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Speaker 1: But he got some juice because he he picked a

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Speaker 1: fight with Donald Trump, right. It gave him some energy,

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Speaker 1: It gave him juice. It allowed him to stand out

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Speaker 1: in a way he hadn't been able to stand out

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Speaker 1: yet among those that are pondering twenty eight. So that

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Speaker 1: was what I was hanging by. I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is interesting. There's two but I wasn't ready to

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Speaker 1: write about it until I saw the announcement video for

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Speaker 1: Jasmine Crockett. She, of course, is the Dallas congresswoman I've

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Speaker 1: interviewed here. I really encourage anybody who didn't catch that

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Speaker 1: interview I did with her a few months ago to

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Speaker 1: go back and listen to that interview with Jasmine Crockett,

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Speaker 1: because I can I tell you I went into it

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Speaker 1: with one idea of who she is, and I came

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Speaker 1: out of it with a totally different idea. I think

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Speaker 1: people underestimate her at your own peril. I think this

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Speaker 1: is somebody who might be too quick. So maybe she

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Speaker 1: speaks too quick, maybe she speaks faster than she thinks sometimes,

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Speaker 1: But the point is she's always thinking and she's very

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Speaker 1: savvy and she doesn't make the same mistake twice, which

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Speaker 1: is always interesting with with smart politicians. But her announcement

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Speaker 1: video was even more It was sort of even more

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Speaker 1: grounded in fight if you will, with Trump, it's just

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Speaker 1: her in silence. You know that she doesn't say a word.

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Speaker 1: All you do is hear every Donald Trump insult against Crockett.

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Speaker 1: So it's just Donald Trump's voiceover insulting Jasmine Crockett in

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Speaker 1: all sorts of ways or intellect, et cetera. How about

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Speaker 1: this new one. They have their new star, Crocket. How

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Speaker 1: about her, She's the new star of the Democrat Party,

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Speaker 1: Jasmine Crockett. They're in big trouble, but you have this

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Speaker 1: woman Crockett. She's a very low IQ person. I watched

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Speaker 1: her speak the other day. She's definitely a low IQ person. Crocket.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, oh man.

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Speaker 2: She's a very low IQ person.

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Speaker 1: And it's just first it's a stone faced Crockett and

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Speaker 1: then at the end she smiles. But it's so there's

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Speaker 1: my trend, right, which is are you going to run

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Speaker 1: on something, are you going to run on an ideology,

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Speaker 1: or are you going to run as a fighter? And

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Speaker 1: right now, the fastest way to get traction in democratic

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Speaker 1: politics is to be a fighter. It's more than being

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Speaker 1: left or right. It really is fight versus unite. Right,

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Speaker 1: there's I've said there's sort of there are multiple divides

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Speaker 1: inside each party. The two biggest in the Democratic side

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Speaker 1: are the agressives and the sort of centrist. That's a

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Speaker 1: big one and not insignificant, and certainly one that is

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Speaker 1: that could hold Democrats back from having a massive successful

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Speaker 1: election Night twenty twenty six, depending on how these primaries

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Speaker 1: pay out. But the problem is the primary voter wants

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Speaker 1: a fighter. Now they'll take a centrist if you're a fighter.

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Speaker 1: And that's the point I'm making here. I think it's

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Speaker 1: fascinating to watch, particularly with Newsom and Kelly, because having

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Speaker 1: the fighter sort of picking a fight with Trump avoids

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Speaker 1: the progressive litmus tests, and in some ways you can

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Speaker 1: you can connect with progressives on emotion rather than on substance,

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Speaker 1: and you can and that look, Bill Clinton, I would argue,

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Speaker 1: was able to win over the base of the party

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Speaker 1: when he showed himself to be a fighter. He never

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Speaker 1: changed his ideology, he never sort of veered left on ideology,

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Speaker 1: you know, he was always sort of very much in

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Speaker 1: the center left, but he showed he was willing to

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Speaker 1: punch back and so and certainly when he took a

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Speaker 1: hit with impeachment, that's when the base really finally fell

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Speaker 1: in love with him, because again, he showed himself to

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Speaker 1: be a fighter. So I think there's I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: that this might not you know, that this might be

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Speaker 1: a necessity if you want to run for office in

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Speaker 1: twenty six or twenty eight, but I will lament that.

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Speaker 1: You know, if I could argue that Democrats are going

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Speaker 1: down the same road that Republicans have been on for

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Speaker 1: the last decade, which is Republicans don't run on anything.

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Speaker 1: They don't run on any big ideas. What they really

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Speaker 1: run on is owning the lips, right, Like that's the

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Speaker 1: cohesive messaging, which is fight back, right, it's been I've

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Speaker 1: heard it from conservatives. So you got to fight back,

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Speaker 1: and you know there's not enough fight. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: in fact, it gets me to one more item. I

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Speaker 1: want to get to get to you guys here in

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Speaker 1: a minute. That kind of fits this sometimes where the

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Speaker 1: where the left and the right aren't very self aware

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Speaker 1: of their own of their own behavior sometimes. But Republicans

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Speaker 1: have been running on this sort of just looking for fighters,

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Speaker 1: and in some ways you can overcome certain you know,

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Speaker 1: old stances, whether it's neocon stuff or it's formally democratic

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Speaker 1: ideas or quote unquote woke things if you bring the

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Speaker 1: fight to owning the libs right, and now you really

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Speaker 1: have a democratic party that may be more animated by

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Speaker 1: looking for those that are willing to quote unquote own

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Speaker 1: the magas right, you know, own the right. The downside

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Speaker 1: to this is you don't stand for anything, and I

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Speaker 1: think there's a little more risk there for Republicans, for

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Speaker 1: Democrats on that than republicans. I think there's a chunk

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Speaker 1: of voters that do expect Democrats to stand for something,

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Speaker 1: do expect a lot of issue papers and white papers,

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Speaker 1: and there could be some disappointment in that when that's missing,

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Speaker 1: And I could argue that, you know, I wish you know.

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Speaker 1: Another part of my sub stack is, you know, we've

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Speaker 1: got a lot of important issues we should be debating,

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Speaker 1: but even on the even if we debate the right issue,

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Speaker 1: we debate it the wrong way. Let me give you

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Speaker 1: an example. Take take immigration. Right we fight it is

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Speaker 1: kind of an eighty twenty issue as if it is

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Speaker 1: xenophobia versus open borders, when really what we should be

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Speaker 1: debating is what does a functional citizenship pathway look like?

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Speaker 1: What do modernized worker visas look like? How do you

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Speaker 1: increase strong border security in addition to having more legal immigration.

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Speaker 1: These are fifty one to forty nine issues, meaning you know,

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Speaker 1: the country's pretty divided on these solutions. They're not divided

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Speaker 1: on the big ticket ideas, but they we really should

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Speaker 1: have a debate on, Okay, how would we do this?

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Speaker 1: And we're not going to have that debate public education

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Speaker 1: is another one. We just us you know, school choices

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Speaker 1: just shorthand for conflict. It isn't for the debate. If

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Speaker 1: if you look at it as a fifty one forty

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Speaker 1: nine problem, then we would be having a debate about

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Speaker 1: teacher retention, funding formulas. How would we teach ai in classrooms?

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Speaker 1: What is the purpose of high school in the twenty

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Speaker 1: first century versus what it was in the twentieth century

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Speaker 1: versus what it was in the nineteenth century. But that's

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Speaker 1: not sexy, that's not viral. So it's like the only

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Speaker 1: time we have a debate substance is when we have

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Speaker 1: we sort of create straw men about the other side. Right,

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Speaker 1: each side creates an eighty twenty straw man that doesn't

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Speaker 1: really exist in the real electorate. The real electorate is divided,

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Speaker 1: you know, is actually more in general agreement, but divided

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Speaker 1: on the implementation of those solutions. There's general agreement that

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Speaker 1: immigration is a net positive in this country. There's general

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Speaker 1: agreement that there should be reasonable pathways to citizenship, but

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Speaker 1: some of the details we genuinely disagree on. But we

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Speaker 1: don't have those debates, So that to me is the

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Speaker 1: risk here. But make no mistake we are seeing. And

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Speaker 1: I think the fact is, I think you're going to

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Speaker 1: have I don't think you're Look, do I think one

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Speaker 1: or two Democrats are going to try to be the

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Speaker 1: issue candidates? I do that's going to happen in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Someone always tries to play that role. Bruce Babbott was

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Speaker 1: that guy in ninety two, Elizabeth Warren was that person

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. You know, there's always a version of

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Speaker 1: that candidate. They don't always do as well as they

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Speaker 1: might in political science classes on that front. But I

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Speaker 1: think you're going to see. You know, am I skeptical

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Speaker 1: that Krockt can win that senen see? I am, But

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Speaker 1: I'm not skeptical that she can win the primary if

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Speaker 1: she shows, you know, especially because she's positioning herself as

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Speaker 1: I'm the one that's taken the fight to him and

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Speaker 1: James Tallerico is more of the hey, let can't we

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Speaker 1: all a little bit of the can't we all just

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Speaker 1: get along? So we're going to have an interesting fight

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Speaker 1: where two people who I think both would describe themselves

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Speaker 1: as progressive, but you're going to have a divide a

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Speaker 1: fight versus unite And what's the attitude of the Democratic

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Speaker 1: Party in going to be in the spring of twenty six.

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Speaker 1: It's possible by the spring of twenty eight, when we're

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Speaker 1: having the presidential primary fight that Democrats are looking for

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Speaker 1: a uniter by then, because maybe they've won both Houses

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Speaker 1: of Congress in the twenty six midterms. But until they

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Speaker 1: have some power, I think it's pretty clear that the

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Speaker 1: fighting that the litmus test for a Democratic candidate for office,

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Speaker 1: at least right now, appears to be are you willing

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Speaker 1: to have a fight with the Trump administration? Have you

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Speaker 1: picked a fight with the Trump administration? Or will the

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Speaker 1: Trump administration pick a fight with you that will be

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Speaker 1: seen as an asset not a liability. One more nugget.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure some of you caught Nancy Mace's abed in

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Speaker 1: the New York Times. I found it hilarious because it's

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Speaker 1: sort of a I can't tell you how often each

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Speaker 1: there are members of each party that really believe this

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Speaker 1: about the other party. Here's what she writes, Here's a

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Speaker 1: hard truth Republicans don't want to hear. Nancy Pelosi was

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Speaker 1: a more effective House speaker than any Republican the century.

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Speaker 1: I agree with her on essentially nothing but she understood

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Speaker 1: something we don't. No majority is permanent. When Democrats hold

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Speaker 1: the majority, they ran through the most progressive policies they can.

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Speaker 1: They delivered for the colders and elected them while they

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Speaker 1: are in power. Let me stop her right there. So

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Speaker 1: I promise you if you survey House Democrats who have

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Speaker 1: been in Congress as long as Nancy Mays, if not longer,

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Speaker 1: many of them would say the following. When Republicans hold

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Speaker 1: the majority, they ran through the most conservative policies they can.

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Speaker 1: They deliver for their coalition that elected them while they

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Speaker 1: are in power. But Democrats don't ever do it. Ask

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Speaker 1: a progressive if they think Democrats know how to use power,

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Speaker 1: they will tell you that Republicans are better at using power.

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Speaker 1: And here's Nancy May saying, No, Republicans suck at using power.

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Speaker 1: It's the Democrats that know to use power. It's astonishing

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Speaker 1: that we all live in the same country, right like

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Speaker 1: that we are seeing this. The bottom line is is

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Speaker 1: that you you know, if you look at at Democrats,

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Speaker 1: they ended up you know, they were sort of they

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Speaker 1: took a haircut, right, Joe Mansion made Joe Biden take

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Speaker 1: a haircut. Right. They didn't get to jam everything through.

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Speaker 1: Barack Obama's down on trying to do cap and trade

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Speaker 1: after he did Obamacare. It's actually Trump and the Republicans

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Speaker 1: that seem to at least keep pushing the out. They're

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Speaker 1: willing to take a bad vote to fulfill a promise

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Speaker 1: in a way that Democrats aren't always willing to do.

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Speaker 1: And I think part of that is this version of

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Speaker 1: the Republican Party won because they effectively made the argument

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Speaker 1: that the previous leadership regime of the Republican Party, sort

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Speaker 1: of the Bush Romney era, didn't fight hard enough, didn't

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Speaker 1: try to push conservative principles compromise, and always threw the

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Speaker 1: right under the bus. But I just found the op

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Speaker 1: ed amusing to me because that phrase when she when

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Speaker 1: she claimed when Democrats hold the majority, they ran through

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Speaker 1: the most progressive policies they can. Literally half the Democratic

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Speaker 1: Caucus believes when Republicans hold the majority, they ran through

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Speaker 1: the most conservative policies that they can. This is the

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Speaker 1: world we live in right where it's a lot easier

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Speaker 1: to portray yourself or your party as a victim of

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Speaker 1: some sort rather than acknowledging the actual reality of the

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Speaker 1: actual situations that we're in. There's a reason results matter

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Speaker 1: more than promises, just like there's a reason Morgan and

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Speaker 1: Morgan is America's largest injury law firm. For the last

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Speaker 1: thirty five years, they've recovered twenty five billion dollars for

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Speaker 1: get to a little last Chuck, then I'll get to

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Speaker 1: my top five list. Ask Chuck. First question comes from

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Speaker 1: Tyler and he asks, with all the ice raids and

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Speaker 1: that economy for working class, do you think Trump support

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Speaker 1: with Latinos will start to go down drastically? If yes,

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Speaker 1: do you think states like Florida and Texas could be

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Speaker 1: in play for Democrats in twenty twenty eight. Well, first, Tyler,

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Speaker 1: the numbers have already softened a great deal. And I

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Speaker 1: have to tell you one of the weirdest things that

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Speaker 1: took place in twenty twenty four in the post election

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Speaker 1: analysis was assuming that every voter that voted for Trump

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Speaker 1: is suddenly a Trump voter, meaning like they're suddenly part

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Speaker 1: of talked about as a vag voter. And so there

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Speaker 1: was this, hey, look, you know to me, you know,

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Speaker 1: we used to have a rule in and I think

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Speaker 1: they still do at the NBC News poll. But the

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Speaker 1: rule was when you saw a trend in a demographic,

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Speaker 1: don't report on a trend that you'd never seen before,

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Speaker 1: you know, a dramatic spike or drop, you know, among

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Speaker 1: the specific demographic group could be men, could be women,

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Speaker 1: could be Latinos, could be African Americans. Cutter, don't report

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Speaker 1: it until we see it. Two poles in a row. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think that applies to elections, which is now there

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Speaker 1: had been some softening among Latino support for Democrats for

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Speaker 1: the last couple of cycles. Then we had the dramatic

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Speaker 1: swing in twenty twenty four, led by what we saw

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Speaker 1: in South Texas. But that was a dramatic swing. And

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Speaker 1: it's arguably when you see a swing like that, you

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Speaker 1: wait one more cycle before you declare that voting group

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Speaker 1: a part of a semi at least Nope, no members

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Speaker 1: per of any coalition, but a you know, fairly consistent

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Speaker 1: member of said coalition. Well, we've only had one election

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Speaker 1: with Latino's decidedly leaning Republican. But I just simply think

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Speaker 1: that Latino working class voters are swing voters. They're no

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Speaker 1: different than white working class swing voters and black working

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Speaker 1: class swung voters. And we saw all working class voters, black, brown,

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Speaker 1: or why all lean Trump and in some cases swung

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Speaker 1: Trump very hard. And all of them have already swung back.

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Speaker 1: And if either some of them are already voting Democratic.

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Speaker 1: On the generic, some are simply expressing disapproval of Trump

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Speaker 1: and are sitting and undecided. Others are sitting in independent.

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Speaker 1: So we've already seen the erosion. It's pretty it's pretty

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Speaker 1: dramatic if you compare it to his success of twenty four.

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Speaker 1: I don't find it very dramatic. I kind of see

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Speaker 1: it as expected. But it was treated his twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four success was treated as if it was permanent. And

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Speaker 1: you know, one of the things I remember, not every member,

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Speaker 1: not everybody who votes for president, does so enthusiastically. Right,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that do this. Oh A,

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Speaker 1: by voting for right, you're holding your nose and you're going,

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Speaker 1: all right, I guess I'm gonna go here. And it's

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Speaker 1: usually more because you can't bring yourself to vote for

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Speaker 1: the other person. It's less about it is it is,

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Speaker 1: you know, the the Maybe it's the devil, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe it's the least of the two worst options. Whatever.

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Speaker 1: What did south Park one year? I think did an

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Speaker 1: it was. It was like a tird sandwich and a

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Speaker 1: shit sandwich or something like that. Pardon my French. That's

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Speaker 1: kind of the same thing. I kind of they had it.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm getting it. I apologize for mangling, and

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Speaker 1: as a proud member of gen X, I should never

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Speaker 1: get any South Park references wrong. So my apologies for there.

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Speaker 1: But it was it was one of their better episodes,

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Speaker 1: and it was like, oh, it was a giant douche

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Speaker 1: and a tird sandwich. That's what it was. It was

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Speaker 1: a giant a tird sandwich. But what I love is

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Speaker 1: at the end is like, you don't understand sometimes that's

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Speaker 1: your choice, but you've got to make a choice because

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Speaker 1: in America sometimes your only choice is a giant douche

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Speaker 1: and you got to decide which one's going to do

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Speaker 1: the least amount of damage. So I think we now

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Speaker 1: you're asking which states. I think it's more likely to

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Speaker 1: have an impact in Texas than Florida. Florida's the Florida

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Speaker 1: Latino voter is slightly different. In Central Florida, there's there's

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Speaker 1: a South Texas Latino voter. But in South Florida it's

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Speaker 1: a different it's a different Hispanic voter. A lot of

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Speaker 1: Cuban Americans Venezuela and a lot of Central and South

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Speaker 1: Americans who are there who came to this country sort

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Speaker 1: of escaping communism in the case of the Cubans, or

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Speaker 1: escaping authoritarianism in the case of the Venezuelans and the Nicaraguans,

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Speaker 1: et cetera. So it's now if he botches this Venezuela

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Speaker 1: build up and lets down a whole, you know, there's

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Speaker 1: a scenario where he decides not decides to cut a

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Speaker 1: deal with Maduro that maybe popular, maybe the thing that

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Speaker 1: is the right thing to do for the Mega movement,

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Speaker 1: but actually will alienate Cubans and Venezuelan's and South Florida,

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Speaker 1: and that could really scramble Florida politics. But I'm not

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Speaker 1: quite ready to say that that that shift's going to

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Speaker 1: happen in Florida. I think it has a bigger impact

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Speaker 1: in Texas and a bigger impact in Arizona also, you know,

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Speaker 1: with a and even in basically everywhere except South Florida.

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Speaker 1: That's probably the way to put it. Next question comes

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Speaker 1: from Matt and Chesterfield, Virginia. Matt writes, Hey, check longtime

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Speaker 1: fan of both you and Krystaliza. Your weekly conversations and

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Speaker 1: election live shows, They've been a breath of fresh air.

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Speaker 1: As a JMU grad, Hey, all right, let's go Dukes.

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Speaker 1: I'm on cloud nine about crashing the playoffs. It's how

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Speaker 1: you grow the sport, even if it won't impact the champion.

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Speaker 1: Nd haad a case, But it's not Jamu's fault that

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Speaker 1: the ACC messed up. It's tiebreaker. You got that right. Well,

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Speaker 1: you and Chris have a bet on that game. Far

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Speaker 1: look ahead feels like the next open VA Senate races

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Speaker 1: prime to be Spamberger versus Youngkin. Ooh, that's I've heard

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Speaker 1: that before. I think Youngkin runs for president before he

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Speaker 1: runs for Senate next. I'm not saying you won't eventually

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Speaker 1: wants to take twenty twenty eight for a test ride

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Speaker 1: my guess would be not till not till twenty thirty

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Speaker 1: he goes. Go Dukes and Reds. How about that? Baseball

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Speaker 1: economics are bad, But like my Duke's was happy to

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Speaker 1: be part of the party this year. Matt from Chestfield. Actually,

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Speaker 1: Silis and I are going to have a bet because

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Speaker 1: is if you know the Modello ads that talks about

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Speaker 1: Well that's Elizabeth Texas A and M. So we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have a little Miami v. Texas A and M bet

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Speaker 1: and then we're probably going to tailgate together in College station.

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Speaker 1: We'll see if the Gighams and the Todds can get along.

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Speaker 1: But in all seriousness, I'm looking forward to that. But

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Speaker 1: to go back to your Senate race, far look ahead

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Speaker 1: Spamberger versus Youngin. Like I said, both of them could

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Speaker 1: be on it. Both of them could be on the

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Speaker 1: ballot in twenty eight for a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: for the Republican nomination. Just have something to think about,

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Speaker 1: all right. Next question comes from George and the Twin Cities. Hey, Chuck,

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Speaker 1: thanks for the great programming lately. The Iowacentic candidate MS

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Speaker 1: Esker and others have been terrific. As someone who grew

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Speaker 1: up on a farm in East Central I would love

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Speaker 1: to hear debate on reforms like electing the Attorney General independently,

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Speaker 1: requiring timely congressional votes on confirmations and emergencies, and clarifying

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Speaker 1: changes could up restore balance and accountability across the branches.

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Speaker 1: Thoughts I like them. On a lighter note, glad to

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Speaker 1: bit much. George and the Twin Cities, well, look, my

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Speaker 1: about that, just to give people a sneak preview that, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm in playoff Heaven, So I'm going to have a

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Speaker 1: little bit too much football over the next couple of programs.

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to spare those that roll their eyes

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Speaker 1: about it and put it at the end so that

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Speaker 1: But I'd like to think I've turned some of you

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Speaker 1: me tick through your reforms very quick. So obviously we

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Speaker 1: don't elect that attorney it's interesting, would you like to

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Speaker 1: see us an elect I think you're asking we should

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Speaker 1: elect the attorney general independently. I've you know, you saw that,

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Speaker 1: they could designate on their own and just say, hey,

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Speaker 1: This is I think, and this has been sort of

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Speaker 1: give the executive branch defference. But you know, if you

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Speaker 1: trying to get Congress to do its job. And on

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Speaker 1: you got a lot of members of Congress that want

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Speaker 1: the good stuff, but keep their hands clean if things

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Speaker 1: basically asking, can't we just have Congress to it's job.

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00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 1: The answer is yes. Now on presidential immunity, I disagree

853
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: that the Founders were silent. I think what the Founders

854
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,919
Speaker 1: really believed in was a robust legislative branch that would

855
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: have no problem holding the executive to account via the

856
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,479
Speaker 1: impeachment process. Right, that is why they wrote it into

857
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: the Constitution. They saw it as an important check, you know,

858
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: one of the things you have to you know that

859
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: I've had pounded in my head by Founder scholars, and

860
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: I think I want to pound in everybody ahead here.

861
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 1: If they didn't write, if they wrote it, if they

862
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: wrote a specific in the Constitution, they did it for

863
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: a reason, and if they didn't. So take the issue

864
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: of super majorities. I'm a big fan of supermajorities for

865
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: judicial picks, but it's notable. And as those that have

866
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: pushed back on me through the lens of sort of

867
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: originalists or sort of what what Founders intent, I don't

868
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: like originalism. I like sort of founders intent, which I

869
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: think sort of is a way to is a way

870
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 1: to both sort of honor the original intent and at

871
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: the same time modernize it. Right, when the Founders thought

872
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: supermajorities were necessary. They wrote that into the Constitution. So

873
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: the fact that they didn't in certain places means they

874
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: know they were you know, they thought fifty There's a

875
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 1: reason they thought fifty plus one could work. I still,

876
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 1: like I said, I still think when it comes to judiciary,

877
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 1: if you if you want an impartial judiciary, then you

878
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: have to raise the limits. You have to raise the

879
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: vote threshold to sixty, sixty six or seventy five. You know,

880
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: you know, essentially sixty votes do thirds or three quarter. Now,

881
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,720
Speaker 1: some argue that that would just there would be gridlock

882
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: all the time. I disagree. I think you'd get a

883
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: different type of nominee. I just I do. For the

884
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: most part, you get those, You get those nominees. So,

885
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: but ultimately, what I find interesting about your email is

886
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 1: what you're really asking is, hey, converse, can you make

887
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: the legislative branch great again? And it's really what all

888
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,720
Speaker 1: of us are asking. Right, they have the authority on tariffs.

889
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: They just need to to remind the executive branch on

890
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 1: that they have the authority to rescind these emergencies. They

891
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:50,280
Speaker 1: have the authority to re sind this nebulous, ambiguous aum

892
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: F which allows for the use of military force to

893
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:58,919
Speaker 1: go after designated terrorists, whoever the President and the State

894
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 1: Department define as terrorists, and they've invented this narco terrorist category,

895
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: which is really not an accepted category and not quite Again,

896
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 1: I go back to the only, the only directly narco

897
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: terrorists that by by the definition that I think of

898
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: terrorism as was was among the Taliban in Afghanistan who

899
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: were using the poppies and heroin essentially to fund to

900
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 1: fund their extremism. That's not what's happening here in Venezuela.

901
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: But that's to me, that's the question I really took away,

902
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: which goddamn Congress, do your fing job all right, Sorry, George,

903
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: didn't mean to put add those flourishes in your voice.

904
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: Last question before I get to my top five list

905
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: is Matthew.

906
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 2: M He said, Hey, I'm concerned about Senator Morenos Bernie

907
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 2: marinos proposed Exclusive Citizenship Act and what it says about

908
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 2: Magas America.

909
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 1: First mentality is a dual citizen of Luxembourg in the

910
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 1: US Army veteran. I find the implication implication that dual

911
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: citizens are less American to be offensive than historically misguided,

912
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 1: especially given how many Americans, including the first Lady whold

913
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: dual citizenship, do you think this bill has any legal

914
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: traction or political upside, particularly in diverse states like Florida

915
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: and Texas. Thanks for very great work. So you know,

916
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 1: we've always had this weird relationship with dul says, we don't.

917
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: We've never I don't think the United States ever recognized

918
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: dual citizens. Other countries are the ones that allow somebody

919
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: to be a citizen of of their country and as

920
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: citizen in the United States. So and I do think

921
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 1: it would I don't think that I don't think that

922
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: that would pass at all. I mean, because of all

923
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: the examples you cite, there's quite a few members in

924
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: the I think what is it isn't it isn't the

925
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 1: current the current head of the Center for Medicare and

926
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: Medicaid Services right at CMS, doctor Oz, I believe he's

927
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,240
Speaker 1: a dual citizen of Turkey and of the United States.

928
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: So the point is is that there's quite a few

929
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: people in power that have that. I don't think that's

930
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: I really don't think that's going anywhere. I understand why

931
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 1: why it offends you. I get it, but it is

932
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: not like you know it is not uncommon, especially ironically,

933
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: especially among some of the wealthier allies of the president.

934
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 1: Many of them have a second citizenship somewhere for tax

935
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: purposes and all sorts of things. So I doubt it,

936
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: But you know, I don't want to rule anything out

937
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: that suddenly gets traction. What does the how do the

938
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 1: how does the court? I'm pretty convinced they're not going

939
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 1: to somehow get, you know, grant Donald Trump the authority

940
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 1: to sort of negate birthright citizenship. It's in the constitution.

941
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: But if you told me they did a stricter definition

942
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: of what qualified as birthright citizenship, I don't want to

943
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:15,760
Speaker 1: rule anything out. I don't think they will, but think

944
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 1: maybe you know, it feels like I don't think anything's

945
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: a given anymore, And if something like that gets redefined,

946
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948
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949
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950
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Speaker 1: My mother, single mother, now widow, myself sixteen trying to

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952
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953
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954
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955
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00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: to my top five list, top five, top topest top.

979
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: My top five list is going to be five bowl

980
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: games that are not playoff games. The top five bowl

981
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: games that if we played them as the first in

982
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: the first two weeks of August next year, would be

983
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 1: some of the most would be some of the great

984
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,479
Speaker 1: games that the entire college football season could give us.

985
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: Because a I have a proposal that I know I'm

986
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: in the minority on with some of my college football

987
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: fanatic fellow fanatic friends. I've I've pitched this for a while.

988
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 1: Some of you have heard me on my hobby horse before.

989
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: But I think we're at a moment where I think

990
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 1: there's going to be there's going to be some openness

991
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: to doing something different with the non playoff connected college

992
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: bowl games. And that is, you know, with the opt outs,

993
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: with the transfer portal, with coaches taking other jobs, the

994
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: number of teams that have opted out of these of

995
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: these bowl contracts that the Big twelve, the ACEC. In fact,

996
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: what is it, two teams opted out in the Big

997
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: twelve and they were fined because you know the money

998
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: that the bowl money is pooled, right usually you know,

999
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: the team that earns the bull band gets to keep

1000
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: you know, a big chunk of that money. But like

1001
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: it's like half goes to the school and half goes

1002
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: to the conference. So suddenly you know, this is denying

1003
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: everybody money when you choose not to go to a

1004
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: bowl game. Notre Dame is not in a conference, although

1005
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: they selectively want to be a member of the ACC,

1006
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: when when when it's convenient, they suddenly felt as if

1007
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: the ACC were burning a bridge with them when they

1008
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: ACC promoted their football member over their football member. I

1009
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: don't know what Notre Dame expected there. When you humiliate

1010
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: the ACC by refusing by sort of treating the ACC

1011
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 1: as a minor league scheduling assistant, which is what you've

1012
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: done for all your other sports, don't be shocked when

1013
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: the ACC isn't there to have your back in football.

1014
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: You want the ACC to have your back in football,

1015
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 1: join full time rather than just using the ACC as

1016
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: a minor league scheduling system. But the point is, I

1017
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 1: think by them pulling out of a bowl in some

1018
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 1: ways they could this could It feels like this is

1019
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: the year the death knell of the non playoff bowles.

1020
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to see these balls go away. I

1021
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 1: love the theory of these matchups. What I'd like is

1022
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: these matchups to mean something. Well, you know, one hope

1023
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: I had a few years ago is at the advent

1024
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 1: of nil that you'd actually see bonus money being paid

1025
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 1: to players to play in a bold game. Hey, if

1026
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 1: you play, here's an extra two hundred three thousand dollars.

1027
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: There's an extra fifty thousand dollars whatever, Right, if you

1028
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 1: agree to play in this meaningless bowl game, that that

1029
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 1: maybe would improve things like I don't know this, but

1030
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: I'm guessing Cam Wore got compensated for playing the first

1031
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: half of the Pop Darts bawl that you know, he

1032
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 1: got extra money somehow, which is why I only played

1033
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: one half. Maybe it was part of the deal. I

1034
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 1: don't know anything, but it certainly that's what it smells like.

1035
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: Travis Hunter did similar things. I mean, and by the way,

1036
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:30,439
Speaker 1: it's an exhibition game. I mean, you know, the entire

1037
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 1: World of tennis operates on appearance fees, right, and in

1038
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 1: some ways it's a quote unquote appearance fee. But I

1039
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 1: don't think we want that. I think we want real

1040
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 1: competitive games. Here's what I'd like to see is you

1041
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: take all these incredible bowl matchups that we have and

1042
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 1: instead of having meaningless games that we that we yes,

1043
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 1: it's nice to have on a Tuesday afternoon in the

1044
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: week between Christmas and the years, because it's nice to

1045
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 1: have something on the air. Don't get me wrong, I

1046
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 1: will miss that one and it's gone. Maybe we can

1047
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 1: move the FCF playoffs to the middle of the week

1048
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:07,919
Speaker 1: and we can all start getting into South Dakota State.

1049
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: But I digress. I'd like to see essentially use the

1050
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 1: ball matchups that you have, but you'll play the following year. Now.

1051
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 1: I know I've pitched this around to various folks, and

1052
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 1: the pushback I've gotten is, well, what about the reward

1053
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 1: for a good season? Well, in this case, the playoff

1054
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: is the reward, and if you don't make the playoff,

1055
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like you had a good season. Well,

1056
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: the players that earn the good season won't be there

1057
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: to play. Well, a lot of them opt out anyway.

1058
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 1: So in the hot light of that, here are the

1059
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: top five incredible games that would start in my By

1060
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: the way, if you earn a bull bid, then you

1061
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 1: get an extra thirteenth game and you get thirteen games

1062
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 1: to deliver on your resume for the playoff committee rather

1063
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: than twelve, which having an extra win could be a

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01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: big deal. Having an extra loss could be diluted. So

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Speaker 1: I just think that there's and again, it'd be great

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01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: if people showed up in Frisco, Texas in August. By

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01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 1: the way, school hasn't started in a lot of the country.

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01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 1: You could still have family trips, you could have more

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01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 1: places hosting outdoor bowl games across the country rather just

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01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 1: in the South or the Sunbelt. So, without further to doo,

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Speaker 1: my top five games that we'd all be looking forward

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01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 1: to in week zeros in the first. And by the way,

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01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 1: college football would own the month of August. It would

1074
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 1: be theirs right now, they own Labor Day weekend. That's good,

1075
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:44,439
Speaker 1: own the entire month of August. Nobody will care about

1076
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 1: NFL preseason. You guys will step on all of that.

1077
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 1: Baseball's in a weird lull in that moment in time

1078
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 1: because of you know, before the Pennant Race heats up

1079
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Speaker 1: in September. I think it would be good for the sport.

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01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:05,919
Speaker 1: And look at these matchups. Okay, Number one, how would

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01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 1: you like for an Opening week Bowl game in the

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01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 1: cheese at Citrus Bowl between the Texas Longhorns and the

1083
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 1: Michigan Wolverines Arch Manning and Bryce Underwood. Do we really

1084
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 1: think we're going to get the best versions of Arch

1085
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 1: Manning and Bryce Underwood in this matchup when they play?

1086
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: How many of the teams or are we going to

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01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 1: have people that really care about winning this game come

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01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 1: August of next year? So that's number one? What a game?

1089
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 1: What a terrific game? All right? Number two on my

1090
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 1: list to me, that would be the among the most watchable.

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01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 1: This is a fun one and it's because it's my

1092
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 1: way of it's what I call the Smart Bowl. It's

1093
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 1: what is going to be the pop Tarts Bowl this year,

1094
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,439
Speaker 1: which should be BYU and Notre Dame, which, by the way,

1095
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 1: what an amazing Week one game that would be or

1096
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 1: Week zero game b YU and Notre Dame in the

1097
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 1: pop Tarts Preseason Bowl. Right, it's a game that counts.

1098
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 1: You get all the pop Tart bs that you can

1099
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 1: get your that your heart desires, and you'd get this

1100
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: great matchup of the Mormons and the Catholics. Okay, we

1101
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 1: could call it, you know, the super Holy War, right?

1102
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: I know Utah and BYU already has the Holy War. Sorry, Lauren,

1103
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to steal the great rivalry name there,

1104
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 1: but you could have called it the Crusades. I don't

1105
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 1: know if I've offended somebody. I wasn't intending to offend

1106
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 1: on that. But what a much better game going into

1107
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:37,439
Speaker 1: the season. Now, let me give you my number three.

1108
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 1: How about a little Penn State, Clemson and Yankee Stadium.

1109
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 1: How cool would that be in August rather than some

1110
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,959
Speaker 1: frigid game that nobody cares about with the interim coach

1111
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 1: at Penn State. Right, But instead it's the debut of

1112
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 1: Matt Campbell's Penn State Nitney Lyons playing Dabo Sweeney on

1113
01:04:56,720 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 1: the hot seat and Clemson that's really into interesting Unfortunately

1114
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 1: not an interesting bowl game. Let's see. So there's three

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01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 1: number four on my list at this point, I'm going

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01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 1: to go with Arizona State and Duke. You'd have the

1117
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 1: party crashers from two years ago versus the near party crashers, right,

1118
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 1: Arizona State wins, the Big twelve gets into the tournament,

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01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 1: Duke wins. The ACC tried to talk its way into

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01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 1: the tournament, but this would be an El Paso that

1121
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 1: one of my favorite bowl nicknames that Tony the Tiger

1122
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: Sun Bowl. Give me some Arizona State and Duke then

1123
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 1: versus whatever middling game that no one's going to care

1124
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 1: about this year other than the fine folks that go

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01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 1: go to the game in El Paso. And then fifth

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01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 1: on my list, number five on my list is simply

1127
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 1: because I think it would become a super popular bowl

1128
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 1: game in the preseason and a much more desirable bowl

1129
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 1: to make, and that is the shared in Hawaii Bowl

1130
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 1: between Cal and Hawaii. It's probably going to be the

1131
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 1: one of the more watchable bowl games in this exhibition

1132
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 1: season that we're about to embark on. But imagine this

1133
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 1: is week zero, I'd be a little nervous with Cal

1134
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 1: as a member of the ACC, Tommy Changs putting together

1135
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 1: bringing trying to make Hawaii football great again. I still

1136
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 1: I have a memory of their incredible run that got

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Speaker 1: into the Sugar Bowl one year where they were just

1138
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 1: out playing out of their minds and such an exciting

1139
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 1: team to play. There was nothing like that run and

1140
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 1: gun team of Hawaii when your midnight nothing else is

1141
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 1: on and you're watching them win a game sixty five

1142
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 1: sixty four. Right. The point is all five of those

1143
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 1: Bowl games I told you nobody's going to give a

1144
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: darn about over the next four weeks. Everybody would be

1145
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 1: glued to any of those games if they were being

1146
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 1: played in the first two weeks of August week thirteen. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: Hey man, I'm just here to solve problems. That's what

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Speaker 1: the Chuck Podcast is about. We're just trying to figure

1149
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 1: out how can we solve problems? So, how do we

1150
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 1: solve polarization? How do we solve the bold mess? All

1151
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 1: right with that, I'll see you in twenty four hours.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, and until we upload again.