Speaker 1: Let's say what's up. It's lip Service and we really
Speaker 1: do have a special guest today and I'm excited for this.
Speaker 1: It's yes, I'm Angela Yee, I'm g. G Maguire, I'm
Speaker 1: Stephanie Santiago, I'm and Chelsea Handler is here. Chelsea. Everybody
Speaker 1: says their name. You know what's funny. A funny Chelsea
Speaker 1: story is when with my career in radio, right, I
Speaker 1: remember this guy was telling me he was in the industry,
Speaker 1: and he said, Angela, you gotta start thinking about your
Speaker 1: career and not being so raunchy. He was like, because
Speaker 1: what are you going to transition into? I said, well,
Speaker 1: do you know what I want to do? I said,
Speaker 1: I'd rather fashion myself after Chelsea Handler. No offense to
Speaker 1: Oprah because I love Oprah, but me and her are
Speaker 1: just not anything like Like I have a show called
Speaker 1: lip Service. I've already talked about sex and relationships and
Speaker 1: all kinds of things, a whole lot that there's no
Speaker 1: going on. We've talked about. It's not talking about anal
Speaker 1: and I'm here to talk about that. We didn't get
Speaker 1: her that butt plug. Do you have any have you
Speaker 1: ever used at plug? I have not used a butt plug.
Speaker 1: I woke up with a butt plug in me this morning.
Speaker 1: I woke up like this. I did wake up like that. Well,
Speaker 1: good for you, good for you, and you just made
Speaker 1: me a perfect drink, so obviously things are working for you.
Speaker 1: That is a talent. Because actually gave me some butt
Speaker 1: plugs and it was a variety of sizes, and she
Speaker 1: was like, here, this is good for beginners. So I
Speaker 1: tried to use the beginner one and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is small. I probably could just put it right
Speaker 1: up there. It didn't work. It didn't. Yeah, there's that's
Speaker 1: good to have things for beginners, intermediates and experts, for
Speaker 1: all devices, you know what I mean, everybody's got something
Speaker 1: different going on. How did you have any without a
Speaker 1: butt plug? I don't don't. I haven't had a lot
Speaker 1: of anal to be honest with you. I mean, I
Speaker 1: haven't found somebody who's really into that, so I have
Speaker 1: to wait until i've done that. Sorry to disappoint you, guys,
Speaker 1: really sorry, Yeah, because I feel like that. Think go
Speaker 1: all way about it? Do you love it? I've done
Speaker 1: it once or twice. It's not a thing that I've
Speaker 1: done multiple times. Tell me, fill me in it. Literally,
Speaker 1: then it feels really good, better than vaginal sex. No, right,
Speaker 1: but it does. But it's a nice change of pace. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's good when you're in your period. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: would guess, yeah, that makes sense. Just touch the touch
Speaker 1: the string already. Okay, now let's talk about them your documentary. Hello, privilege.
Speaker 1: It's me Chelsea, And what made you decide to do
Speaker 1: this documentary because we had a nice discussion before you
Speaker 1: came in about white privilege. Yes, uh, well, I think
Speaker 1: the election was a real turning point for me. I
Speaker 1: know it was because I just couldn't believe that this
Speaker 1: baboon was fucking elected. I couldn't fucking believe it. So
Speaker 1: I went into therapy because I was acting like a
Speaker 1: spoiled rat in reaction to his election. And I realized
Speaker 1: that this was the first time I remember getting into
Speaker 1: my driver's car, my driver's black I got into his
Speaker 1: driver's car at the end of the election. That night,
Speaker 1: I was at my best friend Mary McCormick's house, and
Speaker 1: I got the car and I was crying and I
Speaker 1: was I just go, I can't believe this man as
Speaker 1: the president. I can't believe it. And I said Billy,
Speaker 1: what do you He's been my driver for years, he's
Speaker 1: like part of my family. I said, Billy, what do
Speaker 1: you what do you think? And he said, I We're done.
Speaker 1: This is your problem now. You know, black people are
Speaker 1: done fighting like I'm done. He you know, he wasn't
Speaker 1: speaking for all black people, obviously, but and it hit
Speaker 1: me like, oh my god, how do people of color
Speaker 1: like I'm this upset and I'm upset about my just
Speaker 1: about the way that he was talking and everything. And
Speaker 1: I realized like it was the first time in my
Speaker 1: adult life that things became or felt unhinged. Nothing has
Speaker 1: ever not gone my way right. And it made me
Speaker 1: get out of my own asshole and go, wholl whoa, whoa,
Speaker 1: I've had this is the most upsetting thing that's happened
Speaker 1: in my adult life. What the hell are other people dealing?
Speaker 1: It's just a series of upsetting things that have led
Speaker 1: to that. I was in Atlanta, and I was at
Speaker 1: the when it was a mandament Oriental and is why
Speaker 1: woman comes at to me. I don't know her. She
Speaker 1: was drunk, drinking by herself. She told me she had
Speaker 1: gotten the fight with her husband and left the house.
Speaker 1: And she goes to me, what's up with this black
Speaker 1: Lives matter thing? She comes over to me just to
Speaker 1: ask me that. She was like, yes, She's like and
Speaker 1: I think sometimes people feel like they could just see
Speaker 1: a black person, let me just ask them. I'm drunk,
Speaker 1: I want to know, and some trying to explain, like,
Speaker 1: black lives matter, and it doesn't mean that your life
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. But we've been through so much and we
Speaker 1: have to do that because people treat us like our
Speaker 1: lives don't matter. And I'm trying to explain it to
Speaker 1: her and she's really not getting it, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: why am I sitting here trying to explain? And that's frustrating. Well,
Speaker 1: it's also the center the black lives matter, the fact
Speaker 1: that there has to be a movement to remind everybody
Speaker 1: else that black lives matter. That's that's the conversation in itself, right,
Speaker 1: you know. So I think people think a lot of
Speaker 1: white people think, oh, well, why am I being blamed
Speaker 1: for you know, society. That's unjust or unfair. It wasn't
Speaker 1: my I wasn't here, those were my ancestor, which is
Speaker 1: one of the grossest things to say. It's like, this
Speaker 1: has been going on for generations. Slavery lasted for longer
Speaker 1: than we've not had slaves. We had slaves longer than
Speaker 1: we haven't had slaves. So for every white person that
Speaker 1: says I wasn't there, it's like that is so gross,
Speaker 1: and it's it's also a defense mechanism because I've noticed
Speaker 1: most white people don't want to talk about the subject
Speaker 1: matter because if they admit there is privilege, then it's
Speaker 1: something that they have to give away. You had some
Speaker 1: white women conservatives that didn't really believe that there is
Speaker 1: white privilege. Yes, never from Orange County. And when I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. When I saw that part of the
Speaker 1: documentary and made it a little hard to watch for me,
Speaker 1: I think, like, you know, I I was enjoying it,
Speaker 1: and then when I got to that part, I like,
Speaker 1: are they serious? And then even one woman even said, well,
Speaker 1: I see I see the privileges and that, and then
Speaker 1: one of her friends said, so you do see the
Speaker 1: white press. She said no, I think I see the
Speaker 1: black privilege or like their privilege, and I was like,
Speaker 1: slow down, is this a joe? Like I was really
Speaker 1: love they're pist people are like not like that because
Speaker 1: I would like to continue a dialogue with those women.
Speaker 1: You know, I went to therapy for a long time
Speaker 1: to understand how to talk to people instead of yelling
Speaker 1: at them, because that's what I did for a career
Speaker 1: for so long and it worked for me. But I
Speaker 1: wanted to be able to sit down and have conversations
Speaker 1: where I could actually listen to other people and try
Speaker 1: to have and be respectful of their space so that
Speaker 1: there is room to grow. Sometimes it's hard, it is
Speaker 1: soon I am like, you know, I like a conversation,
Speaker 1: I like an argument. I'm all about it, like head
Speaker 1: first into conflict. But so for me, my exercise was
Speaker 1: letting people state their opinions because there's gonna be so
Speaker 1: many white women that watch that documentary that see those
Speaker 1: four white women and think I'm nothing like those women, right,
Speaker 1: And they thought, by the way, yeah that's funny. White
Speaker 1: women like, no, I don't, but yeah, like I'm only
Speaker 1: doing anal I'm talking about looked like he might tear
Speaker 1: that s up. Yeah he seems Yeah, he seemed even
Speaker 1: more like that the last time I saw him, which
Speaker 1: was as you know, recently, Like you think his dick
Speaker 1: grew from back then. I don't know what happens with
Speaker 1: pisa grow while you're in jail, or if a shrink
Speaker 1: who knows you guys tug their penis to let it
Speaker 1: gets bigger. I don't think it gets bigger. I think
Speaker 1: it changes the shapeship the penis. Really, yes, like you
Speaker 1: can sell when a guy masterbase a lot, or if
Speaker 1: he doesn't masturbate at all. Really, I feel like that.
Speaker 1: I feel like sometimes I have been with guys who
Speaker 1: I felt like their penis got bigger over time. Well
Speaker 1: maybe they just became more attracted to you over time. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: I think when guys get really turned on, their penises
Speaker 1: do get bigger than normal, right, like when they're really
Speaker 1: turned on and like, wait, you could be having sex
Speaker 1: with somebody for like a two years and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden you're like, what's going on down there? Atlita
Speaker 1: in two or maybe they just manscaped and it looks big. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that. I don't think from pulling it it'll
Speaker 1: get a different change if as if a goot, eventually
Speaker 1: you're going to shave it off. YEA, guys in the room,
Speaker 1: it's like wearing a waist trainer to make your waist
Speaker 1: right exactly assume if everybody but you gotta way that
Speaker 1: all wear that all the time, because if you're not
Speaker 1: wearing a waist train and the waist is just not training.
Speaker 1: But imagine masturbating feels really good, so a guy is
Speaker 1: gonna do it a lot. So if he's tugging it
Speaker 1: to the side, it's gonna eventually curve to the side.
Speaker 1: Do you have imagine imagine a guy was wearing a
Speaker 1: wiste trainer and masterbase to Now, do you think that
Speaker 1: white women have sex privileges to There's a lot of
Speaker 1: privilege that goes with the color of your skin, you know,
Speaker 1: So yes, I would say that, But I mean that's
Speaker 1: an uneducated answer because I'm not I don't haven't had
Speaker 1: enough time to think about that. But yeah, I think
Speaker 1: I think there's just a lot that comes with being
Speaker 1: white that if you're not. If you are white, why
Speaker 1: do you think about it? You don't have a reason
Speaker 1: to think about it unless you're starting to really, like,
Speaker 1: you know, be conscious about it. I grew up in
Speaker 1: a white neighborhood with a lot of white friends and
Speaker 1: I and then I moved to l A and I
Speaker 1: moved to Santa Monica, and then I moved to Brentwood
Speaker 1: and now I live in bel Air. So even though
Speaker 1: I thought I was woke, which I fucking wasn't because
Speaker 1: I've self segregated, you know what I mean. We all
Speaker 1: do things in an unconscious way that we're not aware of.
Speaker 1: And I have the luxury and license because I've can
Speaker 1: take time off and do the projects that I want
Speaker 1: to do. I know that I'm not everybody is in
Speaker 1: the same position, but we're all in a position in
Speaker 1: our lives to think a little bit more about what
Speaker 1: it's like to be someone other than yourself. Because I
Speaker 1: think even as doing this podcast right, as women of
Speaker 1: color doing a podcast about sex, we get so much judgment.
Speaker 1: I was surprised when I was reading about your podcast
Speaker 1: that you guys were doing this. I really was, because
Speaker 1: you still can't even talk about sex, right, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess the podcast is really the only
Speaker 1: format to do it, or a book. I had a
Speaker 1: show on Serious is where it started, right, and so
Speaker 1: lips Ever started off. It's a nighttime show on Serious
Speaker 1: and it was the first thing like that right where
Speaker 1: we had black women talking about sex, talking about our sexuality.
Speaker 1: But when I tell you, when this first started, and
Speaker 1: I think it's getting better now, but people were like, oh,
Speaker 1: a bunch of horrors sitting around the hole. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: couldn't take it. It was driving me crazy after a while,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, why is it so taboo for us
Speaker 1: to talk about sex? And I don't know, and people
Speaker 1: have said this to me. I don't think that white
Speaker 1: women would have had as big as they wouldn't have
Speaker 1: had as big an issue if it was white women
Speaker 1: as they do when it's black women. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's our community or whatever. That kind of
Speaker 1: looked down on that at first, but I did get
Speaker 1: a lot of criticism for it, and it's like the
Speaker 1: conversation is still intelligent and it's something that's necessary. There's
Speaker 1: so many people that don't have anyone to talk to
Speaker 1: when they want to talk about sex. They want to
Speaker 1: talk about different experiences, Like we had a dominatrix on
Speaker 1: the show a couple of times, and that's fascinating to me.
Speaker 1: I was talking to some one yesterday about her experience
Speaker 1: as a dominatrix and she was explaining it to me,
Speaker 1: and it seems like not a bad ideal, Like if
Speaker 1: you want to make some extra cash, oh, just because
Speaker 1: don't have sex, right, you're not supposed to have sex
Speaker 1: with yourself. Just beat the ship out of a guy
Speaker 1: right in a sexual way and yell at him. Actually,
Speaker 1: it's a great exercise for a lot of women are
Speaker 1: probably and degrade him. Yeah, and they get off on it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Have you ever done anything strange like that? I remember
Speaker 1: doing a documentary and we visited this like S and
Speaker 1: M you know, kind of couple, I guess, and they
Speaker 1: were explaining to us, like, you know, the domineering like
Speaker 1: all of the things that happened, and I just was
Speaker 1: so it's like swinging like I'm not into that ship.
Speaker 1: Like I get it if you are, and I totally
Speaker 1: I mean I don't really get it, but I you know, yes,
Speaker 1: do whatever when anybody wants, But but I'm not going
Speaker 1: down that road. And yeah, I mean it's nice to
Speaker 1: have like a little fun in bed, but I'm not
Speaker 1: down with all the stuff. I'm actually like way more
Speaker 1: conservative than anyone would imagine. Like, you know, at this point,
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get some sex, just some basic
Speaker 1: shi you know what I mean. I don't need to
Speaker 1: like get yeah, I don't need to get caught up
Speaker 1: in anything else? Do you have to think about whether
Speaker 1: and not people will know you? Like I mean, they
Speaker 1: know you, but like are they going to talk about it?
Speaker 1: I can't just go out and meet somebody. You don't care? Now,
Speaker 1: I don't care. I'm on ryam on Tinder, Like I
Speaker 1: don't care if you tell anybody that you had sex
Speaker 1: with me. I'm trying to I would love for that
Speaker 1: to be true. Let's go up sex. Do you care
Speaker 1: if they say it's good or not. I don't care
Speaker 1: about that either. Like I had sex with Chesse. It
Speaker 1: is terrible. Yeah, that was aay be embarrassing, but I
Speaker 1: could get past up. What about you ladies? And no?
Speaker 1: Do you think about that? Like Jez, you're newly single,
Speaker 1: yes I am. Are you having sex already? Yes? I am?
Speaker 1: I have enough. I told you I look up with
Speaker 1: a butt plug. I know, but I don't know what
Speaker 1: you're up to on your own looking by my phone.
Speaker 1: Does anybody master being with butt plugs? Is that a
Speaker 1: good feeling? Maybe I haven't. It's a training thing. I
Speaker 1: hadn't masturbated with the butt plug, but the butt plug
Speaker 1: last night was just more of me like being like
Speaker 1: a freak for this guy, and then you surprised him
Speaker 1: with it, like he had no idea and until he
Speaker 1: plupped me over to go head from the back and
Speaker 1: it was like a pink. It was like the what
Speaker 1: is that? And I was like it just itels like
Speaker 1: you're like and so then did you take out the
Speaker 1: butt plug? I know it stated in throughout the whole
Speaker 1: situation that I passed out. I actually tapped out, excuse me,
Speaker 1: and fell asleep. And when I woke up this morning,
Speaker 1: the plug was still in. I was like, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: it's still there. So he didn't fire, obviously not didn't.
Speaker 1: It's also a great way if you put a plug in,
Speaker 1: it's a great way to tell somebody like no entry
Speaker 1: here if you're not into It's like a cork stopper.
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, there's already something. This base is taken
Speaker 1: around the corner. He's taken. Did nobody mastered based by
Speaker 1: like shoving their fingering there? But right? No? No, maybe
Speaker 1: a guy because you know, okay, that's where their prosing is.
Speaker 1: But I still jerk off, you know. But women, and
Speaker 1: I don't know a woman that has ever said that
Speaker 1: they masturbate with their butthole because it's like a certain
Speaker 1: point you have to reach to even like fail the
Speaker 1: pleasure anyway, right, So you're not gonna get there with
Speaker 1: all the way up there by yourself with your fingers.
Speaker 1: Let you see her nails. You can still get it
Speaker 1: up there. This is my what I don't understand about
Speaker 1: the nail situation these days because women's nails are so long.
Speaker 1: I get it's in, but how do you fool around
Speaker 1: with a guy with those nails? So what do you
Speaker 1: mean like if I'm like, well, if you're in, if
Speaker 1: you're around your own vagina or his penis, Like, what
Speaker 1: I mean, don't you have to like think about your nails.
Speaker 1: I think you just gotta be more gentle. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna like sinse. I've been getting these like Savorsky crystals.
Speaker 1: I haven't tried to because these will come off and
Speaker 1: you don't want to sing. I used to get my
Speaker 1: nails done like that, and I used to get all
Speaker 1: kinds of ship drinking like five years ago, and every
Speaker 1: guy I hated them, single one. They'd be like, oh,
Speaker 1: I to thing about, Yeah, that's what they're adding the
Speaker 1: want the thing? Anybody, No, not to day, But why
Speaker 1: did I think of that and paint that Neil Brown
Speaker 1: just don't want to talk. That crosses I no longer
Speaker 1: feel comfortable. What about you though? Do you think about
Speaker 1: like who you date or sleep with and if he's
Speaker 1: going to talk um, Yeah, but I feel like one
Speaker 1: thing that like if I'm dating somebody or I take
Speaker 1: it that far, I want him to respect me enough
Speaker 1: to the fact that he's not running around saying stuff
Speaker 1: about me, especially in this like we're grown. So if
Speaker 1: you're doing that, that's the kind of guy that I
Speaker 1: don't want to be with. You know, we're around or anything,
Speaker 1: but character. That's a character trait. And if somebody's like that,
Speaker 1: it's like, exactly, you don't want to date a guy
Speaker 1: like that. No, it's disgusting. It's like if you have
Speaker 1: to go around being like, hey, let me tell you
Speaker 1: how this was I grow up? You know the service
Speaker 1: I hit that um brag about their sexual explication by
Speaker 1: wor than we do like for sure, but if they
Speaker 1: really really message you, I mean, yeah, they're gonna say
Speaker 1: whatever about you. But it's certain things after the fact,
Speaker 1: like once it's over, then it's like, yeah, I had her.
Speaker 1: That's a character like some people, some guys don't do that,
Speaker 1: and some guys do. Some guys actually really respect women.
Speaker 1: That their self esteem from advertising every woman that they've
Speaker 1: slept with, you know, and that's that's a nice quality.
Speaker 1: And a man. I actually had a conversation with my
Speaker 1: co host um on my morning show, and he said
Speaker 1: that if there was a girl that he knew dealt
Speaker 1: with a guy he knew, he would ask him how
Speaker 1: was she in bed? And I felt like that's weird.
Speaker 1: Not only where, but it's like where are you in
Speaker 1: your mind that you feel like, hey, so how is
Speaker 1: And he said he would ask how is the head
Speaker 1: thinking with his penis? But I just think that's crazy
Speaker 1: to me, like that if you disrespect, disrespects sometimes aren't
Speaker 1: too good with certain guys and not good with other guys.
Speaker 1: Like I might sex fantastically and then somebody else I
Speaker 1: might be like. And it also depends on the size
Speaker 1: of the dick, Like some digs it smaller and easier
Speaker 1: to set, and you're gonna go hamm on it, right,
Speaker 1: and you can really do every trick. I'm Jewish, so
Speaker 1: I just want to put it out there that I'm
Speaker 1: not good at blow jobs. Come on, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm really into somebody, I suppose I
Speaker 1: could get good at it, but like it's not a
Speaker 1: natural that's not a natural thing for me. I'd much
Speaker 1: rather have sex with somebody before that happens then give
Speaker 1: a blow job because they might be like no things.
Speaker 1: I just don't think. I don't think they're gonna be
Speaker 1: that impressed. Yeah, it also feels really intimate, more intimate
Speaker 1: than sex. Becauld you can get pregnant from sex. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to, so that feels better like and
Speaker 1: that's at least getting to know someone, Like a blowjob
Speaker 1: feels like something you really have to do, like like
Speaker 1: for me, it feels like I really have to be
Speaker 1: into somebody to want to put my mouth on their penis.
Speaker 1: I totally agree with you on that. I think Chelsea
Speaker 1: being a bag. I agree you ain't no bad head.
Speaker 1: What's going on out here? So I can teach me
Speaker 1: how to give a blood job? All right? Why do
Speaker 1: you guys get out here? That what you say? I
Speaker 1: don't remember. I have no idea. I don't remember what
Speaker 1: you said you were with me, that you're with me
Speaker 1: you'd rather have sex thing? Because I I told okay,
Speaker 1: thank you? Yes, yes, Um, I feel like giving a
Speaker 1: blow job is something very intimate. It's like I'm showing golf.
Speaker 1: I'm there, you're looking at me. It's it's it's way
Speaker 1: more intimate than just sex. Like you could turn around
Speaker 1: and be reading a book while somebody's sucking in front
Speaker 1: of That would be awful. Read Chelsey Handler's book Life
Speaker 1: would be the death of me while you're kind or
Speaker 1: a blow job I once I remember once in high
Speaker 1: school to give I think I tried, but it was
Speaker 1: probably my attempt to give my first blow job. And
Speaker 1: I remember the guy putting his hand on my head.
Speaker 1: And when I felt his hand on my head, I thought, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not down with Like, I'm not han with anybody
Speaker 1: putting their hand on my head. I don't like, you know,
Speaker 1: women don't do that to men. We're not like I
Speaker 1: mean if we don't, yeah, exactly. You gotta get to
Speaker 1: know somebody before they put your hand on their head,
Speaker 1: especially if they have receding hairline and they haven't shaved.
Speaker 1: Guys are very subconscious about their hair line. They don't
Speaker 1: have a fresh shave and you're on their head, They're like,
Speaker 1: whoa wait a minute, you gotta learn how to give
Speaker 1: a good blow job. All right, we'll teach me. I mean,
Speaker 1: you've got a microphone, okay, So look, I'm like, where
Speaker 1: do we start a bottle? Okay? This is what I think,
Speaker 1: or step to a good blow job is the anticipation
Speaker 1: of it. Right. If you're a lazy person and you
Speaker 1: don't want to have to go too long, you just
Speaker 1: have to tease before you actually do the blow job
Speaker 1: because that will make them come fast. Yeah, I about that, right,
Speaker 1: So you just kind of like lick around it. So
Speaker 1: they're like, oh my god, when is she gonna find
Speaker 1: any pair her mouth on my dick? And maybe she won't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's the anticipation because I think that they love that.
Speaker 1: So I would start off like that. G G, what's next? Um,
Speaker 1: I like to kiss the penis like pex you know,
Speaker 1: um make out. Yeah, Like I was just about to say,
Speaker 1: I like, I like to I really like giving head,
Speaker 1: and I think I'm really good at it. So I
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm a little different, but well, I like
Speaker 1: that you're enthusiastic. I didn't have the enthusiasm I do.
Speaker 1: I want to do it like you guys are both like, oh,
Speaker 1: this's hell. Of intimate and I would rather have sex.
Speaker 1: I would rather give it. No, I didn't say I
Speaker 1: would rather have sex. I just feel like it's more
Speaker 1: an intimate. You just can't sell every um. You can't
Speaker 1: suck everybody's sick you when you can't maybe with everybody everybody, however, um,
Speaker 1: you know a lot of spit helps um a lot
Speaker 1: of hand as if the further it gets down your throat,
Speaker 1: your makes your mouth wet, so then that's where the
Speaker 1: spit comes from. Feel like, please, don't right like a
Speaker 1: forgot the ball. You don't neglect the ball. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: carress them. If you're not even going to lick them
Speaker 1: or put them both in your mouth like I like
Speaker 1: to do, then you can just carress them and you know,
Speaker 1: just give them a little bit of a tickle. Massa.
Speaker 1: I think I'm such a savage these tips. Is. I
Speaker 1: don't do any of that, Like, I'm like, you know
Speaker 1: what the first thing is, the very first thing I
Speaker 1: do in them give a blow job is this? Yeah,
Speaker 1: me too, and I do the same thing. I do
Speaker 1: the same exact thing. That's the very first thing. I
Speaker 1: look like a like a cat. Yeah. The thing I
Speaker 1: have with both is that I think because my first
Speaker 1: experience was so so cemented and it felt so degrading
Speaker 1: that I have that like, it's just like it's disrespectful.
Speaker 1: It was disrespectful. It felt for a man put his
Speaker 1: hand on my head, and even at that young age,
Speaker 1: that imprint in your physical body actually stays with you
Speaker 1: much longer than you realize. So even intellectually, now that
Speaker 1: I know that was just one asshole, Like, I'm just like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, say the blow drugs for somebody who really
Speaker 1: deserves it. It's might be a good therapy discussion, and
Speaker 1: it's a good therapy. I'll bring it up with my therapy.
Speaker 1: And I felt like I learned how to that thing
Speaker 1: better because I had a guy that was like that.
Speaker 1: Like I was in a relationship with a guy that
Speaker 1: was more like, come on, he loved head. So it's
Speaker 1: like I had to do with so much that I
Speaker 1: got really good at it. But it would be for
Speaker 1: like an hour. My job would be like okay, no,
Speaker 1: that I was young, that's abusive to suck on anything.
Speaker 1: When I was young and I went I think I
Speaker 1: just liked him so much and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: make it happen. I hate when guys try to make
Speaker 1: you suck there, dick mad long and hold there. That
Speaker 1: was really doing that. That's something I could talk about
Speaker 1: on the subject of balls. I just remembered because I've
Speaker 1: been with I don't know, are you guys? Are you
Speaker 1: guys into white guys too? Have you been with a
Speaker 1: lot of white and black guys. I've never been with
Speaker 1: a white guy. You've never been with white guy. Theory
Speaker 1: white guys. I think in my experience, I will say
Speaker 1: that black men have tighter more um the tighter ball sacks.
Speaker 1: I agree with that. Even light skin like Spanish guys,
Speaker 1: they're a little looser, yes, yes, or something, so the
Speaker 1: melanin holes and testicles a little tighter. Just the same
Speaker 1: reason why black people age better, I guess because their
Speaker 1: skin is less elastic and they can keep it together more.
Speaker 1: But yeah, because balls are really tricky and it's nice
Speaker 1: to keep them in one area instead of having one
Speaker 1: slide around around. You know, I don't want that because
Speaker 1: they come around. I've never seen like a ball over
Speaker 1: there really some older white man and that's the grab
Speaker 1: that they get older. I think the balls dry. I
Speaker 1: don't think i'm balls in my day. I think people
Speaker 1: on long balls. You guys again, and it's like long
Speaker 1: balls don't go together. Long boobs are also not a compliment.
Speaker 1: I think you don't want balls that are long. I'd
Speaker 1: say that all the time. I don't like when they
Speaker 1: swing and it's like a penduluminary. I kind of like,
Speaker 1: I don't like. I don't think it's I'm growing guys
Speaker 1: maybe not want to get in. But with balls. I
Speaker 1: don't want balls, but the boss lap. I can't do
Speaker 1: the plug, but I could do the ball. What about
Speaker 1: wat you a second and you like the bulls snack
Speaker 1: and you want It's No, that's never happened to me.
Speaker 1: I can't think, has it? No, I don't. It's probably
Speaker 1: hard to suck long balls too. Are you supposed to
Speaker 1: suck balls? Yeah, well that's my I've never given a
Speaker 1: blow job. I'm not. I'm not sometimes something. It's not
Speaker 1: my thing. You want to know, maybe, but I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not putting a ball in my mouth that's tight,
Speaker 1: like he says atter that. I think it's uncomfortable. Like
Speaker 1: I'm not a big fan of having balls in my
Speaker 1: mouth either. There because you can't stop too long. I
Speaker 1: need to go to sandals seems like it's like we're
Speaker 1: getting I even know a woman like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: now how much this success and money matter? And a
Speaker 1: guy that you're dating, Now, does somebody have to have
Speaker 1: those things? Because you've been with some very successful men.
Speaker 1: So is it possible for Chelsea to date somebody that
Speaker 1: is just making it just scraping by? Well, there's a difference.
Speaker 1: I need somebody who. I mean, I've tried to dake
Speaker 1: guys who are just like scraping by and it ends
Speaker 1: up being kind of really uneven. I don't need somebody
Speaker 1: to be like, you know, wealthy or rich or anything
Speaker 1: like that. But I want somebody who as their shipped together.
Speaker 1: But also for intellectual reasons, I just don't want somebody
Speaker 1: who's struggling. I want somebody who's on the same page
Speaker 1: as me. You know, I'm in my forties now, forty four,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know we were joking, well not it's
Speaker 1: not a joke, but you know, everybody knows I dated
Speaker 1: fifty cent. And then in my documentary, my boyfriend Tie
Speaker 1: Sewn from high schools in it and I go I
Speaker 1: said to my friend, said, yesterday, she goes, You know,
Speaker 1: white guys are never ever because you think you're a
Speaker 1: trouble dating before, because white guys are never I'm gonna
Speaker 1: try to day you have the same thing. You're only
Speaker 1: like black dudes, And I'm like, no, I like white dudes,
Speaker 1: but they're fucking scared of me. So with a black eye.
Speaker 1: But I do get hit up by a lot more
Speaker 1: black eyes than I do. I know white guys ever
Speaker 1: ever approached me. Ever, I feel like it's like you
Speaker 1: opened the floodgates once the whole, like fifty cents anything,
Speaker 1: anybody that's near fifty cent and not scared in a
Speaker 1: way like so, I think from there they were like, yes,
Speaker 1: we're all able to like slide in her d m
Speaker 1: more than I don't think like they would even tried,
Speaker 1: Like even though you very cool, I think now you
Speaker 1: just crossed over into the black community as soon as
Speaker 1: fifty cent hit that. But they're not gonna like that.
Speaker 1: You don't. But I'm not like, I'm an egalitarian. I
Speaker 1: like white opportunities, an equal opportunity for everyone. What about
Speaker 1: Asian Hispanic? Uh, No, I haven't had sex with any
Speaker 1: Asian men Hispanic. Well a Spanish guy I've I've had
Speaker 1: sex with. Yeah, I've had sexcellence to Hispanic guys not guys.
Speaker 1: I think it was that one, but he was actually
Speaker 1: from Spain, so he literally he's literally Spanish. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean too whatever. I'm into a guy
Speaker 1: that knows what he wants. It isn't scared of my personality,
Speaker 1: Like it's not going anywhere. So if it's just me
Speaker 1: and I have to hang out by myself with my
Speaker 1: friends and my family, I'm also down with that. Like
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not. I like to have sex,
Speaker 1: but I don't need a companion, like I don't need
Speaker 1: a boyfriend. I would love to have that guy, but
Speaker 1: you know that may or may not happen. He seems
Speaker 1: like you'd be a fun girlfriend. I'm pretty fun, yeah,
Speaker 1: except that you don't suns that can affect our relationship.
Speaker 1: You know. He's like I can't be friends with because
Speaker 1: you also don't like to I mean a girlfriend to
Speaker 1: a guy like you know. Yeah, I've got a lot
Speaker 1: of guy friends. My guy friends all want to have
Speaker 1: sex with me, but they're all married, so that's okay.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, No, no, no, they all want to
Speaker 1: see you on your wife. No, no, we don't do it.
Speaker 1: But those are the kind of guys I want to date. Like,
Speaker 1: you know, my friends and husbands and boyfriends are the
Speaker 1: guys I'm closest to, and so I kind of get
Speaker 1: the best of both worlds because all my friends, boyfriends
Speaker 1: and husbands are always looking out for me and they're
Speaker 1: not my boyfriends. But you know, it's kind of sweet
Speaker 1: and I gets to hang out with my girls. I'm
Speaker 1: a third wheel a lot, I really am, or a
Speaker 1: fifth wheel depends sometimes there's more than one couple. One
Speaker 1: thing I saw you was with your friends. It's like,
Speaker 1: I bring this up all the time. I talk about
Speaker 1: it a lot because it was like one of the
Speaker 1: favorite things I've ever watched in my life, and it
Speaker 1: was one of your documentary And it was when you
Speaker 1: did Chelsea does Drugs and you you guys are at
Speaker 1: the table and that looked like a friend. When you
Speaker 1: did Hiowa, how you say Iowasca, Iowaka? Would you ever
Speaker 1: like recommend somebody else to do that? And would you
Speaker 1: do it again? I'm gonna do for so I'm going
Speaker 1: right now to meet Jenny after this. After I leave
Speaker 1: here today, I'm going to meet her for lunch. The
Speaker 1: girl in the documentary that was Chelsea does drugs um
Speaker 1: and yes, I would do it again. I just did
Speaker 1: a podcast about it last week with all of us
Speaker 1: who were in the episode, to talk about how we
Speaker 1: felt about it now that it's been four years and
Speaker 1: if we would do it again, And yeah, I would
Speaker 1: recommend it. You can't be on antidepressants. You can't be
Speaker 1: on you know, you have to really clean out your
Speaker 1: system and you have to find a good shaman. And
Speaker 1: I don't know how you do that, that's just instinct
Speaker 1: or you know, a referral. But people are doing it
Speaker 1: and people are having transformative experiences. But you have to
Speaker 1: really respect your own brain chemistry. Like I know that
Speaker 1: I take tons of drugs. I've always have. I like mushrooms.
Speaker 1: I like cannabis, and you like so if you like mushrooms,
Speaker 1: the closest thing. It's not giddy and happy like mushrooms,
Speaker 1: but it's it's this joyfulness that comes over you. It
Speaker 1: is overwhelming gratitude and love you feel. Either for me,
Speaker 1: it was my sister who's actually standing out there today, Shanna.
Speaker 1: She went down to the bathroom. She's probably scared to
Speaker 1: which about anal. She's like, what, Um, we don't know
Speaker 1: what but but it was an overwhelming feeling of just
Speaker 1: love and like gratefulness, and you looked at your life.
Speaker 1: I remember this scene. It plays like there's just these
Speaker 1: flashes of imagery and it's your whole life as a kid.
Speaker 1: Not your whole life, but scenes from your kid like
Speaker 1: that are real that you have in your brain somewhere
Speaker 1: that you've forgotten about. And dogs, like I remember seeing
Speaker 1: a dog from my childhood. I was like, oh, that's Mutley,
Speaker 1: and I realized, yeah, you had that dog. Like this
Speaker 1: doesn't make believe. All of the things you're seeing were scenes.
Speaker 1: And it was my sister and I running along the
Speaker 1: beach at our parents summer house and Martha's vineyard, um,
Speaker 1: you know, because we're white, and we were laughing and
Speaker 1: like tipping each other over in kayaks and we were
Speaker 1: holding hands, and I remember there was a scene where
Speaker 1: I was pulling her down by her hair and I
Speaker 1: was watching myself and I'm like, I'm I god, I
Speaker 1: was three years old. I'm like, you're already fucking bullying
Speaker 1: her when you were three years old, You're like, and
Speaker 1: you know, but it was all this like beautiful imagery,
Speaker 1: and it was for me what ended up happening with
Speaker 1: the ayahuasca was it was like this voice saying, your
Speaker 1: sister and you are different. You are not correct, She's
Speaker 1: not correct. Don't judge her because she wants to be,
Speaker 1: you know, a mom and a family person and wants
Speaker 1: to live in New Jersey. You need attention. She doesn't
Speaker 1: need your attention. And I was like, oh yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: the loser. I'm the one who's thirsty here. So it
Speaker 1: was a whole completely change of my understanding and empathy
Speaker 1: and compassion for her and understanding I my way isn't
Speaker 1: the right way. My way is my way and her
Speaker 1: way is her way. And I want to do Iowa
Speaker 1: and I can you guys come to l A because
Speaker 1: in Topanga they have like tons of when you do it,
Speaker 1: will come and do it totally do get it. We're
Speaker 1: going to be and we can record it. Am I
Speaker 1: going to be embarrassed by this recording? Yeah? Some people
Speaker 1: were crying streams. I definitely was crying, but I was
Speaker 1: crying like happy tears. I just kuldn't that's what it is.
Speaker 1: That's what ayahuaska feels like. But aauaska doesn't make you
Speaker 1: laugh like shrooms like, it's not fun and it's not social.
Speaker 1: You don't want to like hang out with me and
Speaker 1: talk to me about what you're going through. It's very solitary.
Speaker 1: When I was living in l A, I was I
Speaker 1: was planning. I was like, I want to do Ayahuaska
Speaker 1: and I want to tape and I want to film it.
Speaker 1: I want to see how how I do. And I
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to film it. I just want to go
Speaker 1: through and then if you don't like it, you can
Speaker 1: do like that. But because I'm actually I might do
Speaker 1: another one and film it if you guys do it
Speaker 1: or I do it, but we should stay in touch
Speaker 1: because I want if I do it, I want to
Speaker 1: bring a group with me that would would we should
Speaker 1: definitely do. The only thing I've done on there that
Speaker 1: you've done other than the normal stuff was the adderall
Speaker 1: to That was another thing that like he been bringing
Speaker 1: my interest. I mean not ada sorry ambient, because I've
Speaker 1: drank and took ambient and done things and not remembered.
Speaker 1: So when I've seen what you didn't, you was like
Speaker 1: drawing your brother and you know, and I looked at
Speaker 1: it and I could really like I'm like, wow, that's
Speaker 1: I stopped taking it after I watched that, well ambient
Speaker 1: is Yeah, you shouldn't stopped taking terrible, it's terrible. There's
Speaker 1: so many First of all, cannabis. Well, I know it's
Speaker 1: not legal here, but you guys can get it here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we always right now you need all you need to
Speaker 1: do is to go to bed down weed. I have
Speaker 1: a weadline coming out next year in February, and I'm
Speaker 1: very passionate about cannabis because it is a game changer,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe a lot less angry and a lot
Speaker 1: like more tolerant of other people. All right, we're with it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go do ayahuasca. I got it to stop, Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: just right. It starts with an A. Well, it's confusing,
Speaker 1: I believe me. I get it. It's like I mean,
Speaker 1: and I feel like I'm such a mess, Like I'm
Speaker 1: such an emotional mess. I feel like it would be
Speaker 1: so interesting. Yeah, it's take comes out on it because
Speaker 1: you know how you want to like what comes out.
Speaker 1: You don't forget anything, You remember every single thing. I
Speaker 1: just wrote my book, Like the Aahwaska chapter is a
Speaker 1: chapter in my book. And I didn't I didn't know
Speaker 1: it was all right there it's not one of those
Speaker 1: drugs where you don't remember. It's not like you remember
Speaker 1: every detail. And that's what's so profound about it. I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not because I don't really do a lot of guys.
Speaker 1: I did ecstasy a few times and it was nice
Speaker 1: until I had a bad experience and then I never
Speaker 1: did it again. Yeah, yeah, that's how take like, Okay,
Speaker 1: now I'm good. I love shrooms and I did from
Speaker 1: so many times last year. I've never I've never taken
Speaker 1: micro distinguish with shrooms, which is really helpful. Like I
Speaker 1: take them when I'm skiing, Like I take it. It's
Speaker 1: like a really it's literally micro docing. So it just
Speaker 1: goes like people with depression, people with PTSD. It starts
Speaker 1: to me, it's just like a more up, happy feeling
Speaker 1: throughout your day. You're like everything's a little bit more sparkly,
Speaker 1: but it's almost it's almost imperceptible, but it's not. If
Speaker 1: you're paying attention to you would do a little yeah,
Speaker 1: a little a little bit is good. Yeah, you should
Speaker 1: try micro dos sing. I would do that all right.
Speaker 1: Now let's talk about you had to take sexual harassment training. Well,
Speaker 1: I've had to take it several times. I've had to
Speaker 1: take it several times. They because I tried to bring
Speaker 1: everybody sex toys. But I figured, like they knew I
Speaker 1: have a sex show with the big deal. It's not
Speaker 1: like I was like, hey, I want to see you
Speaker 1: use this. It's like you guys want something. I mean,
Speaker 1: the sexual harassment training is so ridiculous because well it's necessary,
Speaker 1: but also ridiculous, like you have to they should just
Speaker 1: think a little bit more about the realisticness of like,
Speaker 1: you know, they What they said at the end was
Speaker 1: that we should all if you want to say hi
Speaker 1: to somebody you don't know what works that you should
Speaker 1: dab them like how you say hello and hi. Hugging way, Well,
Speaker 1: you're not really supposed to hug people. You know, ask
Speaker 1: if you can hug that, and and I hug you
Speaker 1: in high school and no public display of affection. We
Speaker 1: weren't allowed to hug in high school. That's the high
Speaker 1: school thing where you know, you hug where you know
Speaker 1: when the guy's like, hey, where's my house? There trying
Speaker 1: to fill your titties against their chest. We're trying to
Speaker 1: feel something else, something shouldn't have but yet don't fresh
Speaker 1: out the box now. But seriously, so Luria, I had
Speaker 1: to take it for giving out sex toys. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have got that was a problem me there because you know,
Speaker 1: I worked with a couple of guys and being Charlettagne
Speaker 1: and they're very inappropriate. Yeah right, so I feel like
Speaker 1: I could get them on something. This is your moment advantage.
Speaker 1: And he put um. He tried to embarrass me and
Speaker 1: put a sex toy in my luggage, my carry on. No,
Speaker 1: that's embarrassing. It wasn't. I didn't really know. He didn't
Speaker 1: put it on. He was about to put it on,
Speaker 1: so it was vibrating, put it in my luggage and
Speaker 1: I didn't even see it. Think go through security airports
Speaker 1: must see. So I'm sure the security saw the bubb plug.
Speaker 1: And because it was in my purse, I can't travel
Speaker 1: with sex to it. Probably I just started using sex
Speaker 1: to its like three weeks ago. They forced me, yes,
Speaker 1: when used a vibrate Yeah, I did not. I was like,
Speaker 1: I always looked at it like I'll just get dick
Speaker 1: or use my fingers because I just thought it was
Speaker 1: weird to like fun plastic or whatever. I know, I
Speaker 1: hear what you're yeah, but I chat it, and now
Speaker 1: I don't feel the same where you're using that one
Speaker 1: till that Wasn't it amazing? Tell me it's it's Fantastic'll
Speaker 1: get you one. You just put on a little tingleberry.
Speaker 1: You know. It's like a pocket rocket. You ever you
Speaker 1: ever seen a pocket round. It's a small vibrator and
Speaker 1: it's but it's a good powering. That's what it is.
Speaker 1: It's like the vibration. It's like I called it the
Speaker 1: automatic and then the little ring and you put your
Speaker 1: finger through the ring and like you don't even and
Speaker 1: after right, men will become extinct. I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 1: I like it. I like it a lot. We're gonna
Speaker 1: get you right. You just hold it by the ring,
Speaker 1: you just hang. Have you ever been late to work
Speaker 1: playing with sex toys? No, late to work because you
Speaker 1: were playing with sex toys and watching porn. I'm not
Speaker 1: late because I'm playing with maybe later the party, I
Speaker 1: just won't get out of bed. If that's the case,
Speaker 1: I just will cancel. I'm not work. But like you
Speaker 1: have a problem, can sex? I canceled like a lunch
Speaker 1: date with my home girl because I'm in a bit
Speaker 1: vibrating and masturbating. See, I haven't any times can you
Speaker 1: masturbate in a rug before you're like I'm done for hours?
Speaker 1: Really over and you CALLI Max want a time climax?
Speaker 1: So do you ever hold your come when you're masturbating?
Speaker 1: You'll do it all the time, right, because sometimes you're like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to, I don't want I want to
Speaker 1: lead up to it and then I'll stopped. See, But
Speaker 1: I feel like when I do that over and then
Speaker 1: whenever I feel like if you wait to hold it,
Speaker 1: the orgasm isn't as good to me because little happened
Speaker 1: is a orgasm by mistake, and I'm like, fun, I
Speaker 1: could and it wasn't a good one. It wasn't satisfying
Speaker 1: minute when you start over, it ended up there for
Speaker 1: to work. I sat days where I masturbate the whole day,
Speaker 1: but not like that back to back, like I'd take
Speaker 1: like fifteen minutes twenty minute breaks. You know, I'm watching
Speaker 1: that masturbating. When I was a little girl, I used
Speaker 1: to call it the feeling because it was when I
Speaker 1: first discovered my Pikachu and I was like, oh, I
Speaker 1: was like dingong, what's going on here? And I went
Speaker 1: through a phase where I'm masturbated, but it got out
Speaker 1: of control because I was doing it like around my family,
Speaker 1: Like I'd hide behind an ottoman and be like they
Speaker 1: all on the floor rubbing my vagina and like, you know,
Speaker 1: with rug burns on my forehead, to the point where
Speaker 1: my family was like, what, okay, we know what you're doing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I thought I didn't know. Little you know how
Speaker 1: you sometimes think people don't know what's up. Like I'm invisible.
Speaker 1: I don't want to bike rides and use the bicycle seat,
Speaker 1: and I would just be like it would use that
Speaker 1: and the and the monkey bars on the playground. I
Speaker 1: remember climbing up to them and I'd be like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm getting the feeling. And I got so shamed from it. Well,
Speaker 1: I didn't get so shamed, but I felt such shame
Speaker 1: after my parents caught me and we're told like told me,
Speaker 1: like you have to stop this. And they didn't say
Speaker 1: just stop it at you know, in public, they were
Speaker 1: like just stop all together. So I felt a lot
Speaker 1: of shame, And I think that might be why I
Speaker 1: I don't masturbate, like just no, yeah, I mean, do
Speaker 1: wes porn? No? I mean when I'm into a guy.
Speaker 1: I think I have like an underactive sex life and drive,
Speaker 1: Like I have to get more involved with what you
Speaker 1: guys are talking about, because I mean, you sound like
Speaker 1: you're all masturbating every day. I'm always tired. Do you
Speaker 1: have a boyfriend right now? Okay, so then you don't,
Speaker 1: but he doesn't live here. But do you still masturbate
Speaker 1: while okay, so if he doesn't love her, you do masturbab.
Speaker 1: But if you have a boy you have a boyfriend now,
Speaker 1: but you're still I don't single, but I was just
Speaker 1: an intend your relationship and I still masturbated almost every Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I was gonna say. I have yes, and
Speaker 1: she can square. I have a very high sex drive. Okay,
Speaker 1: well you can square a lot. I feel when I'm
Speaker 1: in a relationship, I never masturbate unless it's like me
Speaker 1: and him and he wants me to. I never masturbated me.
Speaker 1: Sometimes he's not and sometimes you can fall asleep and
Speaker 1: I was all ready to go. I feel like you're
Speaker 1: still masturbated. You have massurvated and put the cum mustache
Speaker 1: on him, like smell that you missed. You missed out
Speaker 1: on that one. This could have been you, oion you
Speaker 1: could have been you could have been He's like, well,
Speaker 1: it could have been me if you would have sucked
Speaker 1: my dick to wake me up. You know, I could
Speaker 1: even masturbated in front of a guy before. Oh my god, listen,
Speaker 1: let me say something. If I'm having sex with a
Speaker 1: guy and I'm about to come and he comes and
Speaker 1: I don't, I will finish the job right in front him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well as you should. Yeah, absolutely do it. So you
Speaker 1: do that, Chelsea. No, No, because if somebody fell asleep
Speaker 1: while I was having sex with them before I came, yeah,
Speaker 1: i'd wake that fucking house all up to and be like, hey, buddy,
Speaker 1: I'm here. I have sex once a year. I need
Speaker 1: you to wake up. Do you remember your first orgasm? Yeah,
Speaker 1: well my first orgasm was when I started getting the
Speaker 1: fielding you when I was with the guy. No, because
Speaker 1: I was overshadowed by me being alone with myself on
Speaker 1: a bicycle seat. I mean, I remember the first time
Speaker 1: I had sex and liking that, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I could get down with this. You know. I was
Speaker 1: like a teenager and I had an older boyfriend and
Speaker 1: I had sex when I was like fifteen, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is fun And it wasn't painful
Speaker 1: or anything like that. It was just like experience. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because that bike warmed me up. Bananas, it warmed me up.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, everybody likes to orgasm
Speaker 1: in my favorite Yeah, but do you remember your first one?
Speaker 1: Because I remember the first time I ever had an orgasm.
Speaker 1: I had an orgasm way before I had sex with guys,
Speaker 1: but it would make you have an orgasm before or
Speaker 1: if they know what they're doing. I've also been with
Speaker 1: guys who have no idea how to make a woman. Yes,
Speaker 1: I've been with guys that I've never came with, and
Speaker 1: I've been with guys who I always can make me come.
Speaker 1: And you know, it's when I prefer which one did that?
Speaker 1: All right? Chelsea? You're doing a red table talk as well. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's amazing. What do you all talk about?
Speaker 1: Give us a spoiler. We talk a lot about white privilege,
Speaker 1: a lot about the new documentary, which is Hello Privilege.
Speaker 1: It's me, Chelsea, about my own privilege because I wanted
Speaker 1: to make the film, you know, kind of exploring how
Speaker 1: I got to where I am because for a long
Speaker 1: time I really believed it was because I have a
Speaker 1: lot of talent, or I worked a really hard or
Speaker 1: did I didn't take into account what people who don't
Speaker 1: have my skin color would go through, or the fact that,
Speaker 1: you know, I was rewarded time and time again about
Speaker 1: talking about things that were supposedly taboo. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: like sex and drinking and one night stands And that
Speaker 1: was my first book, was One night Stands and uh,
Speaker 1: and you know, and I got rewarded for it over
Speaker 1: and over again. And you know, it didn't heard of
Speaker 1: me until after the election and looking at all of
Speaker 1: this stuff that we were seeing with all of these
Speaker 1: people being shot in the back by police multiple times,
Speaker 1: of all the discrimination, of all the stuff that made
Speaker 1: me go, oh my god, you've been so far up
Speaker 1: your own ass you haven't even considered or contemplated what
Speaker 1: it's like to not be you. Because I think we
Speaker 1: get lost, and you know this is not you know,
Speaker 1: this is a lot of us feel this way. We
Speaker 1: get lost in our own lives. People are trying to
Speaker 1: make ends meet. There, they have kids, stories, they're working
Speaker 1: three jobs. They don't have time to think about other people.
Speaker 1: And I did have time. I don't have kids, I
Speaker 1: don't have a husband. I don't have any of that.
Speaker 1: And I've been the architect of my life in that
Speaker 1: way because I don't want that kind of responsibility. I
Speaker 1: want to be able to be like a thought leader.
Speaker 1: I want to be communicating with people and telling people
Speaker 1: my stories and uh. And I really decided that, like
Speaker 1: I had to make it. I wanted to start making
Speaker 1: a contribution to people, uh that that need people like
Speaker 1: me to stick, you know, stand up for them a
Speaker 1: little bit more. Not to fix the situation, but to
Speaker 1: bring attention to people that are like me, that are
Speaker 1: well off and white, who have never contemplated the issue.
Speaker 1: It's more speaking to white people because it's a white
Speaker 1: person's problem. White privilege is not a black people's problem. Right,
Speaker 1: We created it, so let's start talking about it. And
Speaker 1: even though it's so uncomfortable, and white people don't want
Speaker 1: to be found guilty of something because then they have
Speaker 1: to give it away. They think, Oh, if I say
Speaker 1: I have a privilege or I'm the beneficiary of it,
Speaker 1: then what do I have to give up? Which is
Speaker 1: a great question. What are we all willing to give
Speaker 1: up as a community and as a culture. What if
Speaker 1: we could give up things for other people and would
Speaker 1: we and you know, and it's a question I asked myself,
Speaker 1: and it's a question I answered for myself and I
Speaker 1: and I wanted to spread that message, you know. And
Speaker 1: so for me, it was really about I think we
Speaker 1: all hang out with people that look like us, you know,
Speaker 1: that's our natural instinct is to be like you know,
Speaker 1: most of my friends are white. It takes a lot
Speaker 1: of time to go or not that much time. It
Speaker 1: takes a conscious effort to go, oh, okay, let me
Speaker 1: develop a friendship with this person that's not like me.
Speaker 1: She's from India. Let me get to know her culture
Speaker 1: and her background so that I have a little bit
Speaker 1: more compassion and a little bit more empathy. You just
Speaker 1: learned about empathy too. That's interesting because my psychiatrist you
Speaker 1: talk about that life would be the death of me
Speaker 1: and you having to realize that you have sympathy but
Speaker 1: you don't have empathy. So how has that changed your life? Well,
Speaker 1: it's good because you know, I needed going to a
Speaker 1: therapist and having them actually break down what they think
Speaker 1: is wrong with you when you're paying them is a
Speaker 1: great exchange. It's the best way to learn. And I
Speaker 1: was like, I need you to tell me what you know.
Speaker 1: I had no patience, I had no empathy, and and
Speaker 1: he said that, he told me, he goes you lack empathy,
Speaker 1: and I was so confused about the distinction between sympathy
Speaker 1: and empathy. And then over time, you know, you're able
Speaker 1: to cold as long as you are aware of the situation.
Speaker 1: Like once he brought that to my attack mention, then
Speaker 1: I had to look out for it. And I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: when when somebody annoyed me, for instance, I'd be okay. Now,
Speaker 1: think about their lives, think about their house and how
Speaker 1: long they've worked today, and how many assholes they've dealt with,
Speaker 1: and think about if they have a wife or a
Speaker 1: kid that loves them. You don't want to be mean
Speaker 1: to somebody, you know, Like I had to do these
Speaker 1: exercises to cultivate that empathy. So it's not something that
Speaker 1: you just because you don't have it doesn't mean you
Speaker 1: can't get it. You can get it right. And you know,
Speaker 1: now it's exhausting because I have these thoughts about everybody
Speaker 1: every day. I think about, like the reason this person
Speaker 1: is being an asshole is because of this this, And
Speaker 1: it helps me because it helps me because you're kind
Speaker 1: of like analyzing them and then you and then you
Speaker 1: kind of feel bad for them. You're like, yeah, well
Speaker 1: that you're helping me because i'd be you know, I'm
Speaker 1: a bully. I'm kind of like you. Yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I get it. But it's also nice to take a
Speaker 1: moment instead of reacting to everything. It was responding like
Speaker 1: taking the moment. The difference between a reaction and response
Speaker 1: is the space of awareness in between that you you
Speaker 1: just said fuck you to me, and if I say
Speaker 1: fuck you, that's that's ego, that's my defense. If you
Speaker 1: say fuck you to me and I say, whoa wait, why? Why?
Speaker 1: Why what I do? Or how do we get here? Yeah?
Speaker 1: How did we get here? Then that is not reactive.
Speaker 1: That's a response. And I had to learn that skill,
Speaker 1: which I mean if if you watch the documentary, you
Speaker 1: could tell that I've nailed and they would say some
Speaker 1: things and I was people are used to me going
Speaker 1: for it, and I was like, I was on my
Speaker 1: own mission. I'm like, no, this is empathy. I want
Speaker 1: to understand because I don't think people are inherently bad.
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's inherently bad. You lose your way
Speaker 1: people make bad choices. They're brought up in environments that
Speaker 1: aren't educative. You know, they don't understand the history of
Speaker 1: except that Trump. Well, Donald Trump, I have no sympathy
Speaker 1: for yas like that. He's dead in the head. So
Speaker 1: so that's enough. But but it is a great skill
Speaker 1: to cultivating. It makes you understand people better and that
Speaker 1: people have different lives and they have different experience is
Speaker 1: and and not to be mad at somebody for voting
Speaker 1: for Donald Trump. To understand why they were moved in
Speaker 1: that direction, and do they regret it now, because that's
Speaker 1: how I really judge you. Did you make a bad decision?
Speaker 1: Because if you voted for Donald Trump and you still
Speaker 1: think that was a great idea, I don't know how
Speaker 1: much empathy I have. Yeah, yeah, that's a racist at
Speaker 1: this point. If you're still supporting this guy, then you're
Speaker 1: fucking racist. And that's all there is to it. Right.
Speaker 1: What do you think about the candidates that are coming
Speaker 1: up now? Do you see anybody that may I love
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren? I Elizabeth Warren and Stacy Abrams to team
Speaker 1: up that ticket to me sounds super super exciting. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a big Elizabeth Warren fan, what about you. I'm
Speaker 1: on the fence still. I still want to hear some
Speaker 1: more stuff. I like, you know who, I really like it.
Speaker 1: Everybody thinks I'm crazy. I'm part of the young gang
Speaker 1: like that, you know, because I think he has different
Speaker 1: approaches and I feel like sometimes you have to take
Speaker 1: a different approach. And maybe he's not the president need
Speaker 1: to be of the day, but I feel like he
Speaker 1: is somebody that we need to listen to because he's
Speaker 1: not wrong about certain things that he's said. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: like Andrew Yang. I don't know if I would want
Speaker 1: him to be president. I like Elizabeth Warren because she
Speaker 1: has all those solutions. Yeah well yeah, yeah, Elizabeth Warren
Speaker 1: does have solutions. She actually has a plan, which compared
Speaker 1: to you know, this buffoon, it's like, okay, we're doing
Speaker 1: I think that needed right now, not just a bunch
Speaker 1: of talk, not just a bunch of but really a thoughtful, like,
Speaker 1: well thought out like plan of how to fix this
Speaker 1: ship because it's a cluster, and to make legislation moving
Speaker 1: forward that we don't ever get ourselves in a situation
Speaker 1: where that guy can just sign off a bunch of
Speaker 1: executive orders. Right, this is a tyranny right now. So
Speaker 1: it's what we're living in. But um, Chelsea, I know
Speaker 1: you have to go, but I want to really honestly,
Speaker 1: like I was so excited for you to come here
Speaker 1: because we're watching you forever. I went to your stand up.
Speaker 1: You know, I read all of your books, My horizontal
Speaker 1: life that was joy, things like that, and I love
Speaker 1: the lies. Chelsea told me. You want Chelsey Handler, I mean,
Speaker 1: Chelsea lately to come back that one. A lot of
Speaker 1: people want that my mic when we're out of idea.
Speaker 1: As I say to my team, you'll see it was
Speaker 1: to me, that was the best late night show. Like
Speaker 1: I said, I fashioned myself. When people tell me like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're talking too much about that, you're talking too much
Speaker 1: about anal, I'm like, okay, but Chelsea, there you go.
Speaker 1: I paved your anal pathway. But I'm disappointed about your
Speaker 1: last sucking skills and how you are. I know, I
Speaker 1: bet it's everyone, no one stout people more disappointed than me,
Speaker 1: I'm sure. But next time you come back, because I
Speaker 1: know you are going to come back, Oh maybe we
Speaker 1: should try that what's it called again? We're doing? Should
Speaker 1: do ayouaska and suck dick on it. No, shall we
Speaker 1: throwing up his ship? That's what I want. I want.
Speaker 1: It's supposed to be something that reflects you want me.
Speaker 1: I'm okay. I think if Jesus you might, That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I want to do it so bad. Alright,
Speaker 1: we are going to do it. Time we see each other,
Speaker 1: we're gonna be yeah. Yeah, she's getting a good shamming.
Speaker 1: All right. Well, thank you so much. And again, your
Speaker 1: tour is happening right now. You're starting off in Australia, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Australia and then I'm doing some North American cities Live
Speaker 1: nation dot com. You can buy tickets. Oh and we
Speaker 1: have a tour too, one Live Lives at the end
Speaker 1: of October. Is it October? Yeah, it's funny money at
Speaker 1: in Philly and then New York and then we have
Speaker 1: a bunch of different cities. We're not going to Australia
Speaker 1: or nothing, but what we are coming to l a
Speaker 1: and yes, so make sure you check us out to
Speaker 1: on Live Nation as well to get those tickets for
Speaker 1: our lift service live. Thank you so much, Chelsea, We
Speaker 1: really appreciate Thank you. Girls.