1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to our special live Q and A here at 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: the NFL combine with Giants General manager Joe Shane. I 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: am John smelkchie is Mattalin Barket's all brought to you 4 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: by Helman's, a Giant Fans scory Taste touchdown with Hellman's, 5 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: the official mayonnaise of the New York Giants. Joe, you 6 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: just got off of the podium doing a side session 7 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: with the local media as well. You kind of do 8 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: the run around with serious and everything this morning. Oh, 9 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: a lot of the big topics were about where you 10 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: are in terms of this team and the building process. 11 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: What would be your overview to Giant fans in terms 12 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: of your plan and getting this team back to where 13 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: they were and y're one of the regime as opposed 14 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: to last year in the disappointment of picking in the 15 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 1: top ten. 16 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say we're heading in the right direction. 17 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 2: Just when when you reflect back on the depth chart 18 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: when we got here to where we are now and 19 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 2: some of the pieces that we've added, and again it 20 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 2: takes time, whether it was salary cap restraint the first 21 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: couple of years. We're here and you're not a dead 22 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 2: money We had the first two years and then the 23 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: draft capitol. There's only so much you can do with 24 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: the resources you have. So I think if you look 25 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: at the past two drafts, whether starters or role players, 26 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: you know, free agency last year, some of the players 27 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 2: we were able to sign, but then also the retention 28 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 2: of our own you know, some of those deals we 29 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: did last year, some really good young players. So again 30 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: is a room for growth, and we've got a lot 31 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 2: of work to do. Absolutely, reflecting on the process, where 32 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 2: we are and where we are now, i'd say we're 33 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: better off than where we were, and we're going to 34 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: continue to build it the right way. And I understand 35 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: the urgency and year three and ramp it up, but 36 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 2: it takes time to build these things. And I just 37 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: told somebody we didn't win a playoff game in Buffalo 38 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: until year four, but there was a plan in place 39 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: and now you see sustained success. So it takes time. 40 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: That we're going to do it. Nobody wants to win 41 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 2: more than me and Dave's and we're going to do 42 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: everything we can, but there's a right way to build it. 43 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: We're going to continue to focus on that plan. 44 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 3: We are taking your ahead. 45 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: Tell fans you're taking your questions at two A one 46 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: nine three five one three reply to the Giants tweet 47 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: on Twitter about the live Q, and A will take 48 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: questions from there and will monitor some questions from YouTube 49 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: as well. 50 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 3: Mann' go ahead, I'm sorry. Oh that's all right. 51 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 4: And one of the things that you know you talked 52 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 4: about earlier that came up on the podium is just 53 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 4: the pleasant surprise that is this year's salary cap number. 54 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 4: I know that you guys as a staff were addressing 55 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 4: it in a more conservative way. That's got to change 56 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 4: a lot of the approach of how you guys look 57 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 4: at free agency, the franchise tag, the transition tag. And 58 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 4: as we're starting to get questions from fans, one of 59 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 4: the questions that we're getting from met South Florida. She says, 60 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 4: what is the team's biggest need going into free agency 61 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 4: and the draft? And I just throw in, like, how 62 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 4: this salary cap kind of changes that? 63 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say that salary cap the way we 64 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 2: were mapping out the off season, we're pretty conservative in 65 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: our approach, and I like to do that the way. 66 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 2: If it comes in more than we think, it's a 67 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 2: pleasant surprise. But I don't think anybody could have anticipated 68 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 2: it was going to go where it went, which was 69 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: which was great. So we're going to recalibrate look at 70 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: our plans now that we have the additional funds. We're 71 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: still going to be smart with the way we're you know, 72 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: the way we're operating, and we still want to stay 73 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: in good cap health, you know, kind of look at 74 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: it in a three year window. But in terms of 75 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: our biggest needs, we have several needs. I mean, we're 76 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 2: looking for good football players that fit our culture and 77 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: whether it's you know, guys were going to draft or 78 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 2: or players that we sign outside the building, We're gonna 79 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: do our homework and you know, make sure the right 80 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 2: fits for us. So we have multiple needs. 81 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 3: You know. 82 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: Again, over time, free agency will help develop the plan 83 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: towards the draft in terms of what priorities are. Then 84 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: two to three weeks from now, the roster look completely 85 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: different based on what we do in for agency. 86 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, you right to take some phone calls, Joe, Yeah, absolutely, 87 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 3: let's do it. 88 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: Two A one nine, three, nine four five one three 89 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: Giant fans get on the line again. One quick question. 90 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: We're gonna cut you off, no follow ups. We want 91 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: to get in as many close as we possibly can. 92 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: Let's lead it off with Brandon in Long Island. Brandon, 93 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: you're on with guntsheneral manager Joe Shane. 94 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 5: Go ahead, Hey Joe, thanks. 95 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 4: For taking the time. 96 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 6: I had a question about bringing in Bowen as a 97 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 6: new defensive coordinator and switching up the scheme. How does 98 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 6: that affect your evaluation of the players that you're. 99 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 5: Looking to bring in as well as the guys on 100 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 5: the roster? 101 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, I appreciate the question, And this was brought 102 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 2: up a little bit earlier when I was a young scout. 103 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: Bill Parcels used to say, you know, if I bring 104 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: in good football players where you draft them or sign them, 105 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 2: don't ever draft somebody or sign some as just scheme 106 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: specific specifically if you're going to draft them and you 107 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 2: have them for four to five years. So we've kind 108 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 2: of kept that philosophy in mind throughout the draft since 109 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: I've been here. So there really aren't any guys on 110 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: our defense that are schem specific. There's versatility. If we 111 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 2: would have went to a four to three, those guys 112 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: could still play that along with our cover guys, or 113 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: if we stayed into three four, So it really won't 114 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 2: affect any of the players that are on the current roster, 115 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 2: they'll be able to play in Shane Bowen's system. And 116 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 2: he's a bright young coach. They had a lot of 117 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 2: success in in Tennessee and you know we played against 118 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 2: him when I was in Buffalo for three or four 119 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 2: years in a row. And really tough, physical group that's 120 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 2: fast and play smart. 121 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 122 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: At the same time, just to follow up, I remember 123 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: you spoke about this when Wink was here getting an 124 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: idea of the players that he likes. 125 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 3: It would be most effective as hit system. 126 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: So obviously you're going to balance being able to play 127 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: multiple spots, but at the same time you're going to 128 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: try to get players that he thinks he needs to 129 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: be successful this year. 130 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: Is absolutely yeah. And philosophically, you know, Wink preferred more 131 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 2: run stoppers on first and second down. Let's get to 132 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 2: third down where we can do the exotics and blitz 133 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 2: and all that stuff, where change philosophy is going to 134 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: be a little bit Morelet's let's get after the passer, 135 00:04:58,360 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: like we will stop the run on the way to 136 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 2: the pass, and I'm going to look for more you know, 137 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 2: edge guys and you know, ability to to rush the 138 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 2: passer versus the stop the run. Stopping the run is 139 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 2: still going to be important, It's always going to be important, 140 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 2: but in terms of how you're prioritizing those, you may 141 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 2: flip those in the new scheme. 142 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 4: Well, and as you mentioned too to that point last year, 143 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 4: right before the draft, you mentioned that that was something 144 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 4: that had changed the way you approached the draft, like 145 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 4: learning what your coach is prioritize. Having a couple of 146 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 4: years as a general manager under your belt, does it 147 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 4: make it easier to kind of absorb those things and 148 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 4: prioritize those things as you look at the draft and 149 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 4: free agency. 150 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's never easy because you don't want to draft 151 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: a player that the coaches don't want. But that's what 152 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 2: your personnel staff does. And there are discrepancies. We're going 153 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 2: to like players that may be the coaching staff they 154 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: don't like, but we know they're good players. So trying 155 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,559 Speaker 2: to be delicate and tew you in how you handle 156 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 2: those situations. You try to bring them your way or 157 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: on board. And because again just in history says, if 158 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: you draft the player they don't want, they're not invested. 159 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 2: The chances of success usually goes down. Sometimes unfortunately, but yeah, 160 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: we're always going to work with our staff. I think 161 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 2: it's important than to be involved in the process that way. 162 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 2: They have buy in when you draft or sign a player. 163 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: So that'll always be important part of the process. 164 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: All right, let's go back to the phones. Let's go 165 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: to Derek and New York. Derek, you're a up next 166 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: with Giants show manager Joe Shane. 167 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 5: Hey, Joe, how's it going good? 168 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 2: How are you? 169 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 5: I guess what what I wanted to ask is, you know, 170 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 5: we as fanned, we see everything that that the media 171 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 5: puts out regarding everything obviously with playing, departing from the 172 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 5: team and bringing in new coaches. What's your plan as 173 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 5: far as you plan to bring the coaching staff, to 174 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 5: get the entire coaching staff together to have a conversation 175 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 5: to have a productive year coming up, because it seemed 176 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 5: like towards the end of the season there was a 177 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 5: lot of you know, a lot of heartbreak and it 178 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 5: seems like a lot of the coaches were ready to 179 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 5: depart team. 180 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 3: Thanks. 181 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I appreciate the question. Again, we still 182 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 2: competed till the end. I mean the Rams made the playoffs. 183 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 2: We were in that game till the end. We beat 184 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 2: the Eagles, We took them to the end when we 185 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: played there, So you know, the perception outside in the 186 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 2: reality inside sometimes there's a there's a gap there. And 187 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 2: some of those articles come from sources that you know 188 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: have an agenda, So again, you know, maybe the truth 189 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,679 Speaker 2: somewhere in the middle. But again, we like the staff 190 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: that Dave's brought in, a lot of good coaches, good 191 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 2: teammates that we're gonna get along. And we're on to 192 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. You know, we're twenty twenty threes in 193 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 2: the past, and not only Dave's but myself as a leader, 194 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: and how we did things the first time we went 195 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: through adversity. We're all going to learn and grow from 196 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: those situations, and that's what we need to do. So 197 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: when we reflect on that, we'll grow, we'll get better, 198 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 2: and the organization as a whole will be better as 199 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 2: we move forward. 200 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 3: I got three questions here via email, Joe. 201 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: They're old quarterback related, so I'm gonna try to combine 202 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: them into one for you, would you be willing to 203 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: draft a quarterback in the first round or even trade 204 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: up for one? And what's deep part of the evaluation 205 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: of the quarterback position. In your opinion, that's the toughest 206 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: that you're really trying to figure out when you do 207 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: all the meetings with these guys and kind of go 208 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: through the tape. 209 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, in terms of the draft, like we're gonna look 210 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 2: at every position in the first round. We're not going 211 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: to preclude it. Like we have a lot of needs 212 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 2: on this team, so we're gonna look at every position. 213 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: I'm not going to single one out where We're going 214 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 2: to do our homework on all of those positions at 215 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 2: the combine, spring pro Day's privates, whatever it may be, 216 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: We're going to do the work. And then what was 217 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 2: your second. 218 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 3: Question in terms of the valuing the quarterback? 219 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: It's so hard, Like what's the most difficult thing about 220 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: trying to figure out how these guys will translate from 221 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: their college system to the NFL and how you try 222 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: to sort that out. 223 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the person because we can all watch the 224 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: tape and you okay, that's a good throw he anticipates, 225 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: you know, but getting them in the classroom, how they learn, 226 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 2: and then who they are as people. Leadership is important 227 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 2: at that position. And then let's face it, like we're 228 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 2: in New York, like largest market in the country. So 229 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 2: you got to be able to handle adversity and be 230 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: in every move being scrutinized every drive, every series, every game, 231 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 2: every week, facing the media in the locker room every week, 232 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: week after week. So you have to be built a 233 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 2: certain way because that can eat away at you. So 234 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: as great as a guy may look on film, draft him, 235 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 2: take him number one, trade up, two, three, whatever, if 236 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 2: the makeup isn't right and it's going to eat him 237 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 2: up and spit them out like, you got to be 238 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 2: right on that too, because you can be as talented 239 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 2: as you want, but if you can't handle the pressure 240 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 2: of the market or what comes with leading a team, 241 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: there's a high fail factor. 242 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: Well you get what now, Sorry, would follow up on 243 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 1: that before we move off to the quarterback spot. When you 244 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: watch the playoffs this year, Joe, you saw the last 245 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: eight teams the high level of play, right, Like these 246 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: guys are superheroes, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes even you know, 247 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: just go around the league. How important is it to 248 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: continue to in the league now you have that elite 249 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: level of quarterback play to compete for Super Bowl? Is 250 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: it even possible to do it without having that elite play. 251 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, there's only so many of those guys walking 252 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 2: this through. Of course, it's very hard untunately, but I 253 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 2: mean we have a guy on our roster that played 254 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,599 Speaker 2: at that level again at Minnesota last year in a 255 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 2: road playoff game. You know, that's still young. So for sure, 256 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 2: again it's in there. And again I think it's everybody's 257 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 2: you know, hyper focus on the quarterback position, which I understand, 258 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: but you also have to build a team, Like look 259 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 2: at brock perty mister irrelevant, and you can't you can't 260 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: tell me there's a team. I mean, put his talent 261 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: as around him, you know, Hall of Fame left tackle, 262 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 2: you know, the receivers, they have, the running back, they 263 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 2: have like a coach that there's been continuity that's been 264 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: there year over years. 265 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 7: Those teams all did it in different ways, right, they 266 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 7: all did it in different ways. And they tried to 267 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 7: go out and get a quarterback, yeah they did. Yeah, 268 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 7: and that was with Dallas. But again, so there's different 269 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 7: ways to build the team. 270 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 2: You look across the league, you're always looking at you know, 271 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 2: different plans and how teams did it, and you know, 272 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 2: what's the best way to do it. And we're going 273 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 2: to do it our way, and you know, we got 274 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: a plan in place, and you know, we'll see how 275 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 2: it plays out well. 276 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 4: And Joe, one of the things that you mentioned earlier 277 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 4: is finding somebody that can handle the New York market, 278 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 4: and that's something that we hear a lot. It's talked 279 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 4: about a lot, and that the perception of what that means, 280 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 4: I think is taking different ways. How do you evaluate 281 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 4: if someone can handle that pressure, because there's there's different 282 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 4: levels of the way players receive and handle pressure. So 283 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 4: what do you get from a sense of an interview 284 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 4: or the way that they have handled themselves that says, yes, 285 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 4: this guy has the makeup and the moxie to do it. 286 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, that's a great question, and it's hard to 287 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 2: quantify that. Okay, Now you can look at the players 288 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 2: and say, Okay, this guy played let's say Kayleb Willis 289 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: Williams at USC, Well he was in LA which is 290 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: a big market, or if you're at Oklahoma or Alabama 291 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 2: and that's the only that's the NFL team within the state. 292 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 2: But again, some of these players you're talking about that 293 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 2: high in the draft really haven't faced adversity. They've been 294 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: number one recruits five stars started early in their career, 295 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 2: had tremendous success, So how they may not know how 296 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 2: they're going to react when adversity strikes because a lot 297 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 2: of them haven't experienced that. 298 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 4: They have only lost two games in their entire career exactly. 299 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: And then you know how much they are on social media. 300 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 2: All these kids are on it all the time. Are 301 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 2: you going to read what people are saying? And and 302 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 2: they're humans, so that could begin to eat in the 303 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 2: road at young men, and that can affect their psyche 304 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 2: and their play. And it's just it's just a different 305 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 2: ballgame when you're evaluating these kids and once they get 306 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: in the building. Part of the onboarding process, we try 307 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 2: to give as much sport as we can. 308 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 3: Let's go back to the phones. 309 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: Let's go to James in New York. James, you're up 310 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: next with Giants general manager Joe Shane. 311 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 5: Hey, jam. 312 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 8: One, are you into the free agent I do you 313 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 8: really look into the free agents this year? 314 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 2: Uh? On the on the Giants or outside the Giants? 315 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 8: Outside the Giants? 316 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 2: Like yeah, absolutely, yeah, absolutely, thank you, James. 317 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: Just to follow up, then, you know you talk about 318 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: position value in the draft, right and you want to 319 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: target the guys at the high value positions, get them 320 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: a better contract, you save money. Right, So the opposite 321 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: of that would be and I think we maybe saw 322 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: this with Bobby olca K last year, the positions where 323 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: the tag is in is high and the overall top 324 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: salary of the spots aren't as big. Are you more 325 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: likely to go at those positions through free agency just 326 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 1: because it's more manageable from an economic standpoint? 327 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, it depends. And again there's there's a lot of 328 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 2: unknowns in free agency because you don't get to do 329 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: a physical with the kids. You don't get to see 330 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 2: them on a daily basis in terms of how they work, ethic, 331 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 2: play through pain, how they practice, a lot of those 332 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 2: things that there's uncertainty in free agency. Where the draft 333 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 2: we get to spend a lot of time with these kids. 334 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 2: So when you're gonna spend a high dollar amountain free agency, 335 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 2: you better know what you're getting. Yeah, and it's hard. 336 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 2: There's risk involved there. You know, it's happened here in 337 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 2: the past with high dollar free agents and all over 338 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 2: the league, So there's a lot of risk involved. And 339 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 2: I think spending time with these prospects now isn't just 340 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 2: for this draft, but down the road. It's okay, Yeah, 341 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: we spent a lot of time with him coming out 342 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 2: in the draft. He'd be our type of guy. We 343 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 2: spent a lot of time with him. So it's not just, 344 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 2: you know, for this year's draft when you're spending time 345 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 2: with these kids, it's down the road and free agency 346 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 2: as well. 347 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 4: And speaking of knowing what you're getting, one of the 348 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 4: things that you might actually just experience right now is 349 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 4: somebody who calls into the Giants programming quite a bit, 350 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 4: and he is on the line right now with a question. 351 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 4: As we go back to the phone lines. Charlie from Portland, Maine, 352 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 4: big Giants fan, longtime collared Charlie, you're on the line 353 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 4: with Giants dam Joe Shane. 354 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 3: What do you got. 355 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 8: Like? 356 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 6: Just talk to you? 357 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 9: This might be a little friendly fire. I know every 358 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 9: time someone talks about Daniel Jones, they talked about the 359 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 9: Minnesota game, But I can bring up twenty other games 360 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 9: when he wasn't very good at all, like the Dallas 361 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 9: game when it was forty to nothing, the Philadelphia divisional game. 362 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 8: When he was gone awful. What do you see in 363 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 8: this guy? I don't get it, especially injury acl a concussion. 364 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 8: How can you move on with guy? 365 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 3: Thank you, jolly thanks. 366 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 2: I appreciate the question. Uh yeah, what I see is 367 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 2: I see a young man that has all the physical 368 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 2: tools and athleticism to play the quarterback in the NFL. 369 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 2: I think there's some circumstances that were out of his control, 370 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: and some of that's on me in terms of bringing 371 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 2: talent in on the offensive line or depth when injuries 372 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 2: occur where he can have some success. And listen, Daniels 373 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 2: played played well in some important games and again we 374 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 2: have faith in Daniel. And again when he gets back healthy, 375 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 2: the expectation is he'll be the starter and we're going 376 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 2: to continue to try to surround him with the best 377 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 2: supporting cast that we can so he can have success. 378 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: When excuse an Arnold in Woodland Park, he's been holding 379 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: since the start of the show. 380 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 3: Arnold that wanted to get you in with Joe real quick. 381 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 3: What do you got for Joe? 382 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 6: How's it going Joe? I just wanted to ask about 383 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 6: stake on Barkley. I think that he's a generational talent. 384 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 6: I wander to know how much you factor in the 385 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 6: market value being an all time loaf for running back. 386 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 6: I mean, what are the plans if you don't time 387 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 6: take one to get a running back way worse for 388 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 6: a little bit less or to playing on hit on 389 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 6: one on these draft. 390 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a it's a deep free agent 391 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 2: market if you look at it. There's plenty of guys 392 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 2: out there that there are three of them that were 393 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 2: franchised last year that'll be on the market. You have 394 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 2: Austin Eckler, you have Devin Singletary, Zach Moss. Like it's 395 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 2: it's a long list if you look it up. So again, 396 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 2: what whether you look compare their stats or whatever it 397 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 2: may be. You know, we take that into account. No 398 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 2: different if you're gonna go sell a house, you're gonna 399 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 2: sell your own house. You're gonna look at comps and 400 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 2: that's that's how we come up with value. You look 401 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 2: at comps around the league based on age production, and 402 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 2: then you come up with a value that you're happy with, 403 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 2: and if you can get a deal done, you do. 404 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: If not, you look elsewhere. 405 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: Joe, we're gonna wrap up the final question before we 406 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: say goodbye. No one asked about wide receivers in this 407 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: little Q and A. 408 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 3: We did here. 409 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: How much do you consider wide receiver a force multiplier 410 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: position where if you have a guy at that spot 411 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: that's really good and you force defenses to adjust to 412 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: that play like you guys had with Stefan, Jags and Buffalo, right, 413 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: do you believe it in that philosophy in terms of 414 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: having a really big time player at that position. 415 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, as many offensive weapons as you can, it helps. 416 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 2: And you know, again when we added Steph, Josh's game 417 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 2: really took off. But we also had a lot of 418 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 2: successful complimentary pieces like Cole Beasley and John Brown. So 419 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 2: I like the group we have. They have a different 420 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 2: skill set. You have Jalen who can take the top 421 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 2: off the defense. You have Wan Dell who really came 422 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: on at the end of the year, and Slayton's been 423 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 2: steady eddy since he's been here. In terms of you know, 424 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 2: you know what you're getting, So adding another receiver, you know, 425 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 2: it's definitely in the mix. But you know, again, we 426 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 2: have enough needs that we're going to look, you know, 427 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 2: across the board left and right and take the best 428 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 2: player for the Giant. 429 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 3: Joe, this is great. Thank you so much for doing it. 430 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: Thank you Giants General Manager Joe Shane Our Life, Q 431 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: and A, brought to you by Hellman's. 432 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 3: Thank you for being with us. 433 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: Stay tuned to all of our coverage of the NFL 434 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: combined from Indianapolis all week long. 435 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 3: That's you being with us. We'll see you next time. Everybody,