WEBVTT - #thisleague UNCUT: Bradley Beal Blockbuster and our NBA Draft preview

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to this League Uncut. Can you rule of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four hour NBA news.

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<v Speaker 2>This's you'l.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Hands. It's so time, work's time, It's so time.

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<v Speaker 1>This League Uncut is underway and on fire. This should

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<v Speaker 1>be a good one.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey everyone, great to have you with us for another

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<v Speaker 3>edition of this League Uncut.

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<v Speaker 2>A good one, we hope.

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<v Speaker 3>So because it's a big week, a huge week, a

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<v Speaker 3>crazy time in the NBA that is already off to

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<v Speaker 3>a wild and chaotic start. It's Draft week Monday night

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<v Speaker 3>as we record this Tuesday morning release for this edition

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<v Speaker 3>of this League Uncut, and we've already had a blockbuster

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<v Speaker 3>trade Sunday, the Suns and the Wizards come to turn

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<v Speaker 3>on a Bradley Beal deal. Bradley Beal going to the

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<v Speaker 3>Suns for nothing more than Chris Paul's expiring contract, Landry Shammitt,

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<v Speaker 3>a slew of second round picks, maybe another small contract

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<v Speaker 3>or two thrown into the deal. But this thing happened quick,

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<v Speaker 3>It kind of came out. It was the weekend when

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<v Speaker 3>we basically heard that the Wizards had zeroed in on

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<v Speaker 3>either Miami or Phoenix. And it certainly does appear that

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<v Speaker 3>Miami was not ready to move as quickly as the

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<v Speaker 3>Wizards would have liked, whereas.

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<v Speaker 2>The Suns were highly motivated.

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<v Speaker 3>To move quickly because Chris Paul's contract, the centerpiece of

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<v Speaker 3>this deal, of course, has the guarantee date on June

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<v Speaker 3>twenty eighth. The Suns had told Chris Paul, as our

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<v Speaker 3>own Chris Haynes reported as our own Chris Haynes first

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<v Speaker 3>reported the Suns was it two weeks ago had informed Paul,

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<v Speaker 3>left Paul and his representatives with the clear impression that

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<v Speaker 3>they were going to waive him if they couldn't trade him.

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<v Speaker 2>But they did find a trade. I mean, this is.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, for the Wizards, it's really the only deal

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<v Speaker 3>they could make. It's the only way to start their rebuild.

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<v Speaker 3>That no trade clause that they needlessly and inexplicably gave

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<v Speaker 3>Bradley Beal a year ago, it gave Bradley Beal and

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<v Speaker 3>Mark Bartelstein all the control. They were basically able to

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<v Speaker 3>pick their destination. But for the Wizards to start over

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<v Speaker 3>getting off Bill's long term money, they basically had to

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<v Speaker 3>take whatever trade they could to make it happen. So

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<v Speaker 3>they've taken a deal that doesn't look great. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't. I frankly don't love it for either team.

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<v Speaker 3>But you tell me, Chris Haynes, you've been covering this

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<v Speaker 3>one as closely as anyone. What was what was your

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<v Speaker 3>first reaction when you heard that Phoenix was the destination

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<v Speaker 3>for Bradley Beal.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought Miami would be in the driver's seat because

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<v Speaker 4>I felt even if brad wanted to go to Phoenix

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<v Speaker 4>first and foremost, I felt like, well, I thought the

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<v Speaker 4>Wizards would put up a fight because you can get

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<v Speaker 4>they can get more from Miami opposed to Phoenix. So

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<v Speaker 4>I thought it was going to be a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>more fighting in that regard from Bill's camp and the Wizards,

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<v Speaker 4>but there was not, which shows which tells you that

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<v Speaker 4>the Wizards were prepared with this new regime with Winger

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<v Speaker 4>as the head of basket operations over there, they were

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<v Speaker 4>prepared to go into a rebuild at any costs. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>they looked at it, and again, you know, they didn't

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<v Speaker 4>get much, but they got off of the salary, they

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<v Speaker 4>got off of that contract, and now they can kind

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<v Speaker 4>of start going into the direction of doing the reset

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<v Speaker 4>with new management. And for Phoenix, they're going all in.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean Stein, They're not going to have a pick

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<v Speaker 4>at all, like for a while, like they're going they're

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<v Speaker 4>still trying right now, they're still trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 4>how many second round picks are going to be included

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<v Speaker 4>in this deal. They don't have a first round pick,

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<v Speaker 4>so they're going to be without a pick for a while,

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<v Speaker 4>which means they put all of their chips in. They

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<v Speaker 4>are all in. They are sold on this. It has

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<v Speaker 4>to work. It has to work, So Frank Vogel, he

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<v Speaker 4>has a work cut out on I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 4>going to take much to build around that. That team.

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<v Speaker 4>I think players are going to come and play for

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<v Speaker 4>the minimum or some guys will take less money for

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<v Speaker 4>a year. I think I think it will. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>Phoenix is not a bad place to stay, not definitely

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<v Speaker 4>not a bad place to stay. So I think they'll

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<v Speaker 4>accomplish accomplish that. But what the pieces fit, that's the

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<v Speaker 4>big question. Will the pieces fit. Who's going to be

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<v Speaker 4>the primary ball handler on this team? Do they feel

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<v Speaker 4>they have it already or do they have to go

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<v Speaker 4>out there and find one. So there's a lot of holes,

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<v Speaker 4>but they they definitely got the biggest three, the biggest

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<v Speaker 4>three that this league has currently right now. So those

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<v Speaker 4>were my initial thoughts when the trade went down.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and look, we've talked already for weeks about what

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<v Speaker 3>the new CBA is going to do. There are some

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<v Speaker 3>there are a few of the tough restrictions come in

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<v Speaker 3>in year one and then after this coming season. Is

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<v Speaker 3>really when teams that are in second apron territory just

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<v Speaker 3>lose all flexibility to I mean, you just lose any

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<v Speaker 3>number of roster building measures. And that's a problem. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not just that the Suns are going to be lacking

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<v Speaker 3>depth after making this trade. I mean it's rebounding its defense.

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<v Speaker 3>It's coping with Jokic and Anthony Davis, which you have

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<v Speaker 3>to do if you want to get out of the West,

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<v Speaker 3>like the tools to change their team. Like basically, the

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<v Speaker 3>decision the Sun's made was, Okay, we're we've got a

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<v Speaker 3>crazy high payroll as it is.

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<v Speaker 2>We went all in on Kevin Durant.

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<v Speaker 3>Then the rules changed, so we're gonna go even farther

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<v Speaker 3>all in while we still can. And just the problem

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<v Speaker 3>with that strategy is if it doesn't work, if this

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<v Speaker 3>thing gets off to a rocky start after year one,

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<v Speaker 3>or even especially if it goes two years, it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be so hard for them to make changes. So

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<v Speaker 3>that's why around the league, so many people are expecting

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<v Speaker 3>that DeAndre Ayton has to get moved, if not immediately,

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<v Speaker 3>between now and the February trade deadline, because if the

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<v Speaker 3>Suns keep him, it's gonna be much harder to trade

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<v Speaker 3>him and get back pieces that work. They just to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to pull off a trade because of all

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<v Speaker 3>the restrictions forthcoming.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, what can they get for Ayton? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I just have I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess to me, I'm less worried about, Like I

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<v Speaker 3>kind of feel like between between Devin Booker and Bradley Beal,

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<v Speaker 3>they'll figure out the ball handling, but everything else man again,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, wings, defense, rebounding, I mean, there's so many

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<v Speaker 3>holes they still have to fill as good. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>even if you think that these three stars are going

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<v Speaker 3>to just snap together fantastically.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Phoenix initially try to include Ayton in the deal.

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<v Speaker 4>It was gonna be Ayton, and believe Sammon, the Wizards

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<v Speaker 4>didn't want that. The Wizards wanted Chris Paul's expiring contract

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<v Speaker 4>in that deal. So I mean, I honestly think, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>that's probably a little bit more flexibility for for for

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<v Speaker 4>defitting Sons, because I think there's a there is a

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<v Speaker 4>good chance that Aiden could be moved, could be moved

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<v Speaker 4>before the season starts. So that's definitely an option out

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<v Speaker 4>there where the Sons probably feel like they can get

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of pieces, a couple of quality pieces back

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<v Speaker 4>in return for DeAndre Aiden, which which will help with

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<v Speaker 4>their depth and help with the holes that you said,

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<v Speaker 4>wing perimeter guys, three D guys, those type of prospects.

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<v Speaker 4>So again, kudos to Matt Ishpia, James Jones. They went

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<v Speaker 4>all in. They went all in, and you know, we'll

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<v Speaker 4>see how it fares from here. But stein the process

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<v Speaker 4>of going all in, there's a little bit of co

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<v Speaker 4>troversy on how how and how they handled going all

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<v Speaker 4>in and how they handled sending out a player. That

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<v Speaker 4>player is Chris Paul. What did you think when you

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<v Speaker 4>saw Chris Paul's let me see, he went on Good

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<v Speaker 4>Morning America First he's doing his tour the name of

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<v Speaker 4>his book sixty one, so doing his book tour. Story

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<v Speaker 4>is in New York right now, Good Morning America First

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<v Speaker 4>City basically said he was surprised of the News and

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<v Speaker 4>he found out that he was traded via his son,

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<v Speaker 4>which I knew about. That son was at a basketball

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<v Speaker 4>camp at the time, and that's how he That's how

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<v Speaker 4>he found out, and then he went out on Then

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<v Speaker 4>he did the story with the did an interview with

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<v Speaker 4>The New York Times. Stein, Can you elaborate on that

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<v Speaker 4>one please.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So the New York Times, my former Employeyers and

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<v Speaker 3>my former teammates, Soapandeb did a great piece touching on

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<v Speaker 3>not just the book, but how everything went down with Phoenix.

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<v Speaker 3>And in that interview with Soapin Chris Paul twice referred

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<v Speaker 3>to Matt and Isaiah as the Sun's decision makers, and

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<v Speaker 3>Isaiah of course refers to Isaiah Thomas. You reported at

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<v Speaker 3>the time, just as Ishbia was going to be formally

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<v Speaker 3>introduced as the Son's new owner, about the influential voice

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<v Speaker 3>that Isaiah Thomas was going to get in the Sun's

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<v Speaker 3>revamped organization in the Ishbia era taking over the franchise

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<v Speaker 3>from Robert Sarver and Matt Ishbia had a press conference

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<v Speaker 3>and denied those reports pretty strenuously, and people around the

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<v Speaker 3>league have continued to whisper since that Isaiah does have

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<v Speaker 3>a very strong advisory voice at the least with Matt.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course we saw him sitting next to Ishba at

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<v Speaker 3>some playoff games. But Chris Paul really kind of put

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<v Speaker 3>the spotlight on it with the way he described it

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<v Speaker 3>to Soapan in this Times piece that that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he basically made it sound like Isaiah was co making

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<v Speaker 3>these decisions alongside Matt Ishbia. So something tells me that

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to be talking a lot about that as

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<v Speaker 3>we go forward here with the son.

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<v Speaker 4>Chris Paul kind of dropped, kind of dropped the bomb

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<v Speaker 4>there right there. Unexpected a little bomb there right there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>what was not expecting that during his book tour? Was

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<v Speaker 4>not expecting that at all. What I will say about

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<v Speaker 4>Chris Paul, and there's really I believe he has another day.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe tomorrow, which would be Tuesday to day that

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<v Speaker 4>this pot is dropping. He's doing another round of book tours,

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<v Speaker 4>a few more rounds of book tours. So I hope,

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<v Speaker 4>I hope whoever is interviewing him really go ahead ask

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<v Speaker 4>them some questions, ask them some really good questions. I know,

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<v Speaker 4>I know that an interview is about the about the book,

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<v Speaker 4>but you know this, Chris Paul is in the news.

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<v Speaker 4>You got to do your job, journalists, journalists, you gotta

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<v Speaker 4>do your job. Ask some questions, Ask some basketball questions.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, just there's some answers that need to be

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<v Speaker 4>be put out there, and I think Chris Paul has

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of those answers. So I please encourage y'all

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<v Speaker 4>to ask some questions, see what you can get. But

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I think right now you're looking at what

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<v Speaker 4>what is the future for Chris Paul. So I reported yesterday, Well,

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<v Speaker 4>it would have been Sunday that the Los Angeles Clippers

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<v Speaker 4>are trying to get in position two, get a reunion

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<v Speaker 4>going with Chris Paul. So the Clippers right now Marin

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<v Speaker 4>talk with the Wizards, and we don't know if this

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<v Speaker 4>is going to be expanded to a three team trade

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<v Speaker 4>or if this is or if it would be a

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<v Speaker 4>second trade that would get Chris Paul out of Washington.

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<v Speaker 4>Chris Paul would not be a member of the Washington

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<v Speaker 4>Wizards for long. I just don't know if it's going

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<v Speaker 4>to be a part of a three team trade or

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<v Speaker 4>except for the trade or wave or wave.

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<v Speaker 3>Naturally, it behooves the Clippers to try to swoop in

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<v Speaker 3>and complete a trade where they acquire Chris Paul without

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<v Speaker 3>letting him hit the market as an unrestricted free agent.

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<v Speaker 3>If again, the initial the initial word from the Suns

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<v Speaker 3>to the Chris Paul camp was we're going to waive

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<v Speaker 3>you if we can't trade you. They ended up finding

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<v Speaker 3>the trade to where the Suns don't have to make

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<v Speaker 3>that posit that to see.

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<v Speaker 2>But now the Wizards are in the same position.

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<v Speaker 3>They either have to trade Chris Paul between now and

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<v Speaker 3>June twenty eighth, or guarantee his salary for the rest

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<v Speaker 3>of the season knowing Chris Paul wouldn't want to play there,

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<v Speaker 3>or waive him, buy him out, release him, however you

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<v Speaker 3>want to term it.

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<v Speaker 2>So, can the Clippers come.

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<v Speaker 3>Up with a trade to where they acquire Chris Paul

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<v Speaker 3>or are we going to see what? Just you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I would be really interested to see, just out of curiosity,

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<v Speaker 3>Like if Chris actually can negotiate his release and becomes

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<v Speaker 3>a unrestricted free agent, what then happens? You know, is

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<v Speaker 3>it the Lakers? Does he Are the Clippers still an

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<v Speaker 3>option in that scenario? Is there some other team that

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<v Speaker 3>we don't know because Chris Paul is an unrestricted free agent?

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<v Speaker 3>Wouild certainly attract a good amount of interest if you

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<v Speaker 3>have to forecast it. If I forced you to register

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<v Speaker 3>your very educated guess, how do you think it turns out?

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<v Speaker 3>Can the Clippers pull this off by trade or do

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<v Speaker 3>you think he ends up hitting the open market and

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<v Speaker 3>giving the Lakers a.

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<v Speaker 4>Chance to I answered that start. I want to say

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<v Speaker 4>I was very surprised to learn go to State had

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<v Speaker 4>interest in Chris Paul.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. I left that, I left them out. You're right, good.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you brought that up, because that's a that

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<v Speaker 2>would be hard.

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<v Speaker 4>That is very hard to man. Yeah, that was that

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<v Speaker 4>was surprising. I was like Chris Paul, I was surprised.

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<v Speaker 4>So so but if if if I'm forced to pick,

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<v Speaker 4>I think the Clippers work out of trade and get

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<v Speaker 4>Chris Paul, and I think the trade would probably have

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<v Speaker 4>to involve Robert Covington deal in that might maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 4>even Marcus Morris, but I think Robert Coventon for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>And so that's that's the way I that's the way

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<v Speaker 4>I envision it planned out.

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<v Speaker 3>And so today I checked to see how what would

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<v Speaker 3>be the chances if the Clippers can pull this off

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<v Speaker 3>and they acquire Chris Paul from Washington via trade, either

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<v Speaker 3>as a separate trade or by becoming the third team

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<v Speaker 3>in this deal. Does that leave any room for Russell

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<v Speaker 3>Westbrook to re sign with the Clippers. The word I

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<v Speaker 3>got from a source close to the process today was

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<v Speaker 3>possibly so. By no means yes, but it was also

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<v Speaker 3>not a no. Do you think could the Clippers have

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<v Speaker 3>a team with both CP and Russ together?

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<v Speaker 4>I think they could. I wouldn't be too confident in

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<v Speaker 4>the I wouldn't be too confident in it working out.

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<v Speaker 4>I just think if you're going to have one of

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<v Speaker 4>those guys on the team, you have to allow them

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<v Speaker 4>to do what they do. I don't know that you

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<v Speaker 4>can have to two point guards. Point guards of that

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<v Speaker 4>point guards that hand the ball a lot, point guards

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<v Speaker 4>that are used to setting up the table. Chris Paul,

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<v Speaker 4>I think, plays better off the ball than Russ. I

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<v Speaker 4>just don't see. I don't see I don't see them

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<v Speaker 4>being able to even at times. I don't see them

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<v Speaker 4>being able to work well together in the back court.

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<v Speaker 4>So it'll be tough. But I think Russ played so

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<v Speaker 4>well for them. He was a big bright spot for

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<v Speaker 4>them towards the end when Kawhi Leonard and Paul George

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<v Speaker 4>went out. You know, he was a great locker room leader.

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<v Speaker 4>He really became the voice of that team the lot

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<v Speaker 4>of stages of that season, and so he does have

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<v Speaker 4>value within that within that ball club on the court

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<v Speaker 4>and what he provides in the locker room. But I

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<v Speaker 4>don't I personally, I wouldn't like it, Starn. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know what the Clippers are going to do. I really

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<v Speaker 4>don't know how they feel. I haven't really checked on

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<v Speaker 4>it out myself. You say possibly, I mean by them

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<v Speaker 4>just saying possibly, that lets you know they have some

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<v Speaker 4>some form of reservations about having a two on the team.

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<v Speaker 4>But again, some teams believe in that, you know, you

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<v Speaker 4>acquire as much depth as possible, work it out later

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<v Speaker 4>because you know, guys get injured, things happen throughout the

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<v Speaker 4>course of the season. So it's better to have talent

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<v Speaker 4>than not to have talent. So, you know, I guess

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<v Speaker 4>we'll just have to see.

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<v Speaker 3>So before we move on to the draft, let's circle

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<v Speaker 3>back to the Bradley Beal trade, just because there was

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<v Speaker 3>one angle to this that I think we started going

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<v Speaker 3>down that road and we got a little bit derailed.

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<v Speaker 2>And we should cover this.

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<v Speaker 3>So, as Chris put it, you know, Phoenix has gone

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<v Speaker 3>all in whatever it had left in terms terms of

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<v Speaker 3>trade assets to acquire Bradley Beal. They've surrendered it all.

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<v Speaker 3>Now the Sun's basically they cannot make. They cannot have

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<v Speaker 3>a more expensive trio than they have now with Durant

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<v Speaker 3>and Devin Booker and Beal and everything they've given up

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<v Speaker 3>to get Durant and now Beal in there. Miami did

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<v Speaker 3>not go all in with its Bradley Beal pitches, even

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<v Speaker 3>though Miami was thought to be right at the top

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of Bradley Beal's preferred destinations. And with that

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<v Speaker 3>no trade clause that he and Mark Bartlestein negotiated a

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<v Speaker 3>year ago, they had this uncommon control of the trade process.

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<v Speaker 3>The Washington was basically going to have to accept the

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<v Speaker 3>destination that Bradley Beal picked because of that no trade clause,

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<v Speaker 3>the only no trade clause, only full no trade clause

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<v Speaker 3>active in the league at this point, only the tenth

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<v Speaker 3>no trade clause that's ever been nego shed in the NBA,

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<v Speaker 3>because they're really hard to get in the NBA. But look, everybody,

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<v Speaker 3>I think by now understands the working assumption here. The

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<v Speaker 3>belief is that Miami didn't want to go all in

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<v Speaker 3>for Bradley Beale now because on the you know, basically

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<v Speaker 3>waiting out the possibility that Damian Lillard that this would

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<v Speaker 3>be the off season that Damian Lillard actually urges the

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<v Speaker 3>Portland Trailblazers to trade him, because if it gets to

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<v Speaker 3>that point, Miami would be at or near the top

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<v Speaker 3>of Dame's list with Brooklyn and potentially some other destinations.

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<v Speaker 2>But Miami would have an excellent.

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<v Speaker 3>Chance in the Dames sweepstakes. They would be one of

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<v Speaker 3>the betting favorites, no doubt. But I mean, Chris, aren't

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<v Speaker 3>the Heat taking a huge risk here? Because we still

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<v Speaker 3>you know again, we're recording this on Monday night, this

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<v Speaker 3>podcast is dropping Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 2>There is still not a sentilla.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh evidence or hints to point us in the direction

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<v Speaker 3>of thinking that Dame is close to pushing his way out.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll say this, for Miami to take this approach, they

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<v Speaker 4>must feel like they got some sense, some knowledge that

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<v Speaker 4>this could be the offseason that Dame request out, like

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<v Speaker 4>they believe they feel like this could be the year.

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<v Speaker 4>And the reason is Dame has made it clear that

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<v Speaker 4>he wants to compete for a championship. He wants to continue,

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<v Speaker 4>He wants a roster that can get him there. He

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<v Speaker 4>wants that now. He does not want to wait, He

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<v Speaker 4>does not want to go through a rebuild, doesn't want

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<v Speaker 4>to continue to play with younger guys to help them

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<v Speaker 4>grow and get to that point. He wants to win. Now.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why you know, I've been saying this for the

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<v Speaker 4>last couple of weeks. What Portland does with that pick,

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<v Speaker 4>number three pick Thursday's draft, that's going to be so important.

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<v Speaker 4>And we'll see if all indications are Portland is going

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<v Speaker 4>to keep that pick. As of right now, all indications

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<v Speaker 4>are leaning that way, and then Dame will have a

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<v Speaker 4>decision to make at that point. Does he feel comfortable, well,

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<v Speaker 4>you know that that pick being say Scoot Henderson, Does

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<v Speaker 4>he feel comfortable going into another season where you got

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<v Speaker 4>a rookie, rookie coming in, a rookie who's ultimately going

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<v Speaker 4>to be the next franchise point guard for that team

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<v Speaker 4>over the next possibly the next decade. How is he

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<v Speaker 4>going to feel about that? So these are all questions

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<v Speaker 4>that we won't have answers to until after the draft.

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<v Speaker 4>Or until after the Portland makes makes that pick. Portland

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<v Speaker 4>also has a twenty third pick as well. They can

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<v Speaker 4>try to use that twenty third pick and package it

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<v Speaker 4>with Anthony Simons to try to get some help. But

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<v Speaker 4>you know, these are things that we won't know until

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<v Speaker 4>Thursday or after Thursday. So I think that's why that's

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<v Speaker 4>why Miami feels like, you know, if they're going to

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<v Speaker 4>go all in, they want to go all in on

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<v Speaker 4>an all NBA point guard. They feel like that's a

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<v Speaker 4>dire need. That's more of a dire need for that team.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, I think that's why we saw them

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<v Speaker 4>kind of reverse course on Bradley Beal.

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<v Speaker 3>So how meaningful do you think it is that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Dame has been seen in the Blazers practice facility and

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<v Speaker 3>it looks like he's taking an interest in Portland's draft

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<v Speaker 3>night machinations.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that's kind of the curve ball here.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay. I would say that he's there working out himself,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's it. That's what I would say. It happens

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<v Speaker 4>to work out.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we know we know who the there's only one

0:23:58.160 --> 0:23:59.879
<v Speaker 3>Dame ologist on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>If if if.

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<v Speaker 3>We're looking for a dirkologist. Then I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>then it's my turn to speak. But when it comes

0:24:06.920 --> 0:24:10.800
<v Speaker 3>to when it comes to Dame ology, we defer to Haines.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm going with what you read, just my read?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, well your read is very well.

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<v Speaker 4>Say this. My reads often get mistaken for being something

0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:27.639
<v Speaker 4>that Dame told me. That happens a lot if I

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<v Speaker 4>say something my read, my sense what I think a

0:24:32.080 --> 0:24:34.960
<v Speaker 4>lot of people think Dame is telling me this, This

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<v Speaker 4>is my read. I'm telling you. You know, sometimes I talked to.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like recently, you were you were either on the

0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:43.720
<v Speaker 3>dam Show or Colin Coward Show, and you were asked,

0:24:43.880 --> 0:24:48.040
<v Speaker 3>you were asked about Boston. You gave your opinion on

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<v Speaker 3>what you would project Dame to do based.

0:24:52.200 --> 0:24:53.479
<v Speaker 2>On covering his whole career.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not like he told you, Chris, will you please,

0:24:56.680 --> 0:24:58.640
<v Speaker 3>will you please register my display.

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<v Speaker 4>We've had convers like I know some you know, some

0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:04.399
<v Speaker 4>of the teams that he would be interested in, Like

0:25:04.440 --> 0:25:06.960
<v Speaker 4>I've known it just for years just being around them,

0:25:07.000 --> 0:25:09.080
<v Speaker 4>so I know how I already know how it feels

0:25:09.080 --> 0:25:13.680
<v Speaker 4>about certain teams or certain cities. And so when DP

0:25:13.840 --> 0:25:17.040
<v Speaker 4>asked me that question, I was able to just be like, nah,

0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:21.199
<v Speaker 4>it's not happening. No, not Boston, not that. I just

0:25:21.240 --> 0:25:23.560
<v Speaker 4>spoke with Dame right now and he told me to

0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:25.520
<v Speaker 4>say that that's just based off of the history and

0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:27.480
<v Speaker 4>the relationship that I have with him, I was able

0:25:27.520 --> 0:25:30.120
<v Speaker 4>to say, nah, I don't see that. I don't see

0:25:30.160 --> 0:25:33.000
<v Speaker 4>that happening. That's it. That's it. So this right here

0:25:33.080 --> 0:25:35.320
<v Speaker 4>is just to read. I know he goes to the PF,

0:25:35.480 --> 0:25:39.200
<v Speaker 4>goes to go work out, and sometimes his workouts coincide

0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:43.960
<v Speaker 4>with when they're bringing in rookies to work out. So

0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:44.760
<v Speaker 4>that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right, Well, look, this is not the last

0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:51.160
<v Speaker 3>time we will be discussing this subject. By the time

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<v Speaker 3>we do, when we get together for the next pod,

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<v Speaker 3>which will almost certainly be after the draft, will know

0:25:57.600 --> 0:26:01.040
<v Speaker 3>what Portland did with that number three pick. Were they

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<v Speaker 3>able to find a win now trade in the end

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<v Speaker 3>by packaging number three with Anthony Simons and getting Dame

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<v Speaker 3>Lillard some help that's more on his timeline, or if

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:16.840
<v Speaker 3>the Blazers actually go through with drafting nineteen year old

0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:20.280
<v Speaker 3>Scoot Henderson or twenty year old Brandon Miller, if that's

0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:25.360
<v Speaker 3>what the Blazers do, we'll see, we'll see then how

0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:29.280
<v Speaker 3>Damian Lillard reacts and we won't have to make projections

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<v Speaker 3>and reads.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's move on now to the draft.

0:26:35.680 --> 0:26:38.879
<v Speaker 3>Because Chris and I we can talk all day about

0:26:38.960 --> 0:26:43.840
<v Speaker 3>Bradley Beal, about Chris Paul, about Damian Lillard. We didn't

0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:47.440
<v Speaker 3>even get to James Harden and Kyrie Irving. I'm sure

0:26:47.440 --> 0:26:52.119
<v Speaker 3>we will soon. That's our sphere of expertise, but we

0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:55.040
<v Speaker 3>need some help now with what's actually going to be

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<v Speaker 3>going down Thursday night in Brooklyn at the Draft. Neither

0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:06.320
<v Speaker 3>one of us are super super well versed in the

0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:09.080
<v Speaker 3>broad matters of the draft. I've said it a bazillion

0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:13.479
<v Speaker 3>times over the last really two decades. I think covering

0:27:13.480 --> 0:27:15.720
<v Speaker 3>the NBA Draft. To really do it well, you got

0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:17.360
<v Speaker 3>to kind of make it your life. It's a year

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:22.080
<v Speaker 3>round job in itself. I loved throughout my ESBN years

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:26.320
<v Speaker 3>fifteen years of ESBN, Chad Ford handled every ounce of

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<v Speaker 3>the draft and I could just kind of swoop in

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<v Speaker 3>at the end for trades.

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<v Speaker 2>And today I am very.

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<v Speaker 3>Lucky, and we are lucky because a good friend of mine,

0:27:37.480 --> 0:27:41.679
<v Speaker 3>my Dallas neighbor, Raphael Barlow, the director of scouting for

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:44.720
<v Speaker 3>NBA Big Board, which is actually a substack that Chad

0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:48.720
<v Speaker 3>Ford started. Mister Barlow has taken it over, has done

0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:52.760
<v Speaker 3>a tremendous job with it. If you are an NBA draftnick,

0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:56.880
<v Speaker 3>I urge you to check out his substack because he's

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<v Speaker 3>got it all going on there about all the candidates

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:04.560
<v Speaker 3>for the fifty eight draft slots Thursday night. Of course,

0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:07.679
<v Speaker 3>we won't have sixty players taken. We'll only have fifty

0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:12.640
<v Speaker 3>eight picks in this draft because of some second rounders

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<v Speaker 3>that have been docked for free agent misdeeds. But that's

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<v Speaker 3>a story for another day. Tell us man, ro, it's

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<v Speaker 3>great to have you with us. I know you're already

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<v Speaker 3>in New York. We can hear we can hear you

0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:27.520
<v Speaker 3>the background noise. You're right in the heart of the

0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:30.360
<v Speaker 3>league's official draft hotel where it's all happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome to have you with us, man.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, thank you guys for the opportunity. Been listening since

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<v Speaker 5>day one, and I still laugh at the pizza and

0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 5>the dogs in the background. So yeah, I'm just glad

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<v Speaker 5>to be on. Thank you for having me on.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna try not to I don't know. I can't promise.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to try to have no Chris Haynes instigated

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<v Speaker 3>incidents in this pody.

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<v Speaker 4>He might beat us today to where he's at. Scoot

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<v Speaker 4>Anderson might pop up from behind him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, you know if Scoot walks by, if if

0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:03.920
<v Speaker 3>Wenby walks by, and you won't just want to pull

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<v Speaker 3>him into the pod, you know you have a you

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<v Speaker 3>have licensed to do. So let's let's start here. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna scoop you right now. Victor wen Minyama is

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<v Speaker 3>going number one on Thursday Night. That we know that,

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<v Speaker 3>we all know that we can promise.

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<v Speaker 2>But it is there.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you see any chance that that someone else infiltrates

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<v Speaker 3>two three and it wouldn't be Brandon Miller or Scoot

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<v Speaker 3>Henderson in those two spots.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I think there. I think it's set. Now which

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<v Speaker 5>order is I don't know. I mean you've heard that

0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:41.560
<v Speaker 5>the Hornets like Brandon Miller, and then now you're starting.

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:43.800
<v Speaker 6>To hear that they're like school. I did an.

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<v Speaker 5>Interview with one of the I Guess betting sites and

0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:48.040
<v Speaker 5>they said the odds are at Scoot. Now I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>a betting man, but that's what they're saying. But other

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<v Speaker 5>than that, I think the top three are locks. Definitely

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<v Speaker 5>with Weinbyama.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just in the lobby now and I've seen plenty

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<v Speaker 5>of guys when Victorama.

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<v Speaker 6>Spurs Jersey, so I guess they are.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they're ready for him to hit Alamo City. But

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<v Speaker 5>like I said, I think one, two, three are locked.

0:30:08.640 --> 0:30:10.360
<v Speaker 5>I just don't know the order for two and three.

0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:12.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's Charlotte.

0:30:12.360 --> 0:30:17.000
<v Speaker 3>Obviously, we were told brought in Scoot Henderson and Brandon

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<v Speaker 3>Miller one more time to start this week off? What's

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<v Speaker 3>your best forecast? As you know this is going to

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<v Speaker 3>drop on Tuesday, two days before the draft? What do

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<v Speaker 3>you What do you think Charlotte is really doing?

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<v Speaker 5>Man, I think they're they're really undecided. I personally think

0:30:34.880 --> 0:30:40.280
<v Speaker 5>that Brandon Miller is the better fit, and they may

0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:43.960
<v Speaker 5>have some reservations about school and LaMelo playing together. I

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<v Speaker 5>think if they didn't, then it would be a no brainer.

0:30:47.200 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 5>But right now, I think they're gonna go with Brandon Miller.

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<v Speaker 5>I think they're gonna entertain, you know, trading to pick

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:54.360
<v Speaker 5>and see what they can get for it. But I

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<v Speaker 5>think at it on Tuesday night, I'm sorry, Thursday night.

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<v Speaker 5>I think they're gonna go with Brandon Miller.

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<v Speaker 4>I know you can't or be I know, you can't

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<v Speaker 4>predict what's going to happen, what teamers are going to

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<v Speaker 4>move in and swoop in. But as far as what

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<v Speaker 4>you're hearing at the two three slot, do you have

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<v Speaker 4>any pulse on if those teams are two to three

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<v Speaker 4>Charlotte and Portland. Do you have any pulse on if

0:31:19.000 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 4>they will keep that pick?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't. I mean, I've heard the rumors.

0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 5>I had an agent tell me that he thinks that

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<v Speaker 5>the Siakam to Portland rumors. He thinks they're real, whether

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<v Speaker 5>or not they happen or not, but he thinks that

0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:35.680
<v Speaker 5>they're They're definitely kicking.

0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 6>The tires there.

0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:40.200
<v Speaker 5>And then we've all heard the rumors about the Hornets

0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:42.720
<v Speaker 5>wanting Zion, and then I've heard Brandon Miller and I'm.

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 6>Sorry, Brandon Negrom.

0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:46.920
<v Speaker 5>It's weird because just a few months ago they were

0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:48.960
<v Speaker 5>talking about this is a great draft, and now we're

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<v Speaker 5>in a situation where teams two, three, full maybe even

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<v Speaker 5>five would.

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<v Speaker 6>Be ready to trade out of the pick.

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<v Speaker 5>So but no, I don't have a post just hearing

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<v Speaker 5>like the rumors that they are open.

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<v Speaker 2>To to possibly.

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<v Speaker 6>Move in the picks.

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<v Speaker 4>How deep is this draft?

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Arf?

0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:10.000
<v Speaker 4>Can talk you talk about that, like how if obviously

0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:13.960
<v Speaker 4>anything can happen, Guys develop and guys blossom and come

0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:16.400
<v Speaker 4>into you know, become something that we didn't intend on.

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:20.320
<v Speaker 4>But just right now early on, like how deep is

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<v Speaker 4>this draft? You know, Indiana Pacers they're trying to move

0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:26.920
<v Speaker 4>their pick at number seven as well, So like how

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<v Speaker 4>many stars right now? Do you see? I'm not gonna

0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:33.720
<v Speaker 4>hold you to it later on, but it's just right now.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's more so deep and complimentary guys. I mean,

0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:42.680
<v Speaker 5>even like the worst teams for the Houston or this Detroit,

0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:45.360
<v Speaker 5>they have their their guys already. So I think the

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<v Speaker 5>draft is deep in finding like complimentary pieces that compliment that.

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<v Speaker 6>The stars that they have in place.

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<v Speaker 5>I think as far as stars, i'd say, I mean

0:32:56.960 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 5>historically picks one, two and three don't all make the

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<v Speaker 5>Star team. I think twenty sixteen was a rare year

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<v Speaker 5>with Ben Simmons and Brandon Ingram and Jalen Brown. I'd

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<v Speaker 5>say maybe four all stars in this class, just being realistic,

0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:15.200
<v Speaker 5>but you just never know.

0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:16.800
<v Speaker 6>I remember twenty twenty, we thought that.

0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:19.080
<v Speaker 5>Was a week class, and I think we overanalyzed it

0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 5>because of COVID and how long the process was.

0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:24.640
<v Speaker 6>But if you look at twenty twenty with LaMelo and.

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<v Speaker 5>Anthony Edwards and Halla Burton and Tyrese Maxi, that was

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<v Speaker 5>considered to be a weak class and it turned out

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<v Speaker 5>to be one of the better classes over the past

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<v Speaker 5>few years. So it's kind of hard to predict how

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<v Speaker 5>good this class will be. But I would say four

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<v Speaker 5>all stars.

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<v Speaker 3>I think since last week you've had Bill all Koolibali,

0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:47.800
<v Speaker 3>who is we've seen him as Webin Yama's teammate in

0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:50.160
<v Speaker 3>the French League. You've had him going number nine to

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<v Speaker 3>Utah since last week, higher than most people have projected him.

0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:58.400
<v Speaker 2>What are you seeing out of Wemby's teammate?

0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:01.280
<v Speaker 3>And I mean Utah was a really tough team to

0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:04.480
<v Speaker 3>try to pinpoint what they're gonna do because Danny Ainge

0:34:04.520 --> 0:34:05.760
<v Speaker 3>loves to confuse us all.

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:08.760
<v Speaker 2>What's kind of led you to rate him so highly?

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<v Speaker 5>Actually, I just talked to someone that was that's pretty

0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 5>connected to the situation and I jokingly say, yeah, I

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:18.040
<v Speaker 5>got him going nine, and they said, oh, he might

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<v Speaker 5>be going higher than that, So we'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 5>But I just think the trajectory I first saw him

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<v Speaker 5>play eighteen months ago in Paris, and I'm be honest

0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:31.279
<v Speaker 5>with you, I didn't go to Paris to watch Lao

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<v Speaker 5>Kulabali play. I want to go watch Victor play. And

0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:40.560
<v Speaker 5>it just so happened Victor's team because he played for

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<v Speaker 5>as Vil last year.

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<v Speaker 6>They were playing.

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<v Speaker 5>The Metropolitans ninety two and they have like an under

0:34:47.800 --> 0:34:49.880
<v Speaker 5>twenty one league. And I went to that game and

0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:52.359
<v Speaker 5>nobody heard him a loud. I sat there with Mike

0:34:52.400 --> 0:34:54.960
<v Speaker 5>Schmidz from ESPN and we had to go online just

0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:55.680
<v Speaker 5>to find his name.

0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:58.600
<v Speaker 6>And I thought, you know, he had some physical tools

0:34:59.160 --> 0:35:00.760
<v Speaker 6>that he could be in a prospect.

0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:03.760
<v Speaker 5>But in my mind, I'm thinking twenty twenty five draft,

0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:06.399
<v Speaker 5>twenty twenty four at the earliest. And I even went

0:35:06.440 --> 0:35:10.359
<v Speaker 5>to watch him in September this year and I went

0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:11.920
<v Speaker 5>to watch him at the under twenty one game and

0:35:11.920 --> 0:35:12.880
<v Speaker 5>he showed some flashes.

0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:15.120
<v Speaker 6>He had a really good game, and I thought, Okay, yeah,

0:35:15.160 --> 0:35:16.839
<v Speaker 6>this this is that is going to be a first

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:18.200
<v Speaker 6>round pick in twenty twenty four.

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:20.960
<v Speaker 5>And I don't think people remember that. When they had

0:35:20.960 --> 0:35:25.120
<v Speaker 5>the WINB Scoot showcase in Vegas back in October, he

0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:27.920
<v Speaker 5>got in that game, Like people don't remember he was

0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:28.919
<v Speaker 5>like a fish out of water.

0:35:29.920 --> 0:35:32.160
<v Speaker 6>But he's just got better and better and better.

0:35:32.200 --> 0:35:34.799
<v Speaker 5>He had some injuries that opened up playing time, and

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:37.120
<v Speaker 5>then he was trending in the right direction at the

0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:41.239
<v Speaker 5>right time. During the Metropolitans playoff run, he just, I

0:35:41.280 --> 0:35:43.800
<v Speaker 5>mean just turned into a different player with his athleticism

0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:47.400
<v Speaker 5>and his ability to impact games without dominating the ball.

0:35:48.000 --> 0:35:51.120
<v Speaker 5>So I think based off of like how he's developed

0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:54.960
<v Speaker 5>over the last eighteen months, there's some recency bias, but

0:35:55.040 --> 0:35:57.560
<v Speaker 5>he measures well, he's athletic, and so I think that

0:35:57.719 --> 0:36:01.080
<v Speaker 5>is the reason why he's basically go onto in my opinion,

0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:04.400
<v Speaker 5>changed the lottery. He could be one of the guys

0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:08.640
<v Speaker 5>that goes anywhere from maybe six to ten, which is

0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:11.719
<v Speaker 5>something that we would have never talked about maybe two

0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:13.200
<v Speaker 5>months ago, maybe even six weeks.

0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:19.000
<v Speaker 4>Ago, or be that that individual might be the answer

0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:20.880
<v Speaker 4>for my question that I have coming up. But I

0:36:20.920 --> 0:36:25.719
<v Speaker 4>want to ask you look into your crystal ball, who

0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:29.360
<v Speaker 4>would you think would be the still of this draft?

0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:32.040
<v Speaker 4>If you had two candidates to pick from when we're

0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:36.399
<v Speaker 4>talking about this five years later, which guys you think

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 4>has the potential be the steals of this draft?

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<v Speaker 6>I'd say one is Blad Black Gulabali.

0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:46.040
<v Speaker 5>Obviously he has the exposure just because he's played with

0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:46.640
<v Speaker 5>win Byama.

0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 6>I would say Gigi Jackson.

0:36:49.360 --> 0:36:52.160
<v Speaker 5>Gigi is interesting because he was the number one player

0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:55.600
<v Speaker 5>in his high school class. He reclassified up, and you

0:36:55.640 --> 0:36:57.640
<v Speaker 5>can make a case and say it could have been

0:36:57.640 --> 0:36:59.120
<v Speaker 5>a mistake because.

0:36:58.920 --> 0:37:01.080
<v Speaker 6>Twenty twenty four class is considered to be weak.

0:37:01.120 --> 0:37:03.759
<v Speaker 5>If he stays in his normal draft class, then he

0:37:03.800 --> 0:37:06.120
<v Speaker 5>could have been at a top five pick.

0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:08.880
<v Speaker 6>There are some concerns about maturity.

0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:11.680
<v Speaker 5>He's an eighteen year old kid that started the season

0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:15.200
<v Speaker 5>off at seventeen. I think that just as far as

0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:18.240
<v Speaker 5>just talent wise, I think he's a top ten talent

0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:24.040
<v Speaker 5>in his draft. But I think honestly that reclassifying up

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:28.400
<v Speaker 5>hurt him as far as like the maturity and developmental stage.

0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:31.719
<v Speaker 5>I think basically skipped the step. But I think that

0:37:31.800 --> 0:37:34.280
<v Speaker 5>a team probably selects him late in the first round,

0:37:34.600 --> 0:37:37.040
<v Speaker 5>and if he develops, I think he could end up

0:37:37.080 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 5>being like the guy that GMS five years later. Like Man,

0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:44.160
<v Speaker 5>we saw the talent, we just were scared to take

0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:46.160
<v Speaker 5>that risk. So those are my two.

0:37:46.480 --> 0:37:51.120
<v Speaker 3>Rafael Barlow, the director of scouting for NBA Big Board,

0:37:51.200 --> 0:37:55.200
<v Speaker 3>our special guest here on this League uncut helping us

0:37:55.239 --> 0:38:00.000
<v Speaker 3>preview Thursday's NBA draft because he has studied all of them,

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:04.000
<v Speaker 3>these guys, that's his full time gig. I noticed on

0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:08.000
<v Speaker 3>your latest mock draft that came out Monday, you had

0:38:08.000 --> 0:38:12.000
<v Speaker 3>Taylor Hendrix at number twelve going to the Thunder. Has

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:15.680
<v Speaker 3>he slipped some has he you know? Has he has?

0:38:16.600 --> 0:38:18.799
<v Speaker 3>Is he falling out of the top ten? Is that

0:38:18.880 --> 0:38:21.080
<v Speaker 3>kind of the chatter and buzz that you've been hearing.

0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:24.759
<v Speaker 5>No, not necessarily, Well, I say that if he is,

0:38:24.760 --> 0:38:27.080
<v Speaker 5>it's not because he's done anything to fall I just

0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:30.800
<v Speaker 5>think that Blao has moved up and has blumped somebody down.

0:38:31.320 --> 0:38:33.479
<v Speaker 5>And then I think Derek Lively, who I've been high

0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:35.920
<v Speaker 5>on for the last few months. I think that Lively

0:38:36.080 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 5>has really turned the corner and had some really good workouts.

0:38:40.920 --> 0:38:41.480
<v Speaker 6>Seven to one.

0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:44.640
<v Speaker 5>He's up to two thirty five now. And he didn't

0:38:44.640 --> 0:38:47.520
<v Speaker 5>shoot the ball really at all at Duke, only average

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:50.040
<v Speaker 5>five points per game, but just was dominant defensively in

0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:51.080
<v Speaker 5>the second half of the year.

0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:53.200
<v Speaker 6>And then he had a Pro Day where he knocked

0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:54.640
<v Speaker 6>down fourteen threes in a row.

0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:57.640
<v Speaker 5>He showed some flashes, have been able to knock down

0:38:57.719 --> 0:39:00.840
<v Speaker 5>open shots at the prep levels, but thinking in some

0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:04.279
<v Speaker 5>of the pro days, in the individual workouts, he's shown

0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:06.480
<v Speaker 5>that the touch is real, and so I think some

0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:09.799
<v Speaker 5>teams may see him as a guy that's ready to

0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:11.799
<v Speaker 5>come in and contribute right away on the glass from

0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:15.040
<v Speaker 5>the defensive end and then could be like this versatile

0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:19.319
<v Speaker 5>rim protector, vertical lop threat, slash picking pop threat down

0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:19.680
<v Speaker 5>the line.

0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:21.520
<v Speaker 6>So I think Lively is more of another.

0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:23.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm glad you brought him up, because, again, as

0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:27.440
<v Speaker 3>I've noted many times about myself, I don't do a

0:39:27.480 --> 0:39:30.440
<v Speaker 3>lot of draft coverage. But I did have a Derek

0:39:30.520 --> 0:39:34.160
<v Speaker 3>Lively note in my Monday notebook because more than one

0:39:34.200 --> 0:39:37.080
<v Speaker 3>team I've I guess because I'm based in Dallas and

0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:39.840
<v Speaker 3>I've covered the Mavericks for so long, these teams felt

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:41.839
<v Speaker 3>like they wanted to share this with me. But I've

0:39:41.840 --> 0:39:45.360
<v Speaker 3>been hearing all these Tyson Chandler comparisons, and he's Tyson

0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:48.279
<v Speaker 3>to two point zero. I mean, how realistic do you

0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:49.920
<v Speaker 3>think it is that he could live up to that?

0:39:50.719 --> 0:39:54.400
<v Speaker 5>You know, honestly, that was my prediction coming into the season.

0:39:55.000 --> 0:39:57.360
<v Speaker 5>I thought he first of all, physically, he kind of

0:39:57.400 --> 0:39:59.160
<v Speaker 5>looks like like Tyson.

0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:00.759
<v Speaker 6>As far as just like the dimensions.

0:40:01.160 --> 0:40:03.320
<v Speaker 5>And then if you remember, Tyson was like a great

0:40:03.520 --> 0:40:06.680
<v Speaker 5>offensive player in high school, but then he just kind

0:40:06.680 --> 0:40:09.799
<v Speaker 5>of settled into this role in the NBA as you know,

0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:13.279
<v Speaker 5>your live threat. And I felt like I wouldn't be

0:40:13.320 --> 0:40:17.040
<v Speaker 5>surprised if Lively just kind of settles into this role

0:40:17.080 --> 0:40:20.360
<v Speaker 5>as just a vertical lob threat, the guy that plays

0:40:20.360 --> 0:40:24.560
<v Speaker 5>at the dunker spot. But there are similarities there, and

0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:27.720
<v Speaker 5>I think that it's fair.

0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:29.720
<v Speaker 6>It's fair, especially if you live in Dallas.

0:40:29.760 --> 0:40:31.800
<v Speaker 5>And of course people in Dallas are always gonna remember

0:40:31.800 --> 0:40:35.120
<v Speaker 5>Tyson from being on the championship teams. But I do

0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:38.319
<v Speaker 5>think that the buzz would Lively to Dallas. I think

0:40:38.320 --> 0:40:39.000
<v Speaker 5>it is legit.

0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:41.960
<v Speaker 4>I think it's real legit. RB. Can you take us

0:40:42.040 --> 0:40:44.040
<v Speaker 4>behind the scenes with you being there in New York,

0:40:44.080 --> 0:40:49.239
<v Speaker 4>you being there with with all the draft prospects, the

0:40:49.239 --> 0:40:54.040
<v Speaker 4>top guys, agents, executives. How will your board in the

0:40:54.040 --> 0:40:56.879
<v Speaker 4>next two days lead up to the draft? How will

0:40:56.920 --> 0:41:00.359
<v Speaker 4>your board change? Would it be dramatic change it from

0:41:00.360 --> 0:41:02.839
<v Speaker 4>now to then? And like, what what do you hear

0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:07.399
<v Speaker 4>in the next two days that would initiate you moving

0:41:07.480 --> 0:41:10.319
<v Speaker 4>guys up or down? He's walk us through, like what

0:41:10.360 --> 0:41:11.920
<v Speaker 4>these next two days are like for you.

0:41:13.320 --> 0:41:16.520
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean this is my first, my first time

0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:19.040
<v Speaker 5>being in New York at the draft, and of course

0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:21.080
<v Speaker 5>you know when you hear things, you gotta take away

0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:25.800
<v Speaker 5>to figure what's coming from. The agents are probably gonna

0:41:25.800 --> 0:41:29.879
<v Speaker 5>tell me that their guy is moving up and so on.

0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:33.640
<v Speaker 5>I mean, right now, I think my board is solid.

0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:36.000
<v Speaker 5>I mean, as I'm saying this, NASTI the Thompson Twins,

0:41:36.040 --> 0:41:38.759
<v Speaker 5>they just they just pulled up, but they just pulled

0:41:38.800 --> 0:41:40.600
<v Speaker 5>it behind me. But I think my board is solid.

0:41:40.719 --> 0:41:42.840
<v Speaker 5>But I do think it can change if some trades

0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:47.000
<v Speaker 5>are made. So I think, like, for example, if Detroit

0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:50.440
<v Speaker 5>moves up to two, I'm just throwing something out that

0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:52.520
<v Speaker 5>I don't think they're gonna select school. I think they're

0:41:52.560 --> 0:41:55.400
<v Speaker 5>going for Brandon Miller just because it just makes the

0:41:55.400 --> 0:41:58.719
<v Speaker 5>most sense there. But I think it's I mean, it's

0:41:58.719 --> 0:42:01.440
<v Speaker 5>pretty solid. I mean can be fluid here and there,

0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:02.440
<v Speaker 5>especially after.

0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:04.560
<v Speaker 6>The lottery, but I think the lottery is pretty solid.

0:42:04.800 --> 0:42:07.680
<v Speaker 3>Among the Thompson twins. How much competition is there amongst

0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:08.960
<v Speaker 3>the two of them, You think.

0:42:09.120 --> 0:42:14.400
<v Speaker 5>Well, it's funny because like on draft Twitter and on

0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:17.680
<v Speaker 5>mock boards, you hear that amen is higher. But just

0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:20.040
<v Speaker 5>from teams that I've talked to, they don't really see

0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:23.000
<v Speaker 5>that much of a difference. A Sword is not the

0:42:23.040 --> 0:42:24.840
<v Speaker 5>one that gets all the attention, but he is the

0:42:24.880 --> 0:42:27.440
<v Speaker 5>two time MVP of the Overtime Elite League.

0:42:27.560 --> 0:42:30.240
<v Speaker 6>He's the better shooter of the two, not by much.

0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:32.640
<v Speaker 5>I mean, they both have their their issue shooting, but

0:42:32.640 --> 0:42:34.719
<v Speaker 5>he's the better shooter, and some feel like he's the

0:42:34.760 --> 0:42:37.840
<v Speaker 5>better defender. And even if you look at their passing stats,

0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:40.239
<v Speaker 5>even though one played more so on the ball and

0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:43.440
<v Speaker 5>another off the ball, the difference between their assist numbers

0:42:43.520 --> 0:42:46.960
<v Speaker 5>is like six point one to six point two. But

0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:50.839
<v Speaker 5>Amen is like a phenomenal athlete. He may be the

0:42:50.840 --> 0:42:54.560
<v Speaker 5>best athlete in the NBA next season. So I think

0:42:54.680 --> 0:42:59.280
<v Speaker 5>that's why some think that he has the higher upside.

0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:01.960
<v Speaker 5>But honestly, I do not think that there's much of

0:43:02.000 --> 0:43:05.200
<v Speaker 5>a difference. And I also think that a sword his

0:43:05.200 --> 0:43:07.600
<v Speaker 5>best position is as a primary brought him or too.

0:43:07.800 --> 0:43:10.319
<v Speaker 3>All right, Well, we've talked about almost everybody in the

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:13.640
<v Speaker 3>top in well maybe not almost everybody. We've talked about

0:43:13.719 --> 0:43:17.520
<v Speaker 3>several lottery names here without getting into Wemby.

0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:18.960
<v Speaker 2>We saved him for last.

0:43:19.440 --> 0:43:23.120
<v Speaker 3>You've obviously seen him many more times in person than

0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:27.040
<v Speaker 3>Chris or I, how would you grade his NBA readiness

0:43:27.239 --> 0:43:31.160
<v Speaker 3>today and what do you think we'll see in Summer League,

0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:34.799
<v Speaker 3>because it sounds like I spoke to someone who kind

0:43:34.840 --> 0:43:37.880
<v Speaker 3>of had a feel for san Antonio's expectations and they

0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:42.520
<v Speaker 3>were hopeful that he's going to play some portion of

0:43:42.560 --> 0:43:46.000
<v Speaker 3>Summer League, probably the veguest portion rather than Sacramento. And

0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:47.719
<v Speaker 3>then I think we've all seen the clip of him

0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:51.439
<v Speaker 3>talking after his last game in the French Finals where

0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:54.040
<v Speaker 3>he was asked if he plans to play Summer League

0:43:54.040 --> 0:43:57.480
<v Speaker 3>and he said a little bit, just I guess paint

0:43:57.520 --> 0:44:01.040
<v Speaker 3>your picture of what you've seen from when Minyama to

0:44:01.080 --> 0:44:03.360
<v Speaker 3>this point and what we're going to see here in

0:44:04.040 --> 0:44:05.880
<v Speaker 3>a couple of weeks in Vegas.

0:44:05.880 --> 0:44:08.120
<v Speaker 5>A funny story, my first time saying when Mayama was

0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:11.279
<v Speaker 5>actually on my wedding night. So I got married in

0:44:11.320 --> 0:44:13.680
<v Speaker 5>Paris and me and my wife got married at the

0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:15.680
<v Speaker 5>Eiffel Tower. So we had to do it at like

0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:17.920
<v Speaker 5>six o'clock in the morning to make sure there was

0:44:17.920 --> 0:44:20.759
<v Speaker 5>nobody in our in our photo shots, and the game

0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:22.680
<v Speaker 5>was at nine o'clock, so I'm like, hey, you know

0:44:22.800 --> 0:44:25.480
<v Speaker 5>there's a game at later on tonight at nine pm.

0:44:25.520 --> 0:44:28.000
<v Speaker 5>You want to go check this with Miyama kid out,

0:44:28.440 --> 0:44:30.439
<v Speaker 5>And I mean I knew my wife would say yes,

0:44:30.560 --> 0:44:31.919
<v Speaker 5>and so look to the game.

0:44:31.960 --> 0:44:34.840
<v Speaker 4>We got a rider. Yeah, I gotta keep for sure.

0:44:35.719 --> 0:44:37.960
<v Speaker 2>It was year, what year? How long ago was that?

0:44:38.280 --> 0:44:40.239
<v Speaker 5>This was twenty twenty one, so this was this was

0:44:40.360 --> 0:44:44.160
<v Speaker 5>last season and so yeah, we went to the game

0:44:44.280 --> 0:44:47.279
<v Speaker 5>and of course he picks up two fouls in like

0:44:47.320 --> 0:44:50.760
<v Speaker 5>the first four minutes, and you know, she was enjoying

0:44:50.800 --> 0:44:52.640
<v Speaker 5>the experience because it was her first time in Paris

0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:56.480
<v Speaker 5>and so on. But it wasn't until the showcase game

0:44:56.520 --> 0:44:59.040
<v Speaker 5>against School in October but she thought like.

0:44:59.080 --> 0:45:03.160
<v Speaker 6>Oh, you're a you're ahead, like you're really good at this.

0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:05.960
<v Speaker 5>And so, I mean, everybody knew that that he was special,

0:45:06.000 --> 0:45:08.759
<v Speaker 5>but for my wife, she could tell her friends that

0:45:08.800 --> 0:45:11.000
<v Speaker 5>I saw win Beyama like two years before he made

0:45:11.000 --> 0:45:11.680
<v Speaker 5>it to the NBA.

0:45:12.280 --> 0:45:12.640
<v Speaker 6>Bady.

0:45:12.640 --> 0:45:15.279
<v Speaker 5>I've seen him play, I want to say five times now,

0:45:15.760 --> 0:45:18.000
<v Speaker 5>and the jump that he made from last year to

0:45:18.080 --> 0:45:21.879
<v Speaker 5>this year has been incredible. It's I wouldn't say it's

0:45:21.920 --> 0:45:25.040
<v Speaker 5>the Luca Doncies jump that he made from seventeen season

0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:29.160
<v Speaker 5>to eighteen seasons, but it's pretty close. Dodgers's competition was

0:45:29.200 --> 0:45:33.200
<v Speaker 5>a lot tougher, but I think when Beyama is ready

0:45:33.880 --> 0:45:35.960
<v Speaker 5>on the defensive end, as far as his impact, He's

0:45:36.000 --> 0:45:39.239
<v Speaker 5>definitely gonna struggle with physicality early on. But I think

0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:41.600
<v Speaker 5>that he's going to even be better in the NBA

0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:44.160
<v Speaker 5>because the spacing gets better, the game is longer.

0:45:45.320 --> 0:45:46.320
<v Speaker 6>Of course, he's gonna.

0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:49.080
<v Speaker 5>End up getting superstar calls, so it can add another

0:45:49.120 --> 0:45:50.960
<v Speaker 5>two to three points to his points per game.

0:45:51.400 --> 0:45:54.160
<v Speaker 6>But I think he's ready. It's just unfair.

0:45:54.200 --> 0:45:57.160
<v Speaker 5>The expectations are so high, and we've never seen the

0:45:57.239 --> 0:45:59.239
<v Speaker 5>league put a guy on the NBA app before he's

0:45:59.280 --> 0:46:00.120
<v Speaker 5>played a game.

0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:01.799
<v Speaker 2>And he seems to want it. Though.

0:46:01.800 --> 0:46:05.319
<v Speaker 3>Does he seems to want the hype and the and

0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:05.880
<v Speaker 3>the attention.

0:46:06.239 --> 0:46:10.560
<v Speaker 6>I don't know, because I've heard that he's had every.

0:46:10.520 --> 0:46:13.920
<v Speaker 5>Endorsement opportunity in the world and he hasn't signed anything.

0:46:14.640 --> 0:46:18.520
<v Speaker 5>I've heard that he's had so many opportunities to be

0:46:18.560 --> 0:46:21.839
<v Speaker 5>a pitch man, and he has just no plans to

0:46:21.840 --> 0:46:23.919
<v Speaker 5>to really pitch products.

0:46:23.600 --> 0:46:25.880
<v Speaker 6>Or anything like that. He just wants to play. But

0:46:26.000 --> 0:46:29.080
<v Speaker 6>I think that I don't know.

0:46:29.200 --> 0:46:33.680
<v Speaker 5>I think it's a combination of him wanting to be

0:46:33.840 --> 0:46:37.560
<v Speaker 5>out there, but also do it in small steps, but

0:46:38.400 --> 0:46:40.879
<v Speaker 5>I just think he's he's he's ready. Like I said,

0:46:40.880 --> 0:46:43.560
<v Speaker 5>the expectations are ridiculous, but I think he's ready to

0:46:43.600 --> 0:46:44.719
<v Speaker 5>come in and contribute right away.

0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:48.600
<v Speaker 3>I mean, they played Monaco in the French League finals,

0:46:48.600 --> 0:46:51.760
<v Speaker 3>and obviously Monaco a euro League team, a successful euro

0:46:51.840 --> 0:46:55.480
<v Speaker 3>League team, and Ton, I mean when they have seven

0:46:55.600 --> 0:46:59.799
<v Speaker 3>former NBA players, yet had a feeling that the physicality

0:46:59.840 --> 0:47:01.960
<v Speaker 3>and that series would be an issue. What did you

0:47:02.040 --> 0:47:06.399
<v Speaker 3>see in that series? Any reason for concern or I mean, look,

0:47:06.440 --> 0:47:08.680
<v Speaker 3>I think the European game, you can be more physical

0:47:08.680 --> 0:47:10.160
<v Speaker 3>than you're gonna be able to in the NBA.

0:47:10.400 --> 0:47:13.640
<v Speaker 6>So you know, I wasn't reason for concern.

0:47:13.680 --> 0:47:17.200
<v Speaker 5>I mean you're talking about the Metropolitans ninety two teams

0:47:17.480 --> 0:47:20.600
<v Speaker 5>that you can say two of their three best players

0:47:20.640 --> 0:47:22.640
<v Speaker 5>were a nineteen year old and an eighteen year old, right,

0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:25.520
<v Speaker 5>And the Monico team that's Mike James, who's a legend

0:47:25.520 --> 0:47:28.239
<v Speaker 5>in Europe. I think he's like Europe's I think he's

0:47:28.280 --> 0:47:30.600
<v Speaker 5>one of the off time leading scores for American players.

0:47:30.600 --> 0:47:31.959
<v Speaker 6>Manton Units is on that team.

0:47:32.000 --> 0:47:35.279
<v Speaker 3>I mean, call Jordan Lloyd and then you know, I

0:47:35.280 --> 0:47:37.359
<v Speaker 3>know I'm leaving a boss in game, and they got

0:47:37.400 --> 0:47:39.200
<v Speaker 3>a lot of x NBA guys on that team.

0:47:39.280 --> 0:47:44.080
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so no, there's there's definitely no reasons to be concerned.

0:47:44.160 --> 0:47:47.239
<v Speaker 5>And then you know, the Metropolitans had some injury, so

0:47:47.280 --> 0:47:50.120
<v Speaker 5>they're not even playing with the I mean, it had

0:47:50.160 --> 0:47:53.680
<v Speaker 5>some late additions, so I wouldn't be too concerned about it.

0:47:53.719 --> 0:47:55.880
<v Speaker 5>I just think that it's amazing that you got a

0:47:55.920 --> 0:47:59.120
<v Speaker 5>team that went that far being led by teenagers.

0:47:59.400 --> 0:48:02.840
<v Speaker 2>No, that's fair, point, makes sense. And listen, I'm so glad.

0:48:02.920 --> 0:48:04.880
<v Speaker 3>I know you're swamped out there in New York and

0:48:04.920 --> 0:48:08.120
<v Speaker 3>you're right in the heart of the draft beast. I'm

0:48:08.160 --> 0:48:10.360
<v Speaker 3>really glad that we found a way to track you

0:48:10.440 --> 0:48:13.399
<v Speaker 3>down connect bring you on here to help us sound

0:48:13.440 --> 0:48:18.320
<v Speaker 3>a little smarter about the draft. Rafeae Al Barlow again, folks,

0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:22.120
<v Speaker 3>director of scouting for NBA Big Board, a wonderful sub

0:48:22.160 --> 0:48:25.760
<v Speaker 3>stack that this time of year especially, I consult daily

0:48:26.080 --> 0:48:30.839
<v Speaker 3>to try to get a better handle on what we're

0:48:30.880 --> 0:48:35.200
<v Speaker 3>going to be seeing Thursday night, and I urge.

0:48:35.000 --> 0:48:35.960
<v Speaker 2>You to check it out.

0:48:35.960 --> 0:48:39.280
<v Speaker 3>And also, he has a podcast, an NBA big Board Podcast,

0:48:39.400 --> 0:48:42.960
<v Speaker 3>where he's covering this material all the time, five pods

0:48:43.000 --> 0:48:48.120
<v Speaker 3>a week, making us, making us man, we gotta we

0:48:48.200 --> 0:48:49.160
<v Speaker 3>might have to step it up.

0:48:49.400 --> 0:48:54.920
<v Speaker 4>Oh no, not like that, like that.

0:48:56.000 --> 0:49:01.440
<v Speaker 5>Five we get after this, Angelia, thank you for squeezing

0:49:01.520 --> 0:49:01.759
<v Speaker 5>us in.

0:49:01.920 --> 0:49:03.880
<v Speaker 2>Have a great time all week out.

0:49:03.760 --> 0:49:07.520
<v Speaker 3>There in New York, and really enjoy Thursday night. It

0:49:07.560 --> 0:49:10.799
<v Speaker 3>should be a special. It's gonna be. I think it's

0:49:10.800 --> 0:49:13.239
<v Speaker 3>gonna be a really interesting evening because obviously number one,

0:49:13.280 --> 0:49:15.640
<v Speaker 3>we know what's gonna happen. But I feel like from

0:49:15.760 --> 0:49:19.640
<v Speaker 3>from two on, we we we could have some some surprises,

0:49:19.680 --> 0:49:22.880
<v Speaker 3>some trades, some action, so it should be it should

0:49:22.960 --> 0:49:23.520
<v Speaker 3>be interesting.

0:49:24.440 --> 0:49:26.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, definitely, thanks for having me on. I really appreciate

0:49:26.960 --> 0:49:29.800
<v Speaker 5>this opportunity. Thanks that I followed you guys for years

0:49:29.840 --> 0:49:32.160
<v Speaker 5>and so it's it's it's actually cool for me to

0:49:32.560 --> 0:49:34.239
<v Speaker 5>be on a podcast with with you guys.

0:49:34.239 --> 0:49:35.040
<v Speaker 6>So thank you again.

0:49:35.360 --> 0:49:37.560
<v Speaker 2>We will do it again sometime for sure.

0:49:37.520 --> 0:49:37.919
<v Speaker 4>For sure.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, everyone that does it for this edition of

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<v Speaker 3>This League Uncut, Remember please as always, rate, review, and

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0:49:54.200 --> 0:49:59.080
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0:49:59.080 --> 0:50:01.200
<v Speaker 3>say exactly what it's gonna be, but yes, I am

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<v Speaker 3>betting on more trade transactional action.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay tuned and we'll talk soon, and that I'll do

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<v Speaker 2>it for us.

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