1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: You're listening to Hawk Talk with former Seahawks wide receiver 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: Michael Bumpus after ten yard line. Second to day free 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: wide receivers now in motion, has Puppas left or right, 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: Julius Jones a single setback Matt Pumpecks looking at the 5 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: goal line, he throws it into the end zone. Touchdown 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 1: Sea Hawks. It's Michael Bumpas with a diving kitchen the 7 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: end zone. Our ten yard touchdown reception for Bumpas, and 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: the kid out of Washington State has found himself a 9 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: place on this team. Powered by Seahawks dot Com. What's up, twelves? 10 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: Has been a while? This is Michael Bumpers that you're 11 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: listening to Hawk Talking. Of course, I'm with my guy 12 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: NaSTA Choby Nast. What's up? Man? How you been? What's good? 13 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: Bump has been too damn wants and we've been on 14 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: this thing. Man. I'm happy to chop it up with you. 15 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: Me too, man, me too. And of course this is 16 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: the draft recap. We gotta talk about what happened and 17 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: what had happened in the draft. See what had happened 18 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: at first work, what had happened was on Hawk Talk? 19 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: What had happened. Was the first two picks pretty predictable, right. 20 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: We knew Trevor Lawrence was going to the Jacksonville Jaguars, 21 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: he was gonna be the guy to say this franchise. 22 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: We knew Zach Wilson was going to the New York Jets, 23 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: which I must say, after looking at Zach Wilson, I 24 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: don't know if New York is gonna fit for him. Man, 25 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: he looks he looks a little uptight. You know, you 26 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: got to have some confidence and some swag about you. 27 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: You have swag on the field, but off the field, 28 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if his personality fits in New York. Yeah, man, 29 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: I know. I think you're talking about that viral video 30 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: when all the draft picks are getting together in front 31 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: of the television and he just looked like that moment 32 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: didn't really fit. But who knows the problem those New 33 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: York is a tough market, man. They are just they're 34 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: essentially waiting for you to fail. So the luck to 35 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: his Zach. I hope he brings some of that stuff 36 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: he had at BYU onto the field, because you're gonna 37 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: need it. You're gonna need it over there. Now, got 38 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: a little tricky number three, Trey Lands goes to the 39 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: forty nine ers. Me personally, I thought Justin Fields was 40 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: the right pick. We heard Mac Jones was gonna be 41 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: the guy. Justin ill Stock just slip for some reason. 42 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: I don't understand what was going on. The guys twenty 43 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,639 Speaker 1: and two as a starter, won a national championship, showed 44 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: some toughness, I don't give it. But the forty nine 45 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: ers they kept his information close to him. They end 46 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: up drafting Trey Lance at the number three spot, which 47 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: I'm not mad at it. I am mad because the 48 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: hoss got to face him, But I understand why they 49 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: would pick this guy. Yeah, no, I mean he obviously 50 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: he was on top of their board. Shanahan and Lynch 51 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: kept it close to the vest. They knew the guy 52 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: that they wanted. It was interesting too, because they kind 53 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: of left the Mac Jones rumors just kind of stay 54 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: out there because for a while everyone thought Jones was 55 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: going to the forty nine ers at number three. But 56 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: what do you think that does for Garoppolo? Right? Because 57 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: they're saying all the right things. They're saying Garoppolo is 58 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: still gonna you know, he's still gonna start. He so 59 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: their quarterback, kind of a mentor situation, maybe kind of 60 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: all Alex Smith, Patrick Mahomes. But how soon do you 61 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: think we see Trey Lance on that football field? Honestly, 62 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: week one or two. I think it's gonna be that earlier. 63 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: I honestly think that if if Trey Lance is the 64 00:02:58,200 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 1: guy that we hear that he is, that the four 65 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: thinks he is. He's a smart guy, he's competitive, he's mobile. 66 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,839 Speaker 1: He has some accuracy issues, but I think with their 67 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: their scheme on offense, they can kind of work around that. 68 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see him earlier than later. And 69 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: if he flashes during camp, Jimmy already feels the pressure, 70 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: he's gonna feel even more pressure. They're trying to gracefully 71 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: push him out the door. You know, they're not kicking 72 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: him out. They're like, look, man, we got a new toy, 73 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: been towards this guy. We'll see what he does. Now. 74 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: What's surprised to me? Mac Jones falls to number fifteen, 75 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: But I think he lands in the perfect spot for him. 76 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: New England Pages you like that pick, Yeah, I mean 77 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: that's exactly what they wanted, And honestly, I think a 78 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: lot of people in their shoes, thought they're gonna have 79 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: to trade up to get him that he wasn't still 80 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: gonna be there. Obviously, he's all about the quarterbacks leading 81 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: up to the draft. But I think it's a great fit. 82 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: I mean, are you kidding me? With Bill Belichick and 83 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels, you still got Cam on the roster. So 84 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: it's one year probably under Cam or who knows. Cam's 85 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: had a lot of injury issues. So maybe Mac Jones 86 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: gets playing time early because last year the Patriots backup. 87 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: I'm blanking on his name, stid him. I think his 88 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: name was. He played in a lot of games, and 89 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: it wasn't necessarily just because Cam was heard. It was 90 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: kind of for some play reasons on the field. So 91 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: I think I think Mac Jones could not have gone 92 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: to a better place just to They're gonna find a 93 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: way for his skill set to pop with that offense. 94 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see how that future goes. 95 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: If Cam Cam is already self motivated, remember last year, 96 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: you know all the videos he's putting out, He's got 97 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: to be motivated now he feels that pressure, he's on 98 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: the last leg of his career. We'll see how responsive 99 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: Mac Jones, But I want to go back to the 100 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: Bears real quick. I'm kind of proud of the Bears. Man. 101 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: I'm proud of that right because because they jacked it 102 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: up a few years ago. You passed the homes, you 103 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: passed them Deshaun Watson that say, you know what, this 104 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: thing's gonna happen again, and they move up to get 105 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: Justin Phils. So I'm happy for the Bears. They finally 106 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: did something right, No, exactly right. And I think back 107 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: to the tweet. Do you remember early in the offseason 108 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: when they tweeted out QB one in those picture of 109 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton. I was thinking about that. I was like, 110 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: why did you do the unnecessary criticism? They didn't need that. 111 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: But I love the pick, And honestly, I'm really hyped 112 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: for Justin Fields because, like you said, I have no 113 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: idea why he plummeted all of a sudden from going 114 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: to playing in the college football playoffs. All of a sudden, 115 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: now you can't play anymore, and we're concerned about your 116 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: actors for you and all that, and people were talking 117 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: about his interceptions or when you really look at the film. 118 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: A couple of those people brought up that Northwestern game. 119 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: One of those was that one handed incredible pick in 120 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: the back of the end zone. Another game he had 121 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: balls tips. So I thought a lot of the criticism 122 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: was unfair with Justin So I'm just really happy that 123 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: he was a first rounder and he got drafted in 124 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: the first round, and Chicago has could have something there. Man, 125 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: they could have finally made up for the Mischgelbiskie decision 126 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: over Patrick Mahomes. So we'll see about that. But happy 127 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: for Justin Fields. Now Alabama, goodness, Grace. Now, I'm not 128 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: an Alabama supporter, but I understand who they are and 129 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: understand what they do, and what they did was to 130 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: have six players drafted in the first round. You kid me, 131 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: we talked about mac Jones. Of course, you got Wattle, 132 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: you got a certain you got the Vonte Smith, you 133 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: got Leatherwood. Yeah, Harris, I mean they are if when 134 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: you talk about a factory, when you talk about a 135 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: theater program to the NFL, you talk about Nick Saban 136 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: and those Alabama boys, Man, it's something special guy going 137 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: down there. Nick Saban is an incredible football coach, the 138 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: best college football coach in the land maybe ever. But man, 139 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: they have better players than everyone else in the country. 140 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: And it's year after year after year. All those two 141 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: you guys do, all lining up on the same offense. 142 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 1: Are you kidding me crazy? Like you look at that 143 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: receiver room. That receiver room. Shoot, I'm saying it's better 144 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: than some receiver rooms in the National Football League. And 145 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: that was in the SEC. So like Obama is there, 146 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: they are, man, They're just there's a different animal, different, 147 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: totally different beasts. I mean, it's it's a year after 148 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: year after year. So don't be surprised. I would love 149 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: to be a coach there from the standpoint of winning. 150 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: It might be a little tough underneath Saban that whole time, 151 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: but all they do is win because they were players 152 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: that are better than other people's players. Straight up. Last 153 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: year you got Judy who comes out receiver from Alabama, 154 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: got Rugs who comes out receiver from Alabama, and then 155 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: they put out a few more this year. It makes 156 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: me sick. Low key, I'm just a little jealous. Wazoo 157 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: where we Yeah, come on, let's give one receiver out 158 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: in the draft next year. Hey, you know soon enough? 159 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe maybe. All right, let's talk about these first 160 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: round positions. So in the first round. We have five 161 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: quarterbacks go, two running backs, five receivers, one tight end, 162 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: one tackle, one guard, four dns, which I was surprised 163 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: because it wasn't a great year for edge rushers, but 164 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: they still got some guys out. Two inside linebackers, three 165 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: outside backers, five corners, No d tackles or centers drafted. Now, 166 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: the draft is is the way the cookie crumbles right. 167 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: One team makes one move it might have taken away 168 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: from another team's podcasting down. Now they make CAMUSO. It's 169 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: hard to say, like, Okay, there's weren't any d tackles 170 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: or centers that were first round grades. Sometimes that's just 171 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: the way it happens because of picks prior to say 172 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: a middle tier team going. So I wouldn't put too 173 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: much stock in that because I feel like there are 174 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: some good de tackles and centers there. But that's the 175 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: breakdown for the first round. Were you surprised with how 176 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,559 Speaker 1: many receivers or was there a position that just stood 177 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: out to you when it came to the picks in 178 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: the first round. Really, the only thing we new quarterbacks, 179 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna we new quarterbacks were going to be drafted 180 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: all over. We knew, you know. For me, receivers not 181 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: not so surprising, just because the way the league is 182 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: going now and the way people throw the ball. You 183 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: need playmakers, need people stretch the field, you need guys 184 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: on the inside. I was I wouldn't put too much 185 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: stock on it. Like you said, I was a little surprised. 186 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: Defensive tackle. That's just you always know. There's at least 187 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: one or two every year, typically probably one from Alabama probably, 188 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: you know, So it was it's surprise center. Not as much. 189 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: I was surprised the defensive tackle, but I'm not surprised 190 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: the quarterback, wide receiver, or cornerback for that matter, because 191 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: with all these good receivers in the league every year 192 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: we might say this, it feels like receivers are getting 193 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: better and better. An offense is getting better and better, 194 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: so it's harder to find guys to try to stop them. 195 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 1: So not surprised that many quarters went. But yeah, the 196 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: first round was. It was an interesting day. It was 197 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: good to see people back in. It wasn't all virtual. Yeah, 198 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel about the couch situation, 199 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: but that aside, it was really cool just to see 200 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: people hugging Roger Goodell getting out there, having that moment 201 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: with their families, not in, you know, secluded to their 202 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: living rooms or basements if they wanted to be out there. 203 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: So it was cool to see the draft kind of 204 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: get back to normal with kind of let us feel 205 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 1: like there's hope that we're getting back to the world 206 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: we used to know pre COVID. Yeah, because that's that's 207 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: what you dream about. Man. You want to shake Goodell's heads, 208 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 1: you want to hug him. It's a big mument for 209 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: those guys. I'm glad they got a chance to experience it. Now, 210 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: let's talk about these Seahawks. Seahawks had three picks. It's 211 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: the second people was players drafted since nineteen sixty seven. 212 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: My mom was born in sixty six, a long time, 213 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: very long time. And their very first pick. I'm gonna 214 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: let you tell who the first pick was because I 215 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: want to glow a little bit. Who they pick up 216 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: news Michael Bumpus as he just said, why receiver Dwayne 217 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: Eskridge out of Western Michigan. And that was We gotta 218 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: give bump credit because we're credits due. He was out 219 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 1: there weeks before, letting everybody know. On seven ten ESPN 220 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: that the Seahawks could go after Dwayne es Rigs for 221 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,599 Speaker 1: his playmaking ability and everything we saw in him. So 222 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: it was cool to see you become a draft guru. 223 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 1: Is that your crew? Now I'm a draft at least 224 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 1: for a year. I got him back it up next year. 225 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: But until then, yes, I would say that no bum. 226 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: So I love this pick in Eskridge. We were texting 227 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: right before, not only was that record out, me and 228 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: you were texting and I was saying, hey, you know, 229 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: I think we need a you know, a slot type 230 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: receiver or cornerback, and you brought up Eskridge. So when 231 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 1: you look at him, what jumps off? What's the first 232 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: thing you think about when you see Escorts on the field. 233 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: Dude is fast man. He catches the rock and he 234 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: can go. He had touchdowns last year of seventy two yards, 235 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: seventy six yards in eighty five yards. That don't just 236 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: happen on an accident. Now, when I was in college 237 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: only scored about ten touchdowns. I got three that were 238 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: pump returns, and my pump returns was only eighty two. 239 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: It's like he's out there playing special teams on these guys. 240 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: He can get the football and go. And I think 241 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: that's what they need, especially with this new offense coming 242 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 1: in new Shane Waldron offense. He's gonna ask these guys 243 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: to catch team year routes, five year over routes and 244 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: turn them up and go. Dude ran a four three 245 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: eight four three A. My best time was a four 246 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: or four seven. I was really a four or five 247 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 1: type of dude. So a bit jealous, but I think 248 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: this is what they need. They need a solidified the 249 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: number three spot. David Morris gnage with the Carolina Panthers. 250 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: He still got Freddy Swayne, you still got Genal Sewell. 251 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: But every year they're gonna bring in guys to compete, 252 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: and I think he can do that. He can also 253 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: help on special teams. The guy was a gunner. He 254 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: returned kicks, He played defense at some points where you 255 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: can tackle a guy. I remember playing special teams and 256 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: Bruce to Haven asking me to go tackle somebody. I 257 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: looked at him, like, bro, I ain't tackled anybody since 258 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: two thousand and four. You're gonna ask me to tackle 259 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 1: a grown man in the league. Typically, defensive players are 260 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: the best special teams guys because they can tackle them 261 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: so it's nice that he kind of has an edge 262 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: on these other offensive guys. When it comes to the 263 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: special team humans, Oh, no question about it. John Schneider 264 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: talked about it. They kind of described him as he's 265 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: just a dog. For a staff to go to a 266 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: guy and say, hey, you know a guy that's supposed 267 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: to be, you know, kind of a track athlete, right, 268 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: you know, one hundred meters spinner and two hundred meter sprinterer. 269 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: I think shoot, I think it was like a twenty 270 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: three something foot long jumper for that guy. For a 271 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: guy like that, you know, usually hear the term track 272 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: guy and all that. For a staff to go to 273 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 1: a guy and ask him to go play some defense 274 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: and you know, go play against Michigan State and you know, 275 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: just go compete. You could see him just flying up 276 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 1: and run support, throwing his body around. He's just a competitor. 277 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: And the great thing about that is not only right, 278 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: see brand is a track guy because you're fast. So 279 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: it's really good to see a guy with that kind 280 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: of edge. Whogle says, yeah, coach, I'll go play defense 281 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 1: because at the time the NFL scoutside, he'd be more 282 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: suited for that. And then watching him run down as 283 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: a gunner and smack people with his frame. Love to 284 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: see it bump because you know, people be getting on 285 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: receivers saying they're not tough, they just want to catch touchdowns, 286 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. So I must make you proud to 287 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: see a guy come out there, stick his nose out 288 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,719 Speaker 1: there and go smack people. Represent change the narrative when 289 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: it comes to receivers, escrits. I believe in you. This 290 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: guy broke his clavical and I heard an interview. He 291 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: was like, look, that was maybe one of the best 292 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: things that happened to me because I was able to 293 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: look at the game from a different lens and really 294 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: prioritize what he wanted to do. He also was mister 295 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: track and field in high school. We talked about that 296 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 1: he's really fast. Now I heard he was a two 297 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: way guy, so I had to look up. Okay, who 298 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: are some baller two way guys in college? Now, he 299 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: didn't do it like consistently, but being he tapped into it. 300 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: First name that popped up with Champ Bailey. I didn't 301 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: realize Champ Bailey played both ways like that. And then 302 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: the next guy who popped up a course it is 303 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 1: Charles Wilson. We're not even gonna put the pressure on 304 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: the kid and ask him to live it up to 305 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 1: either of those. But if we're looking for positives, you 306 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: just named a bunch when it comes to two way players. 307 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 1: I just named a bunch when it come to two 308 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: way players. Let's talk about what he does as well. 309 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: We talked about the big playability averages average twenty one 310 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 1: point eight yards per catch last season, which is awesome. 311 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: He can stretch the defense from the slot, run after 312 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: the catch. That's everything you want from a receiver. I'm 313 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: really excited about this young man. Yeah, it's the breakaway 314 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: speed that gets me bump, because not only in his 315 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 1: route when he gets the top, when that ball is 316 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: in the air, his breakaway speed and something I love 317 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: to look at when you're watching film is when a 318 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: guy catches the ball right and he looks like he's 319 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: just glad he's out for a stroll right, And then 320 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: you look at the dbs and they look like they 321 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: are given everything that they can, dude, and he's accelerating 322 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: and he's in the gap is getting even bigger. So 323 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: his breakaway speed is something that just jumps off the 324 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: film to me, and I think that's one reason why 325 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: Shane Waldron and Pete Carroll on that new offense looked 326 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: for a number three receiver who could help with that, 327 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: because let's you're talking about, we could line up and 328 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett might now all of a sudden, become the 329 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: slowest guy on the field and eleven personnel with those 330 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: three on the field. That's that's tough on a defense man, 331 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,479 Speaker 1: tough on a defense. Talking about some of his weaknesses, 332 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: people say he ran a very simple route tree and 333 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: they're knocking him because of that. You know who else 334 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: ran a very simple round tree, mister DK Metcalf And 335 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: when we see what he has done for this football too. 336 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: So I wouldn't knock man. He was just doing what 337 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: his offense was asking him to do. It's not like 338 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: he said, coach, I'm only gonna run these routes. No, 339 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: he's in the offense. They ask him to do that. 340 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: Don't knock him because he's good at what he's doing. 341 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't put too much stock into that. 342 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: I think anybody can be coached up. You make it 343 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: to the NFL, you can be coached up to run 344 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: different routes if you're in the right scheme. They say 345 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: hip tightness prevents quick sinking out pretty much, saying he 346 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: can't get in and out of his routes. Again, I 347 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: heard the same thing about DK. Would he ran the 348 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: three cone drill wasn't very impressive. I have no issues 349 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: with how DK moves right now. So, yes, they're always 350 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: gonna be negative about a guy. You can always nitpick. 351 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: There's no perfect football player. But the things that people 352 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: are concerned about, I think he can work through. Yeah, 353 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: no question about it. I think. I mean that doesn't matter. 354 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: If you're the first pick in the draft. You're gonna 355 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: have people all the draft punits out there. They're gonna 356 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: have a thing of weaknesses. They're gonna say things that 357 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: they perceived you not to do well. This is lost 358 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: that those are his weaknesses and potentially the last time 359 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: he played football a lot of work. Send me put 360 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: in a new, brand new system. Nothing about the weaknesses 361 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: that we've heard about him something that is alarming, you 362 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's not something like heat, too 363 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: many drops, or not not coachable or locker room at things. Yeah, 364 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: so all these things, those are things that you can 365 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: work on. And I love to see it. So I'm 366 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: I'm I'm stoked about to pick definitely all right. And 367 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: in the fourth round, with the one hundred and thirty 368 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: seventh overall pick, the Hawks go to defense and then 369 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: they picked Tray Brown out of Oklahoma. You being the 370 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: defensive guy, what do you see out of this guy 371 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: that you like? The thing that jumped off again. So 372 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: we're a theme of the first two picks of speed, right, 373 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: I love I love his closing speed and now there's 374 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: been there are several deep balls where he was in 375 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: phase or the receiver had a step or chew on him. 376 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: And his ability to close that gap when the balls 377 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: in the air, right, perfect technique, right arm over the shoulder, 378 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: reaching across, batting the ball down. And just the way 379 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: he comes downhill at the football you watch him out 380 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: of his breaks, they're incredibly clean. There's no wasted steps. 381 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: That was number one thing for me. When you watch 382 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: him come downhill, there's no wasted steps. Long on our action. 383 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: He's coming downhill and he's physical like he even for 384 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 1: his size, he plays physical. If you're if you're not 385 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: going to come with the receiver, he's gonna bully you. 386 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 1: He's good in press, so I think all those things 387 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: are stuff that you love to see out of a 388 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: defensive back, especially going into this system. The one interesting 389 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: thing about him, though, is he doesn't necessarily fit the 390 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: bill that people. When people think Seattle Seahawks corners, they 391 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: don't think of a five nine guy. They think of 392 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: the Shermans, they think of even Shaquille, they think of 393 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: the six two, six three guy. But I think he 394 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: has all the tools to be great in the NFL. 395 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: You look at what teams did against him in the 396 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: past game. He plays in the Big twelve, all right. 397 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: Not a ton of defense being played in the Big 398 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: twelve because the offenses are so good they spread you out, 399 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: the hashes are out wider. It's hard to stop elite 400 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: receivers in that league. But if you look at him specifically, 401 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: according to Pro Football Focus, he had the lowest passer 402 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: rating in single coverage in the twenty twenty one class 403 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: at twenty six point nine. So I don't care. I'm 404 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 1: not really concerned by his size as to you can 405 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: play now. I'm not worried about his size five nine, 406 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: one eighty six. He can play inside, he can play outside. 407 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: Pie Carol said, look, we drafted him to play outside, 408 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: so he's gonna compete with DJ, He's gonna compete with 409 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,719 Speaker 1: Trey Flowers and Witherspoon, and I like that. Also, what 410 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: I like about it is that the Hawks are not 411 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: pigeonhole themselves and saying these are the only type of 412 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: guys that we're gonna take at this position. You sign 413 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 1: a Witherspoon during the offseason. He's the traditional guy they're 414 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: looking for, right, the six two guy, long arms, lots 415 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: of range. Now they're like, look, we're just gonna take 416 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,719 Speaker 1: ball players. And I want to tip my head off 417 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,239 Speaker 1: to DJ. I'm thinking DJ has something to do with that, 418 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,959 Speaker 1: because they found this young man and they inserted him 419 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: to this defense and special teams and he's been nothing 420 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: but a baller since. Now there's gonna be some competition. 421 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: I mentioned Trey Flowers, DJ Reads got Pierre Witherspoon got 422 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: randalled there and also Miller. A lot of these guys 423 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: aren't expected to make plays or two I guess, play 424 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: big roles in this defense, but they're still there and 425 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 1: you have to compete. And we know, no matter what 426 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: your name is, no matter where you come from, if 427 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: you make plays in this organization, you're gonna get a 428 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: chance to see yourself on the field on some day. Oh, 429 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: no question about it. And the way you mentioned it, 430 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting. We're pretty sat at the safety position, 431 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: at least we know from a starting standpoint Jamal Adams, 432 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: Quadri Diggs, But now with the departure Chile Griffin and 433 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: both corner spots essentially opened up with Quentin Dunbar not returning. Yeah, 434 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: the competition is gonna be nice. Man, Brown's gonna jump 435 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 1: right in there. People forget about Trey. People have gotten 436 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: on Trey really unfairly. I feel, in my opinion, Trey 437 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: Flowers is a better football player than he gets credit for. 438 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: DJ Reach stepped into great last year. Pierre Decierre has 439 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: been a really good corner over the last couple of years, 440 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: since the last time he was here. And Witherspoon, you've 441 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 1: talked about this. He was really good in moments right, 442 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: and their scheme was similar to us defensively, so I 443 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: think he kind of gets a bad rap it. They're 444 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 1: gonna compete like crazy man, and it's gonna be fun 445 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: to see because I think, um, and this is just 446 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: my cornerbacks. When you if you bump inside of the nickel, 447 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 1: you still let you have Ugo there, and then you 448 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 1: have Marquis Splayer's coming back sortie. There's a lot of 449 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: things that could happen, you know. If Marquis Splayer takes 450 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: back over at nickel, does Ugo go back to safety 451 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: maybe because we don't have a lot of adaptive safety, 452 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: Ryan Nels. So it's it's it's a lot to kind 453 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: of sift through. But going back to Trey brown Man, 454 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: we're excited about him, and so's GM John Schneider really 455 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: excitable Trey excited about his competitiveness. The guys just got 456 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: a fire tomb. That's just off the chain. That's what 457 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: all the cool kids say. I guess off the chain. Yeah, sorry, 458 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: my son would say that, right, So, but uh, four 459 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: or five years ago, John, Yeah, okay, off the chain. No, 460 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: we're excited about him. I think I think I think 461 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: Trey is going to be a good football player and 462 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to watching him compete early on. Man, 463 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: don't you love Pete Carolyn Schneider's relationship. They just seem like, hey, 464 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: there buddies having a beer, picking ballers to make their 465 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: team better. Man, I just love the relationship that beast 466 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: to have. All right, So now in this sixth round, 467 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: with the two hundred and eighth overall pick, the Hawks 468 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: select Stone forsythe out of Florida. This is a guy 469 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: who wasn't supposed to be there. They weren't supposed to 470 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: get this dude. And I'm gonna go out and say 471 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: that if he wasn't available, they might have traded that 472 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: pick and then got a couple more even later. I 473 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: don't know. I just saw his name and I saw 474 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: his draft rejections, and I look at him and I'm like, 475 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: this guy should be are you listen to his interview? 476 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: He was surprised that he was there, and now he 477 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: has a chip on his shoulder, which I love. The 478 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: dude is six eight, three hundred and seven pounds. Forty 479 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: games he played in with twenty eight starts. He started 480 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: twelve games his senior season. This is a guy. Okay, 481 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: what's the not gonna be? Oh he's too tall and 482 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: he's not gonna be able to bend at the hips 483 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: or whatnot. I don't care about that. I don't need 484 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: him to get super low. I just need you to 485 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: get low enough to use your range. You got those 486 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: dns firing off the edge of the line of scrimmage. 487 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: Your job is to make them take the longest route 488 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: to the quarterback, and I think with his size, with 489 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: his chip on his shoulder, he's gonna be able to 490 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: do that. I'm happy that this guy was picked up. 491 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: Wasn't expected to be there, Oh, no question about it. 492 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: He allowed just two sacks and four hundred and eighty 493 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: eight dropbacks of Florida. So I mean it's something where 494 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: it's like, well, he's doing something right, and it's it's 495 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: crazy because you look through all the draft analysts. Some 496 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: people had a second round grade on him for his 497 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: size and his footwork in his hand. So it's just 498 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: it's shocking that he fell that late. And if you 499 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: listen to Pete and John when they talked about it 500 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: in their Day three press conference, they were they were 501 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: shocked that he fell that far and it was just 502 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 1: a painful weight. As they waited and waited and waited 503 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: and eventually traded up. Head coach Pete Carroll talked a 504 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: lot about what he thinks from Stone and what his 505 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: potential is in this offense. Stone was a guy that 506 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: really because of his uniqueness he's really a unique player. 507 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: I mean, how many times have I said that two 508 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: guys about you know, we're always looking for trades and 509 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: and uh, he really brings a great level of potential 510 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: in his what he's bring. He's played a lot of football. 511 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: He said, over a thousand pass rushes against him in 512 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: the SEC. His numbers are really good. Is his stats 513 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: are really good from passport section. He can come off 514 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: the football. You know, he runs pretty well. He runs, 515 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: he runs well for a big guy. So he moves, 516 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: he moves all right. We just got to get him 517 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: where he's coming off the football the way we want to. 518 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: That means he's got front side blocks where he's got 519 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: to reach really you know, flashy athletes. And then he 520 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: also got to cut off big defensive tackles when the 521 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: ball is going away. So he's shown the ability to 522 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: do that, so we're not worried about his foot quickness 523 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: in that regards. The thing I liked the most about 524 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 1: Stone right here is he's not someone that needs to 525 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: come in and start right away. He's not a guy 526 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: asked to come in and be your savior. He's a 527 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: guy that can learn from one of the best in 528 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 1: the NFL to do it in Dwayne Brown. Yep, Brandon 529 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: Shall out the other side, and he can just be 530 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: a dept piece. But knowing that those guys not saying 531 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: they're not going to be here past twenty twenty one, 532 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: but their contracts don't go past that, so you never 533 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: know if you could eventually groom someone for the future. 534 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: So I can't think of a better situation for a 535 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: rookie tackle to come into than to learn under Dwayne Brown. 536 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 1: He's not going to be asked to play early, but 537 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: he's probably going to play because we've seen what happens 538 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: to this offensive line, especially when you got older guys 539 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: out there. I'm not I'm not hoping anything on anybody 540 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: on this OFFICEI line on howe everyone's healthy, they make 541 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: it through the season. But sometimes guys need brings. You know, 542 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: a guy like Dwayne Brown been in the league for 543 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: so long, sometimes he just needs a break and it'd 544 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: be nice to have a guy that can rolltate in. 545 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: So now we mentioned all the things he does on 546 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: the field, and he has the pedigree. Dad went to 547 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: Kent State, went to UCF, playing in the NFL, NFL Europe, 548 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: and the arena when you are raised in a football home, 549 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: you have some sort of advantage. And I think that 550 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: with his size, of course, with his skill over a 551 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 1: thousand snaps he's had in college over a thousand snaps, 552 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 1: and his experience, I really like this pick. He's not 553 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: gonna be asked to get in there early. I'm not 554 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: mad at this thing at all. Okay, so now twenty 555 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: twenty draft. Going into this draft, I said, look, the 556 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: hoss got three picks. I said, they're gonna flip it 557 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: into like five, maybe six, who knows, But they didn't. 558 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: They stayed with their three, and I think they had 559 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: three solid picks. If I had to give them a grade, 560 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: I give them a B plus. I think they dressed 561 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: the number three receiver spot. I think that they got 562 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: an offensive line guy who can help later, doesn't need 563 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: to do anything right now. And then you have a 564 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: corner guy who can play right now. And we've seen 565 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball, that's kind of 566 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: where guys can come in and play right now and 567 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: make a huge impact just because it's just raw ability. 568 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 1: I give them a B plus. What do you think 569 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: about their draft? I like it a lot, and I 570 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: think one of the things that you got to look 571 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 1: at is Josh Snyder likes draft a lot of players, right, 572 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: That's kind of what the Seahawks do. They love having 573 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: draft picks, love having depth. But something that was telling 574 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: to me obviously didn't have a ton of draft capital. 575 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: This wasn't like when we traded Frank Clark and we 576 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: got another first round and this and that, well we 577 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: had we had to get. We lost some of those, right, 578 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: Jamal Adams, technically he is a first round pick. I know, 579 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 1: people it's not a direct relations understand that, but that's 580 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: the player we got, right. We lost the fifth round 581 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: because of Carlos Dunlap and Gabe Jackson. So those are 582 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: players that are going to start and play for us 583 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: right now. So the fact that they only had three 584 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: what I like about is, yeah, they had a couple 585 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 1: of trades, but it seemed like they went and got 586 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: the people that they wanted. They got the people that 587 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: they wanted the highest, not only highest on their board, 588 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: but also fit and need. So like, I love the draft, 589 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 1: and maybe I'm just so in love with the speed 590 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: that I saw that we got in this class. I'll 591 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: give me nay miney. So I think they came out 592 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 1: and they did what they wanted to do, and they 593 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: got the guys that can come out and compete and 594 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 1: contribute right now. And we've learned you gotta trust the 595 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: process when it comes to Peteon Genre right, they've had 596 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: one hundred and five draft choices. Forty seven of these 597 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: guys are still on NFL rosters. Twenty nine of them 598 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: remain on the Seattle Seahawk roster. So it's not People 599 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: have to realize it's a marathon. Like God, people want 600 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: people to come in right now and contribute and be superstars. 601 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: That's not how the NFL will works. Sometimes you hit, 602 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: Sometimes guys work out that way, but sometimes you don't. 603 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 1: Here a couple of notable draft picks Earl Thomas, Golden Take, 604 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: Kim Chancellor, kJ Richard Sherman, Maxwell, Bruce Irbert and Bobby 605 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: Wagon to Russell Wilson, guys forget about I don't think 606 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: they don't forget about them. But they've had so much success. 607 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 1: It's like people always looking for the negative, like, don't 608 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: forget they've had some success when it comes to the draft. Now, 609 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 1: undrafted free agents, they've had some success too, of course. 610 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: Dougie Fresh, Doug Balwin got Jared Johnson, Ricardo Lockett, Mike Morgan, 611 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 1: Jermaine curse De, Sean Schatt who's on the coaching staff now, 612 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: Thomas Ross, George Fanton who's been here for a while, 613 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: Poona is still here. Brian monag I just listed all 614 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: about twenty five thirty solid football players now. No, And 615 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 1: that's the thing, because what happens is people recognize the 616 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 1: success Pete and john had in twenty ten, twenty eleven, 617 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: twenty twelve, right, so, but everyone goes, oh, what have 618 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: you done for me lately? And there's this narrative that 619 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: the Seahawks have drafted so poorly the last five years, 620 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: and it's just not true. It's not true. And there's 621 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: a couple of things. You got to look at. Number one, 622 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 1: just because that person necessarily didn't get a second contract 623 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: with the Seahawks, wasn't with his name, But it's not 624 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 1: mean that was a bad pick or a bad class. 625 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: Like say what you want about Jermaine Effetti, he was 626 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: drafted twenty sixteen, was a starter in his still a 627 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: starter and got a contract from Chicago. Jaron Reid was 628 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: a startup until last year. Right. Quentin Jefferson has bounced 629 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: around the league, had been a starter ever where he's 630 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 1: been jump into twenty seventeen. Ethan Posti currently a starter. 631 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: Shaquille Griffin was a startup until last year. And you know, 632 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: got some money in Jacksonville, right, David Moore just got 633 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: paid in Carolina. Chris Carson are starting running back in 634 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: the seventh round. And it's just one of those things 635 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: where it's hard to I just feel like the narrative 636 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 1: that things have been so bad, Yeah, Malik McDowell, things 637 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: that were out of everyone else's control. No one knew 638 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: that something an unfortunate event like that could happen. So 639 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: it's hard. It's hard to look at those. And then 640 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: you go into the recent draft picks, Okay Rashad Penny, 641 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: Rasheem Green, Will dis Lee, Trey Flowers, Michael Dixon, there's 642 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: all the guys that are contributing right now, so and 643 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: it's it's hard. You really can't assess the draft class 644 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: till it's been four or five years. I just think 645 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: people want to compare everything to the success in twenty 646 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: ten to twenty twelve, and it's just not it's not 647 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: accurate because it's not fair. Those are those are Hall 648 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: of Fame draft classes, those go down it's the best 649 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: of all time. So it's hard to keep comparing stuff 650 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: to that when they've actually had some pretty good draft 651 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: picks and guys that are still on this roster is 652 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: still contributing a lot of guys that's you know, still 653 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: the verdict is still out, if you will, but it's 654 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: just it's just not fair. Frust Pete and John they 655 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: know what they're doing, and their Pettie continues to show 656 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: that they know what they're doing. Twenty nineteen. You got 657 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: call he Or who really just had his rookie season 658 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: this past year. I think he's gonna get better. Mark 659 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: Keiths Blair, who was a starter before he got hurt. 660 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: We all know about DK Metcalf. Cody barn has been 661 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: making noise on special teams all year. He still got 662 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: ugo when the mix been berg curving. Travis Homer had 663 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: one of the greatest pass pro pickups in all of 664 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one against the Minnesota Vikings on fourth down 665 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: to get that ball to DK. So there are more 666 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: role players than superstars in the NFL, and everyone's looking 667 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: for a superstar. Every team needs superstars, but they're way 668 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: more role players than there are superstars now the twenty 669 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: any class I'm really feeling yet. Jordan Brooks, who played 670 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: Darryl Taylor will see what he does, who was ready 671 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: to go, would have played in the playoffs. Damian Lewis, 672 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: who's I'm here now, is being moved to left guard. 673 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: They gonna have Gabe have the right guard spot. Kobe Parkinson, 674 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: who showed some love Freddie Swain made a couple of 675 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: players though. I'm okay, man, I like you said, I've 676 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: learned to trust the process, especially when it comes to 677 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,959 Speaker 1: Schneider and Pete Carroll. So we talked about what the 678 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: Hawks did. Now we gotta go around the NFC West. 679 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: What's the word in the West and the Seahawks or 680 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: the NFC West champs? Again, what's the word in the West? 681 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: On Hawk talk? What's the word? I'll tell you what 682 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: the word is. Final standings in the NFC West Seattle 683 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: Seahawks twelve and four of the Rams ten and six 684 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: Cardinals eight eight in the nine or six and ten. 685 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: The Hawks, who won the West lost in the first round. 686 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: Rams are talking at talcas all. Y'all didn't win a 687 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: championship anyway. You didn't go to the Super Bowl, you 688 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,959 Speaker 1: didn't go to the conference championship game. We'll take our 689 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: T shirts and go hush. Forty nine ers. We talked 690 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: about it. Drafted Trade Lands out of North Dakota State. 691 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: I like the pick. It's scary because a mobile court, 692 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: another mobile quarterback in this division. You already gonna deal 693 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray. Now you got another guy who's gonna 694 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: make things happen. I expect to see this guy early. 695 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: Other than that, I don't think they did a lot 696 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: in this draft. The big pig maybe Trey Sermon at 697 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: Ohio State, the running back. Not too impressed. I saw 698 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: somebody I forget where I saw it. They gave the 699 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: forty nine. Excuse me, Yes, the forty nine is a 700 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: draft grade of a bum. Okay, I'll wrote that B 701 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: sounds good to me. What do you think? Yeah, I 702 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: mean Trey Lance. Obviously the verdicts is gonna be out 703 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: on him. But I think that's a great pick. Aaron 704 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: Banks card from Nutter name Trey Sermon. At least with 705 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: their first three picks, you're assuming you picked three starters, 706 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: right then. They had a lot of work in the 707 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: back ken of the draft. I'm not even gonna try 708 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: to pronounce the safety from sc I'm not even gonna 709 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: go there. But no, I think it's okay. Like I said, um, 710 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: Trey Lance and Trey Sermon, it's all about Lance, you know. 711 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, if Lance becomes an 712 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: All Pro Pro Bowl quarterback, and no one's gonna really 713 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: care about the rest of that draft. It's all about 714 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: Trey Lance and his success. So it'll be interesting to 715 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: see how quickly he can get on the field or 716 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: if Grimmy Garoppolo comes out and plays super well and 717 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: then Trey Lance has time to learn underneath Garoppolo. But 718 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: Garoppolo is an injury prone so their their draft to 719 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: me is it's hard to tell it's okay and nothing 720 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: really jumps off. It's all about the quarterback because he's 721 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: still got Deebo over there. Scot Brandon, I U Molstard 722 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: is still there. Like they have some guys around him, 723 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: George Kittle can't forget about George Kittles though. It's more 724 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: about how Lance will he beat out Jimmy Garoppolo, and 725 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: then if he does, how he inserts into this offense 726 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: with the Webbons around him. A lot of weapons are 727 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: the Cardinal Now their first pick sixteen overall, Xavin Collins 728 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: is a ball. They they've gotten so fast on defense man. 729 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: They Isaiah Isaiah simmonsze linebacker they drafted last year. Quick. 730 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: Now they go to the second level again with Davin 731 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: Collins and then Rondale More out of Purdue. It's funny 732 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: that the Cardinals, the Seahawks in the Rams kind of 733 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: all drafted the same type of receiver. And you know 734 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: that gets me hype nass under six foot receivers making noise. 735 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: I set my Sunday, I go, hey, pop stick at 736 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: this five nine drafting. I saw a five seven receiver drafted. 737 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: So all you all your Chardie's out there. You just 738 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: be fast and play hard. You might get an opportunity 739 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: in this league. I think the Cardinals did what they're 740 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: supposed to do. I mean, they had to go out 741 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: there and get a safety. They got a center, the 742 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: cornerback take going out of UCF. It's it's really after 743 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: those first two picks, you're kind of just filling boys 744 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: and putting depth into your roster. Yeah, I know you 745 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: you nailed the first two picks. I love those two. 746 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: Um A lot of speed on that defense man. They 747 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: got Buddha Banker in the back end, Murphy, they got 748 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: guys who can play and they're still gonna be definitely 749 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: very tough in the NFC West. And then Rondall Moore, 750 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 1: same kind of thing. You look at him, speed jumps 751 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: off the jumps off the page and something about speed 752 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: kills man. Every It's almost like everyone is trying to 753 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: one up the next person. Everyone's like, we need to 754 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: have that guy on a roster. Everyone needs to have 755 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: And that's just kind of the way the NFL is going. 756 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: So I think the Cardinals did a good job. I 757 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,760 Speaker 1: like their first two picks a lot blame the Chiefs 758 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: and Tyreek Hill for that. They show like, look you 759 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: fast out there. You got a quarterback who has an 760 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,439 Speaker 1: armed things to get done. Now the Rams, Now, the Rams, 761 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: now you were we were talking about this before we 762 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: got on. They got two two at will at a Louisville. 763 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: The guy is a hundred and sixty five pounds small guy. 764 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,760 Speaker 1: And if you listen to the post draft interview with Escris, 765 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: Escris kind of slipped up and said, um, the Rams, no, 766 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: the Cardinals up the kind of at his words all 767 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 1: mixed up. So we're thinking that the Rams were probably 768 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: gonna take a peek or try to drive escrats. If 769 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,439 Speaker 1: the Seahawks did it, I think they were all thinking 770 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: the same thing. We need this type of receiver, and 771 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: they got to do at well. Smaller guy, fastest. Heck, 772 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: he makes the tough catches. Um not really impressed with 773 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: his route running or whatnot, but the duds blazing. And 774 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 1: you get into this Rams offense, I would assume it 775 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: would resemble a Shane Waldron's offense. I don't think they're 776 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 1: just gonna change the playbook. We're gonna see him in 777 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: shallows and crossing routes and five to teen yard routes 778 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: and allow him to really get moving. I think the 779 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 1: Rams they're okay. It's more about helping out Stafford, and 780 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: I think they have enough there already. And then you 781 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 1: add two to to the mix, more weapons for this 782 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,439 Speaker 1: guy to play with it. Yeah. No, I mean they're 783 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 1: gonna be a tough They're gonna be tough game as 784 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: they always are. Then play the Seahawks. But if you 785 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 1: look at whatever they already have on offense, Cooper Cup, 786 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: Robert Woods. So you add another fast guy, I mean 787 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,040 Speaker 1: they're just they're so difficult. The nice thing is the 788 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: Seahawks were able to get Jerald Everett help that a 789 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: little bit on our offense. But No Two too. I 790 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: think I think both teams have those guys on their 791 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 1: board because they were looking for that type of playmaker 792 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 1: or that type of speed and the capability. And with 793 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: a Sean McVay, he's gonna find ways, whether it's when 794 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: they utilize the fly sweep or the different kind of 795 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: option routes. So they got going over there, so I 796 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: think I think he's gonna make plays. I think you 797 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: look the rest of the rest of the Rams draft, 798 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 1: it's all about It's all about depth. Because honestly, when 799 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: you look at just not even the players necessarily, but 800 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: the sheer amount of picks that looks like a Seahawks 801 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 1: draft when you see all those picks, and they were 802 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: trading a bunch and they went for they went for quantity, right, 803 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: because when you go through that draft, if you hit 804 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: on four of those guys, right, I mean, not all 805 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 1: those guys are gonna make the team, especially when you 806 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 1: have as many veterans as the Rams do. But they 807 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 1: went for they went for quantity, and they got a 808 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: lot of guys, and it'll be interesting to see how 809 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: that shapes up. But I think they did what they 810 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 1: wanted to do. I think Sean McVay was Stafford. They 811 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: got a year or they're They're still trying to win 812 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,720 Speaker 1: right now, and there's still gonna be a tough contest 813 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 1: for the Seahawks and the Cardinals, as every battle is 814 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: in the MCST. So I think the Rams did a 815 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 1: good job in sense of just helping get depth on 816 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 1: their roster. All about that depth. Now, my first impression 817 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: of the NFC West after the draft is that there's 818 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 1: no better division in this league. We already knew that, 819 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 1: and now there's no other division in this league with 820 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: the quarterback talent that's in this division, because now we're 821 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 1: talking about Colin Murray, Matthew Stafford. Jimmy Garoppolo is still 822 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: a good quarterback. He's not game changer. It's not gonna 823 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 1: overwhelm me with his talent, but he's been to a 824 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. He can get it done. And then you 825 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 1: add Trey Lance that makes and of course Russell Wilson. 826 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: This division just got that much tougher, and it's almost 827 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: like they're all kind of trying to be the same 828 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: type when it comes to office. Everyone's trying to get faster, 829 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: everyone's trying to get explosive. That's just the name of 830 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,280 Speaker 1: the game these days. That's why you see these smaller 831 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 1: receivers being drafted. Yeah, and if you look at every offense, 832 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 1: every offense has explosive, fast, wide receivers that'll run by you. 833 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,720 Speaker 1: Whether it's the Cardinals, the Seahawks, and the Rams throwing 834 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: some of the forty nine ers, it's gonna be. Points 835 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: are gonna be scored in this league. That's that's for sure, 836 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:13,919 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be it's gonna be a dog fight. 837 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 1: And while it's all about it's the depth of the 838 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 1: NFCUS and it's impressive because every single team, weekend and 839 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 1: week out, is going to compete. If the Niners are healthy, 840 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: they're a completely different team in twenty twenty one than 841 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: they were in twenty twenty. So again, the Seahawks have 842 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 1: their work cut out for him. But it's fun to 843 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: see get through the draft. It's a really fun time 844 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: of this year and it'll be interesting to see these 845 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: guys get out to mini camp. I know things are 846 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: a little different right now this year where some teams 847 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 1: doing in person workouts, some teams doing virtual So it'll 848 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: be interesting to see how these rookies taking another year 849 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: of virtual learning and see, like from a quarterback standpoint, 850 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 1: are you're gonna be able to ingest that in brand 851 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 1: new offense or brand new coaches and stuff. So it's 852 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 1: gonna be interesting offseason. I can't wait till we get 853 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 1: to the point where we have mandatory mini camps and 854 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: stuff and hopefully we can be out there watching them. 855 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: But it's gonna be funnier about should be a good one. 856 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. Let them know where that 857 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: can find us. Now you can find us everywhere you 858 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 1: get your podcasts, Seahawks dot Com, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and Stitcher. 859 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:16,919 Speaker 1: We gotta do this again, man, it's been too long, 860 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 1: been too long. The draft us over. We would be 861 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 1: getting ready for all these mini cans, but things have changed. 862 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: The rookies real report and we've got to sit here 863 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: and wait and see if the Hawks make any of 864 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 1: the moves. Something tells me they are going to do that. 865 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 1: It has been real. That's Hawk Talk Draft Recap Edition. 866 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Michael Bombas Alive with Mine Guy and 867 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: ask Toby, it's been real. We will talk to you 868 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: guys soon.