1 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: Great, Dallas great and joining us right now. You can 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: listen to him all the time on baseball. 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 2: He's dead. 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: Check out his tweets, he's live tweet and he's doing 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: watch parties, the whole deal. And now he's joining us 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: for fifteen minutes for a old chat. Dallas, great to 7 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: see you, and I'll ask how are you? But also 8 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 1: how much are you enjoying watching some of these starters 9 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: really eat in the postseason this year? 10 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 3: I am doing well, and I have at times had 11 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 3: to almost like quarantine myself off in a closet somewhere 12 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 3: so I can thoroughly just enjoy what I'm watching happen 13 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 3: on the mound, because I got a lot of distractions. 14 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 3: But I look, I deserve it. I think we all 15 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 3: deserve to watch what we are seeing unfold on the 16 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 3: diamond this postseason. And I love the idea that the 17 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 3: starting pitcher is almost circling back and reminding us just 18 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 3: how important it is to have a horse, if not 19 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 3: two or three, that you can run out there and 20 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 3: start the race and finish it as well. I think 21 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 3: if you just look at what we've watched with the Dodgers, 22 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 3: and you look at what we have seen unfold with 23 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 3: the Milwaukee Brewers. You were watching a team I think 24 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 3: in the Brewers who showed up and said, we feel 25 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 3: pretty good about our ability to match up, and you 26 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 3: know what, we'll call them out getters. We've got a 27 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 3: starter or two that we like and we'll label them 28 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 3: as such. But from there, we've got a group of 29 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 3: outgetters and we're gonna get these outs however we can fantastic. 30 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 3: You want to know what the Dodgers did as they 31 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 3: rolled in and said, Hey, look at that. That's a stallion. 32 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 3: That's a stallion. That's a stallion. You know we call that. 33 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 3: We call that a stable. We're gonna open up that door. 34 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 3: We're gonna let the horses run. And our stable of 35 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 3: starters have led the charge. So I think it's just 36 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 3: a great refresher. It's a reminder of what you need 37 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 3: to have happen on the mound and how it's unfolded 38 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 3: on the game's biggest stage under the games of brightest 39 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,559 Speaker 3: lights in October. The starters reign Supreme. 40 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 4: Dedise is it kind of like an analogy with football, 41 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 4: where the running back or the wide receivers bust it 42 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 4: all the way down the field. And then they give 43 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 4: it to the star running back who didn't get any 44 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 4: touches to push it in. Because there's a case where yes, 45 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 4: these relie these starters have been legit and they are 46 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 4: cy Young Si Young contenders all that stuff. But across 47 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 4: the playoffs right now, these bullpens, they're down there like, 48 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 4: oh my gosh, I'm exhausted. Wait a minute, these guys 49 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 4: are getting all the flowers, like we did all the 50 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 4: work for one hundred and sixty two games, and now 51 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,559 Speaker 4: these guys are like, I've only made twenty starts. Beside Yamamoto, 52 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 4: I'm super fresh. So is it a case of we 53 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 4: don't want to go to the bullpen because they're not 54 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 4: as good or because these guys are gassed. 55 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 3: This is the time of year where if you have 56 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 3: a guy who was starting the ballgame for you and 57 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 3: is showing you because both you boys know right, phrase, 58 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 3: come on, what are what are we looking for? There's 59 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 3: two things that are gonna tell us just how things 60 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 3: are going on the mount for us right the baseball 61 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 3: and the other team. If I'm backing up third, guess 62 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 3: how guess how good things are going? 63 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 2: Well? 64 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 3: They ain't going very well, are they? And if the 65 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 3: baseball is not making its way back to you, Kratzy, 66 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 3: well then things aren't going well either, right because you're 67 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 3: no longer a catcher. You're just somebody who's kind of 68 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 3: directing traffic out there. So I think what it is is, 69 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 3: if we're talking about running plays and pushing it across 70 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 3: the goal line, you have guys that are doing their 71 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 3: job and doing their due diligence in a starter's perspective, 72 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 3: and then you also have guys like look at the 73 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 3: Mariner's bullpen who are running, who are doing a great 74 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 3: job of running the tush push when necessary. Guys like 75 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: Bizardo who are coming out and giving you a career 76 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 3: long career career long and innings pitched for long outings 77 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 3: in the postseason at the very end of the season. 78 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 3: So I think what we're seeing is if team, when 79 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 3: teams are doing it right, it's a beautiful concert. It's 80 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 3: a beautiful symphony of the starters and the bullpen working 81 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 3: together in unison. But I think at right now, at 82 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 3: this time, it's we understand how important those bullpen arms 83 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 3: are to us right now and will be to us 84 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 3: in the future here, and we want to do everything 85 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 3: we can to squeeze as much juice as we can 86 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 3: out of the starter if he's allowing us to right 87 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 3: going back to a SNeW going back to a Yamamoto, 88 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 3: when you have a little bit of a cushion, you're 89 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 3: sending this dude back out into the ninth inning with 90 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 3: ninety seven pitches under his belt, not because you're afraid 91 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 3: of what the bullpen can't do, but because you know 92 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 3: what you have just watched unfold for eight innings and 93 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 3: what Yamamoto can do. 94 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 5: All right, So to that point, what does a team 95 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 5: like the Brewers have to do to get back into 96 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 5: this series? What can they do? They're not scoring, so 97 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 5: how do they figure this out? 98 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 3: Afraid? I mean that's where it starts and stops, my dude, 99 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 3: and you know that you got to swing the bat. 100 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 3: We got to figure out how to generate offense. How 101 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 3: do we get on base if it's not going to 102 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 3: be the long ball that's going to propel us. How 103 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 3: do we build innings? How do we make these at 104 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 3: bats competitive? Because I think that's something that has been 105 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 3: taken away from this is that the bats just don't 106 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 3: seem very competitive, and that doesn't seem like outside of 107 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 3: the Churio swing, like, like, what do we what are 108 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 3: we getting? What are we doing? It doesn't seem like 109 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 3: there's much at all Like the I just I go 110 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 3: back to when I'm watching competitive at bats unfold. It 111 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 3: feels like after a pitcher too, you get an idea 112 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 3: of where a guy's going to be able to fight 113 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 3: you off and defend. And then I think what I'm 114 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 3: seeing right now is guys almost cash in at bats. 115 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 3: And it's tough to think that way because this is 116 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 3: a moment in time where if you're the Brewers, you're 117 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 3: a team who just doesn't swing and miss right. You 118 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 3: feel like you're constantly in the fight with your back 119 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 3: to ball ability, but you're just not generating any sort 120 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 3: of threat offensively. And a lot of that credit has 121 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 3: to go to what the pitchers have done, to what 122 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 3: the starters have done. 123 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 4: The Blue Jays Mariners series, What do you like the 124 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 4: most and what do you dislike the most that you've 125 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 4: seen just out of these two games. Not looking forward, I'm. 126 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 3: Not excited about the fact that, I mean, we we 127 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 3: identified a trio in varshow Clement and Vladdie, who were 128 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 3: lights out, who carried the work right, who carried the 129 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 3: water for him, and right now that's just not the case. 130 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 3: And what have they ran into, Well, they have ran 131 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:16,799 Speaker 3: into some guys for the Mariners who they're getting outs 132 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 3: on the mound. Are they not to the tune of 133 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 3: what I was just talking about with the game even 134 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 3: that the bullpen comes in and picks up Gilbert who 135 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 3: came in on short rest, got through what three three 136 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 3: and a third or whatever it was, and the bullpen 137 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 3: comes in and does their job. So every reason that 138 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 3: the Mariners were supposed to be here is unfolding right 139 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 3: now because of the success that they've been able to 140 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 3: have on the mound, combination of the starters and their relievers, 141 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 3: and they're getting just enough offense at just the right time. 142 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 3: It's a team that was propelled largely by the long ball, 143 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 3: but you have guys like Polanco that are starting to 144 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 3: show up and get big hits at just the right time. 145 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 3: And when you have an offense that has guys like Crawford, 146 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 3: guys like Nailor that can start to contribute. When you 147 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 3: have Jay Rod show up and plug himself into the 148 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 3: middle of the lineup and start to produce in the CS, 149 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 3: we're talking Championship Championship Series, and that's where these guys 150 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 3: are starting to show up and reveal themselves. The lineup 151 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: starts to get a longer, so a little longer. So 152 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 3: now you've got out getters on the mound in the 153 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 3: rotation and the bullpen getting the job done. Frankly, not 154 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 3: being able to capitalize on opportunities offensively for the Blue Jays, 155 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 3: That's where the shortcoming is. 156 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: Can I interest you in surf Shark VPN, which allows 157 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: you to mask certain parts of your surfing around the web, 158 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: Or let's say you're somewhere and you're like, I don't 159 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: need this app to know where I am twenty four 160 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: to seven that pops up on your phone all the time. 161 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: Surf Shark can help you out with. 162 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 4: That privacy and protection. 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Keep 175 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: your data safe and take control of your online security 176 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: with surf Shark. 177 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 5: We talked to Tyler Kapner a little bit ago about 178 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 5: cal Rally and how awesome of a season he had. 179 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 5: I want to ask you this question, and I'm putting 180 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 5: you on the spot here a little bit. But MVP 181 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 5: race him book, Judge. 182 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 3: Book, come on book you free book. 183 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 6: Let's go look lookkot me let me say okay, let 184 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 6: me let me ask you. Let me ask you, uh, 185 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 6: what is the hill that you are standing on built 186 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 6: upon when it comes to when it comes to judge. 187 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 5: See, I didn't want to be put on the fut No, 188 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 5: I don't care for me. For me, it's and when 189 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 5: not all people talk about but the average to me 190 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 5: is a big component that is and that's maybe that's 191 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 5: the old school way and me thinking of it. 192 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 3: Hey, I'm with I'm with you when it comes to 193 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 3: respecting that. And because I have an appreciation just like 194 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 3: you do for what it takes to be a guy 195 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 3: who can pound the ball out of any yard, out 196 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 3: of any park, National park or Big League park, it 197 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 3: doesn't matter. And that's who Aaron Judge is. But that 198 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 3: same dude can also be the catalyst to a beginning 199 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 3: by shooting the ball the other way, by picking up 200 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 3: a stake with runners on second and third. He doesn't 201 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 3: have a pitch that he can drive, but he has 202 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 3: a pitch that he can shoot the other way. Those 203 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 3: guys are extremely valuable, and when that individual represents the 204 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 3: most powerful threat that you have and also is representative 205 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 3: of keeping the line moving, that matters. So I am 206 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 3: not somebody who just poo poos the average and says, yeah, 207 00:09:58,400 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 3: but let's take a look at some of the other 208 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 3: numbers here. But I am somebody who absolutely appreciates what 209 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 3: cal Raley physically has to do each and every day. 210 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 3: And I'll put this in perspective for you too. Phrase, 211 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 3: there's not a minute that Aaron Judge shows up to 212 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 3: the ballpark where he's being asked to put his productivity 213 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 3: on the back burner for anybody else on his team. 214 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 3: That is never something that Aaron Judge is being asked 215 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 3: to do. If anything, he's being asked to do more. 216 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 3: Cal Rawley shows up in spring training knowing that his 217 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 3: job is to with kit gloves, handle the starting rotation 218 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 3: and get to know the extension of not only the 219 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 3: big league bullpen, but the tripa a bullpen and starting 220 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 3: rotation as well. That will, without a doubt be a 221 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 3: factor in their pursuit to their first World Series championship 222 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 3: in organization's history. And he will also be the one 223 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 3: who's pressing the PitchCom buttons, who's in the squad for 224 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 3: each and every ball game just about so the demand 225 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 3: physically of the position that is something that I also 226 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 3: factor in as well. And when you have a dude 227 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 3: who is pounding the ball the way that cal rally 228 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 3: is more homers than any switch hitter that the game 229 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 3: has ever seen. He's set in franchise records as well, 230 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 3: all wall steering the pitching staff in the way that 231 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 3: he has. There's a lot of dare I call it 232 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 3: value there, and he might be the most valuable player 233 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 3: when I think about what he brings to the table 234 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 3: on both sides of the ball. 235 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 5: I love to hear it. I gotta be honest, you 236 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 5: kick my butt there. Let me ask you this one question, though, 237 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 5: And I want to see what you're saying. You got 238 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 5: to face this year cal Rally or Aaron Judge fifty times? 239 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 5: Who would you rather face? 240 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 3: I would like to face cal Raleigh fifty times? Please? 241 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 2: Gotcha? 242 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 5: Okay? And how do you think you would fare against 243 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 5: both those guys right now? 244 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 3: Right now? Not great? 245 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 5: In your prime? In your prime? 246 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 3: Sure, I'm probably gonna have a little more success against 247 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 3: a guy like cal Raley just because I feel like 248 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 3: I'm going to have a better opportunity to move the 249 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 3: baseball around on him and beat him to a spot 250 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 3: as opposed to where a guy like Aaron je Should 251 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 3: I even be able to beat him to a spot, 252 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 3: that ball probably gets fought off somewhere. I just think 253 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 3: cal might be a little longer from the right side 254 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 3: and someone that I could maybe crowd a little bit 255 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 3: and just kind of get him in that rocking chair. 256 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 3: That's where I'm gonna have my success against a guy 257 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 3: like him. 258 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 2: You know. 259 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 3: For Judge, that's probably a guy that I I am 260 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 3: going to have to treat like. For me, the count 261 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 3: is three to zero, and I'm trying to get back 262 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 3: into this thing every time, and that is a terrible 263 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 3: way to try to get out. 264 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 4: It feels feels like feels like you're gonna lose on 265 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 4: either one. But I feel good. Good answer there, good 266 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 4: answer that doesn't even argue, doesn't even argue your your 267 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 4: previous point, because Col's more than just the hitter. He's 268 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 4: absolutely what's your favorite what's your favorite postseason moment so 269 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 4: far this year where you're like, man, that was so 270 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 4: cool to watch. 271 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 3: I mean, I I there's no recency bias involved here. 272 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 3: I think it's Yamamoto coming back out for the ninth 273 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 3: inning because the question mark there with the pitch count 274 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 3: and what we were seeing, and this is where the 275 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 3: bias of being a starting pitcher comes into play. And 276 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 3: I want to see these sort of signature moments. I 277 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 3: want to see these hallmark moments for our game's hallmark players. 278 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 3: And this is a guy who just got bredded up 279 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 3: and brought in. And there were question marks even from 280 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 3: some former big leaguers who were going, really signing that 281 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 3: paid check after not he hasn't thrown a pitch here? 282 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 3: Are we sure it's worth it? CG. CS. I think 283 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 3: it's worth it. I think it's worth it, But I 284 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 3: think it also just does a lot more for the 285 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 3: narrative of how strongly I feel about starting pitching and 286 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,119 Speaker 3: what it means to our game, not just in the postseason, 287 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 3: but on the whole in its entirety. 288 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 4: All right, now, I remember back to your perfect game. 289 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 4: I still don't know if you did this or not. 290 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 4: It looked like it like you were celebrating. You kind 291 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 4: of like pounded your chest and it looked like you 292 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 4: looked over and you were like my, like, my bad, 293 00:13:58,280 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 4: Like you didn't want to push it in their face. 294 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 4: Is that true or not true? 295 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 3: One hundred percent true? 296 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 4: Yes, Okay, so that's what I look like. So how 297 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 4: do you feel about teams right now when they finish 298 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 4: a team out dunking on them and hanging on the 299 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 4: rim like some of the teams have so far with 300 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 4: celebrations after the game pointing in their dugout. How do 301 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 4: you feel about that because it feels like it completely 302 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 4: contradicts that moment in history for you and what they're doing. 303 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have always been a big I've always been 304 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 3: a big proponent of trying to elevate the individuals who 305 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 3: are wearing the same color as I am in a 306 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 3: moment like that, And I think from a competitive standpoint, 307 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 3: it's because we've all been on the other end of that, right, 308 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 3: And I think in that moment, the line has been drawn, 309 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 3: the hay is in the barn, this dance is done, 310 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 3: and why would I want to spend any more time 311 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 3: bearing the people or the individual that I just buried, 312 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 3: Like the dirt's on the coffin, that's a done deal. 313 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 3: Like why don't we celebrate? Why don't you know what 314 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 3: I mean? Why don't we enjoy this over here? And 315 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 3: so yeah, I've always like when it comes to Pimp 316 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 3: and the homer, like, my whole thing has always been 317 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 3: you want to make eye contact with me? Well, you 318 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 3: have now made it personal. You have now signed your 319 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 3: name on the dotted line. And at whatever moment that 320 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 3: contract gets called, we'll figure that out later. But you 321 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 3: have signed your name on the dotted line. If you're 322 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 3: not making eye contact and this isn't personal and you're 323 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 3: just pumped, and bro, I'm not so egotistical to not 324 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 3: understand how excited you are in the moment, But you 325 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 3: haven't made this personal for me, So I would then 326 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 3: have to be feeling some sort of way individually, and 327 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 3: I just I don't carry that with me. So when 328 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 3: I see individuals bring in the opponent, like you know, 329 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 3: during the aftermath, and they start to make it about 330 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 3: the I'm just I don't know. I don't know if 331 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 3: it's the era that I grew up in the game. 332 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's the neighborhood that I grew 333 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 3: up in. But those are just lessons that I learned 334 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 3: very early, Like they're You're going to have to pay 335 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 3: that back at some point in time or another. And 336 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 3: maybe that's just because our game no longer allows that, 337 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 3: you know, you no longer get to hold people accountable 338 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 3: for things like that. And I think something else that 339 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 3: we have to remind ourselves of is each and every year, 340 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 3: we're getting closer and closer to what we have referred 341 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 3: to as the travel Ball era, continuing to I don't 342 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 3: want to say infiltrate because it sounds like they're not welcome, 343 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 3: but I think continuing to populate our game at its 344 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 3: highest and most competitive levels. And what we saw unfold 345 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 3: on social media ten fifteen years ago when it came 346 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 3: to celebrating and bat flipping in Literally, why would you 347 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 3: think that that would stop? Now? 348 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, totally, it's not gonna. 349 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 2: No, it's going to keep going. 350 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 3: We're only getting closer to that line. Boys, we're only 351 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 3: getting right, like all all the old heads, we're dying. 352 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 3: We're dying off, meaning we're hanging up the uniform and 353 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 3: we're not on the diamond anymore. And how we look 354 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 3: at it and how we played it. Frankly, nobody cares. 355 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 3: Nobody wants to hear about it anymore, Right, even the 356 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 3: guys that are in those dugouts and in those clubhouses. 357 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 3: I always go back to to Big Poppy being very 358 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 3: public and open about feeling like he wasn't even welcomed 359 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 3: or didn't like nobody even wanted to hear what he 360 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 3: had to say in the spring training complex, Like what what. 361 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 5: Outside of the game. Yeah, and you say it like Kratzy. 362 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 5: He coaches high school. I coach travel ball for younger kids, 363 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 5: and it drives me crazy seeing some of the antics 364 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 5: that they do. I tell my kids, you do something 365 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 5: like that, you're sitting at least one or two innings 366 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 5: like I can't. I just can't deal with it. And 367 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 5: it doesn't even matter because eventually, when somebody else coaches them, 368 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 5: they're gonna do whatever the heck they want anyway. 369 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 3: But but no, no, let me try. I have to. 370 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 3: I have to. I have to try. And brother, you 371 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 3: don't need this encouragement from me. My dude, you're back. 372 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 3: The back of your baseball card looks very different than mine. 373 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 3: But I would just say, continue to do what you do, man, Continue, 374 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 3: continue to try to implement and instill the respect for 375 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 3: the game, because it's the respect for the game that 376 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 3: translates into respect for your teammates and respect for your opponents. 377 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 3: And what they hopefully eventually find out is that's what 378 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 3: you're playing this game for at the very end of it. 379 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 3: All right, somebody called it a shiny piece of metal 380 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 3: one time, and that would be fun to have to 381 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 3: But the respect of your opponents, the respect of your teammates, 382 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 3: the respect of the people watching the game, I think 383 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 3: that's pretty important as well. And anytime I can learn 384 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 3: those lessons from a big leaguer like Todd Frasier, I'd 385 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 3: like to think that I'm gonna shut my mouth and 386 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 3: open my ears and maybe learn that lesson. 387 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 2: You'd be amazed. The kids are, like, who are you 388 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 2: the parents seven? I didn't watch you play exactly well, Dallas, 389 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 2: good stuff, dude, always great to catch up. We really 390 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 2: enjoy these. Thanks for swinging by man. Enjoy the rest 391 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 2: of the postseason anytime. 392 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 3: Enjoy October boys, great to chat. 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Go to Fox one and 409 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: start a seven and day free trial to see for 410 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 1: yourself how money it. 411 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 2: Is in the weeds. 412 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: There's more to the Mike Shilt story. Kevin Acey broke 413 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: the news initially that Shilt was retiring from his position 414 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: as manager of the Padres, and he came out with 415 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: a long article in the San Diego Union Tribune about 416 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 1: more details. It sounds like on Shilt's side, he was 417 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: tired of dealing with the demands of the job and 418 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: that there were issues behind the scenes. There were complaints 419 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: from people that you know, he was working too hard. 420 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 1: He was I don't want to say yelling. I got 421 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: to find out the specifics in there, but you know, 422 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: disagreeing strongly and kind of telling people off. And there 423 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: was a lot going on behind the scenes. And he 424 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: was asked about that and said he knew about some 425 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: of that, but he was surprised that so many people 426 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: were frustrated because in this article a number of people 427 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: went on the record. I mean, I'm assuming almost all, 428 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: if not most, of them, were anonymous, but they're nearly 429 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: twenty sources, twelve of them who worked with Shilt on 430 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: a daily basis during the season, having recent months characterized 431 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: him as unyieldingly demanding of his coaching staff and the 432 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: team support staff and is having a tendency to micromanage 433 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: and possessing a quick temper that is easily triggered by 434 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: questioning or feedback. 435 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 2: Kratz your thoughts. I mean, you played for a long time. 436 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 2: Did you see that? 437 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: Do you think this is disgruntled employee action or do 438 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: you think that this is legit? 439 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 4: I never saw it be successful. I never saw a 440 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,959 Speaker 4: manager when I saw managers like that, or people in 441 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 4: high up roles like a manager would be that would 442 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 4: treat people like that, would treat support staff like these 443 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 4: people are saying in this article. They were being treated. 444 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 4: It's never been successful. But what did the padres do? 445 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 4: They were successful? I don't think the team was. I 446 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 4: have a hard time believing that Shilt was doing this 447 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 4: to the team, to the players, but maybe the support staff. 448 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 4: Maybe the guys that you know, guys and girls that 449 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 4: work to help make the team run, training staff, clubhouse guys, 450 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 4: you know, coaches, first base, bench, go all that stuff. 451 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 4: Those are as much of a team as the players are. 452 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 4: They never ever will taken at bat or throw a pitch. 453 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 4: But if they're not being heard, if they're not being 454 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 4: respected in all those situations, it's hard for a team 455 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 4: to have success. But they had success. We're not talking 456 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 4: about a team that lost a lot of games here. 457 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 4: We're talking about a team that really was kind of 458 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 4: built for this and did pretty well during the season. 459 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 4: They had their ups and downs, but they had success. 460 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 4: So I've never seen it without success. I've seen it 461 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 4: when there's so much divide and the team stinks because 462 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 4: it's like, ugh, we're fighting on the field, and we're 463 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 4: fighting in the clubhouse, or we're fighting out side of 464 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 4: the outside of the things that happened in the club 465 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 4: on the field. 466 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: And the column does say that he was great with 467 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: the players. They were very supportive of him. The team 468 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: was definitely going to have him back, so he was 469 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 1: the one who made the call and turned down some 470 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 1: pretty decent money on the rest of the contract to 471 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 1: do this. 472 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 2: All of those details are in there. I'm with Crats 473 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 2: on this one. I mean I need like really specific, 474 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 2: like in this story. 475 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: You get not enough, Like Okay, you talk to people 476 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: within the team, tell me what they said, give me 477 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: a specific example, and I want that in the article 478 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: right Like, hey, I said, you know, I gave him 479 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: one little suggestion and he screened with me for five 480 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: minutes and told me I'm going to get fired tomorrow 481 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: and then didn't. It was threading, like I don't see 482 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: anything like that that could have existed. But you talk 483 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: to players, they love him. He had success, So I 484 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: have a hard time with this. And if you don't 485 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: like that, he has you go in two hours earlier 486 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: than any team has ever had you go in. Okay, 487 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: that's a rightful claim, But guess what. That's how he's 488 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: running his operation and you don't have. 489 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 2: To be there. 490 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: Everybody has bosses they don't agree with, or many people do, 491 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 1: and then you can leave. 492 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 5: I agree. I'm looking at some of the words here. 493 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 5: He was intense. You want a manager who's intense. He's demanding. Yeah, 494 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 5: if I'm a manager, I'm going to be very demanding 495 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 5: of people that I work with, People that are players 496 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 5: staph micromanaging. Okay, yeah, maybe a little bit here and there. 497 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 5: But players love them because he cared and wanted the 498 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 5: most out of everybody else. And guess what if you 499 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 5: didn't like it, why are you there? Like if you 500 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 5: didn't like the way he did it. As a manager, 501 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 5: I want control. I want control of the choices I make. Yeah, 502 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 5: I'll listen to you. But at the same time, I'm 503 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 5: the one that makes a decision. At the end of 504 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 5: the day. We don't know enough. We don't know enough. 505 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 5: I could sit here and say all that and I 506 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 5: could be far from the truth tomorrow. But if that 507 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 5: is the case, if I'm a manager, I want the 508 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 5: best at everybody. And if it's me trying to control 509 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 5: the narrative, yeah, because I'm the guy, I'm the one 510 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 5: everybody's gonna look at and say he was your fault. 511 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: And apparently some of this happened in Saint Louis and 512 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: he disagreed with front office and all of that. Right, 513 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: it sounded like he was much more on the same 514 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: page with Preller. Preller was not on the same page 515 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: with Bob Melvin. But for me, I was reading this 516 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 1: expecting stories. Yeah, and I didn't really get anything. 517 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's ten, he works hard in too many hours. Okay, 518 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 2: welcome to baseball. Right. Yes, we could be wrong. 519 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: Something could come out after this where it's like, ah, 520 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: that's too much, But I'm not there yet. 521 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 2: I'm not seeing it. 522 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to try to talk to a couple of 523 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: the Padres players at some point to see if they've 524 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: got anything, but for now sounds like he was frustrated 525 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: with the frustrations of others and he was just like enough, 526 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: you know, I'm done. 527 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 2: This is wearing me down. 528 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: And there was a lot of talking that about him 529 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: being burnt out and voicing that to Aj Preller. That's 530 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: why Preller said he was surprised, not shocked, because they 531 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: had conversations about him just saying like, this is wearing 532 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 1: me down. And he'd been doing it for what five 533 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: or six years between the Padres and the Cardinals, with 534 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: just a brief in between. 535 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 2: Last word, But. 536 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 4: If the story line up from the Cardinals and they 537 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 4: line up with the Padres now all of a sudden, yes, 538 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 4: I would like specific examples. I've heard some specific examples 539 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,959 Speaker 4: from his time with the Cardinals. But let's see if 540 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 4: some of those stories line up, and maybe it's something 541 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 4: in his next job as a manager. Hey, you know what, 542 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 4: I can work on this. My people's skills with people 543 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 4: who are not players are not my GM might stink 544 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 4: and maybe I need to work on it. Or he's like, 545 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 4: screw that. I know this makes a good team. You 546 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 4: either get on board or you get off of the 547 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 4: next stop. 548 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: We love Ariakratz in a good underwear commercial. You know 549 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,959 Speaker 1: who would love to be in an underwear commercial. Austin Hedges. 550 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: Yea four million bucks plus five hundred k incentives back 551 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: to the Guardians on another one year contract. They get 552 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 1: it done before the season even ends. The postseason that is. 553 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 2: I thought that was against the rules. 554 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 5: I thought you had to wait. 555 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: If you're already with the team, I think you can 556 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: do that. Free agency doesn't begin until Wow, I know that, right, Kratz. 557 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not a free agent. He's not a free 558 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 4: agent yet, so it's just basically like atension, but he 559 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 4: just decided not to hit free agency. Four million dude. 560 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 4: I love when teams lock up with players in a 561 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 4: great spot to be in, Like he's one of the 562 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 4: leaders and nobody wants to see that shoot up piece 563 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 4: of bubblegum body and underwear commercial for sure. 564 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: Not yeah, but it would go viral just based on 565 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: who he is and his personality and the BOD. 566 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 5: When talking to Stephen Bode about him, he said, I 567 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 5: asked him like talking about the club as Hedge is 568 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 5: our leader. Yeah, he does. Everybody listens to him. He's 569 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 5: our guy, he says. Ramiroz is there. Don't get me wrong, 570 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 5: but that's their fearless leader. Great call, great call by them. 571 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: We have one minute left, and I did look up 572 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: the thing we were talking about at the beginning. 573 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 2: There's always a million things going on. 574 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: At the top of the show, Kratz was challenging history 575 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,239 Speaker 1: and Kratz in twenty nineteen in the World Series, that's 576 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: what you were talking about. The Astros were home, they 577 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: lost the first two games. They went on the road, 578 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: they won three, four and five. But this trivia question 579 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: was about losing the first two games at home and 580 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: then winning the series. The Astros lost those last two 581 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: games back at home. It's FT presented by Fox Won 582 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: two minutes here to talk about the Rockies search for 583 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: a new front office leader. I'm proud of Colorado for 584 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,360 Speaker 1: looking outside the organization. 585 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 2: James Click is in the running. Click won a. 586 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: World Series as a front office leader with the Astros. 587 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: That's right, That's that's good, and that's what Jim Crane 588 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 1: said to him after they won the World Series. He said, 589 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: you got a one year deal because I technically don't 590 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: want you to come back and I just have. 591 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 2: To do this. 592 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: So Click said, see you guess who he works for 593 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: now the Blue Jays. It's work, and he's an advisor 594 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: for Ross Atkins, so I think he would be great 595 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: for a job like this. Others in the running include 596 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: Scott Sharp, who's an assistant GM with the Royals, and 597 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: Cleveland Guardians assistant GM Matt Forman. Both of them have 598 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: been in the game for a while. I don't know 599 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: as much about them as I do about Click click 600 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: heard back click. I think that he will be a 601 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: front office leader again soon for Meatkrats. 602 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 2: This could be a good fit. 603 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 4: Scott Sharp's a good one. He's a good one with 604 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 4: the Royals. I think I think he aligns with kind 605 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 4: of what the Rockies are looking for, you know, people first, 606 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 4: type of people. But whoever comes in here, whoever's coming 607 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 4: in from another organization, they're going to go in, like 608 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 4: James Click is going to go in. From what I've 609 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 4: heard about the Rockies, and they're like how far behind 610 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 4: the time they are? Some things he might be like, wait, what, 611 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 4: you guys don't do this. You guys don't have counter 612 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 4: reports for the players, but how do you what? Oh man, 613 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 4: there's a lot of low hanging fruit here. So I hope, 614 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 4: I hope one of these guys gets this job, and 615 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 4: I hope he can help turn around that organization because 616 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 4: they have a great fan base there. 617 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: To me, that's why click out of that group as 618 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: a front runner, even though I don't know the other 619 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: two as well, because I think you need someone that was, 620 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: like I've been in the seat, I won a title. 621 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: I'm also coming from another team that was one of 622 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: the last left. And here's what you need to do. 623 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: I'm not asking you, I'm telling you. This is why 624 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: we need to do this to change what's been going 625 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: on process wise with Colorado. 626 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 2: So I could see that happening. 627 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: Plus, I do like Clicks, background krats some teams that 628 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: are pretty front in front of the game in terms 629 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: of tech. Houston, he was in Tampa Bay for a while. 630 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: I think you need somebody that's going to think outside 631 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:27,479 Speaker 1: the box, and Colorado should be a lab where you're like, 632 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: we have to catch up and then some we have 633 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: to do things very differently. 634 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 3: Here. 635 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: It's incredibly difficult to have a consistent winner based on 636 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: the atmosphere. In the most obvious news of the offseason, 637 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: Alex Bragman is planning to opt out after a nice 638 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: first year in Boston. This, according to John Hammond said 639 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: Red Sox return seems logical, but there will surely be options. 640 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: And if you want to check out his article, he's 641 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: got a surprise suitor in there. There are going to 642 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: be teams going after him. I know one team that 643 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: won't go after him, the Tigers, because they're pissed. They 644 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: took it personally that he said, no, I don't think 645 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: they're going to go after him again. 646 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 2: That's funny. 647 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: I think he'd be a great fit Thereocrats, but I 648 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: think they were really bothered about the situation because they 649 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: offered the most guarantee money. 650 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 4: Get over it. If you still think he's a good player, 651 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 4: you were about to get six or seven years out. 652 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 5: Of him, try again, Try again. 653 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, well all of a sudden, Oh your feelings are hurt. Well, 654 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 4: he could have helped you. So I don't know that 655 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 4: I I don't know that I agree with it. But 656 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 4: there's other suitors. Of course, there's other suitors. And also, 657 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 4: like he's a free agent, help them help him go 658 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 4: and enjoy his time. He shouldn't be talking to other 659 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 4: teams yet. He hasn't opted out yet. Let's let's follow 660 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 4: the rules and I want to see what Boris does 661 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 4: for him. Boris, the second year of these types of 662 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 4: contracts where they don't get what they want the first year, 663 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 4: has absolutely cashed in for his guys. So I'm excited 664 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 4: to see Look at Snow, look at Chapman, look like 665 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 4: those are recent examples. I'm excited to see what Pete A. 666 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 4: Lonzo gets too. So Reregman did everything he needed to do. 667 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 3: M