. One of the issues for red Ball, I

810
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: think is that ten years is a long time for anybody. Yeah,

811
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: there's a reason Jimmy didn't stay here ten years, and

812
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: it wasn't because of the owner. I remember a conversation

813
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: with Mark, the late great Mark two and a. He

814
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: showed me his playbook one time in like year four

815
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: or whatever. I go, what's all that on the side,

816
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,240
Speaker 1: and he goes, oh, I doodle. I go you doodle

817
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: in meetings, because yeah, I've heard all the Jimmy speeches. Right,

818
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: it wasn't anything against Jimmy. It was just it was enough.

819
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: That was enough. We got that maybe this is enough

820
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 1: of Jason, although premium success could change that. All right,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna take our final break here from the Happy

822
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 1: Hour from the Cowboys Club. When we come back, I'm

823
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: gonna get inside these guys brands with a little hot

824
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: fire questions for them right here on the Dallas Cowboys

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00:47:11,040 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: Radio Network. Back back to the SWBC Mortgage Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Happy Oh yeah, checkout broadcasting live from the Cowboys Club

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Speaker 1: at the Star in Frisco. All right, Game seven update

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Speaker 1: for you. Astro's up one. Oh, looks like we're going

829
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: to bottom three right now. We are back on the

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Speaker 1: Happy Hour. Sorry, I had to throw that in there.

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00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: All right, we got a game to play here. Let's

832
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 1: just listen all the ideas out the window. Naked Nake,

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Speaker 1: help me come up with this one. It's a little

834
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Speaker 1: word association. So I'm gonna throw out the pagative. What

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw out a word? You're gonna give me

836
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 1: the player that you think of? Okay, so what are

837
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: your first Why do I have to go? You have

838
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 1: to go? So tell me a player on this team.

839
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: Then we'll just go down the line. The word is

840
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: as aggressive if I can get it right, aggressive or

841
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 1: aggression aggression, Uh, Lyle Collins on the opposite side of

842
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: the ball. Look, I don't know what it is about

843
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: the guy, but I this year there was something different

844
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: about Lyle Collins and I you know, and by I'll

845
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: let you break him down and what you're good? You're

846
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: real good. And I'm not watching film like I watched

847
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: at ESPN when I was at ESPN B and I'm

848
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: no longer at ESPION, so I'm just watching game film

849
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,280
Speaker 1: or a game day watching him. There's something special about

850
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: the kid this year. And I know in years past

851
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 1: he's been aggressive. He'll drill, he'll drill you on the

852
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: second level when he once he gets there. But he's

853
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: playing at a different level, different clip this year. And

854
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: I love his aggression. I love the way he plays

855
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: the game. All right, does this have to be is

856
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: somebody that is aggressive or needs to be more aggressive,

857
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: need to be more Kellen Moore, Kellen Moore, this ball

858
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:58,919
Speaker 1: needs to go down the field a little bit more.

859
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: I mean he was brought in to do some some

860
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: different things not be Scott Lanahan. It's been good, it's

861
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: been pretty good, but not in the first half of

862
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 1: the games. We gotta we gotta be a little bit

863
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: more aggressive. You've got Cooper, You've got Gallup and they're

864
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: finally I think healthy again, which the first two games

865
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: ever great. Just be a little bit more aggressive and

866
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: find more ways to get Zeke the ball. Doesn't have

867
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: to be running between the tackles. You know what, all

868
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: these other teams, Barkley's finding ways to catch it all

869
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: over the place. Just figure out different ways to get

870
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 1: him the ball. To be a little bit more aggressive.

871
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: That that was really creative. That was very creative outside

872
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: the box help. He helped think of the game. Did

873
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: I honestly didn't know that When I was going to

874
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: say Zeke, he's aggressive, He's see no, I will say

875
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: zee ze because you know, we like last the last game.

876
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: They're going to be some games where there it's going

877
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: to be tough, it's going to be tight, it's going

878
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 1: to be cold, it's going to be outdoors. They're going

879
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 1: to need him. He's not breaking long runs, but what

880
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,919
Speaker 1: he is is he's breaking people's next to try and talk,

881
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: trying to tackle him. I like the way he's finishing runs.

882
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, well he's done. Yeah, he's done it because

883
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: he's in shape because the first few games we weren't

884
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: seeing that. No, but he's but he hasn't. He doesn't

885
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,919
Speaker 1: to me, he doesn't have that extra gear. He really doesn't.

886
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: So it's he's kind of relying on himself. It's like, Okay,

887
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna gain twelve yards, I'm gonna make somebody

888
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: bit punished for that twelve yard because yeah, I don't

889
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: know if it's shape or it's just he's always kind

890
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: of been a slow starter. But it's not hit. It's

891
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: not shape when he's when he's got a shirt off, No,

892
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 1: it's not. No, but there's there's just no, there hasn't

893
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,760
Speaker 1: been the explosive home run and maybe maybe four hundred

894
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: touches the last two years is robbed, robbed him of that.

895
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna bounce a couple. Okay. When they

896
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 1: signed Lyle Collins here to this big contract, and you

897
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: probably heard some of these two people were saying up

898
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: top in the organization, he's like Eric Williams, Now, not

899
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: that kind of not that good of a player, but

900
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: that kind of nasty run and maybe that's something that

901
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: he has learned and it's grand. Nick. I love your

902
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,399
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore, but you can't be a little aggressive, because

903
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: that's not aggressive. A little more. I just want to

904
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: be an ncy pency. That ncy pency won't work. You're

905
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,760
Speaker 1: gonna be aggressive, be aggressive. My guy is Tank Lawrence,

906
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 1: and the reason why is because he eats life. He

907
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: plays aggressive, he talks aggressive, he lives aggressive. As you know,

908
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: he went to New York over the weekend and all

909
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: he can cut. He was excited to come back and

910
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 1: make fun of Giants fans. That was his job one

911
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: to come talk to me and say, you know, I

912
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 1: was in New York over the weekend. We went shopping.

913
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 1: The family saw a lot of cowboy fans out, didn't

914
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: really sandy Giants fans out. I love Tank lawrence aggression

915
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: as a person. He eats life. Love that all, right,

916
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: Start with you going back this way? Fish. Who is

917
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: efficient on this team? I think I think Jeff Heath

918
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 1: is efficient. Efficientisn't like makes the most of what they've got. Well, um,

919
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: and I know he's not good enough, but we keep

920
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: forgetting what he does on special teams. Yeah, he's a

921
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 1: core special teamer and we're so focused on Look at

922
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 1: the terrible goal he took on the guy who's twice

923
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,439
Speaker 1: as fast as he is. Okay, you got him. But

924
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 1: I bet you and Brian you can speak to this

925
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: better than me. I bet you, Jeff. He's grades on

926
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 1: special teams are gigantically high. Yeah, and that's pretty darn efficient.

927
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 1: It's not. It's not Earl Thomas, it's not Jamal Adams,

928
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:22,879
Speaker 1: but it's efficient. Love Byron Jones, very very Jones. I mean,

929
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: even when Byron Jones was hurt, they tried to attack him.

930
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: You know, he could have faltered badly then, and he didn't.

931
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 1: I think he's very efficient the way he plays. When

932
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 1: you look at the number of targets he faces, his

933
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,879
Speaker 1: ability to knock the ball away, to play the ball,

934
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 1: what he's asking for more picks and stuff. I agree

935
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 1: with that, But I think in the snaps that he faces,

936
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: he's very efficient. The way he goes about his job.

937
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:48,720
Speaker 1: And why do you always come up with these answers

938
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: that are just beneficient? Nobody, No, nobody's more consistent than him.

939
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: It's about to be colder than Brian said. These snaps

940
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: have got to be there. They lost a game because

941
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: of a snap in action. He's been an efficient player. Yeah,

942
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: I'm you're not lying. I'm serious, And I was gonna say, honestly,

943
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: Brett Maher as well. Now Maha, yeah, forty yards that's

944
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 1: not his spot right there, you know, moving back a

945
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 1: little bit or a lot actually, but you know, like

946
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: like Fish was saying about Jeff Heath, with special teams,

947
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 1: we're forgetting touchbacks are important too, that's gotta be done.

948
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 1: So every time someone says Bret Maher they could get

949
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,240
Speaker 1: somebody better, Well, number one, he's not kicking sixty yards,

950
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: and two, whoever's out there on the streets might be

951
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: kicking the ball out of bounds, might be popping it

952
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,439
Speaker 1: up to the ten yard line. So there's a big

953
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: part of it. I'm gonna say the whole special teams

954
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 1: right there, but Brett Maher and LP they have been efficient.

955
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: Maybe not as great as we want, but efficient. Love it.

956
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: I would say Amari Cooper, Yeah, yeah, the most efficient

957
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: you know we left that. I was gonna take Byron Jones,

958
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 1: but uh, I would say MARII just the fact of

959
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: his route running, yeah, and how efficient he is as

960
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 1: far as winning at the line of scrimmage, getting out

961
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: of his brakes, winning one on one battles when he

962
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: has them alone, when he's out there alone by himself,

963
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: and then finding the right spots. And I think he's

964
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: he's made this offense more efficient moving the ball down

965
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: the field, and it's made Dak a better passer in

966
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 1: the passing game. Guys, I cannot believe the show's already

967
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: on the stets in like twenty seconds. Please get a

968
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,040
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969
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,200
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970
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,680
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971
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,080
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972
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973
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