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Speaker 1: R and B Money than take Volati.

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Speaker 2: We are the authority.

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Speaker 3: R and B. I'm Valentine and this is the R

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Speaker 3: and B Money Podcast and today, Oh man, I'm just

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Speaker 3: gonna kick this off. We're not the same person. We're

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Speaker 3: not I know, I know the names are similar, but

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Speaker 3: we are not.

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Speaker 1: The same pearl. Yeah with it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this good brother right here is Grammy nominated multi platinum.

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Speaker 1: Come on, man, and we were about to really get

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Speaker 1: into it.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: You know, so some of you ladies might have Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, y'all might want to get into bed.

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Speaker 3: Uh, don't suffocate yourself though, you know, but you know

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be a lot of pivoting. It's a lot

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Speaker 3: of cool shit going on today. My brother Jay Holiday.

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 5: Brother, It's going on. Man, that's crazy. You said that

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Speaker 5: though they definitely thought it was the same for a minute.

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Speaker 5: We're the same person sometimes, bro, we are. Yeah, we

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Speaker 5: actually could be brothers. That's what we said that when

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Speaker 5: we met.

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Speaker 1: You know, you know what the funny party is too, man.

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Speaker 3: I think with both of our personalities, I don't think

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Speaker 3: either one of us ever took it as like a

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Speaker 3: slight because something, you know, it's funny because I think,

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Speaker 3: you know, obviously in this new Internet era for people

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Speaker 3: purposely they'll.

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Speaker 1: Be like, yeah, J and Jay Holiday.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, I'm not Jay Holiday, but you know,

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Speaker 3: you know I'm not like and you think I'm about

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Speaker 3: to get mad or like that's the homie.

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Speaker 5: But some people are that stupid and well, not stupid,

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Speaker 5: but like absent minded.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, call nobody stupid, but yeah, stupid on the Internet. Though.

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Speaker 3: Let's just be honest, man, because the Internet is for everybody,

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Speaker 3: is free, it is, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: But uh, let's let's get into it. Bro. Let's man,

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Speaker 1: let's let's get back to d C. Let's go.

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Speaker 3: Let's start back young j Holiday. Your upbringing mm hmm.

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Speaker 3: As far as from a musical standpoint, like what got

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Speaker 3: you into this thing?

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Speaker 5: First and foremost, I'll say my oldest sister, Quinnie. She

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Speaker 5: was a singer, so okay, she did like she did

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Speaker 5: the Go Go bands, and then at one point she

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Speaker 5: ended up singing background for Crystal Waters and touring and stuff.

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Speaker 5: It and then finding out, oh I can sing, she

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Speaker 5: was like a big brother I never had. Okay, you

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Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. Like you want to follow your

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Speaker 5: big brothers. Sure, for sure, I have a big brother.

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Speaker 5: So it's like it's just watched her getting that. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: well she was doing a little fun man, and and

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Speaker 5: then I just I liked it. I never wanted to

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Speaker 5: be an artist though. That's the crazy part. When she

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Speaker 5: be artists. I just love the fact that I could sing.

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Speaker 5: My mom sing she was in a group with her sisters. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: my dad plays saxophone and stuff like that. But yeah, man,

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Speaker 5: I just I she helped me figure out I could sing.

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Speaker 1: So she's the first discovery for you. Yeah, for sure,

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Speaker 3: Okay, So whereas was it like you and your because

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Speaker 3: now it's funny, man, in my house, my kids singing

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Speaker 3: the shower or in their lower homes, but neither one

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Speaker 3: of them just outwardly sing. They don't just they don't,

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean like they're just start walking around singing.

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Speaker 1: So I almost be like.

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Speaker 3: Let me see if we got the notes, we got

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Speaker 3: to start turning with Joe Jackson quick right. So was

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Speaker 3: it something like that for her of hearing you do

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Speaker 1: You know what's funny.

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Speaker 5: By the time I actually so me and my sister,

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Speaker 5: So by the time I even realized I could say,

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Speaker 5: So she wasn't really around for the discovery, you know

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Speaker 5: what I mean. It was more so like my cousins

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Speaker 1: You gotta do that. You gotta do that all my

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Speaker 5: I was in a few few groups. Yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 5: I never was crazy. I never wanted to be the

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Speaker 5: just you harmonize it, right. I wanted to be I

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Speaker 5: wanted to be a background. It's going to be a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean. Let me. Let me

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Speaker 1: be a part of the part of the artists. Being

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Speaker 1: the lead singer. It's a different responsibility, way way different.

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Speaker 3: It's a very and it's crazy because in this new

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Speaker 3: Daan and age that's all the new artists really know.

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Speaker 1: They're not even trying to like grow.

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Speaker 5: The stigma is groups always break up.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is about.

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Speaker 5: Ninety I'm not even said you know, you know what

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Speaker 5: I mean though, Like, but break bad breakups.

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Speaker 1: Some groups don't break up bad, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: Some groups just don't break up bat and they're still

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Speaker 5: cool and they still family, they have cookouts and all that.

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Speaker 1: But most groups haven't broken up. Sorry five. I think

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Speaker 1: Jacket is probably the only group that ain't never broke up. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when you so, as soon as we start talking

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Speaker 3: about groups, I start thinking about that, I'm like, it's

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Speaker 1: Jack Wow the group. So you're right, it's not a stigma.

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Speaker 1: Oh man. At this point, now you got me, I'm

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Speaker 1: literally away from the group. Yeah, I think too, don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if they understand the power now in

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Speaker 3: been in multiple voices and giving you know, the fans

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Speaker 3: multiple choices.

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Speaker 1: Of who they like in a group. Absolutely, you know

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Speaker 3: So man, I'm hoping and praying and I you know,

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Speaker 3: I've said it many times on the show.

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Speaker 1: At some juncture I'm going to put together a group.

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Speaker 1: I have to. I know it's going it's gonna stress me.

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Speaker 1: I've been looking for them. I know it's gonna stress

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Speaker 5: But sometimes a couple of the groups that I haven't seen,

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Speaker 5: they already have motions. So it was kind of like, man,

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Speaker 5: don't even you always got folks I want to step in. Yeah, like,

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Speaker 1: Don't be in the way. Don't be in the way. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: It wouldn't have been organic because they already had motion,

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Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. But them guys, I think

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Speaker 1: What's the Fame Show? Oh you're talking about City Limit?

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Speaker 1: Yeah they don't. Yeah, you already know who I'm talking about. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I rived with those Yeah they went on there. Did

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Speaker 1: they think? So it's powering it? Yes? Like you said, now,

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Speaker 1: you got to keep it together.

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Speaker 5: I got to keep together, even though I love being

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Speaker 5: says now by myself, because I don't got to worry

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Speaker 1: But because that happens in groups.

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Speaker 5: Groups don't always have one hundred perfect performances. But my

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Speaker 5: days in a group. That was fun man, and this

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Speaker 5: is your teenage. Yeah, they were fun days. Yeah, I

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Speaker 5: actually came to Atlanta. Turned on when you came to it.

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Speaker 5: I turned twenty one in my group. That's how I

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Speaker 5: got to Atlanta with a group. How many guys it

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Speaker 5: then for it didn't even make it to Atlanta. Four

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Speaker 5: didn't make it to but no, no, no, it was.

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Speaker 5: It was a new addition. He was with us for

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Speaker 5: like three months.

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Speaker 1: Okay, really really a voice to men. Yeah, he was

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Speaker 1: looking know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: What I'm saying because we had five the audition always

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Speaker 3: say until Bobby left, I'm saying. You know, Mark Nelson

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Speaker 3: was the original member with the four guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the least singer of as yet history lessons. Yeah yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Didn't know he was the one of one of the

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Speaker 3: original five. It was five of them.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy. So yeah, we used to you know, every group.

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Speaker 5: We would study every group from Take six to Old Town.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like we're studying all the

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Speaker 5: white black It wasn't even really a K pop yet,

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Speaker 5: it was. It was just it was amazing, bro, you

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Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. So he didn't make it, and

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Speaker 5: but it was a look he didn't have to look

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Speaker 5: it was you know what I'm saying, that's not the

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Speaker 5: But no, for real, because it wasn't necessarily our decision.

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Speaker 5: The group had already been together for five years.

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Speaker 1: That's all I was gonna ask y'all.

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Speaker 3: So when y'all came to Atlanta, y'all got management everything

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Speaker 3: that that brought y'all here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We we were together for five years.

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Speaker 5: Like I said, we were a five part group. Two

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Speaker 5: of them went to the military. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: They just it was one of them. You're graduating from

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Speaker 1: What you're gonna do? You know what I'm saying. Everybody

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Speaker 5: But yeah, I had a little more leadway, you know

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Speaker 5: what I mean, as far as like I had a job,

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Speaker 5: when you at the crib and Mom's just like, look,

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Speaker 5: can't do this no more time? You to go and

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Speaker 5: make it about to be twenty.

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Speaker 1: One, you know what i mean.

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Speaker 5: So so they went to the army and shout out

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Speaker 5: to the man, shout out tomorrow and and Jeff. But

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Speaker 5: so then we was like three was like three was

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Speaker 5: icky to us, you know what I mean, Like in

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Speaker 5: our mind, every group that was pree failed. That's how

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Speaker 5: we looked at it, and not saying that's what happened.

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Speaker 1: Next, next, next, next got cracking exactly what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: But then on top of that, we also we wanted

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Speaker 5: to compete with the be two k's.

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Speaker 1: We didn't want to compete.

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Speaker 3: So it's like it was also about.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, dancing and whatever.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You was getting used to

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Speaker 1: all right a little bit a little bit.

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Speaker 5: And then he didn't, like I said, he didn't make it.

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Speaker 5: And so the decision was, I mean, y'all can keep

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Speaker 5: them in a group, but you just can't go to Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: That's that. That was the stipulation.

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Speaker 5: He because I don't want to put nobody name out

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Speaker 5: of there, but anybody know my story. You already know

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Speaker 5: who I'm talking about. But it was just one of

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Speaker 1: At this point, you're the least singer of the group. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But where that responsibility lies of Okay, what we're gonna.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, three sixty five days.

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Speaker 3: So in that time we sat in front of everybody, y'all,

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Speaker 3: He was about that life. So why do you think

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so Niggas was like the group bears over.

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Speaker 1: Me, even from the beginning.

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Speaker 5: From the from the top, from the first meeting. No,

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Speaker 5: Okay, I had mind you before I moved here, I

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Speaker 1: That's dope. Yeah, that's dope. I was working at seventh

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Speaker 5: Well, my mom's like, well, because all right. So I

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Speaker 1: To me, like, all right, I got it. Tough for creative,

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Speaker 5: Now, any any moments I had with my peers and

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Speaker 5: So me knowing myself, Okay, now mind you. My mom

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Speaker 3: Wait, so this is at eighteen. This is before you

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 5: No, I graduated at seventeen. But you came to see

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Speaker 1: Press some peace.

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Speaker 5: But so my mom is at my grandmother's house and

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Speaker 5: I'm on campus, you know, because they've giving us.

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Speaker 1: The whole experience. So they threw a party for.

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Speaker 5: Us that night, and you know, we're just getting to

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Speaker 1: Oh man, I can't wait to see you at school.

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Speaker 1: And La.

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Speaker 5: Yeah it's cats from New York. I don't know where

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Speaker 5: remember what I drunk.

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Speaker 1: CARTI and the mom.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we didn't know that was a bad decision

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Speaker 3: to go. No, nothing bad happened after that.

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Speaker 5: It was just the fact that I got drunk, and

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Speaker 1: But for me it was.

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Speaker 5: I'm drunk and my mama's down the street. M what

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Speaker 5: It scared the ship out of me. Even though I

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Speaker 5: I had plenty of support, but that shit scared me.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 3: So when you got out, you're like, I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: My mom says, you gotta get it. You gotta get one, Okay.

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Speaker 5: So I deferred for a second. I deferred enrollment for

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Speaker 5: was like, well, don't we go to college to make money.

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Speaker 1: I'm cool, but you're already there. You in corporate America.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm cool on school, but you're still you have

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I was gonna go to school for music, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I was going.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if I was gonna teach or whatever,

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Speaker 5: but that was gonna be my beture, you know what

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Speaker 3: But but I'm saying, why you in corporate America? You

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Speaker 3: still have even though you're making bread, You're like, I

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Speaker 1: I'm still doing that.

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Speaker 5: I'm still doing that on the side, Like I'm so

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Speaker 5: I came out of high school.

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Speaker 1: In my group.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so I'm already in the group once I graduate

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Speaker 5: because I gotta go to work. I just I can't

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Speaker 3: What happens when you get to Atlanta you're not working

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Speaker 3: and you just purely doing music. Though now you in

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Speaker 3: this group, Yeah, it's three of y'all. Nobody's nobody's bite nobody.

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Speaker 3: Did y'all even get an offer from anybody?

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Speaker 5: We never got an offer. That's we went to uh

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Speaker 5: what we went to Ariston? So all right, So one

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Speaker 1: The guys in the group are playing play guitar.

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Speaker 5: So any of our meetings, we're not playing nothing, We're

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Speaker 1: We're going we're going off the guitar. You're going acoustic, right, Okay,

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Speaker 1: So just walked in and.

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Speaker 5: What's crazy is PJ is still doing this thing down here.

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Speaker 5: Now he's a dope ass engineer. But we're in a meeting,

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Speaker 5: drumsticks come out. You know who was that ariston who

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm figuring you had him in his desk.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, who in y'all group brost with he's behind

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Speaker 5: So that was the closest to a bike. Yeah, you're like, okay,

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Speaker 1: That was like, Nigga, you got something with that lead singer.

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Speaker 5: Ah, you got something okay. And that's when it hit

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Speaker 5: We were supposed to do one more meeting with SoCal

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I say, I'm singying everything. Mm hmmm yeah yeah.

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Speaker 5: If this, if this Social Death meeting don't happen, I'm

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Speaker 1: It got too. I respect that though, because.

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Speaker 5: We sat in front of it. We sat in front

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Speaker 5: We didn't get no meetings. We got every meeting you

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Speaker 5: you get in front of Craig and you like, you

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Speaker 1: Folks, and.

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Speaker 5: I was it hurt because I'm like, fuck, I don't

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Speaker 1: Anyway, right, tell me this because I like to go

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 3: Say everything, but yeah, I like to give people real

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: You know, we kind of we kind of graze over

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Speaker 3: multiple rejection. It's multiple I mean, like, tell me the

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Speaker 3: this next label, this next guy, this next lady who's

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Speaker 1: Like what is that.

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Speaker 3: Mindset after you've been told no multiple times?

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Speaker 1: Man? And what drives that? For the dream? Bro? It

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Speaker 1: was a dream? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: When we back home, we're doing all the talent shows,

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Speaker 1: Me, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: People love us so and then and in the meetings

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Speaker 5: were getting ain't no stiff faces, none of that. So

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Speaker 5: it was more so like a not really understanding.

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Speaker 1: Because it was never like y'all whack.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was never it was never was white harmony

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Speaker 5: for you?

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Speaker 1: Is for you? Okay you know I mean I wasn't

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Speaker 1: Oh they're singling you out too, well not I'm not

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Speaker 5: And so the question would be how they feel you

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Speaker 5: I mean, But I knew it was something. Yeah I know,

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Speaker 5: I couldn't stop. I quit my jobs to come here.

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Speaker 5: I'm not going back now, so fully locked I'm locked in.

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Speaker 3: do you go back in to do the demo completely

442
00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,159
Speaker 3: as a solo art. As a solo artist, you just

443
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,000
Speaker 3: kind of take those songs that you're singing lead on them.

444
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,680
Speaker 5: No, I took one. Okay that is on my first album.

445
00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,560
Speaker 5: So my group is on my first album. Okay, ye,

446
00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,480
Speaker 5: credits and everything that's dope that Yeah.

447
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,359
Speaker 3: How long is the process once the group di spands?

448
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 3: So it took you eight months to get a deep sign?

449
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,320
Speaker 3: So did you go back around to everybody again as

450
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,879
Speaker 3: a solo artist or now was it just a conversation.

451
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 1: Oh shit, Donna's JQ. Everybody, Hey, guys, I'm back back.

452
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 1: This is me. Oh that's wild.

453
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 5: I think the only person I didn't work with was JQ.

454
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,239
Speaker 5: I worked with JQ in the group, but I went

455
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:12,359
Speaker 5: to Kerry like she didn't in a place or anything.

456
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 3: But what I'm talking about as far from the labels,

457
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,679
Speaker 3: from the labels, we can go back on those, okay,

458
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:22,119
Speaker 3: because they had seen first first meeting, first meeting time, Yeah,

459
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:24,120
Speaker 3: crazy right?

460
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:25,360
Speaker 1: Who signed over there?

461
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 5: Was it?

462
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,439
Speaker 1: Wendy? Wendy was Yeah, she was at Capital.

463
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 5: Then Wendy might have came in right after. Because I

464
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 5: and I went through five systems, five label heads. It's

465
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:36,920
Speaker 5: in my story is crazy, bro, But.

466
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:39,159
Speaker 1: Com music business.

467
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 3: You know, you get you go sit down with one

468
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 3: person and then next thing you know, they even get fired.

469
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,119
Speaker 1: They get a bigger job somewhere else.

470
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 3: They don't take the kids with them most of the time.

471
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:52,920
Speaker 1: No, I mean it was cool.

472
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 5: It was just every time somebody knew came in, they

473
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 5: came in with their new ideas and this is but

474
00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 5: I've been here.

475
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:02,400
Speaker 1: Just let me rock am rockets. So did new did

476
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,640
Speaker 1: a new regime happen before you ever got a chance

477
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 1: to put your project out? No?

478
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,880
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, okay, So this is after Yeah,

479
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 5: this is going into the second album. Like I went

480
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 5: through four systems between the first and second album.

481
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 1: I'm on my fourth system.

482
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 6: All right, let's let's let's talk about that first album.

483
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 3: What's the process you kind of gave You gave me

484
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 3: a little bit of the process of like all the

485
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 3: people you went back and worked with once you get signed,

486
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 3: but actually when you get signed, because now, did you

487
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 3: get you a little bit of money?

488
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 5: Well, I mean you know, blew that, but yeah I did,

489
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 5: what man, sir clubs?

490
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is it? What you well?

491
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 3: Remember it had take That's the first thing I had jobs,

492
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 3: so I was flying, I had cars I had to give.

493
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: But the first thing you said was strip club? Is

494
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: that like a thing in the d NV, like the city?

495
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 1: Was my first strip club? I really went.

496
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 3: I went to Penhouse back home. But oh Magic Phouse

497
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:15,640
Speaker 3: still ain't got.

498
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 5: Nothing more different Magic and b amth for magic.

499
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: This was meet on stage yep, yeah yeah, magic.

500
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 3: The person next to you. Because it's like, it's just money,

501
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 3: so much money. It's crazy. So yeah, man, I was

502
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 3: so you got your little bit of that. You said,

503
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm gonna go hang out and throw

504
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 3: me a couple of.

505
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 1: Dollars a couple you threw your budget.

506
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 5: Man through it was gone.

507
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 1: My god.

508
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, not so much that fast, well

509
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 5: fast enough, fast enough for six months that ship was

510
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 5: out of there.

511
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 3: How long did it take from getting signed to putting

512
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 3: out your first single?

513
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: Process? Sorry, did it happen pretty quick? Okay?

514
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 5: So when it solo got in the studio, I think

515
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 5: the first person I got into the studio was Donnie Skants.

516
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 4: Oh my god.

517
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 5: And we did Ghetto okay. And because I was on

518
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 5: my Marmin thing, so I was. I just fell in

519
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 5: love with Marmon.

520
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 1: So I mean, you're from Washington, d C. I didn't

521
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:22,719
Speaker 1: even know it's from DC at the point, what are

522
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: you serious? Because I was in.

523
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 5: The studyer of music. I started more studying once I

524
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 5: got here, you know what I mean. I knew music,

525
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 5: I knew people that I wasn't reading credits, I wasn't

526
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 5: looking at the producers.

527
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you didn't know and all that you loved. You

528
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 1: loved Marvin gabb but you had no idea, y'all from

529
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 1: the same place.

530
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, it started with the California Raisins. It's like, you

531
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 5: know what I mean? And then I heard what song?

532
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 5: Did I hear the next because you got to think,

533
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 5: I'm not listening to no old music. So I think

534
00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 5: I heard maybe maybe it was sexual healing. And then

535
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 5: I found out it was the same person because I

536
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 5: didn't realize had the Raisins they had. They hired somebody

537
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:14,360
Speaker 5: to sing for the Raisins and m nigga, it's cold.

538
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 5: So then I was on my Marvel stuff and then

539
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 5: so I went there. Then I went to Donnas and

540
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 5: we did a song called Without You that was a

541
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 5: dark Child track. It ended up being a label label.

542
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 5: It ended up being an album cut, but you know

543
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 5: what I mean, you gotta send it to the producer.

544
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 5: So Ronnie heard it and immediately was like, yeah, I

545
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 5: want to get him in New Jersey. I want to get

546
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 5: him in the studio so I can work, so I

547
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 5: can work with him recently and then that's when we

548
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 5: didn't be with me and then.

549
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 1: To the racist Yeah, off to the races.

550
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 5: So that was about six months okay, okay, six months

551
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 5: and when it went it won in super long ago.

552
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 3: When you get the first record out? Mhm, what's the

553
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 3: process for you as far as are you did you

554
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 3: immediately hit the road? Are you kind of like waiting

555
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 3: to see how the record's gonna do?

556
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: So? How was that for you at that at that

557
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 1: at that point we did be.

558
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 5: With me and I do like a couple of little

559
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 5: like it was more so based around like my hometown,

560
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 5: like ninety two Q stuff like that. So they send

561
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 5: you back to DC pretty much. Oh and they're not

562
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 5: home like I was still living in Atlanta. But the

563
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 5: first like I guess it's the promotional run, you know.

564
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: So where they trying to break you on the East

565
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: coast first for sure? Okay, for sure, okay, And.

566
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 3: Because you know, I asked these questions because the business

567
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 3: has to a certain degree changed so much, but there's

568
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 3: there's still certain things that I always believe you should

569
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 3: be big where you're from.

570
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: Sure, yes, I believe.

571
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 3: That, you know what I mean, And some people don't

572
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 3: think that way anymore because it's like, oh, well, the Internet,

573
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 3: can you know just immediately put you in front of

574
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 3: the world. I'm like, it's so much shit that people

575
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 3: in the world have a chance to see you.

576
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 5: Literally, maybe you you're lucky never be world famous, and

577
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 5: you're good in your hometown.

578
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: You're good, right, right, you're good. So you know, I

579
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: would see the business that we both come from.

580
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 3: It starts regional for sure, even as an R and

581
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 3: B artist, absolutely, So that's why I asked, Okay, so

582
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 3: you so now you're doing a promo run.

583
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 5: They're doing promo shows and stuff like that. And then

584
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 5: they're like, so the single didn't pick up like we

585
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 5: thought it would, Okay, and not even that like we

586
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 5: thought it would.

587
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: But I mean, you put out a record you're thinking

588
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: I'm about to crack.

589
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, it didn't crack, right, And it's like, you need

590
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 5: you need, you need a song, bro, you need you

591
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 5: need a second single, official first single, kind of Ship. Yeah,

592
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 5: I hate that, the test single, and then the music

593
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 5: industry was crazy, bro. Yes, but yes we did that.

594
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 5: And then that's when I got bid. Rest is history. Well,

595
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 5: you can't just go. You can't just go.

596
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 3: That's when I got big, bro, Like, we got to

597
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,719
Speaker 3: get into it. We got to get into the the record.

598
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 3: Were you already working with Red Zone?

599
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: No? Okay?

600
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 5: So all right, So I did my demo I had

601
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 5: actually I got a backtrack, so.

602
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: And I'll make it fast.

603
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 5: So I did Ghetto with Donny and then it was

604
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 5: just it was still kind of slow, like because for me,

605
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 5: I had already been for a year. So I'm like,

606
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 5: it's a year plus now at this point for me,

607
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 5: it's not starting a new clock.

608
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: For me. It's it's bread and not about that. Before

609
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: we went to the Magic City, I gosh, what I

610
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: should have That shit was out of there.

611
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 5: So I was like, you know what, one thing that

612
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 5: I haven't done is I have not taken a break.

613
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: I haven't taken one break. So I went home.

614
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 5: I went home, see my people, see my friends and

615
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 5: all that stuff, like I just need like a couple

616
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 5: of seconds, and I got in with my managers, my

617
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 5: manager's cousin, and just like yeah, he's like, you're gonna

618
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 5: record while you're home, right, like, don't stop working, Like now,

619
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 5: I'm gonna work. But I just I got to get

620
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 5: out of Atlanta. So I went home and I did

621
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 5: Back my Lot.

622
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 3: Oh shit, okay, I did back my Lot and which

623
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 3: obviously is the title.

624
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 5: Right, And I made it the title because Nigga, that

625
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 5: was my quit song.

626
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 3: I was about to not come back to Atlanta with

627
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 3: the record deal with the record. I'm out, I'm cool.

628
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 3: I want to get the job, going back to work, bro,

629
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 3: Because did you get home with your friends? And yeah, yeah,

630
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 3: you get my mom still here?

631
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 5: I mean my mom is still in Atlanta. I mean

632
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 5: my mom is still in DC. So I'm like, I

633
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 5: see my mom. You know, I had a baby on

634
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 5: the way at the time, so got a chance to

635
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 5: you know, be a.

636
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: Part of that or whatever.

637
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 5: But yeah, man, I did that and I sent it

638
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 5: to him and I was like that, don't like this ship.

639
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm going, you know what I'm saying.

640
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I sent the ship to my manager and hein't said, Nigga,

641
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 5: get back to Atlanta.

642
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was my quitting song. That's my quit song.

643
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 3: If you listen to the lyrics, Man, I gotta now

644
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 3: you said I gotta go back because I'm like I

645
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 3: was quitting on that song.

646
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was done. How back on the plane in

647
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: Atlanta though, now I drove Actually they had no money

648
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: from the planes. I drove up and drove back. Executives

649
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: a capital.

650
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 3: I set my brother, you know what, because it wasn't

651
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 3: the schedule, like nigga, he gotta go do what right,

652
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 3: I ain't asked for permission.

653
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: I'm going home right right. It wasn't part of it.

654
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: I don't go home, y'all not gonna like who I am. Right,

655
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: it wasn't part of I got I got you, I

656
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: got you, I got it. I got going home. Bro.

657
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 3: When you get back here, yeah you go. Do you

658
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 3: now is that already being set up for you? Had

659
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 3: or had someone heard been or was there anything that

660
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 3: was already in place? Or were you just like, ohay,

661
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 3: they gonna put you in with with with tricky dream.

662
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 2: Nah.

663
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: Actually I had already recorded suff Kate Carlos McKinnie. Yeah,

664
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: you did some k first.

665
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 5: I did Suffcate to get it some bread, some money

666
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 5: that I was a.

667
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: I was a studio. He's a demo singer.

668
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 5: I was a demo singer. Oh ship, Yeah, that was

669
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 5: a demo that. The actual song is the someone Else

670
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 5: though slice for Maya.

671
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wait so you never heard this story? No, bro, no,

672
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,719
Speaker 1: this is fucking great though I love it. No, they

673
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: told me it was for it, right, you know what

674
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: I mean? Right? So you actually got paid for the

675
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: song as a demo singer.

676
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 3: And fifty dollars to fifty a good two fifty. Yeah,

677
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 3: that was the going rate. That was the going rate,

678
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 3: two fifty. So now when you get your deal, though,

679
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 3: I want the song. No, So we did be with Me.

680
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 3: Be with Me came out, didn't really clutch, and then

681
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 3: was nig you need you need the first single. So

682
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 3: Ronnie Johnson and Peace came over to Capitol and he's

683
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 3: the one that pushed the pedal.

684
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: He was like, what are y'all doing?

685
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 5: Because I guess I don't I guess maybe nobody was

686
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 5: really on it because at this point, remember Ronnie came

687
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 5: in to be the third system. This is this is

688
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 5: now the third System. So he like, bro, y'all got

689
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 5: a star right here.

690
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 3: Put the money, take money from there, Take money from there,

691
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 3: take money from there and.

692
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 5: Put it on him. Put the money on him. I'm

693
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 5: telling you, y'all, y'all, y'all in a buying right now.

694
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: Put the money on him. What are y'all doing? Because

695
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what happens too.

696
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 3: When when people come to labels, they don't see that

697
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 3: someone else is that that that an artist has been sitting.

698
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: They're just like, oh, this is what I'm assessing.

699
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 5: They come, Yeah, they're coming in assess oh or her?

700
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 5: Oh so what y'all got?

701
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, so he put the light on you, He

702
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: put the light on me.

703
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 5: The rest in peace and then and guess what died

704
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 5: not too long after that. So in my mind, he

705
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 5: was literally placed at capital for me. Yeah, that's the

706
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 5: only thing I can come over with. Yeah, I mean,

707
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 5: he didn't do nothing. I mean as far as other

708
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 5: artists I own, I well, I wasn't paying attention to

709
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 5: it because it wasn't my business.

710
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: But I don't think he really know we're put in

711
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: place for anybody else. Yeah, other you know, I mean wow.

712
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, So shouts out to Ronnie Johnson man recipes bro,

713
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 5: and my my system would have never changed if he

714
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 5: didn't die.

715
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: That's when my system changed. You got Suffocate believed in me. Bro.

716
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, we have to have Well he not the only one,

717
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 5: but he yeah on the label.

718
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 3: And had enough of and had enough of a voice

719
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 3: to make others believe. Absolutely reignite the belief. Now you're

720
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 3: back in Atlanta, come back back. My leg brought you back.

721
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 3: You already got to suffocate there. How does bed happen?

722
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 3: So Ronnie's like, he needs his first single, Like we

723
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 3: put a single already out.

724
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: I ain't eat.

725
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 5: He needs a single, He need a single. Just call

726
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 5: call around, call around. But uh so, I guess they

727
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 5: got dream on the phone or I don't know if

728
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 5: it was dreaming Tricky, but he was like, I'm flying

729
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 5: to Atlanta to give with my other guy and my

730
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 5: manager and we're gonna I'm gonna find a single fan

731
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:32,919
Speaker 5: before I leave, before I go back to New York.

732
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 5: So dream can I guess Tricky called dreamed. He's like,

733
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 5: y'all come play some ship for Jay so you can record.

734
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 5: I guess he had just finished Bed the day before

735
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 5: or a couple of days before this, so he was like,

736
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 5: with suit, I just did a new record. I sent

737
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 5: it to Chris, but y'all can hear it?

738
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

739
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 5: Like, I ain't heart back from Chris yet, So y'all

740
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 5: can listen to it. Ronnie heard the song bust the

741
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 5: check book out, stroke the check on the spot.

742
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: On the spot.

743
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 5: I want the record, Yeah, I recorded it that night.

744
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: That's how man, you can't let the records well.

745
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 5: To call me down and called me and was like,

746
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 5: get to the studio nowt I already knew they was

747
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 5: in a meeting and ship get to see you.

748
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: No, now you gotta record. What were your thoughts when

749
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: you first heard heard it? Hated it? I heard it,

750
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: hated it. Sorry, I was trying to say no, no, no,

751
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: it's even better.

752
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 5: I said it like that though, because it's bro and

753
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 5: it's the thing. I've one of the most dopest writers

754
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 5: I've ever dealt with, because I never understood how his

755
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 5: mind work was dreaming. His mind is different, amazing. Everybody

756
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 5: else like Tank writes a certain way. Tank rights melodies,

757
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 5: Dream rights experiences. Hmm, if I can, I guess that's

758
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 5: the best way for me to put it. But so

759
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 5: I came in, I heard it. Dream wasn't everybody the way?

760
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 5: I mean, he didn't need to be. But I heard it,

761
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 5: and so he sung the He sent it the demo

762
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 5: and in falsetto, Like the entire song from front of

763
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 5: the back was in falsetto. So that's how I attempted

764
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 5: to record it.

765
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: Was the first time you singing, you singing in false

766
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:11,720
Speaker 1: the whole time.

767
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 5: Because I'm thinking that's how the song needs to be,

768
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 5: like this dream dream just been umbrella. I have to

769
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 5: follow what he put down because that's what I was taking.

770
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: That's what I was taking. You don't go in changing

771
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: the writing ship.

772
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 5: And so Scott the engineer, I was just like, Bro,

773
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 5: I was getting frustrated.

774
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: I was getting frustrated.

775
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 5: I was like, bro, I don't know, I ain't catching it.

776
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 5: They over there like I felt like they was over

777
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 5: their cheers. And then he said like we got one. Yeah,

778
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 5: I'm in the in the room like nigger, this is

779
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 5: not working out. This is not working And so he said,

780
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 5: what's the problem. I was like, I don't know. I

781
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 5: just I don't I don't want to the falsetto things

782
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 5: kind of throwing me off and whatever whatever. So how

783
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 5: would you sing it? Let start the song, because by

784
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 5: this time, I not this song now start the song

785
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 5: finished it in like maybe two and a half three hours.

786
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 3: Because this before you got there, like you said, you

787
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 3: had never heard the song, and you sing it the

788
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 3: first night you hear it.

789
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean that, and that in itself is tough. Yeah.

790
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 5: It was so frustrating because I'm just like, I don't

791
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 5: hear what they hear, but I can't disappoint them. Yeah,

792
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 5: this is this he flew here right Newton got the

793
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 5: label right right, I gotta I gotta complete this record,

794
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 5: and so I started doing it in full and the

795
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 5: automatically just felt right mm hmm. So the rest is

796
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 5: history just kept going.

797
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

798
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 3: How long did it take before they put that record

799
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 3: out after you? After you cut it? Was it pretty quick?

800
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: Maybe a month after most oh ship? Oh yeah, they

801
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: was ready to be with me is out right.

802
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 5: So this is fizzling. You can't just fizzle out. Now

803
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 5: you gotta restart again.

804
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: Wow you can. So you came on and tell ends

805
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 1: of that right right, right, right right, and now you're cracking.

806
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: Then I cracked. I cracked.

807
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 3: I know you didn't like the first time Nigga I

808
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 3: heard I said that Nigga got one whoever that is.

809
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: He got one. Yeah, because I ain't gonna hold you.

810
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: I never heard people disguise and that's crazy.

811
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 3: But later I think that I'm saying as a single,

812
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 3: I never heard them went straight to urban a see.

813
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 3: I never heard it as as a like a as

814
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 3: a single.

815
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 1: It wasn't the top forty record though.

816
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 3: But when beddrop, I was like, Oh, that nigga's cooking

817
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 3: and this record's crazy.

818
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 5: Say it was done, I said, I get it now

819
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 5: now mind you, And this is the genius for dream

820
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 5: mind you. The the lyrics are so simple that they

821
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 5: almost are frustrating, you know what I'm saying, because you

822
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 5: got to think on.

823
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: The sung the song over a thousand times. Yes, so

824
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: it's like it's slightly frustrating.

825
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 3: But it makes so much sense, bro, And it's a

826
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 3: it's a it's a full conversation. It's a full conversation.

827
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 3: Now the industry is changing for you. Then, I'm sure

828
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 3: from from you going on your promo run. Now, I'm

829
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 3: sure you got paid shows. No, no, nigga, no for

830
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 3: real for real promo tour, a real promo tour.

831
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: My band was getting paid yeah, but I wasn't.

832
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 3: No, no, no, So I was on my first tour

833
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 3: was as I think that's when we met.

834
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 1: So that's when we met.

835
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 3: I was about to say that, because if it was,

836
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 3: that's when we met. Funny enough, you got Jay Howidy

837
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 3: and Jay Valentide on the road with Keisha because I did.

838
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: I did. When I was mad. I was like, who

839
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: the fuck is this nigga? Because I wasn't mad. I

840
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: was mad. That's hilarious because.

841
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have known because you were still like me,

842
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 3: you never had any kind of absolutely issue or anything.

843
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 3: I would have known, you know what I mean, and

844
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 3: you know my person Andalely, I'm like, ohh.

845
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 5: But then once I heard the music, I was like, oh,

846
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 5: we're on different were on different different waves?

847
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, bro, it was. It was funny though, because

848
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 3: I remember Manny called me. Manny Haley called me.

849
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 1: He was like, she going out, She's going out. Want

850
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: you want to go out with it?

851
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm like, uh, I'm like when because

852
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 3: at the time, so my my situation was very different too,

853
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,720
Speaker 3: because I had already had I had an indie label

854
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 3: in the Bay gotcha that we were we were selling

855
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 3: off the trunk and I ended up getting a deal.

856
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 1: Different on the West Coast. Yeah, I ended up getting

857
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: a deal really on accident m where. I don't know

858
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: if you know the story, but long story short, I

859
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,919
Speaker 1: had taken I had taken a T Paint show.

860
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 3: I taken the TA Paint song I took I'm Sprung,

861
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 3: and I flipped it to a song called Go Down,

862
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 3: and it became huge on the West Coast, huge, huge,

863
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 3: and everybody offered me a record deal.

864
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: But I had no songs.

865
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 3: Oh that the only one that had Well, I had songs,

866
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 3: but I had them as a writer. Was because I

867
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 3: was coming from I was coming from my underdog days.

868
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 3: Because obviously my under dog days, we've written for everybody

869
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 3: you know, and I still had Underdog that's what, Yeah,

870
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 3: that's my start, me Damian Harvey. So I had these

871
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 3: records that I had written for, just written and wrote

872
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 3: for other people.

873
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: Maybe records didn't place or whatever. So when I go

874
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: into meetings, let's play those.

875
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 3: And every label already known me because I was a

876
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 3: writer and a producer, which was even wilder because I

877
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 3: didn't want a deal, and I told people, no, you

878
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 3: never wanted to deal, bro famous, No, I just wasn't.

879
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 3: It wasn't my It wasn't my It wasn't my thing.

880
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 3: I don't even think it was about hating fame more

881
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 3: than more than hating it, because I don't hate faans

882
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 3: and I don't feel like I'm famous now, but I

883
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 3: feel like for me, no, seriously, it's okay, live in

884
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 3: an interesting space, right because I'm not famous for singing

885
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 3: to me, that's a different type of thing. I got you, right, Like,

886
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 3: I'm becouse you are, but I know what you're saying, yeah, right,

887
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 3: Like I guess I'm becoming famous in a sense of

888
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 3: as a personality or our show now, right. So my

889
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 3: thing is I always wanted to just be able to

890
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 3: move around without anybody bothering me. Right, That that, to

891
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 3: me is is something that's our whole sacred. Yeah, it's

892
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 3: my piece, and I've learned how to deal with you know,

893
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 3: I'm super cool with anybody, say hello, how you feel?

894
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: Now? You want to take a picture. I'm cool.

895
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 3: I'm not stripping off none, none of that shit bothers me.

896
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 3: But I'm also older, right, I'm also older, and I

897
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 3: can handle it differently. So now all the same labels

898
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 3: that I've been pitching songs to playing records with are

899
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 3: like wait, ja did somebody take your name right, and

900
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 3: I'm like, did Jay Holliday nigga took my name? There's

901
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 3: this record that's crazy. There's this record that people don't

902
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 3: know we was. We was out at the same time time,

903
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 3: They're like, there's this record that's spinning called Go Dumb,

904
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 3: but they say it's Jay Valentine.

905
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, ah, yeah, that's me. What the fuck do

906
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: you mean that's you?

907
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 5: They didn't know that was you.

908
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 3: No, Bro, I had literally told every single label that

909
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 3: it tried to sign me.

910
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy. No, do you understand what I'm

911
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: about to say.

912
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 5: You've been in Silent Assassin for a minute, because when

913
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 5: you popped up with Tank, I'm like, yeah, always always gonna.

914
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: Figure my like he managed, Yeah, yeah signed Assassin.

915
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 3: Ship threw people off we first first when we first

916
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 3: did that part of our business where I can that's dope.

917
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: Congratulations, thank you, bro. I remember promoters being like that

918
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:21,919
Speaker 1: fun you like you? Yeah, that's great, bro, that's dope.

919
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 1: We got everybody now.

920
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 3: But that's how I ended up on that on that

921
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 3: run with you and Keisha, which obviously ship. It goes

922
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 3: back to people know on our show I was in

923
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 3: her first video, and it was a whole process with

924
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 3: her and I. So when she went on the road,

925
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, I'll do six shows, gotcha. Because

926
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 3: even in that Bro, I was already still my mind

927
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 3: was in another space.

928
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: You really trying to do that? No?

929
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 3: No, And I remember I remember, like it was yesterday,

930
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 3: you and I taking a taking a flight. We end

931
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 3: up on the same flight together going from San Francisco

932
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 3: to Seattle. Okay, we didn't show together and Seatt, I

933
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 3: mean we did six shows.

934
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: We did that. I did the West Coast run the Beauty.

935
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 3: I did the West Coast, and I remember us being

936
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 3: on a plane. I think at like six a m yeh,

937
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 3: that's still for me. And I'm like, nope, oh yeah,

938
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 3: I don't know.

939
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: I'm not there for thy thirty. I don't want to

940
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: do this. I remember that. People be like bro and

941
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: I were on that plane together. Why y'all leave so early?

942
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: Like I'm missing my whole day. Once I got stuff

943
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: to do.

944
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 3: I'm cool, And I think Seeattle might have been my

945
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:29,959
Speaker 3: last show.

946
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: That might have been my last dope as show too.

947
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: It was a dope pass. I think I got that

948
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: on cameras.

949
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 3: I'm good yeah, I'm like, I'm cool. That's crazy from

950
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 3: as far as like if I'm a performance point, where's.

951
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 5: The nigga decisions right there?

952
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: This crazy part that's rich people ship.

953
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 3: Giving me a lot of money. I ain't gonna listen,

954
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna hold you. But I had already had

955
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 3: the records with you know.

956
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 5: Mario's right, I wasn't getting paid ship.

957
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but I'm talking about from my label. I

958
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: got you.

959
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 3: So they gave me a They gave me a bowload

960
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 3: of money. Bro, they gave me a bowload of money.

961
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 3: So I was like, I'm cool. I don't this ain't

962
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 3: it's not about to be my life. And then I

963
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 3: was dealing with the label ship because they're always like shit,

964
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 3: you know that better than anyone, right, And I just

965
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 3: wasn't is the worst. I wasn't gonna fight for that.

966
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm cool because this is not This is

967
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 3: not how I envisioned my career going.

968
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 5: You know what, I'm I'm kind of upset now at

969
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 5: this point. Not I ain't gonna say I'm upset, but

970
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 5: disappointed in how I handled things. Was because I was

971
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 5: raised to always speak up. You know what, I'm saying.

972
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 5: But when you get an as system that you're not

973
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 5: wanting to say and then actually being in the system,

974
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 5: it's two different things, you know what, I'm different things, laws, rules,

975
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 5: right and all kinds of stuff. And it was just

976
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 5: a I know, your manager is always supposed to be

977
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 5: your best interests at heart, and it would be times

978
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 5: like but I don't feel like that. Why would you

979
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 5: tell them that?

980
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: So I gotta work the system. I get it, you gotta.

981
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: It's a give and take, given take, there is a

982
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: game to be played. I get it. But it's like.

983
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 5: I think, for a long time, people didn't really know

984
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 5: who I was. Like not the fans, I mean obviously

985
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 5: the fans don't, but like even if people dealing with

986
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 5: me within the business, like you, you know who I am.

987
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:30,720
Speaker 5: Like bro my mind, I think for myself. My manager

988
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 5: don't tell me much. He can he can advise me,

989
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, And I'm good.

990
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: At taking advice. You know.

991
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 5: You gotta make it make sense to me though, if

992
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 5: especially if it's something I don't want to do, like

993
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 5: I just absolutely don't want to do.

994
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: Just please just make it make sense. And I'm with you.

995
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: I got you.

996
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 3: But that's a tough part of it's a tough part

997
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 3: of management, right, So because I can speak from the

998
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 3: other side of it, right because so for me, you know,

999
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 3: I always joke, I'm like, man, that that that is

1000
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 3: my get the pivot.

1001
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: Is my Yeah, that's crazy. You know you did it that.

1002
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 3: Thank you, Bro, you did that, you know, And a

1003
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 3: lot of people doubted me from that standpoint. From a

1004
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 3: management side, it's just like, how how you can't manage?

1005
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 3: You can't be an artist. I'm like, well, I'm not

1006
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 3: an artist. They're like, oh. I was like, yeah, every

1007
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 3: now and then I put out a song because I

1008
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 3: just want to do music and I love music. But

1009
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 3: as far as you came yes being a professional artist

1010
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 3: chasing something, I was like, that's not what I'm on.

1011
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 1: Sure.

1012
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 3: And when I started to manage Tank Bro, I started

1013
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 3: the one reason obviously, me and Tank are always close

1014
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 3: from the underdog days. So that's what we start together. Yeah,

1015
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 3: that's just get We get close during the underdog days

1016
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 3: and end up, you know, starting to build our company together.

1017
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 3: And I'm watching how it's going from a management standpoint

1018
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 3: for him, and I'm like, okay, you got good managers.

1019
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 3: But I was like to me, you need a different

1020
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 3: type a manager. And this is just me and him

1021
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 3: having conversations as a friend and I'm watching the business

1022
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I think you need more of a

1023
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 3: creative manager, gotcha, other than a political political or even

1024
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 3: just a administrative you know, someone who just gets the

1025
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 3: deals done, like you need like what we have from

1026
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 3: us already writing songs together. I think that my creativeness

1027
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 3: can help even in how you go after.

1028
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: Your career, for sure. And he'd be like, Nigga, you can,

1029
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,720
Speaker 1: and he was like, you can't manage me. It's proof,

1030
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 1: the proof is right.

1031
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 3: But even he was saying it though, he was like,

1032
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 3: come on, come on, I'm like, Nigga, I'm a manager.

1033
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: Let you as a joke.

1034
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's something to take would due to a

1035
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 7: certain degree, to a certain degree really really, how I

1036
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 7: like got in was he was like, come on the

1037
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 7: road with me.

1038
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: And this was during TGT Nigga.

1039
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 3: That was my training ground, G G T three three personalities,

1040
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 3: the three maniacs, right, and I used to work for

1041
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 3: one yeah, and.

1042
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: G is probably the less the less.

1043
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 3: Of the other two away crazy right, So but he

1044
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 3: was like, come out on the road with us, because

1045
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 3: I had already written like multiple songs on the TGG

1046
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 3: album with them, and he like, come on the road

1047
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 3: with us, and it.

1048
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: Was all all my homies.

1049
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 3: I'm known Tyree's first because I did I like them

1050
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,959
Speaker 3: girls for him when we were eighteen in West Coast,

1051
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Like I had known G

1052
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 3: because I wrote I wrote something from G. I forgot

1053
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 3: the name of it, so I knew him. So I'm like,

1054
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 3: all right, bought my own ticket here, like we got

1055
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 3: a spot for you though if you get out here.

1056
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 3: I'm literally an intern.

1057
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: In a sense. Gotcha.

1058
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 3: I'm not being paid by anybody. None of those three

1059
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 3: guys are paying me to be there. But somehow, because

1060
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 3: of my relationship with all three, I ended up being

1061
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 3: the person that all their managers would be like, well yeah,

1062
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 3: G said, Tak said, Re said.

1063
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, well I don't, but these.

1064
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 3: Are my three homies, right, these are my great homies

1065
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 3: and I just want to help. So now somehow in

1066
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 3: the room and it's just us four, I'm like, what

1067
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,240
Speaker 3: the fuck? Im I ain't being paid, but I'm learning,

1068
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 3: and this is part of my maturation and really my

1069
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 3: education into.

1070
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 1: Being a manager. That's Curzy I can never be a manager.

1071
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: It ain't it ain't easy. Ever, it ain't easy, and.

1072
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 5: I'm no longer I'm like talking to people. Yeah, I'm

1073
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 5: no longer if I gotta get on the phone and

1074
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 5: makes you Yeah, but.

1075
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 3: I saw something different. I saw something different and what

1076
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 3: you're saying like I had. I think what helped me

1077
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 3: was having artist sensibilities, gotcha. I know how that six

1078
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 3: am flight is that you got to get up at

1079
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 3: three thirty or four o'clock in the morning. I know

1080
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 3: that you don't want to hear about certain shit at

1081
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 3: that time. I know that I just got off stage.

1082
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 3: I need to you know what I'm saying, And it's

1083
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 3: certain things that just as a business person, when I

1084
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 3: put myself on the business side of it, I get

1085
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 3: why they don't understand that people who just do business

1086
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 3: because they've never been in that.

1087
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 5: My manager was my NR Capital, good friend of mine,

1088
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:14,240
Speaker 5: so that's all like, and he understands. Yes, it's crazy.

1089
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 5: I shout out the right, Yeah, shout out to the

1090
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 5: rights man. But I didn't even know because he was

1091
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 5: He's the building nigga.

1092
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: That we talked like. You look at it, that's why

1093
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: you look at it and You're like, that's the nigga

1094
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: I gotta go talk to when I go to the building.

1095
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: And but he always cheated as.

1096
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 5: Good when he was in LA and all that, and

1097
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 5: always made sure he was straight. But man, when when

1098
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 5: she hit the fan, bro, it was him and two

1099
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 5: Kid Crawford bro T Kid Car was actually mym my

1100
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 5: radio rep, my national radio rep. So I asked him

1101
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 5: to jointly management. And you know, as time passed and

1102
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 5: Kid wasn't there no more. But yeah, man, he I

1103
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 5: think he under was He understood me as a person, right,

1104
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 5: because he never he never got to even when you

1105
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 5: with somebody and you you running them around the city

1106
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 5: and feeding them and all that.

1107
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 3: You know, really no, no, it's moments in time. Yeah yeah,

1108
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 3: it's literally it's literally just.

1109
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: Moments in time, man.

1110
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 3: And it's just it's interesting how things sometimes just come

1111
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 3: full circle in a whole different way.

1112
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 1: Right.

1113
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 3: And I remember when he told me he was managing,

1114
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 3: and I was like, that's actually dope, Like that's actually.

1115
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 1: Think he was going to do it, because when he

1116
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: left Capital, I thought he was done. Yes, he was

1117
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: doing a basketball thing. I was like, bro, yeah, yeah

1118
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: yeah he was.

1119
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 5: I need yeah, I need somebody to really know. Man,

1120
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 5: I need somebody because I had an artist manager. Are

1121
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 5: you oh you had an artist manager? Yeah, okay, Corey

1122
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 5: Green that was that was my manager. He was an

1123
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 5: absolute Yeah.

1124
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: I never knew that. Yeah, Coreky Green was my manager. Man.

1125
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: And so not saying now he I mean ship he

1126
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: got me.

1127
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 3: To And I was about to say, it's funny because

1128
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 3: I used always like, well, I'm the only artist manager.

1129
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: You know what my back court.

1130
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, he sold that his That's how I got

1131
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 5: on through his relationships with just being and yeah, absolutely,

1132
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 5: you know yeah, but.

1133
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I just.

1134
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 5: Think the riosis I understood it different. He understood me.

1135
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 3: Different, because that's that's really that's really what it is,

1136
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 3: right understan Having that relationship and that understanding, it don't matter.

1137
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 3: You can be the greatest manager in the world. You're

1138
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,760
Speaker 3: only as good as the client who respects and listens

1139
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 3: and agrees.

1140
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: For sure.

1141
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 3: To flat out, everybody's like, oh, yeah, I'm a I

1142
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 3: meet certain artists are like, yeah, man, I would love

1143
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 3: for you to this. Are you know I'm gonna go

1144
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 3: to such and such as a manager. I'm like, you

1145
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:41,320
Speaker 3: should get to know him first, right, Seriously.

1146
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: You think you're just about to jump into that book.

1147
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: You're not. And I've had you see something different when

1148
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,399
Speaker 1: I'm a managers artists that have pitched me like Jay,

1149
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: you can you and I knew the money was there.

1150
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 5: You probably know about taking now yeah that you didn't

1151
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 5: know just writing songs with him, You know what I'm saying.

1152
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Bro, that road, those those leaving that club

1153
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: at four in the morning, life, marriage, kids, all of

1154
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: those things are just different when you locked in like that,

1155
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

1156
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 3: So, but for me, I always tell people, bro, like

1157
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 3: as as a client, if you want to say those

1158
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 3: you want to use those technical terms.

1159
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: Tank was a guy send for me.

1160
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 3: He was a guy sent for me flat out, you

1161
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, as far as as an artist,

1162
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 3: and he said he's like man the ship that he

1163
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 3: listened to me on that he didn't have to gotch

1164
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like I didn't because also

1165
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't come through the path with Tank

1166
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 3: to make him tank right, So I get him at

1167
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 3: a different stage of his career. I helped rebuild it,

1168
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 3: but I wasn't there from the beginning, right, So I

1169
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 3: didn't have that either.

1170
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: So he could have easily just been like nig you

1171
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: don't know, or or use you against you. It's but

1172
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: I get so. I was always very understanding and respectful

1173
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: of of how he approached it with me. But that's

1174
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: her calling though, Yeah, what's crazy? You did it the

1175
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:20,760
Speaker 1: right way, because.

1176
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 5: It's like people that want to run a restaurant but

1177
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 5: it ain't never been a chef man, you know, you

1178
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 5: understand what I'm saying, but clean the table. You don't

1179
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 5: cook the food. You know, sat the people. Now you

1180
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:38,399
Speaker 5: understand how.

1181
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 3: To bury nothing in the music business, I would say

1182
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 3: at this stage of my life and career that I

1183
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 3: feel like I can't do or maybe even haven't done

1184
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 3: at least once tried. Like oh yeah, listen, bro, I

1185
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 3: didn't read people contracts for him. I'm not a lawyer,

1186
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 3: but I know terms.

1187
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: I know deal you know what I mean, like stuff

1188
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 1: you got to look for. But yes, but I'm talking

1189
00:56:58,880 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: about the.

1190
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 3: People that aren't haven't been my clients anything, just a

1191
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 3: friend like Jay, what do you think about hey man?

1192
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: Sense to me, that's crazy. You know what I'm saying,

1193
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: to stop giving away free no, no, no, no, I

1194
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: like I love giving away free game.

1195
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 2: Bro.

1196
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: That's why I wanted to do this show because I

1197
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: never really like to do panels.

1198
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 3: Panels are interesting to me because I'm a person that

1199
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 3: I'm like, I feel like i feel like people are

1200
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 3: just staring at me.

1201
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 1: I'm sitting up there talking and they're staring. I can.

1202
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: I can sit here and do it, but like to

1203
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: consistently do that the people. It's not even the people, bro.

1204
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: You kind of starts feeling like a little bit of

1205
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 1: a of a zoo animal fishing the boat. Yeah, make

1206
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: me laugh.

1207
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 5: I hate I don't like saying because of who I am,

1208
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 5: Like I was always in there everybody knew.

1209
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: Okay, you know what I mean.

1210
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 5: Like in high school, I was school with the athletes, cheerleaders, geeks,

1211
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 5: the choir.

1212
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: I'm in choir, so you know what I mean. Like

1213
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,439
Speaker 1: I was the dude everybody knew.

1214
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 5: But I guess when it's just oh life, it's not

1215
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 5: as as important because it didn't bother me like that

1216
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 5: with everybody doing me like Broad Dame and all that,

1217
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 5: and then social media and all that took flight, and

1218
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 5: it's just.

1219
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 3: Like, so how are you dealing with it on that

1220
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 3: first project? As far as seeing people change, right, because

1221
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 3: everybody's like, oh, what you change when it gigs cracked?

1222
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 3: No more so people around you change in the way

1223
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 3: people treat you changes more so than you actually change.

1224
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 5: Well, let me tell you the interesting part about that

1225
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 5: whole thing. Like, so, my father died when I was eleven, right,

1226
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 5: and from eleven to the time I got famous, my mom.

1227
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 1: Did like this with me.

1228
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 5: Nobody could reprimand me nobody could. So I was kind

1229
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 5: of the guy, you're the man in the house, you

1230
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 5: know what I mean, just just in general, just in fami.

1231
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 5: I couldn't get in trouble. I couldn't, you know what

1232
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 5: I mean. Not bragging about it, but it was just

1233
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 5: one of those things of I was her golden job. Yeah,

1234
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 5: it was very, very protective, very you know what I mean.

1235
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 5: So just that the look of the stairs and just

1236
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 5: people just to focus.

1237
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 1: Been on you. It had always kind of been kind

1238
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: of that. But I never wanted to be famous.

1239
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 3: Bron So do you think you okay, So let's let's

1240
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 3: go back there. If bed never happens, right, because obviously

1241
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 3: that led to fort never happens. Would you had have

1242
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 3: been satisfied singing you didn't even have to ask a question.

1243
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, my my one My one goal for

1244
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,919
Speaker 5: music was to have one song played on the radio.

1245
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 1: That was it. That was That was the extent of

1246
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 1: my dream. No ship to God.

1247
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 5: That was the extent of my dream. It wasn't the videos,

1248
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 5: it wasn't the war shows, it was none of that.

1249
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: It was I just won't hear you want to hear it.

1250
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: That was it. That was it. So I've I've over

1251
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 1: passed my goal multiple times. I'm good.

1252
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 3: Okay, the fame side of it, right, the the finance

1253
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 3: has changed your mindset though, of like oh shit, like

1254
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 3: I can really make a real living doing this.

1255
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 5: It does so more now because things are slower now,

1256
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying.

1257
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: So it's like.

1258
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 5: When people like that, you get asked the question like, oh, Jay,

1259
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 5: you've seen it? Mean Jay went to bed and never

1260
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 5: woke up type stuff.

1261
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: Right, I haven't seen that. That's literally okay, yeah, she

1262
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: went to bed and never woke up.

1263
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 5: However, I haven't worked with the job in twenty one years,

1264
01:00:56,160 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 5: so message and nobody's paying my bills, right, right, you

1265
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 5: do know what I'm saying. So, I mean, how many

1266
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 5: shows you do a year depends depends on the year.

1267
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 5: Do you do you have like a set out, like, Okay,

1268
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 5: I want to do fifty. I want to do twenty

1269
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 5: this year. I only want to do I try to

1270
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 5: be on the road every weekend. Okay, I try to,

1271
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 5: you know, try to do fifty two out the year.

1272
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 5: But you know, don't always happen like that.

1273
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and do you you're doing domestic and international? You

1274
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 3: just you're everywhere for the most part.

1275
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I'm more so domestic now, but you

1276
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 5: know I'm overseas every year, you know, either London or somewhere.

1277
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean. Twenty one straight years.

1278
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:38,959
Speaker 5: Yeah, we like we're about to go to the Cayman

1279
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 5: Islands May.

1280
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 1: It's a great life, bro. Yeah, that's a great life.

1281
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 1: Like I like it. You know. Like I said, I

1282
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 1: have artists sensibility, so I get I get the parts

1283
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 1: that aren't you know. Yeah, you know. But the fact

1284
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: that you can go out every weekend or every other

1285
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 1: weekend do a show somewhere.

1286
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,479
Speaker 5: Like this, my mom, I've been off for the last

1287
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 5: two weeks, but I'm about to go to work on Saturday.

1288
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and take care of you and your family. Yeah,

1289
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 3: that's incredible, bro. Congratulations you know, and I'm working on

1290
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 3: other stuff.

1291
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 5: But yeah, as far as my my, my, my, my

1292
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 5: center part of Jay Holiday and what the brand of

1293
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 5: Jay Holliday has.

1294
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 1: Been doing, Like, I'm cool. That's incredible, man, cool. You know,

1295
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 1: you could always want more, but but I'm slack. But

1296
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 1: I'm cool. I ain't got slack. I ain't got no complain.

1297
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 3: When you started to get into the second album, that's

1298
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 3: when you hit the fans. But you're coming off a

1299
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 3: Grammy nomination, Platinum songs go dolbum did.

1300
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 1: Go platinum too? Did them go going platinum too? Yeah?

1301
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 1: I mean as far as they said, it's been platinum. Yeah.

1302
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 3: See coming off of that sophomore jinx anything, those type

1303
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 3: of things you called the second round, round two, round two,

1304
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 3: and what happens because you said that's when he sh

1305
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 3: hits the fan, like what happens at the label.

1306
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: I almost said her name ship we.

1307
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 5: Got almost almost just said the name. Yeah yeah, but

1308
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 5: so there, So okay, So after Ronnie, after Ronnie Johnson

1309
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 5: passed away, there's a couple more different little things that's

1310
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 5: going on. Jason came over there, lawyer running a music business,

1311
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 5: I don't know, didn't make sense to me. But so

1312
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 5: then they broke it. They broke the label down into departments.

1313
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 5: It was no more label head, it was heads of departments.

1314
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 5: There was no president m and then they were doing

1315
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 5: that E one dials and all that stuff, and.

1316
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 1: Is the riots there? Then he's still no be the

1317
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 1: right spinner. Oh he's there. I left them for the rights, Okay,

1318
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 1: I made them release me made them.

1319
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 5: But so there was a woman that was in charge

1320
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 5: of marketing or I guess that was her, I want

1321
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 5: to say market and she literally came in trying to

1322
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 5: change who I was from what I felt comfortable in

1323
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 5: two you know what I mean, like just now, how

1324
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:16,919
Speaker 5: you like the artist's sensibility section.

1325
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 1: She didn't have none of that, but her mind, she's

1326
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 1: taking it to another level.

1327
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 5: I'm sure in her mind her ideas are gonna, yeah,

1328
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 5: gonna blow the ship up. And we just kept doing this,

1329
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 5: kept doing this, kept doing this, kept doing this, and

1330
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 5: so after round two came out because they I'll give

1331
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 5: you one example. So one example was to promote this

1332
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 5: album Ta Tatiana Ali is is getting back into the

1333
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 5: dating world.

1334
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 1: So she's going to do this thing on one of

1335
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 1: the one of it.

1336
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 5: No, no, it wasn't in reality show. It was like

1337
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 5: a like a like a it was like a piece

1338
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 5: on one of the uh. I can't remember naming the show.

1339
01:04:58,640 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 5: I don't even want to say the name of the show.

1340
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 5: But it was basically gonna be on the TV show

1341
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 5: that just talks about celebrities. I forgot the name of

1342
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 5: the show, but one of them type of joints. So

1343
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 5: she was gonna go on like three or four dates

1344
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 5: and I was supposed to be one of the day

1345
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 5: to day right, Okay, so I'm all right, cool, Well

1346
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 5: what they gonna be? So then, so one of the

1347
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 5: ideas was, yeah, you should like take her to a

1348
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 5: back boxing ring because I'm a boxing fan or whatever,

1349
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 5: so like take her to a boxing ring and.

1350
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 1: Then like let her knock you out. Right, I don't

1351
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 1: even make sentence.

1352
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 3: I will never let her knock me out advert for

1353
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 3: any reason, Like why would I do that. I'm not

1354
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 3: about to getting the ring of play boxing, Like, nah,

1355
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 3: why can't I take her to crust stations and sing

1356
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 3: to her at the piano.

1357
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that would have been easy.

1358
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 3: To Yeah, But so it was like these are the

1359
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 3: kind of things that are being brought to me, and

1360
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 3: I'm just like, bro, she don't get who I am

1361
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 3: at all, and it's.

1362
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 5: Just the bumper head bumper haas boomer head. So it

1363
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 5: basically was like, all right, time for a new album.

1364
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 5: I'm ready, y'all not ready release me?

1365
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 1: So this is before or after Round two?

1366
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 5: This is I'm doing doing the marketing for Round two.

1367
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 5: That was supposed to be in the marketing for a

1368
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 5: Round two and I'm not doing that. I'm not even

1369
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 5: sure if she ended up even doing the TV show

1370
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 5: or whatever, I don't know. I'm not doing that.

1371
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 1: Like that.

1372
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 5: We can come up with a better date than Yeah,

1373
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 5: we could come you mean, Ashley, Nah, we can come

1374
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 5: up with a better date than that. You're not about

1375
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 5: having me out here looking crazy, not at all, you know.

1376
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 5: So it was it's just it became a bumpinghead type

1377
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 5: thing and pause. But yeah, man, So after that, I

1378
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 5: was just like, bro, I gotta go. I'm now at

1379
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 5: this point because of the systems moving around and I'm

1380
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 5: gonna be stagnant here. There's no further I can go

1381
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 5: with this lip. I just didn't think it was possible.

1382
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 5: So I was like, you released have a plan though

1383
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 5: not at all. Shi not even in the least bit.

1384
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 3: Bro, not in the I respected like big, I just

1385
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,479
Speaker 3: want out, Yeah, because it was like I mean, because

1386
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 3: I wanted out.

1387
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 5: It just didn't make sense.

1388
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 1: So I get it. But I went through the same

1389
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 1: thing with that.

1390
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 5: The biggest thing for me was so all right, maam,

1391
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 5: we had bad suffocate cool, all right, we didn't do

1392
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 5: a third singles, got it? So then we put It's

1393
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 5: yours shout off the jazz shout yea mind you. I

1394
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 5: recorded my whole second album at my house by myself

1395
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 5: as an engineer, and on my whole album, I picked

1396
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 5: all the songs. I literally did the second on myself.

1397
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 5: They had to pay me to get the album. I

1398
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 5: was about to say they had to me to get that.

1399
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 5: They said, what's the album? If you want to know

1400
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 5: them to send the check first.

1401
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 1: So you charged back studio to the house, the whole thing.

1402
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:00,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, but nothing, no, none, crazy, I'm like, fun, I

1403
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 5: think of I probably could have gotten a lot, yeah,

1404
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 5: but I the number I gave him imber like, yeah,

1405
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 5: they sent.

1406
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 1: That joint right away. Oh you want five hundred dollars,

1407
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 1: So I mean I could have got a lot more.

1408
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 5: I wish I would have, but so all right, So

1409
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 5: we put out ISSH Yours and then I had a

1410
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 5: song with Rick Ross before Rose. This is right before

1411
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:25,600
Speaker 5: you changed, like going by to Riggy Rose. But it

1412
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 5: was I had a song called blah lah bout smoking

1413
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 5: Weed or whatever, and it would have been a record,

1414
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 5: and they just put a hard stop on me.

1415
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 1: Bro, they just stopped supporting me. So I was like,

1416
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 1: release me.

1417
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 5: When you look back on it now, as a matter

1418
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 5: of fact, I'm sorry, I take that back. We were

1419
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 5: ready with the second single. They didn't want to put

1420
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 5: a second single out. Release me.

1421
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 3: So that's why I asked, when you look back on

1422
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:52,679
Speaker 3: when you look back on the now, do you feel

1423
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 3: like you should have stayed in it?

1424
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 1: No? No, never compromise who you are, Okay, never, Well

1425
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 1: for me, that's I believe that. This is how I

1426
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:02,679
Speaker 1: was raised.

1427
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 5: And the minute you start and you see it, the

1428
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 5: minute you start saying yes to stuff you don't want

1429
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 5: to say yes to, more things that you don't want

1430
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 5: to say yes to start popping up.

1431
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 1: Yes. So to stop that, you gotta filter it out.

1432
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 1: You gotta filter that shit out.

1433
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:23,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, So you know what was next when you when

1434
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 3: you once you get your release because that's not a

1435
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 3: that's actually that's not an easy thing either.

1436
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 1: It's a full process.

1437
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 5: I don't even know who's making decisions at Capital at

1438
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:34,839
Speaker 5: that point in time. If I was them, I wouldn't

1439
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 5: have let me go, but I would have just dropped

1440
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 5: the single. Let's figure out how we can get him

1441
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 5: back on it.

1442
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 1: But you became a headache for him.

1443
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:46,799
Speaker 5: When you're good at what you do as an artist,

1444
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:51,599
Speaker 5: you talk like that, you moved like that, you feel

1445
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 5: like that. And I just think that I knew too

1446
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:58,600
Speaker 5: like I knew too much about just the intricacies of

1447
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 5: just being a being an artist. Manother label. Man, I

1448
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 5: don't have to say yes to this, But if you

1449
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 5: don't say yes, something might not something might not get done,

1450
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 5: you know. And that's just something I just have to

1451
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 5: live with. But so after that, I ended up getting

1452
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:14,560
Speaker 5: signed to death Cham, which nothing happened. But that's the

1453
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 5: whole nother story.

1454
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 3: As you do end up going and doing another deal though, Yeah,

1455
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 3: but you never put that out model over there.

1456
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 5: Look who I was competing with, Dream Neil Kanye, they

1457
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 5: had it. They had a full load at the time,

1458
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 5: and and I was signed by somebody that left. I

1459
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 5: was like their last label.

1460
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:36,560
Speaker 1: Well no, not even that.

1461
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 5: It was like I'm leaving, but I can get the

1462
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 5: boy some money real quick. Oh so it was kinda

1463
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 5: just really like yeah, yeah, yeah, no that that was

1464
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 5: more of a play than anything.

1465
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, would never mattered.

1466
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:49,600
Speaker 5: So I wasn't that broken again, Yeah, yeah, it was

1467
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 5: a play.

1468
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:52,960
Speaker 3: And are you doing are you still at that point?

1469
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 3: Are you still doing shows all the time or you're

1470
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 3: kind of even there?

1471
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? I know now obviously you know, no, I was

1472
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:03,440
Speaker 1: still I was still doing shows.

1473
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 5: At some point in time, I was doing I was

1474
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 5: doing like overseas stuff, like for a minute, I was

1475
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 5: doing a lot of overseas stuff. But yeah, man, man,

1476
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:17,759
Speaker 5: this this industry ain't for the for the week.

1477
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 1: Not at all, not at all for the week. Bro.

1478
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 3: Now you're independent right after the right after the depth, damn, Jill.

1479
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:26,679
Speaker 3: I was on de John for three and a half games.

1480
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 3: I don't know why I sat for so long.

1481
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 1: Wait wait wait, wait is two and a half or

1482
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 1: three and a half high.

1483
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 3: The guy who got the deal or put it in place,

1484
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 3: leaves who went to go through X Factor. Okay, but

1485
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 3: they keep you for almost three years just on the show,

1486
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 3: not working on the album or anything.

1487
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:51,680
Speaker 1: I ain't know. I never went to the building. Come on, bro,

1488
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 1: you never.

1489
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 5: I had no contacts there. I had no contacts for

1490
01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 5: three years. But that's that's also that'sn't follow management. That's

1491
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 5: the fault on me. That the Rise was my manager

1492
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:07,719
Speaker 5: that make that click. The Rise was not my manager.

1493
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:11,560
Speaker 5: That was management fault. That was a lot of that

1494
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 5: was business stuff, Like I was a little reckless out here,

1495
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:21,640
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, rocking with niggas, girls and

1496
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 5: shit like that. Like, so it came to a point

1497
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 5: where niggas had to be like, put me in my place,

1498
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 5: I guess you know what I'm saying. So the the

1499
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 5: the people that made the decisions, not at the label.

1500
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 5: There's nobody at the label, but just impersonal close circle

1501
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 5: type shit. Sit just got messy, man, Sit just got messy.

1502
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 1: Bro. Yeah yeah, she got messy, bro, But nah, I mean,

1503
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 1: how do you out of that deal? Though? To release me?

1504
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 1: I wanted to put on mo okay and they did.

1505
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 5: So Basically what happened was, I'm like, I know, y'all

1506
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:54,720
Speaker 5: aint got focused. Y'all can't focus on me right now,

1507
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 5: so I'm just drop songs, dropping songs dropping songs.

1508
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 1: Dropping songs, you know, blocked every song. I was like,

1509
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 1: what I'm not sign.

1510
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 5: This is me not even thinking about the umbrella. Like yeah,

1511
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 5: I wasn't thinking about the umbrella, but yeah, they kept

1512
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:17,679
Speaker 5: blocking it. So I was like, oh, nah, y'all blocking

1513
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 5: what I'm trying to put out, like mixtapes. I was

1514
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 5: putting on mixtapes and stuff like that, but they won't

1515
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 5: put anything out. But y'all won't put none out.

1516
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:31,760
Speaker 1: Release me fucking music business. Yeah, what's next for you now?

1517
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 1: With me?

1518
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 3: What it like? Obviously, like you said, you stay on

1519
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 3: the road, you stay working. What's the next for you

1520
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 3: in the game that you you like? Okay, this is

1521
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:43,679
Speaker 3: something I want to go after, something I'm chasing.

1522
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 5: So one of my I'm a big movie buff, right,

1523
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 5: so it's not many movies I haven't seen, but like

1524
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 5: I always wanted to do scripts. I wanted to be

1525
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 5: a writer, write scripts, stuff like that. So I have

1526
01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 5: a script now that I'm about to stop start shopping around.

1527
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 1: That's dope.

1528
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:03,600
Speaker 5: That sh it is not easy, but no it's not.

1529
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,599
Speaker 5: I was working on that I con mentioned seven years. Man,

1530
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 5: I just couldn't I couldn't focus to finish it. But

1531
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 5: I finally finished. I finished it in like three days,

1532
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 5: like you know what, I'm about to do it. But

1533
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 5: so I thought about it and I was like, you

1534
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 5: know what, before I let this script get lost in

1535
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 5: the sauce, let's make a name for the script. So

1536
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 5: I converted it to a book. So my next thing,

1537
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:27,600
Speaker 5: I'm about to drop a novel. Yeah, I'm about to

1538
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 5: drop a novel. It's called Karma. Yeah, man, just see

1539
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:32,640
Speaker 5: what that do. But other than that, I got my

1540
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:34,640
Speaker 5: artist Rico Anthony.

1541
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 1: Or you didn't. You didn't jumped on the executive side,

1542
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 1: Oh for sure? Sure?

1543
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, no, Like I love music, I just don't

1544
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 5: want to be there the face no more. I mean

1545
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 5: like I'm about to get off stage all that, Like

1546
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 5: I'm cool.

1547
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 1: Are you here? I'm cool.

1548
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 5: I'm cool, bro, like shit, real talk, man, I mean,

1549
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 5: but not just like you put other things in place first,

1550
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. But I'm not about to

1551
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 5: be Frankie Beverley. I'm not I'm not doing this. I'm

1552
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 5: not on stage at seventy.

1553
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 1: I'm cool. I'm straight eighty. I'm cool. Bro.

1554
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 5: I love it, but not that much, right, you know

1555
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 5: what I mean? Like, I absolutely love music. I love

1556
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 5: the creative process.

1557
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 3: I'm glad you said that, because I think some people

1558
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 3: don't understand you can love music and not do it

1559
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 3: that way, yeah, for sure, or not do it professionally

1560
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 3: as an artist, as a singer, as an active performer,

1561
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 3: because I get it all the time.

1562
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 5: Bro. Like I got four albums. Bro, the two of

1563
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 5: them don't. I don't really an independent heart. But two

1564
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 5: of them aren't really you know what I'm saying.

1565
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 1: They not really known.

1566
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 5: One of them never got played. That's a whole nother story.

1567
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 5: When you talk about the industry, that there's an album

1568
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 5: that should have dropped that didn't. That would have been

1569
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 5: a turning point for my career vocally, everything would have been.

1570
01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:58,720
Speaker 5: It would have been a turning point. So that and

1571
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:01,640
Speaker 5: where you saw it that stigmatized me.

1572
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 3: No, I was.

1573
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 1: I was independent on the duney.

1574
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 5: So basically what I was like, you know what I'm saying,

1575
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 5: I'm like, you know, you deal with people in the industry,

1576
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:09,640
Speaker 5: and then you're like, I don't really want to do

1577
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 5: business with them. But it's like, but maybe if I

1578
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:16,599
Speaker 5: come in from an executive standpoint and not an artist standpoint,

1579
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 5: doyn't respect me a little more, you know what I mean,

1580
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 5: or things will play different because now it was executive. Nah,

1581
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 5: still was still the same games and and all of that. Like, Bro,

1582
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 5: I'm not your artist no more, I'm your partner. Oh

1583
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:31,560
Speaker 5: that's a whole other con treating like a partner or

1584
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 5: this is gonna go left. Yeah, So people in this

1585
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:38,639
Speaker 5: industry that like to choose to do what they want

1586
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 5: to do and mess with people's live goods. Yeah, he

1587
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:45,520
Speaker 5: blocked album and gave a song to BBD.

1588
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 1: And it's just a lot of stuff going shit. So

1589
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 1: BBD's most recent single is Incredible. That was on my album.

1590
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 5: So look up the song incredible. Okay, look up the

1591
01:16:56,560 --> 01:17:02,599
Speaker 5: BBD song Incredible and yeah, like and then you start

1592
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:06,679
Speaker 5: giving away songs from that album. That type of stuff

1593
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 5: that goes on in the music industry.

1594
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:09,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, absolutely if.

1595
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 5: People get hurt for it, but you know, you gotta

1596
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 5: you gotta take things like a grand of salt, bro, because.

1597
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 3: What do you see as far as when you guys started,

1598
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 3: when we got started, right as far as we were

1599
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 3: you know, we were out around the same time at

1600
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 3: that time.

1601
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:29,640
Speaker 1: To now, like what in R and B music and

1602
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 1: the outlook on it for you know the artists that

1603
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 1: are in it now.

1604
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 5: Oh man, I mean it's some dope stuff going on,

1605
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. Obviously everybody know about Leon

1606
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 5: Thomas of course you know I rock with Bruno. I mean,

1607
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 5: I think he's probably my part. But now that we're

1608
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:45,640
Speaker 5: keeping him, hey, we.

1609
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 1: Get gotta go. But you know what I'm saying, I

1610
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:52,640
Speaker 1: think that subject matter is getting lost. You know what

1611
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like the real storytelling and the storytelling and

1612
01:17:55,960 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 1: the love now is its sound all mad? You know

1613
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:01,640
Speaker 1: what I mean?

1614
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 5: Like it's so toxic, you know what I mean? And

1615
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 5: no shots to Leon Thomas blood the song much joint,

1616
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 5: but it's like.

1617
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:15,559
Speaker 1: Subject matter mm hmm.

1618
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 6: I mean.

1619
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 1: It's you have to find a feeding to our kids.

1620
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 3: You have to find a happy medium though right where

1621
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 3: you know what what is what's the climate? Yeah, and

1622
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:34,640
Speaker 3: where you fit into the climate right because you know,

1623
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 3: I know Leon and I know Leon is going to

1624
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 3: always veer back to those love I can't record as

1625
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 3: a hit record, you know what I'm saying, as a

1626
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 3: hit record, so mad. That's why I'm saying that, Like,

1627
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 3: you know, and I think what what what happens is?

1628
01:18:57,080 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 3: Like I said, you find your space to where you

1629
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 3: can get your voice big enough to get off what

1630
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 3: you really want to for sure, as you know, as

1631
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:10,559
Speaker 3: the time goes, because I'm watching it with Kaylney and.

1632
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 1: It's so crazy because I know I am going to

1633
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 1: do at least one more album. I am.

1634
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 5: I'm already putting together records for it. Okay, but it

1635
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:26,599
Speaker 5: this transitions into me talking about this subject matter wise, it's.

1636
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:28,720
Speaker 1: For me.

1637
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 5: On this album, it's going to be more focusing on

1638
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 5: like the struggles of life, the struggles of love, not

1639
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:39,679
Speaker 5: necessarily just mad.

1640
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 1: And angry, but.

1641
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 5: Like I got a song called Malcolm where I'm basically like,

1642
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:52,919
Speaker 5: somebody got to speak up. Bro, nobody's saying enough. Everybody's

1643
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:56,600
Speaker 5: just letting everything just happens, just happen, you know what

1644
01:19:56,640 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 5: I'm saying. So I got that song, and then you

1645
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 5: know a song called Blowed out the Window, which is

1646
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:04,360
Speaker 5: basically like young you know, smoke one man, let that

1647
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 5: ship go, bro, like focus on the positive, yeah you.

1648
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:08,639
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.

1649
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 5: So just trying to be more more more inspirational and

1650
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:14,600
Speaker 5: stuff bright, not no gospel stuff, but but you know,

1651
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 5: just trying to change mindset a little bit.

1652
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you know, I'm known for sex records, so yeah,

1653
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 1: you're which is crazy as my company is called Young

1654
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 1: Mogulm Incorporated.

1655
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:32,120
Speaker 5: Since day one, the sex level, like you know what

1656
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:33,600
Speaker 5: I mean, Like I've been on the I've been on

1657
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 5: my Magamax ship and all that.

1658
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 3: But but I think as artists, as creative, it's just

1659
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 3: about showing that you can do more for sure, you know,

1660
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:45,439
Speaker 3: and what connects?

1661
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 1: What is what connects?

1662
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 3: Right because we are multifaceted humans, absolutely right, So it's

1663
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:51,880
Speaker 3: it's never one thing.

1664
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it can't be. I'm agatting.

1665
01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 5: I'm definitely I'm going to transition into this and like

1666
01:20:57,280 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 5: you said, and this this TV and film, and I'm

1667
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:02,719
Speaker 5: probably not gonna touch the podcast.

1668
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 2: But but.

1669
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, like.

1670
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 5: These ideas up here, bro, if you decide to do nah,

1671
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 5: I'm gonn let y'all. I' gonna let y'all had a

1672
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 5: because you got to think you never wanted like y'all

1673
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 5: got in. Y'all got in before it got too saturated.

1674
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:24,599
Speaker 3: It's so funny, man, people say that for us maybe

1675
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:26,639
Speaker 3: because I don't I don't know, I don't, I don't,

1676
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 3: I just I.

1677
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 1: Just look at it like it's a genius idea, so

1678
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:29,880
Speaker 1: thank you.

1679
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:34,440
Speaker 3: But I look at it as fucking genius information, absolutely

1680
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:37,600
Speaker 3: right and I And I'm a person who has always

1681
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 3: had a want in thirst for information, right I always

1682
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:43,680
Speaker 3: you know, I've been inquisitive since I was a kid.

1683
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 3: So I think when people have different takes on stuff,

1684
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 3: it can never be the same. Like, you know, because

1685
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 3: I've heard that a lot lately where people are like, man,

1686
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 3: you know, since R and B money now is R

1687
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 3: and B this and RB And I'm like, yeah, well

1688
01:21:58,320 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 3: that's good to me.

1689
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 1: Is but I'm gon tall.

1690
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 5: I'm gonna tall why I see different because just from

1691
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 5: seeing the repertoire people that y'all have had, new to

1692
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:12,559
Speaker 5: old y'all, y'all are giving people a chance to catch

1693
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 5: up with folks, to see what's going on with them.

1694
01:22:15,080 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 5: Not no drama, shiit, not no no bullshit. It's just like, well,

1695
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 5: folks just want to know, yes, what's going on, what's

1696
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 5: been going on, what you got going on, what you're

1697
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 5: about to do and some place. Some people try to

1698
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 5: do that with interviews, especially when like if A R

1699
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 5: and B d is on a just a random podcast,

1700
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 5: they're gonna try to do the same thing. But it's

1701
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:40,720
Speaker 5: different because one, I'm getting a better understanding of just

1702
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:42,799
Speaker 5: your R and B chops.

1703
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:43,920
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1704
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 5: You know, I try not to be into me people business, whatever,

1705
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 5: but you know, I mean, I know, Tank, you know

1706
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like, y'all are doing it justice because

1707
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 5: y'all actually have the no y'all know, agreed.

1708
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 1: Nobody in R and B come on here and telling

1709
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 1: y'all y'all wrong. I'm sure we've been wrong. They are.

1710
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 1: Some people think that we are.

1711
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 3: Listen, I'm humble enough, bro to know what I don't

1712
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 3: know and know that I don't know it all right,

1713
01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:16,479
Speaker 3: So but you know, R and B.

1714
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:21,799
Speaker 1: I do know. I know, you know, we do consider

1715
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:22,839
Speaker 1: ourselves the authority.

1716
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:23,679
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1717
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 3: You know, Bro, I just like I said, it's just

1718
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 3: been big for us to create this space for us

1719
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 3: for sure, because I don't want to say for you,

1720
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 3: I got.

1721
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 1: To talk right. I'm like, Bro, they're gonna get me

1722
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 1: on the joint.

1723
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 3: Bro.

1724
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:37,639
Speaker 1: I was like, I was about to buy a flight

1725
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 1: and everything out there.

1726
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:42,600
Speaker 5: I'm like, and I've told pieces of this story on

1727
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:44,679
Speaker 5: different places at different times.

1728
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:47,600
Speaker 1: Guess what, everybody's not gonna get seen? Like y'all. I

1729
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 1: need this story to be told here. Yeah, yeah, you

1730
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:51,839
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

1731
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 5: Because I know folks is checking for y'all, so now

1732
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:56,280
Speaker 5: y'all can really get the story. And I was like,

1733
01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:57,640
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna say no names, none of.

1734
01:23:57,640 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 1: That, because but we're gonna get to that.

1735
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:05,560
Speaker 5: We can't no, no, no, but but yeah, you know,

1736
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:08,600
Speaker 5: like I wasn't. I know, some people come on this

1737
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 5: to specifically try to be like no, it was.

1738
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 1: Damn and uttered men, like we tried to stay away

1739
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 1: from that.

1740
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 2: You know.

1741
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 1: That's means, yeah, we try to stay away from that. Man.

1742
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 3: We you know, we want to we want to stick

1743
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 3: to the journey and to you know, the flowers and

1744
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:27,679
Speaker 3: the appreciation. This is. This is not an easy life

1745
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 3: and career that we've all chosen. It's just not it's not, bro,

1746
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 3: but it but it is. But it it I don't

1747
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:35,919
Speaker 3: know what else it's meaningful.

1748
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 1: It is. It's meaningful, Bro. What what you do means

1749
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 1: a lot? What did you what you do for people?

1750
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:46,200
Speaker 3: When people get a chance to have the experience to

1751
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:48,840
Speaker 3: see you, to hear it live to you know what

1752
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 3: I mean, Like, it's it's it's magic, you know, I

1753
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 3: said it all the time.

1754
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 5: I said, it's funny to you said that, because to

1755
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 5: this day, to this day, I'm still like, wow, I'm

1756
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 5: never gotten to the point where I'm like, yeah, I

1757
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:09,640
Speaker 5: mean you do me, but it's still especially for me

1758
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 5: and having things slow down or whatever whatever, like to

1759
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 5: see what the crowd be doing.

1760
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:17,800
Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, I feel good. I'm glad.

1761
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 3: I'm glad you have embraced that, bro, because you know,

1762
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 3: I you know it just in us talking and just

1763
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 3: just knowing you. I know how you feel about fame

1764
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 3: and how the ship in the industry and all that,

1765
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:29,800
Speaker 3: but like the really important.

1766
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:31,719
Speaker 1: Thing, No, that feel good. The stage is my place.

1767
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 1: That's people. That's the one thing that's been keep me here.

1768
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:40,519
Speaker 5: It's the stage. It's the stage, bro. Like stage is different.

1769
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 5: There can't no drug compete.

1770
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, now this is a that light is different and

1771
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:48,679
Speaker 1: no drug compete.

1772
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 3: Bro.

1773
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:52,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that light and that that appreciation. What what

1774
01:25:52,600 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 1: the what the what the people do for us for me? Man?

1775
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 3: Even just getting it from walking through the airports somebody

1776
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 3: they're like, hey, man.

1777
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 1: I'll be put it. No, No, what's funny is people

1778
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 1: you know, like I stopped.

1779
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 3: I hate pictures. Yeah, I hate pictures. I don't take

1780
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 3: pictures of myself with everybody. I will take a picture

1781
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 3: with everybody in just because.

1782
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 1: I always make people get in the picture.

1783
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 5: And I tell anyone of that story every time. I

1784
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 5: was at the mall one time with my friends. No,

1785
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 5: this is jeez, jeez on, I'm in high school.

1786
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 1: That cheap.

1787
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, bodyard taking pictures today?

1788
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 1: That hurt? I tell him. I tell him this to

1789
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 1: this day.

1790
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:47,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's it, hurt, bro, You can't be out.

1791
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 1: It's crazy because g takes all the pictures, you know, now,

1792
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:57,160
Speaker 1: I bet he do. But nah, but so and after

1793
01:26:57,240 --> 01:26:58,800
Speaker 1: every time, I'm telling them the story all time. But

1794
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:00,559
Speaker 1: it just.

1795
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 5: You can make a person day. Yeah, you could make

1796
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:08,080
Speaker 5: day day. They might be about to go burn some

1797
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:10,880
Speaker 5: ship down right right, you know what I mean. They

1798
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 5: might be about to do the worst man, And yeah.

1799
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 1: That for me, I make the day. Bro.

1800
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 3: I'm always just like they're like, oh, can I take

1801
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 3: a picture. I'm like, yeah, with me, come on, get in.

1802
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 3: But I don't want nobody just doing this.

1803
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 1: Oh you don't want them doing that? No, no, no, no, no,

1804
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:23,760
Speaker 1: you gotta get this.

1805
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 5: I just my face be the same in every picture.

1806
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 5: But but yeah, like not about to start going looking

1807
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:36,479
Speaker 5: like this same a Medican. You're not gonna smile. You

1808
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 5: asked for the picture. Man smiled for him.

1809
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:42,200
Speaker 1: Man, nobody change the day you just said that. Yeah

1810
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:46,479
Speaker 1: the picture. See I'm halfing half you know. But you

1811
01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:48,720
Speaker 1: give them the step or no, no, never go give

1812
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 1: the steff face. Never to step on now.

1813
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 5: If you're disrespectful, you're not getting nothing.

1814
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:56,920
Speaker 1: But but you know, I feel like we create the

1815
01:27:57,200 --> 01:27:59,639
Speaker 1: environment for sure. I don't think. I don't think artists

1816
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 1: sometimes look at it that way.

1817
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:04,599
Speaker 3: But it's like if somebody, if you get funny style

1818
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 3: with him, it turns other than.

1819
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 1: When you're like, oh no, man, I've never seen nobody just.

1820
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 5: Go there yelling on folks. And I'm like, bro, yeah

1821
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:14,600
Speaker 5: it's straight, and look at me.

1822
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 1: What's wrong with your body? Guy?

1823
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 5: I'm like, man, I don't know what's wrong, but you

1824
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:19,679
Speaker 5: gotta do it. He gotta do a job. You gotta

1825
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 5: do a job. Yeah, like sibiling mine, he's just he's

1826
01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 5: no nonsense. Yeah, Tank security is no nonsense too. But

1827
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 5: I was I was like, I was like a couple

1828
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 5: of mo and then's lying all the way back there. Man,

1829
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 5: it's cool to let him do it, bro, It's part

1830
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:40,599
Speaker 5: of the job. Let him do it, man, part of job.

1831
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 1: Okay, So you spoke on your artists, give us, give

1832
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 1: us a little more insight. Oh man, all right.

1833
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:49,200
Speaker 5: So Rico Anthony Man, he's from Oklahoma City. He like

1834
01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 5: my brother, bro, like we call each other.

1835
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:52,559
Speaker 1: Been rocking for a minute.

1836
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, we been wrong for a minute. And so he

1837
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:57,280
Speaker 5: was going through the same system that I went through

1838
01:28:57,320 --> 01:29:02,000
Speaker 5: with the same people. Okay, didn't work out because you know,

1839
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:04,680
Speaker 5: people change, man, and people's focus as far as how

1840
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 5: they want to do business changes.

1841
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:10,400
Speaker 1: So he kind of got like stunned with that. So

1842
01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:11,519
Speaker 1: I was just like, Bro, I got you.

1843
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like, it's one of those

1844
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:17,439
Speaker 5: things for me, that's his that's his dream.

1845
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:19,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's he going to round. I got to

1846
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:21,639
Speaker 1: help you when he can. You know what I'm saying.

1847
01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:23,720
Speaker 5: He drive tucks, you know what I'm saying, Like for

1848
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:25,280
Speaker 5: his job and stuff. But you know what I'm saying,

1849
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:31,640
Speaker 5: working working on getting to the big show. But he

1850
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:35,000
Speaker 5: came in where things changed with a streaming streaming now

1851
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 5: and it's not so much labels anymore. So you know

1852
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:40,360
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, we're working out those Kinks man. But

1853
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:42,479
Speaker 5: other than that, man, he got he got some stuff. Man,

1854
01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:43,320
Speaker 5: he got some stuff coming.

1855
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:43,439
Speaker 4: Bro.

1856
01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:45,320
Speaker 1: That you that you want to you want to share

1857
01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:47,599
Speaker 1: your life for sure? Absolutely. Yeah.

1858
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:49,760
Speaker 5: Anytime he is with me and I'm on the road,

1859
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 5: shout out to Rico Anthem, come grab the mic.

1860
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah.

1861
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:55,639
Speaker 3: So you have a certain record or anything that you're

1862
01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:59,519
Speaker 3: pushing for right now or a project coming, I.

1863
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 5: Mean here you know, oh yeah yeah, I mean it's

1864
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 5: it ain't even titles yet, bro, We're just trying to

1865
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:06,160
Speaker 5: get the records done. You know, a lot of that

1866
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:09,240
Speaker 5: finding a sound thing. It's different with sound changes. It's

1867
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 5: like I don't like that sound no more. So it's okay,

1868
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:15,040
Speaker 5: well let's go this way or whatever. But no, it

1869
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:18,080
Speaker 5: just be just stay tuned, bro, go to my page.

1870
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 5: I I am R and b Rico. Yeah that's that's

1871
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:24,559
Speaker 5: him man, and he do his thing. Man, he can sing.

1872
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:27,479
Speaker 5: Good dude on his death, you know what I mean,

1873
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:30,200
Speaker 5: trying to could have been a part of a different life.

1874
01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:31,639
Speaker 5: Trying to keep him out of that life.

1875
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:36,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, like free man, So it saved us this music.

1876
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:40,080
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeahs so you know what I mean, I know,

1877
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:41,360
Speaker 5: God willing Man, it's gonna happen.

1878
01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:44,080
Speaker 1: So and you got you in a fashion now too well.

1879
01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:47,479
Speaker 5: So, so what I did was when I did the

1880
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:50,840
Speaker 5: Soul Trading Board pre show a couple of years ago.

1881
01:30:51,640 --> 01:30:53,599
Speaker 5: It's just like, bro, like we ain't been on shit

1882
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:55,760
Speaker 5: in a minute. It's got me a statement whatever whatever whatever.

1883
01:30:56,360 --> 01:30:58,439
Speaker 1: Now you did your thing too, so appreciate it.

1884
01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:01,640
Speaker 5: So we just started making these I m R and

1885
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:05,479
Speaker 5: B shirts And it's not like I'm I'm the genre,

1886
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:07,519
Speaker 5: but it's but you're represented.

1887
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:10,200
Speaker 1: Want to know what I do? Yeah, I m R

1888
01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:11,640
Speaker 1: and B. So that it's just I m R and

1889
01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:15,559
Speaker 1: B calling co but nothing, nothing, nothing major, just shirts,

1890
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:17,840
Speaker 1: just shirts and so gotch bro, got you? Got you?

1891
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:19,640
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm on to you.

1892
01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:20,160
Speaker 2: Are you know?

1893
01:31:21,960 --> 01:31:22,800
Speaker 1: The authority at you?

1894
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 5: But yeah, so you know, And it was more so

1895
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:29,800
Speaker 5: started at something for me, just costume type ship, but

1896
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:34,000
Speaker 5: people asking, Yeah, people be asking where can I get

1897
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:35,880
Speaker 5: the shirt out of So then that's when we started

1898
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:37,839
Speaker 5: trying to get into the mass producing.

1899
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:40,760
Speaker 3: No, I love that, bro, I love that all right.

1900
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:42,280
Speaker 3: Before I let you out of here, man, I gotta

1901
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:44,120
Speaker 3: got some other ship to tanks for them all.

1902
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:53,479
Speaker 1: Fuck them all, bro, man like his brother something that.

1903
01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:08,960
Speaker 2: Yes, that time, your top five, yeah five, your top

1904
01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:15,600
Speaker 2: fun what is want to be using us already songs?

1905
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:20,600
Speaker 2: We've got to do one and know before you go

1906
01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:22,000
Speaker 2: there wrong.

1907
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:22,879
Speaker 1: This show.

1908
01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:28,559
Speaker 3: Something he should have never got with Jamie because Jamie

1909
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:29,519
Speaker 3: made him into a mania.

1910
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:38,600
Speaker 1: He said, I've never been around Jamie. Top five, I

1911
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:48,720
Speaker 1: could see that or you top yo. Dave Chappelle needs

1912
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:51,519
Speaker 1: to put this on the New Chappell Show. I mean

1913
01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:54,360
Speaker 1: that would be great. That's the way that will be

1914
01:32:54,479 --> 01:32:55,080
Speaker 1: fuddy great.

1915
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:58,800
Speaker 3: I will be fuddy oh so yeah, man, we're gonna

1916
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:02,680
Speaker 3: get it to your time music five history and and

1917
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:05,000
Speaker 3: and uh and the things you love?

1918
01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:09,920
Speaker 1: Top five R and B singers and R and B songs.

1919
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:12,880
Speaker 1: Let's start with the singers. Who are your top five singers?

1920
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:17,120
Speaker 5: Brother, top five singers, I mean, of course Marmon Gay,

1921
01:33:17,439 --> 01:33:21,759
Speaker 5: but come on, Marvin Sam Donnie, Marvin sam Donnie.

1922
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:25,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my top three for sure, but two more

1923
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:28,840
Speaker 1: to see. It's not fair because there's too many great ones.

1924
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:31,799
Speaker 1: But it's your list, damn. All right. I mean obviously

1925
01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 1: we know tail and sing We know you could sing

1926
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:37,160
Speaker 1: Tank top five Yeah, Tank you for sure.

1927
01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:42,439
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, come out, because we're talking about how I

1928
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:46,840
Speaker 5: feel about their music or them singing. Are we talking

1929
01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:48,599
Speaker 5: about sangers or just singers?

1930
01:33:49,160 --> 01:33:50,760
Speaker 1: It could be both. It's up to you.

1931
01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 3: Some people have chosen people who are like styling type

1932
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:56,679
Speaker 3: of singers, or people chose people are like flat foot,

1933
01:33:57,520 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 3: blow you off.

1934
01:33:58,160 --> 01:34:00,640
Speaker 1: The water singers, or you know, I think it's just

1935
01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:06,679
Speaker 1: your favorite. Well okay, so yeah, Marvin, Sam Donnie for sure. Tank.

1936
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:09,599
Speaker 5: I'm not just saying this because I'm on the on podcast,

1937
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:12,599
Speaker 5: but Tank one of them official ones. And I mean,

1938
01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:14,800
Speaker 5: you want to say Luther, but it's like I wasn't

1939
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:16,840
Speaker 5: really a I didn't really listen to Luther like that,

1940
01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:17,599
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.

1941
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:22,200
Speaker 1: Luther had a different music for different people. Mama. I'm

1942
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:24,640
Speaker 1: just said R Kelly bro cows.

1943
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:32,479
Speaker 5: And when that's all, it's he's the best singer. I

1944
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:35,720
Speaker 5: mean there's people that can that can blow pause, that

1945
01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:40,599
Speaker 5: can sing better than Kelly. But that's your top five

1946
01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:42,960
Speaker 5: R and B bro like this influential.

1947
01:34:43,960 --> 01:34:48,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, amazing, top fivey it's crazy, but yeah, top

1948
01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:48,559
Speaker 3: five R.

1949
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:50,200
Speaker 1: And B songs songs.

1950
01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:53,479
Speaker 5: Man, Man, I don't think I can Okay, yes I do, Yes,

1951
01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:56,599
Speaker 5: I can read ready on d I ah.

1952
01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 1: That song over of.

1953
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:04,880
Speaker 5: Course, Donnie Uh, I can pick any of his songs,

1954
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:09,479
Speaker 5: but a song for you, song for you, definitely, definitely favorite,

1955
01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:14,920
Speaker 5: long time coming. I think that's a lot of people's favorites.

1956
01:35:15,479 --> 01:35:19,920
Speaker 5: That's the same cluck. Obviously, that's four, that's three.

1957
01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:20,400
Speaker 1: That's three.

1958
01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:24,720
Speaker 5: Well I said, I said, ready for Love, A long

1959
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:26,560
Speaker 5: time coming, A song for you for you?

1960
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:30,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, those three. I love Marmon Gaye, but my favorite

1961
01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:33,360
Speaker 1: song would be a song people don't really know. Then

1962
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:36,160
Speaker 1: that's what we wanted. We want to know because it's yours.

1963
01:35:36,479 --> 01:35:38,639
Speaker 1: It's not nobody else's. Five is yours.

1964
01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:42,400
Speaker 3: And what I found is that when we when we

1965
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:45,720
Speaker 3: find those album cuts and those you know, those B

1966
01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:48,400
Speaker 3: sides is what they call them at times, a lot

1967
01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:49,599
Speaker 3: of people go research them.

1968
01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:51,600
Speaker 1: So if you got you know, you got no.

1969
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:54,120
Speaker 5: I will say, Marmin because this and this and love

1970
01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:59,080
Speaker 5: a live for sure, but what a bonus joint? A

1971
01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:02,840
Speaker 5: bonus joint, Lauren Hell X Factor brood that record.

1972
01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:06,280
Speaker 1: It's not bonus because that's fine, That's that's it. I

1973
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:09,040
Speaker 1: feel like that was SI. That's fine, that's fine, that's fine,

1974
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:14,240
Speaker 1: good cool, that's fine. But yeah, man, no, you ain't done.

1975
01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 1: I ain't no, because I got I got another schegmentment.

1976
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:21,240
Speaker 1: We're doing worse now, I'm not trying to do that.

1977
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:27,240
Speaker 3: We're gonna build We're gonna build a vultron, an R

1978
01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:31,760
Speaker 3: and B vultron, the ultimate R and B singer where

1979
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:36,479
Speaker 3: you give us the vocals, the performing style, the styling meaning,

1980
01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:39,519
Speaker 3: the drip, the flying this, and the passion of the artists,

1981
01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:45,880
Speaker 3: those four elements how many people it can be all

1982
01:36:46,040 --> 01:36:48,320
Speaker 3: one person if you feel like that, it's the ultimate artist.

1983
01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:50,880
Speaker 1: But it's four different We're building a mad artists are

1984
01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:55,840
Speaker 1: female artist, it don't matter. We're we're we're are building.

1985
01:36:57,479 --> 01:37:02,360
Speaker 3: A massive superstar R and B artists with all the

1986
01:37:02,479 --> 01:37:09,040
Speaker 3: top of the top. So first, who gonna sing the songs?

1987
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:11,000
Speaker 1: Who? That's crazy that my top five can't be part

1988
01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:12,920
Speaker 1: of that. They can't one of them. Know I'm saying no,

1989
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:17,800
Speaker 1: they can't. Because when you're taking pieces of different people,

1990
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:20,759
Speaker 1: that's the thing you take. Yeah, that's different. You're building

1991
01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:24,320
Speaker 1: a vote trunk. Oh man, Okay, pat at Tank he

1992
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:26,800
Speaker 1: came up with this, Okay, Now it's cool. It's cool

1993
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:28,240
Speaker 1: because he's not gonna be in the vote.

1994
01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:28,479
Speaker 2: Time.

1995
01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:30,679
Speaker 1: Who sanging? Who you're singer?

1996
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:31,120
Speaker 3: Now?

1997
01:37:31,200 --> 01:37:33,759
Speaker 5: You know what I'm gonna go there, Patty Gobell singing,

1998
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:37,400
Speaker 5: Patty singer, Yeah, Patty singing.

1999
01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:38,600
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, but.

2000
01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:42,840
Speaker 3: That's I'm like, we got the Patty vocal performing style.

2001
01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:49,719
Speaker 1: Who's gonna kill the stage? Fantastic? Oh ship, Yeah, okay,

2002
01:37:49,880 --> 01:37:55,439
Speaker 1: I see what that's all like. This is all the drip.

2003
01:37:55,680 --> 01:37:58,400
Speaker 5: I'm gonna give him Brandy drip. I'm gona give him Brandy, Brandy,

2004
01:37:58,479 --> 01:38:01,040
Speaker 5: Brandy's dripping Brandy fly brand.

2005
01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:03,679
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, but I was about to rechurch to the singer,

2006
01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:04,160
Speaker 1: but I'm.

2007
01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:12,320
Speaker 3: Like an, Okay, who got the passion?

2008
01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:17,599
Speaker 1: Who who? Who's gonna make you feel it? That's gonna

2009
01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:27,280
Speaker 1: say me? But I can't because okay, man, no I here, yeah, yeah, yes,

2010
01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:32,040
Speaker 1: absolutely great double little votes.

2011
01:38:32,280 --> 01:38:36,840
Speaker 3: Right, you gave all male singers the top five singers,

2012
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:39,439
Speaker 3: but then you've built a female vote tron.

2013
01:38:40,479 --> 01:38:42,679
Speaker 1: Well see this is the thing. I love it though,

2014
01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:43,400
Speaker 1: This is the thing.

2015
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:46,280
Speaker 3: I don't know why people just like women winning now

2016
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:48,800
Speaker 3: and no that women always been winning, been winning. Come on,

2017
01:38:48,880 --> 01:38:52,719
Speaker 3: bro always, They've always been the powerhouse of vocal place.

2018
01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:57,760
Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, yeah, like they they they can, but

2019
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:01,240
Speaker 1: they just I think it's uh a little more lopsided

2020
01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:04,439
Speaker 1: now Yeah, for sure, it's it's absolutely you know what

2021
01:39:04,479 --> 01:39:10,120
Speaker 1: I mean, Niggas get their ask kicks because the niggas

2022
01:39:10,120 --> 01:39:11,519
Speaker 1: need to ask kick when it comes to R and B.

2023
01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:15,000
Speaker 5: The women is well, my biggest thing is because when

2024
01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:18,439
Speaker 5: all came out, I wanted to be the neighborhood, you

2025
01:39:18,479 --> 01:39:20,640
Speaker 5: know what I mean. So I wasn't really with the

2026
01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:23,600
Speaker 5: dress up and all that and dah dah. But I

2027
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:28,559
Speaker 5: think now it's just becoming true. Like like I said,

2028
01:39:28,640 --> 01:39:33,519
Speaker 5: subject matter, women want to be loved on man, They want.

2029
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:34,960
Speaker 1: To be loved bro for sure.

2030
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:36,840
Speaker 5: So now you've got the women like all this mess

2031
01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:41,560
Speaker 5: the relationship. Fuck these niggas that are they quite killing it?

2032
01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:53,400
Speaker 1: That's fair killing it. That's fair. I got a random

2033
01:39:53,479 --> 01:39:55,720
Speaker 1: question for sure, and I don't know if it's sure

2034
01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:58,360
Speaker 1: or not, but I'm asking you. I know you're East African.

2035
01:39:58,760 --> 01:40:01,639
Speaker 1: I'm not, so you're not I'm not. So that's a rumor.

2036
01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:06,840
Speaker 5: It's a it's a well documented understood rumor. Because my

2037
01:40:07,080 --> 01:40:11,680
Speaker 5: my government name is is Now, which is basically it's

2038
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:15,720
Speaker 5: a biblical name, but a lot of Ethiopians so you're

2039
01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:18,439
Speaker 5: not using No, I'm not. And because I have that

2040
01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:21,639
Speaker 5: name and I'm from d c That's why. That's why

2041
01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:25,160
Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm not. I get that all the time.

2042
01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:34,519
Speaker 1: They're like like not opp I'm not, And I'm like,

2043
01:40:35,400 --> 01:40:40,200
Speaker 1: what's crazy. I could have been a dighead and I

2044
01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:42,000
Speaker 1: never have to anybody.

2045
01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:48,280
Speaker 3: But that's crazy because I definitely it's not authentic. That's

2046
01:40:48,320 --> 01:40:51,040
Speaker 3: not so with your You just said it because I

2047
01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:53,719
Speaker 3: was won't lead to that. You said your your government.

2048
01:40:54,040 --> 01:40:56,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, where the hell does Jay Holliday come from?

2049
01:40:57,640 --> 01:41:00,639
Speaker 5: So the J stands for James. That was uncle James.

2050
01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:03,040
Speaker 5: He passed away when I was a kid. He was

2051
01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:07,040
Speaker 5: like everybody's favorite uncle. But Boe, we were just trying

2052
01:41:07,040 --> 01:41:08,960
Speaker 5: to figure our names, like nigga, we cannot call you now,

2053
01:41:09,120 --> 01:41:12,960
Speaker 5: so I mean we could have, but you know, you'd

2054
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:17,479
Speaker 5: be trying to think it's something clever. And so the

2055
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:23,880
Speaker 5: holiday came basically from when people we're just like trying

2056
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:27,559
Speaker 5: to you know, whether it was marketing or or whoever,

2057
01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:29,960
Speaker 5: just anybody heard my voice just like, bro, I don't

2058
01:41:29,960 --> 01:41:31,760
Speaker 5: even have to explain it, just play it.

2059
01:41:32,360 --> 01:41:36,719
Speaker 1: I got this kid. So they felt like they weren't

2060
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:40,280
Speaker 1: at work. Yeah, I felt like they was on holiday.

2061
01:41:40,360 --> 01:41:42,720
Speaker 1: So that's where that came from.

2062
01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:44,400
Speaker 5: And then you know, the day. It was just like

2063
01:41:44,479 --> 01:41:46,240
Speaker 5: he died when I was so young. Man, he died

2064
01:41:46,280 --> 01:41:49,439
Speaker 5: from a dad. So he died in ninety one, you know,

2065
01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:51,120
Speaker 5: just trying to keep his memory life.

2066
01:41:51,160 --> 01:41:52,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's dope, bro.

2067
01:41:53,240 --> 01:41:56,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's funny because that literally makes our name

2068
01:41:56,600 --> 01:41:57,439
Speaker 3: the exact same.

2069
01:41:58,800 --> 01:42:04,040
Speaker 1: Aalentine is Outiday, right, we have the same name. We do.

2070
01:42:04,680 --> 01:42:07,479
Speaker 5: That's crazy nah, but yeah, man, So you know it

2071
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:10,200
Speaker 5: was just because we and we went through other like

2072
01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:13,320
Speaker 5: it was always holiday. But it was just like that

2073
01:42:13,400 --> 01:42:16,320
Speaker 5: don't make sense, but it had to mean something like

2074
01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:18,639
Speaker 5: we're not just making up a name, bro, Like we're

2075
01:42:18,640 --> 01:42:19,120
Speaker 5: not gonna do that.

2076
01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:21,920
Speaker 1: So and this was when you became a solo artist,

2077
01:42:22,200 --> 01:42:24,360
Speaker 1: right when you're in a group. I'm not telling you.

2078
01:42:27,640 --> 01:42:36,280
Speaker 4: She got come on, bro, give me the explosive doctor, right,

2079
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:38,960
Speaker 4: so massing flex when he dropped dropped the ball.

2080
01:42:38,920 --> 01:42:43,439
Speaker 5: Man so again, so again and this is another full

2081
01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:46,200
Speaker 5: circle moment. But like so, like I said, when I

2082
01:42:46,240 --> 01:42:50,360
Speaker 5: was in the group, we we wanted to compete with

2083
01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:51,519
Speaker 5: the ship.

2084
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:55,479
Speaker 1: You was like a fizzle. No, I was am with

2085
01:42:55,560 --> 01:43:01,040
Speaker 1: the A instead of oh that it's on me h.

2086
01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:10,000
Speaker 1: That us. So you're Maria Mari y'all you stupid, you're

2087
01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:13,639
Speaker 1: fucking no. But that was fucking great.

2088
01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:16,760
Speaker 5: But everybody so we didn't do it on purpose. We

2089
01:43:16,880 --> 01:43:19,920
Speaker 5: really didn't do it on purpose, but everybody in the

2090
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:22,840
Speaker 5: group ended up having names that were like their common

2091
01:43:22,920 --> 01:43:26,439
Speaker 5: parts and B two k us. We had a we

2092
01:43:26,520 --> 01:43:32,920
Speaker 5: had to be red, We had a haze my face.

2093
01:43:34,160 --> 01:43:41,040
Speaker 1: Don't nah, you're not sending hit about this ship. Bro. Oh,

2094
01:43:41,120 --> 01:43:43,960
Speaker 1: this is fucking great. And what was the name of

2095
01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:48,479
Speaker 1: the group, bro, stupid as hell? No, but I'm playing,

2096
01:43:48,479 --> 01:43:48,800
Speaker 1: I'm playing.

2097
01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:48,880
Speaker 5: No.

2098
01:43:49,000 --> 01:43:51,200
Speaker 1: It was two ninety five, the Highway back home.

2099
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:56,160
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, all right, So y'all was following suit

2100
01:43:56,200 --> 01:43:58,519
Speaker 3: in there, Okay, all right, but the B two k

2101
01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:00,439
Speaker 3: A they sent.

2102
01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:04,200
Speaker 5: Names they can't wow. But see in our mind because

2103
01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:07,760
Speaker 5: you got things, we were singers, right, we sang no.

2104
01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:11,519
Speaker 1: They can't with us. That's how y'all was puffing your

2105
01:44:11,600 --> 01:44:12,920
Speaker 1: chest up very much, solf.

2106
01:44:14,200 --> 01:44:16,680
Speaker 5: So we couldn't dance like them. We could dance, but

2107
01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:18,800
Speaker 5: we wasn't doing that. We wasn't doing what they was doing.

2108
01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:21,800
Speaker 5: But yeah, that was that was our mindset. We're gonna

2109
01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:23,519
Speaker 5: come in, were gonna knock them out the box.

2110
01:44:24,439 --> 01:44:33,240
Speaker 1: And still there never happened. Never happened. Yeah, I'm so

2111
01:44:33,479 --> 01:44:37,559
Speaker 1: glad I asked that. This is damn I have dodged

2112
01:44:37,600 --> 01:44:41,519
Speaker 1: that question for my entire career. This is ood, bro,

2113
01:44:42,520 --> 01:44:44,759
Speaker 1: all right, maybe before that's my playing.

2114
01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:50,639
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, it's not funny funny, I got, I got,

2115
01:44:50,920 --> 01:44:52,360
Speaker 3: I got one more segment, man.

2116
01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:55,479
Speaker 1: You know you might listen. You know, I got I

2117
01:44:55,520 --> 01:44:57,200
Speaker 1: got still in here. You might want to take a

2118
01:44:57,200 --> 01:44:58,920
Speaker 1: sip before we before we get to this one.

2119
01:44:59,000 --> 01:45:02,920
Speaker 5: Man, please, yeah, to give me a shot, because you

2120
01:45:03,040 --> 01:45:06,720
Speaker 5: know what, let me what we got for you's supposed.

2121
01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:07,120
Speaker 1: To be that funny bro.

2122
01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:08,519
Speaker 5: It was.

2123
01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:13,519
Speaker 1: It was good. We really, we really we didn't even

2124
01:45:13,720 --> 01:45:16,360
Speaker 1: mean to do that. I don't even know why the

2125
01:45:16,439 --> 01:45:18,800
Speaker 1: fuck that I even name myself. This is great, bro.

2126
01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:21,040
Speaker 1: One I don't have Amari, didn't have ship to do

2127
01:45:21,120 --> 01:45:26,360
Speaker 1: it anything. Man, I never I never knew. I never

2128
01:45:26,479 --> 01:45:30,800
Speaker 1: knew you was about right, Broy. This is so, this

2129
01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:33,519
Speaker 1: is uh, this is still Jim, This is doctor Dre.

2130
01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:35,200
Speaker 1: This snoop Dog.

2131
01:45:36,280 --> 01:45:39,920
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I ain't a drink drinker, but no, don't.

2132
01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:43,200
Speaker 3: It's just a little dad for you, you know, give

2133
01:45:43,240 --> 01:45:45,840
Speaker 3: him on poor nigga. All right, all right, all right,

2134
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:48,439
Speaker 3: all right, yeah man, it's smooth.

2135
01:45:48,439 --> 01:45:54,960
Speaker 1: I feel like, what's okay? So we got another another segment. Man,

2136
01:45:55,160 --> 01:45:57,479
Speaker 1: you said take the top. You can you can't because

2137
01:45:57,479 --> 01:45:58,640
Speaker 1: I feel like it's about to be some bulls. You

2138
01:45:58,680 --> 01:46:02,320
Speaker 1: can take you where while replace this this this amazing tune.

2139
01:46:03,960 --> 01:46:09,559
Speaker 1: Come on a saying no nick, saying no names, saying

2140
01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:11,599
Speaker 1: no names, saying no name?

2141
01:46:14,880 --> 01:46:15,599
Speaker 4: What you did?

2142
01:46:16,280 --> 01:46:16,800
Speaker 5: Don't say?

2143
01:46:16,920 --> 01:46:29,960
Speaker 1: She ain't say no name? Damn? Something wrong with m man.

2144
01:46:30,479 --> 01:46:32,280
Speaker 1: So we had a very special part of the show.

2145
01:46:33,160 --> 01:46:35,880
Speaker 1: Will you tell us a no note? Go ahead? Now,

2146
01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:37,719
Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead, tell the story. I take another

2147
01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:40,760
Speaker 1: ship a story. He tell us a story funny or

2148
01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:45,639
Speaker 1: fucked up or funny and fucked up. The only rule

2149
01:46:45,760 --> 01:46:50,719
Speaker 1: to the gay it's Jay Holiday. I can't say no names,

2150
01:46:51,080 --> 01:46:54,160
Speaker 1: but I can't tell that. Sorry, I mean you ain't

2151
01:46:54,160 --> 01:46:55,479
Speaker 1: say my name. I can't tell that story.

2152
01:46:55,800 --> 01:47:00,720
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, that would be one of them, Like, why

2153
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Speaker 3: would you tell that story?

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01:47:02,320 --> 01:47:03,360
Speaker 1: Why would you tell that story?

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01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:04,160
Speaker 2: You know?

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01:47:04,400 --> 01:47:08,840
Speaker 1: We don't we don't want I don't want, no problem. Shit, Okay,

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01:47:08,960 --> 01:47:11,799
Speaker 1: story time. Let me see funny. You're fucked up, funny

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01:47:11,800 --> 01:47:14,599
Speaker 1: and fucked up. This is actually fucked up. Okay.

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01:47:14,680 --> 01:47:18,439
Speaker 5: They shouldn't have done this, but so coming from the

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01:47:18,479 --> 01:47:22,800
Speaker 5: strip club, coming from that come over about two about

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01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:24,639
Speaker 5: two two o'clock, two thirty in the morning.

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01:47:25,439 --> 01:47:27,880
Speaker 1: So I don't know if you've.

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01:47:27,760 --> 01:47:30,280
Speaker 5: Ever been taught this, like with security guards and whatever whatever,

2164
01:47:30,320 --> 01:47:32,439
Speaker 5: but they're like at night, if you buy yourself, don't

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01:47:32,439 --> 01:47:38,280
Speaker 5: stop in no real lights. Okay, all right. So so

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01:47:38,360 --> 01:47:41,120
Speaker 5: I'm driving, I'm like, all right, I'm a little tipsy.

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01:47:41,160 --> 01:47:43,560
Speaker 5: So I'm like, the safest way for me would be

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01:47:43,600 --> 01:47:45,840
Speaker 5: p Stree. Ain't gonna be nothing on Peachtree, you know

2169
01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:50,679
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. I can just cruise whatever. So I'm driving, driving, driving, driving, driving.

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Speaker 5: It's car in front of me, and you know how

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01:47:54,400 --> 01:47:59,719
Speaker 5: the light turning yellow. H so, you know, light turning yellow,

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01:47:59,760 --> 01:48:02,320
Speaker 5: car in front of me. I'm like, they're about to

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01:48:02,320 --> 01:48:05,240
Speaker 5: go through the light. My dumb ass, I should have

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Speaker 5: went around them because I'm not supposed to be stopping

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01:48:07,439 --> 01:48:10,639
Speaker 5: that red lights mm hmm. But my ass like, I'm

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01:48:10,640 --> 01:48:13,479
Speaker 5: gonna let them go and just stop at okay.

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01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:19,080
Speaker 1: So I looked down. I hit the niggas, but it

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01:48:19,160 --> 01:48:22,400
Speaker 1: was like a my foot is on the break.

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Speaker 3: But but the two in the morning crash feels like, yeah,

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01:48:27,320 --> 01:48:31,840
Speaker 3: a power nigga yeah, I'm wish.

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01:48:32,320 --> 01:48:36,519
Speaker 5: So yeah, So I mean, long story short about five niggas,

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01:48:36,560 --> 01:48:39,519
Speaker 5: get off the car. Young niggas though, these like what

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01:48:39,680 --> 01:48:40,479
Speaker 5: we call white hands.

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Speaker 1: Now yeah, I'm like, oh no, I'm not about to

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01:48:45,080 --> 01:48:47,400
Speaker 1: have none of this conversation. Absolutely not.

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01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:53,320
Speaker 3: Hit the gas. I'm out of here. Absolutely them niggas

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01:48:53,320 --> 01:48:54,880
Speaker 3: don't want to exchange information.

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01:48:56,160 --> 01:49:01,120
Speaker 1: They want and I'm strapped in everything. But I'm like, nay,

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01:49:02,200 --> 01:49:05,519
Speaker 1: that doesn't end well. P street ball. So I'm like

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01:49:05,640 --> 01:49:10,280
Speaker 1: all right, and so they in Alexis, I'm in. I'm in.

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01:49:12,760 --> 01:49:15,599
Speaker 5: I'm in a Cadillact but like the uh the crossover

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01:49:15,680 --> 01:49:20,920
Speaker 5: turn oh this floating floating right, I'm like, I'm about

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01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:21,840
Speaker 5: to get them nigga.

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01:49:23,080 --> 01:49:23,960
Speaker 1: They on me.

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01:49:25,479 --> 01:49:30,519
Speaker 5: Oh so now I'm like, all, I gotta now what's crazy?

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01:49:30,600 --> 01:49:31,720
Speaker 5: Is I ended up coming this way?

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01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:34,200
Speaker 1: Well? Why am I telling this story?

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01:49:36,040 --> 01:49:40,400
Speaker 5: So I turned on tenth, I turned on tenth, I

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01:49:40,520 --> 01:49:42,800
Speaker 5: make a right on hour Meal and then I'm turning

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01:49:42,920 --> 01:49:50,080
Speaker 5: left on Chattahoochee. But I'm hitting me bones, I skirt back,

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01:49:50,320 --> 01:50:00,560
Speaker 5: pop my tire. Mind you, these niggas are still So

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01:50:00,720 --> 01:50:03,160
Speaker 5: I'm like, fuck now, I'm like, now I'm I'm you know,

2203
01:50:03,400 --> 01:50:03,960
Speaker 5: like you want it.

2204
01:50:06,720 --> 01:50:07,800
Speaker 1: Like rim type shit.

2205
01:50:09,280 --> 01:50:10,720
Speaker 5: So I'm like, fuck, this shit can't go to now

2206
01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:13,800
Speaker 5: the tires off. It's like a rim and a piece

2207
01:50:13,840 --> 01:50:16,800
Speaker 5: of rubber in the middle. So they capsuled to me,

2208
01:50:16,880 --> 01:50:20,719
Speaker 5: but they pulled past me. Dumb Susisien. This is crazy.

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Speaker 5: I can't believe I did this. So they pulled past me.

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01:50:24,479 --> 01:50:25,760
Speaker 5: So now at this point, I'm like, fuck, I'm not

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01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:29,040
Speaker 5: to shoot. And he still ain't no conversation at this point,

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01:50:30,400 --> 01:50:33,080
Speaker 5: so but I didn't shoot. So they waited and they

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01:50:33,160 --> 01:50:36,439
Speaker 5: looking They're facing that way, and I'm like, but I

2214
01:50:36,600 --> 01:50:41,160
Speaker 5: know the area, So I'm like, you don't really know

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01:50:41,240 --> 01:50:43,639
Speaker 5: the area like that. But so there's a bank that's

2216
01:50:43,680 --> 01:50:46,080
Speaker 5: not too far from here on once you get back

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01:50:46,120 --> 01:50:49,600
Speaker 5: on the main road, and I basically just bucked the

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01:50:49,720 --> 01:50:51,800
Speaker 5: U turn and hit the side street. But I'm in

2219
01:50:51,920 --> 01:50:54,759
Speaker 5: the grass though, so I knock over a sign.

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01:50:56,439 --> 01:50:57,400
Speaker 1: It's not funny, man.

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01:50:59,200 --> 01:51:02,200
Speaker 5: So I knock over a sign because now they got

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01:51:02,320 --> 01:51:05,240
Speaker 5: to turn around. I buck, do you turn my lights off?

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01:51:05,920 --> 01:51:07,880
Speaker 5: I don't hit the sign because I like, I know

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01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:10,760
Speaker 5: exactly where I'm going. So I basically just drove to

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01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:14,439
Speaker 5: the studios that's at the next street up there, which

2226
01:51:14,479 --> 01:51:16,479
Speaker 5: is crazy. So I made it right right there. Call

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01:51:16,600 --> 01:51:19,200
Speaker 5: my girl and it's like, bro, you gotta come give me.

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01:51:19,360 --> 01:51:22,600
Speaker 5: I can't my tired flat. I ain't even feel like

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01:51:22,600 --> 01:51:24,439
Speaker 5: I was drunk. I ain't feel like changing spare none

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01:51:24,479 --> 01:51:29,320
Speaker 5: of that, but bro, it was so The funny part

2231
01:51:29,360 --> 01:51:33,760
Speaker 5: about the story that is funny is about two three

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01:51:33,840 --> 01:51:37,920
Speaker 5: weeks later, I'm at a show and my manager come

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01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:39,360
Speaker 5: up to me, and manager at the time, Corey, come

2234
01:51:39,400 --> 01:51:42,760
Speaker 5: up to me. It's like, you got an accident on

2235
01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:46,519
Speaker 5: P Street. I'm like, I don't fuck you know that

2236
01:51:47,479 --> 01:51:49,160
Speaker 5: his son go to school with the niggas I hit

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01:51:51,400 --> 01:51:52,719
Speaker 5: and they recognized who.

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01:51:52,640 --> 01:51:59,000
Speaker 1: I was, yo, dead ass, And I said, how do

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01:51:59,280 --> 01:52:01,000
Speaker 1: you know about that? You know? I was like, yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: I hit these new niggas man, and I have to go.

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01:52:03,080 --> 01:52:04,040
Speaker 1: I have to get home. Bro.

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01:52:04,520 --> 01:52:05,880
Speaker 5: It was like, yeah, I think Jay Holli they hit

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01:52:05,960 --> 01:52:06,439
Speaker 5: me last week.

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01:52:07,080 --> 01:52:08,600
Speaker 1: It was one of it was one of it was

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01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:11,320
Speaker 1: one of them type yeah. Because so his son told

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01:52:11,400 --> 01:52:14,160
Speaker 1: him and he told me. I was like, so okay, no, no,

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01:52:14,280 --> 01:52:16,679
Speaker 1: and he was driving his mama car. That was even worse.

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01:52:16,560 --> 01:52:19,840
Speaker 3: Because here's the other part though, When you when you

2249
01:52:20,040 --> 01:52:23,080
Speaker 3: dipped out, you lost them. You end up losing them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: No, so once I bucked that, you turned to turn

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01:52:25,920 --> 01:52:27,320
Speaker 5: the lights off. They never called back up to me.

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01:52:27,439 --> 01:52:29,800
Speaker 5: Oh ship, but they like she handled it up.

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01:52:30,360 --> 01:52:32,519
Speaker 1: I didn't think they. I didn't think they because I

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Speaker 1: never got off the car. So I'm like, how the

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01:52:35,960 --> 01:52:40,120
Speaker 1: fuck they even know it was me? Oh man, Okay,

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01:52:40,160 --> 01:52:43,360
Speaker 1: I got ghosts on the ass. Bro. Wow. Yeah, but

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01:52:44,200 --> 01:52:46,799
Speaker 1: it worked out. Though it worked out. No, that was horrible.

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01:52:46,920 --> 01:52:49,720
Speaker 5: Never never hit and run, bro, Yeah, don't do that,

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01:52:50,680 --> 01:52:53,080
Speaker 5: and a number of situations, but yeah, especially not in

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01:52:53,120 --> 01:52:58,200
Speaker 5: no vehicle. Yeah, that's not cool in the way. What's

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01:52:58,280 --> 01:53:00,320
Speaker 5: and what's funny is they wasn't even why you. They

2263
01:53:00,400 --> 01:53:04,200
Speaker 5: was in college, look right, they got all like a

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01:53:04,280 --> 01:53:06,439
Speaker 5: nigga hit there. Yeah yeah, you know what I mean.

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01:53:06,520 --> 01:53:10,280
Speaker 1: But nigga was three o'clock in the morning. I'm drunk, Yeah, yeah,

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01:53:10,400 --> 01:53:13,000
Speaker 1: all of it. I'm cool a bunch of gucci. Ship.

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01:53:13,840 --> 01:53:14,720
Speaker 1: I don't do that no more.

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01:53:14,760 --> 01:53:14,920
Speaker 2: Man.

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01:53:15,240 --> 01:53:18,639
Speaker 1: I'm glad you cash on me. Yeah, glad that's your past. Man.

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Speaker 1: That ain't with you all no more. Nah, bro, Nah,

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01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:25,800
Speaker 1: Like you gotta be safe out here, bro, Yeah for sure, Bro,

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01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:30,200
Speaker 1: I appreciate you calling that. Man. This has been great. Yeah,

2273
01:53:30,240 --> 01:53:32,720
Speaker 1: it's cool. I knew Tank an't want to be here. No, No,

2274
01:53:32,960 --> 01:53:35,040
Speaker 1: it's fine. I knew he wasn't gonna be here when

2275
01:53:35,040 --> 01:53:38,479
Speaker 1: I showed up. I was just playing. Yeah, No, I'm

2276
01:53:38,560 --> 01:53:40,439
Speaker 1: just playing. Nah, man, I appreciate you all for having me.

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01:53:40,520 --> 01:53:40,720
Speaker 4: Man.

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01:53:41,360 --> 01:53:43,800
Speaker 1: Tank is filming Reasonable Doubt and nah, that's one of

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01:53:43,800 --> 01:53:46,599
Speaker 1: my favorite shows. Love it. I'm happy. I'm probably gonna

2280
01:53:46,600 --> 01:53:48,240
Speaker 1: stop watching it out of he on it. But damn

2281
01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:51,840
Speaker 1: he got to catch straight.

2282
01:53:54,080 --> 01:53:56,479
Speaker 5: No, it definitely is one of my favorite shows. Bro,

2283
01:53:56,560 --> 01:53:58,880
Speaker 5: It's an amazing show. So congratulations to him for that.

2284
01:53:59,320 --> 01:54:00,880
Speaker 5: I appreciate your fathering man.

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01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:01,920
Speaker 1: My brother, that's hurt.

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01:54:02,840 --> 01:54:05,680
Speaker 3: I'm Jay Valentine. This is the R and B Money Podcast.

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01:54:05,760 --> 01:54:07,200
Speaker 3: We live from Sessions, Atlanta.

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01:54:08,280 --> 01:54:15,520
Speaker 1: Jay Holliday, JA Valentine. What's up. I'm J Holliday, J Valentine.

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Speaker 1: I see how