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Speaker 1: and I'm supposed to fly out tomorrow to LA and

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Speaker 2: I thought I escaped that crap. I'm down south. I

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Speaker 1: Oh that's so cute. Oh sidebar. Welcome to brown Abish

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Speaker 1: and listeners, because as I wonder, I mean, I know

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Speaker 1: you clicked the brown Ambition button, but I always think

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Speaker 1: I feel like we should be like, Hi, my name's

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Speaker 2: We can do that. Hi, my name's Mendy.

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Speaker 1: Choke myself.

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Speaker 2: I changed my last name on Facebook. You did, and

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Speaker 2: not a damn person noticed.

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Speaker 1: Can I emit something terrible? You know, we still have

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Speaker 1: to go pick up our license. I was like, one

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Speaker 2: Wait, pick it up?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know, we're like the worst. And meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: it's not like we got married in Zimbabwe. We got

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Speaker 2: Mean, you know those little like, uh technicalities, those little formalities.

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Speaker 1: I've been such a bad wife lately, but I've definitely

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Speaker 1: Because it's just been so crazy, And so I finally

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Speaker 1: was like, I gave myself three specific chores. So we

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Speaker 2: any other roommate, like you really can't take too much

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Speaker 2: you're not shy about You're not there's no politeness. It's like, really,

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Speaker 1: Like I sometimes take a step back and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: This is like free labor. This is what you're supposed

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Speaker 1: the search arge? It's yours, happily, So I will dance

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'm gonna see. I'm gonna let you

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Speaker 2: Let our steam or you just need some space, No,

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Speaker 2: that's nap time. I need a big house like the

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Speaker 1: Bad so I went to the doctor today. My surgery

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Speaker 2: you might see in incredible returns. Like in the past year,

429
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Speaker 2: my my four to oh one K, which I don't

430
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Speaker 2: do anything fancy with, was up twenty two percent, which

431
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Speaker 2: is in freaking sane, like the markets for just raging

432
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Speaker 2: this year, but like what goes up must come down,

433
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Speaker 2: and I think it's I think this is a time

434
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Speaker 2: when you just remind people that yes, we've had this crazy,

435
00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:40,119
Speaker 2: amazing bull market and your stocks are doing great, but

436
00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,800
Speaker 2: there's gonna be probably a correction, like socks are probably

437
00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,840
Speaker 2: going to go down. But the point of the key

438
00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,480
Speaker 2: here is to remember, so long as you're well diversified

439
00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,800
Speaker 2: in your investments, it's better to just don't do anything, like,

440
00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,440
Speaker 2: don't freak out, don't try to fiddle with things, don't

441
00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,200
Speaker 2: try to sell everything. If you're investing for like I'm

442
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,479
Speaker 2: a retirement investor, like I'm I'm investing for the long term.

443
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,119
Speaker 2: And again and again, it's like experts say, just don't

444
00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,919
Speaker 2: do anything, like research has shown and they've actually done this.

445
00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,760
Speaker 2: They've gone back and looked at studies of investors like

446
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,440
Speaker 2: four to one K investors who sold during the recession,

447
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,880
Speaker 2: and they have done worse than people who just stayed

448
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 2: and rowed, just rode the wave. That's just what the

449
00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,959
Speaker 2: market does. It goes up, it goes down, it goes up,

450
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,920
Speaker 2: it goes down. That's just it's always going to happen

451
00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,640
Speaker 2: that way, So don't be too freaked out by the headlines.

452
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 2: This is just is this is honestly just what everyone's

453
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,680
Speaker 2: been expecting for a while, and who knows, it could

454
00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 2: be back up tomorrow, but I just thought I would

455
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,159
Speaker 2: give that little public service announcement.

456
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Speaker 1: No, it is hard, especially if you're checking, like you said,

457
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 1: every single day, so they really kind of tell you

458
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Speaker 1: not to, especially if you're now if you're a trading right,

459
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Speaker 1: So yeah, difference, I know. So trading is kind of

460
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Speaker 1: like when you literally trade, you go in, you go out,

461
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,800
Speaker 1: you go in, you go out. But if you're investing,

462
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,440
Speaker 1: like Mandy said, for long term, then you know the

463
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,400
Speaker 1: ups and the downs are part of the overall growth,

464
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Speaker 1: you know, and so you just kind of like, okay,

465
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Speaker 1: I know that in the end, I mean, unless you're

466
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Speaker 1: like retiring tomorrow, I should be in a better position.

467
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Speaker 2: Well, if you are retiring tomorrow, like that's that's the thing.

468
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 2: That's the reason that they say, you know, once once

469
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Speaker 2: a year, once every couple of years, if you're younger,

470
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 2: check in and maybe recalibrate your portfolio, like get a

471
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Speaker 2: little bit out of stocks and more into like secure,

472
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Speaker 2: more into safe, safe investments like bonds and CDs and

473
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Speaker 2: things like that. But as you're older, you should be

474
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Speaker 2: shifting in that direction, like less exposed to risk, like

475
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Speaker 2: less stocks and shifting more to safe investments like bonds

476
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Speaker 2: and CDs and things like that. That's so like when

477
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Speaker 2: I have a target date fund. You guys might have

478
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:49,879
Speaker 2: heard of target date funds. This is a type of

479
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 2: investment account that is like it's sort of like a

480
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 2: a pre made a pre made retirement fund for you.

481
00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 2: They've done the asset allocation, and as you ate, they

482
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 2: shift things over the internet. The web, the robots shift

483
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,199
Speaker 2: things over for you, so you don't even have to

484
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,439
Speaker 2: You literally can set it and forget it. So you

485
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Speaker 2: pick a target dat fund that's like tied to your

486
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Speaker 2: retirement year. I think mine's a twenty fifty five, and

487
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 2: I don't have to do anything. As I get older,

488
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 2: it's going to become less risky. And so if there

489
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Speaker 2: were a super like if the market did go down

490
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Speaker 2: when I was older and close to retirement, the aim

491
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Speaker 2: there is that, Okay, I wouldn't be as exposed as

492
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Speaker 2: I am now at thirty, and then I wouldn't feel

493
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 2: that pain of that downturn so much so people who

494
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 2: really felt pain with people who were too heavily exposed,

495
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 2: too close to retirement, and probably we're taking on more

496
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Speaker 2: risk than they should have.

497
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so you have to know that, like it's

498
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 1: important that when you're you're thinking about investments that there

499
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 1: there's more than one way. So where tire people don't

500
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Speaker 1: think about retirement. I'm glad you made that distinction that

501
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Speaker 1: as retirement as an investment, it is so me I

502
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Speaker 1: have too. So like I invest for retirement, which is

503
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 1: the express desire to have a certain amount of money

504
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,439
Speaker 1: by a certain age, but then I also invest specifically

505
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Speaker 1: for wealth, So that's I don't put as much money

506
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 1: toward that, but it's money that you know, I'm a

507
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 1: little bit more risky with, and the express desire for

508
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 1: that money is to grow myself wealth. And so I

509
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: kind of put my investments into two different kind of

510
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 1: like pots like that, where I'm like, okay, I set

511
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Speaker 1: aside a specific amount every single month for retirement, so

512
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Speaker 1: by the time I'm fifty, that's kind of like my age.

513
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Speaker 1: By the time I'm fifty, I'll have a certain amount

514
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Speaker 1: of money. And then for wealth, I'm like Okay, I

515
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: set aside less money, but I'm more risky where I'm like,

516
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Speaker 1: if I lose the money, it won't be detrimental because

517
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Speaker 1: I have my retirement.

518
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 2: Nest egg exactly. It's like you have to ask yourself, like, Okay,

519
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 2: what am I saving for? And then how much time

520
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 2: do I have if you're like for me saving for it.

521
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 2: We've always had our down payment for a house. Honestly,

522
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 2: now we've had it for like two years. Probably should

523
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Speaker 2: have put it in a CD by the time we

524
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Speaker 2: thought we would need it within a year, so that

525
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 2: in savings. But yeah, if we were going to play

526
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 2: with some money to maybe I don't know, go on

527
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 2: a vacation, a big or fifth anniversary trip or something

528
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 2: like that, I wouldn't mind putting that into a little

529
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Speaker 2: investment fund like a little brokerage account and letting it

530
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 2: grow for a while. Yeah, just just just ask yourself

531
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Speaker 2: those questions before and ask yourself, is it the wisest

532
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,120
Speaker 2: decision too? I don't know put my you know, I've

533
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 2: got two years before my kid graduates college. I really

534
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 2: want to gamble their college savings in the market. But

535
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 2: when they're two months old, Yeah, maybe you want to

536
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 2: open up an investment account and be a little riskier

537
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 2: because you got eighteen years to invest for their college. Yeah,

538
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 2: that's the kind of conversation you should be having with

539
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 2: your spouse, with a professional financial advisor, just someone who

540
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 2: can help you line up your goals and then work

541
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Speaker 2: on them.

542
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Speaker 1: Actually, somebody sent me like, just like on ig a store,

543
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: if we can save it for question? But it ties

544
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Speaker 1: in perfectly with this about say put it setting inside

545
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 1: money in your four one K versus paying off debt,

546
00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: so we can maybe.

547
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Speaker 2: Oh I love that question.

548
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 3: M it's a good one.

549
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Speaker 1: Okay, So are you ready to break or boothe break

550
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: or boooo? I already told you where my break is

551
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: going to be. If you want to go first, I

552
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: will certainly welcome it. Or I can go first. It's

553
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 1: a deep one.

554
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 2: Oh I'll go first. I'll go first. I was gonna

555
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 2: I can do. I'm gonna do a pre boost for

556
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 2: my real boost. Unrelated, but I literally spent like I

557
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 2: don't know, half the weekend watching Living Single on Hulu.

558
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 2: I was I posted on our Facebook. I really was

559
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 2: not kidding. My weekend was made. I had no idea

560
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 2: it was coming back that show. I probably watched it

561
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 2: when I was too young to be watching it.

562
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: But wait, it's coming back.

563
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 2: No, it's back. It's on Hulu. Who Okay, two things. One,

564
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 2: it's on Hulu too. Yes, they're talking about revising it

565
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: with the original cast, which I am like losing my

566
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 2: mind over losing it because I mean, yes, Max Attorney

567
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 2: in Law, Yes, yes, Sinclair Overton.

568
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Rage.

569
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Speaker 2: Regine Kyle. I don't even know who the rest of

570
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 2: the cast is. But it's fun to go back and

571
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 2: watch old episodes because you see people like Terrence Howard

572
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 2: was in It's it's so funny. But this show is everything,

573
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 2: and it's just anyway I had. I've had the theme

574
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 2: song in my head all weekend, like.

575
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this was quintessential nineties.

576
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Speaker 2: And not only that, but like, regive it respect because

577
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 2: this show was like the launching pad for other shows

578
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 2: like Friends. I mean this show, this show. Everyone wanted

579
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 2: to repeat what they had with the show, and I

580
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 2: couldn't believe it was just on five seasons.

581
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Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Yeah, I love Queen Lati. You

582
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: know she's from Newark and Newark Flash Rbton like this area,

583
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,719
Speaker 1: and so I believe I think her mom was retired,

584
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: but she she was a teacher at high school I

585
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,360
Speaker 1: believe in Newark for a number of years until she retired.

586
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: So Queen Latifa is like, yeah, she is the Owens.

587
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's my pre boost. Okay, so the nineties

588
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 2: are back. They're like bringing back Roseanne too. I can't

589
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 2: okay too much nineties. So my real boost is so

590
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 2: we all know that after the Golden Globes, the success

591
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 2: of the Golden Globes, everyone was all fired up about

592
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 2: the times Up movement, and then it came out that

593
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 2: Michelle Williams, who walked the red carpet with Tarana Burke,

594
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 2: the founder of the Me Too movement, it came out

595
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 2: that she was paid like one thousand dollars for a

596
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: reshoot of a film, and her co star Mark Wahlberg,

597
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 2: who somehow is the highest paid actor in America, was

598
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 2: paid like a million dollars, yeah, for the same reshoot.

599
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 2: And actually the reshoot the only reason the reshoot happened

600
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 2: is because Kevin Spacey, the actor who a celebrity came

601
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 2: out or an actor came out and said that when

602
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 2: he was a teenager, Kevin Spacey assaulted him and all

603
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 2: these other revelations about Kevin Spacey came out from other

604
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 2: people coming forward, and he was kicked off this movie.

605
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:06,719
Speaker 2: He wasn't kicked He wasn't kicked off the movie. He'd

606
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 2: already done his part in film that the movie was done,

607
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,959
Speaker 2: but the director decided to recast him and then go

608
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 2: back and reshoot his scenes with the different actors. So

609
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 2: Michelle Williams Mark Wahlberg were called in to do those reshoots,

610
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: and then they found it came it got, it got

611
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 2: leaked to the process. Yeah, she was paid one thousand,

612
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 2: and he was paid like.

613
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Speaker 1: One million, like one zero zero zero, like.

614
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 2: Yes, one thousand. So apparently he was on he was

615
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 2: on some special contract that he had negotiated and he

616
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 2: got he just got. He was able to renegotiate. Whereas

617
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 2: she she got the union rate, like if you're an actor,

618
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 2: you're part of sack. She got the union rate for

619
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Speaker 2: But once it leaked, it was I mean, it was

620
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: obviously the timing of it was so ironic. But anyway,

621
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Speaker 2: I h it turns out Mark Wahlberg in the end

622
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 2: decided to donate his salary to I don't know if

623
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 2: it was to the Times that I think it was

624
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 2: to the Times Up movement. He decided he pledged a

625
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 2: million and a half dollars to times Up. I love it, Okay,

626
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 2: this was one way to handle that because it's not

627
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 2: necessarily his fault. It's the people. It's the people on

628
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 2: the other end who are seeing everything. And it's also

629
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 2: like Michelle Williams agent like her agent should probably.

630
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I need you to yeah, get on that. Wow.

631
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I just because when you said a thousand,

632
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: I said, oh, she must me one hundred thousand, which

633
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: is still terrible. A thousand dollars girl, Like I could

634
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: pay you that?

635
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 2: Yeah?

636
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, And how's that a boost again? Oh?

637
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 2: It was a boost for the way Mark Anthony, Mark Anthony,

638
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 2: it was a boost for the way that he handled it.

639
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah, I was like, wait a minute, I got

640
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: lost to the sauce, Like, wait a minute, how is

641
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: that good?

642
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 3: And there's more.

643
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Speaker 2: It's a multi layered boost. Not only are you getting

644
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Speaker 2: a pre boost, you're also getting a multi layered post boost. Okay,

645
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Speaker 2: So other actors who I've worked with, so Woody Allen

646
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Speaker 2: obviously has he has a the Sordid Pass where his

647
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 2: stepdaughter accused him of sexually molesting her, and then everyone

648
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 2: just kind of ignored it, and he's continued to like

649
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: want oscars when I and work with the best of

650
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: the best actors. So finally it seems like people are

651
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Speaker 2: willing to turn their back or at least at least

652
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Speaker 2: acknowledge what happened. So there's some actors who have pledged

653
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Speaker 2: not to work with him, and then a couple who

654
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Speaker 2: recently worked with him have donated their salaries to pro

655
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Speaker 2: women charities, including Times UP.

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Speaker 1: So I saw that someone that Selena Gomez, her mother

657
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Speaker 1: like either tweeted her or ig like was like yeah.

658
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Speaker 1: I told Selena, like, that's not you shouldn't work with him,

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Speaker 1: that you have this show about discrimination toward women, And

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the show was. That Selena is

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Speaker 1: like executive producing whatever, why would you work with him?

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Speaker 1: And like, so her mom not threw her under the bus,

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Speaker 1: but I think someone asked her, why should you go

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Speaker 1: to work with him? She's like Selena, as an adult,

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Speaker 1: it can make her own choices. I told her it

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Speaker 1: wasn't a good idea, but at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: she can make her own choices, and she did. And

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Speaker 1: I don't agree with it. I said, oh, I know,

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Speaker 1: she was.

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Speaker 2: One of the ones who well she yeah, she was

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Speaker 2: one of the ones who said that they were donating

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Speaker 2: to the cause because she had worked with Fordy Allen.

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Speaker 1: Child. There's so much going on. I'm like, oh my gosh.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's good that things. You know, if they say,

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Speaker 1: you know, somebody's grandma's does what what doesn't come out

676
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Speaker 1: and in the wash comes out in the rents, you

677
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Speaker 1: know the yeah. So it's like so eventually, basically you

678
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Speaker 1: know what happens. Eventually you know it's not it can't

679
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: stay a secret forever, basically, and so secrets are being

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Speaker 1: exposed and shared as they ought to be. It's just

681
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Speaker 1: that some days you're just like boom boom boom boom boom.

682
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Speaker 1: So you know what, in honor of your your multi

683
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Speaker 1: layered boost, I'm actually going to do a multi layered break.

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Speaker 2: Oh love it.

685
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Speaker 1: So first break just a little something light to the

686
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: other one's kind of heavy, just hit me. So first

687
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Speaker 1: Break is for folks that always want to meet in

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Speaker 1: person when a phone call is enough? Why why why

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Speaker 1: why why why? So because people will be like, I

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Speaker 1: get it. FaceTime is definitely great, but sometimes people will

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Speaker 1: want to meet, especially like if I know you, I'm like, girl,

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Speaker 1: like we're not strangers, We're not like you know, trying

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Speaker 1: to just didn't know each other and let me meet

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Speaker 1: you sometimes, you know, like I'll have meetings and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: this could have so been a phone call and I

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Speaker 1: could have still been in my ninety.

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Speaker 2: And there's some people You're like, I know you enough already.

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Speaker 1: We don't need Yeah, we don't need to, like like

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Speaker 1: if we're gonna meet, like you know, it doesn't have

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Speaker 1: to be this formal meeting, like you know. So that's

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Speaker 1: a little break. So stop trying to meet with people

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Speaker 1: if you really could have a phone call, because it's

703
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Speaker 1: just a waste because the travel time, they get ready time,

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Speaker 1: Like I prefer to look crazy at home in my

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Speaker 1: target nighty talking to you on the phone and just

706
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Speaker 1: getting down to business. So that's one that's a light

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Speaker 1: break and a heavy break is And I wasn't even

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Speaker 1: gonna mention it, but I'm like, you know what forty

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Speaker 1: five and his remarks on Haiti and African nations, calling

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Speaker 1: them s whole countries, and I was just like, you

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Speaker 1: know what, I'm actually gonna boost Lola Lola, I'm gonna

712
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Speaker 1: say your name wrong and they're gonna take my Ebo card.

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Speaker 1: Ugh he Lola, what is your name? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Oh, they're coming for you.

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Speaker 1: I know they are because they're like word tippany honestly,

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Speaker 1: like she is a is an anchor, Lola Ogunaki, o Gunaki. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I think I said it right, O Gunaki, Lola Ogunaki.

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Speaker 1: She's my girl and she's the host of Entertainment Weekly.

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Speaker 1: But she was recently on CNN and she decided to

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Speaker 1: talk about these countries that especially because Lola is Nigerian

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Speaker 1: like myself, and she was like, let me give you

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Speaker 1: some stats about this whole country that the president is

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Speaker 1: describing that you know, like the stats on level of

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Speaker 1: education and what they bring. One thing she said that

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Speaker 1: was thought that was like WHOA. I didn't realize that

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Speaker 1: she was like that Nigerians. That's one of the countries

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Speaker 1: that the President said that why are these people coming here?

728
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Speaker 1: That we have people like Norway instead coming here, which

729
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Speaker 1: basically means why are black and brown people coming here?

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Speaker 1: We much rather have white people, which is like, that's

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Speaker 1: the definition of racist. Although forty five, will you know

732
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Speaker 1: he's the least racist person ever but you know whatever,

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Speaker 1: And so she had a stat where she said, Nigerians

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Speaker 1: make up less than one percent of the African American

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Speaker 1: population here in America, of the black population here in America,

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Speaker 1: but make up like twenty five percent of those like

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Speaker 1: in college or uh. And so basically you're saying like

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Speaker 1: that this is a country that like's yielding like terrible people,

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Speaker 1: and the numbers say that's a lie. And you know

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Speaker 1: it just I said I wasn't gonna give energy to

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Speaker 1: it because honestly, I've been overwhelmed enough and I just

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Speaker 1: I just don't get it, Like is this a dream? No,

743
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Speaker 1: a nic just like, what is really actually happening in

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Speaker 1: like the United States of America? That is this a

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Speaker 1: real person? Is this really being said? Is he's telling

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Speaker 1: like another nation? Well, my my my buttons? You know,

747
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Speaker 1: my nuclear button is bigger than yours. I just who

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Speaker 1: does that? Are you five? Are you? Are you in

749
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Speaker 1: middle school? I just And then to see people steel

750
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Speaker 1: like championing him, I'm like, I don't. I don't know

751
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 1: if you realize that if nuclear work comes, you're gonna die?

752
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: Are you crazy?

753
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: I just oh, child? So that's my break, a break

755
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: from his I just wish somebody would turn his mic off,

756
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: turn his mic off. It turns it turned away.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's got it for at least another three years.

758
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm bless something. But you know, I will

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Speaker 2: say we I posted this on the group there's you know,

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Speaker 2: people were, like you said, you didn't want to give

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Speaker 2: voice to it, but a lot of people were taking

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Speaker 2: an opportunity to post about themselves, like I'm from a

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Speaker 2: shithole country and here's I have three degrees, I speak

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Speaker 2: four languages, I'm a future doctor. You know, it's been

765
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Speaker 2: it's that was beautiful, see, because you know it's not true,

766
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 2: Like we know it's anyone who has been exposed to

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Speaker 2: anyone from a foreign country who's immigrated to the United

768
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Speaker 2: States and made a life here. You know that these

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Speaker 2: are the most ambitious, the most proud Americans there can be,

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Speaker 2: the most people who will not squander the privileges that

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Speaker 2: they have here. And you know what, you know what,

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Speaker 2: why not give them? Why not give them an excuse

773
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Speaker 2: to shout, to show people, to remind people who they

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Speaker 2: are and that they're here and what they're doing. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's it's really sad. I'll tell you that Friday, like

776
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 2: the news came out earlier last week, and then Friday,

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Speaker 2: I had already had tickets to this show on Broadway

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Speaker 2: called Once on This Island, and I knew it took

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Speaker 2: place in islanded the Caribbean, but I just I didn't

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Speaker 2: know it was in Haiti until I got there and

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Speaker 2: sat in my seat and read the notes, and then

782
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 2: the music started, and then I was swept away. And

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Speaker 2: it was a beautiful. It was a beautiful play about

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Speaker 2: family and love. And yes, I poor people in a

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Speaker 2: poor country, but the intersection of poverty and wealth and

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Speaker 2: Haiti and it was it felt like it was meant

787
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Speaker 2: to be that I was there on the week when

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00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 2: he called Haiti and other countries, you know, use that

789
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Speaker 2: word to describe them because it's so clear that they're not.

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Speaker 2: And I'm sorry, I'm sorry to everyone that his words hurt.

791
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 2: But I feel like and and and sadly, he's he's

792
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Speaker 2: he's representative of a lot of like toxic. It's like

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Speaker 2: he's the face of the snake that's been underneath the

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Speaker 2: belly of America for so long. He's there's just a

795
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Speaker 2: face and a mouse to it. Now we have to

796
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Speaker 2: confront it, you know, yeah, you know.

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Speaker 1: It's it's and that's exactly how it feels. It feels

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Speaker 1: like because somebody for so long, brown folks have been saying, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so racism still existing, and folks have been telling them,

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Speaker 1: like you have a black president, be quiet, ain't no racism,

801
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: and we're like, yeah, I kind of live in this

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00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 1: brown skin. So I've seen it and it's still here.

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Speaker 1: And so this is kind of like I feel like

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Speaker 1: a lot of people would. Honestly, I'm not super surprised.

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Speaker 1: I'm just surprised at how blatant it is, Like the

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Speaker 1: well it blade it is from the White.

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Speaker 2: House's safe enough to say it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah that and then to say it's a lie.

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Speaker 1: I didn't say that. I just you know what, I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna go back to my happy place, which is

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Speaker 1: making dinner, doing laundry, and you know, unfortunately going food shopping,

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Speaker 1: and then I just but just.

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Speaker 2: Your very presence and your success is exactly the answer

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Speaker 2: to him that we need. Do you know of your life,

815
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Speaker 2: because that is the ultimate protest and to.

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Speaker 1: Do like, I mean, the truth is like one of

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Speaker 1: the things that I've been like, I've been kind of

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Speaker 1: uh like slow rolling on is I've been wanting to

819
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Speaker 1: start like a foundation, and I was just like, oh,

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Speaker 1: there's just so many ins and outs, and but then

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Speaker 1: I told myself, you know, now, more than ever, I

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Speaker 1: want to start a foundation where myself and you know,

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Speaker 1: the Dream Catchers, that we donate money to it every

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Speaker 1: single year and they collectively decide what to do with it.

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Speaker 1: I would love half of the money to go to

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Speaker 1: other nonprofits that are doing amazing work for girls, for

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Speaker 1: girls and women that I specifically want to focus on

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Speaker 1: women and girls are kids, and so like we would

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Speaker 1: vote every year to be like, okay, so who are

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Speaker 1: we giving half this money to the Girl Scouts? This

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Speaker 1: that okay, that's great, And then the other has to

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Speaker 1: be set up like a scholarship program, and maybe we

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Speaker 1: would pick one specific goal. So maybe the first year

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Speaker 1: the scholarship program is for Dreamcatchers who can't afford daycare

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Speaker 1: and they can apply to get help to help supplement

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Speaker 1: the cost of daycare. And like having like a team

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Speaker 1: in place to help, you know, vet and make sure

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Speaker 1: and then pay in the daycare. So that's like my

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Speaker 1: one of my goals. And I feel like, you know,

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Speaker 1: one of the reasons why I don't like to give

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00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: too much energy to like this, and you know his

842
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 1: poison is that I so much much rather to put

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Speaker 1: my energy toward creating something like that the Live Richer Foundation,

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Speaker 1: where it's like, Okay, what actual change can I move

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Speaker 1: to needle? How can I move the needle forward for

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Speaker 1: us as a community. And so that's like one of

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Speaker 1: my and I've I've been speaking it out loud because

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Speaker 1: dream Catchers are bossy and I know if I say it,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be on me, which I need because I'm like,

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Speaker 1: no more excuses like well, I don't know how to

851
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Speaker 1: start a foundation and I don't know how to. But

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Speaker 1: a friend of mine, she's like, well, girl, that's what

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Speaker 1: I do. I help foundations get set up. I will

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Speaker 1: help you. I'll help you get the board together and

855
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Speaker 1: what you need. And you don't have to do everything

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Speaker 1: all in one year. We could just get the found

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Speaker 1: the framework set up for this year, and in twenty

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Speaker 1: nineteen we can raise funds, and in twenty twenty we

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Speaker 1: could give away funds. It doesn't have to be just

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Speaker 1: like undertaking that you have in like six months. But

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Speaker 1: so I'm just putting it out there because I want

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Speaker 1: to do something that is not just about acknowledging what's wrong,

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Speaker 1: but do something that's actually going to help make what

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Speaker 1: I want to see what's right, and not just what

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Speaker 1: I want to see what's right, but collectively what we

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Speaker 1: want to see make that right.

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Speaker 2: You know, absolutely what better day to talk about this

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Speaker 2: to you in the day after MLK the MLK holiday. Yes,

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Speaker 2: this is the time, and I agree. I'm gonna my

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Speaker 2: my One of my resolutions is to get involved in

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Speaker 2: my local politics. My excuse has always been, you know,

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Speaker 2: because I've moved so much, I'm like, oh, well, I

873
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Speaker 2: don't really don't feel like I have roots anywhere. But

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of done making that excuse. I'm just gonna

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Speaker 2: get involved. Jersey City has a great local a c

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Speaker 2: l U group. There's little things I can do that

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Speaker 2: I feel like. You know, I was so much more

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Speaker 2: involved when I was in college, and now when I

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Speaker 2: actually have more resources to give to a cause, it

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Speaker 2: feels like I've I haven't been. So there's yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Want to hear what they dream dream. I would like

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Speaker 1: Brown Ambition listeners have to say. I would love if

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Speaker 1: you would tweet us at what do We b A podcast?

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Speaker 2: The BA podcast at the BA Podcast on Twitter, yep, yep.

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Speaker 1: Tweet us at the BA podcast or right on our

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Speaker 1: Facebook wall, Brown Ambition and just let us know, like

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Speaker 1: what what what Brown boost will you do to make

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Speaker 1: a difference? You know, so we could focus on bringing

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Speaker 1: like the good positive energy forward.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to know, give us something to boost y'all.

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Speaker 2: We're struggling here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, please, you know what we can include you as

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Speaker 1: a win that would be awesome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Every week it's like, let me shovel through this

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Speaker 2: crap first, Well.

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Speaker 1: Chat all right, questions, I don't know if you I

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Speaker 1: have my question. We can take two of them if

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Speaker 1: you want. But I can pull out the question that

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Speaker 1: the young woman wrote me that I thought was in

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Speaker 1: alignment with what we talked about earlier.

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Speaker 2: No, let's let's do it. And this is a good

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Speaker 2: chance to remind you guys, because the inbox is getting

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Speaker 2: a little thin. I know y'all have some questions. Please

904
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Speaker 2: get us up at Brown Ambition podcast dot com. You

905
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 2: can click to Ask us anything tabs to send us

906
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 2: a question, or you can hit us up directly at

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Speaker 2: Brown Ambition Podcast at gmail dot com. We get a

908
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Speaker 2: lot of notes where people are like we love the show.

909
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Speaker 2: We just want to say we don't have a question.

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00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 2: That's awesome. But what you can also do is leave

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00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 2: those reviews online on iTunes. That would be amazing. It's

912
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Speaker 2: so much more impactful when you don't just share with us,

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Speaker 2: but you share with everybody. So we love those notes.

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Speaker 2: But if you could also copy and paste them into iTunes,

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Speaker 2: that would be lovely. Yes, all right, so let's do Yeah,

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Speaker 2: let's hear your question.

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Speaker 1: All right. So this is the young girl on Instagram,

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Speaker 1: and she said, on the topic of because I today

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Speaker 1: for the Live Riachure Challenge the Networth edition, we talked

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Speaker 1: about and putting money in your your IRA roth IRA

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Speaker 1: or four one k. So she said, By the way,

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Speaker 1: a topic that comes up for many regarding for one

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Speaker 1: K that even I get shaky on is how does

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Speaker 1: it make sense to save money into a four one

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Speaker 1: K when I have outstanding credit card debt and student

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Speaker 1: loan debt? Should I be taking whatever I save and

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Speaker 1: putting it toward debt since the interest is higher than

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Speaker 1: the rate of return I'm getting in my four one

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Speaker 1: K or retirement. I have to face this all the

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Speaker 1: time surrounding I don't know. She says, surrounding myself with

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Speaker 1: folks that say pay yourself first, that it's important. Okay, Well, anyway,

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Speaker 1: that's basically what she's asking. There's a lot of other

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Speaker 1: stuff in here. I'm like, what she's talking about, basically,

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Speaker 1: should should she put money? Should she continue to put

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Speaker 1: money in her retirement account which she has a four

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Speaker 1: to one K, or should she just say stop and

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Speaker 1: put her money towards paying down the debt? Because it's like, ah,

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Speaker 1: what should I do?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a lot of people are in that position.

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Speaker 2: There's no black and white answer, but I think the

941
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Speaker 2: question itself is really smart, and she's right. If you

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Speaker 2: have a twenty two percent interest rate credit card. I

943
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Speaker 2: have a really good girlfriend. I'm trying to help right now.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to call her out, but she has

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Speaker 2: three credit cards that have over twenty three percent infrastrates APR,

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Speaker 2: and she's been saving ten percent for retirement. And I'm like,

947
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Speaker 2: I salute you for saving for retirement, but I really

948
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Speaker 2: think that your money, you should maybe bring it down

949
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Speaker 2: to five, keep your company match, and put a little

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Speaker 2: bit more towards this credit card debt. Because yeah, I

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Speaker 2: made twenty two percent of my retirement from this year

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Speaker 2: this year, but on average you can only expect, like

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Speaker 2: I don't know, seven to eight percent on a conservatively,

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Speaker 2: which is not going to beat the twenty plus percent

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Speaker 2: that you may be paying on credit cards. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think it's a try if you can to save

957
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Speaker 2: a little bit for retirement, but attack your debt and

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Speaker 2: get it out of the way because it's only going

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Speaker 2: to drag you down.

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Speaker 1: So when Mandy says attack your debt, though, be mindful

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Speaker 1: that she's not talking about typically student loan debt that

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Speaker 1: the interest rate is lower, or your mortgage. It's credit

963
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Speaker 1: card debt tends to be that's the most detrimental debt

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Speaker 1: that grows really quickly. Because what I don't want to

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Speaker 1: see is because I see this, I think Prudential had

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Speaker 1: done this study for like it's called the African American Experience,

967
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Speaker 1: where they asked the African American community, what what are

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Speaker 1: your financial like like your main financial goals and on

969
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Speaker 1: a whole, our main financial goal was to get rid

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Speaker 1: of debt. And then they asked the community at large

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Speaker 1: like they did like you know, like I guess a

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Speaker 1: larger study and the community at large its meaning like

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Speaker 1: non African Americans, their financial general financial goals were to

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Speaker 1: grow wealth. And so my concern is that I find

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Speaker 1: that a lot that especially within this Brown ambition community,

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Speaker 1: that were so debt reduction focused that we forget that

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Speaker 1: you also have to be focused on investing. So I

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Speaker 1: like the fact that you said that, Like, you're right

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Speaker 1: that don't not put money aside for a retirement, but

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Speaker 1: being smart about it because you have to, you know,

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Speaker 1: you have to set aside and especially if your company matches. Definitely,

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Speaker 1: So if your company says if you put up to

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Speaker 1: five percent in your four to one K, we will

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Speaker 1: match you up to five percent, then definitely match it,

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Speaker 1: you know. But but I don't want you shouldn't just

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Speaker 1: be debt focused, but then you also shouldn't just be

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Speaker 1: investment focused that there's a balance there depending on, uh, like,

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Speaker 1: where your debt lies. If if your debt is credit

989
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Speaker 1: card debt, then yes, heavily paid down credit card debt.

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Speaker 1: But if your debt is like student loan mortgage, then

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't forego, like, you know, maxing out my retirement

992
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Speaker 1: account to to pay down my mortgage faster, because one

993
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Speaker 1: it's going to take forever and two you're likely going

994
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Speaker 1: to get a higher rate of return on your on

995
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Speaker 1: your retirement account then your then your mortgage interest rate

996
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Speaker 1: is going to be Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think a common combination we get when we get

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Speaker 2: questions from magnified money readers is student debt and credit

999
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Speaker 2: card debt and retirement. And if it's federal student loan debt,

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Speaker 2: maybe and you have high interest credit card debt, maybe

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Speaker 2: it means okay, for this year, you enrolled income from

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Speaker 2: repayment plan, you get a reduced payment on your student loans,

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Speaker 2: and you can throw more money towards your credit card debt.

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Speaker 2: And then one you're done with your credit card debt,

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Speaker 2: you get out of the income to repayment plan and

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Speaker 2: start attacking your student debt a little bit more. It's

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Speaker 2: like a yeah, it's like a constant balancing act. And

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Speaker 2: while you're doing that, maybe you're only putting it enough

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Speaker 2: to capture your company match to your four one K.

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Speaker 2: And it's a process, you know. I think just the sheer,

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Speaker 2: I think it's a good question to ask, but it's

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Speaker 2: also it can like paralyze you too if you really try,

1013
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Speaker 2: and if you really try to come up with the

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Speaker 2: perfect the perfect balance of saving versus paying down debts

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Speaker 2: when you have so many things kind of cooking. I

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Speaker 2: sort of think it's easier if you order things in

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Speaker 2: priority based on interest rate and also like how they

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Speaker 2: could harm you if you were to let them linger forever.

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Speaker 2: Obviously with your mortgage, you could lose your house. You

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Speaker 2: don't want to do that. Seem to pay your mortgage

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Speaker 2: bill on time, but paying more than your mortgage payment

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Speaker 2: every month, Yes, like Tiffany said, yes, you'll pay it

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Speaker 2: off a little bit fast, but it's not gonna it's

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Speaker 2: not going to be better for you in the long

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Speaker 2: run in terms of the extra costs. Then it would

1026
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Speaker 2: be to put that money towards your credit card debt

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Speaker 2: or even your auto loan debt for that matter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I don't. Loans tend to be higher interest

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Speaker 1: rates than like your mortgage or your student loans and

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Speaker 1: your if you have federal student loans, because private student

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Speaker 1: loans can, those interest rates can be high.

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Speaker 2: Some people don't know either, even what their aprs are.

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Speaker 2: So that's like a really good first step. It's just

1034
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Speaker 2: to sit down. I had my friend do this. I

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Speaker 2: gave her like a spreadsheet just you know, line up

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Speaker 2: your debts, find out the APR and really you can

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Speaker 2: prioritize them that way, very simple. Yeah, anything over the

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Speaker 2: seven percent you might get on average in your four

1039
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 2: one K that should be a priority, a bigger priority anyway.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So hopefully we answered your question. The girl, so

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00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 1: I said, you're on IG I'm going to force you

1042
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: to listen to Brown Ambition. I'm gonna say, hey, girl,

1043
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: here's the link to our website. I need you to

1044
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: listen because I answered your question versus like you know,

1045
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: typing it all up in Instagram DMS. So cool. That's

1046
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 1: how we get listeners, so strong on them. So yeah,

1047
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: you can tweet, you could tweet me and you can.

1048
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Speaker 1: I g be your questions, but I'm not gonna answer back.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say we address that on brann Abission episode three. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm just.

1051
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Speaker 2: Joking, Okay, sometimes I answer back to their emails.

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Speaker 1: I do. It's okay now, I'm just teasing, y'all. We

1053
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Speaker 1: all we enjoyed. The best place to really ask so

1054
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Speaker 1: is to go on to our website brandabis podcast dot

1055
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Speaker 1: com and and then just click ask ask us anything.

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Speaker 1: Is that what it says? Yep mm hmm. That's the

1057
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Speaker 1: best place and ask away. We love answering questions. Honestly,

1058
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Speaker 1: to me, it's one of my favorite parts of the show,

1059
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 1: and we really like to see your growth. And you know,

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Speaker 1: it would be great if we answer the question and

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Speaker 1: you want to give us an update, that would be amazing.

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00:50:53,800 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, it's time for win.

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Speaker 1: Day when I'm not gonna lie. I don't have a

1064
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Speaker 1: win at the top of my head right now. You

1065
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Speaker 1: go first.

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Speaker 2: I will gladly go first, apart from the fact that

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Speaker 2: I'm drinking a nice ice cold beverage out of my

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Speaker 2: Swell bottle, which I believe was Tiffany's win a couple

1069
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 2: months ago.

1070
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love this thing.

1071
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 2: It's okay, I like it. It feels like I'm drinking

1072
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 2: out of a torpedo. I accidentally got the super big

1073
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 2: one that it's really big. I mean, it's great because

1074
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 2: you get twenty four ounces, but I also feel like

1075
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 2: when I carry it around and talk to people, I'm like,

1076
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 2: it's just part of me. I need to take a

1077
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 2: sip out of my torpedo.

1078
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 1: You're gonna.

1079
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is so big you almost like you can

1080
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 2: like step back. I'm taking a swig. Okay, My wind

1081
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 2: was gonna be It's gonna be the I know we

1082
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 2: talked briefly about the the H and M T shirt

1083
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 2: gate from last week, but I saw today this, so okay,

1084
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 2: if you need to be updated. There was an H

1085
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 2: and M T shirt a picture of a I think

1086
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 2: it was a was he Swiss or Swedish as a

1087
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 2: black boy modeling a sweatshirt that has the cutest monkey

1088
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 2: in the jungle written on it, and somehow H and

1089
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 2: M thought that was cool and then publish it. It

1090
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 2: was not cool. There's all this, but all this obviously

1091
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 2: the media has been reporting on it. But then I saw,

1092
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 2: like in South Africa, people have actually protested and H

1093
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 2: and M is shutting down some of its stores. And

1094
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 2: this is my win for the movement. This is my

1095
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 2: win for the resistance, my win for people standing up

1096
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 2: and not and standing up and then and not being

1097
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 2: not getting fatigued because I've I've read some comments on

1098
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 2: some posts about the H and M shirt, like people saying, what's.

1099
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: The big deal?

1100
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 2: Everyone's always making such a big deal about this. It

1101
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 2: happens all the time. Can't we just get over it?

1102
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 2: And the answer is no, you can't get this, can't

1103
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 2: be normal. You know, and it's nice to see people

1104
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 2: who are like standing up for and not letting it

1105
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 2: be normal. So that is my win.

1106
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: Yes, so my win, you know what. I feel like

1107
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start doing wins when I don't have like

1108
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: big general ones. I'd love to like highlight some dope

1109
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: brown ambition esque women that we that we know, you

1110
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 1: know that you guys should know. So this one is

1111
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: going to go to Patrise Colors. If you don't know Patrice,

1112
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 1: she is one third of the founders of the Black

1113
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: Lives Matter movement. So Patrise actually has a book out

1114
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,760
Speaker 1: called When They Call You a Terrorist. It's a memoir

1115
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 1: that she wrote, and it's already doing really well, like

1116
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: in pre orders or whatever. I think it actually is.

1117
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: By today's the first day that it's on sale. You

1118
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: can find it all over Amazon or whatever. But I

1119
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: just want to say congratulations Patrese. It's it's kicking. But

1120
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: last time I checked, it was like number one on

1121
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: some lists on Amazon, which of course that's amazing. And

1122
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,399
Speaker 1: you know the thing is, you know, you hear about

1123
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter matter, and you hear about theirs leaders

1124
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: in the movement, but you don't realize just how much

1125
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: of their life they give up for the movement. Like

1126
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: Patrice has been an activist for a long time, I

1127
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 1: mean high school, she organized things. She's just someone who

1128
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: cares deeply for the community and there's a sacrifice that

1129
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: comes along with it. I was honored to be able

1130
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: to go to Sydney where she on behalf of the

1131
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter Network received a Sydney the Sydney Peace Prize,

1132
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 1: which is super prestigious, and so she receives it on

1133
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: behind of on behalf of Black Lives Matter, and just

1134
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: to see all that it takes and like the death threats,

1135
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 1: honestly and the I mean her life is not always

1136
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes her life is put into jeopardy and

1137
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 1: time away from her family. And patricea' is a mom

1138
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: and all that she does because she truly believes that

1139
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: black lives matter and she puts her life on the

1140
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 1: line to make sure that the world knows that. And

1141
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,280
Speaker 1: so I just want to s a win for you, Patrice.

1142
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: Congratulations on your dope new memoir. When they call you

1143
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: a terrorist, she is one of the funniest, dopest, just

1144
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:12,280
Speaker 1: warmest people that you can ever meet. And I'm fortunate

1145
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 1: in that I know her, but I also know op Open.

1146
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,760
Speaker 1: I always get your last name wrong on OPO's Nigerian

1147
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 1: or is she Nigerian? Yes? Opal was also a co

1148
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: founder of Black Lives Matter. But I just wanted to

1149
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: give Patrice some just a win for your new book

1150
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 1: and for continuing to do the work. You know that

1151
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: we haven't. You know, always done the work, and now

1152
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: you know this. Hopefully this book will take your work

1153
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:37,760
Speaker 1: to the next level.

1154
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 2: I love it when they call you a terrorist, I'm

1155
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,879
Speaker 2: gonna check it out. I just finally finished Jennifer Lewis's

1156
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 2: memoir Amazing, Amazing, best audiobook ever. Go yeah, she's so

1157
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 2: freaking good. It's amazing. It's like going to a one

1158
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 2: woman show in your ears. Okay, Okay, she's saying, she

1159
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 2: just she has the most fascinating life. I love it.

1160
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:03,280
Speaker 2: I'm on a memoir kick. When they call you a terrorist,

1161
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 2: I'm looking at it. Remember when we were gonna do recommendations.

1162
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, we're like the old lady. We're like, oh.

1163
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm only bringing it up because I actually have one.

1164
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 2: I'll forget about it when I don't have one. Okay, No,

1165
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 2: the podcast recommendation so I listened to I love story podcasts,

1166
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 2: like you know, telling a story, and I recently discovered

1167
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 2: this Georgia based podcast. So there's two of them. It's

1168
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 2: true crime, and this documentary filmmaker from Georgia decided he

1169
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 2: was going to go back look at some cold cases

1170
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 2: and try and solve these old cases in Georgia. One

1171
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 2: of them, the first one, which came out last year,

1172
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 2: actually resulted in two arrests in this cold case from

1173
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 2: ten years ago. But the newest one, which actually has

1174
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 2: the racial elements, it's covering the murders of several like

1175
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 2: dozens over thirty black boys in Atlanta during the late

1176
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 2: seventies early eighties, and this was like a serial murder

1177
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 2: case that had never been solved. He just launched a

1178
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 2: new podcast, I think last week, and it's called The

1179
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 2: Atlanta Monster, and I highly recommend it because I'm like

1180
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 2: praying that he has the same kind of success that

1181
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 2: he had with the first season's podcast, because he his

1182
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 2: show basically like the attention that he brings to it,

1183
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 2: it digs up all these new revelations and stuff. So

1184
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 2: I'm really excited because if from Atlanta and you were young,

1185
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 2: like in the eighties. You know about this case because

1186
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 2: it like crippled the city. My dad remembers that it

1187
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 2: crippled the city for so long because yeah, literally snatching

1188
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 2: boys off the street, black boys in particular, at a

1189
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 2: time when Atlanta was too busy to hate quote unquote,

1190
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 2: so really really interesting.

1191
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: Wow, I love this little podcast that could choo choo.

1192
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: You know, we should start putting out a apb out

1193
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,439
Speaker 1: for you. Y'all want to fund a podcast? Yep, y'all

1194
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: want to be a sponsor, palla.

1195
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 3: Apg.

1196
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: We should always put out like a a big at

1197
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: the end, just saying so boxers are always welcome as

1198
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: long as you're in alignment, holla, because you know, we

1199
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: want to keep the podcast going and rolling and we

1200
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: just love being in service to you guys. So you know,

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00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: if you know a friend of a friend of a

1202
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: friend with a dope company that would be in alignment,

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Speaker 1: you know, send us a message at go to brownebish

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1205
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: go out that form and let us know love it.

1206
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I always open to sponsors, you guys. Just you

1207
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 2: know on brand, Yes, not your uncle's liquor store.

1208
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was on brand. You listened to long enough

1209
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 1: to know that, like you know, we're Although I love

1210
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: belly rings, that might not be a good fit for us.

1211
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 2: The nineties are back, but not that back