1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Fools fix it to no one, but check your nucles 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: it back interception by Michael Davis. Chargers do come with 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: extravent on the rush. Throw to the sideline up for 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 1: bands and it is Andersick that I believe no single 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: signal yet Derwin James and the catch is Marride. It's 6 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: a back. Here's intercepted by the Chargers and Samuel and 7 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: the Sante Samuel tucks out of bounds with another takeaway 8 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: for this Charger defense. What did Nick Foles ever due 9 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: to our producer Justin Graver to embarrass him like that? 10 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: Three interceptions by Nick Foles in his return to the 11 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: starting lineup, first start for the Indianapolis Colts. It wasn't closed. 12 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: Twenty to three. The Los Angeles Chargers are headed back 13 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: to the playoffs, first time under Brandon Stay, really first 14 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: time with Justin Herbert, but the second time this year 15 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: that I've got Jordan Roderig with me on a Monday 16 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: night recap. Jordan's you cover the rams for the athletic 17 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: your team not going to the playoffs this year. But 18 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: the other resident of Sophi Stadium, the Los Angeles Chargers 19 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: are there. I know they're just maxing out that stadium, 20 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: aren't they. Yeah, I had a lot of fun on 21 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: on here with when we talked about raven Saints feels 22 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: like years ago. At this point, I felt like I 23 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: was kind of bugging you because I wanted to be 24 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 1: back on here um talking football and getting to watch 25 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: other games other than the team I've covered that's five 26 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: and ten this year. But although they were pretty fun 27 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: on on, they were Christmas with the fifty burger made 28 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: my daughter happy. But yes we're talking patties, thank you. 29 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: Oh there you go. I love that the Chargers, though 30 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: in an uninspiring game for the most part in terms 31 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: of its competitiveness, because of the Colts offense, get the 32 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: job done and they're they're celebrating. Uh it's a big 33 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: deal twenty two three, And yeah, I wanted to have 34 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: you back, Jordan. You're You're one of the best guests 35 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: we've had on Everyone loved hearing your football takes. And 36 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: this Chargers team has gotten a lot more interesting, I 37 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: think over the last month because of the defense. That's 38 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: where I'm gonna start. I know they were going against 39 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: Nick Foles, but they still only gave up ten first 40 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: downs and a hundred and seventy three yards. They've played 41 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: really well now three straight weeks. Brandon Staley, the old 42 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: Rams assistant, has been in his bag like, what what 43 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: have you seen out of this Chargers defense lately? Yeah, 44 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: it's been really interesting. Maybe it was something about watching 45 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: Sebastian Joseph day Um really occupy and sort of disrupt 46 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: space at the nose, or you know, maybe it was 47 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: Brandon Staley on the side. It's something about the way 48 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: that they've been playing, especially some of the coverage is 49 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,839 Speaker 1: they've been using that Miami game I thought was really 50 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: well coached, and then they've really brought it home defensively 51 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: the last few weeks. There's something about that that I 52 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: had this weird deja vu at that assante Samuel Pick. 53 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: It looked like, you know, the way he dropped off 54 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: that overhanging and sort of just like Red knew what 55 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: the concept was going to be before it totally unfolded. 56 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: Just when they're on the when they're on the outside 57 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: of that sort of shell that they play in and 58 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 1: the corner is able to even when they're if they're 59 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: in his zone or even if they're in some sort 60 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: of hybrid of a of a match zone, or something 61 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: like that. Um, you're allowed to sort of be free 62 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: and flexible if you're playing the way that Brandon's Daley 63 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: wants to play. You can pattern match, you can do 64 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: different things, um with a little bit more autonomy if 65 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: this thing is evolved and playing the way that it's 66 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: supposed to play. And so it reminded me a lot 67 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: of Darius Williams. Rams had like the season of his 68 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: career and made a bunch of money after that season 69 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: because he just was taking the ball away on similar 70 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: such concepts when he's just dropping in and and disrupting 71 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: and sort of matching and playing with vision and free 72 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: like that, and it's fun. I think they've been fun 73 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: to watch this This defense. It's supposed to be alive. 74 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: It's supposed to constrict and suffocate over the top of routes, 75 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: and it's also supposed to really disrupt in that way, 76 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: and it's supposed to evolve and and sort of really 77 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: empower the players. And that's kind of what I see 78 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: over the last few games. And my colleague Daniel Popper 79 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: at the Athletic he's written a little bit about the 80 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: players meetings that Kyle van Noy has been leading and 81 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: those types of things that really reminds me of sort 82 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: of what this ethos of this thing is supposed to 83 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: look like. And um, that's kind of It also does 84 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: describe what you said is Brandon Daley being in his 85 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 1: bag because this is what his vision is for something 86 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: like this, right. It's why I think this Chargers team 87 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: is a fun playoff team. Other than the fact that 88 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert wears a Charger's uniform, any any team with 89 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert's on it is going to be box office. 90 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: I can't wait for whatever the matchup is going to be. 91 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: It could be Herbert versus Lawrence, it could be Herbert 92 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: versus Burrow, it could be Herbert versus Mahomes or Alan. 93 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: The defense is the reason why I think they're a 94 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: real team. They they've made it to nine and six, 95 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: and the way you described it, um, really I think 96 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: points out how the coverage is starting to match the 97 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: pass rush and they just haven't had much of a 98 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: pass rush for most of the season. Today they have 99 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: seven sacks. And again, I know playing the Colts and 100 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: Titans and back to back weeks is a huge factor 101 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: in this. I mean it really is, But they weren't 102 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: the type of defense I don't think earlier in the 103 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: season that could beat up on bad offensive lines and 104 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 1: they end up with seven sacks today summer. From the 105 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:44,119 Speaker 1: linebacker level with with Blitz is Drew Tranquil, Kenneth Murray, 106 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: uh van Noy, I think got in there some. It's 107 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: from Rump and and Mac and Rump has been playing 108 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: better as the second pass rusher. Joey Bosa could be 109 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: back for the playoffs, so they they're getting heat. Nick 110 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: Foles didn't have a chance back there on some of 111 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: these plays. And then the secondary, to your point, I 112 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: think is playing with more freedom. Sante Samuel wants to 113 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: be a ball hawk like his dad was fifty one interceptions. 114 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: I looked it up uh tonight for his dad, So 115 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: he's got forty seven to go as Sante Junior is 116 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: only at at four right now through through two seasons. Uh. 117 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: Derwin James, we can talk about his ejection uh later, 118 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: but that interception that he made was fantastic. And I 119 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: just think that this is a defense that has playmakers 120 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: at every level. I considered Tranquil a playmaker. You get 121 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: Bosa back, Joseph Day has been back. I think they 122 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: found something in Um in their defensive tackle. How do 123 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: you pronounce his last name? Uh semi uh faho too. 124 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: He's played well lately. It just feels like they're a 125 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: complicated defense. Tell me if I'm wrong. It's it's like 126 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: a lot going on, and they want to change up 127 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 1: who they are week to week in a different way 128 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: than Bill Belich does, but on some level that way, 129 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: but you need to have like a team that really 130 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: understands what they're doing for that to work. And for 131 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: much of the season and much of Staley's career and 132 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: with the Chargers, it hasn't worked because I don't think 133 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: they've really understood what he want they want he wanted 134 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: them to do, and now it's working. Yeah, I think um. 135 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: Something that I learned about him when he was coordinating 136 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: the Rams defense was the way that he could explain 137 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: and sort of give players the answers to the test, 138 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: but then help them see it and not just you know, 139 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: hear it or be talking at them or showing them 140 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: clips or whatever. It was really something that they the 141 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: players internalized, and this was something they learned, you know, 142 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: basically over Power Point essentially because the buildings and everything 143 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: were shut down at that time. And the first time 144 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,679 Speaker 1: they ran it was like, you know, deep deep into 145 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: the summer when the building reopened UM post start of pandemic. 146 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: And so I think, you know, I wouldn't be surprised 147 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: if he has sort of been relying on a little 148 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: bit of those foundational points from his own career arc, 149 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: especially as things have seemed to kind of in the 150 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: middle there with injuries and and you know, just some 151 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: some lack of cohesion. It felt like on both sides 152 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: of the ball. UM. I wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised 153 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: if you sort of leaned into some of those foundational 154 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: elements of the teaching part of this because once players 155 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: um feel that they know the answers to the test, 156 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: that's really where you're seeing them, you know, jump over 157 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: the top of these routes and like I said, they 158 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: always have pattern matched in practice, but really feeling what 159 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: it's supposed to look like and really feeling what it 160 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: is to like I said, have this thing have life 161 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: in it in it and like it sort of evolves 162 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: and changes UM as the players feel more and more 163 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: empowered within the system. And that's what that's what I see. 164 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,359 Speaker 1: And again because I watched a different variation of it, um, 165 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: you know, very very closely for for a year and 166 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: then sort of dropped into this thing tonight essentially, And 167 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: that's sort of what I saw. UM. And yes, it's 168 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: you know, Nick Foles and then the cold and they're 169 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: having their own problems. But again, like you said, it's 170 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: you know, your brain doesn't compute a team beating up 171 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: on this oldligne with how much has been invested in. 172 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: They've not been good this year, but your brain like 173 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: does not compute the lopsided nature of of what this 174 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: thing is. And so this was you know, a game 175 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 1: that this defense did need to completely assert itself and 176 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: completely dominate UM, and they did. And I think that 177 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: that's a credit like like you said, Brendan's daily being 178 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: in his bag the last month or so. But I 179 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: think over the years we've seen wherever this defense has gone, 180 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: it's gotten better. If it's supposed if it's doing what 181 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: it's supposed to do, like I said, if it's evolving 182 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: and and becoming more alive and empowered with the players 183 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: it UM, it definitely gets better as the year goes on. 184 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: That's what it's supposed to do. So I think that's 185 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: an important part of this too. That's very Belichick into 186 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 1: with his old defenses that they would improve in December, 187 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: and again, yeah it's the Colts, but they dominated the 188 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: Colts offense more than the Vikings did, more than the 189 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: Cowboys did, more than the Steelers did. I'm thinking of 190 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: the Jeff Saturday or even more than than the Eagles 191 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: did in terms of yardage, in terms of points. So 192 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: that that's all you can do is play the team 193 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: in front of you. I I can't understand why Brandon 194 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: Staley is pumped up right now. We're seeing kind of 195 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: the reports of them celebrating. Our colleague Bridget Condon, who 196 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: has been on this show saying she's never seen like 197 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: a locker room like this with the charges, and it 198 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: makes sense. It's a big deal making the playoffs, music playing, 199 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: everyone's celebrating. The cults. Reporters are like, oh wow, this 200 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: is what a happy team looks like. You think about 201 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: Staley and they've had some winning. It's only been two seasons, 202 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: but it wasn't that long ago that we're sitting at 203 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: six and six and Sean Payton is having his sources 204 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: tell the media that he's looking at l A teams 205 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: and that's that's Brandon Staley because there's a Super Bowl 206 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: winner and the other other l A team, and who knows, 207 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: maybe maybe McVeigh could have a surprise retire And that's 208 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: what Peyton's thinking. But I think he's thinking the Chargers 209 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: and and they're at six and six, they're heading to 210 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: a stretch against the Dolphins and the Titans, who at 211 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: the time we're looking like world beaters. And I was thinking, like, 212 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 1: this is a big moment in his career. So I 213 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: totally get why they are celebrating. And it's the first time, 214 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 1: you know, since they moved to so far that they'll 215 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: make the playoffs. They did make the playoffs one time, uh, 216 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: their first year technically in l A, although they were 217 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: down in in Carson with Philip Rivers. But anytime you 218 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: can get to the playoffs first time in five years, 219 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: it's a big deal. Do you have confidence though, in 220 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: where their offenses? This is a limited sample size. I 221 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: know you're watching tonight, but I think this was a 222 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: good sample because I think the Colts are a good defense. 223 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 1: They're not a top five defense, but I would put 224 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: him in the five the six to ten range. A 225 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: really good defensive line who played well tonight. How do 226 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: you think the Chargers offense stacked up against him? You know, 227 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: I did. I did do a lot of research coming 228 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: into this, because you know me, Greg, I like to 229 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: be prepared, and then I go down prepared, I go 230 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: down these like we're I get so excited about just 231 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: random details and I find and then I just go 232 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: down these rabbit holes of information gathering and like most 233 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: of it I don't even use, but just sits there 234 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: and like a Google doc, but I had it written down. 235 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: At one point, I wanted to bring up the point 236 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: that uh, total superstar and the brilliant Mena Kimes brought 237 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: up about um justin Herbert and moving his pocket and 238 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: um getting him going in some of this like boot 239 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: action and some of these types of things where he 240 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: can throw on the move and it helps his line, 241 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: and um, you kind of already you didn't see any 242 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: of that to open the game, and um, you know 243 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: the other thing the game though, Yeah, and and especially 244 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: coming after interceptions on the other side, I mean, it 245 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: just was like this sort of gasping feeling that you 246 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: just didn't feel like anything was comfortable. It felt like 247 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: what it feels like to be like sitting in a 248 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: doctor's office and you're like, shoulders are clenched. That's what 249 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: it felt like watching this group. And it shouldn't feel 250 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 1: like you gotta freaking no, it's not. That's not in 251 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: the Google clenching up talking about it right now, like 252 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: on the screen, like my fists are clenched right now, 253 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: and you got a freaking Lamborghini at quarterback. And it's 254 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: just it's it shouldn't feel like that, right, And and 255 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: it's interesting because you know, I'm not really the type, 256 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: especially if I don't you know, as a beat I'm 257 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: a beat writer, so I you know, I know my 258 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 1: place and I'm not going to sit there and go 259 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: scorched earth on another team's coordinator or anything like that. 260 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: But I do think that it shouldn't feel like that. 261 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: And it was really noticeable, like they live and die 262 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: only on these third downs and that shouldn't be the 263 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: case since he got there and they're not, but they're not. 264 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: They're so dependent on converting specifically on third downs, no 265 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: matter what the down and distances, and usually it's not 266 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,359 Speaker 1: super advantageous. And even so that's such a low probability 267 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: position to put your quarterback in even if he can 268 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: do it. So there's like multip of things that are true, like, yes, 269 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: he can do it, he can make the hard throws, 270 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: he can convert the crazy downs that what was it 271 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: third and thirteen and it was sixteen yards and like 272 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 1: it was a really nice play that was on after 273 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: a second in twenty one that was that was one 274 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: of the key sequences on their first touchdown drive super 275 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: disadvantag at disadvantageous spot. Though even if your quarterback can 276 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: do it, doesn't mean he always should have to be 277 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: in that type of, um, you know, live or die 278 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: kind of mode in that regard. And I think that 279 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: that's been so interesting, like you know, the managing the 280 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: down and distance. They've been so something like sixty six 281 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: percent of their conversions are coming on third down and 282 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: like it's it's crazy, it's really lopsided, and it's it's 283 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: something where you know, if if you can, I know, 284 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: they've had troubles running the ball and all that stuff. 285 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: Us Nickler, by the way, I love his guitar celebration. 286 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: I think that's like one of the best ones iconic, 287 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: I know, iconic, and and he scores, he scores really 288 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: well and all of that but in terms of that overall, 289 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: like I know I've had some troubles with the run game, 290 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: but in terms of hey, you know, get your have 291 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: your quarterback just dropped back and and try to make 292 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: something happen to me. Just because you can do that 293 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you always should. And that's why my shoulders 294 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: are clenched. Right. They went eight for eighteen and third down, 295 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: So that's very that's very good. Probably it's good, but 296 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: it's still a fifty probability right right. You know what 297 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: to get probability that's been his whole career is wait 298 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: until you get the third down and let Herbert make 299 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: a play. I mean, it is much better than the 300 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: Colts who went over ten on third down. They went 301 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: a whole game without getting down, and I was like, man, 302 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: that's brutal. When was the last time that happened. I 303 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, six games ago with the Patriots. Uh, 304 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: the Colts went over fourteen on third down and that 305 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: got Frank Reik fired. Uh. So they're not gonna fire 306 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: Jeff Saturday after this one. But I think Jeff Saturday's 307 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: chances of keeping this job really h dissipated around the 308 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: fourth quarter of that Vikings Colts game and and tonight 309 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: did nothing to change it around. When we talk Chargers 310 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: a lot of times, it feels like it's justin Herbert Nation, 311 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: of which I'm a card carrying member, like coming up 312 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: with reasons why people are holding him back in this 313 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: case Joe Lombardi And you can absolutely go scorched earth 314 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: on Joe Lombardi because you're not a beat writer in 315 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: this setting, Jordan's you're a podcaster, and we're totally irresponsible. 316 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: We answered to no one, We're beholden to no one. Well, 317 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: this is why I get to just like giggle delightedly 318 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: over some of the really epic Mark Sessler rants over 319 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: the years. Um, but you know from afar, it's like 320 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: different than basketball. It's it's true. You don't want to 321 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: get that's true market. You don't want to get too 322 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: close to the sun like Mark applies real close to 323 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: the sun does It's dangerous. It's dangerous sitting next to him. 324 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: But I I love him for that. But I noticed 325 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: on just my Twitter feed after the game, We're waiting 326 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: to start the show, and I had, you know, tweeted, 327 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: how is excited to see these possible playoff matchups? With Herbert, 328 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: and all the responses are about like Herbert essentially not 329 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: belonging in a matchup against Burrow or Alan or even 330 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. That like he's a ton of comments sense 331 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 1: like he's not even an above average quarterback. Did you 332 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 1: watch tonight's game? Like what are you talking about? Man? 333 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, like this game is a perfect example. 334 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: If you watch this game and you think that justin 335 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 1: Herbert's a bad quarterback, you're bad at watching football, like 336 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:35,479 Speaker 1: he right, You're you're bad at it. Like I'm not 337 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: saying that he was perfect in this game, but through 338 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: three quarters, next Gen Stat's had him as the most 339 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: pressured game of his entire career. I don't know how 340 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: that was in the fourth quarter or not. I didn't 341 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: look for the update, but on fifty of his dropbacks 342 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: he was pressured. And he sometimes looks like he's almost 343 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 1: a safe quarterback because he has a Drew Brees Tom 344 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: Brady like thing that if he's getting pressured, he gets 345 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: rid of the ball. Doesn't mean he can't improvise. He 346 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: does that sometimes too, but he's not gonna wait around forever. 347 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: He's going to get rid of the ball and that's 348 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: a good thing. And oh, by the way, when you 349 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: run like a flee flicker and your receivers not even 350 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: really open, he can throw it thirty yards on the 351 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: opposite hash without the ball ever, like going five ft 352 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: above the ground, and it's going a million miles an hour. 353 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 1: And he had a few of those places tonight, and 354 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,719 Speaker 1: he had the third downs that kept drives going. They 355 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: had two long touchdown drives and it wasn't perfect, but 356 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: to be under that much pressure, Like, people are crazy 357 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: if they don't think he's in that category. But I 358 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: guess people just have this thing in their mind that 359 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: you gotta win playoff games or else. They just don't 360 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: think of you that way. I don't know what it is. Yeah, 361 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: the the interception was like a tip, right, so that happens, Like, yeah, 362 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: I know he's he's thrown a couple of these last 363 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: few weeks, but like the interception was a tip that happens. 364 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: And then the fumble even I mean, oh my god, 365 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: he got sandwiched between two. All four guys had pressure 366 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: on that play drawing out. Yeah. Literally I checked the 367 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: next gen. I checked next gend because that never happens. 368 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: All four guys one because we we were kind of 369 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: seeing on our Channel five broadcast shout out to all 370 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: the UK viewers that like, oh, why didn't he let 371 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: go of the ball? There was someone open, And then 372 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: you look and all four guys in front of him 373 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: are losing their stat You're gonna accidentally what are you 374 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: gonna do? All your alignment are now free, right, so 375 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? You're actually only gonna like 376 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 1: dump the ball off to without seeing and it's oh, 377 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: it's alignment. And then you get you know, worst case stary, 378 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: but like it's, yeah, that was crazy to me. And 379 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: then so that makes it a little all the more compounded. 380 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: Why you know, then they're not moving the pocket around 381 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: and those types of things that could maybe alleviate some 382 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 1: of that or at least keep the the opposing defensive 383 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: line off balance a little bit. And then also, um, 384 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: you know, I understand though that it compounds because they're 385 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: also having some problems managing the downs because they're not 386 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: you know, they are not necessarily running the ball super effectively. Um, 387 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: you know, it's just it's a compounding of some of 388 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: these issues. And then Herbert, justin Herbert, I think when 389 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: I watch him play I think, um, you're never really 390 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 1: thinking you're out of a series regardless of what happens 391 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: on it, because of what he can do and the 392 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: throws that he can make. He's just incredible. And when 393 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: I go, you go back to the Sean Payton thing 394 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: you brought up, like, of course this dude's salivating over 395 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: you know anything the quarterback like that, right, like anyone 396 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: in the come be ther come be the offensive coordinator 397 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: for the Chargers. Sean, you know, if you want to 398 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 1: live in l A, they work under Brandon say directly, now, 399 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 1: I love it, spicyrectly. I I'm just saying that if 400 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: he wants the coach Justin Herbert and he wants to 401 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: stay in l A, like, uh, flip it up. I 402 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 1: know it would be awkward. Joe Lombardi used to be 403 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: on Sean Payton staff back in the day, so they 404 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: it all. It all connects. More awkward things have happened 405 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 1: in the NFL today, Greg Today love that is that 406 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: is absolutely true. Not but I think you're right. I mean, 407 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: you're absolutely correct. Like Justin Herbert is incredible and you 408 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: watch him do some of these things, even like I said, 409 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: in the most low probability situations like That's That's the 410 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: thing that I think people don't always factor in when 411 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: they're watching him, is some of the things he makes 412 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: happen in the lowest probability situation should not. He should 413 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: not be as consistently good at like a human should 414 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: not be as consistently good at making things happen in 415 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: low probability concepts. And yet he is doing that over 416 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: and over and over again. And I think one thing 417 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: that's different about him right now is that he has 418 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: Keenan Allen. He has Mike Williams, he has Joshua Palmer 419 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:37,239 Speaker 1: who has had a nice second season. He's healthier with 420 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 1: the ribs, their offensive line can get healthy er. Pipkins 421 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: believe it was back out there and they might get 422 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: rushons later back before the playoffs, which is kind of crazy. 423 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,719 Speaker 1: We actually might see him in Week eighteen. So this 424 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: Chargers team isn't perfect, but it is the best version 425 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: of the twenty any two Chargers team. Going into this season, 426 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: a lot of people thought, just rosterwise, they're there with 427 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: the top three or four teams in the a f C. 428 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: It's been a bumpy road to get there. They're gonna 429 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: have to play on the road. But I think they've 430 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: put themselves in the best position possible to matter and 431 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: and that's a big step. Congrats to the Chargers. I 432 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: always have a soft spot for the Chargers. I was 433 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: a big Philip Rivers fan and now I'm a Herbert 434 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: fan one to the next. You can't really root for 435 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: the Chargers, though, because the Rams. I know you don't. Yeah, 436 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 1: yeah you don't. You're not like you don't work for 437 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: the Rams. But the Rams are not happy with the 438 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: Chargers success. That's what I'm gonna say. Not the players 439 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: at the organization. This week is going to be fun 440 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: because the Rams are cooking a little bit. I didn't 441 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: even think about that They're playing this week Rams Chargers, 442 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: and there's and there's not going to be to me, 443 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: in my mind, there's not gonna be any like taking 444 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: snaps off or anything like that between either group just because, um, 445 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: it's just it's it's been uh since those practices like 446 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: that Brandon going against Shawn's offense. Um, it's been highly 447 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 1: competitive and it's that's good. Yeah. I like that the 448 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: Rams added a little juice to this putting up the 449 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: fifty Patty Crabby's and uh Baker playing well, and the 450 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 1: Chargers have something to play for. It's it's not the 451 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: biggest games in the world, but they finished with the 452 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 1: Rams and the Broncos, so they have a real chance 453 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: to finish with a five game winning streak, which if 454 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: nothing else, especially playing another to compromise offenses in a row, 455 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: can really put some wind in their sales. Could possibly 456 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: get them up to the five seed. They cannot be 457 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: the seven seed that is clinched. They are either the 458 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: five or the six, so they would have to pass 459 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 1: the Ravens to get to the five. That would be 460 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: a better spot I think for the first round because 461 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: you'd play at the a f C South winner. The 462 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: Jaguars would be favored to be that team right now, 463 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: but that will come down to Week eighteen, so they're 464 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: gonna try to get that seed. They're gonna try to 465 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 1: keep uh the good vibes going. Not much to say 466 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: about the Colts. I feel bad for everyone there. They've 467 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: been outscored in the fourth quarter under Jeff Saturday to nine, 468 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: and their defense is played great all year and I 469 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 1: was sad to see Nick Foles throw three picks like 470 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: this because it's quite possible. Jordan's and we'll move on quickly. 471 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: If you have any Colts thoughts, tell me them. But um, 472 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: it just occurred to me, like, man, Jeff Saturday might 473 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: be putting Nick Foles and Matt Ryan's careers to bed 474 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: in like the most depressing way possible. Yeah, he's like 475 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 1: getting too for one just swept aside. I mean it's 476 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: because I don't know. I don't know for sure if 477 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: we'll see another Ryan start. I would guess Folds will 478 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: start next week because he said he didn't consider bringing 479 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: in Sam Ellinger, And it's like, why I keep spinning 480 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: this wheel? But we'll see. Yeah. I like the Colts 481 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: defense a lot. Actually, I had I did have fun 482 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: watching that. Okay, give me a couple of give me. 483 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: I know you got something written down by them. They 484 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: are they are a great front line. Well, I just 485 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 1: liked the concept in the theory behind what they do. 486 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,959 Speaker 1: I think that like they kind of knew that. Again, 487 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: the Colts, excuse me that the Chargers we're gonna have 488 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: some trouble with their down management, and they sort of 489 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: keyed in on that with some of the coverage structures 490 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: they were playing, and um, they really capped you know, 491 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 1: I think justin Herbert of course, is incredible, and I think, 492 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: you know, there's some explosives and all of that, but 493 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: especially in some of the when the game was a 494 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: little bit tighter and there was just some uh, just 495 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: a little bit of cloudiness and a lot of um 496 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: kind of constricting downward out of that umbrella shell that 497 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: they that they like to really take away the outside 498 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: throws to Williams and he's so justin to Herbert's so 499 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: good at those, and um, those are such money downs 500 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: for them, and I think that um being able to, 501 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: like I said, keep those guys on the overhangs. Really, 502 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 1: I'm like gesturing wildly over here. Those guys on the 503 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 1: overhangs really disciplined and then they always constrict in word 504 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: and they'd always constrict down and I think that's that's 505 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: a really good way to play aggressively, even if you're 506 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: going to play in a shell. So that that, to me, 507 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 1: I thought was fun to watch. And I like them. 508 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I you know, I've always enjoyed watching stuff 509 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: on Gilmore Play and I like that, you know, I 510 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: like the Colts defense. I feel bad they are like 511 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: I'm just watching some sccifican sccifican effort every single time. Right, 512 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: there's a reason why they get crushed in the fourth quarter. 513 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: They wear out, And they really have been a I 514 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: was actually kind of making a mentalist during this game, 515 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: and I would have them like they'd they'd be like 516 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: the seventh best defense in the league. A nice little 517 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 1: comeback season for Gus Bradley, who's bounced around the last 518 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: couple of years, including with the Chargers. He might have 519 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: been their defensive coordinator the last time they made the playoffs. 520 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: To bring it all around, I could go check time 521 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: as a flat circle, but but I think I could 522 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: pressure too. They did. They got pressure in a lot 523 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 1: of different ways. They got like like they totally just 524 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: brushed past the you know, whatever the charge you're doing 525 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: to try to set those protections, and um, you know, 526 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: like I said, stayed really disciplined on the back end, 527 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 1: and I just it was I thought it was a 528 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: good game plan. It's too bad they can score on 529 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: the other side. And and by the way, Gus was 530 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 1: that defensive coordinator. Offensive coordinator was Ken Wizzen Hunt, oh 531 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: my god, and the coach was Anthony Linley won twelve 532 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: games that year. They beat the Ravens in the playoffs, 533 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,239 Speaker 1: and then they gave up a forty burger in the 534 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: divisional round to the Patriots. And yet everyone says that 535 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,479 Speaker 1: Tom Brady was carried to that super Bowl because they 536 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: only remember the super Bowl. And yet he put a 537 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: forty burger on the Chargers and outdueled Mahomes in the 538 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: a f C Championship. He wasn't carried anywhere, all right. 539 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: That's uh, that's enough. Do you think that your co 540 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: workers are gonna start like putting a jar out for 541 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: every time you bring up the Patriots during a podcast. 542 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 1: It's not about the Patriots. I don't think i'd do that. 543 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: I like to remember the good times, though I know 544 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: it's it's fine you're working through some stuff. Like I'm 545 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 1: here for you. I totally get it, like I empathize 546 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: you're just worked through your feelings. Man, I mean, I 547 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: don't even like watching them anymore. It's just I don't. Uh. 548 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: You said, by the way that the show's lately, you 549 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: said this off air, you you thought they were getting 550 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: like spicier. Maybe I just I like the bits, like 551 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: I like the lock Father bit, like laughed deliriously every 552 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: single time, and like I think it's hilarious and then 553 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: you could because I listened to it. I don't want 554 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: I love the YouTube concept, but I just I love 555 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: listening on the go, but I um, I love listening 556 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: to it, and I like, I I can picture you 557 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 1: guys as Dan gets going. I can just picture you 558 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: guys sitting there just staring at and kind of like 559 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: letting out those likeose like si laughs every once in 560 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: a while. I know it's just so good. And Colleen's 561 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: a I generated Hallmark episode was fantastic. I mean, I 562 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: like stopping. I've become a podcast host that asked the 563 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: guests to complement us. This is horrendous. To that point, 564 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,959 Speaker 1: I listened to an old clip of our last Christmas 565 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: Eve show and we we played a couple with with 566 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: our friend Chris Westling and I'm in the Chris Westling 567 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: podcast studio, and and the thing that I got listening 568 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: to that was we miss everything about west But man, 569 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: I miss his laugh to those bits. You know what 570 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: I mean? Because I listened to a couple and Dan 571 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: had some jokes there and just his laugh. I know 572 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: Dan misses that part of it too. It just added 573 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: uh so much to the show. Instead, I'm looking at 574 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: Dan like side I during that well as a listener 575 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: to I mean West, when he would laugh, like you 576 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: felt like you were there. That's the kind of laugh 577 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: that he had, where like I said, I'm always listening, 578 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: I'm never watching it, and so that whenever he would laugh, 579 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: you would just feel like you're sitting in the room 580 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: and like watching everyone react because you can literally hear 581 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: it in his lab and encompassed it encompassed not just 582 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: what the person who made the joke was saying, but 583 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: also the reactions of everybody else to that joke. That's 584 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: really well said in all time laugh. We're gonna go 585 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: through my top six list quickly. Here. It's a simple one. 586 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: We're getting to the end of the season. You can 587 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: actually vote on the m v P Top five this year. 588 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: I've been pushing for that forever and it happened. I'm 589 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: not gonna say I contributed to this happening, but I'm 590 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: not gonna say it had no impact. You never know 591 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: how I why I would say that. So it's a 592 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: list of five. I'm considering six right now for my list. 593 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: I am struggling with four through six. Help me sort 594 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: these guys. This is my fourth through six no order, 595 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, Tyreek killed Josh Allen. That's my fourth through six, 596 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: oh man, because I feel like with Burrow, you're gonna 597 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: want like a lot will factor into these next couple 598 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: of games. They're playing each other this week. With Tyreeke 599 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: even I know he's not a quarterback, but in there, 600 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: I like that you have them in there though, because 601 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: I so I think like overall, i'd probably go, oh, 602 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: that's really tough. Oh my gosh. Anyway I slice it, 603 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: someone's gonna yell at me. It's fine, I accept it. 604 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: But I feel like Tyreek in terms of you know, 605 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: I feel like you're gonna go Josh Allen, Tyreeke, Joe Burrow. 606 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: It's nothing against jo. It's nothing against Joe Burrow at all. 607 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: I think he's outstanding, Like I think he's so special. 608 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: But um, I think that if you're looking at sort 609 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: of like the season as a whole, and you're also 610 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: looking at um, I like to shake it up. I 611 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: like the idea of receivers who are at that level 612 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: of playmaker. Um, justin Jefferson, I think being one of 613 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: them too. I like the idea of receivers being included 614 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: in these lists and these votes especially, um, you know 615 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: how they have elevated everybody around them. That's the definitely 616 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: change they changed this season. Did those two trades Tyreek 617 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: and A J. Brown exactly? And And what what I 618 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: think is so interesting too, when you're looking at and 619 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: A J. Brown, you're looking at Justin Jefferson, You're looking 620 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: at Tyreek Hill. When you have a player at a 621 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: skill position like that that is that tier sort of 622 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: at you know that they're they're mean, is elite, and 623 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,479 Speaker 1: on a good day, they can become sort of like 624 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: this transcendent presence on a field. Like you can build 625 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: so much of your roster and factor in how you 626 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,959 Speaker 1: build your roster and the resources you put in and 627 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: even the way that you draft and develop complementary players 628 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: around talent like that. You can change your entire team 629 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: building model in your ecosystem around players like that if 630 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: you can keep them long enough and you can keep 631 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: them healthy and paid. And that's what the Rams did 632 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: for so long with Aaron Donald and Jalen Ramsey, and 633 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,959 Speaker 1: it helped open up like literally the entire rest of 634 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: what their ecosystem became that led to that Super Bowl win. 635 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: And I think that that's a trend. That's what you 636 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: can do with players who are maybe at skill positions, 637 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: but they so transcend um on on their on their 638 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: good days and on average their elite. And I think 639 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: that's that's really important at that skill position. I mean, 640 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: I don't think it's at running back. Noe's changed the 641 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: the NFL has changed. I do this wide receiver the 642 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: free agent list every year, and they used to always 643 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: be great receivers on it. There's none this year because 644 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: everyone's resigned. They're not letting anyone get out there. Juju 645 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: and Jacoby Myers and Beckham are the best wide receivers 646 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: and it's a pretty big drop after that. There used 647 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: to be teams understand that wide receivers have been undervalued 648 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: for a while, and now they're getting paid and everyone 649 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: like got their laughs and about Christian Kirk making seventeen 650 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: eighteen a year, that deal looks great. I think that 651 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,719 Speaker 1: that that's fine. If you can have a fifteen million, 652 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,719 Speaker 1: eighteen million dollar receiver that's playing eight hundred good staffs 653 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: for you, like that's what it's gonna cost now, and 654 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: everyone wants three of those guys, and uh yeah, I 655 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: right now I would probably go Tyreek six. I really 656 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: struggle between those other two. Josh Allen's running is so good. 657 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: He's actually averaging he's averaging more yards per carry than 658 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: last year, and he led the league last year. Like 659 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: his percentage of runs that are first downs is insane. 660 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: He's got to set a career high in rushing yards. 661 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: He's only you know, two under something yards behind uh 662 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: Lamar and Hurts, or at least Hurts. It was over 663 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: a thousand now, so it's like it's tough. Burrow's been 664 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 1: made less mistakes though right now I might give Burrow four, 665 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Jefferson number three on my list, justin Jefferson 666 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,959 Speaker 1: number two. Jalen Hurts, not not ruling him out, although 667 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: he's been to my whole season and now he's missed 668 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: one game. If he misses two, that's probably it. That 669 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 1: to me, that's a big chunk of the season. He 670 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: might be back this week though, and then Mahomes one. 671 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: Hurts would have to do a lot over the next 672 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: two weeks, and Mahomes would probably have to stumble a 673 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 1: little bit, certainly lose one of these games or would 674 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,479 Speaker 1: be responsible for a bad performance. So that that's my list. 675 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: I'm feeling good about it right now, and I think 676 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: Jefferson feels at the worst is gonna be in my 677 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: top five at the end of the season and get 678 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: some votes here. Yeah, Like I said, I like that, 679 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,959 Speaker 1: like more players can get votes, and I like that 680 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,439 Speaker 1: that's how things are structured. Thank you so much for 681 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: doing that for all of us football fans, GRAG really 682 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: really appreciate your you being the catalyst for that movement 683 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: in a league that is so slow to change. Um. 684 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 1: And I really think that well. And I don't know 685 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: if you've seen the pins we've been wearing lately, probably not, 686 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,760 Speaker 1: but they say inspired change, and that was that's really 687 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: what I've done. That's your contribution. Wow, that's really impactful. UM. 688 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 1: So I think I totally agree with your list. And 689 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: I think I really liked this conversation that was sort 690 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: of happening on the internet like over the last couple 691 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 1: of weeks about have we psychologically normalized Pat Mahomes And 692 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,800 Speaker 1: I think that's such a fun thing to think about 693 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: because he's just so consistently elite, Um, you know, have 694 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: our brains sort of just like sort of um almost 695 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: like Scar tissued over that impact layer that he always 696 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: as that created. But and I I'm just saying I 697 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 1: appreciate it every time I see it, but it's but 698 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 1: as a society have we They're the best offense in 699 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: the league. It was one thing when the Dolphins were 700 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,280 Speaker 1: competitive with them, but they are easily the best offense 701 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 1: in the league efficiency wise. Obviously they don't have Tyreek 702 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,800 Speaker 1: Hill this year. It's because of my homes. It's always 703 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 1: because of the homes. That's why they could get those 704 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: draft picks to help the rest of their team. And 705 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: he is playing outstanding making it all work. He's my 706 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: m v p Uh. You're one of the big m 707 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,399 Speaker 1: v p s of the Monday Night season. We've only 708 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: got one more. Nick Westling is gonna be my guest 709 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: on the finale. Bengals Bill's best Monday Night game of 710 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: the season is the last one, so I'm excited for that. 711 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 1: I was excited to have you, Jordan, thank you, thanks 712 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: for coming on. And yeah, enjoy Chargers Rams. Thanks so 713 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,800 Speaker 1: much for having me. That will be a blast. Perhaps 714 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 1: not as fun as Bengals Bills, but that will be 715 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: a blast. And I always love coming on the show 716 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: talking to you about football, Greg, so we will do 717 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,320 Speaker 1: it again. Not just on the Rams. UH, and until 718 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 1: tomorrow when we'll talk about all sorts of teams, probably 719 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: not the Rams. We've got a guest in the studio, 720 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: Andrew Hawkins UH, former Brown, My former co host on 721 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,760 Speaker 1: Game Debut, UH is gonna join us on the show. 722 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about our our favorite playoff matchups. It's 723 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:28,879 Speaker 1: been a crazy week until Tuesday. Heed the Car