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Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. Welcome to move the sticks, DJ, Bucky Rhett,

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Speaker 1: as we are looking back on a pretty eventful Week

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Speaker 1: one here boys. Great to see you, Buck. I want

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Speaker 1: to start with you first, as as we're going to

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Speaker 1: go through a bunch of these games, but before we

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Speaker 1: get to the specifics of the game's Rett piggyback on

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Speaker 1: this big picture takeaway as by the way you see

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Speaker 1: my shirt, I'm trying to stay positive, Buck, So let's

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Speaker 1: keep the theme here as positive as we can. But

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Speaker 1: would you take away.

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Speaker 2: The preseason is a liar when it comes to the

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Speaker 2: when you get to the regular.

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Speaker 1: Season, it is night and day from the preseason, and

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Speaker 2: Learned a lot about our young quarterbacks going through their

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Speaker 3: I think there's still you know, week one, I think

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Speaker 3: you could kind of say that same thing, Bucky, like

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Speaker 3: for some teams, we're going to see some major growth

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Speaker 3: here in week two. I mean I remember watching the

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Speaker 3: down DJ if forgetting a win with the Raiders. You know,

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Speaker 3: other takeaway is Panthers still have a lot of work

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Speaker 1: I don't think yeah, that's yeah, we'll get there. We'll

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Speaker 1: get there. My my takeaways, Buck, I'm with you on

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Speaker 1: kind of the preseason. I think that was reflected in

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Speaker 1: the way it's been for the last few years. You're

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Speaker 1: that was one takeaway. The other one was and we'll

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Speaker 1: get into these games. But there's I had this like

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Speaker 1: like Jeff Fisher thought, don't ask me why, but like

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Speaker 1: a Jeff Fisher, Marty Schottenheimer thought of, you know, everything

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Speaker 1: cyclical in this league, and there's still an old school

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Speaker 1: But you played on one of those there's like this,

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Speaker 2: No, it's funny because having played for Mardy Schottenhammer, he

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Speaker 2: would always tell you more games are lost than one.

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Speaker 2: If you run the ball, play good defense, and find

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Speaker 1: I think it's a terrific regular season formula. You need

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Speaker 1: Yeah, New England was one of those teams too, right,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, und Andre a bunch of sacks and pressure and yeah,

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Speaker 1: specific games here, Buck, I'm gonna give you the floor

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Speaker 1: Rams Detroit, coming off Sunday night. What did you what

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Speaker 2: My takeaway for both teams man tough, greedy teams, and

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Speaker 3: They were already without Hanstein and so they didn't run

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Speaker 1: You saw that Buck you mentioned Jamison, like Jameis Williams

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Speaker 1: Where they don't need, you know, Aman Ross Saint Brown

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Speaker 1: it was Stafford for me was the takeaway. Did you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and lets you know what arm talent can do

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Speaker 2: and their running attack is really set up everything for

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Speaker 2: a long time. But just Matthew Stafford at quarterback, he's

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Speaker 1: And it's funny because I have trim minister respect for

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Speaker 1: I know he's aging out and maybe in the twilight

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Speaker 5: It wasn't going to affect me. Honestly, I've told you

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, I think Dak Prescott's story is he's kind of remarkable.

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Speaker 1: We can take shots.

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Speaker 2: At how he may play the game in those things,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just to wrap that up on the contract, I

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Speaker 1: While it was not good on his part, let's start

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, Like I mean, DJ, you just don't go

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Speaker 1: Teach, Yeah, scheme, speed effort. All excellent for the Dallas

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Speaker 2: The newbies were as advertised, meaning Joe Mix and Stefan

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Speaker 1: to you rhtt. I know you want to touch on

437
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Speaker 1: the run game and'll get over the Colts but quickly.

438
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Speaker 1: On Houston's defense, Danil Hunter good investment, guys, that was

439
00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,960
Speaker 1: a very good investment watching that tape because he still

440
00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,399
Speaker 1: has it. He's got a whole bag of dricks, he

441
00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,639
Speaker 1: still has juice. He's a feel rusher as well as

442
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Speaker 1: an explosive rusher. So that is a that's been a

443
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Speaker 1: home run sighting looking at that. Derek Barnett another guy

444
00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,040
Speaker 1: who Derek Barnett not going to wow you on the Stopwatch,

445
00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:55,560
Speaker 1: is not going to wow you on the stage. But

446
00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,920
Speaker 1: some guys just have a knack for being able to

447
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Speaker 1: get pressure and are very instinctive rushers. So they have

448
00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,160
Speaker 1: accumulated a nice mix of guys. Obviously you know Will

449
00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,639
Speaker 1: Anderson being in that group, but they've got guys that

450
00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,399
Speaker 1: not only are talented, but guys that just know how

451
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Speaker 1: to rush, know how to win. And I saw that

452
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Speaker 1: when I when I looked at their group up front.

453
00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,320
Speaker 1: Mario Edwards also getting after it a little bit there.

454
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Speaker 1: So that defense for the Houston Texans, Rhett I was

455
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Speaker 1: impressed as well as what they did on the offensive

456
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Speaker 1: side of the ball. Yeah.

457
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Speaker 3: I mean, like you throw in daneil Hunter out there

458
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Speaker 3: with Will Anderson and you know Demko Ryans doesn't have

459
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Speaker 3: to send a ton of extra rushers. I think they

460
00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,840
Speaker 3: only blitz two or three times in this game, right,

461
00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,320
Speaker 3: so you can generate some pressure with four and then

462
00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,600
Speaker 3: play some coverage behind. Now they don't want to give

463
00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,000
Speaker 3: up those fifty yard completions anymore. But it wasn't like

464
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Speaker 3: the head guys running free back there some good plays made,

465
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Speaker 3: you know, Alec Pierce went up and made a couple

466
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Speaker 3: of good plays. They got they gotta find a way

467
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Speaker 3: to dig in on those those big explosive plays and coverage.

468
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Speaker 3: But guys, I mean, like the fact that the first

469
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Speaker 3: thing out of my mouth is not about c J.

470
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Speaker 3: Stroud and some of the throws you know he made

471
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Speaker 3: in this game. I think if you watched our show

472
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Speaker 3: last year, is maybe a real telltale sign of what's

473
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Speaker 3: going on right now in Houston. You guys talked about

474
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Speaker 3: the thirty carries, You talked about the newbies like digs

475
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Speaker 3: and mix it. How about Kenyon Green getting back into

476
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Speaker 3: the lineup, the first round player on the offensive line

477
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Speaker 3: that they now got sitting right next to Laramie Tunsul,

478
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Speaker 3: you know, didn't play, you know, is really getting his

479
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Speaker 3: first you know, significant real playing time here in a

480
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Speaker 3: long time. And his physicality in the run game I

481
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Speaker 3: thought was apparent. They had six explosive runs in this thing,

482
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Speaker 3: and he was a key piece of just about every

483
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Speaker 3: single one of them. I mean, you want to talk

484
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Speaker 3: about stunning with physicality some of these linebackers on the

485
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Speaker 3: second level. I mean, and look again, this comes back

486
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Speaker 3: to GM coaching staff understanding you know where they want

487
00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,520
Speaker 3: to attack, how they want to attack. Joe Mixon to

488
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Speaker 3: come in and run. This outside zone scheme was the

489
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Speaker 3: perfect fit his vision on some of these plays, finding

490
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Speaker 3: a way to create some of those creases, and then

491
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Speaker 3: the explosive ability to burst through was just apparent. And

492
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Speaker 3: then the commitment to the run game was awesome, because

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Speaker 3: I mean, if I got CJ. Stroud back there, I'm

494
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Speaker 3: tempted to throw the ball fifty times a game. But

495
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Speaker 3: the fact that they were able to hand that off

496
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Speaker 3: the Joe Mixon successfully for thirty times shows you just

497
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Speaker 3: how difficult this offense is going to be to deal

498
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Speaker 3: with this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's put a bow on them because they I

500
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Speaker 1: would put them in the same boat as what we

501
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Speaker 1: talked about earlier with Detroit. These teams are very young,

502
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Speaker 1: they're very talented, and through one week we can see

503
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Speaker 1: the additions they've made and the next steps that those

504
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Speaker 1: two squads are taking. By the way, Anthony Richardson that throw,

505
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Speaker 1: that throw needs to be NFL film sized, which means

506
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,119
Speaker 1: it needs to be slow motion. Zoom in on the

507
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Speaker 1: ball and just watch that thing turn over and look

508
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Speaker 1: at how far he chucked that thing. Buck you know,

509
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Speaker 1: in terms of just the talent, and I think you're

510
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Speaker 1: seeing already just in this one little snapshot. You're seeing

511
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Speaker 1: the handful of games he got last year, a little

512
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Speaker 1: bit of experience for Anthony Richardson. The talent is next

513
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Speaker 1: level freaky stuff. And I think you're going to see

514
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Speaker 1: this dude just get better and better and better.

515
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Speaker 2: Yeah, DJ, Like, if he does it, man, he's going

516
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Speaker 2: to kind of break the mold of what we think

517
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Speaker 2: when it comes to quarterbacks. Like the fact that he's

518
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Speaker 2: only played since high school. Prior to this game, he

519
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 2: had only had seventeen stars since he left high school.

520
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Speaker 2: The fact that we're talking about a guy who is

521
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Speaker 2: really a freak athlete that they are making into a quarterback.

522
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Speaker 2: If they pull this off, it changes everything when it

523
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Speaker 2: comes to this out of the evaluation. It is part

524
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Speaker 2: of the reason why maybe the New England Pages drafted

525
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Speaker 2: a guy like Joe Milton, even though his game is

526
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Speaker 2: not as refined. You're like, hey, give me the trace

527
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Speaker 2: and we can figure it out.

528
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Speaker 1: Anthony Britton.

529
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Speaker 2: Anthony Britton is a nice science lab experiment, because if

530
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Speaker 2: it works for him, it's going to work for some

531
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Speaker 2: others down the road.

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Speaker 1: I think we'll see these teams again square off one

533
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Speaker 1: more time this year, and I look, we'll see that,

534
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Speaker 1: you know, with the Jacks here just a moment, but

535
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Speaker 1: this could be it right here. These two teams are

536
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Speaker 1: very evenly matched. It's going to be a fun race

537
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Speaker 1: in the AFC South. All right, Buckets, time to talk

538
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Speaker 1: about the two games we were at here. Let's get

539
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Speaker 1: to your Jags Dolphins game. I'll be honest, I was

540
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Speaker 1: following the score in the press box at so Far

541
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Speaker 1: and I thought I thought the Jags were in business,

542
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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I looked up and it

543
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:11,360
Speaker 1: got away from them.

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Speaker 5: There.

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Speaker 1: What was your what was your takeaway being in the stadium?

546
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Speaker 1: Takeaway one?

547
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Speaker 2: The Miami Dolphins are as fast as team as I've

548
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Speaker 2: ever seen up close in person.

549
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Speaker 1: DJ.

550
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Speaker 2: They are the NFL's version of the old school Golden

551
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Speaker 2: State Warriors in terms of like the uniqueness of their

552
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Speaker 2: style of play with the personnel that they had, Like

553
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Speaker 2: it is one thing where we always kind of loosely

554
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Speaker 2: throw out like, hey, this is a track team, YadA.

555
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Speaker 1: YadA, YadA.

556
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Speaker 2: But DJ, they are a track team that almost plays

557
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 2: a high school version of football. It is screens, sweeps,

558
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 2: and shots. That's what you get when you did with

559
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Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins. And at one point on the board, Man,

560
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 2: they put on the board like, oh two, a tone

561
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Speaker 2: of lower is thrown for well over three hundred yards

562
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Speaker 2: and I felt like two hundred and eighty of them

563
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Speaker 2: where yards have to catch the fact that you have

564
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Speaker 2: to tackle the these guys in space. They not only

565
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 2: challenge your athleticism, but they challenge your fundamentals. And I

566
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 2: now understand why it's so important for them to get

567
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Speaker 2: a home game or multiple home games in the playoffs.

568
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 2: If they play at home in perfect conditions, Man, DJ,

569
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Speaker 2: it is a very difficult team to deal with. As

570
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Speaker 2: it relates to the game, the Jaguars were one. I

571
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Speaker 2: was surprised. The Jaguars have been playing Mandeman the entire preseason,

572
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Speaker 2: so I was like, are they really gonna play Mandaman

573
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Speaker 2: against the Dolphins?

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Speaker 1: And they did so.

575
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Speaker 2: They stayed true to form and for the most part,

576
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Speaker 2: it was fine. But here's the thing about speed. It

577
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Speaker 2: only takes one mess up for the game to flip.

578
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Speaker 2: They were dominating the game. It was seventeen to seven.

579
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Speaker 2: They're on their way to go score it's gonna be

580
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Speaker 2: twenty four to seven Travis Ncy and fumbles in the

581
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Speaker 2: back of the end zone DJ.

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Speaker 1: Much like a high school game. What happens after sudden

583
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Speaker 1: change shot?

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Speaker 2: They throw an eighty yard bomb that looked like we

585
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Speaker 2: were playing Madden.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm looking like, there's no way, Tyreek kill,

587
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Speaker 1: let's go track that down. He can't track that down.

588
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Speaker 1: He's coming from one number all the way across the

589
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Speaker 1: field to the other number. DJ.

590
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Speaker 2: He catches it the strit and from then on it

591
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 2: was like Steph Curry whipping the crowd into a frenzy

592
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Speaker 2: in the.

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Speaker 1: Old Oracle Arena.

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Speaker 2: It is the same thing that happened, because after that

595
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 2: the stadium got jumping, and their defense and offense just

596
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 2: came to life. The impact of a playmaker like Tyreek Hiell,

597
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,880
Speaker 2: it goes beyond what he does for the offense. Everyone

598
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Speaker 2: pays the price of admission to see him make an

599
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Speaker 2: explosive play.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, Man, that was a huge

602
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 3: turning point in the game, right, I mean, that's that

603
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 3: is a fourteen point swing. Etn going into score to

604
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Speaker 3: make it a two score advantage, and then it flips

605
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Speaker 3: on its head. And now the Dolphins are often literally

606
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Speaker 3: running by the.

607
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Speaker 4: Way on an adyr catch.

608
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Speaker 3: I was like, all right, he caught it, but ninety

609
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Speaker 3: nine percent of the players in the league do get

610
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Speaker 3: hawked down at that pain.

611
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Speaker 4: But the fact that he was able.

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Speaker 3: To turn the corner with about that much space between

613
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 3: the defenders and the sideline was incredible. I've never seen

614
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 3: anything like that on the sideline like that, So that

615
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 3: was that was pretty special. The thing I'll say, you

616
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Speaker 3: know in this game for the Dolphins was Jalen Phillips

617
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Speaker 3: is back. Like the way that he gets after it

618
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 3: off the edge right now coming off that injury was impressive.

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Speaker 4: It's an excellent pressure. He got a sack on another

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Speaker 4: play he was beating up.

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Speaker 3: I was at Cam Robinson on on the right side,

622
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Speaker 3: Kalaias Campbell getting in on the action there as you

623
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Speaker 3: see it. So the other thing that I thought was,

624
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Speaker 3: you know, where where did the Jaguars, you know, offense go,

625
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Speaker 3: Where did the play calling go on third down? Didn't

626
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Speaker 3: convert a single third down in the second half, didn't

627
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 3: have a completion on third down in the second half,

628
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Speaker 3: So extending drives became very difficult, and I think part

629
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Speaker 3: of it you got to give credit again to the

630
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Speaker 3: Dolphins defense. They did not show the same look or

631
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 3: run the same coverage on any of those third downs

632
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 3: that the Jaguars had, So we were always getting different

633
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 3: looks and just there was not an adjustment made to

634
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 3: deal with the way that they were getting attacked, you

635
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Speaker 3: know from a you know, in a Jaguars offensive perspective there.

636
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Speaker 1: So got to figure that out here down the stretch. Yeah,

637
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 1: I'll pick you back on both your points here. Explosive

638
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: plays when you have an eighty yard catch from Tyreek Hill,

639
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: a sixty three yard catch from Jalen Waddle, in a

640
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: thirty nine yard catch from a Chan like like, holy cow,

641
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: man like these it's it's literally it's that scene. I

642
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: always go back to it, but it just reminds me

643
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 1: every time I see this stuff. It reminds me of

644
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: Harrison Ford in Indiana Jones and the guys just wielding

645
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: the sword and doing all that, and he just kind

646
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: of rolls his eyes, pulls out his gun and then

647
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 1: like the fight's over, like there no need for a

648
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: prolonged battle here, Like you're literally bring a knife to

649
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: a gunfight in that regard, So the explosives, that's who

650
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins are, and then I went and watched

651
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: all their pass rush stuff. So Jalen Phillips looks like

652
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: he could be someone who could lead the league in sacks.

653
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: Like that's how good he looks with every every trick

654
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: in his bag. He can combine moves, he can win

655
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: with speed, he can turn the corner, he can They

656
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 1: tried to block him with a tight end. God bless him.

657
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,959
Speaker 1: I didn't go well. So he was outstanding. And then

658
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: you also look Chop Robinson got a chance to see

659
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: him the speed to power that was there. Rhett, you know,

660
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 1: touched on Kalais he was unblocked on his but Ogba

661
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 1: got some heat, Siler got back there. So they've got

662
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 1: a pretty good front that they can throw at you

663
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 1: right now with Phillips kind of being the headliner there.

664
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: But that was that was a good win for the

665
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,959
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins against the Jags team that I thought. You know,

666
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: they matched up from a physical standpoint, no question, But Buck,

667
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: you hit it on the head, you know, one place

668
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,239
Speaker 1: swing momentum shifted. And then once that happens, once that

669
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 1: car got into overdrive, man, it's tough to slow that

670
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: thing down.

671
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 2: It is, And I got to say he was a

672
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 2: hundred degrees hundred degrees plus on the field, and what

673
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 2: the Jaguars were doing, they were rolling people in and

674
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 2: out like it reminded me of watching Oregon doing the

675
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: Chip Kelly era when they were having hockey line shifts

676
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 2: and pulling everybody in. What happened is the cumulative effect

677
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 2: of chasing down those rabbits.

678
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: I mean, like after a while, man, you just wear out.

679
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 2: And in the fourth when the Miami Dolphins got it going,

680
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,239
Speaker 2: I mean they could have their way just because of

681
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 2: I would say the cumulative of fatigue of chasing those

682
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 2: guys all over the field. And even though it's funny

683
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 2: their offense is really horizontal with the occasional vertical shots,

684
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 2: I mean, they just test the tackling. You have to

685
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 2: be a great tackling team to deal with them. And

686
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 2: I look, I feel like the Jaguars played an a

687
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 2: plus game for the most part, in particularly on defense.

688
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 2: I can only imagine when that Dolphins team gets in

689
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 2: rhythm and they add some more pieces of the puzzle,

690
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 2: it'd be a very very difficult team to deal with.

691
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: No doubt. Let's get to the next game here. Game

692
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: I was at Jim Harbaugh's debut is a Chargers head

693
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: coach and ugly first half with the Raiders. It is

694
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: a seven to six ball game. And then next thing

695
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: you know, the Chargers come out in the second half

696
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: and all those ones and twos, you know, yard runs,

697
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: they can't get first downs, can't convert. All of a sudden,

698
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: you're popping a couple of those runs. JK. Dobbins pops

699
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: two of them. Then they get in the red zone.

700
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: You need Herbert on a big down to be able

701
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: to make a play. He hits Lad McConkie for a touchdown.

702
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: The defense who is rested. You know, that's one of

703
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: those things when you're running the ball, you know, when

704
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: you're not being as successful, you're shortening the game. You're

705
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: giving your defense a rest. And Mac and Bosa were

706
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: dominant on that side of the ball. The whole defense

707
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: was outstanding that poona Ford had an interception late, but

708
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: he was all over the field, very active, big time

709
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: from him. Joe Alt and I was talking to Baldy

710
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: this morning about it. I'm like that, dude, you got

711
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: to watch this what he did with Max Crosby, because

712
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: Max Crosby obviously is as good as it gets and

713
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,479
Speaker 1: Joe Allt more than held his own there his debut

714
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: for them to trust him and leave him one on one,

715
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: that was impressive. But you know, overall, big picture, I

716
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: go back to what I said at the top, which

717
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: is there is a formula and not a lot of

718
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: people want to do it. But I was reminded that

719
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: it's felt like a Marty Schottenheimer era Chargers team buck

720
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: where it was we are going to run the ball.

721
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: We're okay with field goals and punts. We're going to

722
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: play field position. We're going to make you drive the

723
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: length of the field. We're not we're going to give

724
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: you nothing. We're not giving you anything, and when you

725
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: screw up, we're going to cash it in. And that's

726
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: a formula that literally goes back to the man you

727
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: played for, and it still works to this day.

728
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 2: So I remember our conversations a long time with Ladanian Thomason,

729
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 2: and I would always talk to him about the Marty

730
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: Shathaim error with the Charge and he said, man, if

731
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 2: Marty had hung around it, they eventually would have knocked

732
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 2: the door down. He just talked about the physicality and

733
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 2: the toughness and running power over and over and over again,

734
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: and the confidence that comes from knowing they know exactly

735
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 2: what we're doing and they can't stop it. And you

736
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 2: already can sense that the Chargers are emboldened by I

737
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 2: would say harbor O's arrogance and stubbornness when it comes

738
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: to we're running the football. Yes, I have one of

739
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 2: the best quarterbacks in the league, but he is a

740
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 2: compliment to how we want to play in DJ. I

741
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: just think the way they were able to wear the

742
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 2: Raiders down in the second half, and how he talked

743
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 2: to the team after the game about improvement and physicality

744
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 2: and toughness. Man, they are all then drinking the kool aid.

745
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 2: It's going to be a very very interesting run. When

746
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 2: we watched the Charges this season, I.

747
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 3: Mean, the dichotomy of style I think is just so different.

748
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just it's so apparent, I should say DJ.

749
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 3: I mean, like you think of JK. Dobbins going for

750
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty five yards, which was, by by

751
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 3: the way, the second best game of his entire career,

752
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 3: although we haven't seen a lot of those games in

753
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 3: the last couple of years due to the injuries.

754
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 4: What the Chargers player last year with a rushing performance

755
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 4: of over one hundred and twenty five.

756
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 3: Yards, So like it's already taking shape, like you we

757
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 3: talked about it, and we're now seeing it, and now

758
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 3: it's going to be up the defenses as to whether

759
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 3: they can stop it when it comes to Harball and

760
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 3: Roman in.

761
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 4: This physical attack.

762
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 3: The thing that I'll go to here, just from the

763
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 3: Raiders point of view, I was really intrigued to see

764
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 3: what what brought Bauers was going to look like, how

765
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 3: they're going to use him. I think he basically split

766
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 3: his time DJ and correct me if I'm wrong if

767
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 3: you saw it differently, but kind of as a you know,

768
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 3: attached inline type of player and then you know kind

769
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 3: of split is more of a slot receiver type of player.

770
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 3: And they were moving him all over the place. I think,

771
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 3: I want to say almost every play you saw him

772
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 3: in motion, well in a lot of different ways.

773
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: Right.

774
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 3: They were using him at the point of attack, you know,

775
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 3: coming in on motion and some of the run game.

776
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 4: Stuff there that was that was useful.

777
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 3: They were using him to chip as much as he

778
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 3: could and can then kind of get out into the

779
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 3: routes on delay type routes. But the thing that I

780
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 3: didn't see that I really wanted to see, was him

781
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 3: getting the ball with the opportunity to really make some

782
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 3: moves with the ball in his hands, right run after

783
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 3: the catch, because that's the stuff that we love seeing

784
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 3: at George. It's a little bittle more difficult to generate

785
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 3: that type of attack. I get it in the league

786
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 3: with the speed and athleticism of the players here, but

787
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 3: I just didn't get to see him kind of turn

788
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 3: on that running back mode right a bunch in this game.

789
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 3: His short hands, his strong hands. Though, I think we're

790
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 3: very beneficial to Gardner Minshew here. I mean, you know,

791
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 3: three of his six catches, you know, went for first

792
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 3: downs at the sticks.

793
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 4: So I'll be curious to see how that evolution moves forward.

794
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,719
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to give you to wrap it up

795
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: there on this game. I said when I went to

796
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: training camp, and I got so much grief for this,

797
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: but I said, I know, and DeVante Adams and what

798
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: he's accomplished in his career, Rock Bowers is going to

799
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: be the best player on this offense. And seeing it

800
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: out there live and in person, and I'm seeing a

801
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: team that's offensively challenged, you know, in the quarterback situation

802
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: is not great. I came away from that and this

803
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: was my takeaway, free, free, free of charge. I'll put

804
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 1: a bow on this. But here's my one recommendation to

805
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: the Las Vegas Raiders. You need a personnel group with

806
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: no running backs. You're gonna go out there and you're

807
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: gonna have one tight end and you're gonna have four

808
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: wide outs and you're gonna use brock Bauers. You're gonna

809
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: see what looks you get. You can literally put him

810
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: in the backfield. You want to see him run after

811
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: the catch, Well, I'm gonna toss it to him. I'm

812
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: gonna hand it to him. I'm gonna give him a

813
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: reverse like this offense is gonna need him to be

814
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: the focal point and in a big way that he

815
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: cannot have enough touches because they just don't have guys

816
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: that can that can really make plays, and he is

817
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: their best offensive player. And I say that with total

818
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: respect for for what DeVante Adams is accomplished in his career.

819
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to get very creative to score points.

820
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: They're just gonna be a little bit challenged there. So

821
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: that's my bow, that's my free advice to the Las

822
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders. All right, right, let's jump to some of

823
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: these rookiy quarterbacks. Here. I'll start first of all here Chicago.

824
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: We'll work top top of the list. Here at Caleb

825
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: Williams first overall. Pick. The stat sheet doesn't look great.

826
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: You see it, fourteen for twenty nine, doesn't even throw

827
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: for one hundred yards. One of those deals. When you

828
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: see the numbers and you're working another game, you're like,

829
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: oh boy, this is going to be a tough watch.

830
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: And then I studied it. I was like, actually, I

831
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: took a lot of good out of that, including the

832
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:27,919
Speaker 1: throw you're looking at right here on a boot where

833
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: he puts the ball right on the money. Look, there

834
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: was on time throws which I love seeing. There was

835
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: a touchdown that was dropped by Keenan Allen that was

836
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 1: a perfect throw on the pylon on a quick little out.

837
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: You see him scramble for a first down on a

838
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: third and long, which was a nice addition to this offense.

839
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: So I can pull out a lot of those things

840
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: and be very encouraged. Now him and Keenan all we

841
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: are not on the same page on some of these

842
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: option routes, which Keenan is one of the more unique.

843
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,240
Speaker 1: I guess he is just unique as a route runner

844
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: in terms of setting guys up and trying to get

845
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: a feel from it. I think that's going to take

846
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: a minute for those guys to sync up and be

847
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 1: on the same page. So there's some things to work

848
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: on there. There's a couple of deep shots where it

849
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: was overthrown a little bit, and I'm not going to

850
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: make excuses for him. Look, it is called the Windy City,

851
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: that is the nickname, so there's gonna be some adjustments there.

852
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 1: Maybe a little bit too much air on the ball.

853
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: But then you know from other things that I think

854
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: he does need to work on first and foremost is

855
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: just finding lanes. There's too many tip balls. He's not

856
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: the tallest guy in the world, and if you study

857
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: the guys like Drew Brees who played forever in this league,

858
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: you know, not being real tall, there's a movement within

859
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: the pocket, as Andy Reid used to always say when

860
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: I was around, and we throw between buildings, not overbuildings.

861
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: So that's why size isn't as important. So he's got

862
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: to work on that a little bit.

863
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, three batted passes in this game and like that

864
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 3: number may seem like low in general to you know.

865
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: Sevent team for twenty nine looks it's a lot better

866
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: than fourteen for twenty nine.

867
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 4: Exactly right, exactly right.

868
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 3: So if those get completed, you know, maybe it does

869
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 3: have a different feel.

870
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 4: But yeah, you know, I go back to, you know,

871
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 4: part of this.

872
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 3: I think you gotta also give a little bit of

873
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 3: credit to the Titans defense here, you know, and they're

874
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 3: good at sweat up there, right, you know, Jeff Simmons,

875
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 3: Errol Landry coming off the edge, like that's that's where

876
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 3: this team is built to, you know, have some success.

877
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 3: And I think part of what we saw from Kayleb was,

878
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 3: you know, like they weren't able to run the ball

879
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 3: at all. I mean they tried, I think six different

880
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 3: ball carriers. DeAndre Swift was leading the way, but he

881
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 3: ends up with just thirty yards you know, on the

882
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 3: day on ten carries. So I think they've got some

883
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 3: work to do there up front to try to figure

884
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 3: out you know, defenses that that are pretty stout upfront,

885
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 3: and they will.

886
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 4: But I think overall this is really good news, Like.

887
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 3: You're giving us, you know, the positive take on a

888
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 3: less than productive stat performance for Caleb Williams right, because

889
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 3: there is some hidden stuff that was good. And I

890
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,439
Speaker 3: think ultimately they win the game and Caleb Williams doesn't

891
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 3: throw for one hundred yards. I think that paints a

892
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 3: picture of the evolution under Matty eberflu is better than

893
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 3: any right, you get a special team's block punt return

894
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 3: for a score. You block a punt, you're gonna win

895
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 3: the game more often than not. You return it for

896
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 3: a touchdown, that percentage goes way up, right, and then

897
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 3: on defense you're able to get the pick six. I

898
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 3: think when you compare these two quarterbacks, Will Levis, sure

899
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 3: his first season is QB one, but he's got more

900
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 3: experience than Caleb Williams, and he made throws that you'd see,

901
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 3: you'd you'd hope a rookie doesn't make it, you know,

902
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 3: and Caleb didn't do that in this game, right, didn't

903
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 3: really hurt them that way. So all in all, I

904
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 3: feel pretty good about this. If I'm the Bears. If

905
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 3: on the Titans, you know, Brian Callahan and Will Levis

906
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 3: got to get together and make sure that those throws

907
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 3: aren't there, and you protect the ball a little bit more.

908
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 3: You're in a much better spot to win this game

909
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 3: on the road in Week one.

910
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: No. Absolutely. By the way, Sweat, you mentioned him defense

911
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: for the Titans rookie Texas. Really good performance from him,

912
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 1: was encouraged by what I saw at his size to

913
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: be as disruptive as he was as impressive. All right,

914
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: let's get to the other two rookie quarterbacks here. Let's

915
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: start Tampa Washington. So that's a tough ask for Jadan

916
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: Daniels to go up against that Bucks defense. Still found

917
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: a way to make plays. Of all the rookies definitely

918
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: look the best on paper, and I think what he

919
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: did with his legs probably was what stood out the most.

920
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 3: Sixteen carries eighty eight yards and got into the end

921
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 3: zone a couple of times. And yeah, I get it.

922
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 3: Some of that came, you know, a little bit later,

923
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 3: right when the game felt like, you know, the Bucks

924
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 3: were kind of controlling it and dominating it, and they

925
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 3: were really from start to finish in this game, which

926
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 3: was pretty impressive. But yeah, I think there's a lot

927
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 3: of optimism on what Jayden Daniels can be moving forward.

928
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 3: You know, like, look again, I don't think we expect

929
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,720
Speaker 3: Dan Quinn to have a defense that gives up thirty

930
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 3: seven points every week and to have a defense that is,

931
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 3: you know, outmatched in that way. So I feel pretty

932
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 3: good about them figuring that out. Whether that's you know,

933
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 3: middle towards the end of this year, or whether that's

934
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 3: even going into next year right and finding you know,

935
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 3: the players that fit this team. But you know, Jayden again,

936
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 3: I feel like that's a performance that gives you some

937
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 3: optimism here moving forward that even if this offensive line

938
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 3: isn't up to it weekend and week out, he's going

939
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 3: to find a way to make some plays, extend some plays.

940
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 4: I'd like to see him get you know, some of

941
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 4: their playmakers really going.

942
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 3: I mean if Terry McLaurin having two catches in this

943
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 3: game is not how.

944
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 4: You're going to win football games.

945
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 3: You know, Austin Eckler was the leading receiver, and look,

946
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 3: we know the two running backs is the leading receivers.

947
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 3: I think that paints a picture of what this thing

948
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 3: looked like downfield. For Jade Daniels in this.

949
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: Game, I just knew. I don't think they thought they

950
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: could run the ball in this game, you know, with

951
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: their backs when you look at just the touches, I mean,

952
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: the running backs combined for fourteen touches on the ground

953
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: fourteen carries, and Jayden has sixteen. So they just didn't

954
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: think they could run into the teeth of this defense.

955
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:40,959
Speaker 1: And that's one of the things I've said about Jayden

956
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: going into the shar Look, I drafted him up, he

957
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: starts on my fantasy team because I think they're going

958
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: to ride him, as Charles Davids would say, like seabiscuit here,

959
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: because he is going to carry this offense with his

960
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: arm man with his like now, I'm concerned about him

961
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: holding up long. You know, over a long season with

962
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: this type of share of the offense, they're going to

963
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,240
Speaker 1: have to be able to run the ball with their backs.

964
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: But I think in this specific game, just knowing the

965
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: front they were going up against and how well they

966
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: are against the run, I think they almost just abandoned

967
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: that early. So that'll be something to keep an eye

968
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,720
Speaker 1: on for his long term future and long term success.

969
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: That's too much, that's too much on him. He doesn't

970
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: need to carry the ball that many times. All right,

971
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 1: Seattle bo Nicks against the Denver Broncos.

972
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 3: What you see, Yeah, And look, I think this would

973
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 3: look very familiar to folks who watched a lot of

974
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 3: Bonnicks to college. I mean, ball came out quick on

975
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 3: the majority, but look he made the two interceptions were

976
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 3: one hundred percent on him, right. Those are decisions that

977
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 3: you don't want to make, and one of them ended

978
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 3: up awesome.

979
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 4: An opportunity to get.

980
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 3: At least three points, right because they're down there inclose

981
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 3: by the red zone and you like to think you'd

982
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 3: be able to get three points on the board there.

983
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 3: That makes you know a bit of difference here in

984
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 3: a six point game. At the end, Sean Payton said

985
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 3: they need to be better around bo Nicks.

986
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 4: I would agree.

987
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I think that includes, you know,

988
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 3: finding ways to get the ball a little bit further downfield.

989
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 3: I mean, you look at that scatterplot DJ, and it

990
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 3: is a lot of green from five yards behind the

991
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 3: line of scrimmage to five yards past the line of scrimmage.

992
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 3: That's where they were making those throws. In those completions.

993
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 3: He was two for nine. Bo Nix was on throws

994
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 3: beyond ten yards past the line of scrimmage, right, and

995
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 3: one and two of those throws were the interceptions. So

996
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 3: I think you got to find a way to get

997
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 3: some more separation and clear that picture up a little

998
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 3: bit for Bow and to give him some, you know,

999
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 3: the confidence to make those throws down.

1000
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 4: The field a little bit more. Like it's tough.

1001
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 3: If you're gonna get those you're gonna start getting those

1002
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,439
Speaker 3: defenses creeping down pretty hardcore on some of that quick game.

1003
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 3: And so I think you got to back them off

1004
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 3: a little bit and find a little bit of a way.

1005
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 3: And now, look with caution, right, I mean, you're not

1006
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 3: just throw it down field all over the place with

1007
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 3: a rookie quarterback. But I think you got to press

1008
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 3: that defense a little bit more and find some more

1009
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 3: success that way.

1010
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, Courtlin Sutton's got to be a bigger part of

1011
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: this thing, man Like, You've got to find a way

1012
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: to get him more involved. And he's somebody who can

1013
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: do it down the field as well. So I'll be

1014
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: keeping an eye on that. By the way, on the

1015
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, for Seattle, boy A Mafe

1016
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 1: was awesome. He had a ton of pressures. They're a defense.

1017
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: It's gonna live off nickel Blitz as well. I'm a

1018
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: huge Witherspoon guy. He's one of my favorite guys I've

1019
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 1: evaluated over the last handful of years, and you saw

1020
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 1: what he's done early in his career. They blissed him

1021
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: a bunch. I saw it in the preseason as well.

1022
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: He looks like Antoine Winfield senior, not junior, who's been

1023
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 1: a step in Tampa Bay. But if you remember Antoine Winfield,

1024
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: how he used to blitz off the slot like he

1025
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: Witherspoon is a fun player and a great fit in

1026
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: this McDonald defense. It felt like an old school approach.

1027
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: They were one of those teams when I talked about

1028
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: same with the Chargers, you know, and same with the

1029
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: way New England won their game. Just kind of an

1030
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: old school we're gonna be really physical, and that's what

1031
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: he's brought there to the Seattle Seahawks, so a good

1032
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: win for them. I do want to hit before we

1033
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: leave this little portion of the show here. We talked

1034
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: to the top about the Panthers and how bad that was.

1035
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk about the first round picks this year.

1036
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: Let's go back and look at one from last year

1037
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: and Bryce Young, I didn't think it could get worse.

1038
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: It got worse. It was bad. I mean it was

1039
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 1: it was bad, and it was last year. The debate

1040
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: was is this Bryce?

1041
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 4: Is this?

1042
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: Is this a Bryce issue? Or is this an environment issue?

1043
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: And they've done their best to improve the environment, and

1044
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: it's still not great in terms of what's around him.

1045
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: But I'm I'm leaning towards after one game, this thing's

1046
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: heading toward it being both RTT that it's it's a

1047
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: shared blame and man, it's there's some pressure. As bad

1048
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 1: as that looked week one, they play the Chargers next week,

1049
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: I'll be out there to see it. But man, and

1050
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: that is not an easy defense he's going to be

1051
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 1: going up against next week. You can argue it's say,

1052
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: more talented defense than the one that just suffocated him.

1053
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: But man, they have got to make a lot of

1054
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 1: improvement quickly or else you were going to have You're

1055
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 1: going to have doubts, not only in amongst your fan

1056
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: base and your city, your entire building is going to

1057
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: have major doubts about where this thing's headed.

1058
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 3: Uh Yeah, And I would just say this, and I'm

1059
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 3: checking one thing here to just to get a sense

1060
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 3: of where this pressure came from.

1061
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, when you got three sacks, like you.

1062
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 3: Were just talking about the pressure that Devin Witherspoon puts

1063
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 3: from the slot.

1064
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 4: Alante Taylor had three sacks coming from the spot. Yeah,

1065
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 4: how does that happen? Like, you've got to see that

1066
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 4: right like a little bit.

1067
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 3: I mean I get it they're gonna catch you every

1068
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 3: now and then, but to have three sacks from the

1069
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 3: slot corner, I mean, look, they're gonna be better up front,

1070
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 3: but you got to understand where the protection is.

1071
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 4: You got to get rid of the football exactly.

1072
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 3: Interception Yeah, I just man, they got to find a

1073
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 3: way to I mean, at this point, are we talking

1074
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 3: about finding the way to limit the ball in his hand,

1075
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 3: like to just to take the ball out of his hands.

1076
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 3: But when we running the football, they were nothing, couldn't

1077
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 3: do anything. It was just as bad. So they got

1078
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 3: a lot of work to do there.

1079
00:45:58,760 --> 00:45:59,399
Speaker 4: I don't know what they.

1080
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: There's a lot of issues there. By the way, Andy Dalton,

1081
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 1: o for one, had a higher pass rating and eventually,

1082
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: I mean the calls are going to come. Andy Dalton

1083
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 1: has accomplished some things in this league. He's led teams

1084
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: to the playoffs, so it's not like you've got nobody

1085
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: to turn to here. So the pressure, yeah, it's going

1086
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: to really crank up these next couple weeks. Are going

1087
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: to be crucial for brace Young and for the Carolina Panthers.

1088
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: One of the fun things to look at when you

1089
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: get through week one is not only looking at the Rookies'

1090
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time talking about those guys, but

1091
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: how about new faces, new places and some of the performances.

1092
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: There were some really good ones. Talked about JK. Dobbins

1093
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: and Joe Mixon, as well as Tefon Diggs a little earlier.

1094
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: But how about the performance by Saquon Barkley going in

1095
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: the division that's got a sting in New York a

1096
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: bucko nine on the ground, three total touchdowns and then

1097
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,479
Speaker 1: this one at the very top of the list, Sam

1098
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: Donald nineteen to twenty four to eight, two touchdowns and

1099
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: a pick overall really efficient. I think he started out

1100
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: fourteen in a row. I mean he was he was

1101
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: rolling and yeah, twelve to twelve he was rolling right

1102
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: out to shoot. So, as someone again card carrying member

1103
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: of the Sam Donald fan club, the way I described

1104
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 1: it was, I feel like it's a you know, it's

1105
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 1: a son that maybe I hoped one day would be

1106
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 1: a doctor, but now I'm just look, I just want

1107
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: you to graduate from the junior college and let's just

1108
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: move out of the house, like, let's get you let's

1109
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: get you going. And I think right now, where that's

1110
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: the steps that we've taken and then we can see

1111
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: what life has for us going forward. But he's in

1112
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 1: a great, great position the three p's. He's got playmakers,

1113
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 1: he's got a play caller, he's got protection. And that's

1114
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: a good That's not a bad Giants, Steve. That's not

1115
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,959
Speaker 1: a good Giants team, but that is not a bad

1116
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: Giants defense that he was playing against, especially upfront with

1117
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,919
Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence and company. So impressive what we saw there

1118
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: from Sam Donald. I won't I won't even force you

1119
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,479
Speaker 1: to jump in on the bandwagon there. We're not taking

1120
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 1: new members currently at the moment.

1121
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 4: Martin, all right, there you go.

1122
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,240
Speaker 1: Atlanta Pittsburgh rehtt takeaway from that game.

1123
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess I was expecting more from the foul offense.

1124
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 3: I really was, And I know the Steelers play good

1125
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 3: defense right with that is something we have come to

1126
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,240
Speaker 3: expect and TJ. Watt is one of the best closers

1127
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 3: in the league. We saw that with the walkoff sack. Essentially,

1128
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 3: Cam Hayward was fantastic in this game, especially at the

1129
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 3: point of attack of the run game.

1130
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 4: But I just I expected.

1131
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 3: More knowing you know, where Zach Robinson has come from,

1132
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 3: you know, as a play caller and his influences. Obviously

1133
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 3: Kirk's ability to operate in an offense like this, and

1134
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 3: then the terrific targets, right, Drake London, Kyle Pitts.

1135
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, Kyle Pits got into the end zone.

1136
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 3: That was only one of you know, I think three

1137
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 3: catches he had on the day. I just like, I

1138
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 3: want more from Drake London. Like, Drake is an incredible talent.

1139
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 3: We talked about his ability to be physical with the

1140
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 3: ball in his hands after the catch. Didn't really have

1141
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 3: a lot of those opportunities. He did not get a

1142
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 3: target or a catch in the second half. Watched all

1143
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,479
Speaker 3: of his routes run. A couple of times. Kurt wanted

1144
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 3: to get to him, but he was either you know,

1145
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 3: didn't really generate enough separation to make Kirk confident to

1146
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 3: get that throw out, or just wasn't out of his

1147
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 3: break or ready when Kirk was ready to.

1148
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 4: Let go of it.

1149
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,479
Speaker 3: Didn't seem to have patience Kirk on this that deeper

1150
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 3: stuff that they were They sent Drake on a couple

1151
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 3: of times could have ended up going London's way, but

1152
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 3: ended up going somewhere else and ended up being fairly successful,

1153
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 3: So can't fault it there. I thought, he you know

1154
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 3: something that may work against him here is he's actually

1155
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 3: a really good physical blocker out in the perimeter when

1156
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 3: they're running some of that quick hitter stuff to Bijon

1157
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 3: kind of helps generate some lanes, so you know, they

1158
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 3: want to get him out there on those types of plays,

1159
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 3: which of course is going to take you down on

1160
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 3: target chair every now and then. They really only connected

1161
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 3: in the quick Gay her Cousins and Drake London. So

1162
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 3: credit to Dante Jackson, to Deshaun Elliott, who I thought

1163
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 3: were really good in the secondary for Pittsburgh speaking of

1164
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 3: new faces and new places and plus they always put

1165
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 3: up some good pressure. But overall I wanted to see

1166
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 3: more from the Falcons offense.

1167
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: I'll flip it over to you. This side justin fields

1168
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 1: did not turn the ball over, which was good to see.

1169
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: And this again, I feel like this has been my theme.

1170
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: I keep hitting it. But that was that was kind

1171
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 1: of the old school approach, right that you can win games,

1172
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 1: don't turn the ball over. Take your opportunities when they're there.

1173
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: It's not gonna a high scoring, high flying affair, but

1174
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: it was efficient Field seventeen to twenty three, a buck

1175
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: fifty six and ran for fifty seven yards. It's just

1176
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: enough when you got a defense like they have, don't

1177
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: turn the ball over. He fumbled one time, they got

1178
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: it back. That's a that's a formula that the Steelers

1179
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: can can win a lot of ball games with. So

1180
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 1: happy for Fields. Again, that's back in his hometown where

1181
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: he grew up, So a great moment for him. We'll

1182
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: see what that means, you know going forward Russell Wilson,

1183
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: you know, with his health, you know, does he just

1184
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: assume that position? I'm not so sure about that. So,

1185
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: you know, really really happy for Justin Field has kind

1186
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: of been through a lot over the last year to

1187
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 1: get that opportunity to cash it in. TJ. Watt is

1188
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 1: a freak show. Nothing's changed from that standpoint. Rookie note,

1189
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: I think I mentioned this to you earlier, but Zach Frazier,

1190
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: the center of the rookie center is really good man.

1191
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: Excellent performance there in his first start. A couple more games,

1192
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 1: real quick, Yes, sir.

1193
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 3: Real quick, real quick, just to paint one last put

1194
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 3: last ball on this. Arthur Smith, offensive coordinator for the Steelers,

1195
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 3: coming back to Atlanta where he got fired as the

1196
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 3: head coach, put up a very Arthur Smith offensive output.

1197
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 3: And how many times did we see that in Atlanta

1198
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 3: when they were in a position to win. But as

1199
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 3: you mentioned, Justin Field's no turnovers, quarterback turns it over,

1200
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 3: add mistake, red zone turnover and they lose those close games. Well,

1201
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,479
Speaker 3: this time Justin Fields helped them win in an Arthur

1202
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 3: Smith type you know, attack on offense.

1203
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 1: That thought was cool. Yeah again, nice homecoming for both

1204
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: him and for Justin Fields. All right, New England Cincinnati Man.

1205
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,720
Speaker 1: An ugly game from Cincinnati standpoint, This is an offense

1206
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow only one hundred and sixty four yards. No

1207
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: T Higgins in this one. But you know New England again,

1208
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 1: same theme, right, muck it up, make it a dirty game,

1209
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 1: physical game, a grimy game, not a lot of scoring,

1210
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: don't screw up. It's like, I feel like that was

1211
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: my theme and this is another example of it with

1212
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: this game.

1213
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 4: That's right, You're absolutely right.

1214
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 3: I mean that fits the bill of what you were

1215
00:51:58,200 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 3: talking about at the top of the show without qu

1216
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 3: and Ramondre Stevenson. You know, essentially, you know, open the

1217
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 3: scoring here and set the tone for the game, right

1218
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 3: open the scoring for the Patriots and for proclude. I

1219
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 3: mean the Bengals didn't score till forty four minutes into

1220
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 3: the game. That's how good this Patriots defense was playing.

1221
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 3: And I know the Bengals have had the yo yo

1222
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 3: with you know, is Higgins gonna play yes, but Chase isn't.

1223
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 3: Is Chase gonna play no, but Higgins is? And then

1224
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 3: it gets flipped again this time, so I know that

1225
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 3: that has taken a toll.

1226
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 4: I would imagine how this offense wants to operate and attack.

1227
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 3: And they missed Joe Mixon today it felt like to

1228
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 3: me too, or on Sunday it did not get a

1229
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 3: lot out of the ground game, didn't run it a

1230
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 3: whole bunch anyway, they were trailing quite a bit. But

1231
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 3: I think, you know, Keon White is one to really

1232
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 3: dig in on here, DJ. You know, big player with

1233
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 3: some positional flexibility that we talked about in the draft process, right,

1234
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 3: not quite an edge rusher, not quite a deep tackle,

1235
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 3: but it's really well in what Girodmeo wants to do.

1236
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 3: It reminds me a lot of Jarvis Green when he

1237
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 3: was back playing.

1238
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 1: You know.

1239
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 4: It's one of those kind of bigger old scowl guys. Yeah.

1240
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 3: For the Patriots, two and a half sacks in this game,

1241
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 3: a physical presence against that Bengals defense.

1242
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 4: Offensively.

1243
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 1: It was a good day for me on kind of

1244
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: statement grades, because Keon White was a statement grade when

1245
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: I did my first top fifty, he was my eighth

1246
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: overall player. Now did not have a good Senior Bowl,

1247
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: get to the whole process. He ended up twenty eighth

1248
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: for me, which is still, you know, higher than where

1249
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: he ended up getting selected. But someone who was a

1250
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: big explosive played really really hard. Those are traits that

1251
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: I thought would translate really well, and it's nice to

1252
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: see after they make the decision to move on from

1253
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: Matt Judon, he takes it and runs with it and

1254
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: it has a really really good game. So excited for

1255
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: Kean White. The other one was Greg Grussou going back

1256
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,760
Speaker 1: to Buffalo, who was one that I kind of pushed

1257
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: my chips and he was He was very disruptive in

1258
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: the job he did in that Buffalo game. So it's

1259
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: always it's always fun. Now there's some other draft president

1260
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:53,760
Speaker 1: where I try to forget about j Grade. I don't remember.

1261
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: I don't remember what it gave him. But you take

1262
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: the wins where you can find him. It's time for

1263
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 1: the money.

1264
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,959
Speaker 2: That game preview presented by Draft Kings Sportsbook this week

1265
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 2: is the Jets at the forty nine Ers. This bread

1266
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 2: is minus four and a half favoring the forty nine Ers.

1267
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 2: The over under is forty three and a half points.

1268
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: All right, we've got one game left here and it

1269
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: is a fun one. It's Aaron Rodgers. He's back New

1270
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: York Jets going to take on forty nine Ers. May

1271
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: maybe just one thought here RTT, like, we're gonna know

1272
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: based off of what who wins this ball game?

1273
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 4: What is it?

1274
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 3: It's whether the you know, Big three for San Francisco

1275
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 3: skip a beat or not. Right, Christian McCaffrey Brandon, I you,

1276
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,879
Speaker 3: Trent Williams, if they are out and running the way

1277
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 3: that we expect them to when they are full go

1278
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 3: and you know the fact that they haven't practiced really

1279
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 3: at all throughout the preseason in training camp, does it matter?

1280
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 3: Maybe not, But if they are full go I don't

1281
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 3: think there's a way in which the forty nine ers

1282
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 3: at home lose this football game. I feel really good

1283
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 3: about the way that they can attack that way, and

1284
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 3: then defensively, well, you know, we'll see, you know, what

1285
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 3: they do against Aaron Rodgers. But I would also keep

1286
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 3: Breese Hall in mind here. I know there's a lot

1287
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 3: of talk about Rogers going back to the Bay. You

1288
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 3: can get draft him and all that, but Brees Hall

1289
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 3: is what's gonna you know, really sounds the alarm bells

1290
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 3: for me when you look at that side of the ball.

1291
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,240
Speaker 1: There haven't been a ton of wins for the Jets

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Speaker 1: since Breese Hall got there. But when you look at

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Speaker 1: big wins that they have had, b Reese Hall is

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Speaker 1: the center of all of it. And Brees Hall is

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Speaker 1: the one who's going to make this thing go. If

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Speaker 1: Breese Hall can get loose a little bit and pop

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Speaker 1: a couple of runs, it's going to scare a safety down.

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Speaker 1: And now you have to deal with Garrett Wilson. Now

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Speaker 1: you can open this offense up a little bit. Now

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Speaker 1: you get the tight ends involved. But if we come

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Speaker 1: out there and Breese Hall is literally running into a

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Speaker 1: brick wall of forty nine ers. Then it's going to

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Speaker 1: be a tough one for Aaron Rodgers. So to me,

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Speaker 1: that is the key to this game. If the Jets

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Speaker 1: are going to win it, I think it goes through

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Speaker 1: Breese Hall, not through Aaron Rodgers. So that's my that's

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Speaker 1: my look on this ball game. It's a tough place, man,

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Speaker 1: It's a tough assignment to go in there against that team,

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Speaker 1: and you're going to test, you know, an offensive line

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Speaker 1: that looks much better for the Jets. You know, then

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Speaker 1: it's been due to injuries the last couple of years.

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Speaker 1: This is as good an offensive one as they've had

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Speaker 1: there in some time. What do they look like against

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Speaker 1: a front like this one? That's a pretty stiff test right.

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Speaker 4: Out the gate, no, no question.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so almost you know, that's that's the part

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Speaker 3: that's gonna be fun to watch, right I mean that

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Speaker 3: physicality piece. It'd be fun to watch, you know, Aaron

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Speaker 3: Rodgers play more than five snaps, I think, and see

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Speaker 3: what this thing, you know, really does look like. We

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Speaker 3: haven't seen him in two years. So there's a lot

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Speaker 3: of intrigue with this one. I'm actually I'm really fired

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Speaker 3: up to get this one rolling. You know and see

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Speaker 3: what we got here on the first Monday night of

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Speaker 3: the season.

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Speaker 1: The Crown is yours. It's been a fun weekend of football.

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Speaker 1: One more to go and.

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Speaker 4: I whisper something back to you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, go ahead, we'll go.

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Speaker 3: Just as a teaser for later in the league to

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Speaker 3: see football might be back.

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Speaker 1: I know they're pretty good. That was on the call.

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Speaker 1: Uh Drew, our producer, has got in my air and

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Speaker 1: said that, uh yeah, Michigan might not be that's what

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Speaker 1: do you think?

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Speaker 4: That's right, that the album might not be.

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Speaker 1: That's a rough one. That's gonna do it for us today,

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Speaker 1: five episodes a week. We've got you covered right here

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Speaker 1: on Move the Sticks.