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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Welcome to this show. Always fun to talk

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Speaker 1: Texans football, especially.

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Speaker 2: On Thursday nights.

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Speaker 1: That's because we have the General John McClain joining us,

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Speaker 1: Mark Vandermere and John Harris with you with John McClain, General,

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Speaker 1: Good evening.

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Speaker 2: How you doing tonight.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great, and I'm curious how you're doing. You're

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Speaker 3: becoming a world famous author with your first book. I tweeted,

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Speaker 3: retweeted you when I saw it out there, so tell

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Speaker 3: us about it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, John. I'm not world famous. This is

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Speaker 1: just will be a fun project.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: It's you know, giving back sounds so phony, but I

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Speaker 1: wanted to write it for young people especially, but for

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Speaker 1: anybody who's stuck in a job they don't like. Now,

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Speaker 1: not everybody can get out of a job they don't like,

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Speaker 1: but young people have the unique opportunity to, you know,

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Speaker 1: do things and be geographically flexible, as I like to

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Speaker 1: call and chase after their dream job.

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Speaker 2: And how did I said?

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Speaker 1: I got these two questions more than any other throughout

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Speaker 1: my career. How did I know what I wanted to do?

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Speaker 1: How did I go about doing it? And how did

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Speaker 1: I know? I reverse engineered that? I explained that in

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Speaker 1: the book. How did I go about doing it? All

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Speaker 1: the stories of me scoring amazing jobs and other people

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Speaker 1: scoring amazing jobs, So there's a lot, a lot of

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Speaker 1: stuff goes on. I mean, you've multitasked your whole career.

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Speaker 1: John Harris flipped his career from being an accountant, which

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Speaker 1: is so exciting. Sorry Johnny, and got into football broadcasting.

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Speaker 4: So I made a lot of more money. I bet

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Speaker 4: it is an accountant.

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Speaker 5: No, I did not, actually, but that is a nasty

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Speaker 5: little secret. They didn't pay Jack really didn't pay anything.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I was. I was happy to get out

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Speaker 5: of there and to be honest with you, So yeah,

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Speaker 5: I went to you got a.

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Speaker 3: Brown education and Ivy League education, you're an accountant and

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Speaker 3: you don't make any money.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm okay with that. The book is called football.

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Speaker 1: The book is called Go Get Your Dream Job. Available

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Speaker 1: on Amazon. That's all I'll say for right now. But

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Speaker 1: I appreciate everybody for reaching out about this.

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Speaker 5: Congratulations. And Mark's not the only one of the book.

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Speaker 5: I've had one out there for a little wild Amazon

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Speaker 5: as well. Yes, you'll have yours. By the way, the

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Speaker 5: uh wait times times on our side, it's basically a

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Speaker 5: collection in some sense of how coaches have handled and

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Speaker 5: mishandled the end of games at both college and the

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Speaker 5: professional level, and just kind of give my thoughts on

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Speaker 5: the way things kind of go.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 5: Some of it is now antiquated because of what they're

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Speaker 5: doing in college with a two minute warning turning into

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Speaker 5: the NFL, but still fun book to read. So it's

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Speaker 5: on Amazon times on times on our side.

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Speaker 3: So your books, I encourage people to check out both

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Speaker 3: of your books. And Mark, do you have it in

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Speaker 3: your book how you came to be working for the Texans.

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Speaker 3: I'm assuming you don't, so I'm going to tell the story. Okay,

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Speaker 3: go ahead. Long time Oilers uh media relations director.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: He was living in LA and where he's still has

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Speaker 3: a company called Athlete and Event Sports Public Relations. And

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Speaker 3: I introduced him to Bob McNair because I got tired

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Speaker 3: so by by her Chip he worked with Steve Patterson.

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Speaker 4: And one of the.

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Speaker 3: Things that Chip they put him in find us some

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Speaker 3: there were several people that they were interested in and

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Speaker 3: He told me no offense. I didn't pay attention to

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Speaker 3: I didn't hear anything about it till later, until you

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Speaker 1: And it's this is one job where I actually got

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Speaker 1: Other jobs I've gotten of it, I've had to chase

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Speaker 1: them down with a vengeance massive marketing campaigns. That's what

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Speaker 1: I'm really writing about, chasing down the Miami job, chasing

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Speaker 2: So that's what it's all about.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's enough about my book, except for the next

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Speaker 1: forty five minutes also about my book, just kidding, all right, General,

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Speaker 1: mini camp and training camp. And as opposed to certain viduals,

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Speaker 1: I mean somebody in New York will get to him

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Speaker 1: in just a moment, but general, we are in the

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Speaker 1: because the prospects are as good as we've ever seen

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Speaker 4: Now, people are more fired up.

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Speaker 3: Of course, everybody nationally loves the Texans, and that's great

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Speaker 3: the schedule and quarterbacks. But that's a different story. It's

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Speaker 4: It was CJ.

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Speaker 3: I'll be shocked at Kamari Lassener's not starting that first

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Speaker 3: But on defense, you know, I'm writing a story right

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Speaker 3: now for Houston Texans dot Com. Should be posted later

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Speaker 3: today and tomorrow about the defensive line. You don't see

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Speaker 3: teams set franchise records for sacks and improved from thirty

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Speaker 3: and they made Sheldon Rankins a good offer two or

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Speaker 3: Khlil Davis get a lot of playing time because he

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Speaker 3: So I'm writing that, and then next week I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: have one. The difference for Damico Ryans at this point now,

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Speaker 3: he explained why.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm ask you guys a question.

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Speaker 5: Both of y'all all right, if you've got to answer

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Speaker 5: that now next week you're gonna hear in the Lab

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Speaker 5: podcast with Drew Doerty myself and we got really in

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Speaker 5: the lab with this one.

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Speaker 2: We got real geeky.

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Speaker 5: We each picked two players that are retired in their

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna do two for each. I'm just gonna

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Speaker 5: You get one player each, a retired player that you

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Speaker 5: and Drew and I have done this before. We weren't

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Speaker 5: a little bit more difficult, I guess. But you each

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Speaker 5: But you got to pick that player and put him

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Speaker 3: Right off the badge, you'd say Earl Campbell, But Bobby

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Speaker 3: Earl does not fit the stem that Bobby runs. Earl

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Speaker 3: he's a guard. So I'm going to say, based on

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Speaker 3: this team going into this season, I would take Ray

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Speaker 3: Childress the consummate for to three defensive tackle.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Mark Wow.

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Speaker 1: I still think that if you gave Bobby Slowick you

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Speaker 1: Beam Earl back from the seventies, he would find a

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Speaker 3: I think Eddie George would be a nice fit Bobby's offense.

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Speaker 2: This is his offense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know you have Joe Mixon, but Joe Mixon.

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Speaker 2: So that's it, all right. I've got something to ask

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Speaker 4: Are you go with Arian?

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Speaker 4: Why not? He's my right when I I have thought

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Speaker 1: Mean he didn't have as many yards as that he George.

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Speaker 1: Of course the career cut short, but my gosh, he put.

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Speaker 4: Up something that those dinosaur quotes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and him speaking pterodactyl as we speaking in you know,

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Speaker 5: Yeah. The the two that you picked were considered. One

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Speaker 4: He told you all my column, Well.

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Speaker 2: You general you mentioned mine one of mine. J. J. Watt. Okay.

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Speaker 5: I went with Watt because I figured you can play

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Speaker 2: Just working them.

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Speaker 5: My other one was, you guys talked about it inter

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Speaker 5: I went with Wade Smith because I felt like with Wade,

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Speaker 2: So with Wade, I went with Wade Smith, Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Widest offensive lineman in the history, because he went to

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Speaker 5: I just also to left guard is that position, and

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Speaker 1: all know that now. Some of the losses Steven Nelson,

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Speaker 1: those are the biggest ones, right, Johnny, I know there

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Speaker 4: I don't consider them losses. If they let people go,

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Speaker 4: I know, I know. I'm just saying not to bring

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Speaker 1: They're not back for whatever reason, they're not back. Now

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Speaker 2: Let's start with you in general?

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Speaker 3: that won't surprise me at all if when somebody gets

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Speaker 5: May be better, Johnny, I think if there's I don't

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Speaker 5: Fatakasi's massive. They've got fifteen twenty pounds on Sheldon and Malik,

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Speaker 2: Go use your eyes and watch him.

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Speaker 3: If you look at the defense, the interior, and maybe

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Speaker 3: Okay, take one player each who didn't do much last year,

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Speaker 1: basically comes out of nowhere, nobody like him. Johnny, I'll

437
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Speaker 1: let you go first. I've got to be ready emotionally

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Speaker 1: for this answer.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's almost kind of the question I was going

440
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Speaker 5: to ask, and I asked Mark this the other day,

441
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Speaker 5: kind of the most important non sense starters on this

442
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Speaker 5: particular team, because you know, look, we know for the

443
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Speaker 5: most part what the starters are going to be. I

444
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Speaker 5: think I'm gonna take a wild hair in this one,

445
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Speaker 5: and it all comes down really to whether he's healthy

446
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Speaker 5: or not, because he just hasn't stayed healthy his first

447
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Speaker 5: two years. But when he is on the field healthy,

448
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 5: he can be your Wyan line blocker and STV in Quatoriano.

449
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Speaker 5: But he just can't stay healthy, Johnn. That's the only

450
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,440
Speaker 5: thing is he's played. I mean hasn't played a ton

451
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Speaker 5: of games. He's probably played not even a full season

452
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Speaker 5: of games over his first two years. But but if

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Speaker 5: Quatoriano can stay healthy consistently, we all talk about all

454
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Speaker 5: the different tight ends or in that group, Quatoriano's the

455
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Speaker 5: one who can block or should be able to block.

456
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Speaker 5: And for that reason, I think he's got an opportunity

457
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Speaker 5: to be part of a boots keeper package. Like we

458
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Speaker 5: saw in Atlanta. He caught a little keeper. You know,

459
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Speaker 5: he's dragging across the formation. CJ found him on the

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Speaker 5: bootleg wide open. But he's got to go up and

461
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Speaker 5: make a catch, stay on his feet, make a big

462
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Speaker 5: run and he.

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Speaker 2: Can be a problem.

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Speaker 5: As we saw the last game against Indianapolis in twenty

465
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Speaker 5: twenty two, he had a great game catching football. I

466
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Speaker 5: think team Toriano could be kind of a guy that

467
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Speaker 5: pops out of nowhere. But he's gotta get healthy. Yeah

468
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Speaker 5: that's good. That's a good one.

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Speaker 1: Now, I could pick guys for days who weren't with

470
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Speaker 1: the team last year, but I'll give you a guy

471
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Speaker 1: who joined the team during the season, and I think

472
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Speaker 1: during the preseason he'll be very noticed. And that's JJ

473
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Speaker 1: Taylor the running back. Because he's got tree trunk legs, speed.

474
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Speaker 1: He'll be seen in that third and fourth quarter block

475
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Speaker 1: of these preseason games. You've got four of them. He's

476
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Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of carries. I think he'll be

477
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Speaker 1: your leading rusher in the preseason. And maybe that's a

478
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Speaker 1: dubious honor to be mister August, but maybe it does

479
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Speaker 1: well for him because maybe they're injuries or another team

480
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Speaker 1: if he doesn't stick around here.

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Speaker 2: Whatever.

482
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Speaker 1: JJ Taylor is my guy early on, and I'm about

483
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Speaker 1: keeping it in the day. You guys are already projecting

484
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Speaker 1: into September. I'm just focusing on August. The next game up, Baby,

485
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Speaker 1: I'm about the moment. Dimiko's gonna love this. Yeah he is, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I got one more four.

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Speaker 3: He was the guy last year that was the last pick,

488
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Speaker 3: the corner or safety.

489
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Speaker 2: Oh, Brandon Hill, yeah, brand Hill.

490
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Brandon Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I've heard that the coaches like him, and so he

492
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Speaker 3: you know, he's a guy. There's a crowded a crowded secondary.

493
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Speaker 3: But if a guy makes some plays and impresses him

494
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Speaker 3: in all in the training camp. There's a guy they

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Speaker 3: drafted him for a reason, and this is his chance

496
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Speaker 3: to step up. And of course he'd have to play

497
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Speaker 3: special teams if indeed he were to make the fifty

498
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Speaker 3: three general.

499
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Speaker 2: What do you have going on on Houston Texans dot com.

500
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Speaker 3: I'm working now on that defensive line story we talked

501
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 3: about earlier, about making three changes and starting lineup and

502
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 3: having a chance to be even better against the run

503
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Speaker 3: and the past. You know, we all talk about the

504
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Speaker 3: Neil hundred and sixteen al sacks, but he led the

505
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Speaker 3: NFL tackles for loss, which means he plays the run

506
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Speaker 3: very well.

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Speaker 4: Jonathan Gnhard did as well.

508
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Speaker 3: And I think Will Anderson's gonna have a big time

509
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Speaker 3: breakout year and become a double figure.

510
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Speaker 4: SAT guy every year. And with Una over there.

511
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Speaker 3: And Artree rushing from the inside in a four man front,

512
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Speaker 3: how are they you can't double both ends? That's gonna

513
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Speaker 3: be a great thing to watch, a lot of three

514
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Speaker 3: step drops. Then I'm gonna do THO one on Dimiko

515
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Speaker 3: a year later. How much more comfortable he is and

516
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Speaker 3: how much more he knows about being a head coach.

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Speaker 2: Love it General, thanks so much for the time, as always.

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Speaker 3: My pleasure, guys, Thank you very much, and good luck

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Speaker 3: with the book sales.

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Speaker 2: Thank you General. Coming up, Who's Better?

521
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Speaker 1: We've got two Texans in a dog fight they don't

522
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Speaker 1: even know about a Trevor Lawrence question because Johnny loves

523
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Speaker 1: them so much. And more, who's got a better career? Questioning?

524
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Speaker 1: Because that was so popular the other night. It's Texans Radio.

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Speaker 1: Moving right along here on Texans Radio, Mark vandermir and

526
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: John Harris with you. Let's get to a game that

527
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: everybody knows so well, and if they don't, it's their problem,

528
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Speaker 1: but we're gonna do it right now.

529
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Speaker 2: It's called Who's Better? Of course, all right, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Two Texans pitted against each other and they didn't even

531
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Speaker 1: know it, but they are. For the purposes of this

532
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Speaker 1: exercize right here. Who's better? Better chance to get to

533
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Speaker 1: one thousand yards on the season, different kinds of yards,

534
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Speaker 1: but one thousand yards Joe Mixon or Nico Collins. Better

535
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Speaker 1: chance to get to one thousand yards? Joe Mixon or

536
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Speaker 1: Nico Collins. Nico at thirteen hundred nearly last year, Joe

537
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Speaker 1: Mixon has nearly been a thousand yard machine in his career.

538
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Speaker 1: But we all know Nico's got to share the ball,

539
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Speaker 1: so to speak, with the other receivers. Mixon might have

540
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Speaker 1: to as well with the other backs. How does that

541
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Speaker 1: all go down? We don't know. What do you think, Johnny?

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Speaker 5: Well, I would I would cheat because I would say

543
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Speaker 5: Joe Mixon immediately because he'll get a thousand receiving and rushing.

544
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Speaker 2: But you're talking rushing out Riison. Thank you for helping

545
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Speaker 2: me out there.

546
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Speaker 5: Yes, okay, just making sure, all right, I'm still gonna

547
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Speaker 5: go mixing. I think Joe's gonna get to one thousand.

548
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Speaker 5: I think Nico gets to one thousand and two. Look

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Speaker 5: in a seventeen game season. Yeah, if you do the

550
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Speaker 5: math on a thousand, it's roughly under just under six

551
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 5: the yards per game?

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Speaker 2: Is that right?

553
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 4: My mouth?

554
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Speaker 5: Seventeen game you're talking about just right at sixty yards

555
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 5: a game, And I feel like both of them can

556
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Speaker 5: get there now, Nico. Last year, there were a couple

557
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Speaker 5: of games early on in the season where Nico would

558
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 5: he'd have a big game, have a couple of big

559
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Speaker 5: games in a row, and then there'd be one where

560
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 5: you know, three catches forty yards something like that. But

561
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Speaker 5: either way, he had those big ones that made up

562
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Speaker 5: for it. But I just feel like getting to one

563
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 5: thousand yards rushing receiving nowadays not what it used to be,

564
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Speaker 5: obviously because you've brought in a seventeenth game. But I

565
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 5: think Joe is gonna be such a big factor in this.

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Speaker 5: I think in talking with Drew On in the lab,

567
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Speaker 5: just talking about you know, Kenny Green, talking about Kendrick

568
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 5: Green talking about the left guard position, I just think

569
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Speaker 5: this offense is going to be that much better off

570
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Speaker 5: because they're gonna have the offensive lines. You know, the

571
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Speaker 5: pieces are gonna fall back into place. Juice moves back

572
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Speaker 5: over to center the way I see it, the way

573
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Speaker 5: we see Titus to.

574
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Speaker 2: Move back out to the right tackle.

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Speaker 5: You know, Shack's the right guard, Juice will step back

576
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Speaker 5: in at center, Larry means that left tackle, and then

577
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 5: you got this competition for left guard. And I think

578
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Speaker 5: that competition will make that offense line that much better.

579
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Speaker 5: But also I think with Mixing, he's that much more

580
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 5: decisive where he's gonna run. He sees it and he

581
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Speaker 5: goes he's going a million miles an hour.

582
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Speaker 2: He's not. He's not one two three where should I go?

583
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 5: He is one, two and gone, and that's exactly what

584
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 5: you got to have in this own offense. He might

585
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 5: even be a little bit too impatient in certain respects,

586
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 5: kind of beating a blocks there. But I said this

587
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Speaker 5: a number of times early in the season. I felt

588
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 5: like the blocks weren't perfect right, but the running backs

589
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 5: could have made the blocking right a little bit more

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Speaker 5: often than it did.

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Speaker 2: I think Mixing will do that. So I'm going with

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Speaker 2: Joe in large.

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Speaker 5: Part because and then getting to that number of one

594
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 5: thousand is a huge deal. But I think he's gonna

595
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Speaker 5: be the focus of the passing game. I wanted he

596
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 5: go to be the folks to pass the game. But Mark,

597
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 5: you know, Tank, Digs, Schultz, Jordan for a lot of

598
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Speaker 5: guys that are gonna get their touches in the passing game.

599
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Speaker 5: And that might that might make Nico's year not as

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Speaker 5: good as it was last year, but it's gonna make

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Speaker 5: this over off and.

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Speaker 2: So much better.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So your choice is Mixing's rushing, Mixers rushing, you're

604
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Speaker 1: likely to happen. No, this is who's better, better chance anyway,

605
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: that better change just repackaged?

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Speaker 2: All right? Who's better? Are you ready for this week's

607
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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence question. This is a good one. You asking me.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna freak out about this one. Who's better Trevor Lawrence?

609
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Speaker 1: Or wait for it and be patient. Derek Carr. Hear

610
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Speaker 1: me out, hear me out, all right, Derek Carr, the

611
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: all time leading passer in Oakland Raiders Vegas Raiders history.

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Speaker 1: Last year, I'm just gonna give you last year's cars. Okay,

613
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Speaker 1: last year Lawrence twenty one touchdowns, fourteen picks. Last year

614
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Speaker 1: Derek Carr twenty five touchdowns, eight picks. I mean, Lawrence

615
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Speaker 1: through some interceptions last year, fourteen of them.

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Speaker 2: Ye, are you ready for quarterback rating?

617
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Speaker 1: That all important stat which is not that important, but

618
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Speaker 1: it means something. Derek Carr ninety seven to seven Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: Let me see, I gotta go way down here to

620
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Speaker 1: eighty eight point five all right, yards per game?

621
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Speaker 2: Lawrence hasn't beat but the turnovers. I know.

622
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Speaker 1: Derek Carr feels like a journeyman. He's not really a

623
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Speaker 1: journeyman though. Now he's with the Saints, and he had

624
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Speaker 1: a better year than Lawrence statistically anyway, didn't have the

625
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: kind of season he was looking for either, But who's better, Johnny.

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Speaker 5: I mean, if I gotta win one game right now,

627
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Speaker 5: I might lean Carr. WHOA, just because I feel like

628
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 5: I feel like people will pooh pooh Derek Carr. And

629
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Speaker 5: that's why I know you presented the case that you did.

630
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 5: I remember sitting in this room. This is going into

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty one, I think.

632
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Speaker 2: I can't remember.

633
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 5: I think it's going into twenty twenty one, and our

634
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 5: guy Sudds was in here and we were having a

635
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 5: conversation about, you know, if you could go get a quarterback,

636
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Speaker 5: if you could do it this offseason, and what would

637
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 5: you do.

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00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 2: And I thought about a few quarterbacks.

639
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 5: Baker Mayfield came to mind, Derek Carr came to mind,

640
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 5: because like who is available? Then, yeah, that's the way

641
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 5: we're thinking about it. And so I thought, you know,

642
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 5: Derek Carr, I think would be a be a solid piece.

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00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 5: I don't know if he gets you all the way

644
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 5: where you want to go, but I think he's a

645
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 5: solid piece. Now, overall, I'm gonna take Trevor. I've always

646
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 5: believed in Trevor. I'm I'm worried that with some of

647
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 5: the additions, with the offensive line being a little bit

648
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 5: better with the Jags.

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Speaker 2: ETN still with the Jags, God dang it. Etn is

650
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 2: the one who scares me the most.

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Speaker 5: Trevor can find some of that magic, and I worry

652
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 5: about that with the Jags, that he does find some

653
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 5: of that. But he's got to be more accurate football.

654
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 5: He's got to be tougher in crunch time, and they

655
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 5: got to keep him healthy.

656
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: But your question reminds me of this. I'm I'm gonna

657
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 2: read you something. You're ready for this?

658
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 5: Yeh last fifty starts two starting quarterbacks in the NFL.

659
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fifty.

660
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 5: Last fifty record Quarterback A thirty six and fourteen, quarterback

661
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 5: B thirty three and seventeen. Pretty close passing touchdowns one

662
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 5: hundred and five across the board both wow. Interceptions thirty

663
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 5: nine for the guy on A for quarterback A, thirty

664
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 5: eight for quarterback B.

665
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 2: So we're dead, even dead even.

666
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 5: Passer rating ninety eight point nine for quarterback A, one

667
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 5: hundred and one point three for quarterback B. Okay yards

668
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 5: per a tempt same seven point five Okay. Completion percentage

669
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 5: quarterback A sixty six point eight. Pretty good, Quarterback B

670
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 5: sixty eight point four percent.

671
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: That's more but not much more. But that's impressive to

672
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: go sixty eight.

673
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 5: So quarterback A has three more wins m h, same

674
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 5: number passing touchdowns, one interception, more, lower passer rating, same

675
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 5: yards per attempt, lower completion percentage. Quarterback A is tell

676
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 5: me Patrick Mahomes, Oh boy, Quarterback B is who Dak Prescott?

677
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Yeah, the last fifty.

678
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 5: Starts, it just goes to being point being. You can

679
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 5: compare a lot of different stats. Yeah, the ones that

680
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 5: they don't have is playoff victories, which would be kind

681
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 5: of the bottom but not obviously you.

682
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: Just spelled it out. The wins are relatively equal.

683
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, relatively even.

684
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 5: There's there's three game difference over fifty starts over fifty

685
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 5: or fifty starts, last fifty starts.

686
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: But it's the clutch.

687
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 5: It's the clutch gene that Home seems to have in

688
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 5: the postseason.

689
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 2: You have to go get a touchdown.

690
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 5: He's gonna go he is gonna go get one, and

691
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 5: that's what that's what he does. To that end, I

692
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 5: think that Car's numbers probably project a little bit better,

693
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 5: but I'm still going with Trevor. I still think that

694
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 5: there's there's some uh, there's some sand in Lawrence's suit.

695
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 2: I agree.

696
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: I think that Lawrence's upside is there the potential, So

697
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: you take the risk on that. You know who car

698
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: is and you know steady as she goes whatever. I mean,

699
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: we just gave it the numbers. But with Lawrence, you

700
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: feel like he has not hit the ceiling right, so

701
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: that where he's ore there, So let's just see if

702
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: he can get to it. And I hope he doesn't.

703
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: All right, continuing with who's better? As you all know

704
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: or maybe you don't. The Patriots had their Hall of

705
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: Fame ceremony, right and they Brady went in and he said.

706
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 2: It's not you, it's not me, it's both of us. Bill.

707
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 2: He said that in front of the fans.

708
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: Well, it brings to mind what is the all time

709
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: best franchise in the history of this sport as we

710
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: know it? Because the Patriots have six Super Bowls and

711
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers have six Super Bowls? Right, and there

712
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: are other teams that are right up there. I mean,

713
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers have won five Super Bowl wins

714
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: and we don't have to go through all of them.

715
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: The Cowboys have five Super Bowl wins. But Johnny, I'm

716
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: just gonna give you this, Who's better the Pittsburgh Steelers

717
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 1: or the New England Patriots franchise history?

718
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 5: Now, growing up as a child of the seventies, it

719
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 5: feels like it's a no brainer.

720
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 2: It's the Steelers.

721
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 5: But the Steelers prior to their run starting really in

722
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 5: the midies seventy two, when they went to the playoffs

723
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 5: for the first time, nothing, they were guard They were

724
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 5: hot garbage.

725
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 2: Yep, hot garbage.

726
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 5: Now Patriots before Brady took over, they weren't garbage. They

727
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 5: weren't garbage. They had a couple of runs they did.

728
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: I would say more than a couple because some of

729
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: the runs they had are things that you'll look to

730
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: in the recent era of Pittsburgh Steelers football and say, hey,

731
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: playoff appearance here and there, non losing seasons Patriots put

732
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: together to that.

733
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think with the Steelers, once they got to

734
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 5: the playoffs in seventy two, then they kept it at

735
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 5: volume eight for a long time.

736
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 2: Now, there were a couple of years where they were

737
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 2: a year or so where they dropped in very few,

738
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 2: very few cases. Should I have said Super Bowl era

739
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: who's the better? For Yeah?

740
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 5: I mean, at that point, it's it's hard not to

741
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 5: say the Steelers, But what have the Steelers done in

742
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 5: the last fifteen years? Not much, not much at all.

743
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 5: And obviously the Patriots have won a bunch. Now the Patriots,

744
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 5: you know, obviously haven't won one in since twenty eighteen.

745
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 5: But that's a twenty year run. Man, that is just

746
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 5: so good, and it covers the free agency years, and

747
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 5: that to me is I weighed a little bit more

748
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 5: because in the seventies the Steelers drafted incredibly well.

749
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 2: They were unbelievable when it came to.

750
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 5: The draft, but they were going to keep all those

751
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 5: guys because that's the way the NFL was back then.

752
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 2: There's no free agency.

753
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 5: Now you got all this player movement, and yet you

754
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 5: still had the Patriots going to the playoffs, going to

755
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 5: champions I think the more and more we're removed from

756
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 5: Brady Belichick, my guess is we'll appreciate the Patriots more.

757
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,479
Speaker 5: I'm already there. I appreciate the Patriots more. I'm gonna

758
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 5: go Patriots over Steelers in large part because the Steelers

759
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 5: just in the last fifteen years, they've made a playoff

760
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 5: appearance here or there, but really it turned into the

761
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 5: Evil Empire up in New England, and you could look

762
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 5: at the seventy Steelers.

763
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 2: But beyond that, I don't know.

764
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 5: But with the Patriots, it started two thousand and one

765
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 5: and didn't stop till twenty nineteen.

766
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go Patriots. Okay, you'll go Patriots.

767
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: I feel like Super Bowl era it would be Steelers,

768
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: but you're right when you go deep into their history

769
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,919
Speaker 1: before that, it's not good.

770
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 2: All right, who's better? How about this?

771
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: Let's switch sports for a moment. Better franchise the Celtics

772
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: or the Lakers.

773
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 2: Oh, each one.

774
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: Now, the Celtics are about to get championship number eighteen,

775
00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: but they have seventeen each. The Lakers look in the

776
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 1: Magic Larry era. Magic won five rings, Larry won three.

777
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: We all know that they only faced each other in

778
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: the finals three times only.

779
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 2: That was epic stuff.

780
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 3: Man.

781
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 2: I feel bad for young sports fans who had not

782
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 2: lived through that. That was incredible history. That was so

783
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 2: much fun.

784
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: And those two franchises in the o's they wake up again,

785
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 1: you know, Kobe with the Lakers, obviously they're on fire.

786
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: Then the Celtics get the Big Three, they win a championship,

787
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: but it's been uh, you know, flirtation here and there

788
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: since then and appearances.

789
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 2: But they're about to get another ring. So what do

790
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 2: you think.

791
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go the way back machine to answer this

792
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 5: one because you said it. The great players on both

793
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 5: sides have been you know, the resurrection, you know, the

794
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 5: Big three in Boston, Ray Allen, Kevin Garnett, and Paul Pierce.

795
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 5: Then you know, Kobe gets it. You know, Kobe gets

796
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 5: it back. They kind of go back and forth with championships.

797
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 2: There she finally wins one without Shaq, he wins one

798
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 2: with the Shack.

799
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 5: Kobe era is not and hasn't really been matched by

800
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 5: the Celtics over that time. However, in the fifties and

801
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 5: sixties when the Lakers and the Celtics met in championships,

802
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 5: the Lakers dominated, I'm sorry, the Celtics dominated.

803
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 2: It was like eight straight or ninth straight.

804
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,919
Speaker 5: It wasn't until nineteen eighty five that the Lakers ended

805
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 5: up beating the Celtics in a World Championship finals.

806
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 2: They did it again in eighty seven.

807
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 5: That's two and I think there was one other with

808
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 5: the Kobe s three, but they had a run of

809
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,439
Speaker 5: eight or nine, the Kosi years, the havelet Check years,

810
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 5: all that. That was all the Lakers, that was all

811
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 5: the Celtics. So I'm giving the Celtics the edge for

812
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 5: that reason.

813
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 2: Okay, I got one more because we had better careers

814
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 2: the other night. Who's better? In the better career department?

815
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 1: They're different, Tom Hanks or Leo DiCaprio, Oh who's better?

816
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 2: This is tough.

817
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 1: Now, I'll give you a few of their movies just

818
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: to sort of refresh everybody's memory here. Obviously with Leo DiCaprio.

819
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: Let's just start things off with Titanic. I know there

820
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: were things before that, but it was just so massive,

821
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: and you had the beach. That kind of was a

822
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: watchable movie, even though it's not reviewed. Well, Catch Me

823
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: if you Can, Gangs of New York, that Departed.

824
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 2: Bless Me if you Can. Is a Hank's end DiCaprio Jether.

825
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 1: They overlap in that one, and you could argue Hanks

826
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: is he going downhill at that point? Hanks already because

827
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 1: they overlap, But obviously DiCaprio being younger, Wolf of Wall Street,

828
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: Django Unchanged, Unchained rather Gatsby, you know the rest of

829
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: them all right, as far as Hanks goes, My gosh,

830
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: it's amazing.

831
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 2: You know.

832
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: He has the Oscar run with Philadelphia, he has Forrest Gump,

833
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: Apollo thirteen toy story, even saving Private Ryan. I mean,

834
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 1: he goes on a run that's just outstanding. I didn't

835
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,919
Speaker 1: even mention big he got nominated for that, right, Yep.

836
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 1: He's in Catch Me if you can. He's in my

837
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: big fat Greek wedding.

838
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't know that. I don't remember that. I

839
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 2: don't remember that.

840
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:08,919
Speaker 1: All that is is Cameo Castaway obviously. So who's better

841
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: Tom Hanks or Leo DiCaprio.

842
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 5: Man, that's hard. My My initial reaction is Tom Hanks

843
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 5: all day, every day. Now, part of that is just

844
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 5: because I enjoy Hanks.

845
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 2: I think he is.

846
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 5: He's terrific in Philadelphia. I remember seeing Philadelphia. I was

847
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 5: in college, and I just thought that is one heck

848
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 5: of an acting performance. And even before that, I mean,

849
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 5: if you think back to when we first saw Hanks,

850
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 5: it was Boso and Buddies and Bachelor Party, which is

851
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 5: one of the funniest movies, and Splash.

852
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 2: You know, he has some of this. He had he

853
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 2: had a kind of as the eighties were on there

854
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:43,919
Speaker 2: were a couple and that aren't so great.

855
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 5: Big got him back, and he's playing such a different

856
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 5: care He's playing a kid, So his depth of role

857
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 5: I think is probably a little bit more than Leo. Yeah,

858
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 5: but I mean Wolf of Wall Street, what was the

859
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 5: one that was the bear that? I think, The Revenant,

860
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 5: the Revenue, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean he is just

861
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 5: a tourive force. I'm gonna go with Hanks just because

862
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 5: I've always been a Tom Hanks guy.

863
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 2: I love I love his acting.

864
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,240
Speaker 5: I just think he's I think he's tremendous in anything,

865
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,439
Speaker 5: whether it's a comedy, whether it's a drama, TA whether

866
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 5: it's drama, I think he's he's tremendous.

867
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 2: And I think Leo's good and all and a great actor.

868
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 2: But I just I've always loved.

869
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: Hanks play Howard Hughes way too early. He should be

870
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: playing him now, not in two thousand and four.

871
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 2: I'm going Hanks, I'm with you. I'm going to talk.

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Speaker 2: It's not I mean, they're both awesome. It's not like

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Speaker 2: it's a blowout.

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Speaker 1: All Right, that's it for this segment coming up NFL,

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Speaker 1: Let's go around the league stuff that's happening the Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers opinions, and something happening in college football will happen

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. It's coming up here on Texans Radio

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Speaker 1: Quickie segment on the Way out here tonight Texans Radio,

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Speaker 1: Mark VanderMeer and John Harris. Thank you to the General

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Speaker 1: John McClain for being on earlier. Johnny, Aaron Rodgers go.

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Speaker 2: It's so hard to figure out what's going on. I really,

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Speaker 2: I really don't care.

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Speaker 5: But he said in January, Hey, we've got to leave

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Speaker 5: all the nonsense. The nonsense has to leave this building.

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Speaker 5: And here we are in mini camp and the nonsense

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Speaker 5: has come back to the building. But the guy that

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Speaker 5: said it should be gone, you're.

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Speaker 2: On the back page of the New York tabloids. And

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Speaker 2: that's not good. It's not good at all. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: not good at all. Come on, Aaron, be better. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't like it for them, but I love it

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Speaker 2: for everybody else. And we'll see how it plays out.

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Speaker 1: Texans Jets October thirty first at the medallands be there

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Speaker 1: or be listening.

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Speaker 2: We will have it for you, all right.

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Speaker 1: The Big Twelve toying with having a league sponsor, so

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Speaker 1: the blank Big Twelve wouldn't that be amazing?

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Speaker 2: Maybe? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You had the Barkleys Premier League back in the day

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Speaker 1: sponsor the entire Premier League. I think you'll see more

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Speaker 1: of this kind of thing. I don't know about the

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Speaker 1: NFL dabbling in it. Could you imagine naming the conferences

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Speaker 1: the Coca Cola AFC and the Texans are looking to

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Speaker 1: win the Coca Cola AFC Championship.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that will not be a mica.

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Speaker 1: As much as we love Coca Cola as a partner,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I could put that in my final call.

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Speaker 2: You know what, it reminds me of Mark.

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Speaker 5: Back in the mid to late eighties, college bowl games

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Speaker 5: started adding sponsors.

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Speaker 2: So it's not being the Fiesta Ball. It became the

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Speaker 2: sunkiss Fiesta Ball.

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Speaker 1: The Tostitos Tostillos, remember the Tennessee victory.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was sunkissed first, then it was Tostiedo.

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Speaker 1: I just remember Tostitos being in every scare inch of

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Speaker 1: visible space, so you could not miss it.

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Speaker 2: You could miss it. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: In nineteen eighty six, the Sunball became the John Hancock Sunbowl.

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Speaker 5: The Festa Ball became the sun Kiss Festa Bowl. And

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Speaker 5: the Gator Bowls renamed the MAS the Gator Bowl, and

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Speaker 5: I remember thinking.

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Speaker 2: I'm not Santos sponsors names.

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Speaker 5: That's stupid. I can't well, makes all the sense in

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Speaker 5: the world. And now it's accepted in our bowl game. Okay,

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Speaker 5: what's the sponsor? You know, obviously here we've had tax

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Speaker 5: act as the Texas Bowl sponsor.

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Speaker 2: That's fine, though.

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Speaker 5: I think that's where we're going with this. This is

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Speaker 5: at first we're gonna look at it and go the

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Speaker 5: All State Big Twelve. I don't know if I buy that.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if I like that, but it's gonna

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Speaker 5: become something like you said, I think it was great,

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Speaker 5: you know, the Barclays Premier League, I mean, whether the

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Speaker 5: Premier League brought to you by.

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Speaker 2: Barklays whatever, with the Bulls.

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Speaker 5: You expect it now, right, and I think that's gonna

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Speaker 5: it's gonna start to be expected by I think the conferences.

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Speaker 5: You know, what's the SEC gonna be? You know, the

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Speaker 5: Paul fine Baum sec. I don't know whoever wants to

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Speaker 5: sponsor it, but it could be. It could be worth

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Speaker 5: as much as fifty million dollars to the Big twelve

942
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Speaker 5: schools just to put the Big Twelve sponsored by All

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Speaker 5: Stay or the All State Big Twelve.

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Speaker 2: Now apparently there's another one in the mix.

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Speaker 5: But the bigger one to me, mark is the private

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Speaker 5: equity groups that are getting involved. And there's a there's

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Speaker 5: a capital there's a private equity group that couldn't get

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Speaker 5: involved with the Big Twelve that could maybe provide as

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Speaker 5: much as one billion dollars in investment for like fifteen

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Speaker 5: to twenty percent back, and that would give the Big

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Speaker 5: Twelve and its teams and its schools to compete with

952
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Speaker 5: the SEC, to compete with the ACC. Brettyormack, I'm telling

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Speaker 5: you right now, Brett Ormac will be a guide.

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Speaker 2: Want on my marketing team.

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Speaker 5: I would want it my leadership team, because that dude

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Speaker 5: is getting things done for the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 1: All right, back to the NFL, Falcons get doctor draft

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Speaker 1: choice fifth rounder and two hundred and fifty thousand dollars

959
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Speaker 1: in fine money because of the tampering with Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 1: prior to the negotiating window.

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Speaker 5: Thoughts, if I'm an NFL team and I know that's

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Speaker 5: the penalty I tamper all day long, I mean, that's nothing,

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Speaker 5: you know, because it's not even a speeding ticket mark.

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Speaker 5: It was al Capone's tax evasion. Al Capone was never

965
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Speaker 5: busted for killing people who are running a you know,

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Speaker 5: a mob ring. He was busted for tax evasion. The

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Speaker 5: Falcons got busted for scheduling flights for these three players.

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Speaker 5: That's what they got busted for. So if I'm in

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Speaker 5: the NFL team, I'm like Tampa On, baby tamper On.

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Speaker 1: All right, we've got stuff coming up tomorrow another Texans player.

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Speaker 1: It'll be a surprise, and we're gonna talk a little

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Speaker 1: soccer as well. We've got some amazing events, football events

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Speaker 1: coming up here at NRG Stadium. And you know, we're

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Speaker 1: always going to talk Texans because we do every single

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Speaker 1: day of the year. Coming up Area forty five. Don't

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Speaker 1: miss those guys as they opine on everything in the

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Speaker 1: world of.

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Speaker 2: Sports and beyond. Have a great night, Go Texans.