WEBVTT - Jared Greenberg on the NBA Playoffs

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<v Speaker 1>On this mini episode of the Heat Check, we have

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<v Speaker 1>a special interview with Jared Greenberg, NBA TNT reporter, here

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<v Speaker 1>to help us break down the second round of the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, it was a good one. Let's not waste

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<v Speaker 1>any more time, Anthony drop that motherfucking beat that should

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<v Speaker 1>be Rihanna. All right, Jared Greenberg is here from GMG

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<v Speaker 1>give us a perspective to the NBA play Jared enjoyed

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<v Speaker 1>my other show, that m Jena Knight, where I was

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<v Speaker 1>joined by michaelos Ryan horvat Beam Jam the Night. As

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<v Speaker 1>I have said many times before, airs Monday through Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>seven to eleven Eastern on the radio in most national

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<v Speaker 1>markets and also live on YouTube and on Twitch. Great

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with Jared. He actually gave us some time right

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<v Speaker 1>after jumping off the plane into OKC before the OKC

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<v Speaker 1>MAVs game, so he was live and on the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>His perspective was very valuable. So let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 2>We welcome out now Jared Greenberg, NBA on TNT reporter,

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<v Speaker 2>NBA TV host and reporter as well. Jared, thanks so

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<v Speaker 2>much for giving us some time. Busy time for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm guessing obviously what do you think about this series?

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<v Speaker 1>Man?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think once we got midway point of

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<v Speaker 2>the regular season, a lot of people did expect the

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<v Speaker 2>Knicks to be here, to be able to win a

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<v Speaker 2>playoff series, maybe to be a threat even to Boston

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<v Speaker 2>if we get to the Eastern Conference finals, Pacers a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of a surprise because Milwaukee was dealing with

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<v Speaker 2>so many injuries. Your thoughts just initially on what we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to see in this series and who you like?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, I think that this is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be I think it has a chance to be a

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<v Speaker 3>competitive series, but I do see the Knicks winning this one,

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<v Speaker 3>probably five maybe six games. I just think that the

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<v Speaker 3>Knicks approach throughout the course of the regular season has

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<v Speaker 3>led to them being where they are now, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>really happy to see it. It's really weird for me

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<v Speaker 3>to talk glowingly about the Knicks the way I have

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<v Speaker 3>over the last couple of weeks, because that's not usually

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<v Speaker 3>in my nature, as most New York Knick fans will

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<v Speaker 3>tell you. But I just think that they have taken

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<v Speaker 3>this anti load management approach and that's the reason why

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<v Speaker 3>they beat the Sixers, and ultimately, I think while they

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<v Speaker 3>will probably have to go deeper into their bench against

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<v Speaker 3>the Pacers just because of some matchups that will favor them.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that they're more prepared for these moments than

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<v Speaker 3>Indiana is.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's funny because the knock on TIBs, especially

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<v Speaker 2>when he was in Chicago's that he runs his players

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<v Speaker 2>into the ground. Do you think any other head coach

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<v Speaker 2>would have this Knicks team here in the second round

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<v Speaker 2>playing like this this season?

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<v Speaker 3>And listen, I do think he runs his players into

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<v Speaker 3>the ground. And I do think long term, we may

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<v Speaker 3>ultimately in five years or so, look back and say,

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<v Speaker 3>guys like Josh Harden Jalen Brunson maybe don't have the longevity.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe that is the case. I'm not sure we certainly

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<v Speaker 3>he saw it with plenty of guys over the course

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<v Speaker 3>of his years in Chicago and briefly in Minnesota. But

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<v Speaker 3>I just think for this team it makes sense, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think oftentimes it's cliche. We use it in college

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<v Speaker 3>a lot, like oh, these guys take on the approach

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<v Speaker 3>or the charisma of their coach, and usually it's not true.

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<v Speaker 3>This time that it really is true.

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<v Speaker 1>Who do you think is going to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>stop Jalen Brunson because he's the king of rejecting the screen.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the king of his fast twitch muscles, getting him

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<v Speaker 1>to spots that you don't even know he's at before

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<v Speaker 1>he's already there. I think I saw that aaron Ne

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<v Speaker 1>Smith has been getting cooked, Andrew Nemhart has some more success.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're the Pacers, obviously it starts at the

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<v Speaker 1>head of the snake. What do you think Rick Carlisle does,

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<v Speaker 1>who's obviously very familiar with Jalen Brunson as his form

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<v Speaker 1>erer coach, to slow him down.

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<v Speaker 3>And by the way, I think that's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>a fantastic secondary subplot to this series is how much

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<v Speaker 3>Jalen Brunson wants to take it out on Rick Carlisle,

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<v Speaker 3>who didn't give him as much run. And maybe listen,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not here to say that Ricardli was wrong. I

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<v Speaker 3>just think at that point of his career, Brunson wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>ready for the type of role he has now. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think too many times we don't realize how it

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<v Speaker 3>takes years of development to get guys to where they are.

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<v Speaker 3>Not everybody is Victor Webbinyama, but I think that they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to probably try and go small with guys like

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<v Speaker 3>TJ McConnell, which Brunson's a big dude, like he could

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<v Speaker 3>be physical with you. So I'm not so sure McConnell

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<v Speaker 3>will work. But maybe they go bigger, right, and maybe

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<v Speaker 3>maybe they try and be more physical with them, and maybe,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we see some switching where Siakam gets them,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm not so sure that's going to be advantageous

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<v Speaker 3>for Indiana either.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's interesting. I watched this Cavaliers magic game yesterday, Jared,

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<v Speaker 1>and it looked like it was going to be night

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<v Speaker 1>Night sleep mask for the Cavs. They come back after

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<v Speaker 1>being down twenty, and the Donovan Mitchell saga continues. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think that you give Cleveland any chance against Boston

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<v Speaker 1>to even get a game or two? And if so,

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<v Speaker 1>how are they going to do it?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't, And listen, as much as that sounds

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<v Speaker 3>like that's a knock on Cleveland, I just think I'm

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<v Speaker 3>all in on Boston. It is the Celtics Invitational right

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<v Speaker 3>now in the Eastern Conference, and I think it behooves

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<v Speaker 3>them to make easy work of Cleveland here in the

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<v Speaker 3>second round, and I think they will in particular, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they Cleveland had a healthy Jared Allen this year, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think what he did, particularly in the defensive side

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<v Speaker 3>of the ball, got underappreciated. I was this close to

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<v Speaker 3>putting Jared Allen on All Defense second team this year

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<v Speaker 3>in the NBA. I stayed away from it just because

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<v Speaker 3>I thought better of it. But him not being completely

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<v Speaker 3>healthy is going to be an issue for Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 1>So what do you think they do really quickly? Just

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<v Speaker 1>to follow up, I wasn't gonna ask this, but now

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<v Speaker 1>Evan Mobley Jared Allen, like, do you think they should

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<v Speaker 1>stay together as a tandem because it feels like Evan

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<v Speaker 1>Mobley's better without Jared Allen in some ways, in some

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<v Speaker 1>ways actually worse.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I mean we've seen this throughout the course of

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<v Speaker 3>the years. You know, we saw withus and Miles Turner.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember several years ago we had the issue in

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<v Speaker 3>Utah with having Derek Favors and Enis Canter. There's just

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<v Speaker 3>some bigs that don't play well together on the same team.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Cleveland is a team that could be patient

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<v Speaker 3>and could be really competitive for a really long time

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<v Speaker 3>to come, but I think ultimately they need to change

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<v Speaker 3>some of their foundational pieces in order to raise their ceiling,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think that's what we're going to see this summer.

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<v Speaker 2>How worried should the Nuggets be, especially the way that

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<v Speaker 2>Ant's playing right now. They have a one to zero

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<v Speaker 2>series lead, They're six and a half point underdogs tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>We're still waiting to see if Rudy Gobert is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to show up to the game or not.

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<v Speaker 2>But how worried should Nuggets be, especially with Jamal Murray

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<v Speaker 2>kind of beat up right now?

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't be. And this is one of those things.

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<v Speaker 3>I was so impressed by what I saw from Minnesota

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<v Speaker 3>the other night. I'm with everybody, I understand it. But

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<v Speaker 3>if we learned anything from the playoffs over the last

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<v Speaker 3>however many years we've all been watching basketball, it's not

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<v Speaker 3>to overreact in one game, particularly when we're talking about

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<v Speaker 3>the team that is head and shoulders the favorite in

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<v Speaker 3>the Western Conference. Now, listen, if Denver loses tonight, particularly

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<v Speaker 3>if Minnesota doesn't have Gobert, then we can have that conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>But I would be stunned if Denver loses this game.

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<v Speaker 3>I would be stunned if they win it by any

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<v Speaker 3>less than double figures.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's a good point. It's been tough though to

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<v Speaker 1>watch because you watch Jamal Murray, who is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth quarter king, the two man game that he

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<v Speaker 1>runs with Jokic, but Minnesota is making things super tough

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<v Speaker 1>on him. How much do you think that that's his

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<v Speaker 1>injury in that calf that he's been dealing with the

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of months, And how much of that would

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<v Speaker 1>you put on what Chris Finch and then boys are

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<v Speaker 1>doing defensively?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm not sure. I only had the pleasure

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<v Speaker 3>of doing one of Denver's games against LA and at

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<v Speaker 3>that point he wasn't dealing with it as much. I

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<v Speaker 3>would just say this, like, as good as Jamal Murray

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<v Speaker 3>is at times, obviously he hit two iconic buzzure beats.

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<v Speaker 3>Understand that, right, That's what we're drawing from. But what

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<v Speaker 3>made Denver so dangerous this year compared to last year

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<v Speaker 3>has their ability to get big time performances from guys

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<v Speaker 3>like Michael Porter Junior and Aaron Gordon. This absolutely they

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<v Speaker 3>could win games without Jamal Murray being a playoff superhero.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I want to get your feedback on this MAVs

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<v Speaker 1>OKC series because Luca he also is dealing with an injury,

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<v Speaker 1>he averaged twenty nine. Even though he was injured against

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<v Speaker 1>the Clippers before the ankle injury, he got thirty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that Okac lays it on the MAVs

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<v Speaker 1>And how competitive do you think this series is?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's where I am. I just got to Oklahoma

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<v Speaker 3>City today. We're all awaiting all these tornadoes that can

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<v Speaker 3>touch down here any minute, so I'm letting them still

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<v Speaker 3>on the air with you guys, But you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>haven't gotten a sense. I'm gonna go talk to the

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<v Speaker 3>Mavericks tomorrow. I spoke to everybody at okay See camp

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<v Speaker 3>today going to practice. I gotta say, like, I'm really

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<v Speaker 3>torn on this series. I don't think we may have

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<v Speaker 3>some lopsided games, but I think this series goes to

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<v Speaker 3>distance and I think ultimately it's one of the more

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<v Speaker 3>competitive series that we have all playoffs long. I can't

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<v Speaker 3>pick a winner right now, and it feels like Luca

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<v Speaker 3>has the ability to overcome anything at this point in

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<v Speaker 3>his career.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think either of those teams is a better

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<v Speaker 2>match up against Denver than the other just because the

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<v Speaker 2>style of play, Like, do you think like if Dallas

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<v Speaker 2>gets through they're a better match up against Denver. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>okay SE's just so young, Like I've tried to make

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<v Speaker 2>the case against them all year, but they're also really

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<v Speaker 2>good defensively. Nobody talks about that.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I agree with you in all the traits that

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<v Speaker 3>you would poke holes in a young team that doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>seem to fit Ryan with with Okac, like their maturity,

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<v Speaker 3>their composure, their play in the clutch this past year

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<v Speaker 3>has been unbelievable. I would say Dallas is a better

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<v Speaker 3>matchup from the standpoint that they have more bodies to

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<v Speaker 3>throw at Jokic. Now that took a bit of a

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<v Speaker 3>hit with the fact that Maxi Claba is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be out for at least this series. I would find

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<v Speaker 3>it hard to believe that he's back for next series.

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<v Speaker 3>But maybe in a miracle world he can be. But still,

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<v Speaker 3>Dallas has an inordinate amount of bodies to throw at

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<v Speaker 3>yokch and Aaron Gordon and Michael Porter Junior with a

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<v Speaker 3>ton of length that would make life very very difficult,

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<v Speaker 3>and in particular two without guys like Bruce Brown who

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<v Speaker 3>they had last year to guard the perimeter, it would

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<v Speaker 3>be tough. It will be tough for Denver to guard Murray,

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<v Speaker 3>to guard Kyrie and Lucas.

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<v Speaker 1>Pat Riley Jared decided, Yeah, he did his best. Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Brady Rose. Everybody was getting thrown under the bus. It

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<v Speaker 1>didn't matter if they were role players, star players, current players,

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<v Speaker 1>former players, or Eric Spostra, who it felt like pat

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<v Speaker 1>Riley said, needs to up his game, offensive scheme and

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<v Speaker 1>defensive scheme. He said that there were only two or

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<v Speaker 1>three players in the league that made sense for him

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<v Speaker 1>to go all in on, or just anyone to go

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<v Speaker 1>all in on. What the hell is happening? And what

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<v Speaker 1>do we gather from his comments today?

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, I have been at the front of the line

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<v Speaker 3>criticizing this whole nonsense of Heat culture over the last

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<v Speaker 3>couple of years now. Prior to that, I got it,

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<v Speaker 3>but I loved every second of what pat Riley did today. Today,

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<v Speaker 3>what he did was throw the gauntlet down and say

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<v Speaker 3>enough is enough. We are getting back to the core

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<v Speaker 3>of who the Miami Heat are, and to me, the

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<v Speaker 3>biggest shots he threw obviously Tyler Hero, but also to

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<v Speaker 3>Jimmy Butler, like the fact that Jimmy Butler chooses picks

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<v Speaker 3>and chooses when he plays regular season games and for

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<v Speaker 3>two straight years put the Heat in such a hole where, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>they dug out of it and got to the NBA

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<v Speaker 3>Finals last year, but the amount of work and effort

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<v Speaker 3>they had to do to get there left them with

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<v Speaker 3>nothing in the tank for the NBA Finals. If Jimmy

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<v Speaker 3>Butler doesn't start to take the regular season more seriously

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<v Speaker 3>and start to put the Heat in a more advantagious

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<v Speaker 3>position going into the playoffs, I don't really understand how

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<v Speaker 3>it benefits Heat culture to have a guy whose only

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<v Speaker 3>playoff Jimmy when when he got there this year, who

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't even available.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a good point, because sometimes I wonder, Jared,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'd love to get your thoughts on this. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it Jimmy picking and choosing, or is Jimmy's body no

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<v Speaker 1>longer able to sustain the eighty two games and he's

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out a way to get his rickety

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<v Speaker 1>old body to get to the playoffs?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe? I mean this kind of brings the conversation full circle, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Tim certainly did play him a whole bunch of minutes

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<v Speaker 3>earlier in his career. I don't know, but it's not

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<v Speaker 3>a good look when you show up to a tennis

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<v Speaker 3>event one day and then you're not available to play

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<v Speaker 3>the next day. Right, Like, there's just too many suspect things.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm not doubting whether Jimmy Butler is injured or not.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doubting his approach with the communication with the team

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<v Speaker 3>and saying, listen, you got to take the you can't

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<v Speaker 3>just take the second half of the NBA regular season

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<v Speaker 3>and then the playoffs. Seriously, You've got to do some

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<v Speaker 3>things as a leader to not put your team. If

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<v Speaker 3>you say you care about your team, you can't put

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<v Speaker 3>your teammates in position in a regular baby to have

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<v Speaker 3>to pick up the slack for you because you're not available.

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<v Speaker 2>Jared, we got about sixty seconds. I'm a big Jason

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<v Speaker 2>Tatum fan, trist that usually gives me a hard time.

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<v Speaker 1>Because don't showing up in the moments.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sometimes he doesn't show up in the clutch. How

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<v Speaker 2>important like for his I hate to be like legacy guy,

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<v Speaker 2>but how important is it for Boston to at least

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<v Speaker 2>get back to the finals and for actually just for him,

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<v Speaker 2>for Boston to win the finals this year?

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<v Speaker 3>It's massive. And that's not to say it's the end

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<v Speaker 3>all be all right. He's got a really long career

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<v Speaker 3>ahead of him. I think we tend to forget because

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<v Speaker 3>of how good he has been or how good the

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<v Speaker 3>Celtics teams have been, that he is still very relatively

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<v Speaker 3>young in his career. But as I mentioned, this is

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<v Speaker 3>the Celtics Invitational in the Eastern Conference. They have to

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<v Speaker 3>come out of the East. There is no excuse for

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<v Speaker 3>them not to come out of the East unless like

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<v Speaker 3>three of their guys are not available. I think that

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<v Speaker 3>they absolutely have to get to the NBA Finals and

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<v Speaker 3>they have to have a good showing. Maybe they don't

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<v Speaker 3>have to win it, but they can't get run out

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<v Speaker 3>of the gym in the NBA Finals.

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<v Speaker 2>Jared, thanks so much for giving us some time man

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy the game tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks, that's all the time. When we after this mini

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