1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: I caught my wife with her coworker, and she says 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: it's my fault. But what she said next made me 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: believe her. 4 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 2: We have seen some i mean world Olympic gold medal 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: mind gymnastics on this show. Like we've seen people do 6 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 2: back to look. 7 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: To their nastics every day everyhow this I mean, I'm 8 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: lost for words right now, Like you know those talnovelas, right, okay, 9 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: that level of what Yeah, And it's broken up into 10 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: sections and each section is more beautiful than the last. 11 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: Really my beautiful? Do you mean like utterly devastating? Yeah, 12 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: of course that's what I mean. This is of course 13 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: all right. So like the first like part of the 14 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: this is multiple posts. So the first part of the 15 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: post is about sharing interests. That's the title. It's like 16 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: sharing interests, sharing interests, and it's it's in relationship advice right. 17 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: And also these are like scattered around like this guy 18 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: like actually reddits and so all these are scattered through 19 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: different subreddits. Oh so somebody pieced them to Yeah, yeah, 20 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: this is best of readit or updates. So shee this 21 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: guy's life together as it's falling apart. 22 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 3: Wow, that's impressive. 23 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: Right. The wife and I have been married for three 24 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: beautiful years. Problem is, she doesn't enjoy my hobbies as 25 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: much as I do. The Missus used to happily join 26 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: me on adventures, which's camp in, fishing, you know, the 27 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: outdoors and stuff. Get outdoorsman over here. Now she won't 28 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: so much as go on a single hike with me. 29 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 3: Wow. 30 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: We have a seven year old and since the kiddo, 31 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: these adventures have been a little tough to plan and 32 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: fall through with, which I understand, but it's hard on me. 33 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: I like to get out at least once a week 34 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: to clear my mind, but it's been reduced to once 35 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: a month, and she's upset every time I just leave 36 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: on a little quick trip to the rockies because I'm 37 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: not helping enough with the kid. I've told her numerous 38 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: times they should both come, but she never agrees, as 39 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: she quote no longer enjoys those type of things. Should 40 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: I give up on the sites I love to see 41 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: and adventures I can't help but indulge in. I do 42 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: want to be there for my family, but I can't 43 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: cut these things out of my life forever. But that's 44 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: what she expects of me. Any advice? Okay, So first first. 45 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 3: That's the first. That's the first. That's the setup. 46 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: That's the setup. 47 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 3: What do you think probably. 48 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: Coming together and being like all right, both sides need 49 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: to give in a little bit. Like maybe he is 50 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 2: maybe his little excursions are actually like longer than he says. 51 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: Maybe he can like cut back down a little bit, 52 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: and maybe it's like, hey, can we just can we 53 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 2: go like do something that you maybe go hike together, 54 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: a hike and that like a simple hike and then 55 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 2: we go to a place you like or go out 56 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 2: to dinner where you. 57 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: Like or something like that. 58 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: You know, interesting that you say that. 59 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 60 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: So Op is asked how often his wife gets to 61 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: leave without the kid right right, which he responds to 62 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: she has girls weekend slash nights out around once a 63 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,399 Speaker 1: week to every other week. She just doesn't like going 64 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: camping anymore. And she definitely doesn't like me camping either. 65 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: She ver sure does most of the hard work with 66 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: our child. Is is I have a job, and I greatly 67 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: appreciate her for it. And when she goes out with 68 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: the ladies, I'm there for the kidd Ow she needs 69 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: a break, I'm there too. It's no problem. I just 70 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: want the camp mores all Man just wants to camp. 71 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 3: The man just wants to gain. 72 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: She wants to camp with his wife and his Kiddoh, 73 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: you know, nothing wrong with that, Nothing wrong with nothing wrong. Update. 74 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: So that was May thirty first June twenty ninth. Great news. 75 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: The wife agreed that I could do some father son 76 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: bonding with the kiddo. 77 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 3: Amazing. 78 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: My wife doesn't like camping yourself at all anymore and 79 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: doesn't even appreciate our kid and I going. This is 80 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: a big hobby for me, and I want to share 81 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: it with my son. Usually we argue a lot about 82 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: these trips, especially if I request to bring our child, 83 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: but this time she's oddly cooperative about the whole thing. Interesting, 84 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: but she still insisted she wouldn't join us. I was surprised, 85 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: but didn't question anything because I was so excited that 86 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: she finally was allowing us to go, and I didn't 87 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: want her to change her mind. Seems like we finally 88 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: found some calmon ground and the arguments are ending. Seems 89 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: like it update. Let's see, let's see I was wrong. 90 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: We had a great trip and returned back on Monday. 91 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: I expected to come home to an empty house, as 92 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: my wife should have been at her office for a 93 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: few more hours. Right, I walked the kid to his 94 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: room as he was exhausted and ready for an OPHI 95 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: they've been hiking. After I walked into our bedroom to 96 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: find a naked man in my bed. I recognized him ah, 97 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: as he was my wife's coworker, whom I have met 98 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: numerous times at work functions. 99 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 100 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 1: At first I was in disbelief. Was I even in 101 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: the right house. 102 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: I love how that's where his mind goes, like, am 103 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: I just walked into my sy I'm sorry. 104 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: I let me explain to get my son out of here. 105 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 3: Your kids better get the hell out of here. 106 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: But then by suspicions were confirmed when my wife walked 107 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: out of her bedroom, also nudy AH, and I had 108 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: no more doubts. She looked petrified when she saw me, 109 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: and I have never been so angry. I yelled at 110 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: they need to get out of my house so I 111 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: could speak to my wife in private. He grabbed his 112 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: clothes and left, and then we started arguing. I never 113 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: yell at my wife. We always want to keep things 114 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: civil for a son. But I was so hurt. I 115 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: was screaming. Then my wife decides to get defensive, saying 116 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: it's not her fault that I'm barely around and camps 117 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: all night, even though I hardly go on trips anymore, 118 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: because she doesn't like it. She says, that's what drove 119 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: me to do this, your neglect to this family. I 120 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: was in tears at this point. I just don't understand 121 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: how her cheating could be my fault. When I turned 122 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: around to leave, my son was standing in the doorway. 123 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: I felt terrible for yellow. I quickly consoled him, but 124 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: my wife snapped at me again, telling me to get 125 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: my hands off him. Excuse me, I know what, Excuse me. 126 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: I'm just imagining she's doing this. It's like all while 127 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: she's naked and the guy's like like the coworkers, like 128 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: putting on his pants like that. Maybe it's getting me 129 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: a little you know, feisty. 130 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of like this, Timmy, who's your friend? God? 131 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: Now she won't speak to me and says I can't 132 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: see my child until I apologize, apologize for what she said. 133 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: We could go on the trip. She planned to cheat 134 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: on me, and that's what kills me. Makes me wonder 135 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 1: if she had done this before. I'm stuck staying with 136 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: my parents. Right now, I don't know what to do. 137 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: I want to see my son. 138 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:48,799 Speaker 3: I'm worried. 139 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: I really scared my child, and of course I would 140 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: apologize to him, just not my wife. But maybe it 141 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: is my fault. No update. I'm back home now, decided 142 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: it was best to get here asap. Things are quiet, 143 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: but I'm relieved to be back in the same space 144 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: as my son. Thank you for all the kind words. 145 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: I means so much. Another update. This is July sixth. Okay, 146 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: for the past week I've been working with a lawyer 147 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: to initiate the process of divorces and getting full custody 148 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: of my son. Thank you you, with the exception of 149 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: visitation for now until more is resolved. Things were awkward 150 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: and tense for the first few days of me being 151 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: back home, so my wife, using wife to keep things simple, 152 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: decided to leave to stay with the guy I found 153 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: naked with her. So she's leaving to stay with that dude. 154 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: I'm disappointed at the example she's setting for a son, 155 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: but this makes my decision to divorce even more concrete. Oh, 156 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: I feel so bad for this dude because not only 157 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: did she he catch her in the act, but she's 158 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: like not only no, no, no no, it's your fault 159 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: and I'm running away with the guy that brought saw 160 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: me with. 161 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: You need to apologize. Yeah wow, I mean. 162 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: Update July twenty sixth, my now ex wife revealed that 163 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: she's pregnant with a man she cheated with and no 164 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: longer wants to see our child. 165 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 3: Oh my god, Oh my god. 166 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: Last week I received several texts from my ex saying 167 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,119 Speaker 1: she was pregnant with an unknown man's child, obviously meaning 168 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: she cheated with multiple other people before the one I 169 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:23,119 Speaker 1: found out about. 170 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 3: Oh my. 171 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: She said she plans to keep the baby and start 172 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: a family with her coworker. She also mentioned that she 173 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: would be fighting me for custody of our son, but 174 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: she doesn't want to see him. 175 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 3: What is wrong with this person? 176 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: I told her I would be willing to split the 177 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: custody or at least keep visitation rights for the sake 178 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: of the kiddo, but she insisted she didn't care about 179 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: that anymore. I'm in awe. I'm shocked she's given up 180 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: on everything that our family had, but I most hurt 181 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: for our son. At the end of the day, she 182 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: isn't worth wasting any more of my energy. On I've 183 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: been spending every moment I can with my kid, will 184 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: continue to do so. 185 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: As we as we always say on this show, there 186 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 2: has to have been red flags before. 187 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: It seems the guys like so nice, though, which is 188 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: exemplified by a post heam made four months ago. 189 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 3: Oh no, it keeps going, all right. 190 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: It's in a camping subreddit and it said what are 191 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: the five go to items for long trips? That just 192 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: wants to retreat into the forest. 193 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 3: Oh no. 194 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: And then there's no responses to this except any update 195 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: under divorce. 196 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 197 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: And then he says she was lying about the pregnancy. 198 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 2: Oh my god. I'm like, I'm short circuiting. So she 199 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: lied about the pregnancy with other men? 200 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 3: Yeah for what? Yeah? 201 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: I have no idea. I just feel bad for this 202 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: guy's messiful life. 203 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 2: Like like her logic doesn't even follow, Like she she 204 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 2: doesn't want the kid, then she wants full custody. Then 205 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 2: she says she's pregnant for what reason? To get cussy 206 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 2: of a kids she doesn't even want. 207 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: Bro Wow, I think she just wants to fuck up 208 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: his life. 209 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 3: This woman is crazy. I know. 210 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: I feel so bad. 211 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 3: Is the end of the story. 212 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: That's the end. Man, I just like was like like 213 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: hurting when I when I saw what are the top 214 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: five go to items for longer trips? 215 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 2: Bro who honestly who shout out to whoever like pieced 216 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 2: this together. 217 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: Because it told the story insane. Ope, I hope you're 218 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: doing okay, we. 219 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 3: We we come camp with us. 220 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 1: BROA, Yeah, well camp, We'll be your camping buddies.