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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 2: Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. I

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Speaker 2: hope all of you are ready to roll into the

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Speaker 2: weekend with me today. Buck would much rather be here,

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Speaker 2: but he is in the process of moving into a

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Speaker 2: new place in Florida, so he and Carrie are engaging

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Speaker 2: in that always difficult task. He'll be back with me

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Speaker 2: on Monday. It's just me and you rolling through on Friday,

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Speaker 2: headed into the weekend. A little bit of a roadmap

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Speaker 2: us at one thirty. North Dakota governor had a pretty solid,

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Speaker 2: I thought performance on the stage Wednesday night out in

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Speaker 2: the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library, and he has not yet

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Speaker 1: I think he's the only person who.

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Speaker 2: Was on the stage that has not yet been on

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Speaker 2: The Clay and Buck Show who is running for president

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Speaker 2: there in the Republican primary.

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Speaker 1: So we will talk with him at one thirty.

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Speaker 2: My friend Tommy larn OutKick employee Fox News in Presario,

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Speaker 2: she will be on with us at two thirty. That

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Speaker 2: is where we are headed, but we begin with some

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Speaker 2: breaking news happened this morning that is going to have

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Speaker 2: many different ripple effects going forward. And let's start with condolences.

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Speaker 2: Diane Feinstein, ninety years old, longest serving woman senator in

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Speaker 1: She died.

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Speaker 2: She passed this morning at the age of ninety. Now, unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: she has been in the news a great deal of

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Speaker 2: late because she hasn't had the mental faculties and been

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Speaker 2: able to do her job as Senator. And we've talked

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Speaker 2: about this some on the program because in a tightly

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Speaker 2: contested fifty one to forty nine Senate, and that's being

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Speaker 2: generous because Joe Manchin, Kirsten Cinema aren't really reliable Tomocrat voters.

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Speaker 2: As you know, Cinema now is an independent mansion, has

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Speaker 2: flirted with independence. There isn't really a tangible majority in

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Speaker 2: the United States Senate. So now with Robert Menendez underfire

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Speaker 2: demands for him to resign in New Jersey, Democrats are

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Speaker 2: in peril there. And now with Dianne Feinstein's death, Gavin Newsom,

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Speaker 2: the governor of California, is forced to appoint a replacement

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Speaker 2: for her. Now here's the challenge. Her tenure was set

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Speaker 2: did not have the ability to even make her own

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Speaker 2: as a United States center She has a power of

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Speaker 2: That's scary. She has a legacy. She was a very

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Speaker 2: powerful senator. She has a long legacy of serving this country.

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Speaker 2: But in the last several years, that legacy vanished to

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Speaker 2: who are still in that position. Let's play. Let me

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Speaker 3: Your Senator Dianne Feinstein, who passed away this morning. She

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Speaker 3: was an historic figure, trailblazer for women and a great

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Speaker 3: going to miss her daily, and so will Jill and

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Speaker 3: I have more to say about her later today.

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Speaker 2: Okay, here's the reality. And I think it's hard not

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Speaker 2: I feel like that same thing is going to happen

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Speaker 1: Listen, if in.

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Speaker 4: Fact, Diane Feinstein were to retire, will you nominate an

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Speaker 4: is no longer in the United States Senate? And do

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Speaker 4: you have a name in mind?

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Speaker 1: I have multiple, we have multiple names of mind. And

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Speaker 2: So he has now done the same thing that Joe

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Speaker 2: a determination to pick someone to replace Diane Feinstein, just

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Speaker 2: as Joe Biden did for a Supreme Court justice. To

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Speaker 2: than these two decisions in concert, because beyond the shadow

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden and Gavin Newsom are both saying, at the outset,

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Speaker 2: consider for these jobs. And when they make that comment,

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Speaker 2: what they are saying is that you should be judged

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Speaker 2: entirely by something that you did not choose. This is important.

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Speaker 2: None of us choose our gender, none of us with

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Speaker 2: To me, your race and your gender are two of

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Speaker 2: But also when you are saying that we are going

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Speaker 2: what you are saying is you're simultaneously being sexist and

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Speaker 2: he put that list out and it was well vetted. Federalist

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden could have done that, Lavin Newsom could do that.

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Speaker 2: Now they could say, hey, here's a list of all

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Speaker 2: Media out there could do their deep dive. Politically, everybody

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Speaker 2: could argue in favor of whomever they think is the

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Speaker 2: And you or I might not agree with that. We

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Speaker 2: might even say, well, this is still identity politics, but

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Speaker 1: Her race or her gender.

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Speaker 2: When you say I'm only going to pick someone of

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Speaker 2: a direct refutation of everything that America stands for, the

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Speaker 2: idea that the meritocracy should govern who ends up in

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Speaker 2: should win, by the way, not the best man pretending.

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Speaker 1: To be a woman. But that's an entirely different story.

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Speaker 2: Already, Gavin Newsom has stripped away the legitimacy of whomever

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Speaker 2: because he's already said he's not even going to consider

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Speaker 2: This is everything that's wrong with identity politics which has

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Speaker 2: because he knows that the politics of his own party

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Speaker 2: If we truly cared about having an American society that

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Speaker 2: is equal for everyone. The way to solve issues of

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Speaker 2: of racism. Racism doesn't cure racism. I'm going to tell

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Speaker 2: been rejected by the Democrat Party. It's called to Kill

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Speaker 2: a Mockingbird. The entire purpose of To Kill a Mockingbird

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Speaker 2: assigned to kill a mockingbird. The Democrat Party is now

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Speaker 2: the villains of the book To Kill a Mockingbird, because

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Speaker 2: judging truth, justice, fairness in American society is the identity

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Speaker 2: of the individuals involved, not the facts and the truth.

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Speaker 2: I'm fired up about this. By the way, it's Friday,

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Speaker 2: for by Palm Beach Research Group welcome back in Clay

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Speaker 2: Travis buck Sexton Showbuck is out moving today.

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Speaker 1: He will be back with us on Monday.

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Speaker 2: I'm joined now by North Dakota governor, who did really well,

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Speaker 2: I thought on the stage on Wednesday, Doug Bergham, Governor.

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Speaker 5: Well, first of all, Clay, great to be on with you.

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Speaker 5: And then the second thing they're saying is, you know,

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Speaker 2: So before we get into Wednesday the first debate, I

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Speaker 2: don't know that I know the full story. You were

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Speaker 1: How what's the what?

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Speaker 2: That was one of the most amazing things I thought

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Speaker 1: I don't know what you had.

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Speaker 2: Spent on running for election, but getting injured playing pickup

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Speaker 5: Well, first of all, I've played basketball my entire life

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Speaker 5: got going anyway, I've ended up blowing my achilles. It

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Speaker 2: So hold on, what's your staff's reaction when you go

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, having played ball my whole life and

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Speaker 1: I mean that as bad ass. That is awesome.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been a great sport. But I three times

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Speaker 5: Yeah it is. And then somebody showed me the close

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Speaker 5: that's exactly what it feels. It feels like a little

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Speaker 5: we're we you know, we's have a phrase in North Dakota,

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Speaker 2: So here's what I love about what I have been

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Speaker 1: You have an incredible business background.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Claig. Quick story is, I grew up in

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Speaker 5: twenty four. I mean they would without Trump, I think,

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Speaker 5: you know there, because that's the one person that they

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Speaker 5: think they can be, that's they can he can be

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Speaker 5: the rallying pride for the Democrats to win. And so

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Speaker 5: it's it's just an interesting thing. But I'm not I'm

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Speaker 5: not a pundit. I'm not running to be a pundit.

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Speaker 5: I'm running to be president. I'm running against Joe Biden.

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Speaker 5: And Joe Biden's policies on economy, energy, and national security

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Speaker 5: are completely one hundred percent one hundred and eighty degrees

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Speaker 5: in the wrong direction, and that's why we've got this

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Speaker 5: high inflation and high interest rates. That's why we're you

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Speaker 5: know out you know, we're trying to kill the US

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Speaker 5: energy industry and we're empowering dictators. You know, buy ed

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Speaker 5: batteries from China. And then when you kill the US

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Speaker 5: oil industry, I guess we'll just buy all of our

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Speaker 5: own gas from Venezuela and an Opek because the demand

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Speaker 5: for energy globally is not going down. When you kill

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Speaker 5: the US energy industry, other people replace it. Russia, Venezuela, Opak.

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Speaker 5: These guys replaced production and it makes the word they

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Speaker 5: produce it dirtier than we do. So these environmentalists that

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Speaker 5: think they're saving the world by driving an ev for

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Speaker 5: shutting down a pipeline in the US, all it does

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Speaker 5: is just diplace dismand displace demand. That demand comes from

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Speaker 5: people that don't have epas, that don't care about the

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Speaker 5: environment the way we do, and the world gets the

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Speaker 5: world environment becomes worse. And so that's why I say

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Speaker 5: one hundred and eighty degrees. If you cared about the environment,

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Speaker 5: you would be insisting that we build pipelines in the US,

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Speaker 5: that we use clean US energy, that we have every

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Speaker 5: drop and every electron made in our country, not someplace else.

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Speaker 5: And then of course we do that. That's how we

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Speaker 5: win the Cold War with China, because China imports ten

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Speaker 5: million barrels of oil a day. The one tool we

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Speaker 5: could use to win a Cold war with China is

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Speaker 5: food security and energy security, and our diplomats the four

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Speaker 5: cabinet leaders that have been there don't even bring those

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Speaker 5: two topics up because they're too busy trying to regulate

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Speaker 5: our own country out of business.

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Speaker 2: I asked you about Biden. You obviously would be running

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Speaker 2: against Tim in theory if he were there. But Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump is a prohibitive favorite. Right now, Why are you

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Speaker 2: a better choice than Donald Trump?

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Speaker 5: Well, I think that the real answer lies here in

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Speaker 5: having competition for the Republican Party, and the voters in

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Speaker 5: Iowa New Hampshire are going to get to decide that.

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Speaker 5: When I look at the polls in New Hampshire and

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Speaker 5: I say, hey, if you've got the leader at forty

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Speaker 5: two percent, that means fifty eight percent of the people

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Speaker 5: today three months before they don't even have all There's

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Speaker 5: lots of new information. You know, people like you that

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Speaker 5: may not have heard of me two weeks ago. Everybody

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Speaker 5: in the country has all the information they can on

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Speaker 5: Donald Trump. You can't really add more information into it.

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Speaker 5: Every voter's already made up their mind. So between now

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Speaker 5: and January, those fifty eight percent of the people that

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Speaker 5: are looking around for alternatives, that's a majority. You know,

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Speaker 5: ignore the national polls. There isn't campaigns happening nationally. They're

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Speaker 5: happening in Iowa and New Hampshire right now. That's the

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Speaker 5: real signal, not the noise. And and those folks are

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Speaker 5: looking and there's a lot of new information we can

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Speaker 5: put in to say, hey, here's someone, as you said,

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Speaker 5: that's got you know, we're I've been making payroll every

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Speaker 5: two weeks since my mid twenties. I've created more jobs

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Speaker 5: than all those other candidates that I was on the

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Speaker 5: stage on with the other night, and likely the former

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Speaker 5: president himself, with all the companies that I've involved with

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Speaker 5: in the job creation, and they're high paying jobs with

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Speaker 5: meaning is what I've been involved in the tech industry.

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Speaker 5: And now we're in a world where every job, every company,

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Speaker 5: and every industry is changing. We're in a cyber war

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Speaker 5: every day. Wouldn't it be amazing to have someone in

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Speaker 5: the White House that actually understood what it meant to

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Speaker 5: be a working American and have somebody who understood the

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Speaker 5: technology of what it's going to take for us to

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Speaker 5: improve our military, secure our borders, and in supercharge our economy.

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Speaker 5: That would be cool. And I hear that from all

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Speaker 5: the time, and people like, why don't we just get

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Speaker 5: a common guy to actually run who knows who's got

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Speaker 5: high executive buncture, has proven he can get it done.

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Speaker 5: At the state level, And in North Dakota, we've got

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Speaker 5: the highest GDP of any Republican led state. We're on

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Speaker 5: track to have the highest in the country. We've got

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Speaker 5: among the highest education scores. We aren't having the issues

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Speaker 5: that folks are having in some of these large cities.

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Speaker 5: We understand borders at three hundred and sixty mile border

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Speaker 5: with Canada. And I had software in nineteen eighty nine.

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Speaker 5: My software was getting stolen by China. Some people discovered China,

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Speaker 5: you know, in the last month. You know what I've

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Speaker 5: been saying for a long time, we're in a cold

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Speaker 5: war with China because they were stealing my software thirty

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Speaker 5: four years ago and walked into a street market in

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Speaker 5: China and there was great plane software for a buck

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Speaker 5: for a five and a quarter is floppy. In nineteen

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Speaker 5: eighty nine, they've stolen trillions from us. So someone who's

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Speaker 5: got the experience I have and the ability to mobilize great,

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Speaker 5: high performing teams, you know, I think it's an interesting

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Speaker 5: thing and voters are going to get a chance to decide,

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Speaker 5: and I would in Hampshire if they think that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: In January, he's Doug Burgham, Governor of North Dakota. If

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Speaker 2: people want to find out more, where should they go online?

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Speaker 5: Doug Burgham dot com.

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Speaker 1: Outstanding stuff. I appreciate you coming on.

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Speaker 2: Good luck as this process continues to play self out,

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Speaker 2: Governor Clay.

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Speaker 5: Love to be back on. Thanks for letting me run

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Speaker 5: and introduce myself to your audience. Butppreciate everything you're doing,

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Speaker 5: Appreciate the opportunity to be on with you, and thank

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Speaker 5: you for those nice comments you made the other night.

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Speaker 5: Everybody in my family just wants me to say thank you.

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Speaker 1: Clay Well, I.

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Speaker 2: Hope you think thank you for your family for those

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Speaker 2: kind words, and also good luck recovering on that Achilles.

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Speaker 2: I mean that has to be crazy to be traveling

547
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Speaker 2: and working as hard as you can while you're recovering simultaneously.

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Speaker 2: And I hope you get back on the basketball court soon.

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Speaker 5: Well, thank you. And I would want to say, if

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Speaker 5: anybody wants to have a contest and who's got the

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Speaker 5: strongest right leg. I'm ready to go right now after

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Speaker 5: five weeks on one leg. But we'll be back for sure.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Yeah, no doubt. I want to tell

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Speaker 2: you I live here in Tennessee. You guys know that.

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Speaker 2: And I love preserving memories. I was just talking about

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Speaker 2: going to Epcot seeing President Ronald Reagan when I was

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Speaker 2: four or five years old. My mom said, she texted

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Speaker 2: me she was listening's down on the Florida Gulf Coast

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Speaker 2: right now on the beach. She said, the way she

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Speaker 2: kept track of me what she could see my red

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Speaker 2: little tennis shoes.

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Speaker 1: When I was all the way up at the front

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Speaker 1: of that row line.

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Speaker 2: There are a lot of pictures of me in those

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Speaker 2: old red tennis shoes from back in the nineteen eighties.

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Speaker 2: Want to preserve those forever. They're old photographs. There's also

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Speaker 2: old videos of my family. We've taken advantage of the

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Speaker 2: Legacy Box you can too. They're based in my mom's

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Speaker 2: hometown at Chattanooga, Tennessee. I spent a lot of time

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Speaker 2: down there when I was a kid. And you know,

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Speaker 2: the guys at Legacy Box. They have the largest collection

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Speaker 2: of v HS tapes and of VCRs probably anywhere in

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Speaker 2: the world because they're constantly preserving your old tapes and

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Speaker 2: old photos and turn them into digital files. Ten years

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Speaker 2: in business, they've helped over a million families save and

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Speaker 2: relive their best memories forever. Visit legacybox dot com slash Clay.

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Speaker 2: You'll get forty percent off. That's a legacybox dot com

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Speaker 2: slash clay. Welcome back in Clay. Travis buck Sexton Show

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Speaker 2: appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Friday edition

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Speaker 2: of the program, talking about Gavin Newsom saying that he

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Speaker 2: is only going to appoint a black woman to the

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Speaker 2: United States. It's a choice that will have to be

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Speaker 2: made soon, probably because we're dealing with the looming impact

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Speaker 2: potentially of a government shutdown. You might be out there saying,

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Speaker 2: you and Buck, you really haven't talked that much about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because it's gonna eventually get resolved. I just the idea

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Speaker 2: that the day by day nuts and bolts, nitty gritty

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Speaker 2: of government shutdowns is really going to impact things in

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Speaker 2: a substantial way. If we end up with a shutdown

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Speaker 2: this weekend, I think within the next ten days or so,

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Speaker 2: we'll shut down will end, and everybody who wasn't working

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Speaker 2: will get paid back pay, and everything basically will be

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Speaker 2: the exact same. So we haven't spent a lot of

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Speaker 2: time on that, but it is indicative, I think of

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Speaker 2: the rotten core of the modern Democrat Party that identity

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Speaker 2: politics is all that matters. That you could even say

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Speaker 2: I'm only going to appoint a black woman to this job,

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Speaker 2: eliminating ninety four percent of people from consideration for that

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Speaker 2: job in the process, while also delegitimizing your ultimate pick

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Speaker 2: because you aren't saying she's the best person for the job.

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Speaker 2: You're saying she's the best black woman for the job,

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Speaker 2: which means she only beat out six percent of the population,

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Speaker 2: not one hundred percent of the population. But when you

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Speaker 2: think about it, this is an analogy that I think

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Speaker 2: is so important and I don't hear it made, And

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Speaker 2: so I'm gonna hammer this home for you. I bet

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Speaker 2: every single person listening to me right now, read to

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Speaker 2: Kill a Mockingbird at some point when you were in school.

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Speaker 1: And if you didn't read it.

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Speaker 2: I bet your kids or grandkids read it nearly one

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Speaker 2: hundred percent penetration rate. It is by many statistical measures

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Speaker 2: when they test these things the most popular novel ever

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Speaker 2: written in the history of the United States, Harper Lee.

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Speaker 2: To Kill a Mockingbird came out in nineteen sixty. For

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Speaker 2: those of you who don't remember the basic plot, the

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Speaker 2: basic plot is this, a black man, Tom Robinson, is

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Speaker 2: accused of raping a white woman, Mayella Eule, and Atticus

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Speaker 2: Finch is the Southern attorney in small town Alabama who

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Speaker 2: is defending Tom Robinson in the nineteen thirties in the

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Speaker 2: Jim Crow South, and his daughter Scout is the first

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Speaker 2: person narrator of this story. All of the evidence reveals

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Speaker 2: that Mayella Yule made up the rape. Tom Robinson never

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Speaker 2: raped her at all, but under the existing identity politics

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Speaker 2: of nineteen thirties Alabama, of a pre civil rights South,

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Speaker 2: an all white jury convicted Tom Robinson of rape something

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Speaker 2: that he did not do. Why did they convict him

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Speaker 2: entirely because of his race?

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Speaker 1: The white woman.

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Speaker 2: Had to be believed over the black man, because those

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Speaker 2: were the identity politics rules of the pre Civil rights South.

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Speaker 1: That was wrong.

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Speaker 2: Scout, this young narrator of To Kill a Mockingbird, is

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Speaker 2: astounded that truth and justice does not ultimately prevail, and

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Speaker 2: that what matters is not the facts of a case

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Speaker 2: but your race. In that case. What Democrats are doing

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Speaker 2: is the exact same thing that the racist jury in

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Speaker 2: To Kill a Mockingbird did. They are putting identity above

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Speaker 2: all else. They aren't taking America into a better future.

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Speaker 2: They are taking America into an awful past. This is

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Speaker 2: really important, and I was thinking about it a lot

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Speaker 2: this morning when I was doing my prep for the show,

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Speaker 2: and I saw those quotes from Gavin Newsom, and I

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Speaker 2: thought to myself, here we go again. Joe Biden said

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Speaker 2: I'm only going to put a black woman on the

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Speaker 2: Supreme Court.

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Speaker 1: He did it.

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Speaker 2: Now Gavin Newsom is saying I'm only going to put

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Speaker 2: a black woman on the United States Senate. I think

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Speaker 2: he's probably going to do it. The modern day Democrat

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Speaker 2: Party is racist. They are the exact saying identity politics

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Speaker 2: people who existed in the nineteen thirties, in the nineteen forties,

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Speaker 2: in the nineteen fifties in the American South in particular.

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Speaker 2: They aren't elevating America to a place where your own

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Speaker 2: success is determined by your own level of excellence, by

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Speaker 2: the content of your character, not by the color of

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Speaker 2: your skin. They're taking us back into a pre civil

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Speaker 2: rights era in America where all that matters is the

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Speaker 2: color of your skin. And this, of course is building

659
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Speaker 2: on what happened to Brett Kavanaugh when we were all

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Speaker 2: told hashtag believe all women. This is an important truth.

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Speaker 2: Men lie, women lie, White people lie, Black people lie,

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Speaker 2: Asian people lie, Hispanic people lie, heterosexual people lie, homosexual

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Speaker 2: people lie, trans people.

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Speaker 1: Lie, All humans lie.

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Speaker 2: That's why, in the ideal version of justice, Lady Justice

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Speaker 2: standing with the scales, she wears a blindfold.

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Speaker 1: Why is she wearing a blindfold? Because she doesn't want

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Speaker 1: the identity to impact how she weighs the scales of justice.

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Speaker 1: That's what we aspire to.

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Speaker 2: In court, in justice itself, that is why Lady Justice

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Speaker 2: is blind. What we are now recreating is a world

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Speaker 2: where facts do not matter, where there is no analysis

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Speaker 2: whatsoever of who is telling the truth, but where instead

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Speaker 2: the scales of justice are impacted entirely based on the

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Speaker 2: identity of the individuals involved in a case. I'm not

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Speaker 2: here to tell you that American justice is perfect, Certainly

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Speaker 2: it's not. That's what Harper Lee was pointing out when

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Speaker 2: she wrote her book in nineteen sixty about the pre

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Speaker 2: Civil Rights South, that America was failing to live up

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Speaker 2: to the benedictions and appeals of the Declaration of Independence,

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Speaker 2: that our more perfect union had not been created where

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Speaker 2: equality and meritocracy dominated, and Democrats have just given up

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Speaker 2: on that notion, and they are nakedly embracing the argument

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Speaker 2: that whether you are telling the truth is a function

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Speaker 2: not of facts, but of your identity. Whether it was

686
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Speaker 2: with Brett Kavanaugh and his accusers hashtag believe all women.

687
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 2: You all know some women lie, some men lie. You

688
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 2: can never believe somebody based on their sex. You also

689
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 2: can't believe anyone based on their gender. It's the same

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00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 2: thing as sex based on their race. Based on their sexuality,

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Speaker 2: every single identity group has liars and truth tellers, and

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Speaker 2: that is, to me, the root cancer of American society today.

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Speaker 2: It's that we don't decide in much of the American

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Speaker 2: body politic whether someone is innocent or guilty, whether they

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Speaker 2: are right or wrong, based on analyzing all the facts

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Speaker 2: and trying to be like Lady Justice and strip away

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Speaker 2: all of our preconceived notion. And that's why I became

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Speaker 2: a lawyer, to try to be able to find the

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Speaker 2: truth in the adversarial system of our courtroom, of our

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Speaker 2: justice system in general. We don't do that anymore. And

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Speaker 2: it all ties together.

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Speaker 1: You can see.

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Speaker 2: That's what's going on with Donald Trump. That's why he's

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Speaker 2: being charged. You can add politics in. If Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: had run as a Democrat, he would have never been

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Speaker 2: charged with any of these crimes. Donald Trump is being

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Speaker 2: prosecuted because of his identity as a Republican. Many of

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Speaker 2: you out there, you know what I heard most often

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Speaker 2: when I was on my book tour. Most often I

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Speaker 2: heard people came up to me, they said, you say

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Speaker 2: what I wish I could say. We live in America

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Speaker 2: where the culture of fear is so prevalent that every

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Speaker 2: single one of you live listening to me right now,

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Speaker 2: has had an opinion at some point in the last

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Speaker 2: decade that you were afraid to put on Facebook, that

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Speaker 2: you were afraid to share at work, that you were

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00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 2: afraid to actually make public because you knew that based

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Speaker 2: on your identity, you might lose your job, you might

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Speaker 2: not be able to pay your mortgage, you might not

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Speaker 2: be able to afford to pay for your kids to

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Speaker 2: go to community college, or to go to college, or

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Speaker 2: to go try to gain some skill in trade that

723
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Speaker 2: you're helping to raise them for. That's wrong, and it's

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Speaker 2: all rooted in identity politics, which is the toxic cancer

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Speaker 2: of the Democrat Party and it must be destroyed. But

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Speaker 2: right now they're not even hiding it. They're saying to

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Speaker 2: you straight out in the open, Gavin Newsom, who wants

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Speaker 2: to be the next president of the United States for Democrats,

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Speaker 2: I'm picking someone because she's a black woman. And you

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Speaker 2: know what they'll use is their justification. If Gavin Newsom

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Speaker 2: were coming on this program right now, you know why,

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Speaker 2: he'd say he's doing it because of the legacy of racism.

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Speaker 2: Guess what, You don't cure racism with more racism. Look,

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Speaker 2: you know right now, it's fifty percent less testosterone all

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Speaker 2: over this country. Biden White House place where they make

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Speaker 2: racist and sexist decisions every single day, probably the lowest

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Speaker 2: amount of testosterone in the history of this country. I

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Speaker 2: wish I could send him a bunch of chalk. I

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Speaker 2: would do it right now, truckloads a chalk. You remember

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Speaker 2: when they wanted to drop all the broccoli off because

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Speaker 2: George W. Bush didn't like broccoli. I'd like to drop

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Speaker 2: off testosterone into the White House so they could make

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Speaker 2: a big difference. Couldn't hurt Biden's got no energy anyway.

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Speaker 2: A little bit tost testosterone make a big difference. Fifty

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Speaker 2: percent less than your grandfathers and your great grandfather's had.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you take to all natural supplements at Chalk,

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Speaker 2: that's more vitality, that's less Joe Biden like behavior in

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Speaker 2: your life. All you have to do is go to

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Speaker 2: That is cchoq dot com, Chalk dot com thirty five

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Speaker 2: percent off for life. Do it today, Welcome back in

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Speaker 2: Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. I'll take some of your

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Speaker 2: calls to close up the show h on the Friday

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Speaker 2: edition here eight hundred and two A two two eight

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Speaker 2: A two in a little bit, so load up those lines.

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Speaker 2: But in the meantime, joined by my good friend Tommy Larn,

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Speaker 2: she does a fabulous show without kick.

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Speaker 1: She has been up in New York City.

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Speaker 2: And my understanding is that you are currently attempting to

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Speaker 2: get to the airport amid the flooded situation in New

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Speaker 2: York City. What's it like in the streets right now, Tommy,

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Speaker 2: it's not great.

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Speaker 6: And you know, Clay, you and I both live in Nashville,

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Speaker 6: so we're used to a little bit of rain. New

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Speaker 6: York not used to a little bit of rain, I

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Speaker 6: will tell you that much. And apparently it's a real

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Speaker 6: feat to fly out of LaGuardia when it is sprinkling.

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Speaker 6: That's what I have learned today. So you know, God willing,

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Speaker 6: I will get back to Nashville, and I'm not sure

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Speaker 6: i'll ever leave again, to be honest with you.

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Speaker 2: So, your good friend Gavin Newsom is in the news

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Speaker 2: on a variety of different fronts. I am fascinated by

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Speaker 2: so many of them. Let's start here what do you

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Speaker 2: think of Gavin Newsom pledging that he's only going to

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Speaker 2: put a black woman in to replace Dianne Feinstein, who

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Speaker 2: has obviously died this morning, but they're already talking about

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Speaker 2: who her replacement is.

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Speaker 6: So I have a conspiracy theory for you, because I've

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Speaker 6: been thinking about this once. The way that they get

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Speaker 6: around this right now. I know this would be a

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Speaker 6: crazy seat. I know that this would this would involve,

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Speaker 6: you know, a lot of technicalities, and I'm not sure

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Speaker 6: it's even constitutionally possible. But I immediately thought, aha, he

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Speaker 6: appoints Kamala Harris, gets her out of the way, Joe

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Speaker 6: doesn't run, Gavin Newsom runs for president. I've been trying

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Speaker 6: to figure out the puzzle of how Gavin Newsom is

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Speaker 6: going to assume the role of the Democrat nominee. And

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Speaker 6: you know what, I don't know if it's constitutionally possible.

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Speaker 6: But when I heard this, I'm thinking, maybe Kamala goes

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Speaker 6: back to the Senate, they get rid of her the

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Speaker 6: huge liability. Then they don't need Joe anymore because then

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Speaker 6: they don't have to worry abou Kamala. So I'm trying

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Speaker 6: to I'm trying to mask some mass in my head,

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Speaker 6: and if it's possible, I think it would be masterful.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So let's pretend that that is a plan, or

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Speaker 2: that is an idea. What it would require on some level,

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Speaker 2: because we talked about the idea a little bit earlier

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Speaker 2: in the show, is that Kamala Harris is self aware

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Speaker 2: enough to realize that she's basically the dan Quayle of

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Speaker 2: the Democrat Party that she has with her tenure as

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Speaker 2: vice president guaranteed that she can't ever be president, and

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Speaker 2: so she would say, Okay, I'll go back to the Senate.

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Speaker 2: Probably she could serve there like Dianne Feinstein did for

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Speaker 2: the rest of her life until she wanted to decide

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Speaker 2: she didn't want to be in politics anymore. Is Kamala

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Speaker 2: self aware enough to even recognize how damaged her political

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Speaker 2: standing is, or do you think she still thinks she's

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Speaker 2: going to be the first woman to be president of

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Speaker 2: the United States.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if she's self aware, but I think

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Speaker 6: that people around her are in no uncertain terms going

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Speaker 6: to sit her down and say this, Kamala, you are

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Speaker 6: even less likable than the vegetable that's currently serving. You

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Speaker 6: cannot win we are going to get rid of Joe.

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Speaker 6: We cannot run you as president because you will lose.

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Speaker 6: You will lose to Donald Trump. It will be an

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Speaker 6: embarrassment for you. You will never be able to be

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Speaker 6: in politics or in a position of power again after

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Speaker 6: losing in such a big way. Best option is to

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Speaker 6: take this role and go out with some grace and

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Speaker 6: make it look like it was your idea, and then

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Speaker 6: you can serve in this Senate seat, you know, in

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Speaker 6: perpetuity for the rest of your life. Whatever that looks like.

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Speaker 6: I think that that's a conversation they can have with her.

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Speaker 2: Do you think the Republican race is over for who's

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Speaker 2: going to be the nominee in twenty twenty four, I've

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Speaker 2: just firmly.

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Speaker 6: Do I believe it's going to be Gavin Newsom?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: No, for the Republican side. Do you think Trump has

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Speaker 2: got it locked up? Like, is this thing over?

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Speaker 6: No? No, I don't think so. And I know a

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Speaker 6: lot of people think it is because I look at Poles,

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Speaker 6: but I'm looking at state by state, and you know,

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Speaker 6: I know it's going to be It would be a

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Speaker 6: big accomplishment. It's a big task for Rondo Santis. But

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Speaker 6: I don't rule him out yet, and I do believe

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Speaker 6: he's doing better in Iowa then the polls would suggest,

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Speaker 6: and I think state by state it's going to be

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Speaker 6: very interesting to see how well he does, especially because

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Speaker 6: you know the Trump indictments and the mugshot, they're waning

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Speaker 6: right now. He doesn't really have anything that's keeping him

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Speaker 6: front and center. So I think that policy is going

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Speaker 6: to take over and elect a bill take over. So

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Speaker 6: I think this is still definitely a possibility. It's going

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Speaker 6: to be a hard road, but I don't rule out

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Speaker 6: Ronda Santas as of now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, who's the Democrat going.

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Speaker 6: To be new some one hundred percent? I just I'm

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Speaker 6: I'm holding to that conviction. There's no reason for him

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Speaker 6: to be doing what he's doing. He's already running a

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Speaker 6: shadow campaign, and I when he says over and over

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Speaker 6: again he's not going to run, what he means is

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Speaker 6: I'm not going to challenge Joe. It's not going to

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Speaker 6: be a challenge. It's going to be an installment. I've

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Speaker 6: held that for months now and I'm not backing away

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Speaker 6: from it.

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Speaker 2: Have you been We're talking to Tommy Larran. By the way,

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Speaker 2: I encourage you to go check out her OutKick show.

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Speaker 2: She kills it every single day it's streams. You can

866
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Speaker 2: also see her quite frequently on Fox News as well.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a strong.

868
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Speaker 2: Take on Taylor Swift and Travis Kelcey? For everybody out

869
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 2: there who's like, oh my god, why would you ask

870
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 2: about this? It remains probably the number one story of

871
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 2: the week. Taylor Swift is going to New York City.

872
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 2: It's technically New Jersey, but to watch the Chiefs play

873
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 2: against the Jets this weekend. If you thought you saw

874
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 2: her a lot last weekend, her being in the New

875
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 2: York area is going to put it on steroids. What's

876
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 2: your take on this relationship? And do you who do

877
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 2: you find less likable in this relationship? Do you find

878
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Speaker 2: them both likable? How would you assess?

879
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Speaker 6: I find them most likable. I don't buy this relationship

880
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 6: for a second though. I don't buy that it's a

881
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,720
Speaker 6: real thing. I mean, when you look at the footage

882
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 6: of them, they look so awkward. It looks really stage

883
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Speaker 6: to me. I think that he's a big fan. I

884
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 6: think that she wants to date a man that's not

885
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 6: wearing skinny jeans and doesn't cry, So I think that

886
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 6: she's giving this a go because it's so foreign to

887
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Speaker 6: her and it excites her to be with like a

888
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 6: man that's manly, or you know, at least more manly

889
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 6: than what she's used to. And I think that it

890
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 6: excites him that, you know, he could say he's dating

891
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 6: Taylor Swift. That's a good story to have, but I

892
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 6: don't think it's a real relationship. I do think though,

893
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Speaker 6: if it's stimulating the economy, as Taylor Swift has done,

894
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Speaker 6: I'm all for it. And you know, I like a

895
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Speaker 6: little Midwest stimulation too. If Kansas City he's getting a

896
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 6: little more attention because of Taylor Swift, that's okay with me.

897
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Speaker 6: Let's let it play out as long as it can.

898
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Speaker 1: Okay, So what about as the girl here?

899
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Speaker 2: The reason I think it's super weird and I don't

900
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Speaker 2: buy into it is I think it's way too over

901
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 2: eager to be sitting next to Travis Kelsey's mom in

902
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Speaker 2: public like this, not only for that game where you

903
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 2: know the cameras are going to be on you, but

904
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Speaker 2: also then to go to New York City and continue

905
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Speaker 2: to sit next.

906
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Speaker 1: To the mom.

907
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Speaker 2: I know you've dated guys off and on. For me,

908
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Speaker 2: introducing a girl to my mom would be something I

909
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Speaker 2: wouldn't want to do unless I had been dating somebody

910
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 2: for a fairly significant amount of time. Does it seem

911
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 2: way over eager to you that she's in the mom's suite,

912
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 2: sitting next to mom and they've dated for like, you know,

913
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Speaker 2: a few weeks.

914
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Speaker 6: That's why I don't buy that this thing is real.

915
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 6: So it seems much more like a mutually beneficial French.

916
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Speaker 6: I don't buy that this is like some romantic connection,

917
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Speaker 6: that they're actually boyfriend and girlfriend. I think they've gone

918
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Speaker 6: out a couple of times. I think it's fun for them,

919
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 6: it's intriguing. But no, I think that in her in

920
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,280
Speaker 6: that suite, I mean, I'm glad she looked so excited.

921
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Speaker 6: I wouldn't have taken her as somebody that knows what's

922
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 6: going on enough to cheer for things. I think she

923
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 6: looked around and waited for everybody else to cheer. That's

924
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 6: the impression that I got. Not saying that I wouldn't

925
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Speaker 6: be the same way, but I just don't. I don't

926
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Speaker 6: buy any of this. I think this is gonna peeter

927
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 6: out in a couple of weeks. But if it can

928
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 6: sell some jerseys and it can get some Swifties excited

929
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 6: about football. That's okay with me. I think we just

930
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 6: we let it ride and we enjoy it because there's

931
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 6: a lot of horrible things going on in the world.

932
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 6: So I guess if we can just put on the

933
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Speaker 6: rose colored glasses and talk about Taylor Swift, maybe that's

934
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Speaker 6: good for everybody's sanity.

935
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Speaker 2: Big news today, you went to UNLV. I don't know

936
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Speaker 2: how much attention you paid. I think the Tupac shooting

937
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 2: almost happened.

938
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Speaker 1: Before you were born. I think you were like three

939
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Speaker 1: years old when.

940
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,720
Speaker 2: It happened, but I bet it was still talked about

941
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 2: some in Las Vegas because it was a big unsolved murder.

942
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: Do you think they actually caught Tupac's killer?

943
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Speaker 5: Uh, that would be.

944
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Speaker 6: Really exciting if that were the case. I mean, I

945
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 6: love some true crime. I'm not sure. I couldn't speak

946
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Speaker 6: to the validity of that, but I will tell you,

947
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 6: living in Las Vegas for many years, we knew that

948
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 6: the gas station, and it was actually pretty close to UNLV,

949
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 6: so it's always been, you know, a part of Vegas culture,

950
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 6: as many things are, so I think, I think, again,

951
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 6: very interesting. I couldn't tell you the validity of it

952
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 6: or if they really did it, but another great news

953
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 6: story to distract from all the horrible things that are

954
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 6: happening through our country.

955
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 2: Okay, last question for you as we roll into the weekend.

956
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 2: You don't You've been one of the foremost people in

957
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 2: saying Joe Biden's not gonna run. Lay out how it

958
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,760
Speaker 2: happens for us. Call your shot here on the biggest

959
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 2: radio show in the country. We will flag it. If

960
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 2: you're right, you get to come back on and take

961
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 2: a victory lap.

962
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: I am. I agree with you.

963
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 2: Buck Is on the other side, we have a big

964
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 2: steak bet over this. Buck thinks that Biden is going

965
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 2: to be the nominee. If he's not going to be

966
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 2: the nominee, how does he step down? What is the

967
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 2: process by which Biden says, Hey, I'm not running in

968
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 2: twenty four in your mind?

969
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Speaker 6: Well, I think it's just it's the age thing. I

970
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 6: think that they convince him, Hey, things are getting really

971
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 6: bad with his engagement in query. Things are looking really

972
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 6: bad for you. You can't even take the regular stairs.

973
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,879
Speaker 6: You stumble on the kiddie ones. I think they convince him, Hey,

974
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 6: you just say you want to spend more time with

975
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 6: your family. You're a loving father and grandfather, and you're

976
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 6: going to step aside. And then it's oh, you know,

977
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 6: you're going to step aside and make way for Kamala.

978
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 6: And then that's when Kamala says, oh, you know, I've

979
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 6: decided to go back to the Senate because I'm more

980
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 6: effective in California fighting for the people. I don't want

981
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 6: to be vice president. And then I think, you see

982
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 6: Gavin Newsom just charge in to save the day, and

983
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 6: it's going to be Oh, me, I didn't know that.

984
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 6: You know, if I have to, I'll step up, and

985
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 6: I will. My patriotic duty will be fulfilled. So I

986
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 6: think that's how it happens. It's got to happen soon.

987
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,240
Speaker 6: But I said before I thought by Halloween. I'm holding

988
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 6: onto that the holiday season. I'm thinking before Thanksgiving, we're

989
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 6: going to see this start to take shape.

990
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: Tommy, good luck on the travel.

991
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 2: I just saw a video of ankle deep water at

992
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 2: LaGuardia Airport in New York City. I'm not sure if

993
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 2: you're going to be able to get out or not,

994
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 2: but good luck for people out there who are interested

995
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 2: in watching your show and orre following you.

996
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: How would you tell people to do that?

997
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 6: All of our social media at Tommy Laren and then

998
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 6: of course OutKick dot com. Tommy Laren is fearless and

999
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 6: I always appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Clay good stuff.

1001
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 2: She is a rockstar. Thanks Tommy, good luck on the travel.

1002
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Speaker 2: If you don't follow Tommy, I think and you like

1003
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 2: this show, I think you would really really like what

1004
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 2: Tommy puts out there on a day to day basis.

1005
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 2: She's fearless and there are so many people out there

1006
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 2: that are terrified to say what they actually think. I

1007
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:05,280
Speaker 2: met Tommy years ago going on her show, and fearlessness

1008
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 2: is so rare uh that I just I find it

1009
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 2: to be eternally successful because what people really want is

1010
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 2: authenticity and true opinions, and you get them so rarely.

1011
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: She does a great job of putting them out there

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00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: every day.

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Speaker 2: We'll take your calls to close out the Friday edition

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