1 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: Thinking Sideways. I don't know stories of things. We simply 2 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: don't know the answer to flow there. Welcome to Thinking Sideways, 3 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: the hard hitting podcast. It finds out stuff that nobody 4 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: else can figure out. I'm Joe joined by Sorry, we 5 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: went the opposite way. We gotta mix it up sometimes. Yeah, 6 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: we don't want people to think there's some particular order. 7 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: I also realized that I literally cannot do the intros 8 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: every single episode we have from the last month and 9 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: a half. I'm just like Devin, I don't know what 10 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: we're doing anymore. Who are we talking on? What's the 11 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: name of our podcast? I don't know. This week we're 12 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: solving get another mystery. And this is a fairly well 13 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: known well but not as well known as some of 14 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: the really well known. I didn't know about it. You 15 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: didn't know about Did you know about it? Yeah? I 16 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: had no idea how I found out about it or 17 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: tell you the shoot, Yeah, I don't remember. But anyway, 18 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: so somehow we got onet of this and it's kind 19 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: of mysterious, and so we thought we'd solve it just 20 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: so you know, all the next can can like move 21 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: on with your lives. So yeah, and so yes that 22 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: that doesn't fortunately involve somebody has done somebody dying. A 23 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: lot of our mysteries seemed to involve people dying. Have 24 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: you noticed that? Yeah? I have, Yeah, which is why 25 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 1: I'm going to non death stories. Yeah, that's right, You're 26 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: going to the positive uplifting you know. So that's that, 27 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: you know, we go with that. I'm gonna stick with death. 28 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: So this is a this is a case that's called 29 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: yug cy fall and let me spell that at y 30 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: O g apostrophe t z E see exactly. It kind 31 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: of reminds you of that. So anyway, this happened back 32 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: in in Germany. Uh, there's a guy named Stole who 33 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: had a case of paranoia, a big old case of paranoia. Yeah, 34 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: kind of. So prior to his death, he would speak 35 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: to his wife about them and he talked about them 36 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: meaning people who intended to kill him. That. Yeah, that 37 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: then he never said he was exactly they were, but yeah, 38 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: they were apparently people out to get him. And what okay, 39 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: and what was his profession again, he worked in the 40 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: food industry. He was like a food technician or some 41 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: sort of technic at the time and now he was 42 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: unemployed at the time. Yeah, probably you know, and actually, seriously, 43 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: if there are people out to get you, do you 44 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: want to be working in any sort of factory where 45 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: they could shove you into the machinery? Yeah, I know, seriously, Yeah, 46 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: better to get a job at seven eleven like the 47 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: night the graveyard shift a lot safer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 48 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: So anyway, and I'm not sure nobody's ever actually interviewed 49 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: his wife to find out how exactly hard was to 50 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: live with this guy. You know, he's always raving on 51 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: about them, but maybe they really were people out to 52 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: get him, because actually, in the end he did die, 53 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 1: so kind of mysteriously, yeah, kind of a little bit mysteriously. Yeah. 54 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: October four, around eleven p m. He was at home 55 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: with his wife and he mentioned them again and then 56 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: suddenly shouts escape mir leiff so of course, which means 57 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: now I've got it in German, of course. So and 58 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: then he writes down six letters on a piece of 59 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: paper and the letters are again y O, G apostrophe 60 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: t Z and also said it's noted that the the 61 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: third letter, the G, could also be a six, so 62 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: there's a little bit of ambiguity. So he's got a 63 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: little bit of sloppy handwriting. Yeah, so they think that 64 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: the connection could be the horizontal bar on the G 65 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: could have been meant to connect to to make a 66 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: six instead of just floating there. Okay, Yeah, it was 67 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: a little weird when I read that. At first. I 68 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: was just trying to make sure people make their gs 69 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: kind of the same way they make their they just 70 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: like do a little down things, because I'm guessing he 71 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: wrote to solving capitals, because that's the only way the 72 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: G would become six is if it was a capital. 73 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: But you know, somebody makes a G a six like this, 74 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: or they make a G like that. I know that 75 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: our listeners. It is drawing is you start at the top, 76 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: you draw to the left and down in an arc, 77 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: and then you come up to the mid, which is 78 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: the only way I've ever seen kind of a J shape. 79 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: And then you're saying they go to the left, a 80 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: little back to the right and then down people those 81 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: kind of cheese or like a six. Yeah, it could be. Yeah, 82 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: so anyway, you know it's probably a license plate number. 83 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: It does kind of look like that. Yeah, Yeah, it's 84 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: so it's it's nobody knows what it means. Apparently, right 85 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: after he wrote them, down, he crossed them out, so 86 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,119 Speaker 1: he didn't have it, or he did, but he wanted 87 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: to make sure that nobody else could have it so 88 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: they wouldn't know. Yeah, yeah, I'm not sure. He might 89 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: have been working on some sort of word puzzle to 90 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: don't know, so yabously, I don't know. So nobody's ever 91 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: been able to decipher the meaning of these particular words. 92 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: So anyway, right after that, he left the house and 93 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: want to a pub in Villensdorf. Apparently it was his 94 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: favorite drinking hole, and he ordered a beer and then 95 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 1: he fell off his bar stool backwards and and hit 96 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: his head. According to witnesses there, he lost consciousness briefly, 97 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: and they also said that he wasn't drunk. Well, it 98 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: was apparently his first beer the night that Apparently he 99 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: didn't get to drink because he left right after that too, 100 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: and and he was he was unconscious for a couple 101 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: of moments. Yeah, yeah, he lost consciousness apparently, and then 102 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: they let him get in his car and drive away. Yeah. Wait, well, 103 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to I'm just trying to place this 104 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: in my head. And I've seen people fall off chairs 105 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: or fall off stools before and I'm trying to think, well, 106 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: did he did he just pitch backwards and fall flat 107 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: to the floor, or did he hit a table or 108 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: a chair on his way down? We don't know that. 109 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: I'm guessing the accounts are sketchy. Yeah, I mean he 110 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: could have he could have fallen back. It was a 111 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: bar full of people drinking. Yeah, I mean, you could 112 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: have fallen straight over backwards or sort of to the 113 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: sides and smacked his face and against the table or 114 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: god knows what. But well, I was just thinking that 115 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: falling flat, you're not going to hit your head as 116 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: hard as if you hit a table or chair on 117 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: the way down. If you think about, your body takes 118 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: the inertia and then your head bounces off the ground 119 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: if you fall flat. But if you fall and hit 120 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: something on the way down, all that inertia is at 121 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: that contact point that's going to hurt. Unless the reason 122 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,559 Speaker 1: he felt was that he became unconscious. Oh I hadn't 123 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: consciousness prior and fell backwards because his body just went limp. Okay, No, 124 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: that's that's a that's a great idea. Because I was 125 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: just presuming that he was stone cold, sober and sitting 126 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: up and for some reason lost his balance. But if 127 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: he's oh, wow, no that I hadn't these guys, I'm 128 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: suddenly interested in his story time. Okay, well follow us 129 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: on follow us on Facebook. Just kidding. Uh, all right, 130 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: so let's continue with the story here. So after he 131 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: after he recovered his sense as he woke up, he 132 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: left the pub apparently didn't drink his beer, uh, and 133 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: drove away in his Volkswagen. And he showed up a 134 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: few hours later in his childhood neighborhood, which is called 135 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: Scott Higer's higer Zelbach. I think, um, do we know 136 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: like where that was in relation to this bar that 137 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: he was at, like if it was hours away or 138 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: if he just disappeared for hours And it was about 139 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes, so he was gone for he's gone for 140 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: a couple of missing for a couple of hours. Ye, Well, 141 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: maybe he went to other bars and fell off his bar. 142 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and it might have been too. I mean, 143 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,679 Speaker 1: so he shows up in this at this woman's house 144 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: in his childhood neighborhood, as I said of the unpronounceable name, 145 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: and uh, he went to this house as this woman 146 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: that he'd known from his childhood was by this time 147 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: was a fairly elderly person. But you don't know. I mean, 148 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:02,679 Speaker 1: she might have been the only one that came forward. 149 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: Maybe you spent that whole two hours knocking on doors 150 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: in other houses in the neighborhood. Well it's a it's 151 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: a weird unaccounted time. Yeah, a couple of hours that 152 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: he disappears, and if he just clocked his head, we 153 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: know he could have just been driving around lost. And 154 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: I'm sorry I should have asked this question earlier, to 155 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: do we know how old he was? You know, I 156 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: found a record of exactly how old he was. I 157 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: had the impression that he was like in his mid thirties. Okay, yeah, 158 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 1: I was just you know, again, like a seventy year 159 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: old guy passes out versus like a middle aged dude 160 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: passes out. It's just a difference in my brain. Sorry, sorry, 161 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: I ask all those questions. Yeah, so, anyway, we don't 162 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: know what happened, what he was doing. He might have 163 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: gone to other pubs and hung out. I mean, maybe 164 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: you want to saw a movie, but he goes to 165 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: see this woman. He shows up at one am at 166 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: this this old lady's doorstep. He'd known her since he 167 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: was a kid, and uh, I wanted to talk to her, 168 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: but she wouldn't let him in because of the late hour, 169 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: and so she basically convinced him to go home to 170 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: his wife. She probably thought he was drunk at one 171 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: o'clock and randomly show up. It is a little random, 172 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: and since it's gonna it's gonna make you feel a little, 173 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 1: you know, a little weird, a little a little weird creepy. Yeah, 174 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: before he left, he said that he told her that 175 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: a horrible incident was going to have was going to 176 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: take place sometime soon. I didn't say what I know. 177 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: A couple of hours go by, a couple more missing hours. 178 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: We don't know where the hell he was. He shows 179 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: up this time, he's about a hundred kilometers from his 180 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: last location. Um. Two truck drivers were driving down the Autobon. 181 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: They discover a Volkswagen Golf crashed in the ditch next 182 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: to the Autobahn, and both of them testified to having 183 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: seen a person in a lightly colored jacket walking near 184 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: the car, independently of each other, right on their own. 185 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: They weren't questioned together. Um this I don't know all 186 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: I heard it say that, they testified, Oh, I thought 187 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: I read the it was independent accounts. Both of them said, yeah, no, 188 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: I saw somebody in a light colored jacket, and the 189 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: other person said, oh, yeah, I know I saw somebody, 190 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: any person a colored jacket. Okay, A coherent sentence, Yeah, 191 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: that cohering. Now, yeah, you might be right. I don't 192 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: I don't remember that. But you know, when we're researching 193 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: these things, we went up reading a whole lot of stuff, 194 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: and sometimes yeah, I thought it was independently of each other, 195 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: which is, of course Len's more credence. Yeah, it definitely does. Yeah. 196 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: So anyways, I see this person in a in a 197 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: lightly colored jacket. They run to the nearest they had, 198 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: you know, those emergency phones by the highway, Yeah, in 199 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: the ages where I was born. Yeah, obviously not too necessary. 200 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: Now that they run to that, they call law enforcement, 201 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: and then they go to the car and there they 202 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: find gunther Stole naked in the passenger's seat of his car. Yeah, 203 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: he was barely conscious. He said that there have been 204 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: four guys and with him in the car, and those 205 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: guys had quote beat him loose unquote. I'm not sure 206 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: what that means. I believe that probably means they beat 207 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: the holy out of it. Yeah, sounds like that's that's 208 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: the only way I can interpret that phrase. Yeah, yeah, 209 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: and so another but I read the accounts to that 210 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: say that he didn't say that. He just said that 211 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: there were four guys and then they had all taken off. 212 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: You know, there's two there's two versions of that. So 213 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: beat him looses and shook him loose and left him behind, Yeah, 214 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: they just take that could be another interpretation of beat 215 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: him looses, you know, they shook him loose and ran 216 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 1: away without him, could be okay, yeah, I mean, I'm 217 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: just trying to trying to understand what this phrase could mean. 218 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: I guess it could also just be like weird translation, right, 219 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: English is kind of a weird and that that was 220 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: my I just got to say this. I know this 221 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: is a little late in the episode to say this, 222 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: but that was probably the hardest part about reading this 223 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: or researching this, is that the majority articles are in German, 224 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: and so when you're reading them translated, they don't come 225 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: true exceptionally well every time. So it makes it you 226 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: question what you're reading, not for the validity of it, 227 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: but for the correct word usage in it. Well, it's 228 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 1: just hard. I mean, you know, English is kind of 229 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: complicated language some of us know. So you know, people 230 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: who are not native speakers or translation software often use 231 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: words in a kind of weird way that we wouldn't recognize. 232 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: For yeah, yeah, really, every yeah, every language has a 233 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: lot of euphemisms, and we use them all the time 234 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: without even realizing that literally what we're saying doesn't make sense. 235 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: Literally literally all the time. I mean, like, beat the bush, 236 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: you know, I'm going to beat the bush looking for 237 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: my cat. You know, it's like, what the hell does 238 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: that mean? What is the bush to your cat? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, 239 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: so beat them loose could mean There's a number of 240 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: ways that could go just from this the way it's written, 241 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: let alone what it could have aten. Yeah. Yeah, And 242 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: of course you know again this is like you know, 243 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: been all over the internet, has been told, we told 244 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: cut and pasted and distorted, and so who knows. But 245 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: there were four guys. The drivers asked into if those 246 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: men were her what his friends, and he said no, 247 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: And the ambulance showed up carted him away, but he 248 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: died in the ambulance on the way to the hospital. Yeah, 249 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: so he was pretty severely injured. Oh yeah, he was. 250 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: And it turns out, guess how he got injured. He 251 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: got they got run over by a car. He was 252 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: run over by car. He wasn't in a car accident. 253 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: He was run over by a car. Yeah, he was 254 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: run over by a car. So the police, uh, they 255 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: investigated in the forensic examination of his body showed that 256 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: he had been run over by a car or a 257 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: truck or something. But he'd been actually run over or 258 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 1: hit by a car, and he was injured. They concluded 259 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: he had been injured before the crash. They hypothesized, because 260 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: I don't know exactly how they could have known this 261 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: for a certainty, but the hypothesized that he must have 262 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: been run down elsewhere and then put back in his 263 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: car in the past in your seat, and then somebody 264 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: drove him to that location. I guess you could you 265 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: could know by the what his injuries were. I mean, 266 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: you know, there are injuries you get by being in 267 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: the passenger seat of a car when it is in 268 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 1: a crash. Things you're gonna happen, yeah, versus like getting 269 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: hit by a car. There are other injuries, and then 270 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: you know the you know other things like if you 271 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: can you can tell if somebody's got a broken bone, 272 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: and they've been moved since that. You know, if that 273 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: bone broke that way and that's fine, or that broke 274 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: that way, and then they've moved that verson a bunch 275 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: of times in the way that blood settle things like that. 276 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: There's lots of things, So you know, I believe them 277 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: that they you know, that he got hit and was 278 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: then put in and then put in the car. He 279 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: got hit over and then put in the car. That's weird. 280 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: And then the car was crashed in a ditch, right, yeah, 281 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: the car was crashed in the ditch. So yeah, that's 282 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: that's kind of mysterious. And then there was a part 283 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: that I mentioned he was naked when they found him. 284 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, this this is the odd bit. Yeah, okay, 285 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: so he was naked. They concluded that he was naked 286 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: when he got run over by the car, so he 287 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: wasn't strip naked afterwards for like evidence reasons. Yeah, he 288 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: was naked before. He was enjoying the night. Yeah, he 289 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: was going on a little froll like and it was 290 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: it was October, yeah, October right now, okay, yeah, so well, 291 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: you know it's it's kind of weird, but maybe he 292 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: liked driving around naked. Who knows there are folks to 293 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: do that. Yes, that's probably true. Yeah. So as far 294 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: as the police investigation went, they they didn't really turn 295 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: up much else. So they managed to find some drivers 296 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: who have been going down that particular stretch of the 297 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: Audubon around that time of night, and a few of 298 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: them apparently reported seeing a hitchhiker pretty close to that 299 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: spot where he was found or after. They don't know, Yeah, 300 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, it could have been after, it 301 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: could have been before. Yeah, but they saw hitchhiker hanging 302 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: out down there. But the hitchhiker and the guy in 303 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: the light jacket were never identified, and so it's one 304 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: of them cold cases, which you know, the world is 305 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: called upon team sideways to solve Team sideways. Yeah, so 306 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: you guys have any theories. Oh man, there's so many 307 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: weird things in this. We'll go go ahead and run. 308 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: I have a couple of possible thoughts on this, but 309 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: let's let's hear what you I mean. It kind of 310 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: feels like he was suffering a psychotic break of some kind, right, 311 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: you know, could it was kind of an extended psychotic break, 312 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: but perhaps he lost consciousness and suffered a concussion when 313 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: he you know, fell over backwards. He was already in 314 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: a paranoid kind of state. He drove around. He's got 315 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: these lost hours. But you know, it's totally possible that 316 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess in my world in like 317 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: TV land, right, the way that this went down is 318 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: he was suffering this psychotic break. He went to see 319 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: his old friend. He said, something horrible is going to happen. 320 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: He started to drive home, pulled over and was like, no, 321 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: I can't drive home. For whatever reason, Strip Naked was 322 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: walking down the highway, maybe got hit by a drunk 323 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: driver or you know, a group of kids or whatever. 324 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: So they were like, oh crap, we gotta get him someplace. 325 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: They load him into his car, start driving him, but 326 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: they're drunk, so they run off the road again and 327 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 1: then bail because why would you stick around for that, 328 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: you know, But there are just so many different you know. 329 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: On the other hand, like maybe the men in black 330 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:38,479 Speaker 1: came to assassinate him or whatever Germany's equivalent of that is. 331 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: You know, he did a little prominence that something awful 332 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 1: was going to happen, but I don't know if it 333 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: was to him or else. Wise, that's also kind of 334 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: a self fulfilling prophecy. Oh absolutely it is. Yeah. Yeah, 335 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: you say something something bad gonna happen, you start making 336 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: bad decisions. Yeah, like walking naked down the Audubon. Yeah, yeah, 337 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: that's an interesting choice to make. Yeah, he uh. And 338 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: by the way, if you're gonna if you get a 339 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: murder a guy and fake a fake sort of a 340 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: car accident and stripping him naked and put him in 341 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: the past in your seat, doesn't strike me as a 342 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: very effective way to do it. So no, but if 343 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: you like had your DNA all over his clothes, I mean, 344 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: but the thing that, I don't know how they determined 345 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: that he was naked when he got hit. They probably 346 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: skid marks on his skin. I don't know, marks car 347 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: tires make pretty definitive marks on on the human body. 348 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a lot of weight to rule. Although 349 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: I guess it just seems like that's the sort of 350 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: thing that can happen through clothes just as easily as 351 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: it can on skin. Oh yeah, you know, so I 352 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: don't know how they could determine that it was, you know, 353 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,239 Speaker 1: naked versus not. But fine, But like, why do you 354 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: how do you convince a man to strict do you say, Oh, 355 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: if you're a hot chick, it's pretty easy. So here's 356 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: here's my question. I know we're in any of the reading. 357 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: Did I come across anything that said if they checked 358 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: his blood alcohol? Did you? Did either of you see 359 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: about that? Okay? So the way I'm looking at this, 360 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: he fell off his bar stool and he clocked his 361 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: noggin somehow, so he's in an altered state, and he 362 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: disappears for a couple of hours, and then he shows 363 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: up to this lady's house, and he disappears for a 364 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: couple of hours later till they find him. I have 365 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: known people who have banged their head and then decided 366 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: in an altered state that they need to go get 367 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: a drink, and then of course they do some weird 368 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: stuff because they're not in irrational frame of mind. So 369 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,959 Speaker 1: I could just see this guy kind of loopy go 370 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 1: into a different place than getting another beer and getting 371 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: pretty toasted and then going to see this lady. She 372 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: doesn't say if he seemed to intoxicated or not from 373 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: the account, no mention of this. Okay, So let's just 374 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: say that he was a little buzzed. He sees her. Okay, 375 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: I gotta get out of here. Where should I go? Oh, well, 376 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: I'll go to this place down the street. And he 377 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 1: gets another couple of beers. He meets a couple of guys. 378 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 1: They're all having a good time. Closing time comes around, 379 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 1: they've got to go, and he's like, I've got a car, 380 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: don't worry about it. And they're goofing around, and let's 381 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: say that. He's like, oh, you don't be hilarious. Is 382 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: if I did this? And I'm just gonna shut my 383 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: clothes off, And then, you know, gets hit by a car. 384 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: And then we fall back into line with what Devil 385 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: was saying, is that he gets hit by the car. 386 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 1: They're like, oh, uh, crap, we gotta get this guy 387 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: at the hospital. Put him in the car. Guy who's 388 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 1: driving a little loaded rex the car and they all go, um, 389 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: not being here, not it, I'm out of here, you 390 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: tell uh. And the guy who's in the light jacket 391 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: one around. He's the last one left, the guilty party 392 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: who has to explain what's happening, and then he chickens 393 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: out and beats feet. I guess you know the other 394 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: thing I could see happening, which I think I read 395 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: a theory of in the reading somewhere is that stroll 396 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: Stole crashes his car and in this alterative mind is like, wow, 397 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: I gotta take all my clothes off for whatever reason, 398 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: wanders out to Audubon, gets hit by, checking himself for 399 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: injuries or something you know, says okay, and it's like 400 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: going out there for help, right, you know, tries to 401 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 1: flag a car down. He's drunk or concussed or whatever, 402 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 1: you know, gets hit by car. It's cold. He says, hey, 403 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: take me back to my car, and they're like, okay, 404 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: we'll give you back your car and we'll go call somebody. 405 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: That the light color jacket guy takes him back to 406 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: his car. The only problem I have with that is 407 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: they don't mention if they found his clothes or not 408 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 1: would have been around there. Again, they not to sue 409 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: the original police filey times I said that, Yeah, the 410 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: theory is that the hitchhiker and the mystery guy in 411 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: the light color jacket are the same person. That's actually 412 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: my theory. So maybe he was after hitchhacking and he 413 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: sees good there comes speeding down the auto bon and 414 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: then wreck his car, dumping into the ditch and he 415 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 1: goes over there to help out, and before he actually 416 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: gets to the car, stole access the car, either naked 417 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: or clothes and any strips, runs to the auto bon 418 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 1: to get help to fly get to fly down a 419 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: car and gets run over. The hitchhacker at this point 420 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: goes over to Stall and says, Oh my god, what 421 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: can I do to help you? And Stall, who's laying 422 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: on the freezing cold ground because it's late October and 423 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: he's naked, says, could you please like put me in 424 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: my car so I'm not freezing, so I'm not sticking 425 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: to the ground. I mean, I guess the other thing, 426 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: right is that Like so at this point, I know 427 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: in Chicago or in Illinois they still have the like 428 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: emergency phones, and I think in seven Oregon they still 429 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: do a lot more world places they do, they're everyone 430 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: like five miles or something like that. Right, So, like 431 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: if he were right in the middle, this dude in 432 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 1: the lightholor jacket could have been, you know, going back 433 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: to the one that was more south and the truck 434 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,719 Speaker 1: drivers went to the north one, and he just was like, 435 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: all right, well there's there's truck drivers over there. There'll 436 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: they'll take care of it. I might be implicated for 437 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: whatever reason. I might have a criminal history. Maybe didn't 438 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: want to have a conversation with the police, ye to leave, 439 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: you know, So I guess I can see that he 440 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: stole his clothes at the same time. Maybe he was 441 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 1: you know, like colored jacket was. I guess it's also possible. 442 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 1: The other thing I was thinking is that it is 443 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: the eighties and this woman was an older woman that 444 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: he went to visit, right, Maybe she was ashamed to 445 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: mention that he was coming on to her. Maybe he was. 446 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: Maybe he was naked when he showed him at her house. 447 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe you would think that. But okay, So 448 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: if she's an older lady, right, and it's the eighties, 449 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 1: so she would have been, you know, growing up in 450 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: like another and if she had known him growing up, 451 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: she wouldn't necessarily want to harm his reputation. She could 452 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: have said that him. You know, I didn't let him 453 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: in the house. Why didn't you let him in the house, 454 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: like you knew him growing up and he was clearly 455 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: in distress. Why didn't you let him in the house 456 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: because he was naked? Oh? Okay, that makes more sense. 457 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: But do you say that. Do you say, oh, it 458 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: was late, so I didn't let him in the house. 459 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: Just go home to his wife. Okay, let's let's stop 460 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: for a second. We've all known someone that we were 461 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: interested in dating or having some kind of relationship with, 462 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: and you go to their door and you're going to 463 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: knock on their door and it's utterly nerve racking when 464 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: they're not expecting you. Now take your clothes off, and 465 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 1: her drunk and you have a concussion. And this woman 466 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: was like your eighteen year old babysitter when you were 467 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: like eight cush right, and she was your crush from 468 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: forever your brain. This is how you show it. You 469 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: do the naked Man. That works every time. Yeah, it 470 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: works every time. Wait what works? It works three out 471 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: of four times. What does the naked man at a 472 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: TV show reference? It's fine, let's talk about it later. 473 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: Seeing I'll teach you about the Naked Man. You hear 474 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: about the Naked Man, Yeah, that reminds me about I 475 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 1: had this idea for a superhero. It's called Naked Man. Now, 476 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 1: he shows up in the crime scene and he goes 477 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: to close with the criminal, you know, like like Batman would, 478 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: and the criminal just like drop. Somebody says no, no, dude, 479 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: it's okay. I'll go peacefully. Then naked man, no, no, no, no, 480 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: stay back, I give up. It's okay, I did and 481 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: I did it okay, yeah boy were yeah okay. So anyway, yeah, 482 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: that's so that that sums up my theories. Anyway, So 483 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: the hitchhiker puts him in the car, and then the 484 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 1: truck tucker show up, and the checker who doesn't want 485 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: to talk to the police figure as well, my job's done, 486 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna beat feet out of here. So it could 487 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: all behem beat feet. Yeah. Once again, we've dropped so 488 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: many in this episode. When this gets translated to German, 489 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: it is going to be so unintelligible right now, I 490 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 1: know we're going to frustrate a lot of German speakers. 491 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: I have a friend who's a linguistics major, and she 492 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: very free. She works in the business world, and she 493 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: just texted me almost daily about like really like we're 494 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 1: using the term ramp up to talk about this, you know, 495 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: like all the euphemisms that happen in the business world, 496 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 1: but also just like in English in general. You know, 497 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: she's fluent in five different languages and you know, English 498 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: is the one that does it the most. We use 499 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: these weird terms for stuff. That's just like, I don't know, 500 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: if you aren't native, that's fine, but it's not even 501 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: if you're not native, right, it's like if you're born 502 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: in the wrong area. Like, you know, Southerners use words 503 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: that we're just like, I don't know what you're talking about, 504 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: East Coasters, Midwestern you know, we use words like a 505 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: lot of English speakers in this world have no idea English, 506 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: like British English speakers to go on a tangent. Yeah, 507 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: that's that's very tangential, but it's true. That's okay. So 508 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: we'll just edit you out later. Actually, perfect, you edit 509 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: me out all the time. I guess it's time to 510 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 1: tell you this. Yeah, we've edited you completely out of 511 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: every episode. Really, yeah, pretty much, I'm not part of 512 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: this show. We'll just have you on the show because 513 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: you always bring beer. Man. Yeah, I knew you guys 514 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: are using me. Oh yeah, sorry about that, but keep 515 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 1: bringing the beer. Uh. So, anyway, you guys have any 516 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: more theories, black holes, I don't the missing time. The 517 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: one thing that sticks in my craw again, the sticks 518 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: in my crowd about The whole thing is just these 519 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: weird lapses where he's unaccounted for for several hours at 520 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: a time. Tunny, it's a half hour where you don't 521 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 1: know where somebody is, is you're kind of plotting their day, 522 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: that's still big deal. But when it becomes hours and 523 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: he's in a relatively small area really really makes me 524 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 1: wonder what he was doing. Yeah, well, we could have 525 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: been doing anything. He could have He could have gotten 526 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: to a movie. It could have gone to a porno shop. 527 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you could have set in his car video, 528 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: gone for a drive. I go. But I will say 529 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: that you know, as a ufologististufologists No, I mean you 530 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: know that we are a little bit that is that 531 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: is not in the lexicon. It is now you're welcome. No, 532 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: I mean one of the one of the things that 533 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,719 Speaker 1: people talk about with alien abductions is lost time. Four time, um, 534 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: and but that that's nine times out of ten that's 535 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: somebody reporting like I don't know. I was looking at 536 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: the clock and then suddenly it was four hours later 537 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: and I don't know where that time went. It's not 538 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: happen all the time. Hey, a drunk person like I 539 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: was unaccounted for for a couple of hours and then 540 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: he died. You know, it's it's much harder to kind 541 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: of figure out what's going on with this sort of thing. 542 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: And I guess, you know, the only thing that would 543 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: keep me from saying that it was something really malicious 544 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: is that he was apparently cognizant enough to say, there 545 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: were four other people with me and no, we're not 546 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: my friends. But if if it was something malicious, right, 547 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: you kind of feel like he would have said he 548 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: was definitely in the state of mind to have said, uh, no, 549 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: they were trying to kill me, you know, I was, 550 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: you know, something like that. Yeah, I don't know, No, 551 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: I um, you know, I really don't know. I mean, 552 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: because I mean, on the one hand, it's so as 553 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: they strip him naked, push him out in front of 554 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: the car, scrape him up off the pave, and put 555 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: him back in the car, ticket somewhere else, and then 556 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: deliberately crashed the card. And the only thing would be 557 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: is that then they would have if they were trying 558 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: to make it look like he crashed his car and 559 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: that's how he died. Yeah, they would have drug him 560 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: into the driver's seat exactly, unless the truck showed up 561 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: and they couldn't finish. The white jacket guy or light 562 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: jacket guy was meant to drag him over. Yeah, I 563 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: you know, it could be that, you know, like your 564 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: your theory that he went to a bar and met 565 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: some guys you know, and he was giving him a 566 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: ride home and then crashed, you know, and then you know, 567 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: and maybe they're maybe they're a little angry with him, 568 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: so they strip him naked and shove him out in 569 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: front of a car, you know, and then grab him 570 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: put him back in the car. Well that we are 571 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: so far down the rest. Yeah, this is one of 572 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: those ones where there's it's just like a wide open 573 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: rob you can. We can sit here and theorize you 574 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: could just and just keep going forever. Yeah, but I 575 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: think I really do feel like it's more likely that 576 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: he for whatever reason, he was naked and definitely was drunk. 577 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: You know, people are more likely to do things like 578 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: getting naked when they're drunk. I don't know why. Yeah, yeah, uh, 579 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: you know, maybe he really did wreck the car, really 580 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: was out trying to flag down a car, forgot that 581 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: he was naked, and and somebody just didn't see him 582 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: and ran them over. And then somebody came along and 583 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: helped put him in his car so he wouldn't freeze, 584 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: and then left, you know, something like that. It's not 585 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: necessarily a supernatural or I guess my you know, to 586 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: go on that right, I'm going to say he drove 587 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: his car into a ditch for whatever reason. Strip naked 588 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: was you know, flagging down. A car got hit. This 589 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: hitchhiker saw it happen, goes running to help him. Jack's 590 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: clothes because you know, for he's unconscious, because you know, 591 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: for whatever, for whatever reason. I mean, like people still 592 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: close all the time. If there's are you gonna still 593 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: bloody torn up? Are you talking about Jack the clothes 594 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: that were already taken off of his body. Yeah, yeah, 595 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: because he was before he goes and he's like, well 596 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: there's you know, he tries to help him. He's going 597 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: to a different one. He sees the truck driver's pull 598 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: up and he's like, you know what, they'll take care 599 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: of it. They're great people. I'm gonna go you know, 600 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: he's the lamb or whatever. Yeah, that's possible, and it it 601 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: is possibly jacked his clothes, although again the information is 602 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: sketchy and his clothes might have been in the back 603 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: seat of the car and it just wasn't reporting. I 604 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. So if anybody out there knows, 605 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: if you're the guy in the light colored jacket, please 606 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: contact us. Ostensibly totally still alive, Yeah, totally, it's not 607 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: that long ago. If you're the person in the if 608 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: you're the hitchhiker, please give us a call. Also, find 609 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: us on Facebook and like us. You can find us 610 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: on iTunes. If you find us on iTunes, please give 611 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: us a review. You can find us on Stitcher. If 612 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: you don't have time to download it, can forget gave 613 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: us on to go or if you're if you forget, 614 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: if you want to set us an email or email 615 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: addresses Thinking Sideways Podcast at gmail dot com. And our 616 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: website is thinking sideways podcast dot com. And you'll find 617 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: our episodes out there also, so you don't need to 618 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: go to pesci old iTunes for some reason or another 619 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: boycotting them or something. Well, and we'll have the links 620 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: on the website of course, so that's one of the 621 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: benefits too. You'll have some cool probably in English, no, 622 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: we'll do you one in German, just to see what 623 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: people are running. Yeah, you know, for our German listeners. 624 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: Do we have any email? We do, Actually we've got 625 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: a lot of email. Do you have any email we 626 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: want to read? This? Well, that's the whole thing. You 627 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: can't read them all. We totally have an email that 628 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: I wanted to read this week. I actually got a 629 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: big kick out of it. This is from Crary. I 630 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: believe it is how you pronounce the name and it 631 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: says I just listened to your awesome polybius And there 632 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: was a description of how most emulated ROMs are for 633 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: home consoles, which I think is a common belief. But 634 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: there's a huge arcade emulating community. Which are we talking about, 635 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: like underground arcade communities? Because that must be the truth. 636 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: I didn't know this, oh my goodness, which is pretty rad. Uh. 637 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: So gave us a couple of things here which let's 638 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: we'll post them. Probably the easiest one. It's because something 639 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, But they their main M a m 640 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: E is a program that emulates thousands of arcade games 641 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: and the runs are currently out there. But there's also 642 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: the issue and I'm paraphrasing here, but there's a legal 643 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: issue of taking somebody else's game and reusing it. But 644 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,959 Speaker 1: it was just it was offering this to us because 645 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: of course I think that we went off a little 646 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: bit about I know I did go off on ROMs 647 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: for a really long time. Yeah, I wouldn't mind that 648 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: lading asteroids. Yeah yeah, And so evidently that's where all 649 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: the Arcade games we want is that. Perry also said well, 650 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: thanks for not some podcasts, which is great. I then 651 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: had to reply back about the fact that I have 652 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 1: a job and relationship, and I eat regular meals, and 653 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: I have things that I have to be at on 654 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 1: a regular basis. I don't have any of those. I'm 655 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: going to forego. So will you make sure to ford 656 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: those to me because I literally have not have those 657 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: right now? You still have to show here. Well, okay, 658 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: so I have one commitment a week and you have 659 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: to do your research. Okay, so I've like one and 660 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: a half commitments a week and then we have to 661 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: edit you out. Listen, email this to me because I 662 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 1: need this so bad. I needed too, just for asteroids 663 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: and a couple of others. I can't keep going to 664 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: ground control. That's expensive. Yeah, it's real expensive. Yeah, anybody 665 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: ground controls in Arcade here in Portland, actual arcade and 666 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: arcade for arcade there, then over one Arcade You're welcome. 667 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: Someday I'll host a little something there. And then that God, 668 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: what was a tank game that came out right after Asteroids? 669 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: It was I know, the one we've talked about. We 670 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,959 Speaker 1: talked about it. That was it was. That was really 671 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: cool too for the time. I mean, obviously it was 672 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: pretty crude for right today's standard, But no, that I 673 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 1: really like that at email that gave us. That was 674 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: really good following up. Yeah, and I can't go to this. 675 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 1: We're gonna have to go to this badly. It to me, 676 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 1: Jones is gonna get do it? What else? I'm sorry, 677 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: I was thinking about games. What are we doing? Nothing emails? 678 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: That's what we're pretty much. We're pretty much done here. 679 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: We can wrap it up. Any last thoughts, No, yeah, 680 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,280 Speaker 1: neither in my mind's a blank. Okay, well, bye bye everybody, 681 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: Thanks you guys. We'll talk to you soon.