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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink

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Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing, and today we're gonna break down

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Speaker 1: the reported second round of interviews for the Ravens as

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Speaker 1: well as talk about the other breaking news around the

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Speaker 1: coaching carousel, including reports that Lamar Jackson has his offensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator of choice and other news from around the AFC North.

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Speaker 2: So, Garrett reported second interviews for.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens with Jesse Minter, the defensive coordinator of the Chargers,

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Speaker 1: Joe Brady, the offensive coordinator of the Buffalo Bills, and

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Speaker 1: Anthony Weaver, the defensive coordinator of the Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 2: So those are the only those are the three reported ones.

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Speaker 1: We don't know if there will be more second round

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Speaker 1: interviews with candidates who are still in the playoffs right now.

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Speaker 1: You know, you look at the coaches with the Rams,

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Speaker 1: the Broncos. We don't need to go through the whole

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Speaker 1: list again, but there could be more. As of now,

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Speaker 1: those are the three names that are out there and

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Speaker 1: so obviously they're in the running, right they any of

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Speaker 1: those three guys could get the jobs. So let's just

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Speaker 1: break those each of those coaches down one by one

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Speaker 1: and let's start with this.

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Speaker 3: That's also time stamp this. We're recording this round one

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Speaker 3: fifteenth day afternoon, which news changes often around the time

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Speaker 3: of the year, so by the time you're listening to this,

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Speaker 3: there could be updates and changes here and elsewhere around

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Speaker 3: the league, or additional reports. But I think it is

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Speaker 3: important to keep in mind that things change quickly this

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Speaker 1: Yes, all right, so let's start with Anthony Weaver, a

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Speaker 1: guy that Ravens fans said, well, you know, former defensive

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Speaker 1: then was a defensive line coach as well as assistant

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Speaker 1: or associate head coach under John Harball here in Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: When he didn't get the DC job Zach Orr did.

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Speaker 1: Then Anthony Weaver left for Miami to be the defensive

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Speaker 3: He's also a finalist for head coaching jobs this time

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Speaker 3: around two here it's reportedly in Baltimore and elsewhere. Pittsburgh

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Speaker 3: Steelers also on that list. Anthony Weaver is a guy

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Speaker 3: that I think is there's a lot to like about

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Speaker 3: you want from a coach who's going to fully embrace

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Speaker 3: identity like I think if you're when you talk about

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Speaker 3: this team to be? And the words that like if

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Speaker 3: we're all sitting around the table that are gonna get

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Speaker 3: thrown out are like tough, hard, nos rugged. That is

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Speaker 3: Anthony Weaver. That's who he is as a person. That's

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Speaker 3: so he understands what it means to play in this

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Speaker 3: I else so I think that all that to me

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Speaker 1: When I think of Anthony Weaver, I think leader of

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Speaker 2: I mean he did it.

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Speaker 1: It was a gritty player, and I think that he

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Speaker 1: thing if the coach has connections to John Harball, if

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Speaker 2: John Harball was an excellent head coach.

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Speaker 1: I agreed with the decision that it was time for

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Speaker 1: a fresh voice around here, but like somebody that learned

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Speaker 1: I don't think that fans should see that and be.

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Speaker 2: Like, oh, gosh, roll their eyes or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Grown oh all right, we just you know, Harball's gone

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Speaker 2: To me, that's a check mark in the positive.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I don't think that the Ravens going into

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Speaker 3: this search, I mean, clearly based on the candidates and

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Speaker 3: stupa Shotty was kind of asked this question to a

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Speaker 1: There's other great head coaches that have no these guys

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Speaker 3: Like there's benefit's honestly, Sean Payton.

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Speaker 1: Great head coach. Like you're like, oh, you learn from

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton. Cool check mark in the in the positive.

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Speaker 1: You know, so, but I'm just saying, like somebody that

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Speaker 3: Right, I would agree with you. I think that learning

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Speaker 3: And I think that, like the institutional knowledge piece carries

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Speaker 3: some weight. But Steve Ashotti also did indicate during the

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Speaker 3: the discussion, which are with somebody like speaks the same language,

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Speaker 3: Like that's part of the that's part of the calculation

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Speaker 1: Let's also be honest, watch these head coach introductory press conferences.

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Speaker 1: They say a lot of the same things. We want

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Speaker 1: to be physical, we went up from, we want to

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Speaker 1: and it's like, WHOA, this is a completely different culture.

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Speaker 3: how much you tap into, like we need to change

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Speaker 3: terms of being here previously and coaching Mintor and do

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Speaker 3: Minchuor and Weavers do they very much? And they grew

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Speaker 2: Where is the outsider of the three? Right?

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Speaker 3: And so if you go with someone who's an outsider,

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Speaker 2: I think the signs are coming down regardless.

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Speaker 3: He played here for him as a player. Then he

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Speaker 1: Anthony Weaver is a guy that if you bumped into

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Speaker 1: A good human being to work with. At the same time,

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Speaker 1: a head coach needs to be you know, firm, and

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of hard discussions I have to have

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Speaker 2: He can do that too. So like I just don't want.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it would be fair to Anthony Weaver

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Speaker 3: that exists, Jesse Mintzer being one of them, and so

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Speaker 3: like you, I mean, another someone else with the Ravens

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Speaker 3: interviewed Clint Kubiak as an example of course, Gary Kubiak

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Speaker 3: Chris Shula coaching family. So there's a lot of coach

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Speaker 3: son coach family parallels that exist as well.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 3: So the other one that we want to talk about,

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Speaker 3: who reportedly was in the building on Thursday, Joe Brady,

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Speaker 3: the offensive coordinator of the Buffalo Bills. Currently, his situation

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Speaker 3: in Buffalo is obviously very much up in the air

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Speaker 3: with the Bills firing Sean McDermott. So he's also interviewed

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Speaker 3: for the head coaching job in Buffalo, so potential exists

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Speaker 3: that he stays there, building on what he's done the

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Speaker 3: last two seasons with Josh Allen on that offense, where

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Speaker 3: they've been one of the best offenses in football. But

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Speaker 3: this is different Minster and Weaver defensive coaches. Joe Brady

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Speaker 3: is an offensive coach, and so this is of the

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Speaker 3: three finals that have been reported at this point, he

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Speaker 3: is the one who's the offense of coach and also

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Speaker 3: comes from outside the building, so he's he's kind of

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Speaker 3: in a different path to either of those other two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a guy who you know you talk

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Speaker 1: about maximizing Lamar Jackson. Well, Joe Brady has a track

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Speaker 1: record of maximizing, maximizing Josh Allen another one of the

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Speaker 1: elite quarterbacks in this league. And Josh Allen is coming

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Speaker 1: off an MVP season. He had another great year this year.

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Speaker 1: That's by no coincidence, and I spoke about it on

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Speaker 1: our last episode. I like the innovation that Joe Brady

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Speaker 1: has in his offense and some of the creative plays

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Speaker 1: that he dials.

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Speaker 2: Up in critical situations.

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Speaker 1: I think that that's important when you get into the

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Speaker 1: playoffs in these huge moments, and you're going against other

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Speaker 1: great defensive coaches that, like you got to be able

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Speaker 1: to show him something new, show him something they haven't

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Speaker 1: seen for, and be able to trick them at times,

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Speaker 1: especially in the red zone.

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Speaker 2: And I like that from Joe Brady, and you know,

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Speaker 2: got along well with Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: Seemingly we're not inside the building, but by all account

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Speaker 1: and so I think that if what you're looking for

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Speaker 1: is all right, let's maximize Lamar, let's really get this

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Speaker 1: offense flourishing to another level, take it to another level

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Speaker 1: and rebound from what it was this past season, get

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Speaker 1: closer to what it was in twenty twenty four, then

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Speaker 1: I think Joe Brady could certainly do that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, he's one of those guys that like offensive

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Speaker 3: innovator allowing putting your players in position to succeed and

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Speaker 3: building an offense around your best players where he I

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Speaker 3: mentioned this before on previous podcast, but if you haven't,

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Speaker 3: if you don't know his background, he really came onto

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Speaker 3: the scene back in twenty nineteen when he was the

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Speaker 3: passing game coordinator for LSU and Joe Burrow was the

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Speaker 3: quarterback there. They had Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson and

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Speaker 3: they won the national championship that year. And also everyone

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Speaker 3: was like, whoa this guy, This offense is explosive. They

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Speaker 3: won the national championship. Joe Burrows a number one overall pick.

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Speaker 1: Great players, but they were also like a ridiculous You know,

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Speaker 1: the play caller has something it's always in possible to part, yeah,

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Speaker 1: to say how much is the players?

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Speaker 2: How much is the offensive coordinator? And what he had.

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Speaker 1: Great talents, had great talent in Buffalo, you had Josh Allen, right,

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Speaker 1: but like he's also elevated those players.

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Speaker 3: The other thing too, Like if you go back to

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Speaker 3: at LSU when Joe Burrow was there, Now, Joe Burrow

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Speaker 3: is obviously a great player, but he had just transferred

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Speaker 3: from Ohio State, hadn't played for four years. Brow that like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: we gets to LSU and is explosive and all on,

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Speaker 3: when's the Heisman's number one overall pick and they win

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Speaker 3: the national championship. Like that's his previous coaches direct correct,

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Speaker 3: you know when he was playing at Derby Meyer with

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Speaker 3: for Ohio State. So like, uh, he was able to

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Speaker 3: really elevate uh Burrow and that offense as a whole,

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Speaker 3: and he's on the same thing in Buffalo with Josh

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Speaker 3: Allen and and that unit. And so I think I'm

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Speaker 3: sure if as the Ravens go through the interview process,

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Speaker 3: a big piece of that conversation is going to center

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Speaker 3: around Lamar Jackson and what is your playing for him

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Speaker 3: in this offense and what does it look like schematically connection,

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Speaker 3: what is the plan for Lamar in the offense and

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Speaker 3: whether if he gets a job. I'm sure he's gonna

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Speaker 3: have a great plan for what that's gonna look like

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Speaker 3: with Lamar in this offense, and that would be really

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Speaker 3: interesting to see how he could try to elevate this unit.

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Speaker 2: I also like that the Bills had a really strong

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Speaker 2: running game. They led the league in.

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Speaker 1: Rushing this past season, So it's not just about the

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Speaker 1: quarterback and the passing attack and all that stuff like

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Speaker 1: he brings. He can scheme up a good run game

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Speaker 1: as well and call it that way.

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Speaker 2: So I do like that about him. All right, let's

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Speaker 2: take a break.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, we're going to talk about the

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Speaker 1: reports that Lamar Jackson has found an offensive coordinator that

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Speaker 1: he would like to work with, as well as other

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Speaker 1: reports around the AFC.

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Speaker 3: So as we look around the AFC North and really

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Speaker 3: the league as a whole, Raven's job is one of

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Speaker 3: several that is still open. They having some coaches to

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Speaker 3: come off the market, but the three big ones that

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Speaker 3: are open right now is Baltimore, Buffalo and Pittsburgh and

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Speaker 3: all three are looking for coaches and going through the

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Speaker 3: interview process. Also, of course, here in the AFC North,

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Speaker 3: the Browns are looking as well. One point that this

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Speaker 3: news came out just a little bit before we started

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Speaker 3: recording with Cleveland was that Jesse Minzer was actually scheduled

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Speaker 3: to be one of the finalists there for a second

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Speaker 3: round interview, and he elected not to. He pulled out

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Speaker 3: of the coaching search there so is not continuing the process.

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Speaker 3: According to reports with the Cleveland Browns, Minter has interviewed

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Speaker 3: elsewhere also Steelers Raiders, and so he's been one of

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Speaker 3: the hot names on the circuit. So it seems like

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Speaker 3: he thinks he's probably gonna get one of those head

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Speaker 3: coaching jobs or potentially go back to LA if he didn't.

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Speaker 3: But that news just broke a little bit ago. And

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Speaker 3: then Anthony Weaver has also gone through a second round

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Speaker 3: of interviews with the Pittsburgh Steelers. So both it's very

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Speaker 3: strange to be going through this process where you have

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Speaker 3: we just spent all this time, spend twenty minutes talking

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Speaker 3: about these guys, and now they're also interviewing with your

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Speaker 3: biggest rival. It's strange times.

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Speaker 1: Very odd and the other news, Brian Flores has inked

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Speaker 1: a contract extension to remain the defensive coordinator with the

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings if he doesn't lend a head coaching job.

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Speaker 1: Another similar case to that is Mike McDaniel, who reportedly

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Speaker 1: had an in person interview here in Baltimore and he

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Speaker 1: has reportedly agreed to be the offensive coordinator of the

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers under Jim Harball if he doesn't get

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Speaker 1: a head coaching job. So I can't say that I've

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Speaker 1: seen this in previous years where guys are like locking

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Speaker 1: in coordinator jobs but leaving the asterisks of if I

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Speaker 1: don't get a head coaching job. And maybe that's because

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Speaker 1: this cycle of head coach hiring has been a little

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Speaker 1: bit slower than it feels like in previous years, where

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Speaker 1: like it feels like a race to get these guys oftentimes,

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Speaker 1: and this year you have a number of teams who

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Speaker 1: are kind of, you know, you wonder if, like the

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Speaker 1: Ravens job is one of the early dominoes that needs

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Speaker 1: to fall. Now they're having multiple hirings already. The Miami Dolphins,

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Speaker 1: the Titans, the Giants obviously have all hired head coaching

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Speaker 1: the Falcons and the Falcons with Stefanski. So the Ravens

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Speaker 1: weren't the first dominant that they need to fall, but

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Speaker 1: like they're the best, the best job on the market.

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Speaker 2: So like you just wonder these.

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Speaker 1: Guys basically until they're told you're out of the running,

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Speaker 1: we're not hiring you, or Baltimore hired or somebody else,

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Speaker 1: they're also not going to pull out of something else.

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Speaker 3: Wait, yeah, well, I think it's fascinating that for like

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Speaker 3: Brian Flores, Brian Flores and Mike McDaniel, the Ravens interviewed

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Speaker 3: both of them on the initial round of interviews. Both

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Speaker 3: of them have now seemingly locked up on coordinator opportunities.

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Speaker 2: Flores with with the official that was.

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Speaker 3: Official, the Chargers. According to all reports, McDaniel is going

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Speaker 3: to the Chargers as the offensive coordinator, which if he

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Speaker 3: doesn't if he doesn't land a head coaching job, and

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Speaker 3: so no idea if either of them were still in

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Speaker 3: the mix for the Ravens or if the Ravens have

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Speaker 3: moved on, but it seems like they are at least

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Speaker 3: keeping that door open. The thing that's that's interesting on McDaniel,

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Speaker 3: and we talked about this before he was a lot

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Speaker 3: of teams were curious about getting him as an offense mine, like,

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Speaker 3: he's one of the best offensive mines in football, and

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Speaker 3: I always felt like if you were if you wanted

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Speaker 3: that offense, you were gonna have to make him your

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Speaker 3: head coach most likely, because there's a lot of competition

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Speaker 3: for coordinator, and there's a lot of good jobs that

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Speaker 3: are open for coordinator, And so if the Ravens are

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Speaker 3: interested in him at all as an offensive in his offense,

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Speaker 3: it would have to be, it seems as a head coach.

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Speaker 3: That's what it would have to be. They would have

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Speaker 3: to make him their head coach because again, all reports

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Speaker 3: offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: Correct.

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Speaker 1: The other report that's out there right now is that

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson favors Cliff Kingsbury to lead the Ravens offense.

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Speaker 1: This comes from the athletics Diana Rossini, who says, quote,

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Speaker 1: I know for a fact that Lamar Jackson and those

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Speaker 1: receivers would like Cliff Kingsbury to run their offense. They've

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Speaker 1: shown support, They've been vocal about it. She says that

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson has been part of the interviews and that

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Speaker 1: he's via zoom and that he's in touch with the

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Speaker 1: Ravens fit decision makers about what he likes.

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Speaker 2: And so I mean that's a pretty big report.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And as we all heard Steve Bashatti say, you know,

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson will be involved, he will have a lot

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Speaker 1: to say, but he will have no power in making

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Speaker 1: this decision. But with that said, Lamar Jackson carries a

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Speaker 1: lot of weight and what Lamar wants, especially when you're

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Speaker 1: in contract negotiations for a long term.

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Speaker 2: Extension, you listen to that. He's your franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And so if he wants Cliff Kingsbury, that leads me

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Speaker 1: to think that Cliff Kingsbury is going to be added

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Speaker 1: near the top of the list.

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Speaker 3: Well, something with the Ravens talked about during that press

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Speaker 3: conference with Steve Bashatti and Eric Cassa is that you're

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Speaker 3: really hiring three people. You're hiring your head coach, your

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Speaker 3: offense quarter to your defensive court, right special teams as well,

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Speaker 3: but really the it's head coach O c DC. It's

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Speaker 3: really the most critical pieces of that. And so if

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Speaker 3: you're hiring jesse mentor well, what's the plan for offense

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Speaker 3: because he's a defensive guy. If you're hiring Anthony Weaver

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Speaker 3: saying thing, if it's Joe Brady, then you know you're

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Speaker 3: running his offense. And again, the offensive coaches, especially the

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Speaker 3: up and coming ones, seem to be more guys that

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Speaker 3: would call plays, Like we've seen that more and more often.

656
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Speaker 3: Mike McDaniel calls play, Sean mcvayh calls plays. And so

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Speaker 3: if you're going with a defensive coach, then it's really

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Speaker 3: critical for both Lamar and just the team as a whole.

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Speaker 3: Who's that what's the planet offense? Yeah, and based on

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Speaker 3: this report from Diana Russini, Cliff Kingsbury could end up

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Speaker 3: being the guy is an attractive option if the Ravens

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Speaker 3: go that route.

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Speaker 1: And she reports that if the Ravens hired Anthony Weaver

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Speaker 1: as head coach, Kingsbury would likely be his offensive coordinators.

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Speaker 1: So all these guys are coming in and like you said,

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Speaker 1: the Ravens are asking them, what's your staff looks as

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Speaker 1: you are your coordinators, and so they got to come

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Speaker 1: in with a plan. And so if she's reporting that,

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Speaker 1: then seemingly Anthony Weaver that's his plan. It's going to

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Speaker 1: be me and Cliff, and he has some kind of

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Speaker 1: agreement with Cliff that he's gonna be his guy. And

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Speaker 1: there's also been a fair amount of smoke from Peter

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Speaker 1: Schrager of ESPN talking about how much Cliff Kingsbury would

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Speaker 1: love to work with Lamar Jackson. So there's there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of smoke around Cliff Kingsbury and Lamar.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, Cliff Kingsbury, you look back at his career,

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Speaker 3: was the head coach of Texas Tech. Then he ends

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Speaker 3: up getting fired at Texas Tech and then goes to

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Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals working with Kyler Murray. The Cardinals draft

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Speaker 3: Kyler Murray number one overall, and the offense there was

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Speaker 3: hot and cold. They ended up kind of sluggish out

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Speaker 3: of the gate, but then they found their traction and

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Speaker 3: Kyler Murray ended up playing really well, got a huge contract,

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Speaker 3: and then and then it ended up it kind of faltered.

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Speaker 3: Cliff Kingsbury gets fired, spends goes and works for a

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Speaker 3: year in LA in the college game, working on for

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Speaker 3: on USC staff, and then goes to the Commanders, works

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Speaker 3: for two seasons with them, and his now out on

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Speaker 3: the market again. But Jane Daniels working the year last

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Speaker 3: year they went to the NFC Championship, had a monster season.

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Speaker 3: He runs that air raid offense, which I think a

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Speaker 3: lot of people are excited about the possibility of having

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Speaker 3: him dial up plays and game plan and have this

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Speaker 3: explosive potential offense also has When you hear air raid

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Speaker 3: and running gun type offense, you think of like not

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Speaker 3: necessarily a power running game. But he has had success

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Speaker 3: run in the football too. You look at the ranks

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Speaker 3: of his offenses over the course of his career, it's

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Speaker 3: not like the passing game is, so it's not so

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Speaker 3: skewed towards the passing game. Have had successful running quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: with Kyler Murray and Jane Daniels, and then also this

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Speaker 3: big play potential with those guys as well. So that

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Speaker 3: if that reports accurate and Lamar Jackson and this offense,

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Speaker 3: the key pieces of this offense are excited about the

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Speaker 3: possibility of Cliff Kingsbury coming to town. Yeah, I would

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Speaker 3: absolutely think that carries weight.

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Speaker 2: You look at his tracker with quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: You go back to Texas Tech and he was working

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Speaker 1: with Patrick Mahomes, right, So Patrick Mahomes and you go

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Speaker 1: to Kyler Murray, Jane Daniels, you know, these are all guys.

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Speaker 3: The other one you left out was Caleb Williams at.

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Speaker 2: USC and Caleb Boons, right, Kayla Wais.

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Speaker 3: Becomes a number and overall pick and it had won

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Speaker 3: the Heisman Trophy with Cliff working by his side.

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Speaker 2: Right, And so it's a pretty strong track record. And

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Speaker 2: you're talking about mobile.

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Speaker 1: Quarterbacks, homes homes maomes runs too. You don't really put

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Speaker 1: him in that traditional mold, but I mean the guy

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Speaker 1: can make plays with his legs and that often has

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Speaker 1: and so and then of course you look to Lamar, right,

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Speaker 1: So like mobile dual threat quarterbacks, he's has a track

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Speaker 1: record of helping those guys, of maximizing, elevating like.

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Speaker 2: We talked about with Joe Brady, that type of quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: So for Lamar Jackson, I can certainly see how that

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Speaker 1: would be appealing to him. You know, he's worked with

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Speaker 1: these guys that Lamar presumably you know, respects highly and

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Speaker 1: feels like, hey, maybe he can help take me to

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Speaker 1: the next level.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it just I think it's really it goes back

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Speaker 3: to my point that it's you're you want to see

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Speaker 3: kind of the full picture here with these coaches, and

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Speaker 3: one of the things that's been floated out in the

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Speaker 3: media this week in different places is that one school

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Speaker 3: of thought is build up your defense. Just get a

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Speaker 3: great defense, and and then Lamar has been successful with

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Speaker 3: multiple different coordinators and multiple different systems and make hires.

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Speaker 3: But but for first and foremost, get your defense playing

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Speaker 3: at an excellent level. Build up your defense, have a

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Speaker 3: great defense, and then yeah, have an offense. You obviously

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Speaker 3: want a great offense as well, no, no question about that.

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Speaker 2: But the floor for the offense is high when you

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Speaker 2: have I.

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Speaker 3: Think the floor the floor for the offense is high.

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Speaker 3: But it's also the other piece of it too, is

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Speaker 3: like he's done it in multiple different systems, and so

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Speaker 3: you like there's been success with different coordinators in different systems,

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Speaker 3: and and so you want to be able to have

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Speaker 3: a great offense, no question about it. And I think

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Speaker 3: Lamar could be an MVP. Again, I think we all

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Speaker 3: would say that. But if you have a great defense

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Speaker 3: to pair with that, now you're now you're really cooking.

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Speaker 3: And that's a scared and that's what that's what they

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Speaker 3: had twenty three.

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Speaker 2: I am more in that school thought. I'll just be

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Speaker 2: transparent about it.

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Speaker 1: I'm more in that school thought, I want to get

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Speaker 1: the defense back to twenty twenty three levels. I want

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Speaker 1: to get the defense balling again. Yeah, maybe that's just

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Speaker 1: me growing up as Marilyn boy. And I've watched this

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Speaker 1: Ravens defense like to me, Ravens defensive culture like and

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Speaker 1: and to your point, like, I think the offense is

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Speaker 1: always gonna be good with Lamar Jackson under center, could

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Speaker 1: it be better?

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Speaker 2: Of course? Like there there's levels of good. It's always

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Speaker 2: gonna be good.

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Speaker 1: Lamar is gonna give you a chance to win every game.

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Speaker 1: And then and and not just Lamar, you got Derek Henry.

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Speaker 1: You have to say flowers, like build up the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: This offense is gonna be good, right uh and so

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Speaker 1: and I agree that Joe Brady, whether it be Joe

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Speaker 1: or Cliff Kingsbury or any of these other offensive coaches

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Speaker 1: out there, Davis Webb, and there's there's other guys, right

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Speaker 1: they chill haas, all these guys that the Ravens have interviewed,

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Speaker 1: they can all like I want to maximis Lamar and

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Speaker 1: I want a coach that helps him take the next

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Speaker 1: step as he goes into this next window of his

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl window and career.

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Speaker 2: Here with the Ravens, right.

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Speaker 1: But like to me, if you can get a defense

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Speaker 1: that's a top five defense and you pair it with

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson at whatever level he is at, you have

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Speaker 1: a chance to win a lot of games. That is

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Speaker 1: a formula that can win and win big. In my opinion,

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty three Ravens should have been in this

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent, should have been in the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: very well, could have won it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean you look at the DVOA metrics in.

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Speaker 3: The best teams, one of the best teams of all time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so like, give me back to that, give

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Speaker 2: me that in that formula.

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Speaker 3: Well quickly, I'll just mention here, there's there's games this

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Speaker 3: weekend in the championship around. The Ravens have interviewed five

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Speaker 3: coaches who are going to be playing this weekend already,

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Speaker 3: and they also reportedly would like to interview one more.

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Speaker 3: That list includes Davis Webb, quarterbacks coach in Denver, defensive

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Speaker 3: coordinator in Denver, Advance Jo and then also there's a

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Speaker 3: report they want to talk to the special teams coordinator

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Speaker 3: in Denver, Darren Rizzy with the Rams DC Chris Shula

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Speaker 3: passing game cordinator Nate Schieldhouse and then with the Seahawks

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Speaker 3: the offensive coordinator Clint Koopiak.

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Speaker 1: One last thing I want to bring up is, according

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Speaker 1: to a report from the Athletic, the New York Giants

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Speaker 1: and John Harball have requested about two dozen interviews with

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Speaker 1: Ravens coaches and staff members. It goes deep beyond the

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Speaker 1: coaches to potentially bring up to New York. So to me,

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Speaker 1: that illustrates we all, of course knew there was going

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Speaker 1: to be a fair amount of coaching turnover here in

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Speaker 1: Baltimore with the departure of John Harball, but.

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Speaker 2: It runs pretty deep. Two dozen, Yeah, that's a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And so.

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Speaker 2: You know, we rejected the interview for Cliff Brown just

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Speaker 2: so listeners know he ain't ain't going anywhere. He's all Famer. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's staying.

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Speaker 1: But in all seriousness, you know, there are reports that

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Speaker 1: Chris Horton and the Ravens Special teams coordinator, was one

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Speaker 1: of those requests. The Ravens have denied that request. If

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Speaker 1: it's a lateral move, the team is to deny it now,

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Speaker 1: you know, So Chris Horton could stay. The new head

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Speaker 1: coach might have other ideas and and then thus Chris Horton.

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Speaker 2: Would be you know, free to go wherever.

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Speaker 1: But and there's other requests that the Ravens reportedly have

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Speaker 1: also denied for other coaches. So it's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: lot of turnover, and that is of course, you know,

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Speaker 1: we're excited about whoever comes in here and the staff

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Speaker 1: that they hire, but it's just kind of puts in

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Speaker 1: the focus that, man, it's gonna be different around here

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Speaker 1: and your and we're gonna have Ravens North. We got

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Speaker 1: Ravens West out there in La we get Chargers. Now

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have Ravens North in New York.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt. So we'll continue breaking all this down

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Speaker 3: and keep you updated with everything all the breaking news,

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Speaker 3: So stay tuned for more to come. You're listening to

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Speaker 3: the Lounge, you can email us at the Lounge at

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