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Speaker 1: Good morning, keeps, and welcome to WIKA, a daily with

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Speaker 1: Meet Your Girl Danielle Moody. Recording from the Home Bunker. Folks,

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Speaker 1: let me tell you something. This show has been prerecorded

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Speaker 1: with my friend MSNBC legal analyst and the host of

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Speaker 1: Justice Matters, Glenn Kirshner. As we are awaiting, we're on

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Speaker 1: indictment watch for Donald Trump and associates. Now, I don't

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Speaker 1: want us to hold our breath around this, right, and

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Speaker 1: this is how I get into the conversation with Glenn,

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Speaker 1: which is that you know, for those of you who

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Speaker 1: have been listening to the show for the past couple

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Speaker 1: of years, Glenn has been coming on weekly, right, laying

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Speaker 1: out all of the legal ease and all of the

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Speaker 1: investigation surrounding Donald Trump and company. It's years, friends, and

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Speaker 1: you know, every couple of months we find out new

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Speaker 1: egregious criminal activity that has gone on, whether it's inside

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Speaker 1: of the administration, whether it was previous to Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: becoming president. We know that everything that this man touches

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Speaker 1: this shit. But somehow he remains a freeman, you know,

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Speaker 1: and that is evidenced by our injustice system. Because if

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump were any other person, if he were a woman,

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Speaker 1: If he were a gay person, If he were black,

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Speaker 1: we know he'd be dead, so let's not even go there.

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Speaker 1: If he were Latin next, if he were any other

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Speaker 1: a part of any other identity groups outside of being

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Speaker 1: a rich, white, sis hetero man who is also the

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Speaker 1: former president of the United States, even being twice impeached,

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Speaker 1: even with the man admitting his crimes on fucking audio,

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Speaker 1: whether it's I can grab them by the pussy, whether

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Speaker 1: it is find me eleven seven hundred and forty votes though,

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Speaker 1: and we'll do the rest. I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 1: what else Donald Trump would have to do. But you know,

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Speaker 1: the other day, I was watching Alex Wagner on MSNBC

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Speaker 1: and she says the truest thing that I have ever heard.

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Speaker 1: She was the only true statement that has ever come

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Speaker 1: out of Donald Trump's mouth is that he could shoot

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Speaker 1: somebody in the middle of Fifth Avenue and watch his

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Speaker 1: poll numbers rise. He also would still be a freeman,

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Speaker 1: and somehow an investigation would be opened against the person

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Speaker 1: that he shot. As opposed to Donald Trump, I'm so

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Speaker 1: fucking tired of bombshell report over here and bombshell had

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Speaker 1: Because without indictments, without a tryal, all of this is

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Speaker 1: in fact a fucking witch hunt, right, Not in the

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Speaker 1: way that Donald Trump says that it's a witch hunt,

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Speaker 1: as if there is no factual evidence that shows criminal activity.

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Speaker 1: But if you're not going to actually persecute a person

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Speaker 1: who is essentially a political mob boss, lying, stealing, grifting

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Speaker 1: just a dog and pony show. It doesn't have any merit, right.

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Speaker 1: It gives you the perception of justice, the perception that

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Speaker 1: nobody is above the law. But if you can't convict

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Speaker 1: someone like Donald Trump, who is caught on tape committing

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Speaker 1: fucking crimes, and you continue to raise the bar, raise

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Speaker 1: the bar, raise the bar where he brought the bar

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Speaker 1: of democracy and of justice to the fucking sewer, that

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Speaker 1: now we've turned the bar into a plunger. I don't

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Speaker 1: know where we go, but I know that the direction

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Speaker 1: that America, our justice system, our democracy, our social safety nets,

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Speaker 1: our freedom is all being rolled backwards. And without indictments,

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Speaker 1: cliff that we are hanging on to with our fucking fingernails.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next my conversation with our friend Glenn Kirshner

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Speaker 1: that what happens if and when Donald Trump is indicted?

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Speaker 1: What can we expect if anything? Folks, you know that

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Speaker 1: whenever I have the opportunity to have our friend MSNBC

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Speaker 1: legal analysts and the host of Justice Matters, Glenn Kirshner,

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Speaker 1: we are prerecording this, but as reports are coming out,

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Speaker 1: but possible indictments for Donald Trump are imminent and that

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Speaker 1: the media from Michael Cohen again, Donald Trump's former lawyer,

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Speaker 1: Both of them have been before for Manhattan Grand Jury.

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Speaker 1: Feels like we have two systems of justice at work there.

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Speaker 1: She is actually not nearly as important as Michael coe

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Speaker 1: they are at the absolute end of their investigation. Is

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Speaker 1: they invited Donald Trump to come in and testify before

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Speaker 1: the grand jury. Danielle, First of all, we rarely do it.

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Speaker 1: We don't do it in violent crime cases. We do

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Speaker 1: what we do is we give the target of the

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Speaker 1: do anything wrong. I didn't commit any crimes. Not surprisingly,

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump did not take the prosecutors up on that invitation.

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Speaker 1: grand jury to vote out indictments against Donald Trump. What

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Speaker 1: nobody knows at this moment is precisely what charges will

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Speaker 1: be included in that indictment. We have heard lots about

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Speaker 1: falsifying business records, which undoubtedly Trump and Cohen did because

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Speaker 1: they weren't. But the concern here is that falsifying business

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Speaker 1: Nobody's going to indict a president for that. But the

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Speaker 1: law of New York also provides that if you're falsifying

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Speaker 1: former twice impeached president of the United States. So the assumption, then, Glenn,

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Speaker 1: It isn't gonna be some lightlifting indictments. So the question

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Speaker 1: at that point, Danielle was only indict the Trump organization

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Speaker 1: right for a fifteen year long criminal scheme to defraud

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump if he ended up being criminally indicted for

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Speaker 1: As always, friend, appreciate you and your analysis. Thanks Daniel,

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Speaker 1: Dear friends on Woke a f as always, Power to

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