1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: The volume. This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. 2 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 2: What is up Straight Firefam? It's me, Jason McIntyre, Straight 3 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 2: Fire or Friday, February sixteenth, it is a holiday weekend ahead. 4 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: It's at least a holiday weekend for me and my family. 5 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: Out here in LA. They have some weird school schedules, 6 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 2: so next week you get an act little time off, 7 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: so your boy will be taking a respite from the podcast, 8 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 2: from TV from everything. I promise, I vowed to my family. 9 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 2: I will not go on Twitter or ex or whatever 10 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 2: you want to call it next week at all. No 11 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 2: podcast will be back the following week, so you won't 12 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: get my deep passionate thoughts about NBA All Star Weekend. 13 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: I mean, it's so crazy that that crept up on 14 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: me this weekend and I'm like, oh, who's in the 15 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: dunk contest? And Rob G's like Jalen Brown. I was like, 16 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: that's strange, okay, And then I saw that Curry's doing 17 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 2: a three point shootout against one of the best w 18 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 2: NBA players and It's like, okay, all right, sure, great, wonderful, 19 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 2: And you know me, I do like a good dunk 20 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 2: contest with my guy Zach Lavine. He's not in it. 21 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: He's injured. I don't know. It's NBA All Star weekend 22 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 2: is a bit of a tough sell. And now since 23 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: we moved out here in LA, they have something called 24 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 2: Ski Week in my area, which is before spring break, 25 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 2: and it's like a almost like a post football break 26 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: that we get. That's how I'm characterizing it. We're not 27 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 2: we don't go skiing. I mean, you know, I don't 28 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: like skiing. I've talked about it at length. So it 29 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: is weird. And it's like the NBA All Star Game 30 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 2: is like, okay, shrug. I'm going to be in a 31 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 2: place from probably not gonna be harving out time on 32 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: Saturday night to watch a dunk contest or the All 33 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: Star Game, even though I do like the All Star Game. 34 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 2: That being said, I want to start the podcast with 35 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: just two NFL things real quick. Sorry, Chicago Bears fans, 36 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: you're gonna be hate what I say in a second. 37 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: But before that, I'm sure you got I saw Apple 38 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: TV is coming out with a new Patriots documentary based 39 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 2: on the book about the two decade dynasty, and if 40 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 2: you guys have seen the teasers, it hints at oh 41 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 2: massive dysfunction, Guys didn't want to get a get out 42 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 2: of the car to go to practice. Belichick treating Brady 43 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: like garbage, and everybody sat for this Craft Belichick, Brady, Welker, Edelman, everybody, 44 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: you name it, they sat. And I don't know. I'm 45 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: always skeptical and I'm sure Rob has the answer to this. 46 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 2: I haven't done the due diligence yet on this aspect. 47 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 2: Who is producing this? Okay? Is this a Belichick person? 48 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: Is this a Brady person? Which side is this slanted tour? 49 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: Because as you guys remember, this podcast started during the 50 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 2: pandemic and the last dance was huge, and people who 51 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: didn't know this should that Michael Jordan had the final 52 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 2: say on every single thing that aired. So yes, it 53 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 2: was gonna put Jordan in the brightest light. And sure 54 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: there were moments that they would make Jordan look mortal, right, 55 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: but of course he would bounce back instantly. There was 56 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: nothing that made him look like he wasn't the greatest 57 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 2: ever because he had final say. That would be my 58 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: number one question on this Who has final say? And 59 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 2: I do have Apple TV. I got it for Messi 60 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: in the MLS, but also for Ted Lasso, which I 61 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 2: highly recommend, and I you know where I work at 62 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: Fox obviously, and Julian Edelman happened to come by the 63 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 2: set this week. He was on the herd. So during 64 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: the commercial break, I'm like, yo, well, what's the story here, like, 65 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,119 Speaker 2: and he's like, dude, I mean essentially, I sat there 66 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 2: for hour and a half, two hours, and they asked 67 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: me the same few questions, maybe twenty times in different ways. 68 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 2: They're you know, they had an agenda, clearly, and he's like, yeah, 69 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: I barely remember what I said. But it's almost like, 70 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: and I've never been I've never been questioned by the police, 71 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: but I can imagine you as you in the movies 72 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 2: where they're trying to get an answer out of you 73 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: to something and they ask it the same fifteen to 74 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 2: twenty different ways, and that's what I imagine they're trying 75 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 2: to do here. And I'm assuming they pulled, like, I 76 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 2: don't know, probably the best five to ten sound bites 77 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: and clipped it off and put it in the trailer, 78 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: and then what's left in the documentary I don't know. 79 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 2: So I'll be honest, it's not at the top of 80 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 2: my viewing as I take a little vacation here. I'm 81 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 2: in the middle of watching this movie Jake Jillenhall The 82 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 2: Covenant by Guy I guess guy. Ritchie's name is in 83 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 2: the title. He's tremendous, as you guys know as a filmmaker. 84 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 2: And it is so tense almost the entire movie that 85 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 2: you're like on the edge of your seat literally, and 86 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: a couple times I had to pause it. And you 87 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 2: guys are gonna hate me for this, but I'm keeping 88 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: it real. Yes, sometimes I will cheat and open the 89 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 2: Wikipedia for the movie and look at plot and see 90 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 2: what happens. Now, Rob, I know that's really embarrassing to 91 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: admit I do do that sometimes, and I did it 92 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 2: for this movie just because I didn't. I don't want 93 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 2: to give away any spoilers, but I thought something really 94 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 2: bad was going to happen, and I felt bad for 95 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: the guy, so I cheated a little bit. But like, 96 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 2: that's where my viewing is Reacher Equalizer three. I'm into those, 97 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 2: and you know, I told you we're watching some other stuff, 98 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: but I don't know Rob this. First of all, I 99 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 2: can't sit down with the wife at and I'd be like, hey, 100 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 2: let's fire up that Patriots thing on Apple too, that's 101 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 2: a non starter. How will you watch this, rob and 102 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 2: what's your interest level? I'm just curious. 103 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I'll definitely will not be watching 104 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: it with the missus. I don't think she gives a 105 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: damn about what went wrong between Tom Brady and Bill Belichick. 106 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: And I'm sure they're probably not going to touch on 107 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: the Robert Kraft massage party. That's probably the most salacious thing. 108 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: Might be interested in it because of her criminal justice background, like, oh, 109 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: that'd be interesting, But anything other than that, I'm sure 110 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: she doesn't care. So I'm probably gonna end up watching it, 111 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: you know, late at night, probably in bed with my 112 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: phone and my AirPods in and just watching it on 113 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: a five inch screen. Probably I'm gonna watch it. I'll 114 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: tell you what. I was very interested in watching the 115 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: documentary until I saw the quotes come out from the 116 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: interviewed players. And obviously I know this works. You know, 117 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: it's part of a teaser, it's part of a trailer. 118 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: It's meant to generate interest leading up to the documentary, right, 119 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: It's meant so that allah guys like you on the Herd, 120 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: and you know, Julian Edelman can have something to talk 121 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: about for twenty minutes on the show as a promotion 122 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: for the upcoming docu series. So I totally get that. 123 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: But when I read the quotes and I saw some 124 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: of the more specific ones that I'm gonna bring up here. 125 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: Matthew Slater saying that the last few years of the 126 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: Brady Belichick area were quote brutal, Gronk saying that he 127 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: had a hard time getting out of his car when 128 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: he pulled up the practice to get out for work. 129 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: That's how uncomfortable everything was. Wes Walker saying that, excuse me, 130 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: Wes Walker comparing Tom Brady to an abused dog for 131 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: continually going back to work for Belichick. Like I had 132 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: a problem with that because Bill Belichick obviously is kind 133 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: of a red ass. I think that's fair to say. 134 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: I don't think i'd be stepping out of turn by 135 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: saying that, because you all see his press conferences, you 136 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: see him even in the trailer to this documentary. He's 137 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: very monotone doesn't seem like he even wants to be there, 138 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: like he's doing it out of some kind of obligation. However, 139 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: none of that's a secret. And last I checked the 140 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: final three years of the Tom Brady, Bill Belichick era 141 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: in New England and with Super Bowl appearance, loss, super 142 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: Bowl victory, and a first round loss. So maybe the 143 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: vibes weren't immaculate as the kids say nowadays. Maybe you know, 144 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: it was kind of a drill sergeant system. And I 145 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: understand that. But if I go down the NFL standings, 146 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: and I say, just based on what we see on 147 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: social media or if we see on HBO Hard Knocks, 148 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: it looks like the Miami Dolphins vibes are immaculate in 149 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: a great time. It looks like the Baltimore Ravens got 150 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: an immaculate vibe there and their practice facility. It looks 151 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: like the Dallas Cowboys have a great time and they 152 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: enjoy being around each other. Those teams don't win at 153 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: the level of the papers won, right. So as much 154 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: as you want to enjoy going to work and you 155 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: want to enjoy the workplace environment, and I totally understand 156 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: that part of it, but when it comes to sports, 157 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: and when it comes even to sports media, you get 158 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: into it to win. Like when you in Colin get 159 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: ready to do the hurt every day, You're not doing 160 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: it because you know, hey, I like talking about sports, 161 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: and you know, this is cool. I have some takes 162 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 1: on this and that that's part of it. But the 163 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: other part of it is, no, I want to have 164 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: the number one rank show, I want to beat my 165 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: competitor at another station in the same time slot. I'm 166 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: in it so that I can be the best. And 167 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:58,479 Speaker 1: sports is the epitome of that. Tom Brady and Bill Belichick. 168 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: We're not grind mean through hours and hours of tape 169 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 1: and going getting after it on practice because they like 170 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: to play football. That's a small part of it. They 171 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: do it because they want to win championships. And for 172 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: all of Bill Belichick's faults and his you know, lack 173 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 1: of personality and his drill sergeant ways, his ways were 174 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: effective for a very very long time. Yeah. I didn't 175 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: like the I didn't like the commentary coming out of 176 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 1: this documentary. 177 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 2: Okay, So I would largely agree with that. It does 178 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 2: feel like Rob look doing some research here. Imagine Documentaries 179 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 2: produced it with the NFL film so the NFL clearly 180 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 2: signed off. One question for you before I tell you 181 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 2: who under Imagine Documentaries is if if Belichick were still coaching, 182 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 2: would we see this now or do you think they 183 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 2: would hold it another year. 184 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: Ooh, so okay, so conspiracy theory. Do you think that 185 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: they knew they were gonna let go of him after 186 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: the season, Because this has been in the works now 187 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 1: for about a year. We've known that it was coming true. 188 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 2: We knew they were interviewing and doing all that. But 189 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 2: I don't know that they knew that when they would release. 190 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: Do you no, they know? That's a good point. I 191 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: know they said that it was in production, So you're right. 192 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: So I'll tell you if he was still coaching the Patriots, 193 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: I don't think this documentary, I would agree. 194 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 2: There's no I can't imagine that it would. So imagine entertainment, 195 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 2: Imagine docu series, Brian Grazer, Ron Howard, big time Hollywood guys. 196 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 2: They've done a ton of awesome shit. So it doesn't 197 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 2: feel like there's anything suspect here. I'm sure some other 198 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 2: conspiracy theorists will dive in, but NFL films being attached 199 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 2: to it. It kind of reminds me of like the 200 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 2: Michael Jordan thing, Like Michael Jordan waited, he sat on 201 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 2: this stuff forever, and as soon as Lebron came back 202 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 2: from down three to one, Michael Jordan's like, let's get 203 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 2: that to let's get let's get it to go right right. 204 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 2: I mean, yep, it almost again. I don't If Brady 205 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 2: decided he's coming back, he's not. He's gonna be a Fox. 206 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: And if Belichick was so, I think they would hold this. 207 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 2: But overall, I don't know. I just you remember how 208 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 2: I had Patriots fatigue. I kind of am not super 209 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: interested in this. I prefer the unvarnish, behind the scenes stuff. 210 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 2: Like if you get somebody on the radio show, there 211 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 2: a radio row before you guys start taping, maybe you're 212 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 2: just chit chatting and you hear some stuff. I mean, 213 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I told you what Shady McCoy was 214 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: saying about Cam Newton was saying at the super Bowl 215 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 2: party to him about me, and you know, the the 216 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 2: Brock party stuff. So another player told me he was 217 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 2: hanging out with some cowboys and you know, the alcohol's 218 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 2: flowing in. There's comments being made about a certain Cowboys 219 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 2: player who some people don't believe in as as a superstar. 220 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 2: And I'm just hearing that and you're they're like, it's 221 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 2: not embellished. This is the real shit. That's what going 222 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 2: on behind the scenes, so I don't know. 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Okay, 246 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 2: according to Schefter, the Bears released Eddie Jackson, their safety 247 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 2: who playmaker forever in Chicago, and Cody White hair guard, 248 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 2: all pro, both of them over thirty years old. And 249 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 2: normally you'd be like, Oh, they're freeing up cap room 250 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 2: to make a run at somebody. But I'm like, hold up, 251 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 2: wait a minute. Eddie Jackson was rumored to be on 252 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 2: the move at the deadline. You're telling me the Bears 253 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 2: could have flipped Jackson and got I don't probably not 254 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 2: a second, But you know, let's just take the Niners. 255 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 2: Rob Hufunga goes down, And you don't think the Niners 256 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 2: were said, yeah, what's it going to take to get 257 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 2: Ed Jackson for our playoff front? You don't think they 258 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 2: would have made a move on them. Jackson was supposedly 259 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 2: being talked about, and are they gonna still let him 260 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 2: sign them. They don't move them. Cody White here, another guy. 261 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 2: The Bears weren't going to the playoffs. Ah, so why 262 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 2: didn't they trade them and get any assets. Well, Rob, 263 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 2: instantly it hit me, well, wait a secon. Ebra Flus 264 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 2: kept his job. Ebra Flues won some meaningless games at 265 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 2: the end, so he ended up with just enough to 266 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 2: make it look respectfuble. I think they went seven and ten, 267 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 2: and they fought hard to the end, and we were 268 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 2: not selling off pieces at the deadline. We were making 269 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 2: a run at the wild card. Also, don't fire me 270 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 2: because we're trying really hard and Ebra Flues basically, I 271 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 2: mean again, the GM, you know, Poles had to ultimately 272 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 2: make that decision. But I'm sure eber Flu' was like, no, 273 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 2: we're gonna win, we can make a run. And they 274 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 2: didn't sell these guys, got nothing in return, They didn't 275 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 2: get to the playoffs, and now they're gonna lose them 276 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 2: or nothing. I don't know, Rob, I that's the kind 277 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 2: of stuff that just irks me to no end. To 278 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 2: get something in and yeah, I get I'm sure losing 279 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: Eddie Jackson would have hurt, and Cody White here would 280 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 2: have hurt and Fields would have been upset. So what 281 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 2: you're always building for the future, like the President wasn't anything. 282 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 2: I don't know, Rob, I would just be so disappointed. Plus, 283 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 2: if you're a if you're Caleb Williams or Drake By 284 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 2: or whoever, Jay and Daniels whatever, you're like, Damn, they're 285 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 2: losing an all pro guard. Huh okay, all right, what's 286 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 2: the replacement plan? You know? And it's one of those deals. 287 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 2: I don't know. I just thought the Bear's extremely disappointing 288 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 2: move to get nothing at the deadline. Now, I do 289 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: like their prospects, Rob, for this upcoming season. They got 290 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 2: a lot of free agents. Jalen Johnson is a free agent, 291 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 2: Mooney's a free agent, Tanyan Yannik and Goatway. They got 292 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 2: a lot of dudes. But man, I uh, I don't 293 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: like how the Bears did this. 294 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: No, not at all. And quickly, before I get into that, 295 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: let me just say that when somebody makes the straight 296 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: fire documentary about what happened and with Jason McIntyre and 297 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: the rise and Fall of j Mack, I'm going to 298 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: be the anonymous source, just so you know, like when 299 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: people say, like, who's the guy they talk to like 300 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: sources close to the situation. You'll I'll text you like, hey, 301 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: I spoke to Ron Howard. I let him know that 302 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: this is what happening, and you never wore a shirt 303 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: and that kind of led to things spiraling out of control. Yeah. 304 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, boy. If Ron Howard's calling you and they're doing 305 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 2: something on me, I'm thrilled. 306 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: Like you can say whatever you want. If they're doing 307 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: a documentary, yeah, lock that up. No, But as far 308 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: as the Bears go, like Adam Schefter, I like Adam Schefter, right, 309 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: And he tried to spin it because that's what his 310 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: job is, you know. He gets information from these teams 311 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: and agents and it's always meant as the positive spin 312 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: of what went down. And you mentioned it. They'd let 313 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: go of Eddie Jackson, let go of Cody white Hair, 314 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: two guys they could have easily traded at the deadline 315 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: and recouped something. But the spin now is that will 316 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: open up approximately twenty one and a half million dollars 317 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: against the cap. Yeah, which is fine, except that according 318 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: to spot track, before these moves were even made, they 319 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 1: already had forty nine million open against the cap for 320 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: next season. Like in the NFL, with the way that 321 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: you can finagle the salary cap with signing bonus and 322 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: roster bonus and workout bonus and what have you. What 323 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: could you possibly do with seventy million they are that 324 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: you couldn't do with fifty million, right, Like you can 325 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: just use Patrick Mahomes for example. With Patrick Mahomes, you 326 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: know he makes what fifty million dollars a year, You 327 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: can make it so his cap numbers like nine. If 328 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: you really wanted to, you say, we're going to give 329 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: you a massive signing bonus, a massive workout bonus, so 330 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: your actual cap number is really small, Like that's easily 331 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: attainable in today's NFL. So for them to do this, 332 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: I think you hit the nailhead. I think it's spoke 333 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: to them wanting to save their asses there in Chicago 334 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: that they wanted to keep the head coach and the 335 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: GM in place and they have a fresh, a fresh 336 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: slate moving forward that they can spin it to the 337 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: ownership and everybody in charge that hey, we have a 338 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: number one overall pick. We're likely going to take a quarterback. 339 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: Kayla Williams is supposed to be the best prospect ever arguably, 340 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: and we're gonna have you know, seventy million dollars in 341 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: cap space, watch what we do with it. And so 342 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 1: all you're doing is you're extending the runway for yourself 343 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: by two or three seasons rather than acting like a 344 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: competent franchise and doing what you can in the here 345 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: and now. 346 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like how you said that you can always 347 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 2: tweak and fiddle with the salary cap like the good 348 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 2: teams do this every year. So I'm sure some people 349 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 2: are like, oh, anybody who traded for Eddie Jackson would 350 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 2: have had to pay for part of his twenty twenty 351 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 2: four salary. Guys, this is like a super Bowl team. No, 352 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: no regular teams trading for a guy like Eddie Jackson 353 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 2: at the deadline. The Niners could have legitimately used him. 354 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 2: I mean to hell, the Detroit Lions secondary was in abysmal. 355 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 2: You know, they could have used a playmaker and I 356 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 2: know in the division unlikely, but I'm just saying, like 357 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 2: I always am, like, listen, you gotta get with you 358 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 2: whatever you can for your superstars. Let's pivot rob to 359 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 2: the NBA here as we wrap up the podcast and 360 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 2: head into the weekend. I'm sure you saw the Celtics 361 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 2: win by fifty. This week, we saw the Warriors get 362 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 2: hot and then kind of sort of blow it to 363 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 2: the Clippers, who were not with Kawhi Leonard aside A 364 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 2: quick aside, how smart of it is Kawhi Leonard to 365 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 2: sit out the Clippers' final game before the break would 366 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 2: not shock me at all. If all of a sudden, 367 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 2: Kwhile Leonard's like, Ooh, I'm not gonna play any All 368 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 2: Star game. It's in Indie. What do I care? What 369 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 2: do I want to go there for? And next thing 370 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 2: you know, Kawhi Leonard, by the way, I don't even 371 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 2: know if he's in the All Star Game. I would 372 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 2: assume he is, And next thing you know, Kawhi Leonard, 373 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it has like a seven day 374 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 2: break because he skipped that game. And it's like, oh, 375 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 2: that's free rest time. If I'm a veteran, if I'm 376 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 2: over thirty thirty two to thirty three, yeah, hell yeah, 377 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: I want that extra time. But the NBA has gotten 378 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 2: a little spicy. The Cleveland Calves are one of the 379 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 2: hottest teams in the league. With Donovan Mitchell, Lakers have 380 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 2: kind of righted the ship after doing nothing at the deadline. 381 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 2: And perhaps most interestingly Rob Kendrick Perkins, who says a 382 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 2: lot of nonsense and unfortunately I can't see it because 383 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 2: the former OKC Celtics goon who is now at ESPN, 384 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 2: he has blocked me on Twitter because I, you know, 385 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 2: challenge him on some of his outlandish, incendiary nonsense takes. 386 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 2: He is claiming that he knows a third star wants 387 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 2: to come to LA. And Rob, if you saw me 388 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 2: mention Cleveland and there were surgents as Donovan Mitchell catapulted 389 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 2: into the MVP race, and you mention saw me mention La, 390 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go ahead and guess, and you'll you can 391 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 2: guess whoever you want. I will put my guests as 392 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell is the is the third star who wants 393 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 2: to come to LA. I know that's a weird time 394 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 2: to guess that with the Calves surgeon. But I'm not 395 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 2: even certain they're getting out of the fund now if 396 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 2: they get the two seats there in great shape, I 397 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 2: don't know if they will, but I will. I don't 398 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 2: think they'll get out of the first round again, and 399 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 2: another one their coach probably gets canned, and then Mitchell 400 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 2: probably asks out. So my guess on the third start 401 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 2: is Donovan Mitchell. 402 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: That's a fair guess because when I saw the report 403 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: come down, well if it's a quote unquote report, when 404 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: it's you know, Kendrick Perkins doing an interview and then 405 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: he just says something and then he says, but I 406 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: can't tell you who it is because that person trusts 407 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: me with their you know, information, So you know, there's 408 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: there's ways you can get around saying that without saying 409 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: that that exact person told me. He could have said, 410 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: I spoke to someone close the situation, and Donovan Mitchell 411 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: has eyes for the Lakers. You can say that without 412 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: pissing off Donovan Mitchell, right, because you're leaving him out 413 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: of it. But my first thought was number one, Donovan 414 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: Mitchell because as you mentioned, everybody knows he's not staying 415 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: in Cleveland. Everybody knows that come this time in the summer, 416 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 1: when he has the one year left on his deal, 417 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: he's going to ask for a trade. The team is 418 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: gonna want to trade him while he has they have 419 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: rights so they can get some assets back considering what 420 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: they gave up to get him. So everybody knows that 421 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell's one the other one that we've talked about 422 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 1: a little bit on this podcast, But the other one 423 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: came up to mine was Trey Young because I've seen 424 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: reports now from Mark Stein. These are actual reports. This 425 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: is not just him saying it him saying that he 426 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: spoke people around the league, and the sentiment is that 427 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: one of the reasons why de Jontay Murray was not 428 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: traded the deadline was because they think they can get 429 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 1: a bigger haul for Trey Young this summer if they 430 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: decide to break them up, which he says they're going 431 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: to break them up. They have to decide who they're 432 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: going to break up. But when they do, they're going 433 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: to weigh the cost opportunity, opportunity to cost versus trading 434 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: de Jontay Murray for less and having in their eyes 435 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: a lesser player, or trading Trey Young for a king's 436 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: ransom and using John Ta Murray's point guard of the future, 437 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: so Trey Young. That seems obviously floundering. You know, I 438 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: know they're fighting for a play in spot, but nobody's 439 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 1: expecting anything from them. They've been, you know, a bad 440 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 1: team ever since they made that fluke run to the 441 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: Eastern Conference Finals and The other part of the Trey 442 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: Young situation that cannot be overlooked is that he's reaped 443 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: by Clutch Sports. The Los Angeles Lakers since twenty nineteen 444 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: have been affectionately known here in LA as clutch sports 445 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 1: presents the Los Angeles Lakers. Stop it Okay. At one 446 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: point they had six guys on their roster that were 447 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: Clutch Sports. And it's because Lebron James Rich Paul will 448 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: do what they have to do behind closed doors to 449 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: ensure that their guys are seen first by the Lakers. 450 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: That's why Anthony Davis is there, or one of the 451 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: reasons that they Davis is there. That's how Cam Reddish 452 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: got an opportunity as a vet minimum right out of 453 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: the gate with the Lakers. That's how Mantres Harold got 454 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: signed a few years back. Like the list goes on 455 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: and on. So I can totally see a situation where 456 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: Trey Young is privately told Rich Paul and Rich Paul 457 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 1: is told Perkins or told the Lakers, Hey, if and 458 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: when the Hawks are ready to trade him, make sure 459 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: your cupboard is full, because he'd like to come to 460 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. 461 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 2: Oh Rob, that that's an A plus ten out of 462 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 2: ten delivery. I was super impressed. I just are you sure? 463 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: Like? 464 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 2: Listen, I like Trey Young. I've been higher on him 465 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 2: than most. I'm mostly higher on the Hawks, but rob 466 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 2: I know he's a winning player. It could be clutched, 467 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 2: but he doesn't play a lick of defense. How on 468 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 2: earth how does that line up with Anthony Davis and 469 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 2: Lebron who are gonna they're not gonna want to play 470 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 2: with Trey Young getting will By. And next question is, 471 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 2: and please don't answer this the wrong way, who are 472 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 2: you giving up for Trey Young? Don't tell me, Austin, Austins, 473 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: are you really doing that? You're giving up a six seven? 474 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: Uh rees can really play the one, two three, he defends, 475 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 2: he's long. I'm not saying he's a great defender, but 476 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 2: he can be a really good defender. And he's fine 477 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 2: being your number three. The crowd loves him, and you're 478 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 2: giving that up for Tray Young. Trey Young has gone 479 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 2: from being the one in high school at Oklahoma and 480 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 2: in Atlanta, and he's gonna go what beat the two 481 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 2: or the three? Here? 482 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: I didn't say I would do it like I'm probably 483 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: not the guy who would give up Austin Reeves, and 484 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,719 Speaker 1: you know what we'll say, Jared Vanderbilt is for contracts. 485 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: I have to look it up. But Reeves Vanderbilt three 486 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 1: pins and three first and two swaps for Trey Young. 487 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: I'm not that guy who's gonna do that. 488 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 2: I would consider. So the guy you're gonna hate this, 489 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 2: the guys I would consider giving up Austin Reeves for 490 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 2: are using your future like a guy I would give 491 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 2: up Austar Reeves for Jason Tatum. 492 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, yeah. 493 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 2: Now the Celtics they're not They're not doing that. I 494 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 2: don't know about Jaylen Brown, I don't know. I like 495 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,160 Speaker 2: he's good. I like him. I'm not saying Austins is better, 496 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 2: but Austin's contract is way better. Jylen Brown's isn't gonna 497 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 2: be making like sixty million dollars in like year five. 498 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: That's right. 499 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. Who else is a realistic guy that would be 500 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 2: on the market, that would you trade Austin Reves for him? 501 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving might be on the market. 502 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 2: No, I'm not doing that. 503 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: Come on, okay, are you? If I give up Austin Reeves, 504 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 1: I'm not giving up all those picks. So it's gotta 505 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: be one of the other I'm not giving up that 506 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 1: whole package. 507 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 2: I mean Kyri, by the way, sneaky Kyrie has already 508 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 2: missed over twenty games contractor missed like thirty games, right, 509 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 2: and we know it's postseason industry. So no, I'm absolutely 510 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 2: not doing that. I'm trying to think of the bottom feeders, 511 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 2: like Orlando's not giving up Palo Banko, he's on the 512 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 2: rookie deal. 513 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: Nope. 514 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 2: Jalen Suggs, I'm not doing that. I like Jalen Sugs, 515 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 2: but I don't even know if I don't even know 516 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 2: if he's good, Like he's an awesome player, Gonzaga. I 517 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 2: thought he would be better than this. He hasn't really delivered. 518 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 2: I'm not bringing KU's back and parting with Austin Reeves. 519 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 2: Jordan Poole. I apologize for loving him for this. 520 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: I have an answer, and in my dovetail, it's crazy 521 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: how And in my dovetail's our next conversation. You know who. 522 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: I'd give all of that up for no question to 523 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: ask Austin Reeves give throwing hot and Murty. 524 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 2: Don't say we. 525 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: No, nope, three picks, two swaps, Dame. 526 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 2: I'm not doing it. 527 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: For Dame not Dame, and we will absorb whatever else. 528 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: Steph Curry, Steph Curry, I would give all of that 529 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: up for Steph Curry. 530 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you got to. By the way, let 531 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 2: me give you a quick theory as we wrap up here. 532 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 2: So there was interestingly a week after the trade deadline, 533 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 2: right they waited what like two days after the Super Bowl. 534 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 2: The Lakers were approached by the Warriors, would you give 535 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 2: us Lebron? The Sixers, and Darryl Morty called the Lakers, 536 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 2: will you give us Lebron? Rob Why did that not 537 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 2: come out before the deadline? And you're like, I wonder 538 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 2: who were the reporters? Then why is it coming out now? 539 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 2: If I'm Lebron's camp, I sure as shit leaked that 540 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 2: after the deadline. Hey, everyone, just so you know, hashtag 541 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 2: washed King. The Warriors wanted me, The Sixers wanted me, 542 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 2: Curry wanted me, Embiid wanted me. Oh, by the ps, 543 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 2: I'm a free agent. At the end, Lebron is essentially, 544 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 2: in my opinion, signaling to everyone else. Oh yeah, I 545 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 2: might be thirty nine, but everybody wants me. They want 546 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 2: me bad. Hey, Lakers, Anny up, you want to keep 547 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 2: me because other people want me, I'll go I will. 548 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 2: It reminds me, I hope I'm get in trouble for 549 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 2: saying this. Have you see what's that Adam Sandler movie. 550 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 2: I think it's called Funny People. Have you seen it? 551 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: Rob? Yes? 552 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 2: Okay, so early one, early on in the movie, what's 553 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 2: his face from Knocked Up? Damn it on? Guy Seth Rogan. 554 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 2: Seth Rogan is like and and Jonah hill Our roommates 555 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 2: with the guy with the dark hair who's been in 556 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 2: some good cop and he's like a total egotistical prick 557 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 2: because he's on some show and he's like taking the 558 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 2: taking the guy's girlfriend or potential like neighbor who might 559 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 2: like him. And he goes, don't back me into a corner. 560 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 2: I've got my way out of and I just, for 561 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 2: the first time I heard that, I could not stop laughing. 562 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Rob Will probably had to deleat that, but 563 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 2: to me, it was like, this is Lebron saying, listen, 564 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 2: don't back me into a corner where I gotta leave, 565 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 2: because I will. I will walk out the door. I've 566 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 2: got options, And that, to me is what Lebron was signaling. 567 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 2: When I'm guessing he leaked it, like there's no incentive? 568 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 2: Who who Why would the Warriors leak that, Hey, we're 569 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 2: willing to blow up our team and give you a 570 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 2: poop poop platter of Kuminga and the rookie with the 571 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 2: bushy hair and picks and blah blah blah for Lebron. 572 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 2: I mean, the Sixers have nothing to give, So who's 573 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,959 Speaker 2: leaking this row that? That's my theory anyway, I mean 574 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 2: your thoughts. 575 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: I am one thousand percent with you, and I'll double 576 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: down on it. Because it was very odd. They had 577 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: a back to back and everybody knew they would win 578 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: the first one because you know, they're one of the 579 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: worst teams in the league. And Lebron played for that 580 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: one and immediately after the game, I think he was 581 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: still wet from his shower, told reporters, Yeah, I'm not 582 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: playing on Wednesday in Utah. I'm just gonna sit that 583 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: one out. It's like, oh, well, Lebron, you have the 584 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: All Star break coming up, you have a whole week 585 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: off to recover. You mean to tell me that you 586 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: can't play on the back to back. I know your 587 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: minutes were low on Tuesday. Why can't you play on Wednesday, 588 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: but nobody bothers ask him that. So it's it's interesting 589 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: that he deactivates himself basically for the Utah game, which 590 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: means he doesn't have to meet the media in the 591 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: post game, it doesn't have to meet them at shoot around. 592 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: So when this new story dropped, Lebron is back in 593 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: La chilling on his couch. He has no media requirements 594 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: what soever. There's nobody who gets to ask him about 595 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: this report because again in the report, it says that 596 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: the Warriors called the Lakers and actually was the owners 597 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: Joe Lacup who called Genie Bus and Genie Bus rather 598 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: than the same flat out no, says you got to 599 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: talk to Lebron because we're going to do what makes 600 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: him happy. If he wants to stay, we're keeping him. 601 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: If he wants to leave, then we'll try to figure 602 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: something out. Ultimately they say no. So obviously it was 603 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: run up the flagpole to Lebron the idea, according to 604 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: this report, of playing in Golden State. So if he's 605 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: able to avoid the media, he doesn't have to answer 606 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: how this came out, and by the time he does 607 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: me with the media at the All Star weekend or 608 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: even the week after there's so much that is going 609 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: to have happened between then and the next time he speaks, 610 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: that this isn't even going to be a story. He's 611 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: going to be able to have some well crafted response. 612 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: So I've shout out to you. I definitely believe that 613 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: Lebron Rich Paul Clutch Sports definitely leaked this out on 614 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: his behalf. 615 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 2: And listen, they're good at this sort of thing. And 616 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 2: I'll tell you right now, you're gonna see a lot 617 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 2: of this on the NFL Draft. You're gonna see certain 618 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 2: leaks from certain camps. This stuff happens all the time 619 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 2: in media. It's this weird, like behind the scenes game. Personally, 620 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 2: I don't like playing it, but I've been told my 621 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 2: agent has mentioned it to me other people in the industry. Jay, 622 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 2: you gotta you gotta, you gotta toot your own horn 623 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 2: and find people to toot it for you and all that. 624 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, I hope that didn't come out the wrong way, 625 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 2: you know what, But like you got to play that 626 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 2: game in the media and and you know, blah blah blah, 627 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 2: and I'm like, I get that. I It's just a 628 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 2: lot of work. Man. Like, listen, if you're Lebron and 629 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 2: you've got a team, and I'm talking like, you've probably 630 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 2: got his own like twelve man team working for him 631 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 2: to craft narratives and shape a public opinion on him. Yeah, 632 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 2: it's not a problem. And then they just approach Lebron. 633 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,239 Speaker 2: I'm sure in meetings, Hey, Lebron, we're gonna we were 634 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 2: thinking of this, how about that, blah blah blah, you know, 635 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 2: and and and that's one thing, but to like do 636 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 2: it on your own, that's a lot of work. I 637 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 2: don't think Lebron is sitting here, like, who's there? Who 638 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 2: is the bad guy? Gargomel and the Smurts? Do you 639 00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 2: remember that? Yeah, Rob, your. 640 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: Tool, I don't remember. 641 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 2: Gargama would always say I've got this plan to capture 642 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 2: the Smurfs and blub blah, you know, and you'd always 643 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 2: be cooking up these things. I don't think Lebron is 644 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 2: sitting there trying to come up with narratives to sell 645 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 2: to the media. I believe his team, which tracks social media, 646 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 2: they know who to follow. I mean, there's just so 647 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 2: much happening, Rob that it's kind of sort of fascinating. 648 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 2: And the NBA has become I didn't watch Game of Thrones, 649 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 2: did you? 650 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: Of course I did. 651 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 2: How much of the NBA chatter behind the scenes feels 652 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 2: games of the Game of Thrones, ish. 653 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: I mean, if you can separate yourself from the dragons 654 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: and the sex, it's very similar. It's very similar because 655 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: all it is is just a lot of guys making 656 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: power plays. Everyone's trying to one up each other, Everyone's 657 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: trying to get a head up on the next guy. 658 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: And there are so many back door, closed door meetings 659 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: and conversation that take place that I think the average 660 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: sports fan would be shocked. 661 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, no clue to get to the average sports fan, 662 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 2: like barely you know, you got barely enough time for 663 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 2: your life with you know, you got a young kid 664 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 2: at home, Rob, and you've got the wife, and you've 665 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 2: got family members, and you've got multiple jobs. Like, you 666 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 2: got a lot going on. You know, it's tough to 667 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 2: sit here and try to craft stuff. But anyways, that's 668 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 2: just food for thought as we head into All Star weekend. 669 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 2: All right, everybody, So I'm back on the twenty sixth 670 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,959 Speaker 2: with another podcast. We are out next week. Stay safe 671 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 2: out there, enjoy NBA All Star Weekend, and we'll talk 672 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 2: to you later,