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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's dive into something that is a little bit

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Speaker 2: fun but also yet another thing we were right about.

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Speaker 2: So the data has come out Buck on the super

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Speaker 2: Bowl and I said, bad Bunny, bad choice for the

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Speaker 2: super Bowl. And people are still attacking me over this.

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Speaker 2: I said, hey, you know what, the super Bowl halftime

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Speaker 2: show should be in Spanish. Should not be in Spanish,

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Speaker 2: should be in English. And I said, I just did

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Speaker 2: Piers Morgan show right before this show started, so it's

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Speaker 2: going to be up in a little bit. But I

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Speaker 2: told Pierce Morgan because Pier's just like, well, what would

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Speaker 2: you say if Pavaratti were the halftime performer? I said,

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Speaker 2: that would be a poor choice, Piers.

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Speaker 1: I don't even come on.

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Speaker 2: Even even if it is the greatest opera singer of

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Speaker 2: all time, I don't think it would be a smart

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Speaker 2: decision for the NFL to have an opera singer or

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Speaker 2: anyone doing.

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Speaker 1: The national anthem. That would be cool, Like you know.

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Speaker 2: He's doing it in English if it's a national anthem,

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Speaker 2: I don't think it'll be smart to do the national

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Speaker 2: anthem in Italian.

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Speaker 1: So although it would be maybe interesting to hear.

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Speaker 2: The data has come out, Buck Bad Bunny lost ten

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Speaker 2: million viewers, the most people that have ever turned off

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Speaker 2: or left the Super Bowl for a halftime show in

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Speaker 2: the history of the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and so I think this is a clear sign

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Speaker 1: turning point.

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Speaker 2: USA obviously got whatever it was six million live streamers

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Speaker 2: on their YouTube channel, and other people just decided to bail.

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Speaker 2: I've said this before, it always has fascinated me. Almost always,

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl viewership peaks at halftime. So for those

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Speaker 2: of you out there that say, well, I don't know

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Speaker 2: why you care, I don't. Usually the biggest possible audience

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Speaker 2: that watching the Super Bowl watches at halftime. There are

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Speaker 2: lots of people, as many of you know, because this

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Speaker 2: is what frustrates me about the Super Bowl as a

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Speaker 2: big sports fan. Tons of people come rolling into Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl parties that have never watched an NFL game all year,

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Speaker 2: and they talk loudly and they distract me from being

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Speaker 2: able to actually watch the game because I watch games

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Speaker 2: all year. People like Buck they come in and they're

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Speaker 2: just chirping in the background.

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Speaker 3: I knew, I knew this was going to turn into

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Speaker 3: a little Clay jiu jitsu move to put me in

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Speaker 2: In the background about all the other things going on

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Speaker 2: in their life, and I'm like, I'm trying to hear

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Speaker 2: what they're saying.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to watch the game.

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Speaker 2: So but it is the case that there were the

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Speaker 2: most people to ever turn off the Super Bowl in

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Speaker 2: the history of the Super Bowl to ask you a

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Speaker 2: real question, like, because I actually what I've gone with

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Speaker 2: you to college football games, I try not to ask

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Speaker 2: a million questions and you're actually very very kind to

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Speaker 2: explain the basics life, some idea what the heck is

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Speaker 2: going on? Do you ever have to just be like, hey, guys,

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Speaker 2: I need radio silence, Like I can't answer. I can't

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Speaker 2: answer all of your questions while I'm watching if you're

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Speaker 2: in sort of a group set, like how do you

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Speaker 2: handle that?

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Speaker 1: Because I would assume everyone's like, Clay, what do you

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Speaker 1: think about that wide receiver choice? Clay, what do you

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Speaker 1: think about the assistant coach who's doing the blood but he.

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Speaker 2: Blog you are going to appreciate this, and I might

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Speaker 2: be the only person on the planet who does this.

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Speaker 2: I want to hear what the coaches say in the

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Speaker 2: halftime interview, and I also want to hear in a

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Speaker 2: postgame interview what the coaches and players say. So the

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Speaker 2: game ends and there's bedlam all around, and regularly, my

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Speaker 2: poor kids. Regularly, I'm like, hey, Pike, down over there,

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to hear what he's saying in the postgame

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Speaker 2: interview or the halftime interview, because occasionally you get information,

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Speaker 2: and you can try to deduce from the interview. I

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Speaker 2: don't know what percentage of people out there are like

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Speaker 2: me and want to actually hear the interview. Now, the

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Speaker 2: other thing buck that I will say is, and I

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Speaker 2: don't know how many people are like me in this way.

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Speaker 2: When my team is playing poorly and it's a team

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Speaker 2: that I actually care about, I mute the broadcast. My

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Speaker 2: wife has been making fun of me for this for years.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to hear announcers basically cheering on the

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Speaker 2: with the exception of sometimes like I said an interview

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Speaker 2: in front of my television, my wife will walk in.

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Speaker 1: She'll be like, you're just sitting in a room.

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Speaker 2: It's completely silent watching a game, Like, yeah, the game's

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Speaker 2: not going well. I don't need to hear the announcers,

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Speaker 2: So I would say, in general, I want the information,

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Speaker 2: the from the interviews. But yeah, like this, this this idea,

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Speaker 2: I do think it's a flaw. People are gonna say, well,

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Speaker 2: why does this matter? What is the lesson that should

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Speaker 2: be drawn from it? I think it's that the NFL

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Speaker 2: should be trying to reach the broadest possible audience. And

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Speaker 2: some people are gonna roll their eyes about this, But

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Speaker 2: I do think American cultural experiences that are shared matter.

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Speaker 2: Having something that everybody is experiencing together as one is

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Speaker 2: something that that is should be aspirational. We have relatively

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Speaker 2: few of those, and making selections on a halftime show

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Speaker 2: that alienates the vast majority of the viewership because they

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Speaker 2: have no idea what's being said or what's being done

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Speaker 2: is a poor decision by the NFL, and I think

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Speaker 2: they should reconsider going forward and try to get people

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Speaker 2: very basically who speak English to perform at the halftime show.

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Speaker 3: And I just have to say, there's also been this.

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Speaker 3: I like that he bad bunny.

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Speaker 1: What his name is?

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Speaker 2: His last name is Ocazio, right, I have no idea

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Speaker 2: what his actual name is.

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Speaker 1: Is he related to aoc Are they brother and sister? Pretty?

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Speaker 3: I was wondering if there's some some relation there, but

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Speaker 3: I thought it was interesting that there was this Spanish

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Speaker 3: is now the language of anti colonialism. That is truly hilarious.

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Speaker 3: Oh that is funny. That is a hilarious take that

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Speaker 4: Like well, of course, like this is Spanish is the

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Speaker 1: So it's like so I had to do it.

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Speaker 3: I had to take it to Twitter on this one

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Speaker 3: with more brutal And by the way, Spain, I love

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Speaker 3: my time in Spain. I think Spain is a beautiful country,

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Speaker 3: an amazing place. I think it probably saved Western civilization.

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Speaker 1: The Spanish showed up in the New World and they

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Speaker 1: were like, we're gonna take all your We're.

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Speaker 3: Gonna kill a lot of you, and anybody who doesn't

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Speaker 2: Let me take I hadn't seen this that people are

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's very Yeah, Spanish is now the language of

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Speaker 3: the oppressed or something. I'm like, well, you gotta learn

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Speaker 3: it turns out if you learn your history. I mean,

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Speaker 3: the Spanish cot there's a reason they're called the conquistadors.

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Speaker 3: They weren't showing up to like just settle. They realized

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Speaker 1: They just took all their stuff.

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Speaker 3: They had treasure galleons going back to Spain to pay

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Speaker 1: Like this is It's just so funny to me that

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Speaker 4: Like, yeah, but what about the British and their role

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, no, that's true.

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Speaker 4: The British for a couple hundred years were the second

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Speaker 1: Anyone, anyone at home want to know who they act?

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Speaker 3: By far, by far, the the biggest perpetrator of the

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Speaker 3: So I just think it's interesting Spain Portugal now we

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Speaker 1: They were playing for keeps back in the day.

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Speaker 2: It's also funny because anyone that actually talks about reparations,

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Speaker 2: sole payer of reparations, when to your point, Buck, Europe

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Speaker 2: is actually responsible overwhelmingly for all of slavery in Africa.

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Speaker 2: And of course people only focus on slaves from Africa, right,

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Speaker 2: despite the fact that for thousands of the Barbary pirate

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Speaker 2: far the North. African slavers went as far as Iceland

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Speaker 2: And this isn't This isn't taught in school because people

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Speaker 3: They'll be like, that's not true. Google it actually better Crocket,

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Speaker 3: you'll see all.

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Speaker 2: It's actually, I think symptomatic of one of the great

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Speaker 2: historical the literacy and the inability to understand our country,

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Speaker 2: but basically the whole landscape of the world historically everything

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is really, I mean, this is intentional.

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Speaker 2: The entire purpose of much of left wing cultural argument

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Speaker 2: is to they made it blicit with the sixteen nineteen project,

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Speaker 2: root all of American history and indeed all of Western

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Speaker 2: civilization to slavery, which began in sixteen nineteen, which is

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Speaker 2: why they tried to with Nicole Hanna Jones New York

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Speaker 2: Times try to argue, Hey, the real focus of America

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Speaker 2: is not seventeen seventy six when we got independence, it's

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Speaker 2: actually sixteen nineteen. Because America is founded in the original

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Speaker 2: sin of slavery, and therefore nothing that occurred in America

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Speaker 2: is legitimate. We can burn down the Declaration of Independence,

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Speaker 2: the Constitution, all of the great heroes of American life,

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Speaker 2: they are illegitimate, the Constitution, all of the great heroes

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Speaker 2: of American life, they are illegitimate because the true founding

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Speaker 2: of America happened in sixteen nineteen. Very regarding in the

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Speaker 4: In America, we fought a huge, massive civil war with

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Speaker 4: how many casualties play In total.

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Speaker 2: Six hundred thousand people died in a time when the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean there are people alive who were

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Speaker 1: Got a lot to talk about, So.

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Speaker 3: We've just got deep into that history conversation with I

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Speaker 1: There are still people.

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Speaker 2: Who are enslaved in the world today, right like there

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Speaker 3: In Minijdan countries where there's still active slavery practice and

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Speaker 3: a New York Times doesn't like talk about that very much. Also, Klay,

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Speaker 1: This is true story.

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Speaker 3: But I wrote it, wrote every word how the left

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Speaker 3: But the audiobook is me your voice, yours truly voicing it.

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Speaker 3: context and no one has any idea who you are.

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Speaker 3: Your YouTube example, this was the first time I realized

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Speaker 3: how big YouTube was getting.

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Speaker 1: I don't go to them all that often.

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Speaker 2: But I was going to the mall for like a

443
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Speaker 2: Christmas last minute shopping trip, and they had a tour

444
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Speaker 2: of YouTube and personalities.

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Speaker 1: This is probably like fifteen years.

446
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Speaker 2: Ago, and the entire mall was swarmed with kids such

447
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Speaker 2: that you could barely move in the mall. And I

448
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Speaker 2: had no idea who any of these people that they

449
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Speaker 2: were clamoring to see. I'll give you an example, because

450
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Speaker 2: again I have my own kids. I played in that

451
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Speaker 2: celebrity poker match with Ted Cruz, Doyle Brunson with UH

452
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Speaker 2: and mister Beast was like the most famous person you

453
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Speaker 2: had ever sat next in your life.

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Speaker 1: According to your boys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the old and mister Beast I had really didn't

456
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Speaker 2: know him at all, and now he's kind of he's

457
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Speaker 2: a billionaire. I think he's better known now than he

458
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Speaker 2: was like four or five years ago by the general public.

459
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Speaker 1: But that niche of teenage.

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Speaker 2: Or you know, like it was really tweens, right, like

461
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Speaker 2: if you were eight to twelve about five years ago,

462
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Speaker 2: eight to fourteen, you were obsessed with mister Beasts.

463
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Speaker 1: Now those kids have gotten older.

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Speaker 2: But I had no idea that audience existed, and so

465
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Speaker 2: my point on this is we have I've created a

466
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Speaker 2: world where cultures don't overlap all the time, and where

467
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Speaker 2: somebody can be super influential. I think, honestly, Kamla got

468
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Speaker 2: caught flat footed on this because she thought traditional celebrities

469
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Speaker 2: endorsing her were going to make a difference. And Trump

470
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Speaker 2: recognized the rise of the online ecosystem in a way

471
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Speaker 2: that she did not. And I do think those guys

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Speaker 2: that have young male audiences are uniquely influential in a

473
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Speaker 2: way that I don't know. Queen Latifa and Beyonce are

474
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Speaker 2: not those young male audiences online. They're more impactful than

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Speaker 2: ever before.

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Speaker 3: I had a buddy down here who went on a

477
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Speaker 3: date with a Latin pop star and I had he

478
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Speaker 3: told me and I had never heard of this person before.

479
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Speaker 3: And this woman had sixty million Instagram followers play sixty million.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's unbelievable. And I was like, that's a lot.

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Speaker 3: That's gonna if you're if you're in conservative media and

482
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Speaker 3: you have seven figures of Instagram followers, that's pretty unusual.

483
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Speaker 3: I mean, there's saw you know, I mean, you know,

484
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Speaker 3: Megan Kelly, as millions, Ben Shapiro. I mean, there are

485
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Speaker 3: people who have a lot of Instagram followers, but they

486
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Speaker 3: don't have sixty million that I could tell you. So

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Speaker 3: the point is here the world, what is fame and

488
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Speaker 3: what is notoriety and all these things, it has changed dramatically. Okay,

489
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Speaker 3: that was a bit of a digression. Let's dive into

490
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Speaker 3: something else. Well, this ties into the fame thing a

491
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Speaker 3: bit because a lot of you have been pointing out

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Speaker 3: that the Nancy Guthrie story is getting a hugely disproportioned

493
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Speaker 3: amount of attention because she has a famous daughter. That

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Speaker 3: is just true. That said, we want Nancy Guthrie to

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Speaker 3: be returned home safe and sound, and we want the

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Speaker 3: FBI to be able to bring this to the swiftest

497
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Speaker 3: possible conclusion. Caroline Levin in the White House, this is

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Speaker 3: cut three. She spoke about this play play three.

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Speaker 6: I mean everyone, thank you, thank you for coming today.

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Speaker 6: I apologize for the delay. I was once again with

501
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Speaker 6: the President. He and I were both reviewing the newly

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Speaker 6: released surveillance footage from FBI and the Savannah Guthrie case

503
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Speaker 6: on just this heartbreaking situation with respect to her mother.

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Speaker 6: And once again I will reiterate that the prayers of

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Speaker 6: this entire White House are with Savannah and her family

506
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Speaker 6: at this time, and we hope this person is found

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Speaker 6: soon and that her mother is brought home safe.

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Speaker 3: There were I mean, that's where this is right now, Clay.

509
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Speaker 3: They they had a person of interest that they talked to,

510
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Speaker 3: and it's quite clear this is not somebody who was

511
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Speaker 3: involved in the kidnapping, and you know everything is. But

512
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Speaker 3: I was just thinking about this when the story is

513
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Speaker 3: breaking last night, when there's so much attention on a

514
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Speaker 3: case like this, as there is a national, big national story.

515
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Speaker 3: It's leading a lot of news broadcasts right now and

516
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Speaker 3: a leading a lot of news websites. Could you imagine

517
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Speaker 3: you're the like the Uber eats driver who was just

518
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Speaker 3: geolocated to be in the vicinity when this happened, and

519
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Speaker 3: the FBI team and the wind breakers and everything show

520
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Speaker 3: up at your door. That's got to be and you

521
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Speaker 3: know you have nothing to do with like, but that's

522
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Speaker 3: got to be a heck of a moment.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I will say it's a positive that they've been

524
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Speaker 2: able to geolocate some people, and I guess they probably

525
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 2: pulled up who that guy was and tried to photo

526
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Speaker 2: match him with the information that they have of who

527
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Speaker 2: was on the front porch. This is also, however, a

528
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Speaker 2: sign of how obsessively the media is covering this, that

529
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Speaker 2: we know every intricate minute, pickyun detail of this investigation

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Speaker 2: that's going on, such that I mean they interviewed last night.

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Speaker 2: Before I was going to bed, I saw some of

532
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Speaker 2: this stuff happening on social media. Oh, they've detained someone.

533
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Speaker 2: Maybe there's a person of interest. I put it on

534
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Speaker 2: and then shortly thereafter CNN's interview in the guy's mom

535
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Speaker 2: and I was like, I'm not an expert on, you know,

536
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Speaker 2: criminal profiling, but when the when your mom comes out

537
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Speaker 2: and does an interview and she's like, I don't know

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Speaker 2: what's going on here.

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Speaker 1: They're in the house, they're searching. I was like, do

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Speaker 1: we have this audio.

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Speaker 3: Habits cut two woman whose house is being searched for

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Speaker 3: Nancy Guthrie.

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Speaker 1: She was like, we got we got nothing to do

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Speaker 1: with that play too.

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Speaker 7: They came out telling us that they had somebody gave

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Speaker 7: a tip that the lady was in my house. I

547
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Speaker 7: don't know her name. The comes upon fancy that we

548
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Speaker 7: don't know, we don't know, I don't I don't know

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Speaker 7: who she is. I don't know anything about her They

550
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Speaker 7: only said that they gave a tip that she was

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Speaker 7: in my house, and I told them, you can go

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Speaker 7: in and search your house.

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Speaker 5: There's nobody there.

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Speaker 7: I have nothing to hide. There's nobody in my house.

555
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Speaker 7: And I don't know what's going on. I mean, can't

556
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Speaker 7: you get any members at might know they're they're they're

557
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Speaker 7: investigating my son and now he's not have nothing to

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Speaker 7: do with that either. I don't know else what. That's

559
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Speaker 7: kind of fun as well. I have nothing to do

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Speaker 7: with it either. I don't know what's going to what

561
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Speaker 7: else to say? Yeah, they're just invading my property. I

562
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Speaker 7: told them they're going in and now my house, taking

563
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Speaker 7: a little pictures and everything. I mean, like I told him,

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Speaker 7: we're not hiding anything. I give him permission. If you're

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Speaker 7: going to search, there's nothing.

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Speaker 1: In my house.

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Speaker 7: You won't find anything because we don't have nothing to hide.

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Speaker 3: Play if you if you are the person here that

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Speaker 3: they're showing up saying we have a tip that Nancy

570
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Speaker 3: Guthrie is in your home, do you just say, do

571
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Speaker 3: you go whatever you want FBI, just go for it,

572
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 3: or do you say, hold on a second.

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Speaker 2: I need to see a warrant and I need to

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Speaker 2: speak to a lawyer, I would see need to. I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is I'm a lawyer. My first thought would be

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Speaker 2: somebody's trying to set me up. So I don't want

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Speaker 2: I don't want anybody searching my home for anything without

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Speaker 2: a warrant, because I mean, and this this may be

579
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Speaker 2: me uniquely being a lawyer and a media figure, but

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Speaker 2: if the FBI shows up banging on my door, even

581
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Speaker 2: if I know that there's no truth to it at all,

582
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Speaker 2: like I mean, you know, Nancy Guthrie is not in

583
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Speaker 2: my house, but I would be like, what's going on here?

584
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Speaker 2: Is somebody trying to set me up? I would be

585
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Speaker 2: nervous about the search process itself, and somebody would like,

586
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Speaker 2: you know, basically planting evidence based on what we saw

587
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: happened to Trump.

588
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Speaker 1: I'm not letting the FBI search.

589
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Speaker 2: My house for anything without a warrant, even now, even

590
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Speaker 2: now with cash Pttel, who I like and know is

591
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Speaker 2: the FBI director. I am saying no, sir, And I

592
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Speaker 2: understand some people are gonna say, well, that seems like

593
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Speaker 2: you're suspicious, But as a lawyer, I don't want people

594
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Speaker 2: in my house without warrants, period.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what would you do?

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Speaker 3: I agree with you in principle, and you are correct

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Speaker 3: on the law. I think if you're this person, you're

598
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Speaker 3: this woman, and it's so hard to be like, excuse me, FBI,

599
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 3: excuse me, I'm gonna wait for my attorney. And you know,

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Speaker 3: I just think that the pressure that somebody would feel.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying that it's the right move in response

602
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Speaker 3: to the pressure, but the pressure to just be like,

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Speaker 3: look for anything you want, I don't care would be well, most.

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Speaker 2: People are going to allow authorities in their house to

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Speaker 2: search even without a warrant, because you don't know your

606
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: full rights, and you just because they ask, hey, are

607
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Speaker 2: you okay?

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Speaker 1: I mean you're paraphrasing, are you okay?

609
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 2: If we come in and search for so and so,

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Speaker 2: most people don't think to then say do you have

611
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Speaker 2: a warrant? Because when you consent to a search, then

612
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Speaker 2: you've consented. They can come through.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of cops, I don't know, we

614
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 3: could take some talkbacks and some calls, or some cops

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Speaker 3: and former FBI or current FBI on this, they want

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Speaker 3: to call in.

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Speaker 1: I think that they might start to uh.

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Speaker 3: They again, there's a process as a procedure, But if

619
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Speaker 3: you're the person when someone shows up Knox and verses,

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Speaker 3: we think that Nancy Guthrie is in your house and

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Speaker 3: you're like, excuse me, I want it, I want to

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Speaker 3: see a warrant, and like I want my attorney present.

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Speaker 3: I think that they get even if my point here

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Speaker 3: is that, even though that is lawful and the right

625
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Speaker 3: thing for someone to do in that circumstance, I think

626
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Speaker 3: the cops would be like, oh, we might have.

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Speaker 1: A problem here, and I get it.

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Speaker 3: I don't have a problem. Then it's fine. But I'm

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Speaker 3: just saying everyone all you're now you go from a

630
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Speaker 3: person of interest to a person of suspicion pretty fast

631
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Speaker 3: in that situation.

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Speaker 1: That's all just an observation.

633
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Speaker 3: But I Clay is right on the you don't talk

634
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Speaker 3: to the Look, I don't talk to the FBI without

635
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Speaker 3: without an attorney.

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Speaker 1: President.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you that right now. I just after guys

638
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 2: too much. Try to set your everything else. My first

639
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 2: thought is, who set me up? You're not going to

640
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 2: have the rules are the rules of the house. Yeah,

641
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Speaker 2: the rules are the rules.

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Speaker 3: But this isn't like some random FBI got knocking at

643
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Speaker 3: your door and a windbreaker like, hey, can we talk

644
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 3: about something this is we think Nancy Guthrie is in

645
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Speaker 3: your house.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a whole level above. It's all I'm saying anyway.

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Speaker 3: All right, look, if you've got an IRA or four

648
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 3: oh one k, how about including gold in your whole process.

649
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 3: We're used to hearing about mutual funds and stocks and

650
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 3: all that stuff and retirement accounts, but gold is something

651
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Speaker 3: that you can actually hold in your hands. It's a

652
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Speaker 3: physical asset, and you can buy gold from Birch Gold Group.

653
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 3: You can also get Birch Gold Group to help you

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Speaker 3: convert an iray or four oh one k into an

655
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Speaker 3: IRA in physical gold, no matter how many years you've

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Speaker 2: Eight still no update really on Nancy Guthrie.

666
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Speaker 1: For those of you following that case.

667
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 2: Pam Bondi is testifying on Capitol Hill about Jeffrey Epstein

668
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Speaker 2: and Moore. Good news coming out about the US economy.

669
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 2: Unemployment rate fell down to four point three percent, over one.

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Speaker 1: Hundred thousand new jobs created. All of that very positive.

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Speaker 2: It's sent the stock market up again to near record

672
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 2: highs and beyond. And we have been talking about all

673
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Speaker 2: those stories and more throughout the course of the first

674
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Speaker 2: two hours. But I was reading yesterday buck Rett as

675
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 2: well New York Times editorial came out and said, hey,

676
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Speaker 2: about this whole legal isation of marijuana. Basically, we were wrong,

677
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 2: I'm paraphrasing. The impact of marijuana on society has been

678
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 2: far more substantial than we anticipated. A stat in there

679
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Speaker 2: blew my mind. More people use marijuana daily than use

680
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Speaker 2: alcohol daily. Alex Parents, and you've been writing about this

681
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Speaker 2: for quite some time. I just put up a question,

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Speaker 2: and I'm curious to see what the answer is. As

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Speaker 2: a lead in for you, I asked, would you rather

684
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Speaker 2: your kids smoke pot for the rest of their lives

685
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 2: as adults or drink alcohol for the rest of their lives?

686
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,959
Speaker 2: I'll share those results with you here shortly. But Alex,

687
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 2: you're a parent if obviously I know a lot of

688
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 2: people out there like I don't want my kids to

689
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 2: drink and I don't want them to smoke anything. Okay,

690
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 2: ideally that would be the case. They live to be

691
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty and be super healthy. But if

692
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 2: you had to choose as a father based on what

693
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 2: you know, is alcohol or pot in your mind more

694
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Speaker 2: of a health concern when it's used regularly.

695
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Speaker 5: But if we're talking about starting as a teenager, I

696
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 5: would definitely want them to consume alcohol instead of cannabis

697
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 5: because cannabis is much more likely to cause them really

698
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 5: severe psychiatric health problems if they start using as a teenager.

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Speaker 2: Okay, sorry to cut you off there, but I might

700
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Speaker 2: explain what do you mean by that? Because most people

701
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 2: think pot, they think like you're just kind of a well,

702
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 2: i'm gonna be honest, like a kind of a slacker,

703
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 2: not very motivated those things. But there is evidence out

704
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 2: there that actually it leads to severe psychological issues explained.

705
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Speaker 5: So it's interesting because I wrote a book called Tell

706
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 5: Your Children About This in twenty nineteen, right, that's seven

707
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 5: years ago. And you know, even at that time, the

708
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 5: science was pretty developed on this. It's only become more

709
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 5: developed since. And I would say I sort of experienced

710
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 5: what it was like to kind of be too far

711
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 5: ahead on an issue, in that the industry hated me,

712
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 5: the legalizers hated me, and nobody either on the left

713
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 5: or the right, was particularly interested in the science because

714
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 5: I think I think most people had you know, the

715
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Speaker 5: only Yes, there were older people who didn't really like cannabis,

716
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 5: but most people, you know, I would say fifty and younger,

717
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 5: certainly viewed things the way you do, like this is

718
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 5: just a you know, this is sort of a light

719
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 5: recreational drug that yeah, most people, if they get stone,

720
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 5: they're just gonna sit on their couch eating doritos. So

721
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 5: there's a couple of things. Terms of all that was

722
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 5: never really true, but it's become much less true in

723
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 5: the last twenty years. And the reason for that is

724
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 5: that cannabis has gotten much much stronger. So what I

725
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 5: mean is that the plant used to have one to

726
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 5: five percent THC in it by weight, and so you know,

727
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,919
Speaker 5: you'd pack a joint and you'd smoke it, you'd get

728
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 5: maybe ten milig of THCHC and that was you know,

729
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 5: that was a couple of drinks. It was enough to

730
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 5: get you a bit high. Some people like that, some

731
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 5: people didn't. These days, what's happened is that the industry

732
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 5: has cannabis actually is quite addictive, not so much physically, psychologically,

733
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 5: it's very addictive. And the industry, even before it became legal,

734
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 5: but also since it's become legal, has responded to that

735
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 5: by producing plants that are like twenty to thirty percent

736
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 5: THHC by weight, so you're getting much more of this chemical.

737
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 5: It's like you used to drink a beer and all

738
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 5: of a sudden the beer is is whisky, okay. But

739
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 5: there's something else that's happened, which is a lot of

740
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 5: people these days don't even smoke what's called flower cannabis,

741
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 5: which is what you think of as a joint or

742
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Speaker 5: a bong. They vape, So when they're vaping, they're basically

743
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,720
Speaker 5: just they're just basically inhaling pure THC. This is stuff

744
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 5: that has been it's been grown at all, it's been

745
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 5: grown with cannabis that isn't very high quality. And then

746
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 5: literally people run on alcohol through it, they run propane

747
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 5: through it. It's a real frankenstanding process to extract this

748
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 5: chemical thchc. Then that's turned into a distillate that's put

749
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 5: into a vape. So when people say this stuff is natural,

750
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 5: it's about as natural. It's actually less natural than your

751
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 5: average cigarette. It's more like a nicotine vape. And so

752
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 5: what that means from the user point of view, putting

753
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 5: aside all the chemical stuff is what it means when

754
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 5: you use it point of view is it's really easy

755
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 5: to use a lot of THHC. And unlike alcohol, most

756
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 5: people you know, I would say most people have a

757
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 5: pretty common reaction to alcohol. Right, it's an intoxic and

758
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 5: it loosens you up a little bit. Some people really

759
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 5: like it, But most people, even if they don't like

760
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 5: it much, they'll like a couple of drinks. Right with

761
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Speaker 5: Cannabis is very different. Some people do not like the

762
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 5: high at all. They find it makes them paranoid, it

763
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 5: makes them upset. They do it once or twice, they

764
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 5: don't like it. Some people really like this sort of

765
00:37:56,040 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 5: quasi hallucinatory effect it provides along with the intoxication, and

766
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 5: those people will use a huge amount of it, and

767
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 5: weirdly enough, some of them don't actually seem to mind

768
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 5: that they get paranoid and quasi psychotic on it, and

769
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 5: those are the people who are really at risk. And unfortunately,

770
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 5: if you start using this drug when you're thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen,

771
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Speaker 5: and you become a heavy user of it, your risk

772
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 5: of developing a psychotic disorder, usually schizophrenia, is much higher

773
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 5: than people realize. And those are terrible illnesses. Right. So

774
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 5: schizophrenia is that you know, you hear voices, you get

775
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 5: very paranoid. It's something you can't turn on and off. Right.

776
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 5: It's not a temporary condition from smoking pot. It's permanent,

777
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 5: and that RECs people's lives, rex families, and that's what

778
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 5: Tell your Children was all about. And so the industry

779
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 5: obviously hated this, and I think just a lot of

780
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 5: people didn't, you know, they reefer madness was what they thought. Oh,

781
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 5: this is nonsense, This is not a real thing. This

782
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,240
Speaker 5: is just somebody who doesn't like drugs. Unfortunately, it is real.

783
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 5: And I think what's happened in the last five years

784
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 5: is a lot of people have seen friends or family

785
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 5: members or kids or or you know, friends of kids

786
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 5: get very badly impacted by cannabis. And in fact, to me,

787
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 5: the most the most significant thing that happened in the

788
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 5: last week. The Times editorial is very important. The most

789
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 5: significant thing that happened in last week is that a

790
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 5: conservative commentator, a young woman named Brett Cooper, who you

791
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 5: guys may know. I think she's in Nashville, right.

792
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: Yes, she is.

793
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 5: She wrote a posts or she posted something on Twitter

794
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 5: on x yesterday saying my brother has just been diagnosed

795
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 5: with schizophrenia and the doctors told us it's probably related

796
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 5: to his cannabis use. So that post has now gotten

797
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 5: more than four million views. So what is happening is

798
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 5: that people out there are seeing like, oh, this guy Berenson,

799
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 5: He's not like, he's not some anti drug lunatic. He's

800
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 5: writing about a real medical problem. That. Yes, obviously it's

801
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 5: true that most people who use cannabis, even though they

802
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 5: use a lot, even if they smoke TTC vapes, they're

803
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 5: not going to become permanently psychotic. But this is a

804
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 5: real risk. It's a dangerous drug. There are other health risks.

805
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 5: There are cardiac risks. There's something called cannabinoid hyper emesis syndrome,

806
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 5: which most people just call scrammmeting, which is when you

807
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 5: become you start to use and you basically you basically

808
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 5: begin to vomit uncontrollably. And this is a real problem.

809
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 5: I mean, it sounds bizarre, but it is a real problem.

810
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 5: And then there's just like the apathy and the memory

811
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 5: problems and just the general issues around using cannabis for

812
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 5: long periods of time that I think even the industry

813
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 5: would acknowledge.

814
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 3: Could I jump in there to just see if you

815
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 3: can give us a sense of the societal cost of

816
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Speaker 3: all of this as well, because one thing I remember

817
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 3: when we were at that phase of oh, legalize, everything

818
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 3: will be great. Every than be fine, it was like,

819
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 3: it's going to pay for all the schools. It's going

820
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 3: to be so heavily taxed, that'll be a great source

821
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 3: of revenue and all all these and it's going to

822
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 3: be regulated in a way where it's not. I can't

823
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 3: walk around the street in New York City now with

824
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 3: that just there's just weed everywhere. It's just all over

825
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,240
Speaker 3: the place, and it drives me nuts.

826
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Speaker 5: It's there's a ton of weed. And the truth is

827
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 5: you can't tax it at a very high level because

828
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 5: it will just drive people back to the illicit market.

829
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Speaker 5: That's what California has found one of the other amazing things.

830
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 5: So the Times writes this editorial and they say, well, basically,

831
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Speaker 5: we don't like vapes. We don't want sixty percent thc

832
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 5: cannabis products to be legal, So no vapes basically. So

833
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 5: what's not going to look like in practice? We're going

834
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 5: to have a legal industry that's advertising product, but more

835
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 5: than sixty percent is suddenly illegal. You want to talk

836
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 5: about a nightmare for law enforcement, It's hard to imagine

837
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 5: a bigger nightmare than that. So I mean to me,

838
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 5: there are law enforcement, you know, issues here. There are

839
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 5: questions that we have to answer as a society about

840
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 5: legalization and regulation. But the number one issue here is cultural.

841
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 5: The number one issue here is this can't be promoted

842
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 5: to people as medicine any more. And we have to

843
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 5: be honest. That's an addictive, dangerous product that a lot

844
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 5: of people can't use safely, that does cause car accidents,

845
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 5: that does cause violence, because psychosis does cause violence, and

846
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 5: cannabis can cause psychotic episodes as well as schizophrenia. And

847
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 5: so if we're honest about it, you know, if we

848
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 5: push back the way we've pushed back on cigarettes, there

849
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 5: will be less use, and that is the number one

850
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 5: thing we got to do.

851
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Speaker 2: So Alex Buck and I were just talking off air.

852
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 2: There are a lot of great societies where alcohol is

853
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 2: consumed in a substantial level, right, I mean much of

854
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 2: human history people have consumed alcohol, and society has advanced

855
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 2: in a significant way. Let me give you this, by

856
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 2: the way, fifty eight percent of you say you would

857
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 2: rather your kids. This is on my poll. Fifty eight

858
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 2: percent of you say you would rather your kids drink alcohol.

859
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 2: Forty two percent of you said you would rather your

860
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Speaker 2: kids smoke pot. It seems to me again the slacker

861
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 2: gene of pot smoking is that you just don't accomplish

862
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 2: very much society wide. If we all smoked pot and

863
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 2: we all drank alcohol or vice versa, what do you.

864
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: Think the impact would be.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, in an ideal world, people would only make healthy

866
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 2: decisions and we'd all live to be one hundred and fifty.

867
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Speaker 2: But obviously there are sins and vices that are going

868
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Speaker 2: to be consumed. What should happen in your world if

869
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Speaker 2: you had a magic wand with pot and can you

870
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 2: think society wide? Again, lots of cultures that embrace alcohol

871
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,720
Speaker 2: have had tremendous success are their cultures that embrace pot

872
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,240
Speaker 2: that have gone to different levels of societal and human

873
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 2: history success.

874
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 5: So very interesting because usually when the cannabis hits a

875
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 5: certain level in society, and you can see this in

876
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 5: India in particular, okay, but also in North Africa to

877
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 5: so I'm extending in Mexico, uh, in the in the

878
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 5: in the late eighteen hundreds, there becomes a big pushback

879
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 5: actually there, and it's because what happens is people do say,

880
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 5: this doesn't look like a very good drug for a

881
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 5: lot of people to be using. It doesn't seem to,

882
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 5: you know, enhance motivation, it doesn't seem to make its

883
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 5: users sort of better citizens in any way. It makes

884
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 5: a lot of them drop out, uh. And it makes

885
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 5: some of them again in this odd way, it makes

886
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 5: them mentally ill. And then and then we have to

887
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 5: deal with the cost of that and the violence of that,

888
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 5: and obviously that's also terrible on a personal level for

889
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 5: the person and for their families and so and so.

890
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 5: You see, basically, the US and Canada have pushed legalization

891
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 5: in these sort of last one hundred years further than

892
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 5: anybody else. And usually when it hits the levels in

893
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 5: that it has hit in the US. I'm talking about historically,

894
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 5: there is a pendulum swing against this, which you don't

895
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 5: see with alcohol. Alcohol. You know, look, the US did

896
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 5: try to prohibit it at one time, but about fifty

897
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 5: percent of adults consume alcohol in the US, and in

898
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 5: some cultures it's been more than that over time. And

899
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 5: what you see is that alcohol is a drug that

900
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 5: a lot of people consume pretty casually. And another thing

901
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 5: about alcohols, and this sounds sort of a silly way

902
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 5: to put it, but it's a real change. You need

903
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 5: a titrate, meaning if you one beer, you kind of

904
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 5: know what that one beer is gonna do to you.

905
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 5: Cannabis it's smoked. It's just a lot harder to know

906
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 5: exactly how much you're consuming and how it might affect

907
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 5: you at any time. And so alcohol in some ways,

908
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 5: I mean, if you're going to pick an intoxicant, alcohols

909
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 5: are pretty good intoxicant to pick. It's a a pro

910
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 5: social drug, right like you know, you can you can

911
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 5: do a study. You get a bunch of people who

912
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 5: don't know each other in a room and you know

913
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 5: they don't talk much. You give each of them an alcohol.

914
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 5: You know, an alcohol unit, a beer or a glass

915
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 5: of wine, whatever it is, the noise level goes up,

916
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 5: they start to talk. And so I'm I'm not saying

917
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 5: that alcohol is in any way, you know, something we

918
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 5: should all be using a lot, or that it's a

919
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 5: you know that it's that it's a particularly good drug.

920
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 5: It does cause violence, it causes car accidents, that can

921
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 5: cause liver failure. There's tons of problems with alcohol, and frankly,

922
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 5: I don't even necessarily think it should be advertised on television.

923
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 5: But it is a better societal lubricant than cannabis, which

924
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 5: essentially just puts people in rooms in their basements watching TV. Right.

925
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 5: It Cannabis enhances sensation. So yes, there's an idea of oh,

926
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 5: I'm going to go to a concert and smoke a

927
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 5: little pot and it'll make the music sort of sound

928
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 5: more intense to me. But really that's just an individual's experience.

929
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 5: It is not really enhancing socialization in the way that

930
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 5: alcohol does. So yeah, I think, look, there are gonna

931
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,919
Speaker 5: be people who smoke pot. Okay, There's gonna be people

932
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 5: who like the effect that THHC has on them. There's

933
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 5: people who like the effect that cocaine has on them.

934
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 5: There are people who like the effect that you know,

935
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 5: heroin has on them, and there are people who take risks.

936
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 5: And even if those drugs are illegal, there's gonna be

937
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,399
Speaker 5: some as they should be, there's gonna be some people

938
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 5: who use them. That's not the question. The question is

939
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 5: as a society, do we want to encourage the use

940
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 5: of cannabis and have a big legalized industry that's promoting this.

941
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 5: And I think we are seeing more and more that

942
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 5: the answer that question is new. And for people to say, well,

943
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 5: then you should prohibit alcohol too, I'd say again, alcohol

944
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 5: is much more commonly used by people casually. It doesn't

945
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 5: have this sort of I mean, yes, there are alcoholics,

946
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 5: but there's alcohol is more embedded in the fabric of

947
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 5: human society and has been for a really long time.

948
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Speaker 5: In cannabis.

949
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, at Western civilization was built with a lot of

950
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 3: people drinking wine. Asking anybody who is the church? Wine

951
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 3: is part of a lot of important things. So I

952
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 3: think there's a whole different set of a situation or

953
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 3: a set of facts to address there. Alex, we got

954
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 3: to leave it there. But people should go subscribe to

955
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956
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957
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Speaker 3: I'll me with it.

958
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 5: I'm used to it. You might want. By the way, guys,

959
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 5: you know, if you're interested in this, people should read

960
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 5: Tell your children and see how strong the science really is.

961
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 5: I'm not I mean, I'm promoting a book, but it's

962
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 5: important for people to understand that.

963
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