WEBVTT - Shonk This Way: The 1935 Croydon Aerodrome Robbery

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous crime. It's a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Elizabeth.

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<v Speaker 3>How you doing I'm great?

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<v Speaker 4>How are you great?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh wow, I'd love to hear this Tony the Tiger

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<v Speaker 5>energy from me.

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<v Speaker 6>Good.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just going to surf off of your high because

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<v Speaker 5>you didn't ask what I'm also doing. Well, I've got

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<v Speaker 5>another question for you. Do you know what's ridiculous?

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<v Speaker 4>I do know it's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>Prove it.

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<v Speaker 4>Tacos ridiculously good? You know I love talking.

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<v Speaker 2>You eat them almost any day you could.

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<v Speaker 4>I would. I would eat them every day if I could.

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<v Speaker 4>And Taco Bell not so bad, not terrible. I can

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<v Speaker 4>get a Taco Bell if need be.

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<v Speaker 5>Seven ingredients mixed up in all different ways exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>You just you go to the drive through. You're like,

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<v Speaker 4>I want to spend seven dollars, mess me up, and

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<v Speaker 4>then they'll just give you whatever combination. They have this thing,

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<v Speaker 4>the LOCOS program.

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<v Speaker 2>Locos Locos, I'll call.

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<v Speaker 4>It crazy, yeah, and it stands for loss or Celebration

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<v Speaker 4>Outcome Support And it's the first noble emotional support taco program,

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<v Speaker 4>which I get with as well. It has to do

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<v Speaker 4>with World Cup. Yeah, so that you have to put

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<v Speaker 4>the app on your phone. I don't have that.

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<v Speaker 2>The Taco Bell app.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there's a Taco Bell app and you can choose

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<v Speaker 4>either celebration mode if your team won, or support mode

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<v Speaker 4>if you're sad because they didn't do right. And so

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<v Speaker 4>the first time you do this, you get a free

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<v Speaker 4>taco with any purchase, and you know, then there's all

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<v Speaker 4>this junk on the app. It runs through July thirteenth,

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<v Speaker 4>all right, so the end. So you donaded the app though, no,

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<v Speaker 4>but you know so, I guess they don't want the

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<v Speaker 4>finals involved in this, Like that's just too.

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<v Speaker 2>Much yet right now.

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<v Speaker 4>In the US, like if you don't have the app, though,

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<v Speaker 4>you could have gone to LA or New York. They

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<v Speaker 4>had scream booths so you could yell into the void

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<v Speaker 4>after a loss. I know they have some similar kind

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<v Speaker 4>of stuff in UK. Camden, London they had handing out

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<v Speaker 4>just free tacos because they're like, you guys need the

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<v Speaker 4>emotional support just for me you anyway. They also Australia, Canada, Brazil, Spain.

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<v Speaker 4>I love that they're like, let's go to Brazil.

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<v Speaker 5>And I have to say, I did not know that

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<v Speaker 5>Taco Bell was in Brazil, nor did I know that

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<v Speaker 5>it was in the UK.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, apparently, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called Taco Bell in both places.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, although it's called Taco Bell in the UK.

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<v Speaker 2>They like it, and you know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think. I feel like I've seen one there,

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<v Speaker 4>but I don't. I didn't really pay attention.

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<v Speaker 2>To any joints looking for Nando's.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, or greg Is the Baker.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>In the Scotland, Yeah, I know. Someone I knew when

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<v Speaker 4>I lived in Glasgow loved Burger King. Really there was

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<v Speaker 4>a Burger King across from this pub that we went to.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I know that there's the Burger Ha McDonald's like

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<v Speaker 5>the big ones. It's no Taco Bell that made it over.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. Apparently we're everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>So I wonder if there's an Arby's.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh god, you know, I've never had Arby's igrets.

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<v Speaker 5>I told you I grew up vegetarian, so that to

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<v Speaker 5>me was like way past the bridge, too far.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, exactly exactly. But you know what, maybe here's what

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<v Speaker 4>I always say now, It's just it's not for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, you do say.

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<v Speaker 4>There are people congratulations, God bless, but I just kind

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<v Speaker 4>of want to get behind the idea of an emotional

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<v Speaker 4>support taco because sometimes that's what you need.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it, you know, I feel you. Well, that

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<v Speaker 2>is ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 5>It is ridiculous. I'll certify that one. So while we're

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<v Speaker 5>at it, Yeah, I've got one for you.

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<v Speaker 6>He is.

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<v Speaker 5>I saw a mention of this story and let me

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<v Speaker 5>just say, this one had me at hello, Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>All I had to read was three words Croydon aerodrome heist.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh I like that, and I was like, oh, please

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<v Speaker 5>be murder free, Please be murder free. And I know

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<v Speaker 5>you know that struggle you finally looks like a great story.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 5>I start reading up on it and you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>this one gets bloody damn. I know, I hate that, Elizabeth.

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<v Speaker 5>I have good news. We got ourselves a ridiculous crime.

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<v Speaker 3>Nice.

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<v Speaker 5>This is Ridiculous Crime A podcast about absurd and outrageous capers,

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<v Speaker 5>hes and cons. It's always ninety nine percent murder free

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<v Speaker 5>and one hundred percent ridiculous. Yeah, Elizabeth, this one has

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<v Speaker 5>so many things. It has all of the things the

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<v Speaker 5>things we love. It has cameos from real life gangsters

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<v Speaker 5>from the show Peaky Blinders. It has grizzled London taxi drivers,

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<v Speaker 5>has British aviation history. It has gold bull yon and

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<v Speaker 5>a busybody landlady. It's a classic British heist. Yes, and

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<v Speaker 5>as I said, one percent ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 4>Give it two many.

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<v Speaker 5>So what's the story. Well, let's get into it. As

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<v Speaker 5>they sat up top, It's called the Croydon Aerodrome Heist.

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<v Speaker 5>In case you didn't know it. As the official Sutton

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<v Speaker 5>Council website puts it, the Croydon Aerodrome was quote the

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<v Speaker 5>cradle of British civil aviation and London's chief airport for

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<v Speaker 5>twenty vital years between the World Wars.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yes, that's fascinating time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, the time we love.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought you'd get into this, yes, So the Croydon

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<v Speaker 5>Aerodrome got it started in nineteen fifteen. At that time

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<v Speaker 5>it was the new home for the Royal Flying Corps

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<v Speaker 5>and then three years later, in nineteen eighteen, the National

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<v Speaker 5>Aircraft Factory Number one opened nearby. That airplane factory had

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<v Speaker 5>its own airfield, So now there were two airfields super

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<v Speaker 5>close to each other.

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<v Speaker 4>Did they kiss?

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<v Speaker 5>I was just about to say, you know what happens

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<v Speaker 5>when two airfields love each other very much? So the

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<v Speaker 5>Beddington and Wadden aerodromes. That's what they were known. They

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<v Speaker 5>eventually merged stright, yeah, and they become the Croydon Aerodrome.

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<v Speaker 5>Now this place, the Beddington Wadden aerodromes. Those airfields were

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<v Speaker 5>where the man who would become King George the six

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<v Speaker 5>earned his wings as a pilot in nineteen nineteen. Fly

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<v Speaker 5>on totally training missions there, like with the scarf, the

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<v Speaker 5>whole bit.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh it's so cute.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta say.

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<v Speaker 5>If you're training the future king to fly at a

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<v Speaker 5>time when planes are still hell experimental.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you gotta be mad nervous.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh totally.

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<v Speaker 5>Can you imagine teaching the future King to fly in

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<v Speaker 5>like some rickety ass shaking, shimming biplane. He's like, grab

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<v Speaker 5>that stick, you're.

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<v Speaker 4>No, where's the spare? Here the air the spare.

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<v Speaker 5>So in nineteen twenty that's when the two airfields eventually

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<v Speaker 5>merge and they become the official customs Airport of London

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<v Speaker 5>and the new airfield that's when it was officially named

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<v Speaker 5>Croydon because that was the closest.

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<v Speaker 2>Local town, right.

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<v Speaker 5>So this is the now the official birth of the

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<v Speaker 5>Croydon Aerodrome.

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<v Speaker 2>Nineteen twenty.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome to the world.

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<v Speaker 5>A few years later in nineteen twenty four, the airlines

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<v Speaker 5>Imperial Airways made the Croydon Aerodrome its home airfield. So

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<v Speaker 5>now they have like their own airline, you know, it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>we're a Delta hub. This is the Imperial Airways hub.

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<v Speaker 4>Imperial do you think Imperial Airways is they invented Imperial margin?

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<v Speaker 2>But yes, Margine and Butter, yes.

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<v Speaker 4>That is part of their Oay, just checking.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm glad you asked that's actually what they used to

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<v Speaker 5>grease the pistons in the engines.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh that's where it okay, I am so glad. I

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<v Speaker 4>asked that that was very relevant, pertinent and important.

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<v Speaker 5>Butter, so for things like the mail and parcels of freight,

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<v Speaker 5>that's where they would get pulled into because this is

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<v Speaker 5>the official customs house, right, so you have all the

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<v Speaker 5>international travel coming through their international transport. And for the

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<v Speaker 5>purposes of our story, this also meant gold bouyon would

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<v Speaker 5>be brought through here.

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<v Speaker 4>Nice.

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<v Speaker 5>This would all become important because, as the Guardian reported

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<v Speaker 5>and I quote, security was very lax and with only

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<v Speaker 5>one person on a night and nothing but a set

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<v Speaker 5>of keys keeping them from the strong room, it was

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<v Speaker 5>the perfect target. So they have all this gold bullion

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<v Speaker 5>on all this international freight, and they're like, oh, right,

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<v Speaker 5>we should get security guards, maybe a couple locks. So,

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<v Speaker 5>as the newspaper The Examiner from Loston, Tasmania reported at

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<v Speaker 5>the time in the nineteen thirties, this is because this

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<v Speaker 5>robbery took place in nineteen thirty five, on the date

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<v Speaker 5>of actually March fifth, nineteen thirty five. So a couple

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<v Speaker 5>days later, the newspaper The Examiner, which is down from Lonston, Tasmania,

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<v Speaker 5>all the way on the other side of the planet. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>they reported on this story because that's how big a

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<v Speaker 5>story it was. It was global news, right, this bouillon theft,

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<v Speaker 5>and they reported on the date of March fifth, nineteen

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<v Speaker 5>thirty five. That's the date of the robbery, so they're

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<v Speaker 5>reporting on events on that day. So the story I

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<v Speaker 5>found said, and I quote, boxes of coin and bullion

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<v Speaker 5>were collected in the afternoon and placed in the strong room,

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<v Speaker 5>the keys of which were handed to a clerk named Johnson.

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<v Speaker 5>Now that same story goes on to lay out the

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<v Speaker 5>particulars of what happened next to our my man john

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<v Speaker 5>and I quote Johnson was alone in the aerodrome at

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<v Speaker 5>night and having locked his office door, went to sleep

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<v Speaker 5>in accordance with his custom, with these strong room keys

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<v Speaker 5>in his pocket, until he was awakened by an alarm

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<v Speaker 5>at four fifteen am to attend to the arrival of

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<v Speaker 5>a German airliner. The door was still then locked and

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<v Speaker 5>the keys were in his pocket.

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<v Speaker 2>So all good, so far.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait you work the night shift and you go there

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<v Speaker 4>to go to sleep.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, I'm talking about lack fun security. Now, those two

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<v Speaker 5>sets of keys, they are an important detail for what

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<v Speaker 5>occurs next. Because as Herbert roy Huggins, the station superintendent,

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<v Speaker 5>the mandit's in charge of this whole Croydon Aerodrome, explained

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<v Speaker 5>for the Boo Yawn room, the place where they're keeping

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<v Speaker 5>the gold, this secure facility. It had two doors. There

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<v Speaker 5>was an inner door and an outer door, and there

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<v Speaker 5>were separate keys for each door. So like a nuclear

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<v Speaker 5>sub you got to have the two keys. In this case,

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<v Speaker 5>you got to have the two keys to get through

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<v Speaker 5>one door then the next door, and one of those

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<v Speaker 5>sets of keys was still safely secured in his pocket.

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<v Speaker 5>So he's like, okay, we're good. I got I got

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<v Speaker 5>the keys. I know we had run a lax ship,

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<v Speaker 5>but I got the keys. So later on that same night,

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<v Speaker 5>March fifth, my man Herbert Roy Huggins, he locked his

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<v Speaker 5>set of keys in his desk drawer. He took the

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<v Speaker 5>key to his desk home with him. All good, so far, right,

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<v Speaker 5>So we have the Johnson, he's taking care of the

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<v Speaker 5>German airliner, the superintendent. He took the other set of keys.

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<v Speaker 4>Herby Huggins home with him. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So he awakes the next morning and when he arrives

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<v Speaker 5>back at work at five am, just a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>after Johnson went to deal with the German airliner, he

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<v Speaker 5>unlocks his desk and his set of keys were still

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<v Speaker 5>right where he left him, so their security protocols were

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<v Speaker 5>still engaged. Now the other airfield officials they arrive a

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<v Speaker 5>couple hours later at around seven am, and that is

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<v Speaker 5>when it's discovered that the doors to the strong room

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<v Speaker 5>where the gold bully on his store, they were unlocked.

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<v Speaker 2>Un Dunne, could this be Saren?

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<v Speaker 4>How could this be Johnson?

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<v Speaker 2>No, Huggins.

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<v Speaker 5>It wasn't Johnson and it wasn't Huggins, but it was

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<v Speaker 5>certainly curious.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait, Herbie Huggins was in the clear.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, if they're both in the because you know he

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<v Speaker 5>was you know away from the aerodrome, he comes back,

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<v Speaker 5>or so he claims. Now, what was far more curious

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<v Speaker 5>for those who were wondering where.

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<v Speaker 2>The gold is?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, the fact that the gold bullion was gone, like gone, gone,

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<v Speaker 5>gone gone, Yeah, nothing was there. And we're talking twenty

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<v Speaker 5>thousand pounds sterling worth of gold coins like British pounds

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<v Speaker 5>not yet eight pounds, right, and it hit it up

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<v Speaker 5>and disappeared. Now, so the superintendent and the others sorted

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<v Speaker 5>air officials at this point because they had their whole

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<v Speaker 5>security protocol in place. Yeah, they are shocked, stun flabbergasted.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean I think they would say gobsmacked a those.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they would totally say that how.

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<v Speaker 5>Could this have happened? And more importantly, where the hell

0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:41.320
<v Speaker 5>is the gold?

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<v Speaker 2>Right now? Before you ask, I did calculate what all

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<v Speaker 2>that gold would be well, thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>In my head, I was like.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, twenty thousand pounds in nineteen thirty five. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 5>I had to do a double conversion, right.

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<v Speaker 4>So zaren I've been there right, No, it's not easy.

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<v Speaker 5>So I did the inflation calculator first, So twenty thousand

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<v Speaker 5>pounds in nineteen thirty five would be worth one point

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<v Speaker 5>two six', five so one point two million pounds.

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<v Speaker 2>Today, Okay, now if you do the conversion on this.

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<v Speaker 4>One point twenty sixty five one call it one point?

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<v Speaker 4>Three sure that one point?

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<v Speaker 5>Three why not one point? Three and if you do

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<v Speaker 5>the conversion to dollars for that one point three million,

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<v Speaker 5>pounds that converts to one, million six hundred ninety one,

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<v Speaker 5>thousand seven hundred and FORTY us dollars or one point

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<v Speaker 5>seven million dollars for. You, wow that of a score

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<v Speaker 5>for whomever had stolen, yeah. Ghosts and this would become

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<v Speaker 5>a real challenge for the police because when they arrived

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<v Speaker 5>there are no obvious clues as to who pulled off

0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:43.839
<v Speaker 5>this epic gold, heist and the security protocol had been.

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<v Speaker 5>ENGAGED i mean they, like you took the keys home

0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:48.520
<v Speaker 5>and there's. Key, Yes johnson was here dealing with The german.

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<v Speaker 5>Airliners we got witnesses.

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<v Speaker 4>For where he was and, Snoozing, yeah and.

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<v Speaker 5>Snoozing so it's either either he was asleep or he

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<v Speaker 5>was going struck in Zy. Deutsch so at this point

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<v Speaker 5>this gold, heist it leads to this swarm of police

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<v Speaker 5>From london who raced out to The Croyd narodrome to,

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<v Speaker 5>investigate AND i WISH i could not find, this BUT

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<v Speaker 5>i don't know if the flying squad was called out

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<v Speaker 5>to the.

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<v Speaker 2>Airfield, right let's just, see let's just. Imagine it makes

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<v Speaker 2>some more.

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<v Speaker 4>Fun you, know who's going to check me on?

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<v Speaker 7>That?

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<v Speaker 5>Right AND i mean it's an. Airfield why would they

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<v Speaker 5>not have the flying squad?

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<v Speaker 4>There and if we don't have any written record of,

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<v Speaker 4>it it's because it was a top secret. Mission there you,

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<v Speaker 4>go so they were.

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<v Speaker 2>THERE i like where your head's. Are thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>Too now at this, Point i'm going to tell you

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<v Speaker 5>another little.

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<v Speaker 2>Secret do. It it's time for us to take a.

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<v Speaker 5>Break so let's listen to some ads and when we're,

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<v Speaker 5>back we will meet the men who pulled off this,

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<v Speaker 5>mysterious staggering gold heist back in two and.

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<v Speaker 2>Two and we're, Back.

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<v Speaker 5>Elizabeth, heyo you ready to meet the gang Of british

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<v Speaker 5>hard men who pulled off This buoleon?

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<v Speaker 2>Heigh?

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<v Speaker 4>YES i was born? Ready? Good?

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<v Speaker 5>Good, No, FIRST i have a question for. You you

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<v Speaker 5>Know i'm always filled with. Questions you ask such good.

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<v Speaker 5>ONES i try to keep. UP i know you've been To. London,

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<v Speaker 5>yes have you ever taken a handsome cab while you

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<v Speaker 5>were there handsome, cab black cab of. Course, yeah AND

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<v Speaker 5>i also think But i'm not, certain SO i have

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<v Speaker 5>to ask do you know about the test that The

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<v Speaker 5>london black cab drivers have to?

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<v Speaker 4>Take, yes it's crazy that you have to memorize every single. Street,

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<v Speaker 4>yeah it's know.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything it is absolutely.

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<v Speaker 5>Nuts and by the, way WHEN i say black cab,

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<v Speaker 5>DRIVER i don't mean the drivers are.

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<v Speaker 2>BLACK i mean the taxi cab is.

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<v Speaker 4>Itself.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah just picture one of those throwback looking handsome. Cabs

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<v Speaker 5>it's you, know they're all, black nag puck pop pop,

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<v Speaker 5>pop drive around.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of rattle, Though, yeah and you.

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<v Speaker 4>Get the cool like face each other back. Seats, yeah

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<v Speaker 4>those taxis are.

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<v Speaker 2>AMAZING i love you know.

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<v Speaker 5>ME i always take. CABS i don't Use uber for

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<v Speaker 5>any of that. Stuff and over, THERE i don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, NO i would never do that over. THERE i

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<v Speaker 4>always take. Taxis and the thing is, too is That

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<v Speaker 4>i've found that when you're there and because they know absolutely,

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<v Speaker 4>everything there are fonts of knowledge of stuff to, do

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<v Speaker 4>like Completely one TIME i was in a taxi In

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<v Speaker 4>london AND i said, like, okay you know they're all

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<v Speaker 4>like the big heavy hitter museums that everyone goes to

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<v Speaker 4>bend to all of. Them what's a museum or like

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<v Speaker 4>a site that people don't know about that you would.

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<v Speaker 4>Recommend he's like, Automatically he's, like you got to go

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<v Speaker 4>to the Medical museum AND i can't remember off the

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<v Speaker 4>top of my head what it was, called but like

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<v Speaker 4>it was you loved it incredible AND i never in

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<v Speaker 4>a million years, ago but it was. Fascinating, yeah there's

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<v Speaker 4>an amateur. Taxidermist but it's like they can recommend all

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<v Speaker 4>sorts of stuff because they see.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything oh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Totally they got me through all the coolest gardens and.

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<v Speaker 5>Stuff i'd be, LIKE i have a, have you, know

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<v Speaker 5>half of a day to. SPEND i want to go

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<v Speaker 5>to a. Garden they're, like all, right, MATE i know good.

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<v Speaker 2>Ones yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Exactly so that's HOW i found all about like you,

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<v Speaker 5>Know kensington And gardens and all these other smaller, ones

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<v Speaker 5>like they had these Like tuckaway gardens nobody knew. ABOUT

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<v Speaker 5>i was, like oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Hell, yeah, yeah it's. Amazing so that.

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<v Speaker 5>Test it's called The knowledge, yeah WHICH i just love

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<v Speaker 5>that as a. Name, yeah it's like it sounds like

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<v Speaker 5>it's like almost, medieval like it's the sum of what

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<v Speaker 5>every alchemist knows is the.

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<v Speaker 4>Knowledge do you possess the knowledge?

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<v Speaker 5>Exactly so the knowledge it started one hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 5>one years, ago way back in eighteen sixty. Five, so

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<v Speaker 5>as you pointed, out a beast of a, test it

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<v Speaker 5>takes on average three to four years to pass.

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<v Speaker 4>It, yeah it's.

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<v Speaker 5>Basically like passing the bar here In america because and you,

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<v Speaker 5>know as you, noted you're required to know pretty much

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<v Speaker 5>all Of. London to pass this. Test you have to

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<v Speaker 5>memorize twenty five thousand. Streets, yeah you have to know

0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:44.080
<v Speaker 5>twenty thousand major attractions In, London so you got to

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<v Speaker 5>know all the railway, stations the, hospitals, hotels, parks major tourist,

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<v Speaker 5>spots just absolutely. Everything and then this off the beaten

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<v Speaker 5>path stuff as. Well, yeah AND i wanted to put

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<v Speaker 5>this a little bit in. Perspective how much that is

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<v Speaker 5>forty five thousand things that they have to. Know the

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<v Speaker 5>Average american only note they only, knows but knows forty

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<v Speaker 5>two thousand. Words so they who did word to the

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<v Speaker 5>location in. Street the knowledge is like learning a whole

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<v Speaker 5>language of physical.

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<v Speaker 2>Destinations, well that's why you get in.

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<v Speaker 4>There they're never using as they call it over THEIR, Satnav,

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<v Speaker 4>no NO. Gps it's like and it's because they're not

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<v Speaker 4>relying on things like. That they have this intimate knowledge

0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:24.320
<v Speaker 4>of the. Streets they know.

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<v Speaker 5>They look at, them they look at the, screen.

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<v Speaker 4>But they're also it's like they'll know what really isn't

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<v Speaker 4>the best way to get.

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<v Speaker 5>Somewhere, oh they know the fastest, way they know the prettiest.

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<v Speaker 5>Way they know like the, oath we got. Construction, here

0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:35.679
<v Speaker 5>here's an.

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<v Speaker 2>Alternate.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly it's.

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<v Speaker 5>Incredible and by the, way this test the, knowledge what

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<v Speaker 5>it requires of them actually changes their. Brains really, yeah

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<v Speaker 5>this is backed up by. Science researchers have determined that

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<v Speaker 5>the brain of A london cab driver who's passed the,

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<v Speaker 5>knowledge it changes to the point that it impacts their.

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<v Speaker 5>Memories like often they will find that once they pass the,

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<v Speaker 5>knowledge they're able to suddenly remember like all of their,

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<v Speaker 5>kids school teachers' names and everything that they if it's

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<v Speaker 5>like their wife has an, appointment they remember the, doctor

0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:06.600
<v Speaker 5>the street they can. Remember just have like a sponge

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<v Speaker 5>for a. Brain, yeah it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Fantastic In, GLASGOW i used to take them and like

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<v Speaker 4>if it was too late to walk from the city

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<v Speaker 4>center to WHERE i was over on The West, End

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<v Speaker 4>and no matter the age of the taxi, Driver i'd

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<v Speaker 4>say seventy percent of the time WHEN i would tell

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<v Speaker 4>them my, address they knew exactly the building without getting

0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:30.040
<v Speaker 4>to the. Street and they would tell, me you, know

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<v Speaker 4>that building was bombed in The. Blitz it was the

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<v Speaker 4>only one on that block and it was leveled and

0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:37.160
<v Speaker 4>they had to rebuild. It And i'd, say, oh, yep,

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<v Speaker 4>YEAH i, know it's pretty, crazy BUT i mean like young,

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<v Speaker 4>people young, guys, yeah, yeah like but they heard it pass,

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<v Speaker 4>down pass, Down so it's not even just In. London

0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:51.040
<v Speaker 4>these you know In, glasgow they're, yeah. Incredible it's a

0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:52.400
<v Speaker 4>culture of that source knowlogy.

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<v Speaker 5>Exactly so the reason WHY i bring up the knowledge

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<v Speaker 5>is that A london cab driver is a key figure

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<v Speaker 5>in this, story, okay and his peckable memory would presumably

0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:05.320
<v Speaker 5>make him an excellent eye witness for this, heist and

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<v Speaker 5>he would remember. Everything he'd be, like you, know like

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<v Speaker 5>you one of them super. Observers so who is this

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<v Speaker 5>black cab, driver fantastic question Of his name Is George.

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<v Speaker 2>Manson George, Mansons and on.

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<v Speaker 5>That fateful night of The gold. Heist he was, working, well,

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<v Speaker 5>technically he was in his black cab taking a bit

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<v Speaker 5>of a snooze when he hears this knock on the,

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<v Speaker 5>window like just like knuckles. Rapping, yeah sometimes it's described

0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:28.440
<v Speaker 5>as a, hammering.

0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:30.639
<v Speaker 2>Like the cop. Knock, yeah, Exactly that's HOW i pictured.

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<v Speaker 5>It and this is one in the, morning, right and

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<v Speaker 5>it makes it technically the next, Day march, sixth because

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<v Speaker 5>even though it's a whole, thing because of the you,

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<v Speaker 5>know the the way that the robbery, occurs it's always

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<v Speaker 5>In march, fifth is In march six by this point

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<v Speaker 5>is Now march six, anyway As George manson tells, it

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<v Speaker 5>he gets awakened by this.

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<v Speaker 2>Knocking he shakes off his.

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<v Speaker 5>Sleep he looks, up sees his face staring back at

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<v Speaker 5>him through the, glass and it's a, man he, knows

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<v Speaker 5>a man Nicknamed Little. Harry, yeah which is such a

0:19:57.440 --> 0:20:00.119
<v Speaker 5>great criminal, nickname, right mostly for, me it's because it

0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:02.600
<v Speaker 5>implies the existence of a Second british hard man known

0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:03.600
<v Speaker 5>As Big, harry.

0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:06.160
<v Speaker 4>And Then Medium, man Possibly Medium, harry their third.

0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:08.960
<v Speaker 5>One, right, anyway on the other side of the glasses

0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:11.520
<v Speaker 5>There Little. Harry and he asked the cab, Driver George

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<v Speaker 5>manson to give him a ride To King's cross rail.

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<v Speaker 5>Station he's, like, okay oh, sure pop In. Governor but he's, like, no,

0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:21.320
<v Speaker 5>no not right. Now in three, hours so he wants

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<v Speaker 5>to go like at four.

0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Am yeah he.

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<v Speaker 5>Is it is exactly. It he's, like don't be, anywhere

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<v Speaker 5>be here SO i can get. You so he's like.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay so he does as it told or as instructed

0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:32.679
<v Speaker 5>or has, ordered depending how you want to tell. It

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<v Speaker 5>and some three hours, later at four, am the cab

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<v Speaker 5>Driver George manson is happy to oblige and he gives

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<v Speaker 5>them a ride over to The King's Cross railway. Station

0:20:39.880 --> 0:20:43.080
<v Speaker 5>and that's Where Little harry meets up with three other hard.

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<v Speaker 5>Men they hop in the handsome cab and they head

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<v Speaker 5>up to a second. Location they drive to a spot

0:20:48.240 --> 0:20:51.639
<v Speaker 5>Called Thornton heath and from there they drove to a little,

0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:54.280
<v Speaker 5>road a little road like a country road Called Pearly.

0:20:54.400 --> 0:20:57.439
<v Speaker 5>Way that's Where George manson Drops Little harry and the

0:20:57.440 --> 0:20:59.879
<v Speaker 5>three other men, off about three quarters of a mile

0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:04.040
<v Speaker 5>from The Croydon. Aerodrome now they right before they walk,

0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:06.800
<v Speaker 5>Off Little harry tells the cab driver you wait here

0:21:06.840 --> 0:21:09.080
<v Speaker 5>for us to come. Back oh so he's got to

0:21:09.119 --> 0:21:11.200
<v Speaker 5>sit there in the middle of the nowhere idling at

0:21:11.240 --> 0:21:13.440
<v Speaker 5>like four forty five in the morning or four to

0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:16.000
<v Speaker 5>thirty in the morning at this. Point now together the

0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:18.600
<v Speaker 5>men all head off into the dark toward The Croyd Narrow.

0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:21.160
<v Speaker 4>Drum but, see it's also Little harry knows he's a hard,

0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:23.639
<v Speaker 4>man so he can't be like not going to happen

0:21:23.720 --> 0:21:24.680
<v Speaker 4>and then just drive off.

0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:27.359
<v Speaker 5>Totally he knows he's now part of this. Crew basically

0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:31.040
<v Speaker 5>he's like an unaffiliated. Member they know him and they

0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:33.280
<v Speaker 5>know that he knows what they're you're doing where they.

0:21:33.320 --> 0:21:36.480
<v Speaker 5>Are so it's, like, oh, anyway who are these other

0:21:36.720 --> 0:21:40.080
<v Speaker 5>hard men besides Little. Harry i'm so glad you Asked elizabeth.

0:21:40.240 --> 0:21:43.520
<v Speaker 5>Too we have forty seven year Old Cecil swanland Or

0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:46.600
<v Speaker 5>Cecil Swanland, CECIL i love. That and there was then

0:21:46.640 --> 0:21:48.920
<v Speaker 5>the old man of the, bunch a seventy four year

0:21:48.960 --> 0:21:52.440
<v Speaker 5>Old john, O'Brien, Okay and lastly there was thirty eight

0:21:52.480 --> 0:21:57.440
<v Speaker 5>year Old Silvio schank mazarda Shunk shank like s h

0:21:57.600 --> 0:22:01.240
<v Speaker 5>o n K Shank Mazar. Shunk, yeah he's got a

0:22:01.320 --> 0:22:02.840
<v Speaker 5>name Like Silvia. Mazard he's, like call me.

0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:05.720
<v Speaker 4>SHANK i, know, like, no, no, no, no.

0:22:05.800 --> 0:22:08.360
<v Speaker 5>How long he's been In Great. Britain, brother So Cecil

0:22:08.440 --> 0:22:11.320
<v Speaker 5>swanlin was a career. Criminal he had a particularly long rap.

0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:13.800
<v Speaker 5>Sheet most of his, offenses and he'd been locked up

0:22:13.800 --> 0:22:16.879
<v Speaker 5>and done prison time, for were forgery and. Theft my

0:22:17.119 --> 0:22:19.919
<v Speaker 5>favorite story from looking up his like rap sheet is

0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:24.520
<v Speaker 5>he once robbed his own father and hoping to teach

0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:27.600
<v Speaker 5>his son a valuable. Lesson his father pressed charges, right

0:22:28.240 --> 0:22:30.639
<v Speaker 5>and the lesson that he hoped his boy learned was not. Learned,

0:22:30.640 --> 0:22:33.720
<v Speaker 5>instead he became a good time, charlie his career. Criminal he's, like,

0:22:33.840 --> 0:22:36.920
<v Speaker 5>yeah he's. Bitter, yeah, exactly and so thus he becomes

0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:42.760
<v Speaker 5>nicknamed the man who can't go. Straight oh that's his other. Likename,

0:22:42.880 --> 0:22:44.120
<v Speaker 5>yeah it's definitely a long.

0:22:44.160 --> 0:22:46.000
<v Speaker 4>One it's it's no, Shank.

0:22:46.480 --> 0:22:47.320
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't go right to the.

0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:50.520
<v Speaker 5>Point So Cecil swanlin he called himself an, artist and

0:22:50.560 --> 0:22:52.960
<v Speaker 5>he uh to prove it to other. People he dressed the.

0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:54.119
<v Speaker 5>Part he dressed just like an.

0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Artist do you wear?

0:22:54.920 --> 0:22:57.639
<v Speaker 5>Beret i'd like to believe it's nineteen thirty, five So

0:22:57.640 --> 0:23:02.320
<v Speaker 5>i'm thinking he's probably wearing a beret like a necker chief. Smock,

0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:08.800
<v Speaker 5>yeah exactly, Espitrals, yes and the old Man john. O'Brien

0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:11.040
<v Speaker 5>he did not have the same sort of a. Lawn

0:23:11.280 --> 0:23:13.520
<v Speaker 5>he also didn't have the same sort of illustrious crime.

0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:16.000
<v Speaker 5>Career he was basically like a. Fence he was, LIKE

0:23:16.680 --> 0:23:19.320
<v Speaker 5>i kind of sit, STILL i handle. Business so he

0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:22.280
<v Speaker 5>also had no major rap sheet, defenses not in comparison

0:23:22.320 --> 0:23:25.840
<v Speaker 5>To Cecil. Swanland and, lastly there was my, man you're a,

0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:29.080
<v Speaker 5>Man Shunk Mazarg. Shk turns out he was a member

0:23:29.160 --> 0:23:32.440
<v Speaker 5>of The Sabinie, gang as in the Same sabini gang

0:23:32.480 --> 0:23:34.639
<v Speaker 5>that features prominently in season two Of Peaky.

0:23:34.680 --> 0:23:38.200
<v Speaker 4>Blinders, eh you, KNOW i really hope That shank isn't

0:23:38.240 --> 0:23:41.760
<v Speaker 4>like crazy offensive And i'm just saying it over and over.

0:23:41.800 --> 0:23:43.119
<v Speaker 5>Again, YEAH i didn't really look that.

0:23:43.280 --> 0:23:43.840
<v Speaker 2>UP i. DIDN'T i.

0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:46.080
<v Speaker 5>DIDN'T i didn't never encourage me that it could be

0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:47.800
<v Speaker 5>like an, epithet, Right, no.

0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:49.159
<v Speaker 4>That's just okay if it is.

0:23:49.200 --> 0:23:51.600
<v Speaker 5>APOLOGY i assumed it was just like a fun sound to,

0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:54.080
<v Speaker 5>say you, know Like, schunk he stabs.

0:23:54.080 --> 0:23:57.639
<v Speaker 2>People shunk exactly good with the, knife good and.

0:23:57.680 --> 0:23:59.639
<v Speaker 4>Clothes every time we say, it people are just like

0:23:59.720 --> 0:24:02.359
<v Speaker 4>Win sing in THE, Uk they're, like how are they allowed.

0:24:02.440 --> 0:24:05.680
<v Speaker 5>To it's like when A Lexi lawis said called somebody a, whanker,

0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:11.080
<v Speaker 5>right And tyr were like look at each, other like

0:24:11.160 --> 0:24:11.720
<v Speaker 5>can you say?

0:24:11.760 --> 0:24:15.000
<v Speaker 2>This thank? God they were An AMERICAN.

0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:18.600
<v Speaker 5>Tv so The Sabini, gang as it may remind, you

0:24:18.720 --> 0:24:20.879
<v Speaker 5>was very much a power in the field Of british

0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:23.920
<v Speaker 5>crime families in the nineteen. Thirties the gang was far

0:24:24.000 --> 0:24:26.439
<v Speaker 5>more than a. Gang they many times the estimates were

0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:29.199
<v Speaker 5>put at about three hundred. People oh, yeah so it

0:24:29.240 --> 0:24:33.400
<v Speaker 5>was much more like a small army collective crime. Collective

0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:37.160
<v Speaker 5>so this gang was led By Charles sabini Aka Darby.

0:24:37.200 --> 0:24:40.159
<v Speaker 5>Sabini he was A British italian. Gangster he drew his

0:24:40.240 --> 0:24:43.320
<v Speaker 5>power as the protector like the boss Of Little italy In,

0:24:43.400 --> 0:24:46.439
<v Speaker 5>london and in the interwar period Between World War one

0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:49.880
<v Speaker 5>And World War, two he was essentially like a racetrack.

0:24:50.160 --> 0:24:52.680
<v Speaker 2>Gangster, yeah, yeah just like you see in the.

0:24:52.720 --> 0:24:55.280
<v Speaker 5>Show and he when he was born, though AS i,

0:24:55.359 --> 0:24:59.560
<v Speaker 5>learned his name was Actually Otavio. Handley oh and then

0:24:59.600 --> 0:25:01.200
<v Speaker 5>he just took on the Name Charles.

0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:03.280
<v Speaker 4>Sabini sabini sounds really, cool.

0:25:04.600 --> 0:25:06.480
<v Speaker 5>Exactly so he had a good instinct for, like you,

0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:08.719
<v Speaker 5>know a new appellation for himself now as he saw

0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:11.200
<v Speaker 5>a peaky. Blinder AS i, Said sabini's at this racetrack,

0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:14.800
<v Speaker 5>gangster so he's mostly hanging around like The midland. Racetracks

0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:18.280
<v Speaker 5>he's also though a major underworld figure In. London and this,

0:25:18.440 --> 0:25:22.200
<v Speaker 5>Man Shank mazarta was like a prominent figure in The sabini,

0:25:22.280 --> 0:25:25.479
<v Speaker 5>gang real close To, sabini and so he gets involved

0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:28.159
<v Speaker 5>in this gold. Heist it strongly suggests that this is

0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:32.080
<v Speaker 5>A Sabini gang, heist right all, Right, so as the

0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:36.160
<v Speaker 5>papers at the time, Reported Cecil swanland was basically the

0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:39.040
<v Speaker 5>mastermind of The Croydon aerodrome. Heist he was the man

0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:41.640
<v Speaker 5>who brought the job to The sabini. Gang we don't

0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:44.200
<v Speaker 5>know exactly if that's, true but that was the. Supposition.

0:25:44.320 --> 0:25:47.200
<v Speaker 5>Sure so this is our crew and their criminal. Affiliation

0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:49.960
<v Speaker 5>we got Little Harry, cecil the man who can't go, Straight,

0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:54.639
<v Speaker 5>Swanlin john O'Brien And Sylvio Shank. Mazarta and at sometime

0:25:54.680 --> 0:25:57.639
<v Speaker 5>around four am this crew arrived At Croydon aerodrome and

0:25:57.680 --> 0:26:00.600
<v Speaker 5>they have the cab, Driver george Manson or to wait for,

0:26:00.680 --> 0:26:03.359
<v Speaker 5>them and hour, passes the dark of night begins to

0:26:03.359 --> 0:26:05.840
<v Speaker 5>turn into like the purple skies of the coming. Dawn

0:26:06.240 --> 0:26:09.360
<v Speaker 5>and that's when the four men, return but they don't walk. Back,

0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:12.720
<v Speaker 5>instead they drive back from The Croydon airfield and what's

0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:15.960
<v Speaker 5>called what is later called in paper is a dilapidated small.

0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:20.120
<v Speaker 2>Car oh, YEAH i saw that used numerous. Times it's

0:26:20.119 --> 0:26:20.359
<v Speaker 2>not a.

0:26:20.359 --> 0:26:22.320
<v Speaker 5>Brand what do you guys all called a dilapid into

0:26:22.320 --> 0:26:22.880
<v Speaker 5>a small car?

0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:25.920
<v Speaker 4>Anyway no other way to describe.

0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:27.159
<v Speaker 5>This, Yeah so the car pulls up close to this

0:26:27.200 --> 0:26:29.920
<v Speaker 5>waiting cab that's just idling, there standing in the, dark

0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:33.200
<v Speaker 5>and the men move with professional. Efficiency they unload three

0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:36.280
<v Speaker 5>boxes from the dilapidated small car and they load them

0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:38.679
<v Speaker 5>into the boot of the black, cab and they're not

0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:41.280
<v Speaker 5>shy or coy about what's in the three. Boxes one

0:26:41.320 --> 0:26:43.960
<v Speaker 5>of the men tells the cab Driver George, manson AND i.

0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:44.879
<v Speaker 2>Quote this is.

0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:47.919
<v Speaker 5>Gold, no, yeah that was in the. Newspaper it's like

0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:50.840
<v Speaker 5>this is. Gold so once he hears, That George manson's,

0:26:50.880 --> 0:26:52.520
<v Speaker 5>like take it. OUT i don't want to mess about

0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:53.199
<v Speaker 5>with any stolen.

0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:53.560
<v Speaker 2>Gold.

0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:55.520
<v Speaker 5>Ye but the four men they ain't hearing any noise

0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:58.040
<v Speaker 5>from their cab, driver and they tell him his job

0:26:58.119 --> 0:27:00.640
<v Speaker 5>is to drive not to worry about what he's, carrying

0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:02.680
<v Speaker 5>so he does the math in his head real. Quick

0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:05.240
<v Speaker 5>there for, them there's one of, him their career. Criminals

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:07.560
<v Speaker 5>he's a cab. Driver they have deep connections with The sabini.

0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:10.879
<v Speaker 5>Gang so he's, like all, right, Right, kevin you want to.

0:27:10.920 --> 0:27:15.480
<v Speaker 5>Go So George manson's, like, okay, Yeah i'm gonna pipe.

0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:17.439
<v Speaker 5>Down so he just gets back to the cab and

0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:19.320
<v Speaker 5>just waits for them to get done with their business

0:27:19.320 --> 0:27:21.240
<v Speaker 5>of moving the gold from one car to the. Other,

0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:25.040
<v Speaker 5>Eventually sabini's Man Shock. Mazarda he hops back in the

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:27.320
<v Speaker 5>dilapidate into small car and he drives off in. That

0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:30.520
<v Speaker 5>the other three, men Including Little, harry they pop back

0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:32.720
<v Speaker 5>in the black cab and they Tell george where to drive,

0:27:32.880 --> 0:27:35.560
<v Speaker 5>again he does as. Instructed he drives them to the

0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:38.600
<v Speaker 5>home of the man who can't go straight, Old Cecil.

0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:41.640
<v Speaker 4>Swanlin but they might as well just draw a math

0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:44.400
<v Speaker 4>right with the. Gold so they're, like.

0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:47.360
<v Speaker 5>This is, gold here's our. Hideout and by the, way

0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:51.240
<v Speaker 5>there's the. Address it's Three. Pemberton SO i Know i'm

0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:53.440
<v Speaker 5>not a career. Criminal i'm also not A british hard,

0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:55.960
<v Speaker 5>man BUT i think these are serious flaws in their.

0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 4>Plaint, YEAH i. Definitely.

0:27:56.920 --> 0:27:59.160
<v Speaker 5>Yeah they seem to have much different ideas about.

0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:00.440
<v Speaker 2>Trust so NOW i.

0:28:00.400 --> 0:28:02.639
<v Speaker 4>Can understand how you're able to tell me this. Story,

0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:06.760
<v Speaker 4>yeah it's not a great unsolved. Mystery and then get.

0:28:06.800 --> 0:28:07.920
<v Speaker 2>This they have a cab.

0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:09.960
<v Speaker 5>Driver once they come back to their, hideout they just

0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:11.480
<v Speaker 5>let him go on his, way Like i'm sure you've.

0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:13.320
<v Speaker 2>Got business to. Do he's just cut.

0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:16.280
<v Speaker 5>Loose you, know news is going to break very, soon

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:18.040
<v Speaker 5>and they have a key witness just out on the.

0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:21.600
<v Speaker 5>STREETS i hope there's not a big reward. Posted so

0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:24.480
<v Speaker 5>at this, point once they've let their eyewitness, free you,

0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:27.119
<v Speaker 5>know they go, Okay AND i think they're convinced that

0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:29.280
<v Speaker 5>their threats are scaring, him are going to.

0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:31.199
<v Speaker 2>Keep him in. LINE i have to believe that's what it.

0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:31.399
<v Speaker 6>Is.

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:35.720
<v Speaker 5>Anyway so this black cab, driver he's now we've got morning,

0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:38.239
<v Speaker 5>traffic he's going to be, Busy so he does this.

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 2>Thing they do their.

0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:43.360
<v Speaker 5>Things so the criminals they go Into Cecil swanlin's. Home

0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:45.760
<v Speaker 5>it's like a rented room and like a boarding, house

0:28:46.120 --> 0:28:48.520
<v Speaker 5>and they start counting their halts very. Private but first

0:28:48.560 --> 0:28:51.640
<v Speaker 5>they've got a break into the strong. Boxes this is

0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:55.360
<v Speaker 5>no easy. Test these three. Boxes they eventually are able

0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:58.640
<v Speaker 5>to like break into, them possibly using plasticcene.

0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:03.400
<v Speaker 2>Explosives, yes they've gotta be, yeah very. Heavy they had

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 2>to get a whole car to bring.

0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 6>Them.

0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:07.640
<v Speaker 5>Remember, Yeah so the three, boxes once they get them,

0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:10.600
<v Speaker 5>open they find their three bars of. Gold there are

0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:13.200
<v Speaker 5>also five thousand gold coins from The United states and

0:29:13.240 --> 0:29:16.360
<v Speaker 5>there are fifty eight hundred gold coins from THE. Uk all,

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:19.000
<v Speaker 5>told the score is worth about twenty one thousand, pounds

0:29:19.040 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 5>or AS i told you, earlier now roughly one point

0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:24.760
<v Speaker 5>six million dollars or for you one point Seven so

0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 5>not bad for a few hours work in the early morning. Hours,

0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:31.440
<v Speaker 5>now at this, point the superintendent of The Croydon aerodrome

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:33.800
<v Speaker 5>arrives at work because we're still in the early morning.

0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:36.880
<v Speaker 5>Hours two hours, later his fellow coworkers arrived at seven.

0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:39.480
<v Speaker 5>Am like, YadA, YadA. YadA they discover the strong room

0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:42.200
<v Speaker 5>has been, unlocked the gold bullion is. Missing they, Panic

0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:45.760
<v Speaker 5>they call the, authorities the investigation. Begins the flying squad comes.

0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:48.120
<v Speaker 5>Out now the trouble for this gang is that they've

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 5>pulled off their gold, heist but their cab, Driver George,

0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:54.239
<v Speaker 5>manson who they presumably threatened to. Stay, mom isn't the

0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:57.800
<v Speaker 5>only Eyewitness you're. Kidding turns out there was a second

0:29:57.840 --> 0:29:59.960
<v Speaker 5>man who saw all of this pretty much go. Down

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 5>the second witness was this man Named Alfred George, king

0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:05.960
<v Speaker 5>and he happened to be an early. Riser and not only,

0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:06.680
<v Speaker 5>that he was one of my.

0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 2>Dudes he was a.

0:30:07.360 --> 0:30:09.800
<v Speaker 5>Cyclist he was out riding in the early, morning like

0:30:10.000 --> 0:30:13.760
<v Speaker 5>four in the, morning, right and so he sees the

0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:15.720
<v Speaker 5>like he's there under the same like you, know purple

0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:19.160
<v Speaker 5>skies of. Dawn he sees the cab idling near the arrow.

0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:22.720
<v Speaker 5>Drack and not only, that he sees the cab pass.

0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 5>Him so he's able to like jot down the license,

0:30:25.080 --> 0:30:28.080
<v Speaker 5>plate and he sees the small dilapidated old car.

0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 4>As, well so he gets the whole.

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:31.040
<v Speaker 2>Score he doesn't get the license plate on.

0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:33.320
<v Speaker 4>A, second he wrote down the license plate.

0:30:33.120 --> 0:30:39.160
<v Speaker 5>To another one of your, people, right yeah. Something so

0:30:39.320 --> 0:30:41.160
<v Speaker 5>once he's, like you, know, well this, Dude Alfred George

0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:44.920
<v Speaker 5>king is like cycling Along Pearly, way he Sees George manson's,

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:47.160
<v Speaker 5>cab he sees the little dilapidated.

0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:48.760
<v Speaker 2>Car he jots it all.

0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:51.560
<v Speaker 5>Down and, uh then he's Like i'm just going to,

0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:54.760
<v Speaker 5>do like go about my. Day he gets, home he's

0:30:54.960 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 5>just not in the first morning, newspaper but not soon

0:30:58.120 --> 0:31:01.240
<v Speaker 5>afterwards on the radio this news popping up and he's, like.

0:31:01.320 --> 0:31:02.800
<v Speaker 2>Huh that's, interesting uh.

0:31:02.920 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 5>Huh and now we have our first, like, oh MAYBE

0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:08.840
<v Speaker 5>i should call the bobbies right. Now at this, point

0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 5>also you have to recognize that there is a second eye. Witness,

0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:16.800
<v Speaker 5>right that's, bad, right, okay, yeah but there's a third eyewitness.

0:31:17.080 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 5>Two oh, Yes because remember how the three men had

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:22.000
<v Speaker 5>the cab driver drop them off early in the morning

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 5>At Cecil's swanlin's, home, Right, well he had a land

0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:29.240
<v Speaker 5>lady and she was another busy body and apparently an early,

0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:32.080
<v Speaker 5>riser SO i, guess or maybe a light, SLEEPER i don't,

0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:34.760
<v Speaker 5>know because she apparently hears this loud noise coming from

0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:36.240
<v Speaker 5>his Cecil swanlin's.

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:38.000
<v Speaker 4>Flag oh, yeah they're trying to like blow it up

0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 4>WITH c four or.

0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 2>Whatever.

0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 5>Total first they're bringing the heavy boxes in and they

0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:44.240
<v Speaker 5>just drop them on the floor and that like shakes the,

0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:46.480
<v Speaker 5>house wakes her. Up so she goes to the, window

0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:49.080
<v Speaker 5>throws up and the sash looks down and sees them

0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 5>pulling more boxes out of the cab and then, like you,

0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:54.880
<v Speaker 5>know bringing them in the. House at this, point it's

0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:57.200
<v Speaker 5>like just before six in the. Morning so what does she,

0:31:57.280 --> 0:32:01.000
<v Speaker 5>see you, know great, Question. Elizabeth she sees the, cab

0:32:01.160 --> 0:32:04.160
<v Speaker 5>the cab, driver the man who can't go, Straight Cecil,

0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:08.200
<v Speaker 5>swanland his, crew the, boxes all of. It she can

0:32:08.240 --> 0:32:11.080
<v Speaker 5>put all of them together in a. Timeline she knows

0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:14.200
<v Speaker 5>what time she got. Up she's an ideal, eyewitness, Right

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 5>and also she then describes how she would later, recall

0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 5>he rushed into the, house went into the sitting, room

0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:23.360
<v Speaker 5>and THEN i heard another thump similar to the ONE

0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:25.480
<v Speaker 5>i heard. Before and then a little while later she

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:28.120
<v Speaker 5>hears the window of the sitting room slide. Open this

0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:31.280
<v Speaker 5>is followed by smoke lifting out of the. Window that's

0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:34.440
<v Speaker 5>from the explosion that they used to blow open the lock.

0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:38.040
<v Speaker 5>Box so now she's got like the whole crime pretty much.

0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:41.160
<v Speaker 5>Down so she's, like, oh this is. Odd now she

0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:43.920
<v Speaker 5>starts clocking her lodger like it's her part time. Job

0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:46.760
<v Speaker 5>so later that same day in the, evening she Sees

0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:49.400
<v Speaker 5>cecil swanmen walk out of the boarding house and he's

0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:52.360
<v Speaker 5>like burdened carrying like what looks to be a heavy,

0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:55.040
<v Speaker 5>box and so he walks, out puts this heavy box

0:32:55.040 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 5>into the trunk or the boot if you prefer some waiting.

0:32:57.880 --> 0:32:59.960
<v Speaker 5>Car then that car drives. Off so now she knows

0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:03.239
<v Speaker 5>where the gold is not it's like or whatever the

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:07.600
<v Speaker 5>box is. Not she's seeing the whole. Event, Meanwhile, elizabeth

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:09.200
<v Speaker 5>the police at this point are getting busy with their.

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:12.440
<v Speaker 5>Investigation the press has gotten word of. Stuff and the

0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 5>first person helps and break the case is that busy body.

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:19.280
<v Speaker 5>Cyclist once the news, hits he shows up and your

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:22.720
<v Speaker 5>fellow super, observer he's, like did you need the license

0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:26.200
<v Speaker 5>plate of the cab THAT i? Saw so with, that

0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:29.640
<v Speaker 5>now the police are able to be like. Oh they look.

0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:32.600
<v Speaker 5>Up George manson goes off of the license plate and

0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:34.760
<v Speaker 5>they go to, him and when he's, questioned he's, like,

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:37.360
<v Speaker 5>OH i was ordered by these guys to go out.

0:33:37.400 --> 0:33:40.240
<v Speaker 5>There that's WHY i was there. Waiting like what did

0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:42.280
<v Speaker 5>You where did you take? Them he's, like, oh the Three.

0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:45.840
<v Speaker 5>Pemberton he takes them to the landlady's house and she's, like,

0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:48.000
<v Speaker 5>oh thank, GOOD i was about to call you. Guys

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:50.080
<v Speaker 5>so now she can tell her. Part so now we

0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:53.640
<v Speaker 5>got all three eyewitnesses working together and the police pretty

0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:57.239
<v Speaker 5>much solve the case day. One now you're within the

0:33:57.240 --> 0:34:00.440
<v Speaker 5>first hours of the. Day so at this point they

0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:03.840
<v Speaker 5>go in they Search Cecil swanlin's room in the boarding.

0:34:03.880 --> 0:34:06.600
<v Speaker 5>House they find a ton of. Evidence they discover a

0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:08.640
<v Speaker 5>bunch of nail heads that are blown out of the,

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:11.920
<v Speaker 5>box the same nails that they can identify they belong

0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 5>to the lock. Boxes they're very like specific security, NAILS i.

0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:18.880
<v Speaker 5>Guess they also discover partially burned seals from this company

0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:21.920
<v Speaker 5>that was the consignee of the. Gold they also, have

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:25.040
<v Speaker 5>as that's now irrefutable evidence that they're connected to The

0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:28.600
<v Speaker 5>Croydon aerodrome. Heist and they also they know That Cecil

0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:31.560
<v Speaker 5>swanlin has a notable rap sheet and has just recently

0:34:31.760 --> 0:34:35.399
<v Speaker 5>been released from. Prison so the police questioned this career

0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:38.239
<v Speaker 5>criminal about all the curious stuff in his room and he's, like, oh,

0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:40.520
<v Speaker 5>well you, know they're, like what about these brand new gold.

0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:42.880
<v Speaker 5>Cufflings he's, like, OH i was just bopped. DOWN i bought.

0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 5>These and also there's a bunch of expensive clothing and

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:47.680
<v Speaker 5>didn't you just get out of. Prison he's, like, well you,

0:34:47.719 --> 0:34:50.080
<v Speaker 5>Know i'm an. Autist it look to look good AND i,

0:34:50.160 --> 0:34:53.480
<v Speaker 5>was what about this really expensive brooch you've. Purchased he's, like,

0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:55.319
<v Speaker 5>well my, wife she's a younger. LADY i like to

0:34:55.360 --> 0:34:57.759
<v Speaker 5>keep a feeling very. Beautiful she's twenty one years, old

0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:00.520
<v Speaker 5>you know how it. Is and they're, like uh, huh.

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:01.960
<v Speaker 4>How do you got to Spending.

0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:05.040
<v Speaker 5>Yes, Immediately so at this, point the most damning thing

0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:09.000
<v Speaker 5>they find is The Imperial airways timetable and the paperwork

0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 5>detailing the gold fright and when it's expected to arrive

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:15.000
<v Speaker 5>from the mode of gold that was.

0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:15.400
<v Speaker 2>Stolen.

0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:19.120
<v Speaker 5>Right this is obviously enough to Erase Cecil. Swanland so

0:35:19.200 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 5>this cab, Driver George, manson he gets brought in as

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:25.560
<v Speaker 5>a cooperating witness to Identify cecil from a police. Lineup

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:28.960
<v Speaker 5>cab driver with the impeccable, memory is able to of

0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:31.080
<v Speaker 5>course put the finger To. Cecil he's, like, yep that's the.

0:35:31.120 --> 0:35:32.200
<v Speaker 2>Man, yeah and Says.

0:35:32.200 --> 0:35:34.719
<v Speaker 5>Swanland then is soon joined in the police lineup by

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:37.560
<v Speaker 5>the other, Ones Shock mazarta and the old Man john.

0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:42.000
<v Speaker 5>O'Neil they pulled them into and he's, like, Okay sabini's.

0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:41.880
<v Speaker 2>MAN i know.

0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:45.520
<v Speaker 5>Him and it's Also john, O'Neil i know.

0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Him he.

0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:49.560
<v Speaker 5>Brags George manson brags to the police that he's Known

0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 5>Shank mazarta for twenty maybe thirty. Years he's, LIKE i

0:35:52.719 --> 0:35:55.120
<v Speaker 5>definitely know who that guy. Is HE'S i think he

0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:57.239
<v Speaker 5>thinks he's gonna make. It, Okay i'm gonna wash my

0:35:57.280 --> 0:35:59.160
<v Speaker 5>hands of. THIS i was not part of. IT i

0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:01.960
<v Speaker 5>don't want the. Mbions so he's like telling EVERYBODY i know,

0:36:02.120 --> 0:36:04.040
<v Speaker 5>HIM i know. Him i've known, him this guy for donkeys.

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:06.640
<v Speaker 5>Years so now at this, point all three men are,

0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:09.279
<v Speaker 5>arrested But Little harry is not part of.

0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:11.440
<v Speaker 2>This, Okay oh, yeah so he.

0:36:11.719 --> 0:36:14.759
<v Speaker 5>Doesn't get pulled. In somehow he remains on the. Lamb

0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:17.120
<v Speaker 5>nobody can find. Where so while he's in the, wind

0:36:17.160 --> 0:36:19.880
<v Speaker 5>his three associates are now arrested and soon to be

0:36:19.880 --> 0:36:22.960
<v Speaker 5>put on. Trial the question is is will they get

0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:25.600
<v Speaker 5>off and will they betray the mystery Man Little, harry

0:36:25.640 --> 0:36:29.959
<v Speaker 5>who is possibly the real ringleader for The. Heights right that, Thought,

0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:32.760
<v Speaker 5>Elizabeth we'll take a little break and after these messages

0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:33.160
<v Speaker 5>we go to.

0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:55.239
<v Speaker 2>Trial yes we're, Back.

0:36:55.280 --> 0:36:58.240
<v Speaker 5>Elizabeth, hello you're ready to hear how The Croydon Aerodrum

0:36:58.320 --> 0:36:59.360
<v Speaker 5>Gold heights plays out in?

0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:00.680
<v Speaker 4>Court am?

0:37:00.719 --> 0:37:02.320
<v Speaker 2>Good because this is Fun.

0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:05.560
<v Speaker 5>I'm telling you the first trial they Do Cecil swanland

0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:09.400
<v Speaker 5>on his own His landlady seems only too happy to

0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:12.439
<v Speaker 5>do her part to implicate her former. Lodger she goes

0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 5>up on the. Stand she's answering questions from the. Prosecutor

0:37:15.600 --> 0:37:18.480
<v Speaker 5>she's telling all that she. Knows she describes the heavy

0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:21.000
<v Speaker 5>covered box taken from the car brought into her.

0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:22.440
<v Speaker 2>Home she describes the thumb she.

0:37:22.480 --> 0:37:25.399
<v Speaker 5>Heard she tells about the sounds of attempting to force something,

0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:28.000
<v Speaker 5>open the, explosion possibly the smoke coming out of the.

0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:32.280
<v Speaker 5>Window as The Daily herald Of london, reported her name's Missus.

0:37:32.280 --> 0:37:36.360
<v Speaker 5>Schultz she testifies that AND i, QUOTE i could hear men's,

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:39.000
<v Speaker 5>voices and the commotion continued for nearly an, hour so

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:39.560
<v Speaker 5>she's able.

0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:39.960
<v Speaker 2>To give him like a.

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:42.640
<v Speaker 5>Timeline she notes that, she AS i, said she sees

0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:44.880
<v Speaker 5>the smoke building out from the. Window that explains all

0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:47.880
<v Speaker 5>the burned, stuff and so she's basically, saying, yes she

0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:51.120
<v Speaker 5>can connect him to all this. Now perhaps most, importantly

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:55.279
<v Speaker 5>she also testifies that before the, trial a stranger came

0:37:55.400 --> 0:37:57.640
<v Speaker 5>up to her and warned, her if you take my,

0:37:57.760 --> 0:38:01.080
<v Speaker 5>advice you will have nothing to do with. It so

0:38:01.239 --> 0:38:05.239
<v Speaker 5>she also admits there is a larger. Conspiracy but you,

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:07.000
<v Speaker 5>know she's, Like i'm gonna go ahead and be a witness.

0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:10.919
<v Speaker 5>Anyway so she does citizen very good. Citizens so, see Miss,

0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:13.160
<v Speaker 5>shelt you can't keep, her scare her from doing her

0:38:13.200 --> 0:38:16.160
<v Speaker 5>part from justice for justice rather now the end of her,

0:38:16.160 --> 0:38:18.480
<v Speaker 5>testimony she did add that her former lodger was a

0:38:18.600 --> 0:38:20.719
<v Speaker 5>very nice person and so is his young. Wife so

0:38:21.000 --> 0:38:22.839
<v Speaker 5>she did want to acknowledge. THAT i don't know if

0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:26.800
<v Speaker 5>that's for like his sentencing. Anyway next comes a surprise.

0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:30.440
<v Speaker 5>Witness While Cecil's swanland was held in police custody at

0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:33.680
<v Speaker 5>the prison In, brixton he met a man Named Robert,

0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:37.240
<v Speaker 5>steele and the prosecution Calls Old Bobby steele to the witness.

0:38:37.280 --> 0:38:39.719
<v Speaker 5>Stand While steele was At, brixton he had the job

0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:42.640
<v Speaker 5>to take food in the day's newspapers around to his fellow,

0:38:42.680 --> 0:38:45.319
<v Speaker 5>inmates and the newspapers all had like names on, them like,

0:38:45.320 --> 0:38:47.719
<v Speaker 5>okay this IS i think it's basically you sign up

0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:48.480
<v Speaker 5>for the, paper.

0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:48.880
<v Speaker 4>So we've got this.

0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 5>List so he knew That cecil wanted the. Papers he

0:38:52.120 --> 0:38:55.000
<v Speaker 5>brings a miss papers and as The Daily telegraph, Reported

0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:59.239
<v Speaker 5>Old Bobby steel testified AND i, quote On march, TENTH

0:38:59.320 --> 0:39:01.399
<v Speaker 5>i delivered to pay but To, swanland AND i did

0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:03.480
<v Speaker 5>not know him, before but each man's name was on

0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:05.799
<v Speaker 5>the top of his. Paper LATER i read my own

0:39:05.840 --> 0:39:09.080
<v Speaker 5>newspaper and saw a Mister swanland had been arrested in

0:39:09.160 --> 0:39:12.279
<v Speaker 5>connection with The croydon gold. Case so, now being an,

0:39:12.320 --> 0:39:12.960
<v Speaker 5>inmate he's, like.

0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:13.520
<v Speaker 2>Bro what's the.

0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:16.080
<v Speaker 5>Story so next time he brings the food, around he

0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:18.319
<v Speaker 5>goes and he gets curious about his fellow. Inmates so

0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:21.320
<v Speaker 5>back to The telegraph's coverage of the, TRIAL A steel

0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:25.360
<v Speaker 5>testified and AGAIN i, quote next, day during a conversation With,

0:39:25.440 --> 0:39:28.200
<v Speaker 5>SWANLAND i, said that was a smart job you pulled.

0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:31.000
<v Speaker 5>Off he, said, yes BUT i think somebody has shopped.

0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:33.880
<v Speaker 5>ME i, said why worry if you have the, stuff he,

0:39:33.920 --> 0:39:36.439
<v Speaker 5>said oh, Yes i've got that well. Planted they will

0:39:36.440 --> 0:39:36.839
<v Speaker 5>never get.

0:39:36.880 --> 0:39:38.640
<v Speaker 4>THAT i love their posh.

0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:39.719
<v Speaker 2>Accent thank you.

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:44.080
<v Speaker 5>Run so that would seem like a rather damning, Testimony

0:39:44.120 --> 0:39:47.080
<v Speaker 5>but Old Bobby steele wasn't. Done he next. TESTIFIED i,

0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:50.279
<v Speaker 5>replied you are all right if you've got, that and he,

0:39:50.400 --> 0:39:53.240
<v Speaker 5>said detectives have been to my place and have raked

0:39:53.280 --> 0:39:55.920
<v Speaker 5>out ashes and have found some clips in burned. Wood

0:39:56.239 --> 0:39:58.799
<v Speaker 5>they say that these clips were specifically made for the

0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:01.759
<v Speaker 5>boxes that we chopped boxes up and burned. Them so

0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:05.080
<v Speaker 5>he's now corroborating everything that the landlady. SAID i, mean,

0:40:05.160 --> 0:40:07.319
<v Speaker 5>like damn, son have you ever heard of keeping your damn?

0:40:07.360 --> 0:40:07.560
<v Speaker 2>Mouse?

0:40:07.600 --> 0:40:08.160
<v Speaker 4>Shu, yes.

0:40:08.239 --> 0:40:11.480
<v Speaker 2>Exactly SO i guess you. Know and he's in, prison he's.

0:40:11.520 --> 0:40:15.840
<v Speaker 4>Bored i've said this. Before there's some people need to be.

0:40:15.880 --> 0:40:19.560
<v Speaker 4>Told you don't always have to say. Something it's. Okay

0:40:20.000 --> 0:40:22.360
<v Speaker 4>it's okay to just be. Quiet it's okay to not,

0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 4>share maybe.

0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:26.120
<v Speaker 5>Talk, about like you, know the football scorer or the

0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:28.680
<v Speaker 5>rugby whatever's going on that's also in the pace.

0:40:28.560 --> 0:40:32.120
<v Speaker 4>He's asking those. Questions just you just don't always have to.

0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:37.279
<v Speaker 5>Comment what's the news on the, continent you. Know so

0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:40.160
<v Speaker 5>at this point in the, trial the defense team gets

0:40:40.160 --> 0:40:42.120
<v Speaker 5>to work and they call a witness from The brixton

0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:44.759
<v Speaker 5>prison like of their, own but this witness is a

0:40:44.800 --> 0:40:49.120
<v Speaker 5>prison officer Named Robert. White And Robert white he testifies

0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:53.480
<v Speaker 5>AND i, quote circumstances made it impossible For swanland And

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:55.799
<v Speaker 5>steele to have had a conversation that. MORNING i Guess

0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:59.239
<v Speaker 5>steele has, alleged so he basically refutes it. All, yeah

0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:01.439
<v Speaker 5>we got a prison guard Going those people weren't even

0:41:01.480 --> 0:41:01.879
<v Speaker 5>in the same.

0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:05.440
<v Speaker 4>Block, Interesting, yeah that prison guard who Knows.

0:41:05.280 --> 0:41:07.560
<v Speaker 5>So with his confession now placed in, doubt the defense

0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:09.239
<v Speaker 5>rests and it's all left up to the.

0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:09.640
<v Speaker 2>Jury.

0:41:09.840 --> 0:41:12.360
<v Speaker 5>Yeah Those this trial only lasts three. Days it's not

0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:15.280
<v Speaker 5>a long. Trial the jury deliberates for just fifteen. Minutes

0:41:15.400 --> 0:41:18.359
<v Speaker 5>oh you, know that's never a good. Time they come

0:41:18.400 --> 0:41:22.360
<v Speaker 5>back with a result of. Guilty bang, bang So Cecil

0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:24.640
<v Speaker 5>swanlin the man who can't go straight and is sentenced

0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:27.239
<v Speaker 5>to seven years in. Prison, wow, yep send him right.

0:41:27.280 --> 0:41:30.320
<v Speaker 5>Back and after that first, trial next comes the trial

0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:33.960
<v Speaker 5>Of Shock mazarda And john. O'Brien, yeah so they get tried,

0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:37.680
<v Speaker 5>separately and in the opening argument the prosecution they lay

0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:40.960
<v Speaker 5>out their physical. Evidence they have the half burned seals

0:41:40.960 --> 0:41:43.560
<v Speaker 5>connecting them to the gold. Shipment they have the nails

0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:45.920
<v Speaker 5>which connect them to the strong. Box they have a

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:48.480
<v Speaker 5>wire key that could have been used to open the strong.

0:41:48.520 --> 0:41:52.120
<v Speaker 5>Box this Prosecutor Graham. Brooks he tells those in the

0:41:52.120 --> 0:41:55.680
<v Speaker 5>courtroom that the wire key, quote although it fits the

0:41:55.760 --> 0:41:58.319
<v Speaker 5>lock and turns the levels to a certain, degree it

0:41:58.360 --> 0:42:01.600
<v Speaker 5>does not completely open at any rate in the hands

0:42:01.600 --> 0:42:04.520
<v Speaker 5>of the police and. Myself the suggestion of the prosecution

0:42:04.600 --> 0:42:06.600
<v Speaker 5>will be that it might be used to turn the

0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:10.960
<v Speaker 5>lock by a person of unusual. Skill the implication is

0:42:11.000 --> 0:42:13.960
<v Speaker 5>Either Cecil swanlin or old Man john O'Neil is the

0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:19.320
<v Speaker 5>person of unusual skills. Exactly, now for the second, trial

0:42:19.360 --> 0:42:23.200
<v Speaker 5>beyond the physical, evidence the prosecution also has i, say

0:42:23.640 --> 0:42:27.960
<v Speaker 5>three key. Eyewitnesses there is the Cyclist Alfred George, king

0:42:28.440 --> 0:42:32.080
<v Speaker 5>the Landlady Missus, schultz and the cab Driver George. Manson

0:42:32.360 --> 0:42:34.640
<v Speaker 5>so they don't have. Lego we got prison guards and

0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:38.200
<v Speaker 5>a prison. Inmate we've got the key, people so all

0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:40.440
<v Speaker 5>of whom can connect the men to the gold or

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:43.960
<v Speaker 5>The Croydon. Aerodrome, however remember How shock mazarda was a

0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:46.360
<v Speaker 5>connected man from The sabini. Gang, yes and you remember

0:42:46.360 --> 0:42:48.680
<v Speaker 5>How Missus schultz testified that she'd been threatened by a

0:42:48.719 --> 0:42:50.920
<v Speaker 5>stranger before her testimony Against Cecil.

0:42:50.960 --> 0:42:52.319
<v Speaker 4>Schwarmers well you can.

0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:55.800
<v Speaker 5>Likely guess what that means for these. Eyewitnesses, also remember

0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:59.440
<v Speaker 5>the cab Driver george He. Manson he admitted to the

0:42:59.440 --> 0:43:02.200
<v Speaker 5>police that he Known Shock mazar over twenty maybe thirty,

0:43:02.280 --> 0:43:04.799
<v Speaker 5>years which implies that he knows he's in tight with

0:43:04.880 --> 0:43:07.600
<v Speaker 5>The sabinia gang, exactly and he's well aware what The

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:10.399
<v Speaker 5>Sabini gang is capable, of, right and you, know once

0:43:10.440 --> 0:43:13.440
<v Speaker 5>again AS i, said it's A london cabby with an impeccable.

0:43:13.440 --> 0:43:13.960
<v Speaker 2>Memory so he.

0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:16.000
<v Speaker 5>Goes he's called to the stand and he's supposed to

0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:18.839
<v Speaker 5>give his eyewitness. Testimony but rather than me tell you About,

0:43:18.840 --> 0:43:21.080
<v Speaker 5>Elizabeth i'd like you to close your eyes as a

0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:28.399
<v Speaker 5>Close i'd like you to picture. It it's been a long.

0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:30.799
<v Speaker 5>Day you've been in court since it opened its doors this.

0:43:30.880 --> 0:43:34.120
<v Speaker 5>Morning you're working as a reporter covering this Second Croydon

0:43:34.160 --> 0:43:37.600
<v Speaker 5>aerodrum heist. Trial you adjust your body in the hard

0:43:37.640 --> 0:43:41.640
<v Speaker 5>backed wooden, seat exhale your frustrations and, exhaustion and then

0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:43.799
<v Speaker 5>you look up to see the next witness as he

0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:47.160
<v Speaker 5>gets situated in the witness. Stand the witness Is George,

0:43:47.160 --> 0:43:49.920
<v Speaker 5>manson the cab. Driver his testimony is key for the.

0:43:49.920 --> 0:43:52.799
<v Speaker 5>Prosecution you put your pencil to, pad ready to take.

0:43:52.880 --> 0:43:56.600
<v Speaker 5>Notes the prosecutor Asks George manson to identify. Himself he.

0:43:56.680 --> 0:43:59.640
<v Speaker 5>Does the prosecutor asks him if the men who rode

0:43:59.640 --> 0:44:02.480
<v Speaker 5>in his to The Croydon aerodrome are in the. Courtroom

0:44:02.640 --> 0:44:05.040
<v Speaker 5>the cab driver looks At Shaq mazarda and then at

0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:07.920
<v Speaker 5>the Older john, O'Neil and he, SAYS i don't recognize those. Men.

0:44:08.040 --> 0:44:10.600
<v Speaker 5>NO a few people in the gallery kind of gasp in.

0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:13.400
<v Speaker 5>Surprise you look up from your. Notepad you had not.

0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:17.040
<v Speaker 5>Expected that is the key witness lying about what he

0:44:17.160 --> 0:44:20.480
<v Speaker 5>saw and experienced that fateful. Morning sure seems like. It

0:44:20.719 --> 0:44:23.200
<v Speaker 5>the prosecutor seems a bit, irritated but he maintains his.

0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:26.440
<v Speaker 5>Composure he asked the chief magistrate to treat the witness's.

0:44:26.480 --> 0:44:29.480
<v Speaker 5>Hostile the magistrate a sense this is about to get.

0:44:29.520 --> 0:44:32.200
<v Speaker 5>Good the prosecutor grabs paperwork from his desk and he

0:44:32.280 --> 0:44:35.400
<v Speaker 5>reads aloud from the cab driver's initial statements from the

0:44:35.400 --> 0:44:38.640
<v Speaker 5>police lineup when he Identified Shack mazarta And john. O'Brien

0:44:39.040 --> 0:44:42.400
<v Speaker 5>the cab driver shakes his head, SAYS i don't remember saying. That,

0:44:42.480 --> 0:44:45.919
<v Speaker 5>now the prosecutor asked him if anyone approached him about

0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:48.719
<v Speaker 5>his testimony in the. Trial the cab driver rolls his

0:44:48.800 --> 0:44:51.160
<v Speaker 5>eyes and says, again he doesn't remember what he. Said

0:44:51.719 --> 0:44:54.400
<v Speaker 5>the prosecutor walks up to the witness stand reminds the

0:44:54.440 --> 0:44:57.680
<v Speaker 5>cab driver he is under, Oath the prosecutor Asked George

0:44:57.719 --> 0:45:00.920
<v Speaker 5>manson if his testimony at the time was in. Accurate in,

0:45:00.960 --> 0:45:03.920
<v Speaker 5>Response manson, says, Truthfully, GOVERNANCE i don't recall WHAT i

0:45:03.960 --> 0:45:07.960
<v Speaker 5>said to the. Kappas the chief magistrate, says, sarcastically you've

0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:11.319
<v Speaker 5>lost your. MEMORY a few laughs break out in the.

0:45:11.360 --> 0:45:14.400
<v Speaker 5>Gallery the hostile witness smiles and starts to play to the.

0:45:14.440 --> 0:45:16.560
<v Speaker 5>Moment he, SAYS i don't trust to believe what the

0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:18.560
<v Speaker 5>police CLAIM i may or may not have.

0:45:18.640 --> 0:45:21.640
<v Speaker 2>Said prosecutor bulldozes. Forward he has the.

0:45:21.680 --> 0:45:24.880
<v Speaker 5>Witness is it true that you've Known Shank mazada for

0:45:24.920 --> 0:45:27.880
<v Speaker 5>twenty or thirty, years which is what you told the.

0:45:27.920 --> 0:45:32.520
<v Speaker 5>Officers cab driver, SAYS i never said. That prosecutor's quick to,

0:45:32.520 --> 0:45:36.120
<v Speaker 5>reply it's right here in your witness. Statement George manson

0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:38.520
<v Speaker 5>can tell he has the crowd and possibly The chief

0:45:38.560 --> 0:45:41.120
<v Speaker 5>magistrate on his, side so now he goes for. Broke he,

0:45:41.160 --> 0:45:43.200
<v Speaker 5>Says i'm not setting what ALL i said to the.

0:45:43.239 --> 0:45:45.440
<v Speaker 5>Police they're not always truthful that, lot you know WHAT i.

0:45:45.440 --> 0:45:47.160
<v Speaker 5>Mean there's some snickers of.

0:45:47.200 --> 0:45:47.719
<v Speaker 2>Laughter in the.

0:45:47.719 --> 0:45:50.400
<v Speaker 5>Gallery you're scribbling notes as fast as you. Can the

0:45:50.440 --> 0:45:53.799
<v Speaker 5>prosecutor reads aloud more of the cab driver's statement to

0:45:53.840 --> 0:45:55.959
<v Speaker 5>the police about how the men returned to his cab

0:45:56.120 --> 0:45:58.200
<v Speaker 5>after he dropped them off near the airfield and he

0:45:58.320 --> 0:46:01.319
<v Speaker 5>was told what to wait. There prosecutor asks, him did

0:46:01.360 --> 0:46:04.080
<v Speaker 5>you say? That the cab driver, says, NAH i don't

0:46:04.080 --> 0:46:07.360
<v Speaker 5>remember saying. It some more snickers of laughter sound in

0:46:07.400 --> 0:46:09.600
<v Speaker 5>the gallery of The Chief magistry has to bang his

0:46:09.680 --> 0:46:13.200
<v Speaker 5>gavel to restore quiet to the. Courtroom you scribbled notes

0:46:13.320 --> 0:46:16.040
<v Speaker 5>at a frantic, pace trying to keep. Up this trial

0:46:16.239 --> 0:46:18.200
<v Speaker 5>just went fully. Sideways this is going to be a

0:46:18.239 --> 0:46:21.800
<v Speaker 5>hell of a. Story the prosecutor is now. Livid, Meanwhile

0:46:21.840 --> 0:46:25.080
<v Speaker 5>George manson takes the moment to repeat. HIMSELF i can

0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:28.200
<v Speaker 5>say That Shaq mazada definitely was not one of the

0:46:28.200 --> 0:46:31.600
<v Speaker 5>men in me. CAB a few surprised guests sound in the,

0:46:31.600 --> 0:46:34.200
<v Speaker 5>crowd along with a smattering of laughter and titters of.

0:46:34.239 --> 0:46:37.960
<v Speaker 5>Amusement the prosecutor tries to fight. It he, says did.

0:46:37.719 --> 0:46:38.520
<v Speaker 2>You not say?

0:46:38.600 --> 0:46:42.120
<v Speaker 5>This AND i drove him with two others to Three Pemberton.

0:46:42.280 --> 0:46:45.440
<v Speaker 5>Road George manson sneers or, Buffs i'm not sure IF

0:46:45.480 --> 0:46:49.319
<v Speaker 5>i said that or. Not the prosecutor is quick to

0:46:49.320 --> 0:46:51.560
<v Speaker 5>follow and did you go on to, SAY i have

0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:54.480
<v Speaker 5>no doubt whatever in my mind that he is the.

0:46:54.520 --> 0:46:58.359
<v Speaker 5>Man cab driver says with a sly. Smile now this

0:46:58.400 --> 0:47:00.840
<v Speaker 5>elicits a few more laughs from the g and the cabby,

0:47:00.880 --> 0:47:05.200
<v Speaker 5>CONTINUES i did SAY i was very. Doubtful the prosecutor

0:47:05.280 --> 0:47:08.719
<v Speaker 5>returns To George manson's sign police statement and asks the cab,

0:47:08.800 --> 0:47:13.160
<v Speaker 5>driver you identified mister O'Brien and signed this statement to that,

0:47:13.280 --> 0:47:16.080
<v Speaker 5>effect and you made no protest before signing.

0:47:16.080 --> 0:47:19.440
<v Speaker 2>It, yes cab driver, SAYS i practically.

0:47:18.920 --> 0:47:20.839
<v Speaker 5>Did not know WHERE i. WAS i did not know

0:47:20.880 --> 0:47:24.080
<v Speaker 5>WHAT i was. Signing the gallery erupts into, laugh and

0:47:24.120 --> 0:47:26.560
<v Speaker 5>the Chief magistrate is also on the edge of, laughter

0:47:26.560 --> 0:47:28.960
<v Speaker 5>but he bangs his gabble to restore the decora of his,

0:47:29.040 --> 0:47:32.279
<v Speaker 5>courtroom and this time you also have to stifle the dark.

0:47:32.400 --> 0:47:36.600
<v Speaker 5>Laugh the prosecutor's case looks to be, doomed and at

0:47:36.600 --> 0:47:39.239
<v Speaker 5>this point the defense attorney stands to address The Chief

0:47:39.280 --> 0:47:43.080
<v Speaker 5>magistrate and this line of. Testimony he, says Mister manson's

0:47:43.080 --> 0:47:45.200
<v Speaker 5>testimony is the only credible, evidence and THUS i do

0:47:45.280 --> 0:47:47.040
<v Speaker 5>not think it's credible to convict the.

0:47:47.080 --> 0:47:49.520
<v Speaker 2>Defendant your pencil scribbles notes.

0:47:49.280 --> 0:47:51.960
<v Speaker 5>As fast as you, can because you, know now you

0:47:52.120 --> 0:47:55.120
<v Speaker 5>have gold in your. Hands this is a front page

0:47:55.160 --> 0:47:58.520
<v Speaker 5>story because this case is. Busted the key witness is

0:47:58.600 --> 0:48:01.239
<v Speaker 5>lying his ass, off and there's no thing anyone can

0:48:01.320 --> 0:48:01.800
<v Speaker 5>do about.

0:48:01.840 --> 0:48:03.640
<v Speaker 2>It there you, Go Elizabeth.

0:48:03.680 --> 0:48:07.799
<v Speaker 5>Boom just like, that the trials Against Shawk mazarta And

0:48:07.880 --> 0:48:09.799
<v Speaker 5>john O'Brien goes off the.

0:48:09.920 --> 0:48:13.800
<v Speaker 4>Rail the threats the taxi driver must have, gone.

0:48:13.680 --> 0:48:14.520
<v Speaker 2>Threats and possibly.

0:48:14.560 --> 0:48:16.400
<v Speaker 5>PAYMENTS i mean he may have had kids who you,

0:48:16.480 --> 0:48:18.480
<v Speaker 5>know he wanted to go on to better schools and,

0:48:18.560 --> 0:48:21.440
<v Speaker 5>like oh, Yeah UNI's coming, up you, know so so

0:48:21.520 --> 0:48:24.040
<v Speaker 5>much for the impeccable memory of A london cab. Driver,

0:48:24.280 --> 0:48:27.440
<v Speaker 5>YEAH i guess that doesn't overcome the corruption of The british.

0:48:27.520 --> 0:48:30.800
<v Speaker 5>Underworld so the cab driver's suddenly questionable memory and his

0:48:30.920 --> 0:48:34.040
<v Speaker 5>general hostility as a witness becomes such a big problem

0:48:34.040 --> 0:48:36.920
<v Speaker 5>for the prosecution that when the trial, ends the jury

0:48:36.920 --> 0:48:38.919
<v Speaker 5>deliberates and they come back with an.

0:48:38.840 --> 0:48:39.919
<v Speaker 2>Acquittal for both.

0:48:40.000 --> 0:48:43.800
<v Speaker 5>Men both men walk with, wow plenty of evidence and

0:48:43.880 --> 0:48:46.560
<v Speaker 5>nail them dead to. Rights and they even have Cecil

0:48:46.600 --> 0:48:49.640
<v Speaker 5>swan which they for whatever, reason they are not able

0:48:49.680 --> 0:48:52.600
<v Speaker 5>to pin. Them but you, know once they've raised the

0:48:52.640 --> 0:48:55.960
<v Speaker 5>specter of, doubt it shrouds everything that's. Crazy, yes and

0:48:56.000 --> 0:48:58.920
<v Speaker 5>the mystery, Man Old Little. Harry he's never found by the,

0:48:58.920 --> 0:49:01.319
<v Speaker 5>police so he's never to face, justice so you could

0:49:01.400 --> 0:49:04.440
<v Speaker 5>say he also. Walks, Sure so basically three of the

0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:07.080
<v Speaker 5>four guys do. Nothing only one of the highest crew

0:49:07.160 --> 0:49:09.520
<v Speaker 5>to be thrown into prison Is Old Cecil swanlin aka

0:49:09.640 --> 0:49:10.600
<v Speaker 5>the man who can't go.

0:49:10.719 --> 0:49:12.399
<v Speaker 2>Straight just his bad.

0:49:12.480 --> 0:49:15.080
<v Speaker 5>Luck now you may be wondering what about the, Golds,

0:49:15.200 --> 0:49:17.240
<v Speaker 5>erron did the police ever locate the stolen?

0:49:17.280 --> 0:49:19.600
<v Speaker 4>Gold And, Saron i'm glad you asked these sort of.

0:49:19.600 --> 0:49:21.799
<v Speaker 5>THINGS i, know, right BUT i just take it from.

0:49:21.800 --> 0:49:27.360
<v Speaker 5>YOU i learned it from watching. You it's to Paraphrase Amy. Winehouse, no, no.

0:49:27.360 --> 0:49:30.800
<v Speaker 5>No BUT i should add that the young Missus Margaret,

0:49:30.880 --> 0:49:33.560
<v Speaker 5>swanland the twenty one year old newlywed wife of The

0:49:33.600 --> 0:49:36.240
<v Speaker 5>man who can't go, straight, Right she does get evictim

0:49:36.239 --> 0:49:38.200
<v Speaker 5>from her lodgings and is forced to move back home

0:49:38.200 --> 0:49:40.880
<v Speaker 5>with her mom In soho or her mom In.

0:49:41.000 --> 0:49:42.479
<v Speaker 2>Soho and it.

0:49:42.440 --> 0:49:44.319
<v Speaker 5>Was noted though at the, time that she suddenly had

0:49:44.320 --> 0:49:46.400
<v Speaker 5>a rather sizeable bank account after the trial was.

0:49:46.400 --> 0:49:47.800
<v Speaker 4>Over oh, Interesting so there is.

0:49:47.840 --> 0:49:50.200
<v Speaker 5>That but they couldn't somehow prove that at any the

0:49:50.239 --> 0:49:53.719
<v Speaker 5>connection to the. Heist and if you're still wondering how

0:49:53.760 --> 0:49:56.320
<v Speaker 5>these guys pulled off the, job like was this an inside?

0:49:56.400 --> 0:49:59.080
<v Speaker 5>Job what did they do when they were actually in the,

0:49:59.239 --> 0:50:01.160
<v Speaker 5>ROOM i CAN i tell you. That two years, later

0:50:01.239 --> 0:50:04.600
<v Speaker 5>nineteen thirty, Seven Shank mazarta was interviewed again by the.

0:50:04.600 --> 0:50:07.359
<v Speaker 5>Police he gets asked about the gold, heist and after

0:50:07.400 --> 0:50:09.560
<v Speaker 5>his court case blew up and since he was, acquitted

0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:12.719
<v Speaker 5>he confesses to the police that he personally obtained a

0:50:12.800 --> 0:50:15.440
<v Speaker 5>copy of the keys to the strong room from a

0:50:15.480 --> 0:50:18.680
<v Speaker 5>man Named Bert Well. Peters, now the reason we have

0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:21.319
<v Speaker 5>not heard Of Burt Well peters is he wasn't part

0:50:21.360 --> 0:50:23.719
<v Speaker 5>of the security, protocol but he had a copy of

0:50:23.719 --> 0:50:25.560
<v Speaker 5>the keys to give him because he was the chief

0:50:25.640 --> 0:50:29.640
<v Speaker 5>unloader at The Croydon. Aerodrome he's basically like their version

0:50:29.680 --> 0:50:32.239
<v Speaker 5>of like a team, stir you. Know so for the active,

0:50:32.320 --> 0:50:35.120
<v Speaker 5>criminals this active criminal, kindness he gets paid a substantial.

0:50:35.160 --> 0:50:38.319
<v Speaker 5>Amount and so, yes it was an inside. Job oh,

0:50:38.600 --> 0:50:40.160
<v Speaker 5>Man oh, no it was very much a sort of

0:50:40.160 --> 0:50:42.360
<v Speaker 5>heist you'd expect from, LIKE i don't, Know Tommy shelby

0:50:42.360 --> 0:50:44.920
<v Speaker 5>and The Peaky blinders. Exactly in this, case it was

0:50:44.960 --> 0:50:48.120
<v Speaker 5>his real life Rival sabini and his. Gang and, ultimately

0:50:48.440 --> 0:50:51.920
<v Speaker 5>Since Shank mazarta was a getaway driver For, sabini he

0:50:52.000 --> 0:50:53.560
<v Speaker 5>never had to feel that he had to fear the

0:50:53.600 --> 0:50:56.839
<v Speaker 5>police because the police are basically On sabini's. Payroll, yeah

0:50:56.920 --> 0:50:58.760
<v Speaker 5>so he's, Like sabini will take care of the, police

0:50:58.800 --> 0:50:59.440
<v Speaker 5>will take care of.

0:50:59.440 --> 0:51:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Me i'm. Good.

0:51:00.040 --> 0:51:04.280
<v Speaker 5>Good so he got to live on and Uh london

0:51:04.280 --> 0:51:06.839
<v Speaker 5>in the nineteen, Thirties, yeah my, goodness when the real

0:51:06.880 --> 0:51:09.719
<v Speaker 5>World Peggy blinders was fully going. Down So, ELIZABETH i

0:51:09.760 --> 0:51:10.480
<v Speaker 5>got to ask, you what's a?

0:51:10.560 --> 0:51:16.399
<v Speaker 4>Ridiculous, YEAH i am so tickled by how clumsy they. Were,

0:51:16.640 --> 0:51:19.400
<v Speaker 4>yes that they have wrap sheets or they have criminal,

0:51:19.400 --> 0:51:21.759
<v Speaker 4>connections AND i, guess like you're, saying this notion of

0:51:22.080 --> 0:51:23.000
<v Speaker 4>sabinial take, care.

0:51:23.160 --> 0:51:24.640
<v Speaker 2>Untouchable so that's why they didn't.

0:51:24.680 --> 0:51:26.840
<v Speaker 5>Care that's why they're spending money on gold cuff lenks

0:51:27.080 --> 0:51:29.640
<v Speaker 5>yet taking a cab driver right to The.

0:51:29.320 --> 0:51:32.359
<v Speaker 4>They got away with it though it worked right one.

0:51:32.440 --> 0:51:33.719
<v Speaker 4>Dude but, yeah.

0:51:33.480 --> 0:51:36.040
<v Speaker 5>That's because LIKE i, THINK i don't know what's up.

0:51:36.200 --> 0:51:39.759
<v Speaker 5>CESSIBLE i didn't like, him was not. LIKABLE i don't

0:51:39.760 --> 0:51:42.520
<v Speaker 5>THINK i think the other Two john O'Brien and And

0:51:42.600 --> 0:51:45.239
<v Speaker 5>Sean mazarda are part of The sabini. GANG i think

0:51:45.280 --> 0:51:47.759
<v Speaker 5>he brought them THE i, think and therefore he didn't

0:51:47.760 --> 0:51:50.400
<v Speaker 5>get protected. Exactly he'd just gotten out of, jail SO

0:51:50.440 --> 0:51:52.359
<v Speaker 5>i think it's like he was trying to get back

0:51:52.360 --> 0:51:54.120
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<v Speaker 4>successful which is, ridiculous right your.

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<v Speaker 5>TAKEAWAY i just love this one because it involves like

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<v Speaker 5>belgium and they're just, like, yeah we heard about, this

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<v Speaker 5>and just taking whatever this dilapidated little car was and

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<v Speaker 5>all like it's kind of. QUAINT i just was like

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<v Speaker 5>a total Gold heights but like super like one of

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<v Speaker 5>your Cozy british, mysteries SO i thought you might enjoy.

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<v Speaker 7>FACT i think that's HOW i stump about to this wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, yeah make it out a hard. Thing we appreciate, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Honey so thank. You that was.

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