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Speaker 5: So I'm looking up I'm looking up Bob Einstein.

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Speaker 4: He would get in a conversation with you for thirty minutes.

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Speaker 3: That's the idea behind us getting back together and doing

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Speaker 3: I want to have everyone who has memories, good or bad.

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Speaker 4: From that bar.

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Speaker 3: We didn't have the Dolphins games on seven ninety Yes,

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Speaker 3: pregame show. We'll call it the Fake Pregame Show. We'll

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Speaker 4: It was very disjointed.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if there's I don't know if there's

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Speaker 4: I'm also, I believe, the only one who.

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Speaker 3: Got paid because I remember sitting in Kurt Murphy's office,

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Speaker 4: Know what I think.

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Speaker 3: I won't give you the exact numbers, but I think

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Speaker 2: Well, that's why you got paid.

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Speaker 3: And I remember sitting in Murph's office that was our

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Speaker 4: And he's like, fuck it.

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Speaker 2: Did you sprint?

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Speaker 3: That's sprinted? But I don't know how many people remember

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Speaker 3: I don't want it to be a typical pregame. I

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Speaker 4: I want it to be me.

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Speaker 1: And so, well, listen, there's no way you're getting Dan

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Speaker 3: Although I have a feeling that you thought you'd be

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Speaker 2: I absolutely did.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, But what it ended up becoming.

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: So we were already at each other's throats because it

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Speaker 4: Nobody wanted to be there.

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Speaker 3: It was just like it was just everyone was doing

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Speaker 4: I didn't, Well, do you know what so very popular?

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Speaker 2: I wish I walked in the merse office it has

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Speaker 3: You can go back and probably look at when this

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Speaker 3: Dan hasn't seen it, and I'm saying, this is live

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Speaker 4: Yes, And He's like, how bad can it be? Just

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Speaker 1: Well, I remember the conversation, and I remember supporting you

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Speaker 3: I'm like like, hey, let's yeah, let's let's not just

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Speaker 3: And good god, if you've ever seen that video or

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Speaker 3: your license. It's nothing that should ever be broadcast during

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Speaker 4: He said, I'm going home. He in a huff.

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Speaker 3: He was angry that the show had evolved into whatever

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Speaker 4: But this is the stuff again.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to meanindsight that's unprofessional. You just you

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Speaker 1: He bailed on me a radio row at Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Let me with Michael Strahan to myself.

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Speaker 2: I mean, out of.

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Speaker 3: All the things that I just told you, we played

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Speaker 3: it's funny though you talk about radio row. So you

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00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,479
Speaker 3: and I we love sports media. It's why when we

445
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 3: do get together for lunch over avocado toast and a

446
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:17,200
Speaker 3: latte or cappuccino, we can talk for hours just about

447
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,639
Speaker 3: radio and media and the and the Levotard Show and

448
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:25,639
Speaker 3: our own personal memories of things. So I remember the

449
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 3: first radio row that I ever did with Dan. I

450
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,119
Speaker 3: guess it was the one in Miami, right, so we

451
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Speaker 3: started in four was probably oh six?

452
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Speaker 4: Is that one?

453
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Speaker 2: It was down in Miami.

454
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Speaker 1: I thought the first one we did together was Now

455
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:38,879
Speaker 1: it could be wrong here, but I thought it was

456
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Speaker 1: in Jacksonville.

457
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:41,359
Speaker 4: You might be right, Yeah, Yeah, I.

458
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 1: Think it was in Jacksonville, and that's where we met

459
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,399
Speaker 1: Frank Caliendo, who became a big part.

460
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Speaker 2: Of our Live Jack show. Yeah yeah, yeah.

461
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 4: But I remember walking around Radio Row and Dan for years.

462
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,639
Speaker 3: I shouldn't say years, because we probably weren't doing the

463
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 3: show for years at that point, but for months leading

464
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 3: up to it, was talking about how he hates Radio Row.

465
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,120
Speaker 3: Still I'm sure does the same the same stick, right,

466
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 3: he hates Radio Row.

467
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:06,120
Speaker 2: I can't stand it.

468
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 3: And I remember walking in there and I love Radio Row,

469
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,439
Speaker 3: and I I because I love media.

470
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 4: I love radio.

471
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 3: I love all the personalities who are involved. I love

472
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 3: And we ran into.

473
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:21,400
Speaker 4: Bill Simmons, and Bill Simmons was doing ESPN stuff and

474
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 4: he was.

475
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Speaker 2: The sports guy.

476
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:27,160
Speaker 3: He was the sports guy Page two, Yes, and we're

477
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 3: sitting there. I remember talking to him in the big,

478
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 3: you know, conference hall, and I'm telling Simmons, you know,

479
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 3: Dan's like, I fucking hate this thing.

480
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 4: This is disgusting. All the people in here are gross.

481
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 2: Now.

482
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Speaker 1: Dan covered it as a journalist for the Herald for many,

483
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Speaker 1: many years, so that's why he knew the super Bowl

484
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 1: was not a place he wanted to be.

485
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Speaker 3: Right now, I never, I never, as long as i've

486
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 3: done it. I've never gotten tired of it. But yeah,

487
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 3: so what he's saying, Taylor Jacksonville was five.

488
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, five, that was our first Super Bowl together. Yeah,

489
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Speaker 2: I think it was five.

490
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Speaker 1: So so you and I are in heaven. We're at home,

491
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 1: like this is exactly where we want to fuck.

492
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:05,919
Speaker 3: I'm standing there talking with Simmons and Dan and Tans

493
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 3: like this place sucks and I can't believe we have

494
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 3: to do shows here and this is awful. It's the

495
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 3: worst of humanity. And I'm telling Simmons, I don't feel

496
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 3: that way at all. I said to me, this is

497
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:21,640
Speaker 3: like walking into a casino. I go the vibe here, Yeah,

498
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 3: I can't get enough of it. It's energy, it's noise,

499
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 3: there's action, people are trying to make their fortune like

500
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 3: in a casino. And I remember Bill Simmons being just like, really,

501
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 3: that's how you feel about this, and I'm like totally.

502
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 4: And by the way, I've never lost that feeling about

503
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 4: Radio Row.

504
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 3: But Bill Bill Simmons used me in a page two

505
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 3: column the next day, talked about Mark Hawkman, a producer

506
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 3: I don't even think I had an on air voice

507
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 3: at that time, likened Radio Row to being you know

508
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 3: the vibe and energy of a Vegas casino. Yes, during

509
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 3: and I still like to me that's part of the

510
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 3: fun of talking about.

511
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 4: The show and media and sports media. I love it.

512
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 4: I love everything about sports media. You do as well.

513
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 3: I used to when I was program director at seven

514
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 3: ninety The Ticket. I used to have an issue sometimes

515
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 3: with Dan and Boog about how much they would shit

516
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 3: on the medium, And I would go, why do you

517
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 3: keep shitting on radio? Because radio gives you so much

518
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 3: freedom to do what you want to do, way more

519
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:33,199
Speaker 3: freedom than a newspaper. We're broadcasting a game. There's this

520
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 3: inherent freedom in radio that no other medium can provide

521
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 3: a personality, but they loved but it is the lowest

522
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 3: rung of show business.

523
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Speaker 4: I get that. But they would love to shit on radio.

524
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 3: And I've always been a big defender of the medium

525
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 3: because I love radio.

526
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we love radio, and we love the idea,

527
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 1: we love talk radio. We love all the parts kind

528
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: of fitting in and working together. It was funny because

529
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Speaker 1: at that time, when Dan was saying that and shitting

530
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: on radio, journal still mattered, and so he was doing both.

531
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Speaker 1: He was writing for The Herald, and it felt like

532
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: at the very beginning. It did feel like we were

533
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 1: twisting Dan's arm to make him do something he didn't

534
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: want to do, because he really didn't like the idea

535
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: of doing sports radio and taking phone calls, which is

536
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 1: why our show ended up being as different and unique

537
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: as we could possibly make it.

538
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 2: But Dan did not like it.

539
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 1: Now I don't know what Boog's excuse was, but Lebitzar

540
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 1: did not like sports radio. It served them both very well,

541
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 1: which is really fucking fascinating and interesting. You know the

542
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: same thing.

543
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 4: When you walk on Radio Row. You walk on Radio Row,

544
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 4: they're treating you like a kig Listen.

545
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 1: I think the great one from anyone. I think the

546
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: casino analogy is perfect. It's the first time I've heard

547
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: you say that, because when you walk into the casino,

548
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: you walk in, there's that feeling, you feel the energy.

549
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 2: Anything could happen.

550
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: He could walk out with a million dollars, you could

551
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: walk out broke right. And when you walk into Radio Row,

552
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: guess that you wouldn't normally get.

553
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 4: They might be on your show today.

554
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 2: They also might not, you know.

555
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,479
Speaker 3: I remember the most recent Radio Row I was at

556
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago. I'm watching the old Spice man.

557
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 3: You know the guy, the old Spice guy who rides

558
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 3: the horse.

559
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 1: He co hosted the show with me and Billy last year.

560
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 1: I mean I watched him, and that's what Radio Row

561
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: was all about.

562
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 4: I mean I watched him have a.

563
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 3: Casual conversation with doctor Oz, just like off to the side.

564
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 4: It was like it was like old Spice.

565
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 3: Man, Doctor Oz, Yes, and Peter Schrager?

566
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 2: Yes? When does that ever happen? Right?

567
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 4: You never see that, but that's part of that.

568
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 3: To me, was like spinning the slots, yes and going wow,

569
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 3: it just came on three lemons, like.

570
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: The only other place that could possibly happen where those

571
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 1: where those three are having a conversation. You're right, You're

572
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: so right about this is the Bolagio in Vegas.

573
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 3: The only places like magical thing like what happens in

574
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 3: Vegas stays in Vegas.

575
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 4: What happens at Radio Row stays at Radio Row.

576
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: I was in Vegas for Dead and Company at this fear,

577
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 1: and I was getting breakfast in the morning and who

578
00:26:58,640 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 1: walked right by me?

579
00:26:59,560 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 2: Coach?

580
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 4: I mean, does that happen Radio Row? Who can hate

581
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 4: Radio Row? A lot of me? I spent the entire

582
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 4: Radio Row in Miami. The most recent one, I think

583
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 4: was the most recent one.

584
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,199
Speaker 3: The late great John Clayton was doing his show in

585
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 3: Seattle next to us, and all I did, and Clayton

586
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 3: used to come out with us every week being crowder,

587
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 3: But all I did for three days of Radio Row

588
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 3: was here Clayton piss and moan about how terrible the

589
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 3: food offerings were at this at this radio row. And

590
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 3: that was delightful to me. I'm like, this is what

591
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 3: a great moment. John Clayton's pissed and what they're offering

592
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 3: for free food.

593
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 2: I got to tell you, the food spread never seemed

594
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 2: to bother.

595
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 3: Peter Kake, I mean, do you remember there's actual a

596
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 3: video that you that was one of my few run

597
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 3: ins with Dan show. You guys had a setup there

598
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 3: in Miami, like a whole big setup, and you guys

599
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 3: had ESPN food.

600
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 4: And and you were sneaking it to me.

601
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 3: You were just there's video of me standing behind the set.

602
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 3: You guys are doing something and I'm just eating food

603
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 3: because the food John Clayton, to his credit, was completely right.

604
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 3: The food was shit. Yeah, but the ESPN spread had

605
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 3: really good food, and you were kind enough to sneak

606
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 3: me some.

607
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 1: There were times when we went to the super Bowl

608
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: because when you and I went there first time Jacksonville,

609
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: we were a local station, kind of on the fringes

610
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: with the other local stations. I thought about you many

611
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 1: times once we arrived at ESPN and you were no

612
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: longer a part of the show when we were, because

613
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: you would have loved this hot vibe, Like yeah, that

614
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: one would have loved it morean There's one thing being

615
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: at Radio Row and being a local show. It's a

616
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: totally different experience when you show up with ESPN right.

617
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 4: Big stage, all the guests.

618
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 3: Great, You've got your own men, your own security or whatever.

619
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 3: In the meantime, though, I'm sitting between you know, Nasty

620
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 3: Nate from Baltimore and.

621
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 4: The Bone in New Orleans, the Bone in the Bone.

622
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 2: I love radio.

623
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 4: I love radio as well. So anyway, that's the concept.

624
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 3: Of the reunion between me and Stu Gotts is talking

625
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 3: radio Levatard Show, Benny from Fort Lauderdale, Mean gen Oakerland Calliendo.

626
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 4: I could give you Craig Gas stories. We could do.

627
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: We could do it into Craig Gas. We could do

628
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: God did he hog the microphone?

629
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 2: We could do we could do its.

630
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: Higher episode on my first question to Chuck Norris.

631
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 3: Like, it's almost like Simmons rewatchables, right, and you can

632
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 3: take something like that, yes, and just go through because

633
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 3: and that one has been we.

634
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 2: Can't get back to it. It doesn't mean we can't relive it.

635
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 3: That's essentially, but to reltigate something like that because and

636
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 3: I know it's been mentioned before, Dan never went to

637
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 3: you for the first opening sell vote.

638
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 4: You always had time to get your shit together.

639
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: We had buil up Chuck Norris to a place where

640
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: Levittar was so nervous he threw it.

641
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 4: To me for the first fucking question.

642
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: Was wild?

643
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 4: Was such a such a great moment?

644
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 3: All right, we're going to see whether these any of

645
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 3: these here can crack Chuck Norris's top ten.

646
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 4: Now, your favorite involves the Tyrannosaurus Rex. You want to

647
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 4: do yours?

648
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

649
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: That uh, Chuck Norris was chasing the Tyrannosaurus Rex.

650
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 2: The rex was not chasing the jeep okay in Jurassic Park.

651
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 2: Way to screw that up, I'm kind of blind tied

652
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 2: to know your throw. That's my fault. What it was

653
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 2: way to deliver that one. Goodness, start that way and I've.

654
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 4: Got all this audio, I've got all this audios. I no,

655
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 4: did I choke?

656
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: I mean I choked, But it did stop me from

657
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: calling every athlete for the next seventeen years a choker.

658
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 3: I say that the crowder on my show all the

659
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 3: time I go. You constantly talk about them not being

660
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 3: prepared in the huddle or they don't have the play

661
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 3: call on time I go. But you can't mike yourself.

662
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 3: You never remember to turn your mic on. So you

663
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 3: start every segment and you're talking and no one hears you.

664
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 3: Don't you feel at least a slightly bit embarrassed.

665
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 4: And He's like, no, not at all. And that was

666
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter how many mistakes we make.

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00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: Yes, my mistakes became Listen, the more mistakes I made,

668
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: the better it was for the show. So Hawk, I

669
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: do have a few questions here. We are committing to

670
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: doing this? Yeah, how many days a week?

671
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 4: We're doing three shows a week?

672
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I'll tell her you good with that.

673
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 2: I'm good with it.

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00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 5: Hak He's gonna do this thing where he acts like

675
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 5: he's like this brick mason, like the most taxing job

676
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:39,959
Speaker 5: on his body.

677
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 2: This is bad. I got a lot going on with

678
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 2: a microphone and talking.

679
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: Listen, there's only so many words coming out of this

680
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: mouth per day, okay.

681
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 2: I mean it's.

682
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 3: Literally the conversations we've been having at the Turtle at listen.

683
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 4: I'm Howard just doing it in front of a microphone.

684
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 4: I'm happy to do it.

685
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 2: Another question, though, can we do this? I don't know.

686
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 3: I'll get board of it at some point, so will you.

687
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 3: But as long as there are a few people listen,

688
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 3: it's niche I think. I don't know if there's huge

689
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 3: appeal or non. I honestly don't know. I know that

690
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 3: people still, you know, tweet me all the time. I know,

691
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 3: with really Gil leaving, people have been tweeting me like, oh,

692
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 3: maybe you're going back, Maybe you're going back, But no,

693
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 3: I'm not.

694
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 4: I'm telling you. It's to me, it's the Van Halen thing.

695
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 3: It's like yet Sammy and Michael Anthony and you're Sammy,

696
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 3: I'm Michael Anthony, and we're just kind of playing some

697
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 3: hits and having fun because at some point we won't

698
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 3: be able to do it anymore.

699
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 2: I think we relive.

700
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: I think we relive the Lebotard Show and our roles

701
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: on it and some of the great stories, but also

702
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: talk about sports media and what it's you know, where

703
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: we're at right now with twenty.

704
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 2: And twenty five. I don't think we just have to

705
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 2: do our show.

706
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: I do think we could do some things like I

707
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: have an idea, Huk every Wednesday, I would like to

708
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: do city by city the Mount Rushmore. So we could

709
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: start in Miami. Let's say next week, okay, or in November.

710
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: Whenever we start this show, do the Mount Rushmore of

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00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: sports radio in every city.

712
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: You know, I'm in.

713
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 4: I love the Mount rush More more than any Mount

714
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 4: Hawk Bore.

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00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I'm in.

716
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 4: I'm in, and I love you know, I love sports media.

717
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 3: Would Levittard go on your Mount Rushmore of sports media

718
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 3: in Miami? What's the parameters? I mean actual on air terrestrial.

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Speaker 2: Radio For me in Miami, there.

720
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: Is one guy that is firmly entrenched one guy, and

721
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: that's Hank Goldberg.

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00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: Hank Goldberg, of course he is now.

723
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: So I don't know what to do with Neil Rogers

724
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: because he wasn't really a sports talk host, but he

725
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: was a great talk show hose, but he.

726
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 2: Was on a sports station. Jim Mandich is certainly in.

727
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 4: That conversation Rose Eddie Caplan.

728
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: But do I go Joe Rose? Eddie Kaplan was so

729
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: ahead of his time. Eddie Kaplan was the god of

730
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: nighttime talk radio. He was fantastic and.

731
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: I would put it in the games.

732
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: Yes, he was the fucking sports book, right, But do

733
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: you go Joe Rose or do you know the first Team?

734
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: Because Joe Rose was part of a show on five

735
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: sixty Morning?

736
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: How long Diversity Team last?

737
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 4: Joe Rose has been doing it for twenty five years?

738
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 4: Like how long was first Team?

739
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 2: Mom? Uh? First Takes? First Take? The first Team was

740
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 2: on for like seven or eight years.

741
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 4: I think there was Defo, Goldie and Joe.

742
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 2: It was it was Joe Rose, Jeff DeForrest and Goldie. Yeah,

743
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 2: it's a good show.

744
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 4: That is a good show.

745
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 3: Joe Rose is firmly entrenched there though. It has to

746
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,720
Speaker 3: be longevity for no other reason.

747
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 2: So Eddie k is awesome. I feel like, you know,

748
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 2: I don't know.

749
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: This is interesting because Orlando Alzegary could be on there.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of names.

751
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: I know.

752
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 4: I know, listen, I've been doing afternoon Drive on QAM

753
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 4: for over a decade.

754
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: You might, well, that's the thing with Lebitzard and myself

755
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: for that matter.

756
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 4: I'm not certain we were local long enough, you know,

757
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 4: I don't know.

758
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 2: I don't know. All right, well, we'll do it. We're

759
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 2: in like it. But here, so you have a name

760
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 2: for the show.

761
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 3: Hawk if anyone wants to suggest, I know who would

762
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 3: have made it this far into this particular podcast. But

763
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 3: if anyone wants to suggest Lebotard show memories or ideas

764
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 3: that you would like like to hear us talk about

765
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 3: or explain further, DM me on Instagram. I don't use

766
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 3: Twitter much anymore, so DM me on Instagram. It's Radio

767
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 3: Mark Hakman on Instagram. There is a Mark Hakman on Instagram.

768
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 4: It's me.

769
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 3: I didn't know it was me, so I then couldn't

770
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,959
Speaker 3: sign in one day, and so I made Radio Mark

771
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 3: Hakman several years ago, and so that's the one that

772
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 3: I use.

773
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 4: But you could DM me if you have ideas.

774
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 3: For or what you'd like to hear us talk about,

775
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 3: or who you'd like to hear us talk to, because

776
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 3: I love Wow, there's a bunch.

777
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 4: Of people I'd love to have on.

778
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 2: Do we have a name for the show, so we have.

779
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 4: A working title, but I don't I don't want to

780
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 4: reveal it.

781
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, you don't want to reveal it, Okay, but

782
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: we are committing to doing.

783
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 2: A show here.

784
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: I just I don't want the audience. The audience is

785
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: going to be very excited about this. You know, our

786
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,439
Speaker 1: audience is going to be very well.

787
00:35:58,520 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 2: I don't know.

788
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 4: I don't know if they.

789
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 2: Clamoring for this since we stopped doing two A days,

790
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: I mean they had.

791
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 4: I I know I enjoy it. I know I enjoy it.

792
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 3: I enjoy talking about it because it's such great memories,

793
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 3: and like I say, I enjoy the medium. So I

794
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 3: don't know if people will enjoy it as much as

795
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 3: we think they will.

796
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 4: But we'll find out.

797
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 3: I mean, if people don't enjoy it and there's no

798
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 3: audience for it, then you and I will just have

799
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 3: those conversations and Italiano while I'm eating an avocado toes.

800
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what, We're gonna do it, whether they

801
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 4: want it or not, and whether they like it or not.

802
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: So I don't really care.

803
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: I enjoy doing it. I'm in I'm very excited. So

804
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: we don't have a title yet. We'll get to that

805
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: working title. We'll get there, all right, We'll get to

806
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: that first episode will be Mount Hawk Moore of Miami

807
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: Sports Radio.

808
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 2: I'm very excited about that.

809
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 3: Maybe it'll be Mean Gen Oakreland, maybe it'll be the

810
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,240
Speaker 3: late Mean Gen Oakreland.

811
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: Of course, but we have three shows a week and

812
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: we're committed to starting in November.

813
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 2: Correct, All right, fair enough.

814
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: I thought the best part you made was that you know,

815
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: Van Halen could go on tour because any Van hall

816
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: And was dead.

817
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 3: Right now, we're not in that situation. There's no cast

818
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 3: member who has passed away. But like MJ said, you can't.

819
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 3: You can't always recapture.

820
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 4: The past as much as I want to.

821
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 2: Yes, but you can take the pill. You can as

822
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 2: I will.

823
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 4: I would take the pill.

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00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: You were mentioning something about your cameo before before we

825
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: started up.

826
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 4: That's the other thing.

827
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 3: So we're I know, wasn't there a whole thing with

828
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 3: you doing cameos and then you just let them all expire?

829
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

830
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: So I got so many. I set my price at

831
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 1: the beginning. I set my price at like fifty dollars

832
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: and they were coming in so quickly.

833
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 2: Howked that there was?

834
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: And I only had forty eight hours to fulfill and

835
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 1: so what I ultimately did was I made it.

836
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 2: I set my fulfillment date for a.

837
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 1: Week and I uped it to one hundred and fifty

838
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: dollars and then they really slowed down. But yes, I

839
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: missed a ton that I swear I will get back

840
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: to at some point in time.

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00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 3: Well, I still do cameos people, and and you know,

842
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 3: the request is always like and most of them are

843
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 3: listening now to Hawkman and Crowder and Solana, but I

844
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 3: want to re do cameos for people. We need to

845
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 3: generate some money on this show so that we can

846
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 3: do some of the things that we want to do.

847
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,720
Speaker 3: And my thought was, hey, just go on my cameo

848
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 3: book me to do a cameo, but request that Stu

849
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 3: Gots is part of it, and I will strong arm

850
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 3: ste Goots and I will knock out if we have

851
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 3: to knock out one hundred cameos, I will knock him out.

852
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 3: I will stalk him and find him and force him

853
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 3: to do it. He'll be smoking heaters and I'll be

854
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 3: doing cameos and you're gonna have the time of your life.

855
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 3: So it and it's my cameo on cameo, so but

856
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 3: just request Stu Gots on it and we'll do it together.

857
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 2: We're gonna do it.

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00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 4: We're gonna have it. We're gonna do a lot of

859
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 4: we're gonna do a lot of fun stuff.

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Speaker 2: I think.

861
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 4: I think, as long as people seem to enjoy it.

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00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 2: I listen.

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00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 1: Luckily, it turns out that most of my day when

864
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: I'm not recording, is spent walking around your complex smoking heaters.

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00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 4: You have so many good restaurants there. Try one besides

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00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 4: the one with avocado toast.

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Speaker 1: H