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Speaker 3: Hey everyone, great to have you with us for another
Speaker 3: edition of this League Uncut.
Speaker 2: A good one, we hope.
Speaker 3: So because it's a big week, a huge week, a
Speaker 3: crazy time in the NBA that is already off to
Speaker 3: a wild and chaotic start. It's Draft week Monday night
Speaker 3: as we record this Tuesday morning release for this edition
Speaker 3: of this League Uncut, and we've already had a blockbuster
Speaker 3: trade Sunday, the Suns and the Wizards come to turn
Speaker 3: on a Bradley Beal deal. Bradley Beal going to the
Speaker 3: Suns for nothing more than Chris Paul's expiring contract, Landry Shammitt,
Speaker 3: a slew of second round picks, maybe another small contract
Speaker 3: or two thrown into the deal. But this thing happened quick,
Speaker 3: It kind of came out. It was the weekend when
Speaker 3: we basically heard that the Wizards had zeroed in on
Speaker 3: either Miami or Phoenix. And it certainly does appear that
Speaker 3: Miami was not ready to move as quickly as the
Speaker 3: Wizards would have liked, whereas.
Speaker 2: The Suns were highly motivated.
Speaker 3: To move quickly because Chris Paul's contract, the centerpiece of
Speaker 3: this deal, of course, has the guarantee date on June
Speaker 3: twenty eighth. The Suns had told Chris Paul, as our
Speaker 3: own Chris Haynes reported as our own Chris Haynes first
Speaker 3: reported the Suns was it two weeks ago had informed Paul,
Speaker 3: left Paul and his representatives with the clear impression that
Speaker 3: they were going to waive him if they couldn't trade him.
Speaker 2: But they did find a trade. I mean, this is.
Speaker 3: You know, for the Wizards, it's really the only deal
Speaker 3: they could make. It's the only way to start their rebuild.
Speaker 3: That no trade clause that they needlessly and inexplicably gave
Speaker 3: Bradley Beal a year ago, it gave Bradley Beal and
Speaker 3: Mark Bartelstein all the control. They were basically able to
Speaker 3: pick their destination. But for the Wizards to start over
Speaker 3: getting off Bill's long term money, they basically had to
Speaker 3: take whatever trade they could to make it happen. So
Speaker 3: they've taken a deal that doesn't look great. I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't. I frankly don't love it for either team.
Speaker 3: But you tell me, Chris Haynes, you've been covering this
Speaker 3: one as closely as anyone. What was what was your
Speaker 3: first reaction when you heard that Phoenix was the destination
Speaker 3: for Bradley Beal.
Speaker 4: I thought Miami would be in the driver's seat because
Speaker 4: I felt even if brad wanted to go to Phoenix
Speaker 4: first and foremost, I felt like, well, I thought the
Speaker 4: Wizards would put up a fight because you can get
Speaker 4: they can get more from Miami opposed to Phoenix. So
Speaker 4: I thought it was going to be a little bit
Speaker 4: more fighting in that regard from Bill's camp and the Wizards,
Speaker 4: but there was not, which shows which tells you that
Speaker 4: the Wizards were prepared with this new regime with Winger
Speaker 4: as the head of basket operations over there, they were
Speaker 4: prepared to go into a rebuild at any costs. You know,
Speaker 4: they looked at it, and again, you know, they didn't
Speaker 4: get much, but they got off of the salary, they
Speaker 4: got off of that contract, and now they can kind
Speaker 4: of start going into the direction of doing the reset
Speaker 4: with new management. And for Phoenix, they're going all in.
Speaker 4: I mean Stein, They're not going to have a pick
Speaker 4: at all, like for a while, like they're going they're
Speaker 4: still trying right now, they're still trying to figure out
Speaker 4: how many second round picks are going to be included
Speaker 4: in this deal. They don't have a first round pick,
Speaker 4: so they're going to be without a pick for a while,
Speaker 4: which means they put all of their chips in. They
Speaker 4: are all in. They are sold on this. It has
Speaker 4: to work. It has to work, So Frank Vogel, he
Speaker 4: has a work cut out on I don't think it's
Speaker 4: going to take much to build around that. That team.
Speaker 4: I think players are going to come and play for
Speaker 4: the minimum or some guys will take less money for
Speaker 4: a year. I think I think it will. You know,
Speaker 4: Phoenix is not a bad place to stay, not definitely
Speaker 4: not a bad place to stay. So I think they'll
Speaker 4: accomplish accomplish that. But what the pieces fit, that's the
Speaker 4: big question. Will the pieces fit. Who's going to be
Speaker 4: the primary ball handler on this team? Do they feel
Speaker 4: they have it already or do they have to go
Speaker 4: out there and find one. So there's a lot of holes,
Speaker 4: but they they definitely got the biggest three, the biggest
Speaker 4: three that this league has currently right now. So those
Speaker 4: were my initial thoughts when the trade went down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, we've talked already for weeks about what
Speaker 3: the new CBA is going to do. There are some
Speaker 3: there are a few of the tough restrictions come in
Speaker 3: in year one and then after this coming season. Is
Speaker 3: really when teams that are in second apron territory just
Speaker 3: lose all flexibility to I mean, you just lose any
Speaker 3: number of roster building measures. And that's a problem. It's
Speaker 3: not just that the Suns are going to be lacking
Speaker 3: depth after making this trade. I mean it's rebounding its defense.
Speaker 3: It's coping with Jokic and Anthony Davis, which you have
Speaker 3: to do if you want to get out of the West,
Speaker 3: like the tools to change their team. Like basically, the
Speaker 3: decision the Sun's made was, Okay, we're we've got a
Speaker 3: crazy high payroll as it is.
Speaker 2: We went all in on Kevin Durant.
Speaker 3: Then the rules changed, so we're gonna go even farther
Speaker 3: all in while we still can. And just the problem
Speaker 3: with that strategy is if it doesn't work, if this
Speaker 3: thing gets off to a rocky start after year one,
Speaker 3: or even especially if it goes two years, it's going
Speaker 3: to be so hard for them to make changes. So
Speaker 3: that's why around the league, so many people are expecting
Speaker 3: that DeAndre Ayton has to get moved, if not immediately,
Speaker 3: between now and the February trade deadline, because if the
Speaker 3: Suns keep him, it's gonna be much harder to trade
Speaker 3: him and get back pieces that work. They just to
Speaker 3: be able to pull off a trade because of all
Speaker 3: the restrictions forthcoming.
Speaker 2: So you know, what can they get for Ayton? I mean,
Speaker 2: I just have I don't know.
Speaker 3: I guess to me, I'm less worried about, Like I
Speaker 3: kind of feel like between between Devin Booker and Bradley Beal,
Speaker 3: they'll figure out the ball handling, but everything else man again,
Speaker 3: you know, wings, defense, rebounding, I mean, there's so many
Speaker 3: holes they still have to fill as good. You know,
Speaker 3: even if you think that these three stars are going
Speaker 3: to just snap together fantastically.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Phoenix initially try to include Ayton in the deal.
Speaker 4: It was gonna be Ayton, and believe Sammon, the Wizards
Speaker 4: didn't want that. The Wizards wanted Chris Paul's expiring contract
Speaker 4: in that deal. So I mean, I honestly think, you know,
Speaker 4: that's probably a little bit more flexibility for for for
Speaker 4: defitting Sons, because I think there's a there is a
Speaker 4: good chance that Aiden could be moved, could be moved
Speaker 4: before the season starts. So that's definitely an option out
Speaker 4: there where the Sons probably feel like they can get
Speaker 4: a couple of pieces, a couple of quality pieces back
Speaker 4: in return for DeAndre Aiden, which which will help with
Speaker 4: their depth and help with the holes that you said,
Speaker 4: wing perimeter guys, three D guys, those type of prospects.
Speaker 4: So again, kudos to Matt Ishpia, James Jones. They went
Speaker 4: all in. They went all in, and you know, we'll
Speaker 4: see how it fares from here. But stein the process
Speaker 4: of going all in, there's a little bit of co
Speaker 4: troversy on how how and how they handled going all
Speaker 4: in and how they handled sending out a player. That
Speaker 4: player is Chris Paul. What did you think when you
Speaker 4: saw Chris Paul's let me see, he went on Good
Speaker 4: Morning America First he's doing his tour the name of
Speaker 4: his book sixty one, so doing his book tour. Story
Speaker 4: is in New York right now, Good Morning America First
Speaker 4: City basically said he was surprised of the News and
Speaker 4: he found out that he was traded via his son,
Speaker 4: which I knew about. That son was at a basketball
Speaker 4: camp at the time, and that's how he That's how
Speaker 4: he found out, and then he went out on Then
Speaker 4: he did the story with the did an interview with
Speaker 4: The New York Times. Stein, Can you elaborate on that
Speaker 4: one please.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So the New York Times, my former Employeyers and
Speaker 3: my former teammates, Soapandeb did a great piece touching on
Speaker 3: not just the book, but how everything went down with Phoenix.
Speaker 3: And in that interview with Soapin Chris Paul twice referred
Speaker 3: to Matt and Isaiah as the Sun's decision makers, and
Speaker 3: Isaiah of course refers to Isaiah Thomas. You reported at
Speaker 3: the time, just as Ishbia was going to be formally
Speaker 3: introduced as the Son's new owner, about the influential voice
Speaker 3: that Isaiah Thomas was going to get in the Sun's
Speaker 3: revamped organization in the Ishbia era taking over the franchise
Speaker 3: from Robert Sarver and Matt Ishbia had a press conference
Speaker 3: and denied those reports pretty strenuously, and people around the
Speaker 3: league have continued to whisper since that Isaiah does have
Speaker 3: a very strong advisory voice at the least with Matt.
Speaker 3: Of course we saw him sitting next to Ishba at
Speaker 3: some playoff games. But Chris Paul really kind of put
Speaker 3: the spotlight on it with the way he described it
Speaker 3: to Soapan in this Times piece that that you know,
Speaker 3: he basically made it sound like Isaiah was co making
Speaker 3: these decisions alongside Matt Ishbia. So something tells me that
Speaker 3: we're going to be talking a lot about that as
Speaker 3: we go forward here with the son.
Speaker 4: Chris Paul kind of dropped, kind of dropped the bomb
Speaker 4: there right there. Unexpected a little bomb there right there. Yeah,
Speaker 4: what was not expecting that during his book tour? Was
Speaker 4: not expecting that at all. What I will say about
Speaker 4: Chris Paul, and there's really I believe he has another day.
Speaker 4: I believe tomorrow, which would be Tuesday to day that
Speaker 4: this pot is dropping. He's doing another round of book tours,
Speaker 4: a few more rounds of book tours. So I hope,
Speaker 4: I hope whoever is interviewing him really go ahead ask
Speaker 4: them some questions, ask them some really good questions. I know,
Speaker 4: I know that an interview is about the about the book,
Speaker 4: but you know this, Chris Paul is in the news.
Speaker 4: You got to do your job, journalists, journalists, you gotta
Speaker 4: do your job. Ask some questions, Ask some basketball questions.
Speaker 4: You know, just there's some answers that need to be
Speaker 4: be put out there, and I think Chris Paul has
Speaker 4: a lot of those answers. So I please encourage y'all
Speaker 4: to ask some questions, see what you can get. But
Speaker 4: you know, I think right now you're looking at what
Speaker 4: what is the future for Chris Paul. So I reported yesterday, Well,
Speaker 4: it would have been Sunday that the Los Angeles Clippers
Speaker 4: are trying to get in position two, get a reunion
Speaker 4: going with Chris Paul. So the Clippers right now Marin
Speaker 4: talk with the Wizards, and we don't know if this
Speaker 4: is going to be expanded to a three team trade
Speaker 4: or if this is or if it would be a
Speaker 4: second trade that would get Chris Paul out of Washington.
Speaker 4: Chris Paul would not be a member of the Washington
Speaker 4: Wizards for long. I just don't know if it's going
Speaker 4: to be a part of a three team trade or
Speaker 4: except for the trade or wave or wave.
Speaker 3: Naturally, it behooves the Clippers to try to swoop in
Speaker 3: and complete a trade where they acquire Chris Paul without
Speaker 3: letting him hit the market as an unrestricted free agent.
Speaker 3: If again, the initial the initial word from the Suns
Speaker 3: to the Chris Paul camp was we're going to waive
Speaker 3: you if we can't trade you. They ended up finding
Speaker 3: the trade to where the Suns don't have to make
Speaker 3: that posit that to see.
Speaker 2: But now the Wizards are in the same position.
Speaker 3: They either have to trade Chris Paul between now and
Speaker 3: June twenty eighth, or guarantee his salary for the rest
Speaker 3: of the season knowing Chris Paul wouldn't want to play there,
Speaker 3: or waive him, buy him out, release him, however you
Speaker 3: want to term it.
Speaker 2: So, can the Clippers come.
Speaker 3: Up with a trade to where they acquire Chris Paul
Speaker 3: or are we going to see what? Just you know,
Speaker 3: I would be really interested to see, just out of curiosity,
Speaker 3: Like if Chris actually can negotiate his release and becomes
Speaker 3: a unrestricted free agent, what then happens? You know, is
Speaker 3: it the Lakers? Does he Are the Clippers still an
Speaker 3: option in that scenario? Is there some other team that
Speaker 3: we don't know because Chris Paul is an unrestricted free agent?
Speaker 3: Wouild certainly attract a good amount of interest if you
Speaker 3: have to forecast it. If I forced you to register
Speaker 3: your very educated guess, how do you think it turns out?
Speaker 3: Can the Clippers pull this off by trade or do
Speaker 3: you think he ends up hitting the open market and
Speaker 3: giving the Lakers a.
Speaker 4: Chance to I answered that start. I want to say
Speaker 4: I was very surprised to learn go to State had
Speaker 4: interest in Chris Paul.
Speaker 2: That's right. I left that, I left them out. You're right, good.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought that up, because that's a that
Speaker 2: would be hard.
Speaker 4: That is very hard to man. Yeah, that was that
Speaker 4: was surprising. I was like Chris Paul, I was surprised.
Speaker 4: So so but if if if I'm forced to pick,
Speaker 4: I think the Clippers work out of trade and get
Speaker 4: Chris Paul, and I think the trade would probably have
Speaker 4: to involve Robert Covington deal in that might maybe maybe
Speaker 4: even Marcus Morris, but I think Robert Coventon for sure.
Speaker 4: And so that's that's the way I that's the way
Speaker 4: I envision it planned out.
Speaker 3: And so today I checked to see how what would
Speaker 3: be the chances if the Clippers can pull this off
Speaker 3: and they acquire Chris Paul from Washington via trade, either
Speaker 3: as a separate trade or by becoming the third team
Speaker 3: in this deal. Does that leave any room for Russell
Speaker 3: Westbrook to re sign with the Clippers. The word I
Speaker 3: got from a source close to the process today was
Speaker 3: possibly so. By no means yes, but it was also
Speaker 3: not a no. Do you think could the Clippers have
Speaker 3: a team with both CP and Russ together?
Speaker 4: I think they could. I wouldn't be too confident in
Speaker 4: the I wouldn't be too confident in it working out.
Speaker 4: I just think if you're going to have one of
Speaker 4: those guys on the team, you have to allow them
Speaker 4: to do what they do. I don't know that you
Speaker 4: can have to two point guards. Point guards of that
Speaker 4: point guards that hand the ball a lot, point guards
Speaker 4: that are used to setting up the table. Chris Paul,
Speaker 4: I think, plays better off the ball than Russ. I
Speaker 4: just don't see. I don't see I don't see them
Speaker 4: being able to even at times. I don't see them
Speaker 4: being able to work well together in the back court.
Speaker 4: So it'll be tough. But I think Russ played so
Speaker 4: well for them. He was a big bright spot for
Speaker 4: them towards the end when Kawhi Leonard and Paul George
Speaker 4: went out. You know, he was a great locker room leader.
Speaker 4: He really became the voice of that team the lot
Speaker 4: of stages of that season, and so he does have
Speaker 4: value within that within that ball club on the court
Speaker 4: and what he provides in the locker room. But I
Speaker 4: don't I personally, I wouldn't like it, Starn. I don't
Speaker 4: know what the Clippers are going to do. I really
Speaker 4: don't know how they feel. I haven't really checked on
Speaker 4: it out myself. You say possibly, I mean by them
Speaker 4: just saying possibly, that lets you know they have some
Speaker 4: some form of reservations about having a two on the team.
Speaker 4: But again, some teams believe in that, you know, you
Speaker 4: acquire as much depth as possible, work it out later
Speaker 4: because you know, guys get injured, things happen throughout the
Speaker 4: course of the season. So it's better to have talent
Speaker 4: than not to have talent. So, you know, I guess
Speaker 4: we'll just have to see.
Speaker 3: So before we move on to the draft, let's circle
Speaker 3: back to the Bradley Beal trade, just because there was
Speaker 3: one angle to this that I think we started going
Speaker 3: down that road and we got a little bit derailed.
Speaker 2: And we should cover this.
Speaker 3: So, as Chris put it, you know, Phoenix has gone
Speaker 3: all in whatever it had left in terms terms of
Speaker 3: trade assets to acquire Bradley Beal. They've surrendered it all.
Speaker 3: Now the Sun's basically they cannot make. They cannot have
Speaker 3: a more expensive trio than they have now with Durant
Speaker 3: and Devin Booker and Beal and everything they've given up
Speaker 3: to get Durant and now Beal in there. Miami did
Speaker 3: not go all in with its Bradley Beal pitches, even
Speaker 3: though Miami was thought to be right at the top
Speaker 3: in terms of Bradley Beal's preferred destinations. And with that
Speaker 3: no trade clause that he and Mark Bartlestein negotiated a
Speaker 3: year ago, they had this uncommon control of the trade process.
Speaker 3: The Washington was basically going to have to accept the
Speaker 3: destination that Bradley Beal picked because of that no trade clause,
Speaker 3: the only no trade clause, only full no trade clause
Speaker 3: active in the league at this point, only the tenth
Speaker 3: no trade clause that's ever been nego shed in the NBA,
Speaker 3: because they're really hard to get in the NBA. But look, everybody,
Speaker 3: I think by now understands the working assumption here. The
Speaker 3: belief is that Miami didn't want to go all in
Speaker 3: for Bradley Beale now because on the you know, basically
Speaker 3: waiting out the possibility that Damian Lillard that this would
Speaker 3: be the off season that Damian Lillard actually urges the
Speaker 3: Portland Trailblazers to trade him, because if it gets to
Speaker 3: that point, Miami would be at or near the top
Speaker 3: of Dame's list with Brooklyn and potentially some other destinations.
Speaker 2: But Miami would have an excellent.
Speaker 3: Chance in the Dames sweepstakes. They would be one of
Speaker 3: the betting favorites, no doubt. But I mean, Chris, aren't
Speaker 3: the Heat taking a huge risk here? Because we still
Speaker 3: you know again, we're recording this on Monday night, this
Speaker 3: podcast is dropping Tuesday.
Speaker 2: There is still not a sentilla.
Speaker 3: Oh evidence or hints to point us in the direction
Speaker 3: of thinking that Dame is close to pushing his way out.
Speaker 4: I'll say this, for Miami to take this approach, they
Speaker 4: must feel like they got some sense, some knowledge that
Speaker 4: this could be the offseason that Dame request out, like
Speaker 4: they believe they feel like this could be the year.
Speaker 4: And the reason is Dame has made it clear that
Speaker 4: he wants to compete for a championship. He wants to continue,
Speaker 4: He wants a roster that can get him there. He
Speaker 4: wants that now. He does not want to wait, He
Speaker 4: does not want to go through a rebuild, doesn't want
Speaker 4: to continue to play with younger guys to help them
Speaker 4: grow and get to that point. He wants to win. Now.
Speaker 4: That's why you know, I've been saying this for the
Speaker 4: last couple of weeks. What Portland does with that pick,
Speaker 4: number three pick Thursday's draft, that's going to be so important.
Speaker 4: And we'll see if all indications are Portland is going
Speaker 4: to keep that pick. As of right now, all indications
Speaker 4: are leaning that way, and then Dame will have a
Speaker 4: decision to make at that point. Does he feel comfortable, well,
Speaker 4: you know that that pick being say Scoot Henderson, Does
Speaker 4: he feel comfortable going into another season where you got
Speaker 4: a rookie, rookie coming in, a rookie who's ultimately going
Speaker 4: to be the next franchise point guard for that team
Speaker 4: over the next possibly the next decade. How is he
Speaker 4: going to feel about that? So these are all questions
Speaker 4: that we won't have answers to until after the draft.
Speaker 4: Or until after the Portland makes makes that pick. Portland
Speaker 4: also has a twenty third pick as well. They can
Speaker 4: try to use that twenty third pick and package it
Speaker 4: with Anthony Simons to try to get some help. But
Speaker 4: you know, these are things that we won't know until
Speaker 4: Thursday or after Thursday. So I think that's why that's
Speaker 4: why Miami feels like, you know, if they're going to
Speaker 4: go all in, they want to go all in on
Speaker 4: an all NBA point guard. They feel like that's a
Speaker 4: dire need. That's more of a dire need for that team.
Speaker 4: And you know, I think that's why we saw them
Speaker 4: kind of reverse course on Bradley Beal.
Speaker 3: So how meaningful do you think it is that you know,
Speaker 3: Dame has been seen in the Blazers practice facility and
Speaker 3: it looks like he's taking an interest in Portland's draft
Speaker 3: night machinations.
Speaker 2: I guess that's kind of the curve ball here.
Speaker 4: Okay. I would say that he's there working out himself,
Speaker 4: and that's it. That's what I would say. It happens
Speaker 4: to work out.
Speaker 3: Well, we know we know who the there's only one
Speaker 3: Dame ologist on this podcast.
Speaker 2: If if if.
Speaker 3: We're looking for a dirkologist. Then I think, you know,
Speaker 3: then it's my turn to speak. But when it comes
Speaker 3: to when it comes to Dame ology, we defer to Haines.
Speaker 2: So I'm going with what you read, just my read?
Speaker 2: All right, well your read is very well.
Speaker 4: Say this. My reads often get mistaken for being something
Speaker 4: that Dame told me. That happens a lot if I
Speaker 4: say something my read, my sense what I think a
Speaker 4: lot of people think Dame is telling me this, This
Speaker 4: is my read. I'm telling you. You know, sometimes I talked to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like recently, you were you were either on the
Speaker 3: dam Show or Colin Coward Show, and you were asked,
Speaker 3: you were asked about Boston. You gave your opinion on
Speaker 3: what you would project Dame to do based.
Speaker 2: On covering his whole career.
Speaker 3: It's not like he told you, Chris, will you please,
Speaker 3: will you please register my display.
Speaker 4: We've had convers like I know some you know, some
Speaker 4: of the teams that he would be interested in, Like
Speaker 4: I've known it just for years just being around them,
Speaker 4: so I know how I already know how it feels
Speaker 4: about certain teams or certain cities. And so when DP
Speaker 4: asked me that question, I was able to just be like, nah,
Speaker 4: it's not happening. No, not Boston, not that. I just
Speaker 4: spoke with Dame right now and he told me to
Speaker 4: say that that's just based off of the history and
Speaker 4: the relationship that I have with him, I was able
Speaker 4: to say, nah, I don't see that. I don't see
Speaker 4: that happening. That's it. That's it. So this right here
Speaker 4: is just to read. I know he goes to the PF,
Speaker 4: goes to go work out, and sometimes his workouts coincide
Speaker 4: with when they're bringing in rookies to work out. So
Speaker 4: that's it.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Well, look, this is not the last
Speaker 3: time we will be discussing this subject. By the time
Speaker 3: we do, when we get together for the next pod,
Speaker 3: which will almost certainly be after the draft, will know
Speaker 3: what Portland did with that number three pick. Were they
Speaker 3: able to find a win now trade in the end
Speaker 3: by packaging number three with Anthony Simons and getting Dame
Speaker 3: Lillard some help that's more on his timeline, or if
Speaker 3: the Blazers actually go through with drafting nineteen year old
Speaker 3: Scoot Henderson or twenty year old Brandon Miller, if that's
Speaker 3: what the Blazers do, we'll see, we'll see then how
Speaker 3: Damian Lillard reacts and we won't have to make projections
Speaker 3: and reads.
Speaker 2: All right, let's move on now to the draft.
Speaker 3: Because Chris and I we can talk all day about
Speaker 3: Bradley Beal, about Chris Paul, about Damian Lillard. We didn't
Speaker 3: even get to James Harden and Kyrie Irving. I'm sure
Speaker 3: we will soon. That's our sphere of expertise, but we
Speaker 3: need some help now with what's actually going to be
Speaker 3: going down Thursday night in Brooklyn at the Draft. Neither
Speaker 3: one of us are super super well versed in the
Speaker 3: broad matters of the draft. I've said it a bazillion
Speaker 3: times over the last really two decades. I think covering
Speaker 3: the NBA Draft. To really do it well, you got
Speaker 3: to kind of make it your life. It's a year
Speaker 3: round job in itself. I loved throughout my ESBN years
Speaker 3: fifteen years of ESBN, Chad Ford handled every ounce of
Speaker 3: the draft and I could just kind of swoop in
Speaker 3: at the end for trades.
Speaker 2: And today I am very.
Speaker 3: Lucky, and we are lucky because a good friend of mine,
Speaker 3: my Dallas neighbor, Raphael Barlow, the director of scouting for
Speaker 3: NBA Big Board, which is actually a substack that Chad
Speaker 3: Ford started. Mister Barlow has taken it over, has done
Speaker 3: a tremendous job with it. If you are an NBA draftnick,
Speaker 3: I urge you to check out his substack because he's
Speaker 3: got it all going on there about all the candidates
Speaker 3: for the fifty eight draft slots Thursday night. Of course,
Speaker 3: we won't have sixty players taken. We'll only have fifty
Speaker 3: eight picks in this draft because of some second rounders
Speaker 3: that have been docked for free agent misdeeds. But that's
Speaker 3: a story for another day. Tell us man, ro, it's
Speaker 3: great to have you with us. I know you're already
Speaker 3: in New York. We can hear we can hear you
Speaker 3: the background noise. You're right in the heart of the
Speaker 3: league's official draft hotel where it's all happening.
Speaker 2: Awesome to have you with us, man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you guys for the opportunity. Been listening since
Speaker 5: day one, and I still laugh at the pizza and
Speaker 5: the dogs in the background. So yeah, I'm just glad
Speaker 5: to be on. Thank you for having me on.
Speaker 2: We're gonna try not to I don't know. I can't promise.
Speaker 3: We're going to try to have no Chris Haynes instigated
Speaker 3: incidents in this pody.
Speaker 4: He might beat us today to where he's at. Scoot
Speaker 4: Anderson might pop up from behind him.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, you know if Scoot walks by, if if
Speaker 3: Wenby walks by, and you won't just want to pull
Speaker 3: him into the pod, you know you have a you
Speaker 3: have licensed to do. So let's let's start here. Obviously,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna scoop you right now. Victor wen Minyama is
Speaker 3: going number one on Thursday Night. That we know that,
Speaker 3: we all know that we can promise.
Speaker 2: But it is there.
Speaker 3: Do you see any chance that that someone else infiltrates
Speaker 3: two three and it wouldn't be Brandon Miller or Scoot
Speaker 3: Henderson in those two spots.
Speaker 5: No, I think there. I think it's set. Now which
Speaker 5: order is I don't know. I mean you've heard that
Speaker 5: the Hornets like Brandon Miller, and then now you're starting.
Speaker 6: To hear that they're like school. I did an.
Speaker 5: Interview with one of the I Guess betting sites and
Speaker 5: they said the odds are at Scoot. Now I'm not
Speaker 5: a betting man, but that's what they're saying. But other
Speaker 5: than that, I think the top three are locks. Definitely
Speaker 5: with Weinbyama.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 5: I'm just in the lobby now and I've seen plenty
Speaker 5: of guys when Victorama.
Speaker 6: Spurs Jersey, so I guess they are.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're ready for him to hit Alamo City. But
Speaker 5: like I said, I think one, two, three are locked.
Speaker 5: I just don't know the order for two and three.
Speaker 2: I mean it's Charlotte.
Speaker 3: Obviously, we were told brought in Scoot Henderson and Brandon
Speaker 3: Miller one more time to start this week off? What's
Speaker 3: your best forecast? As you know this is going to
Speaker 3: drop on Tuesday, two days before the draft? What do
Speaker 3: you What do you think Charlotte is really doing?
Speaker 5: Man, I think they're they're really undecided. I personally think
Speaker 5: that Brandon Miller is the better fit, and they may
Speaker 5: have some reservations about school and LaMelo playing together. I
Speaker 5: think if they didn't, then it would be a no brainer.
Speaker 5: But right now, I think they're gonna go with Brandon Miller.
Speaker 5: I think they're gonna entertain, you know, trading to pick
Speaker 5: and see what they can get for it. But I
Speaker 5: think at it on Tuesday night, I'm sorry, Thursday night.
Speaker 5: I think they're gonna go with Brandon Miller.
Speaker 4: I know you can't or be I know, you can't
Speaker 4: predict what's going to happen, what teamers are going to
Speaker 4: move in and swoop in. But as far as what
Speaker 4: you're hearing at the two three slot, do you have
Speaker 4: any pulse on if those teams are two to three
Speaker 4: Charlotte and Portland. Do you have any pulse on if
Speaker 4: they will keep that pick?
Speaker 6: I don't. I mean, I've heard the rumors.
Speaker 5: I had an agent tell me that he thinks that
Speaker 5: the Siakam to Portland rumors. He thinks they're real, whether
Speaker 5: or not they happen or not, but he thinks that
Speaker 5: they're They're definitely kicking.
Speaker 6: The tires there.
Speaker 5: And then we've all heard the rumors about the Hornets
Speaker 5: wanting Zion, and then I've heard Brandon Miller and I'm.
Speaker 6: Sorry, Brandon Negrom.
Speaker 5: It's weird because just a few months ago they were
Speaker 5: talking about this is a great draft, and now we're
Speaker 5: in a situation where teams two, three, full maybe even
Speaker 5: five would.
Speaker 6: Be ready to trade out of the pick.
Speaker 5: So but no, I don't have a post just hearing
Speaker 5: like the rumors that they are open.
Speaker 2: To to possibly.
Speaker 6: Move in the picks.
Speaker 4: How deep is this draft?
Speaker 2: Arf?
Speaker 4: Can talk you talk about that, like how if obviously
Speaker 4: anything can happen, Guys develop and guys blossom and come
Speaker 4: into you know, become something that we didn't intend on.
Speaker 4: But just right now early on, like how deep is
Speaker 4: this draft? You know, Indiana Pacers they're trying to move
Speaker 4: their pick at number seven as well, So like how
Speaker 4: many stars right now? Do you see? I'm not gonna
Speaker 4: hold you to it later on, but it's just right now.
Speaker 5: I think it's more so deep and complimentary guys. I mean,
Speaker 5: even like the worst teams for the Houston or this Detroit,
Speaker 5: they have their their guys already. So I think the
Speaker 5: draft is deep in finding like complimentary pieces that compliment that.
Speaker 6: The stars that they have in place.
Speaker 5: I think as far as stars, i'd say, I mean
Speaker 5: historically picks one, two and three don't all make the
Speaker 5: Star team. I think twenty sixteen was a rare year
Speaker 5: with Ben Simmons and Brandon Ingram and Jalen Brown. I'd
Speaker 5: say maybe four all stars in this class, just being realistic,
Speaker 5: but you just never know.
Speaker 6: I remember twenty twenty, we thought that.
Speaker 5: Was a week class, and I think we overanalyzed it
Speaker 5: because of COVID and how long the process was.
Speaker 6: But if you look at twenty twenty with LaMelo and.
Speaker 5: Anthony Edwards and Halla Burton and Tyrese Maxi, that was
Speaker 5: considered to be a weak class and it turned out
Speaker 5: to be one of the better classes over the past
Speaker 5: few years. So it's kind of hard to predict how
Speaker 5: good this class will be. But I would say four
Speaker 5: all stars.
Speaker 3: I think since last week you've had Bill all Koolibali,
Speaker 3: who is we've seen him as Webin Yama's teammate in
Speaker 3: the French League. You've had him going number nine to
Speaker 3: Utah since last week, higher than most people have projected him.
Speaker 2: What are you seeing out of Wemby's teammate?
Speaker 3: And I mean Utah was a really tough team to
Speaker 3: try to pinpoint what they're gonna do because Danny Ainge
Speaker 3: loves to confuse us all.
Speaker 2: What's kind of led you to rate him so highly?
Speaker 5: Actually, I just talked to someone that was that's pretty
Speaker 5: connected to the situation and I jokingly say, yeah, I
Speaker 5: got him going nine, and they said, oh, he might
Speaker 5: be going higher than that, So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 5: But I just think the trajectory I first saw him
Speaker 5: play eighteen months ago in Paris, and I'm be honest
Speaker 5: with you, I didn't go to Paris to watch Lao
Speaker 5: Kulabali play. I want to go watch Victor play. And
Speaker 5: it just so happened Victor's team because he played for
Speaker 5: as Vil last year.
Speaker 6: They were playing.
Speaker 5: The Metropolitans ninety two and they have like an under
Speaker 5: twenty one league. And I went to that game and
Speaker 5: nobody heard him a loud. I sat there with Mike
Speaker 5: Schmidz from ESPN and we had to go online just
Speaker 5: to find his name.
Speaker 6: And I thought, you know, he had some physical tools
Speaker 6: that he could be in a prospect.
Speaker 5: But in my mind, I'm thinking twenty twenty five draft,
Speaker 5: twenty twenty four at the earliest. And I even went
Speaker 5: to watch him in September this year and I went
Speaker 5: to watch him at the under twenty one game and
Speaker 5: he showed some flashes.
Speaker 6: He had a really good game, and I thought, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 6: this this is that is going to be a first
Speaker 6: round pick in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 5: And I don't think people remember that. When they had
Speaker 5: the WINB Scoot showcase in Vegas back in October, he
Speaker 5: got in that game, Like people don't remember he was
Speaker 5: like a fish out of water.
Speaker 6: But he's just got better and better and better.
Speaker 5: He had some injuries that opened up playing time, and
Speaker 5: then he was trending in the right direction at the
Speaker 5: right time. During the Metropolitans playoff run, he just, I
Speaker 5: mean just turned into a different player with his athleticism
Speaker 5: and his ability to impact games without dominating the ball.
Speaker 5: So I think based off of like how he's developed
Speaker 5: over the last eighteen months, there's some recency bias, but
Speaker 5: he measures well, he's athletic, and so I think that
Speaker 5: is the reason why he's basically go onto in my opinion,
Speaker 5: changed the lottery. He could be one of the guys
Speaker 5: that goes anywhere from maybe six to ten, which is
Speaker 5: something that we would have never talked about maybe two
Speaker 5: months ago, maybe even six weeks.
Speaker 4: Ago, or be that that individual might be the answer
Speaker 4: for my question that I have coming up. But I
Speaker 4: want to ask you look into your crystal ball, who
Speaker 4: would you think would be the still of this draft?
Speaker 4: If you had two candidates to pick from when we're
Speaker 4: talking about this five years later, which guys you think
Speaker 4: has the potential be the steals of this draft?
Speaker 6: I'd say one is Blad Black Gulabali.
Speaker 5: Obviously he has the exposure just because he's played with
Speaker 5: win Byama.
Speaker 6: I would say Gigi Jackson.
Speaker 5: Gigi is interesting because he was the number one player
Speaker 5: in his high school class. He reclassified up, and you
Speaker 5: can make a case and say it could have been
Speaker 5: a mistake because.
Speaker 6: Twenty twenty four class is considered to be weak.
Speaker 5: If he stays in his normal draft class, then he
Speaker 5: could have been at a top five pick.
Speaker 6: There are some concerns about maturity.
Speaker 5: He's an eighteen year old kid that started the season
Speaker 5: off at seventeen. I think that just as far as
Speaker 5: just talent wise, I think he's a top ten talent
Speaker 5: in his draft. But I think honestly that reclassifying up
Speaker 5: hurt him as far as like the maturity and developmental stage.
Speaker 5: I think basically skipped the step. But I think that
Speaker 5: a team probably selects him late in the first round,
Speaker 5: and if he develops, I think he could end up
Speaker 5: being like the guy that GMS five years later. Like Man,
Speaker 5: we saw the talent, we just were scared to take
Speaker 5: that risk. So those are my two.
Speaker 3: Rafael Barlow, the director of scouting for NBA Big Board,
Speaker 3: our special guest here on this League uncut helping us
Speaker 3: preview Thursday's NBA draft because he has studied all of them,
Speaker 3: these guys, that's his full time gig. I noticed on
Speaker 3: your latest mock draft that came out Monday, you had
Speaker 3: Taylor Hendrix at number twelve going to the Thunder. Has
Speaker 3: he slipped some has he you know? Has he has?
Speaker 3: Is he falling out of the top ten? Is that
Speaker 3: kind of the chatter and buzz that you've been hearing.
Speaker 5: No, not necessarily, Well, I say that if he is,
Speaker 5: it's not because he's done anything to fall I just
Speaker 5: think that Blao has moved up and has blumped somebody down.
Speaker 5: And then I think Derek Lively, who I've been high
Speaker 5: on for the last few months. I think that Lively
Speaker 5: has really turned the corner and had some really good workouts.
Speaker 6: Seven to one.
Speaker 5: He's up to two thirty five now. And he didn't
Speaker 5: shoot the ball really at all at Duke, only average
Speaker 5: five points per game, but just was dominant defensively in
Speaker 5: the second half of the year.
Speaker 6: And then he had a Pro Day where he knocked
Speaker 6: down fourteen threes in a row.
Speaker 5: He showed some flashes, have been able to knock down
Speaker 5: open shots at the prep levels, but thinking in some
Speaker 5: of the pro days, in the individual workouts, he's shown
Speaker 5: that the touch is real, and so I think some
Speaker 5: teams may see him as a guy that's ready to
Speaker 5: come in and contribute right away on the glass from
Speaker 5: the defensive end and then could be like this versatile
Speaker 5: rim protector, vertical lop threat, slash picking pop threat down
Speaker 5: the line.
Speaker 6: So I think Lively is more of another.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad you brought him up, because, again, as
Speaker 3: I've noted many times about myself, I don't do a
Speaker 3: lot of draft coverage. But I did have a Derek
Speaker 3: Lively note in my Monday notebook because more than one
Speaker 3: team I've I guess because I'm based in Dallas and
Speaker 3: I've covered the Mavericks for so long, these teams felt
Speaker 3: like they wanted to share this with me. But I've
Speaker 3: been hearing all these Tyson Chandler comparisons, and he's Tyson
Speaker 3: to two point zero. I mean, how realistic do you
Speaker 3: think it is that he could live up to that?
Speaker 5: You know, honestly, that was my prediction coming into the season.
Speaker 5: I thought he first of all, physically, he kind of
Speaker 5: looks like like Tyson.
Speaker 6: As far as just like the dimensions.
Speaker 5: And then if you remember, Tyson was like a great
Speaker 5: offensive player in high school, but then he just kind
Speaker 5: of settled into this role in the NBA as you know,
Speaker 5: your live threat. And I felt like I wouldn't be
Speaker 5: surprised if Lively just kind of settles into this role
Speaker 5: as just a vertical lob threat, the guy that plays
Speaker 5: at the dunker spot. But there are similarities there, and
Speaker 5: I think that it's fair.
Speaker 6: It's fair, especially if you live in Dallas.
Speaker 5: And of course people in Dallas are always gonna remember
Speaker 5: Tyson from being on the championship teams. But I do
Speaker 5: think that the buzz would Lively to Dallas. I think
Speaker 5: it is legit.
Speaker 4: I think it's real legit. RB. Can you take us
Speaker 4: behind the scenes with you being there in New York,
Speaker 4: you being there with with all the draft prospects, the
Speaker 4: top guys, agents, executives. How will your board in the
Speaker 4: next two days lead up to the draft? How will
Speaker 4: your board change? Would it be dramatic change it from
Speaker 4: now to then? And like, what what do you hear
Speaker 4: in the next two days that would initiate you moving
Speaker 4: guys up or down? He's walk us through, like what
Speaker 4: these next two days are like for you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean this is my first, my first time
Speaker 5: being in New York at the draft, and of course
Speaker 5: you know when you hear things, you gotta take away
Speaker 5: to figure what's coming from. The agents are probably gonna
Speaker 5: tell me that their guy is moving up and so on.
Speaker 5: I mean, right now, I think my board is solid.
Speaker 5: I mean, as I'm saying this, NASTI the Thompson Twins,
Speaker 5: they just they just pulled up, but they just pulled
Speaker 5: it behind me. But I think my board is solid.
Speaker 5: But I do think it can change if some trades
Speaker 5: are made. So I think, like, for example, if Detroit
Speaker 5: moves up to two, I'm just throwing something out that
Speaker 5: I don't think they're gonna select school. I think they're
Speaker 5: going for Brandon Miller just because it just makes the
Speaker 5: most sense there. But I think it's I mean, it's
Speaker 5: pretty solid. I mean can be fluid here and there,
Speaker 5: especially after.
Speaker 6: The lottery, but I think the lottery is pretty solid.
Speaker 3: Among the Thompson twins. How much competition is there amongst
Speaker 3: the two of them, You think.
Speaker 5: Well, it's funny because like on draft Twitter and on
Speaker 5: mock boards, you hear that amen is higher. But just
Speaker 5: from teams that I've talked to, they don't really see
Speaker 5: that much of a difference. A Sword is not the
Speaker 5: one that gets all the attention, but he is the
Speaker 5: two time MVP of the Overtime Elite League.
Speaker 6: He's the better shooter of the two, not by much.
Speaker 5: I mean, they both have their their issue shooting, but
Speaker 5: he's the better shooter, and some feel like he's the
Speaker 5: better defender. And even if you look at their passing stats,
Speaker 5: even though one played more so on the ball and
Speaker 5: another off the ball, the difference between their assist numbers
Speaker 5: is like six point one to six point two. But
Speaker 5: Amen is like a phenomenal athlete. He may be the
Speaker 5: best athlete in the NBA next season. So I think
Speaker 5: that's why some think that he has the higher upside.
Speaker 5: But honestly, I do not think that there's much of
Speaker 5: a difference. And I also think that a sword his
Speaker 5: best position is as a primary brought him or too.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, we've talked about almost everybody in the
Speaker 3: top in well maybe not almost everybody. We've talked about
Speaker 3: several lottery names here without getting into Wemby.
Speaker 2: We saved him for last.
Speaker 3: You've obviously seen him many more times in person than
Speaker 3: Chris or I, how would you grade his NBA readiness
Speaker 3: today and what do you think we'll see in Summer League,
Speaker 3: because it sounds like I spoke to someone who kind
Speaker 3: of had a feel for san Antonio's expectations and they
Speaker 3: were hopeful that he's going to play some portion of
Speaker 3: Summer League, probably the veguest portion rather than Sacramento. And
Speaker 3: then I think we've all seen the clip of him
Speaker 3: talking after his last game in the French Finals where
Speaker 3: he was asked if he plans to play Summer League
Speaker 3: and he said a little bit, just I guess paint
Speaker 3: your picture of what you've seen from when Minyama to
Speaker 3: this point and what we're going to see here in
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks in Vegas.
Speaker 5: A funny story, my first time saying when Mayama was
Speaker 5: actually on my wedding night. So I got married in
Speaker 5: Paris and me and my wife got married at the
Speaker 5: Eiffel Tower. So we had to do it at like
Speaker 5: six o'clock in the morning to make sure there was
Speaker 5: nobody in our in our photo shots, and the game
Speaker 5: was at nine o'clock, so I'm like, hey, you know
Speaker 5: there's a game at later on tonight at nine pm.
Speaker 5: You want to go check this with Miyama kid out,
Speaker 5: And I mean I knew my wife would say yes,
Speaker 5: and so look to the game.
Speaker 4: We got a rider. Yeah, I gotta keep for sure.
Speaker 2: It was year, what year? How long ago was that?
Speaker 5: This was twenty twenty one, so this was this was
Speaker 5: last season and so yeah, we went to the game
Speaker 5: and of course he picks up two fouls in like
Speaker 5: the first four minutes, and you know, she was enjoying
Speaker 5: the experience because it was her first time in Paris
Speaker 5: and so on. But it wasn't until the showcase game
Speaker 5: against School in October but she thought like.
Speaker 6: Oh, you're a you're ahead, like you're really good at this.
Speaker 5: And so, I mean, everybody knew that that he was special,
Speaker 5: but for my wife, she could tell her friends that
Speaker 5: I saw win Beyama like two years before he made
Speaker 5: it to the NBA.
Speaker 6: Bady.
Speaker 5: I've seen him play, I want to say five times now,
Speaker 5: and the jump that he made from last year to
Speaker 5: this year has been incredible. It's I wouldn't say it's
Speaker 5: the Luca Doncies jump that he made from seventeen season
Speaker 5: to eighteen seasons, but it's pretty close. Dodgers's competition was
Speaker 5: a lot tougher, but I think when Beyama is ready
Speaker 5: on the defensive end, as far as his impact, He's
Speaker 5: definitely gonna struggle with physicality early on. But I think
Speaker 5: that he's going to even be better in the NBA
Speaker 5: because the spacing gets better, the game is longer.
Speaker 6: Of course, he's gonna.
Speaker 5: End up getting superstar calls, so it can add another
Speaker 5: two to three points to his points per game.
Speaker 6: But I think he's ready. It's just unfair.
Speaker 5: The expectations are so high, and we've never seen the
Speaker 5: league put a guy on the NBA app before he's
Speaker 5: played a game.
Speaker 2: And he seems to want it. Though.
Speaker 3: Does he seems to want the hype and the and
Speaker 3: the attention.
Speaker 6: I don't know, because I've heard that he's had every.
Speaker 5: Endorsement opportunity in the world and he hasn't signed anything.
Speaker 5: I've heard that he's had so many opportunities to be
Speaker 5: a pitch man, and he has just no plans to
Speaker 5: to really pitch products.
Speaker 6: Or anything like that. He just wants to play. But
Speaker 6: I think that I don't know.
Speaker 5: I think it's a combination of him wanting to be
Speaker 5: out there, but also do it in small steps, but
Speaker 5: I just think he's he's he's ready. Like I said,
Speaker 5: the expectations are ridiculous, but I think he's ready to
Speaker 5: come in and contribute right away.
Speaker 3: I mean, they played Monaco in the French League finals,
Speaker 3: and obviously Monaco a euro League team, a successful euro
Speaker 3: League team, and Ton, I mean when they have seven
Speaker 3: former NBA players, yet had a feeling that the physicality
Speaker 3: and that series would be an issue. What did you
Speaker 3: see in that series? Any reason for concern or I mean, look,
Speaker 3: I think the European game, you can be more physical
Speaker 3: than you're gonna be able to in the NBA.
Speaker 6: So you know, I wasn't reason for concern.
Speaker 5: I mean you're talking about the Metropolitans ninety two teams
Speaker 5: that you can say two of their three best players
Speaker 5: were a nineteen year old and an eighteen year old, right,
Speaker 5: And the Monico team that's Mike James, who's a legend
Speaker 5: in Europe. I think he's like Europe's I think he's
Speaker 5: one of the off time leading scores for American players.
Speaker 6: Manton Units is on that team.
Speaker 3: I mean, call Jordan Lloyd and then you know, I
Speaker 3: know I'm leaving a boss in game, and they got
Speaker 3: a lot of x NBA guys on that team.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so no, there's there's definitely no reasons to be concerned.
Speaker 5: And then you know, the Metropolitans had some injury, so
Speaker 5: they're not even playing with the I mean, it had
Speaker 5: some late additions, so I wouldn't be too concerned about it.
Speaker 5: I just think that it's amazing that you got a
Speaker 5: team that went that far being led by teenagers.
Speaker 2: No, that's fair, point, makes sense. And listen, I'm so glad.
Speaker 3: I know you're swamped out there in New York and
Speaker 3: you're right in the heart of the draft beast. I'm
Speaker 3: really glad that we found a way to track you
Speaker 3: down connect bring you on here to help us sound
Speaker 3: a little smarter about the draft. Rafeae Al Barlow again, folks,
Speaker 3: director of scouting for NBA Big Board, a wonderful sub
Speaker 3: stack that this time of year especially, I consult daily
Speaker 3: to try to get a better handle on what we're
Speaker 3: going to be seeing Thursday night, and I urge.
Speaker 2: You to check it out.
Speaker 3: And also, he has a podcast, an NBA big Board Podcast,
Speaker 3: where he's covering this material all the time, five pods
Speaker 3: a week, making us, making us man, we gotta we
Speaker 3: might have to step it up.
Speaker 4: Oh no, not like that, like that.
Speaker 5: Five we get after this, Angelia, thank you for squeezing
Speaker 5: us in.
Speaker 2: Have a great time all week out.
Speaker 3: There in New York, and really enjoy Thursday night. It
Speaker 3: should be a special. It's gonna be. I think it's
Speaker 3: gonna be a really interesting evening because obviously number one,
Speaker 3: we know what's gonna happen. But I feel like from
Speaker 3: from two on, we we we could have some some surprises,
Speaker 3: some trades, some action, so it should be it should
Speaker 3: be interesting.
Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely, thanks for having me on. I really appreciate
Speaker 5: this opportunity. Thanks that I followed you guys for years
Speaker 5: and so it's it's it's actually cool for me to
Speaker 5: be on a podcast with with you guys.
Speaker 6: So thank you again.
Speaker 2: We will do it again sometime for sure.
Speaker 4: For sure.
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