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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and iHeartRadio Podcast. All Right,

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Speaker 1: so today's guest, we are bringing on Clayton. He was

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Speaker 1: on the Bachelorette, he was a bachelor, and now he's

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Speaker 1: on the Perfect Match. He is quite the villain, but

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Speaker 1: is he really? Who is Clayton?

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Speaker 2: Is?

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Speaker 1: The question? Is Clayton ready for true love? Bom boom boom,

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Speaker 1: Here he comes.

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Speaker 3: Hey, guys, how's it going?

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Speaker 1: Hi? Oh are you good?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great?

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Speaker 1: Good?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Look at that little grin. Clayton's like, what am I

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Speaker 1: up against? Two women on a couch? This ought to

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Speaker 1: be comfortable.

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Speaker 3: This is gonna be one on one thing.

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Speaker 4: I didn't realize I was going to be the the

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Speaker 4: outnumbered one.

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Speaker 1: Don't act like you're not used to dating two girls

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Speaker 1: at once, Clayton.

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Speaker 3: But I bring another twenty eight of you guys, the

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Speaker 3: real quick, very.

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Speaker 1: Good Clayton, Clayton, I'm Jana. This is Krista. Hi Clayton. Yeah, So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I don't want you to feel ganged

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Speaker 1: up on, but we are two scorned women.

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Speaker 3: Essentially, I'm gonna get ganged upfore.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we're about twenty years older than your normal age group,

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Speaker 1: so we have perspective on a lot of things. I

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Speaker 1: think that, yeah, it's probably refreshing, but.

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Speaker 3: No, fair enough. Yeah, I'm all for accountability.

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Speaker 1: Okay, good, I think do we see?

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Speaker 4: I see fifty two minutes on a timer? So you

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Speaker 4: guys were already rolling. So did you already do some

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Speaker 4: pre talk before I came it came in here?

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Speaker 1: No, we did some pre clarification. We did see this.

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Speaker 3: I have to listen to it now. You guys are

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Speaker 3: like the first off, just so you all know the listeners,

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Speaker 3: this guy sucks. He's about to come in the room.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: It did take a minute with your org chart though,

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Speaker 1: because it gets a little confusing with all the women.

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Speaker 1: And then we went back and revisited a couple so

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Speaker 1: I just needed a second to get on it. Gosh,

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Speaker 1: I guess like my first thing is because if I'm honest, right,

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Speaker 1: I hear, I hear obviously all the things and you

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Speaker 1: see the headline, and I'm the first person that you

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Speaker 1: know this is headlines are headlines. They're meant to be

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Speaker 1: not super kind and you know, but I guess for you,

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Speaker 1: what do you think people's perception of you is? And

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Speaker 1: then what is like who is claim because I would

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Speaker 1: love to get to know you as opposed to what

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Speaker 1: I have been told about you. Does that make sense?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? So I mean, yes, it makes complete sense. So

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Speaker 3: who am I? Which? I love that question.

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Speaker 4: I in fact, I like to bring it up myself.

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Speaker 4: It depends on who you ask. So I know that

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Speaker 4: my perception on social media and then my perception on

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Speaker 4: reality television, and then my real life persona are all different.

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Speaker 3: In a way, I.

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Speaker 4: Would say that my social media perception and my real

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Speaker 4: life version me are very close, but the reality television

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Speaker 4: version I feel is different from my real life self.

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Speaker 4: And the reason I say that is because what I

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Speaker 4: believe people think I am is a villain based off

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Speaker 4: of my reality TV experience. I had a hard time

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Speaker 4: on an understanding that they're accepting it for a while,

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Speaker 4: and I blamed production.

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Speaker 3: I've still nowadays, I mean, as of.

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Speaker 4: Recently, I've started to be like, hey, look like it's

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Speaker 4: a shared effort. I do believe that the edit has

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Speaker 4: something to do with it. That being said, I've just

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Speaker 4: come to terms with there's really no nuance that's ever

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Speaker 4: shown on reality television, Like they just don't have time

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Speaker 4: they have to Basically, it's good or bad.

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Speaker 3: So it's either happy or sad.

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Speaker 4: We need to get the audience to see someone as

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Speaker 4: good and the other as bad. And every situation that

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Speaker 4: I've been on TV, I've been the bad guy. Well

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Speaker 4: that makes sense because you really couldn't make the other

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Speaker 4: people because I was the one doing the breaking up.

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Speaker 3: So it makes sense.

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Speaker 4: But there's a lot of deeper discussions that are being

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Speaker 4: cut from the edit that I feel if you sat

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Speaker 4: and listened to it and you'd be like, all right,

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Speaker 4: I understand, like there's reasoning behind all of this. We're

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Speaker 4: getting this like quick cut high emotion, you know, and

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Speaker 4: he looks like he doesn't care, when it's like I

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Speaker 4: do deeply care. I have trouble sometimes expressing my emotions,

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Speaker 4: which I'm working through. I grew up in a household

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Speaker 4: I'm this is all new to me. Emotional intelligence wasn't

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Speaker 4: really a thing that I was taught. We were just

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Speaker 4: taught to go play sports. We didn't talk about our

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Speaker 4: emotions ever. So I've been working really hard in the

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Speaker 4: last few years to show, like to just to improve,

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Speaker 4: to make it easier on my own self. But I

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Speaker 4: realized that, like, I just went on a TV show

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Speaker 4: where I broke up with somebody from my past all

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Speaker 4: over again, and it's like, oh, this guy hasn't changed.

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Speaker 3: That's the only thing that I'm like, No, it's not true.

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Speaker 4: But I understand why you think that, because you're seeing

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Speaker 4: a little sliver of my life.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I think they could have been more favorable

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Speaker 3: on the edit. They just weren't. But that's rare.

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Speaker 1: So then what is the truth of that, because you

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Speaker 1: did technically go back on a show to essentially rebreak

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Speaker 1: up with someone, right, So what is the truth that

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Speaker 1: we then didn't see?

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Speaker 4: Well, I would say this, I don't think it's fair

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Speaker 4: for people to be heavily scrutinizing me based on what

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Speaker 4: I did, because what I feel like I did was

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Speaker 4: I went back to an X that I happened to

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Speaker 4: bump into after a few years. I would equate this

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Speaker 4: to like real life scenario, You're out at a bar

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Speaker 4: in a different state, you bump into an X. You're like,

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Speaker 4: oh my gosh, what are you doing here? It's been

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Speaker 4: a few years. You're like, you sit down, you chat

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Speaker 4: with them, you have some drinks, emotions are running high.

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Speaker 4: You're like you're remembering all the good times, You're talking

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Speaker 4: about all the fun moments, and you're happy to see

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Speaker 4: this individual and everything feels great. Then you decide to

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Speaker 4: morning and the emotions have subsided.

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Speaker 3: Now the excitement's gone.

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Speaker 4: No rationale kicks in and you're like, no, that can't work, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I was really great to see my ex, but that

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Speaker 4: there's a reason why I didn't work in the first place.

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Speaker 3: I feel that's exactly what happened. So I don't I

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Speaker 4: I get frustrated because I see like these pitchforks and

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Speaker 4: people saying I'm a monster and I don't deserve love,

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Speaker 4: and I'm getting death threats and all this stuff, and

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Speaker 4: it's like, guys, I went back to an ex, like

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Speaker 4: who hasn't done that? And I understand that. Then people say, well,

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Speaker 4: you should be more cautious about how you handled her,

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Speaker 4: and it's like I felt like I did say, hey,

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Speaker 4: and I can't promise anything, and I felt like that

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Speaker 4: was me saying like, look, we're here. I believe this

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Speaker 4: is all happening for a reason, and I truly believe that.

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Speaker 3: That's the way that I operate.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, everything that happens to me is not a mistake,

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Speaker 4: Like every single thing I do. That's that's a belief

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Speaker 4: system that I employ. So, you know, people mocking me

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Speaker 4: and saying, oh, he's just saying these things and like, no,

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Speaker 4: I believe them. But if you're not going to believe

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Speaker 4: my words, then you won't believe me. And I think again,

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Speaker 4: people are just looking for a villain in my opinion,

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Speaker 4: project their own emotions onto I'm like, I didn't kill anybody.

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Speaker 4: I didn't do anything super serious. I gave it a

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Speaker 4: shot with an X. We talked. A few years had passed.

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Speaker 4: I thought, hey, we're different people. Maybe we can match now,

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Speaker 4: maybe this makes sense, like maybe it was the right person,

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Speaker 4: wrong timing three years ago.

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Speaker 1: I do get that piece where I mean, I could

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Speaker 1: think of my password, you know, I can also really

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Speaker 1: relate to the villain piece and the editing, like, of

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Speaker 1: course you are the villain in that, because you are

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Speaker 1: the villain in this, and I do know somebody else

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Speaker 1: that is coming out on another reality show that was

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Speaker 1: a villain and I talked to someone that was on

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Speaker 1: I'm curious because I was thinking maybe he was going

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Speaker 1: to have this authentic return, but he left because the

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Speaker 1: producers kept badgering him on this one thing and they

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Speaker 1: made him exactly who they wanted him to be from

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Speaker 1: the last thing. So it's you know, I get that

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Speaker 1: You know, So there's a piece that I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I feel for you, Like that sucks.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was probably naive to like think that, you know,

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Speaker 4: I was gonna be I thought again, I'm like, I

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Speaker 4: know how much work I've done, you know, I still,

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Speaker 4: to this day, I have had to forgive myself because

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Speaker 4: I took a lot of accountability on my shoulders off

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Speaker 4: the Bachelor. I took like all the heat and I

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Speaker 4: how bad it got. I started to think, like, believe

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Speaker 4: what people said about me.

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Speaker 3: I've now doubled back.

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Speaker 4: I have self love and self confidence and I'm like

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Speaker 4: I did not do anything that serious. Like was it bad? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: But like the whole show's purpose was for me to

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Speaker 4: date multiple women. I did, and I fell in love

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Speaker 4: with multiple women. After I fought it for so long,

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Speaker 4: I was like, I'm not off camera. I was like,

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to fall in love multiple women. That'd

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Speaker 4: be a train wreck. I can't do that. But then

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Speaker 4: you're given permission to do it by the women and

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Speaker 4: the producers, and you're like, Okay, I'll open my eyes

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Speaker 4: up to it, but like, hey, there's a chance I

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Speaker 4: can fall in love the multiple people. You get told

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Speaker 4: to basically to explore the relationships fully by all final

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Speaker 4: three women all said that verbatim, and you're like, well,

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Speaker 4: about to go into fancy suitets, what does that mean?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 4: So all these all this permission and then you do it,

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Speaker 4: and it's like you're you're basically thrown out to the

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Speaker 4: wolves and said you're you're, you're, you're terrible.

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Speaker 3: And it's like.

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Speaker 4: I checked in and gate and asked for permission and

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Speaker 4: thought everything was fine, and then ultimately like was villainized,

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Speaker 4: and I just I'm not at a place now where

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Speaker 4: I'm like, you can hold your beliefs, you can think

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Speaker 3: I'll explain nuance if you want to talk about it.

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Speaker 3: And if you still don't like me at the end

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Speaker 3: of it, at least you've heard me out.

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Speaker 1: But how much of that do you actually believe? Because

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Speaker 1: I've said that same thing for many years, but it

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Speaker 1: took me many years to actually not let the comments

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Speaker 1: affect me. And even to this day, there's still a percentage.

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Speaker 1: It's a low percentage, but it's still hurts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yea, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: I would say, like, I was a major people pleaser

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Speaker 4: growing up and I'll live until probably about I don't know,

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Speaker 4: And I don't ever comment back because I'm like Clayton,

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Speaker 1: Okay, well we know that's that that's not true. Yeah

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Speaker 3: But all the time, and that's that's.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, production.

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Speaker 1: Okay. I think it's really important for people to remember

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I like this stuff. I think it's I can.

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Speaker 1: Tell you like it. Yeah, I can tell you like it.

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Speaker 4: Well, it depends at what point in my life you

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Speaker 4: asked me, so I Reacheler. Okay, Well, first off, all,

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Speaker 4: let's go bacherette. Bacherrette, Ok, yeah, uh no, no, no bacherette.

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Speaker 4: I was literally doing it because I thought, hey, this,

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Speaker 1: And like and they bring back your we know.

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Speaker 3: And they bring back my ex.

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Speaker 4: But I said, look, I go, I'm picky, but I'm

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Speaker 4: So here's the thing, Like The reason why I reality

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Speaker 4: I have my day to day. I do real estate,

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Speaker 4: So it's like whenever I get bored with life, whenever

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Speaker 3: We just want you to come on and dance.

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Speaker 4: I was like perfect, And so I was like, I

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Speaker 3: You know, maybe I think that the right thing.

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Speaker 1: You're not selling me. It's not bad like go go

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, like live there's no rush.

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Speaker 4: I mean, mom my mom doesn't want to hear that.

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Speaker 4: So like there were times on Perfect Match where I'm

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's the one thing. It's like, if I'm happy,

436
00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,280
Speaker 4: you'll see me beaming. You know, my cheesing smile. But

437
00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:42,960
Speaker 4: other than that, it's like, I don't have this range

438
00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,480
Speaker 4: of emotions that you'll ever be able to see on

439
00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,440
Speaker 4: my face. That's where I think it can sometimes look

440
00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,480
Speaker 4: like it happened on the Bats or when I did

441
00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,400
Speaker 4: the Rows Ceremony from Hell and broke up with the women.

442
00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,119
Speaker 4: It's like people are like, he's heartless. He's just staring

443
00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,960
Speaker 4: at these women, and it's like I was concerned and

444
00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,720
Speaker 4: I was white listening to them attentively, but my face

445
00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,720
Speaker 4: showed like I was bored, and I was like, oh

446
00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,880
Speaker 4: my gosh, Like and I saw that. I'm like, yeah,

447
00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,480
Speaker 4: I can see what people are saying, but.

448
00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,679
Speaker 1: Also you're a human, Like we go through that here too.

449
00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,119
Speaker 1: People will be like, oh, I could tell that she

450
00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,840
Speaker 1: was salty or she and I'm like, actually, I was

451
00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,359
Speaker 1: just listening. I was just listening. And I love that

452
00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,360
Speaker 1: you're not. You're at a place too where the comments

453
00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,600
Speaker 1: aren't affecting as much, because I mean, seriously, for like

454
00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,280
Speaker 1: five years, I was like, Okay, they say I'm this,

455
00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,080
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna try that. It's exhausting to try to

456
00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,560
Speaker 1: prove yourself to people that don't know what's in the

457
00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,960
Speaker 1: four walls and who you truly are, and you know,

458
00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,760
Speaker 1: and I even hate that I had a preconceived notion

459
00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:34,440
Speaker 1: about you because I think you're great. I think you're

460
00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,000
Speaker 1: just I think you're great. I don't think you're ready. Also, Clayton,

461
00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,479
Speaker 1: I have a question. I mean, you're precious, but I

462
00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:40,879
Speaker 1: still am like, Okay, I.

463
00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,000
Speaker 3: Would love to prove you guys wrong.

464
00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:46,520
Speaker 1: We'll see I do that shows anything.

465
00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,040
Speaker 4: But something that you guys said, you're like, hey, you know,

466
00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,359
Speaker 4: I think that when you settle down, someone will be boring.

467
00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:54,280
Speaker 3: I actually disagree.

468
00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,439
Speaker 4: I think the most fun times that I had I

469
00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:57,520
Speaker 4: could think back to one.

470
00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:58,320
Speaker 1: X Okay it was.

471
00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,439
Speaker 3: It was the stupidest, stupidest stuff.

472
00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,040
Speaker 4: Like I remember like the little jokes that she would make,

473
00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,640
Speaker 4: and I was like, this makes it so much fun.

474
00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,120
Speaker 4: If I was sitting in my house right now, I'd

475
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,119
Speaker 4: be boring as hell. But I think like when you

476
00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,840
Speaker 4: have a really strong connection with somebody, it gets more fun.

477
00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:12,040
Speaker 4: I don't need to jump out of a plane. I

478
00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,120
Speaker 4: don't need to like that kind of adrenaline. In fact,

479
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:15,680
Speaker 4: I don't want to do that that kind of stuff,

480
00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,879
Speaker 4: or like cliff jumping. I mean like I'm like, I

481
00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,000
Speaker 4: don't need that kind of adrenaline rush. I get an

482
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 4: adrenaline rush being with somebody and building a connection. So

483
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,920
Speaker 4: I think, like I just wanted to highlight that. It's

484
00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,919
Speaker 4: like I think, when I'm with the right person, I

485
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,520
Speaker 4: get more. There's no boredom.

486
00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,520
Speaker 1: What's that makes sense? I get a say he tracked

487
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,240
Speaker 1: me in my thirties and my dating and putting a

488
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,400
Speaker 1: camera on it, I'd be mortified, and you would. Your

489
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 1: life would look like cake. I was a train wreck

490
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:41,560
Speaker 1: in my thirties.

491
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,160
Speaker 4: I think most of us are. I mean, that's where again,

492
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:45,800
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm just trying to show people I'm human.

493
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,320
Speaker 4: I don't want you to put me on a pedestal,

494
00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,520
Speaker 4: but I'm tired of people kicking me into a corner.

495
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm no longer letting y all kick me

496
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 4: into a corner. I'm just not But don't put me

497
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:54,360
Speaker 4: on the pedestal either.

498
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 3: Like, I know what I am. I know my weaknesses,

499
00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:57,880
Speaker 3: I know my vices.

500
00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 4: I'm like, I know, but I'm like, but you all

501
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,600
Speaker 4: keep making out to be a monster in reality television.

502
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,400
Speaker 4: I'm not like, I'm I'm nowhere near a monster. I'm

503
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,399
Speaker 4: a good person. I'm not great per se like you

504
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,639
Speaker 4: can find someone who's a bigger saint. Freddie on Perfect

505
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 4: Match is a perfect example that man's a saint.

506
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 1: I love Freddy, yes, as advertised, advertising as advertised.

507
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,679
Speaker 3: So I'm not on Freddy's playing field. I'm not trying.

508
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,359
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess nobody.

509
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 1: You can't all be Freddy's, do you know? Like that's

510
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,359
Speaker 1: what I that's this part of this reality casting. If

511
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 1: it was a bunch of Freddie's, no one would watch

512
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 1: fair enough.

513
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 4: And I think Freddie even knows that. It's like, yeah,

514
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,919
Speaker 4: I mean you want some dramatic individuals like Louis was

515
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 4: a little ringleader, and Louie's personality is so fun.

516
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:40,359
Speaker 3: I actually look up to him.

517
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,879
Speaker 4: He's twenty four years old, but like he's he's authentic

518
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 4: and that's hard to find these days. And so they

519
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 4: pulled the right people all in the room that it's

520
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,640
Speaker 4: like here's the stir, here's the sweetheart, you know, here's

521
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 4: the chaos enabler, like they and it all.

522
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 3: Comes together and the show is doing okay.

523
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 4: I think for that reason, right, because there's enough drama

524
00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 4: to carry it.

525
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 3: Had we all been perfect, no one watched the show

526
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,160
Speaker 3: so and I would.

527
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 1: Never date a Freddy Just so we're clear. So that's

528
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 1: my toxic trait, Like I think he's lovely. You wouldn't either,

529
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,120
Speaker 1: I would either. No, we'd run him over.

530
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 3: Yeah why why? Why would him over?

531
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:18,120
Speaker 1: Because he's he's too sweet, but he's not enough man

532
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 1: to me, Like I need someone when and I said

533
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,160
Speaker 1: to you, I think you need someone that's a little

534
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 1: firm on you and a little bit a very Scottish husband.

535
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 1: I need his firmness for my wildness. And I have

536
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,919
Speaker 1: a red neck husband and he and I needed his

537
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 1: firmness to come in and go. Actually, girls and guys

538
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:36,719
Speaker 1: don't need to be fat and yeah exactly for him

539
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,679
Speaker 1: to be like, no, that's not how it flies. Oh

540
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 1: I okay, Like yeah, yeah, we need that for you,

541
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 1: that's all. And I think you could be ready in

542
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,640
Speaker 1: a fiery Latino watch I'm saying, That's what I'm saying.

543
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's why the last six girls I've talked

544
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 4: to involving La Tina, because I'm like, I'm gravitating towards

545
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 4: that energy because they're just like, who the hell do

546
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,160
Speaker 4: you think you are a white boy, Like you're gonna

547
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 4: talk to me like that? Like you have no idea

548
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 4: and I love that. I'm like, I'm like, yell at

549
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 4: me in Spanish.

550
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 1: I love a good I love a good slide in

551
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 1: a DM too. If there's one like celebrity person, who

552
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 1: whose DM would you slide into? H or have you

553
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 1: slid into? I know I can tell my face he's

554
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 1: working on his resting bench face.

555
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 4: I I actually I don't slide a lot of dms.

556
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 4: Like I'm like, I just don't. I have goals right

557
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 4: now like I do have like six month goals. I'm

558
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 4: going to buy a house and I'm going to buy it,

559
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 4: remodel it and all that. So I'm like, look, all

560
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 4: I'm focused on right now is making money. My dms

561
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 4: are open. If somebody wants to slide. Some Latina hears

562
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,479
Speaker 4: this and it's like, oh, I'm going to go for it.

563
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 4: Go for it, be my guest. It's not that I'm

564
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,360
Speaker 4: not responding, but I'm just I'm not right now. I'm

565
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 4: just like, hey, I got six month goals to get

566
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 4: buy the house, remodel it, buy the nice car, so

567
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 4: I can kind of live the Scottsdale life, you know,

568
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 4: and enjoy that part of my life. And then on

569
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 4: the other side of that, you know, ideally, but I'm like, look,

570
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 4: if somebody walks in my life tomorrow, I'm not gonna

571
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 4: be like, oh sorry, I got six month goals.

572
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 3: You're not a partner.

573
00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 1: Sure, Let's usually when someone does walk around, you have

574
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 1: the plans, right.

575
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:01,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

576
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 1: So have you have you said you're sories to anyone

577
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 1: that might have needed a sorry from the shows?

578
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

579
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, all of them.

580
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: Have they been received? Well?

581
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 3: Yes? Yeah?

582
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 4: I just like we can say just names, we can

583
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 4: say names Rachel, like, I mean, because that was the

584
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 4: most recent one, Like, ultimately, yeah, we're good. We I

585
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 4: talked her on the phone a couple of days ago.

586
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 4: She wasn't she wasn't too happy about something that I

587
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 4: you know, just we're checking in with each other and

588
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 4: like the podcast and the things we're saying, and it's

589
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 4: like but ultimately, again the show didn't show it, but

590
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 4: her and I both apologize to each other.

591
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 3: She apologized to me the next day.

592
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,239
Speaker 4: They didn't show that I apologize to her, you know,

593
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 4: so it was good. It was kosher. It was like,

594
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 4: and I thought they'd show that. I'm like, hey, I

595
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 4: think everybody would love to like see what it would

596
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 4: be like to have two exes be amicable and apologize,

597
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 4: because like, I think everybody kind of wants that in

598
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 4: their own life.

599
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 3: Nobody wants to like hate their X, so I thought

600
00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 3: they might show that.

601
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 4: It's like, hey, like too sure, people saying, here's why

602
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 4: I was upset.

603
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 3: Last night, this is why we did what we did.

604
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 4: You know, they didn't show it, and I was like, Okay,

605
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 4: I guess that wasn't really that important to you all,

606
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 4: but it seemed important to me. But yeah, I've apologized

607
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 4: to everybody that I've hurt, you know. I think the

608
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 4: only issue right now is people expect me to take

609
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 4: full accountability.

610
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 3: And I'm like, it takes two to tango.

611
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 4: I don't need to, Like, I don't know much how

612
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 4: much more you want me to say, Like I'm one

613
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 4: hundred percent at fault for this, and I don't believe

614
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 4: it there's another party involved, like it's equally their fault,

615
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 4: you know, like this this could have never This would

616
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 4: have never happened had that person you know, not allowed

617
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 4: it to. So I'm like, I don't believe that I

618
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 4: should take one hundred percent accountability. That's a fifty to

619
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 4: fifty like it could have in my opinion. So that's

620
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 4: just where I stand on it. But I have people

621
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 4: like he's not taking accountability. I'm like, no, I'm not

622
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 4: taking one hundred percent accountability. Because Rachel made the decision

623
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 4: to match with me, that's on her. That's also on her.

624
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 4: So I'm like, that's at least fifty to fifty. You know,

625
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 4: she could have said no, and I said, you do,

626
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 4: it's best for you. So I'm like, I don't like, again,

627
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 4: why are we throwing all the blame on me? It's

628
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 4: just simple to do. But she also is a part

629
00:25:59,119 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 4: of that conversation.

630
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: Do you do another show if they offer it? Have

631
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: they offered another show? I shouldn't start it there. Okay,

632
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: would you do another show if they offer it? Are

633
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: you he'll get a free trip to one of those

634
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 1: Hawaii places or you know, the Virgin Version cruises.

635
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 3: I'm open.

636
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 4: I would rather not do another dating show. I would

637
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 4: rather do like a game show, something.

638
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: Like something special Forces.

639
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, that seems kind of tough. I don't know. I've

640
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 3: already subjected myself to all two minutes ago.

641
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: You were a tough guy, say consistent.

642
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 3: I can do it. No, I can do it. I

643
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 3: don't have anything to prove though.

644
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 4: I'm like, I've already like proved my toughness to myself

645
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 4: when playing playing football, Like I don't need to try

646
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 4: to prove everybody that I have this masculine energy, Like

647
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 4: I don't like that just seems like a tough show.

648
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 3: I would do it.

649
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 1: That's the clip they're going to use when you do

650
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: do Special Forces. By the way, the last twenty seconds

651
00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: that you just said is going to be what they

652
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: do in boot camp.

653
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, I mean I could.

654
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 4: I think I believe I can survive it, but I would.

655
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 4: I want to do something like Traders that that sounds

656
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 4: more fun to me, like to be able to like

657
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 4: that kind of stuff.

658
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 3: But what I do a dating show? Sure if the

659
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 3: money's right always yeah.

660
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I get it, you know what I mean,

661
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: Like we shoot the things I've said yes too for money? Yeah,

662
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: you know, like, well, let's clarify that that sounds were

663
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: certain ads like you know that I wish I didn't do,

664
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: you know, and then ask stuff movies. I'm like, yeah,

665
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 1: it pays the bells, you know, I get it.

666
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, at the end of the day,

667
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 4: like I'm trying to set myself up in my future.

668
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: Absolutely, what's your dream Clayton? Like, what if you in

669
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: this moment, the thirty two year old Clayton, the scorned

670
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: reality TV non villain rectified? What is your dream job?

671
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 2: Like?

672
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: What is something you've always wanted to do?

673
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 3: Speak on mental health?

674
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 4: I was doing that until I got hit with the

675
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 4: paternity scandal. Not that woman, in my eyes, took it

676
00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 4: away from me, which but it was also my doing.

677
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 4: Like I engaged with her intimately, you know, got me

678
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 4: in a whole lot of trouble and like it unfortunately

679
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 4: knocked out all my speaking engagements. When I talked to

680
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 4: like kids' seventh grade up about sixth grade, probably like

681
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 4: sixth grade up to college, you know, and I talk

682
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 4: about being authentic, and I talk about going through, you know,

683
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 4: the emotional whirlwind of like growing up and not feeling

684
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,959
Speaker 4: good enough and struggling with authenticity and trying to fit in.

685
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,360
Speaker 4: That's when I felt that I was most in my purpose.

686
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: It's wild to me that those would be canceled because

687
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: of that, Yeah, because it seems to me like the

688
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: idea behind mental health and we talk a lot about

689
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: that here. Very vulnerable about that is about being honest

690
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: and about making mistakes and about being human.

691
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 4: So well, what happened was I was starting to speak,

692
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 4: like two years ago. I was starting to like pick

693
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 4: up on engagements, like speak to schools around the country.

694
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 4: Things were heating up, and I had somebody sending out

695
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 4: emails on my behalf. But then I got hit with

696
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 4: the scandal and it was guilty, t'll proven innocent.

697
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: So it was like, but it was just it was

698
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: the scandal was and you can correct me if I'm wrong,

699
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: it was not really a scandal. It was that a

700
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: woman came out and said that you had were the

701
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: father of her twins. Right, yeah, but you were not true?

702
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 3: Right but I but I had to prove that.

703
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: Yeah but what but that just makes you a human

704
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: And this isn't me defending I'm not.

705
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 3: No, what happened was.

706
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 4: What happened was is I schools stopped responding back to

707
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 4: all the emails, fell flat, and then a couple of

708
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 4: them responded. They were like, hey, we googled him, and

709
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 4: like we can't bring him in because if parents they're

710
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 4: going to google him too and be like, why are

711
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 4: we bringing in some guy that's in the middle of

712
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 4: the scandal, right, now.

713
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I understand that school, like I do. I

714
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: just also it's not fair. It's not fair, and it's

715
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: also just you're being human.

716
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 4: Yeah again, like I but if you looked at the

717
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 4: chatter online, I mean, people people had had a heyday

718
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 4: with me. They were like, this is the guy that

719
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 4: we saw in the Batchelor's He's terrible to women, Like

720
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 4: he's not supporting this woman as she has his children.

721
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 4: Like I had to get into a paternity test to

722
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 4: prove to people and then post it on my my

723
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 4: my reel, like I was an amar on Mari the

724
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 4: TV show being like.

725
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 3: I'm not the father. I mean, like I had to

726
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 3: do that. I didn't even want to post that.

727
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 4: I was like, this is embarrassing, but yeah, I had

728
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 4: to post it because everyone believed that I was lying,

729
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 4: and so I was like, great, because of my reality

730
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 4: TV experience, people don't believe me.

731
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 3: They think I'm this person.

732
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 4: So I have to now go out of my way

733
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 4: to prove to the court of public opinion that I'm

734
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 4: actually different than what people who see me as. And

735
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 4: when I prove that I was, you know, I was like,

736
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 4: I'm not the father again, nobody, No apologies. By you know,

737
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 4: by people online. It was like majority of them were like,

738
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 4: well we believe them all along. It's like, no, you

739
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 4: didn't go go read on all the forums. You guys

740
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 4: were tearing me to shreds, Like you all just can't

741
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 4: admit fault yourself. Look, there's a lot of hurt people

742
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 4: out in the world, and like especially a lot of

743
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 4: hurt people watch reality television. I think they watch it

744
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 4: because they want to see, you know, attractive people screw up.

745
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 4: So it's like they and they can you know, blame

746
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 4: like see they suck. And it's like just there's a

747
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 4: lot of negative people. Like reality television brings a lot

748
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 4: of really negative audience. It's some of the most hateful

749
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 4: people that I've found are reality TV viewers.

750
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 3: So it's it is what it is.

751
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 4: You just realize, you're like, these people are upset, they're

752
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 4: angry at the world, and they want to take it

753
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 4: out on the person on their TV screen that they

754
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 4: literally don't know.

755
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: I think it's beautiful though, that you like, where you

756
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: feel the most authentic and happy is is in the

757
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: mental health space and talking to kids because I think

758
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: and I would love for you to you know, can

759
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: obviously continue that because that is that seems so authentic

760
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: to you know, to you and your purpose and why

761
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: you have this platform, you know, and I if I was,

762
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: you know, a kid, and even because honestly, if I'm

763
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: listening to you right now, I'm like, I would have

764
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: never thought that you would struggle with mental health. Like

765
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: you're a good looking dude and you've got you know,

766
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: you sounds like you've a great family. Like I would

767
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: never think that anything was wrong. You know that you

768
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: that you struggle with that, but that's just you know,

769
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: never judge by the cover.

770
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 3: Well that's the thing.

771
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 4: I mean, like I've posted my social media, but people

772
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 4: don't realize like I was not the superstar athlete growing

773
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 4: up I was. I didn't play varsities in my senior year.

774
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 4: My brother started varsity two years younger than me before

775
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 4: I even did. I had no scholarship offers. I was bullied.

776
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 4: I was extremely tiny. I was like in seventh grade,

777
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 4: I was five six, one hundred and five pounds. Like,

778
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 4: I mean, I was a small kid. I was bullied.

779
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 4: So when people like when I show up, I can

780
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 4: see it in these kids' face, and you know it's

781
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 4: like I show up and I have my little power point,

782
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 4: you know, and I post I show a photo of

783
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 4: me in seventh grade, and these kids their minds are blown.

784
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 3: They're like, that's not you. There's no way.

785
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 4: It's this little, you know, short little kid with bleach

786
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 4: blonde hair, you know, and he and he's and it's

787
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,479
Speaker 4: like you can tell it. And stills hope in these

788
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 4: kids because they see this big old football guy, six five,

789
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 4: big dude, and they're like, well, if he can change

790
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 4: his life that much, so can I.

791
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 3: And it gives them hope.

792
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 4: I feel like my story, I'm like, I look, I

793
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,479
Speaker 4: resonate with these children, and that's why I'm like, you know,

794
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 4: I'm like, I want to get back into it. Unfortunately, though,

795
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 4: there's roadblocks I face, you know, Schools are like, oh, well,

796
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 4: you're not an expert, you shouldn't be talking about mental health.

797
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,239
Speaker 4: I'm like, that's ridiculous. Like bringing up expert in with me, then, like,

798
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 4: let me talk alongside them. I'm just sharing my experience.

799
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 4: But you know, it's it's it's definitely where I'm most passionate.

800
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 4: And and I think again, people look at me and

801
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 4: they say, this is the guy that's always had it,

802
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 4: This is the guy that's you know, that's always been

803
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 4: the stud athlete that's gotten all the women. I was

804
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 4: friend zone growing up. I was called big Brother. That

805
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 4: was my nickname by all the girls. I don't have game.

806
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 4: You could probably see it on the TV screen, Like

807
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 4: I'm not. I'm not smister smooth talker. And I know

808
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 4: that I'm just kind of a goof. And but like

809
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 4: people look at me like, oh, he's had all these things.

810
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 4: I'm like, no, I worked for them all, like, and

811
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 4: I have physical proof. I can show you old photos

812
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 4: of me. I can show you text messages. People girls

813
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 4: call me big brother, like you all want to believe

814
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 4: that I was given everything.

815
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 3: I wasn't. I worked for everything in my life.

816
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 4: That's why I'm also so adamant about like standing my

817
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 4: ground now and sticking it back to those people where

818
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 4: they're like, I'm like, no, I'm not gonna take credit

819
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 4: for this. I'm gonna I'm gonna be like, I'm gonna

820
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 4: be fully authentic and this is gonna be really like

821
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 4: you're gonna this, You're gonna hate this. You want me

822
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 4: to roll over, I'm gonna throw it in your face

823
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 4: now and be like this is not my problem.

824
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 3: It's your problem. And this is the reason, this is

825
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 3: the reason why you.

826
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: Don't even need to say that now you know.

827
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 2: It.

828
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 3: You just live life. Yeah, you just live life. And

829
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 3: that's what I'm doing. I'm like, you all want to

830
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 3: see me lose.

831
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 4: I'm winning. I'm winning big time. Like, if you wanted

832
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 4: to see me fail, you your best chance was three

833
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 4: years ago. You guys almost got me to quit. You

834
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,720
Speaker 4: guys almost got me to throw in the white flag

835
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 4: and and log off forever, you know, and basically move

836
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 4: off with my life and just be away from reality television.

837
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 3: They almost did.

838
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 4: I'm like, if you missed your opportunity, you guys just

839
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 4: created a monster, and a good one in my eyes.

840
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 4: And I'm like, you'll never watch me fail. I continue

841
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 4: to win even in light of this whole like reality

842
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 4: TV stuff.

843
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 3: Right now, I'm amped. Right now, I'm feel the edge.

844
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: Your friends again, It's like, look like.

845
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 4: People, that's what this has been a great experience right

846
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 4: now because online right now go on my dms or

847
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 4: my comments or seeing everyone rip me to shreds.

848
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 3: I've literally not won more in my life than I'm

849
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 3: winning right now. In work. I am making I'm killing it.

850
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 4: Right now with my work, and I'm just like I'm

851
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 4: looking at it and I'm like, I wait up. I'm like,

852
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 4: I have all this bullshit online, but I'm winning in

853
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 4: life more than I ever have. I'm like, I'm like,

854
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 4: I don't care. You want to make me the villain,

855
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 4: Make me the villain? Next show that cast me, cast

856
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 4: me as the villain, Like I will lean into it.

857
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 4: I don't care because the people that know me will

858
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 4: will know that I'm not that, and they'll be like, all,

859
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 4: Clayton's going back on TV to, you know, just to

860
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 4: chase some chaos and play a role, and like that's it.

861
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 4: So I'm like, look, y'all can think like you want

862
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 4: to see me lose. I'm going to let y'all know

863
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 4: how much I'm winning now.

864
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: I'm a really well yeah, there you go, Clayton play

865
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: and there we go, and let's just not let's just

866
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 1: not any more dates with Rachel. You want a hand

867
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: in on three with that closure on that? Okay, just

868
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: a couple of things. We would love you know from you,

869
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: no more, Rachel. We love you living in your purpose,

870
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: We want you talking to children. We love you being honest.

871
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: Don't let the noise, get you and I'm excited for you.

872
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: Team Clayton. Here we go. You've just yeah, I'm rooting

873
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: for you, truly.

874
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 3: You guys, thank you.

875
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: If you ever need some big sisters, we're here for you.

876
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: You can slide in and friendly you know, three years ago,

877
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: way back in the day for me. But you're mega

878
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: villain now and we love you now. So that's exciting.

879
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll take it. Yeah, yeah, that's right.

880
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: You can't be mean to them like I don't know.

881
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 1: I have a high allergy against your gender, so it's

882
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: still easy for me. But I want a high allergy

883
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: against tight ends. You know, you change my mind a

884
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: different Clayton. You are your joy, So keep doing your

885
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: thing and I'll be praying that the speaking and stuff

886
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: comes around for me. Truly are proud of you, Clayton,

887
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: but we do need you to stay away from Rachel.

888
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: Love me so much.

889
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 3: Thank you.

890
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: Guys are all right bye? So yeah, oh I love them, Clayton.

891
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: It's it is hard when you get to see the people.

892
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 1: I'm actually glad that stuff before we talked wasn't in.

893
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 1: I could let viewers in, our listeners in them. I mean,

894
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: you have a perception of what somebody is. Yeah, and

895
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,959
Speaker 1: then you talk to them and you're like, darn it, yeah,

896
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: we'll see it just as people have perceptions of me.

897
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: And then when you get to yeah, even my husband,

898
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,479
Speaker 1: you know, he's been in this business twenty five years, right, Yeah,

899
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 1: and we go through this a lot, because twenty five

900
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: years ago it was party town. He's like, I'm not

901
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: a partier. Yeah, like I'm a dad now and a husband. Well,

902
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: something even happened on set very similar to this, but

903
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: one of the past. The very last day of shooting.

904
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: She was like, I'm going to be honest. She's like,

905
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: not that I've ever heard anything bad. She goes, but

906
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: I followed you for years, but not in the positive way.

907
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: Oh wow. Yeah, And I'm just so really honest of her.

908
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

909
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: And she goes and she's like I even read lit

910
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,919
Speaker 1: the things and the forums and stuff. She goes, you

911
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: are anything, but she's like you are. She just had this.

912
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: I like started crying and gave her a hug. And

913
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: she's in a position where I she's you know, the

914
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: pa where it could be most times. You see. She's like,

915
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: I've had so many actors and actress that I love

916
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: that I don't like anymore because they write rude and

917
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: they're not nice and they're like and she's like, I mean,

918
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: I was like, thank you, Well, that's true. Though I've

919
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: told you you're not very artisty. Yeah, I mean I've

920
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: always said that about you. But that's how we became friends.

921
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: It was nice because again she sees, she thinks and

922
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: sees and sees all the things, and then when you

923
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 1: actually meet the person sometimes their opinions can be changed.

924
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: Reality TV is so tricky too. Anyways, I enjoyed him

925
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: and I root for him and too now that I

926
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: know he likes Latina's like Rachel is not. She's like

927
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: the farst so beautiful, but like not she's blonde, and

928
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: he just needs someone that will that can keep him

929
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: in line a little. And I don't mean that in

930
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: a way that's like derogatory. I don't want that to

931
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: get twisted. I just I felt that even for myself.

932
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: When I met Preston, I was like, oh, there's some

933
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: things that I've always done that I will no longer

934
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: get away with. Yeah, and that is refreshing and it

935
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,439
Speaker 1: feels teammate like, and it makes you be a better

936
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: person and a better partner. Amen to that. Stay tuned

937
00:38:54,640 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: for our next guest. I don't know who