Speaker 1: Two on the move, galling deep speedways past Hell.
Speaker 2: From the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex.
Speaker 1: This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield.
Speaker 2: He's good, my adnds in the playoffs? What is up Dolphins?
Speaker 2: And welcome to the Draft Time Podcast. I am your host,
Speaker 2: Travis Wingfield. And on today's show, another day of Dolphins
Speaker 2: training camp is in the books. We'll break down all
Speaker 2: the action for another sterling defensive effort. More big plays
Speaker 2: by the Cheetah and the Penguin and iye popping performance
Speaker 2: from the tight end room. We'll tell you about that
Speaker 2: here in just one second. I want to tell you
Speaker 2: about Patrick Paul's pass sets, say that five times fast.
Speaker 2: A bunch of standouts on defense. The Brooks and Walker
Speaker 2: combination is absolutely on it through two days. About Chopp
Speaker 2: and Cam Brown meeting at the quarterback once again. Emmanuel
Speaker 2: Ogbaugh on the ox cord with the orange jersey, puts
Speaker 2: together another soliday for himself. Elijah Campbell, cater COOHU, Quentin
Speaker 2: Bell ball Out. We'll talk to Quentin Bell on the
Speaker 2: podcast for an exclusive one on one chat with him.
Speaker 2: We'll talk to Javon Holland as well, and some great
Speaker 2: insight from quarterback Mike White on how Tua tongue by
Speaker 2: Lois sees the field and how it helps the entire
Speaker 2: operation down here with the Miami Dolphins from the Baptist
Speaker 2: Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex.
Speaker 1: This is the Drive Time podcast.
Speaker 2: YEA, let's go ahead and get this thing rolling by
Speaker 2: diving right on into it. No McDaniel presser today, but
Speaker 2: we do have a lot of good stuff, including audio
Speaker 2: here from and Look, this is a really, really, really
Speaker 2: tough battle, and I would compare it to the College
Speaker 2: Football Committee last year and the tough choices they had
Speaker 2: to make. But the title of my favorite press conference
Speaker 2: and or interview because Mike White is in the running
Speaker 2: and I thought he ripped it today both at his
Speaker 2: press conference and on the field. And of course, the
Speaker 2: big news of the day is well twofold number one
Speaker 2: Javon Holland was back after a little bit of a
Speaker 2: scare on Day one where he was flipped head over
Speaker 2: heels and didn't practice the rest of the day, but
Speaker 2: he was back out there today and good enough to
Speaker 2: even speak to us with his media availability, So that's
Speaker 2: always a good sign. And fantastic that we have the
Speaker 2: snowman back on the field. But two, Tua was not
Speaker 2: at was on the practice field, but did not participate
Speaker 2: in any drillsm and that means what it means more
Speaker 2: opportunities for the other quarterbacks. And I thought we got
Speaker 2: a good look at both Mike and Skyler and Gavin
Speaker 2: Harrison as well today, and for the two vets, I
Speaker 2: thought it was abundantly clear that there has been some
Speaker 2: progress from both of those guys. For Skyler just being
Speaker 2: in a tough system, right, this is a very difficult
Speaker 2: system to comprehend and understand and play fast within for
Speaker 2: his third year, coming from a college program where his playbook,
Speaker 2: in his verbiage was probably and this is a totally
Speaker 2: educated guests here, but thirty percent maybe twenty percent of
Speaker 2: what it is here, Like in college, it's like four words,
Speaker 2: a wristband, some hand singles, maybe one of those posters
Speaker 2: that has the four pictures on it, and let's go
Speaker 2: ahead and snap the football twenty five seconds left from
Speaker 2: the play clock. So I think you saw some elements
Speaker 2: of the concept of things slowing down a little bit
Speaker 2: for Skyler Thompson. Today, he threw a ball where I
Speaker 2: leaned over to Kyle Crabs and said, have you seen
Speaker 2: Skyler replace the blitz with the football before?
Speaker 1: No, we haven't seen.
Speaker 2: That might be the best ball I've seen Scalar throw,
Speaker 2: and it's just a release valve to a running back
Speaker 2: where he replaces the ball or replaces a blitzing Duke Riley,
Speaker 2: I should say with the football, I mean that's one
Speaker 2: of two a tongue of by Lowe's superpowers, right, Where's
Speaker 2: the vulnerability and how can I put it into that
Speaker 2: space as quick as possible? And with that in mind,
Speaker 2: I spoke to Mike White after practice and I didn't
Speaker 2: get there until late, and I wanted to follow up
Speaker 2: with some questions about him after asking him these questions
Speaker 2: because I hate talking to a player and only asking
Speaker 2: about other guys. But it was last question time. We
Speaker 2: moved on and I did get these two phenomenal answers here.
Speaker 2: And this is why I love Mike White. He always
Speaker 2: gives such great insight to the game and what makes
Speaker 2: this game and that position for that matter, so difficult.
Speaker 2: So let's go ahead and go too for here on
Speaker 2: Mike White on what it's like.
Speaker 1: You know what? I have the question that I asked,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and roll the entire thing. This
Speaker 1: is probably a.
Speaker 2: Last year question, But when you go in the quarterback
Speaker 2: room after a game and you know Two is so
Speaker 2: well known for his anticipation throws in the way he
Speaker 2: sees the field, I'm just curious are there moments in
Speaker 2: those evaluations or reviews where you're like.
Speaker 1: Dude, that was ridiculous. Like I'm curious from your perspective
Speaker 1: because you see to.
Speaker 3: Reading brother, they're so in our in our meeting room,
Speaker 3: Two sits up front, and then me and Sky sit
Speaker 3: next to each other. So there bev is talking coaching
Speaker 3: them up, and there'll be some throws and me and
Speaker 3: Sky are like, won't even say anything. We'll just look
Speaker 3: at each other like how how how like you like
Speaker 3: to think, oh, I probably would have saw that. But
Speaker 3: there's some who are like, yeah, no, I'm I don't
Speaker 3: know if I see it like he does as quick
Speaker 3: as he does. That's what's That's what's I think is
Speaker 3: so impressive as how quickly he sees it. It's like
Speaker 3: he sees it before it happens. It's it's very very impressive,
Speaker 3: and it's so fun to be around and it's it's
Speaker 3: just it's impressive.
Speaker 1: Hundred percent.
Speaker 3: He talks about it, he talks about manipulating guys and
Speaker 3: and it's a lot of a lot of it is
Speaker 3: trust and and Mike talks about it a lot is
Speaker 3: that is the name of this offense is trust. Like
Speaker 3: I need to take my the receivers, trusting us to
Speaker 3: take our correct footworks, throw it on the correct timing
Speaker 3: in the correct spot to one not get them killed,
Speaker 3: and two get the ball in the right space so
Speaker 3: they can carry it in the yack that that Mike
Speaker 3: always talks about. And then it also goes to them too.
Speaker 3: We need to trust them that they're gonna run the
Speaker 3: right route, they're gonna cross face, and we're expecting across
Speaker 3: face and the countless reps you see to a throw
Speaker 3: right at a guy that if you paused it, it looked, oh,
Speaker 3: that's for sure gonna be a pick. And then there's
Speaker 3: Jalen or there's Tyree crossing face and so it's it's
Speaker 3: it's impressive by everyone involved, and it's so minute and
Speaker 3: it's like it looks they make it look so easy
Speaker 3: when in like, if you're around it, you know all
Speaker 3: the hard work that goes into it.
Speaker 2: So that first part where he discusses, you know, watching
Speaker 2: Tua's film reviews, and it reminds me so much of
Speaker 2: the Josh McCown content I've referenced on this podcast a
Speaker 2: million times, and how he would watch Kurt Warner in
Speaker 2: the same situation that Mike Whitesham right now, he's the
Speaker 2: backup behind the starter right and watching it saying like,
Speaker 2: how the hell are you seeing that?
Speaker 1: Bro?
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of like the everyday relation here
Speaker 2: is it kind of how humans perceive color differently.
Speaker 1: I think that might be it. My wife and I
Speaker 1: we don't.
Speaker 2: See colors like the one color through my eyes versus
Speaker 2: through her eyes are different, right, Like what I think
Speaker 2: is cherry red. She sees it as mahogany and a
Speaker 2: quick funny aside for you guys. And it's kind of
Speaker 2: like attached to a bit of a morbid story, but
Speaker 2: it's it is funny.
Speaker 1: Trust me.
Speaker 2: It's been years now, so please don't feel bad. But
Speaker 2: it was it my mom's few and the guy who
Speaker 2: was setting everything up and kind of running the show
Speaker 2: like the run of show, like you know, the rundown
Speaker 2: of what we're going to do that day, as it were,
Speaker 2: we asked all the guests to wear purple ties because
Speaker 2: my mom's favorite color was purple. Like she decorated the
Speaker 2: entire house purple, kind of like breaking Bad Marie and
Speaker 2: Hank Schrader's house all in purple. Right, So my brother
Speaker 2: and I arrive on the day and meet with him,
Speaker 2: and we're somber, right like it's our mother's funeral. And
Speaker 2: he points to his tie and says, hey, guys, don't worry,
Speaker 2: I got you. I am color blind, but my wife
Speaker 2: helped me find my purple tie. Well, first of all,
Speaker 2: the wife lied to you, bro, because he points to
Speaker 2: this tie and it's one thousand percent a gray tie.
Speaker 2: The way my brother and I laughed when we were
Speaker 2: done with that conversation after he like walked off to
Speaker 2: do his next task, Like was a much needed laugh
Speaker 2: that day. And quite frankly, it's the biggest memory I
Speaker 2: have of that day, which is a good thing, right,
Speaker 2: It's a positive memory. So that's a long winded way
Speaker 2: of saying, that's how I see it. For quarterback visions.
Speaker 2: Some people can see that purple. Some people look at
Speaker 2: it and it's great and there's nothing you can do
Speaker 2: to change that. And there's that's where I think a
Speaker 2: lot of the quarterback discussion and discourse that is, oh gosh,
Speaker 2: it's ugly out there where it kind of gets lost
Speaker 2: in the sauce, because to me, that is the most
Speaker 2: important trait for a quarterback. How do you see the field?
Speaker 2: Because nothing else matters if you can't see it. And
Speaker 2: that's where I think Tua is as good and in
Speaker 2: my opinion, the very best, like Matt Stafford's right there,
Speaker 2: probably the very best in the league, and why I
Speaker 2: think he's comfortably a top ten quarterback in this league.
Speaker 2: So Mike White also touched there on how he takes
Speaker 2: from that and how it kind of benefits the entire offense.
Speaker 2: You've heard him discussed that, you know, the timing of it,
Speaker 2: how impressive, but how minute it looks. I just think
Speaker 2: it was really good commentary there from a quarterback and
Speaker 2: a guy that who do you want to talk ball
Speaker 2: with more than a quarterback? Right, Like they see the
Speaker 2: field from every perspective. And I was talking to Kyle
Speaker 2: Krabs about this, like how tough it is to watch
Speaker 2: these practices when we have you know, twenty five storylines
Speaker 2: or camp Battle's Brewing and I'm like, man, I'm trying
Speaker 2: to get my personnel right. I'm trying to get the
Speaker 2: formation right. I'm trying to like id the defense. He's like, Hey,
Speaker 2: that's what a quarterback does every play. I'm like, you
Speaker 2: know what, Yeah, you're right. What what these guys do?
Speaker 2: I don't think I don't think most fans understand, Like
Speaker 2: it is a lot of mental checking of box. And
Speaker 2: so when you say why would you throw that pass, like,
Speaker 2: go back there and try and see what you come
Speaker 2: up with. So it's you know, I love getting perspective
Speaker 2: from that guy because you're just not going to top
Speaker 2: the football knowledge of that guy. And I thought Mike
Speaker 2: was pretty sharp today. Mike call it his his best
Speaker 2: day from two days of training camp, you know, paired
Speaker 2: with the OTAs we got back in May and June,
Speaker 2: and he got the day started off right with the
Speaker 2: throw to alec Ingold up the sideline on a wheel
Speaker 2: route for what would have been a long touchdown. It
Speaker 2: was on seven on seven, so you know, grain of salt.
Speaker 2: But I think if you asked Mike, the throw came
Speaker 2: out a little bit flat, like it was kind of
Speaker 2: didn't get enough arc on it. Because do you guys
Speaker 2: remember the specific ted Gin catch in the back of
Speaker 2: the zone in the two thousand and eight finale to
Speaker 2: beat the Jets and win the AFC East when ted
Speaker 2: Gin caught like the very back of the football and
Speaker 2: was a millimeter away from dropping it. That's kind of
Speaker 2: what this one looked like from my vantage point, like
Speaker 2: Alec full extended arms, snares the back of the football
Speaker 2: and takes off up the sideline. And to me, that
Speaker 2: was like the first play of practice was kind of
Speaker 2: like McDaniel being like, all right, weave, yeah, mffer, you
Speaker 2: want to run all these games and blitzes and get
Speaker 2: after our qbs two through four. Well, here's a wheel
Speaker 2: to the fullback, So choke on that, sir. I thought
Speaker 2: it looked good when White dialed up reek or waddle
Speaker 2: over the middle of the field on time and in rhythm.
Speaker 2: So improvement for the quarterbacks. But in general, the defense
Speaker 2: really did kind of they kind of took it to
Speaker 2: the Dolphins offense for the second straight day. And I
Speaker 2: want to close this first segment talking about who I
Speaker 2: think has been the star of all the whole complent
Speaker 2: of two practices so far, in linebacker Quinton Bell, because
Speaker 2: I thought he was probably at a good today as
Speaker 2: he was yesterday. And I was explaining to Kyle once
Speaker 2: again how great I thought he looked, and Kyle's like, well,
Speaker 2: don't talk about him on your podcast, because I might
Speaker 2: talk about him on Lockdown Dolphins. And so there you go,
Speaker 2: confirmation of someone uppear you respect their opinion. Saw the
Speaker 2: same thing, and again nothing better than being like, man,
Speaker 2: I think Quentin Bell had some juice to and then
Speaker 2: he makes a play and it's like, yeah, that's exactly
Speaker 2: what happened right there. So he was working as the
Speaker 2: force defender, where he's essentially what the force defender means
Speaker 2: is you have to get outside, like if the ball
Speaker 2: gets outside of you, there's nobody else left like the
Speaker 2: contained defender, right, And then he sees it and cuts
Speaker 2: off the outside angle. The back sees that and reacts
Speaker 2: by cutting it up into the B gap and he
Speaker 2: works back over the top of the block and makes
Speaker 2: the stop and comes off the pile or the tag
Speaker 2: off like fired up, which tells you he thought he
Speaker 2: made a great play. He makes another play where he
Speaker 2: comes from depth where he's like peeling off in the
Speaker 2: curl flat and what that means is you're in coverage
Speaker 2: curl flat is the flat is like behind the line
Speaker 2: of scrimmage, beyond the numbers, like the perimeter of the field,
Speaker 2: and then the curl is just like five yards beyond
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage on that same portion of the field.
Speaker 1: So you're covering.
Speaker 2: Wide and it's within proximity of the line of scrimmage
Speaker 2: is the curl flat zone. So he's working that and
Speaker 2: there's a play where the back has to bubble because
Speaker 2: Zach Seeler once again is in the backfield and forces
Speaker 2: the back to widen his track. Which what does that do?
Speaker 2: It allows better pursuit ankles for your second level defenders.
Speaker 2: And so that's why I like, And this isn't a
Speaker 2: total aside, but that's why it's not about who makes
Speaker 2: the player who doesn't like. Sometimes there's plays made that
Speaker 2: you don't necessarily see. I remember Devon Godshaw was this way,
Speaker 2: like he would break through and then force a player
Speaker 2: to change direction or track. I'd be like, what a
Speaker 2: great play by Godshaw, And then you know people on
Speaker 2: Twitter be like, that's not a great play.
Speaker 1: You make the tackle. What are you talking about?
Speaker 2: Like, you can make plays that aren't you know, getting
Speaker 2: the ball carrier to the ground.
Speaker 1: So Quentin Bell is on this play.
Speaker 2: He comes from depth and comes way downhill and just
Speaker 2: takes the play completely out out of the equation, takes
Speaker 2: the running back off the off of his feet. To
Speaker 2: be quite honest with you, he didn't have a sack
Speaker 2: like yesterday, but I thought his run defense was solid
Speaker 2: all day long. It has me looking into his career
Speaker 2: in the past and going back through some old tweets
Speaker 2: and Falcons fans were like huge fans of this guy
Speaker 2: breaking camp a couple of years ago, thinking he was
Speaker 2: gonna have a big impact.
Speaker 1: I think he got hurt that year.
Speaker 2: And so I had a chance to speak with Quinton
Speaker 2: one on one about his career journey, what it meant
Speaker 2: to him to be features one of those guys in
Speaker 2: the practice squad Camo jerseys last year on Hard Knocks
Speaker 2: he won that a few times, and just about his
Speaker 2: performance so far. Let's go ahead and roll my chat
Speaker 2: with Quentin Bell. You were frequently in the Camo jersey.
Speaker 2: What did you learn from that experience of getting that
Speaker 2: type of attention as a guy that was really helping
Speaker 2: the team, you know, give the opposing offense.
Speaker 1: A good look.
Speaker 4: Definitely. I mean when I got here, my main goal
Speaker 4: was to work extremely hard and just continue to get
Speaker 4: better and perfect my craft and show these coaches that
Speaker 4: if my number was ever called, that I would be
Speaker 4: ready and I could help the team. And getting those
Speaker 4: Camos jerseys, it's a little bit extra motivation to know
Speaker 4: that my work is being recognized and that it's appreciated. So,
Speaker 4: like I said, my main goal was to come out
Speaker 4: every day and me befrcting my craft is ultimately helping
Speaker 4: the team, So that was my goal.
Speaker 2: Is that kind of a collection of where your career
Speaker 2: has gone to date in terms of you You've been
Speaker 2: the guys had to grind and work your way onto rosters, right,
Speaker 2: so like you learn from the entire experience to what
Speaker 2: it can impact you now.
Speaker 1: With the Dolphins in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean my main goal is just to always
Speaker 4: get better, and I think that I've been able to
Speaker 4: do that every single year. Is get a little bit
Speaker 4: better every single year, and I definitely think that here
Speaker 4: I just continue to carry that same aspect and getting
Speaker 4: that same mindset and this opportunity that presented yourself this year,
Speaker 4: I saw it and taking full advantage of you know,
Speaker 4: came in off season and worked hard and had to
Speaker 4: get OTA's and just kind of carried it over chaining camp.
Speaker 1: So this is just my podcast.
Speaker 2: There's a Dolphins podcast here and from watching the stands,
Speaker 2: I see fifty six making a lot of plays. Is
Speaker 2: that an accurate assessment? And what's empowered you to be
Speaker 2: so productive through two days?
Speaker 4: Oh man? Just effort and juice. Man. I, like I said,
Speaker 4: there's a big opportunity for me. I'm here on this
Speaker 4: team this year and I wanna take full advantage. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna give it everything I have and leave every single
Speaker 4: thing I have on the field. And one thing that
Speaker 4: I can be able to say that the fifty six
Speaker 4: was one hundred percent? What's that?
Speaker 1: What's the feedback then for your teammates and your coaches
Speaker 1: so far?
Speaker 4: For I'm pretty good, pretty good. There's always if you
Speaker 4: can work on, always, if you can improve on every
Speaker 4: single day. You know, nowhere near hitting my ceiling, trying
Speaker 4: to get better every day, but definitely games is a
Speaker 4: pretty good feedback.
Speaker 2: I would say, do you think your versatility is a
Speaker 2: big thing for the defense in terms of being able
Speaker 2: to you know, play hand in the dirt, stand up,
Speaker 2: and do all different stuff off the edge.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, the more you can do, that's the biggest saying,
Speaker 4: the more you can do. So I definitely want to
Speaker 4: show the coaching staff that I could do a little
Speaker 4: bit of everything.
Speaker 1: So we heard klays Cam, We'll talk about how this
Speaker 1: defense is.
Speaker 2: You can you can give them any look from any
Speaker 2: you can give them any rush or any plan from
Speaker 2: any look. Right in terms of the versatility of it,
Speaker 2: How does that really benefit what you do while you think.
Speaker 4: Like I said, the more you can do, I think
Speaker 4: that just yeah, yeah, coach leave defense is amazing, man,
Speaker 4: and so many things we could do. So just showing
Speaker 4: them that I can do a lot as well. You
Speaker 4: can plug me anywhere. I think I'll impact the game
Speaker 4: and I have a positive impact on the defense.
Speaker 5: So definitely great stuff.
Speaker 1: Quick Bill, appreciate your time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there he goes and to a t right
Speaker 2: Dolphins player is respectful of the media's time, of my
Speaker 2: time and just really good dudes all across the board.
Speaker 2: So there you go, Quentin Bell. Great start the training
Speaker 2: camp so far. I freaking love stories like Quentin Bell.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to watch him continue going here into
Speaker 2: joint practices against the Falcons, eventually a game and more
Speaker 2: joint practices, and we'll see if he can earn his
Speaker 2: way onto the fifty three men roster. Let's go ahead
Speaker 2: and take a break right there, come back on the
Speaker 2: other side, get to the rest of the practice notes
Speaker 2: and storylines. All of that is next on the Draft
Speaker 2: Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you by Autoation.
Speaker 2: We pick it back up and segment two with the
Speaker 2: pass catchers and Tyreek Hill made the catch of the day,
Speaker 2: and frankly, I wasn't sure what happened when I wrote
Speaker 2: this play out here, but I had a chance to
Speaker 2: go to our video team and watch what happened, so
Speaker 2: you might have write about it. Tyreek caught a long
Speaker 2: pass to end practice and he runs this vertical route
Speaker 2: on Ethan Bonner, who was step first step, by the way,
Speaker 2: and it made me think, like no wonder. Tyreek calls
Speaker 2: White lightning one of the fastest players on the team.
Speaker 2: He's seen it up close and personal with a guy
Speaker 2: that can match him on a vertical route, which ninety
Speaker 2: five percent of the NFL cannot do. So it's a
Speaker 2: great rep for Bonner. And I thought he was in
Speaker 2: great position all day today and really had a good day.
Speaker 2: But when the ball descends back to the earth. Originally
Speaker 2: watching this thing, I thought Bonner picked it and then
Speaker 2: Tyreek comes away with the football and I'm like, did
Speaker 2: that ball just like go through his hands or what
Speaker 2: happened there? And actually Bonner laid out and had it
Speaker 2: in his hands and then bobbled it and Tyreek caught
Speaker 2: the deflection and it was a great concentration catch by
Speaker 2: Tyreek to tap the feet keep it in and he
Speaker 2: was just fantastic all day. But Bonner's gonna think about
Speaker 2: that play until we strap it on again tomorrow because
Speaker 2: he was right there and had a big pick off
Speaker 2: of Tyreek Hill in coverage, but just didn't quite finish
Speaker 2: the play for Tyreek.
Speaker 1: I mean, he lines up. This is what's so cool
Speaker 1: about Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 2: I feel like he's kind of back to twenty twenty
Speaker 2: two in terms of like practice effort, if that makes sense,
Speaker 2: not that he didn't not that he wasn't giving effort
Speaker 2: last year.
Speaker 1: I don't want it to be the takeaway.
Speaker 2: From the store, but like we know, they've they rotate
Speaker 2: receivers through different lineups, to give you different looks and
Speaker 2: different matchups and play with different quarterbacks and line combinations.
Speaker 2: But like he's out there catching balls from Gavin Hardison
Speaker 2: with you know, Ireland Brown as the center, like all
Speaker 2: these guys that are udfas trying to figure out what
Speaker 2: is next for them in their careers. And I thought
Speaker 2: it was kind of cool because Gavin struggled again to
Speaker 2: begin practice and then they got a couple of easy
Speaker 2: completions at Tyreek Hill and you kind of felt some
Speaker 2: confidence bring off of that, which just shows you how
Speaker 2: valuable Tyreek Hill is for a quarterback. And then there's
Speaker 2: Jalen Waddle in a continuation from yesterday, and he caught
Speaker 2: more footballs off his frame, plucking the ball off his hands.
Speaker 1: He looks more explosive, he looks a little bit bigger
Speaker 1: than me.
Speaker 2: I've also he's made two diving catches in two days
Speaker 2: and those were kind of the ones that like would
Speaker 2: eat him up last year. Right, Somebody asked me on Twitter,
Speaker 2: what's what's changed about him? I'm not going to tell
Speaker 2: you on Twitter because you got to come to the
Speaker 2: podcast to get the insight, like in depth, you know insight.
Speaker 2: Here he's catching he's not letting the ball like fall
Speaker 2: into his bread basket. He's not elevating for balls that
Speaker 2: he catches at the numbers. It's all hands and we
Speaker 2: saw that all off season in the videos he posted.
Speaker 2: He's catching everything with his hands now, and I think
Speaker 2: he's gonna I think he's gonna go freaking.
Speaker 1: Nuclear this year.
Speaker 2: Speaking of nuclear, maybe not that much, but I teased
Speaker 2: a tight end going off today in the open and
Speaker 2: it's Tann O'Connor. He first caught my attention well yesterday
Speaker 2: with his performance. But on top of that, they did
Speaker 2: an extensive kickoff session where they're going through this new kickoff,
Speaker 2: which just is so weird and it's gonna be so
Speaker 2: weird once the season gets here because it's just so
Speaker 2: foreign to what we're used to for the NFL. But
Speaker 2: one player kept on breaking through and being the first
Speaker 2: one down there on the tackle or the tag off,
Speaker 2: and it was number eighty, and it got me thinking
Speaker 2: about his rookie year when they clocked him at like
Speaker 2: twenty one miles per hour covering a kickoff in that
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay game. And he caught a bunch of balls
Speaker 2: today and he keeps finishing these balls by these catches
Speaker 2: rather by running them into the end zone. And there
Speaker 2: was one that I think was actually a legit long
Speaker 2: touchdown run where he rumbled through some traffic and then
Speaker 2: ran away from two defensive backs. How many tight ends
Speaker 2: do you know, David Nijoku maybe who run away from
Speaker 2: defensive backs.
Speaker 1: So I just think that he's he.
Speaker 2: I know he was a high priority UDFA as a rookie,
Speaker 2: kind of fell out of favor after some drops and
Speaker 2: then has had an injury last year. But that's a
Speaker 2: guy that I would not be surprised if in four
Speaker 2: months we're looking back and being like we this was
Speaker 2: a major addition to our tight end room. Speaking of
Speaker 2: major additions, we saw what kind of impact upon a
Speaker 2: Chan could have last year and today was a continuation
Speaker 2: of OTAs and day one of training camp catching Texas routes,
Speaker 2: running routes from the slot, full passing game involved in
Speaker 2: for a chan going to be a screen weapon for us.
Speaker 2: He caught this Texas route where he caught it and
Speaker 2: there was I think it was Anthony Walker closed down
Speaker 2: to like put what would have been probably a big
Speaker 2: collision in a game, but he like in one motion,
Speaker 2: caught the football got into the spin move and then
Speaker 2: was running full speed like a step later for a
Speaker 2: long touchdown. Like it doesn't make sense when I watch
Speaker 2: him move, you know what I mean, Like it is
Speaker 2: just so alien to the human experience.
Speaker 1: The way Devon ah Chian runs is it's it's like
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill. It really is.
Speaker 2: Tyreek is one of one, but apparently not because I
Speaker 2: kind of feel like a Chan's He's in that category now, man,
Speaker 2: it is. It is something to behold. It was, as
Speaker 2: I'm sure you've heard from the other Beat writers, another
Speaker 2: rough day for the offensive line, but it was even
Speaker 2: more of a skeleton crew today, Like they lined up
Speaker 2: initially with Keon Smith and Lester Cotton on the lineup
Speaker 2: and Kendall Lamb wasn't out there for that group, and
Speaker 2: Ireland Brown had a rough day snapping the football and
Speaker 2: you know, sent one over the quarterbacks head. At one point,
Speaker 2: Gavin Hardison lost a fumble in exchange with the running back.
Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of guys.
Speaker 2: That I don't think you're gonna see in September that
Speaker 2: are playing in these reps right now. It's kind of
Speaker 2: a slow build up here for camp. Like Andrew Meyer,
Speaker 2: the UDFA got positively dog walked by Zack Skiller a
Speaker 2: few times. Like, is that something that you're going to
Speaker 2: stress about. Is Zach Steeler beating a UDFA rookie offensive
Speaker 2: lineman something that gives you pause for the season, because
Speaker 2: to me, it's like, there's Zach getting his reps his
Speaker 2: work in right this one though, Leah Miikenberg was on
Speaker 2: the ground a few times, which which is a familiar
Speaker 2: place that hopefully is not the case come September.
Speaker 1: And then I saw Bidon Matt.
Speaker 2: Doos get put on his butt once, where I was like,
Speaker 2: there's some there's some work to be done there and
Speaker 2: the technique and stuff. So yeah, just a lot of
Speaker 2: guys on the ground and get knocked around a little bit.
Speaker 2: Good pass rush, good pursuit, good run defense. I will
Speaker 2: say this though, watching Patrick Paul, it's so obvious that
Speaker 2: this dude worked his butt off in the off season
Speaker 2: because he looks just completely different in his comfort level
Speaker 2: getting into his past sets and when he's right, it's
Speaker 2: just so easy and effortless because of the physical skills
Speaker 2: that he has and just the overall size of he feature,
Speaker 2: Like I just look at what he's done here and
Speaker 2: an Ota is compared to the Houston tape, where it
Speaker 2: was pretty ugly most of the time, and it's pretty
Speaker 2: easy to see that he's been working on this stuff.
Speaker 2: He had some good work in the running game. I
Speaker 2: like the way he finds work on runs away from him.
Speaker 2: One of the parts of outside zone is you know,
Speaker 2: if you run outside zone to the right, your left
Speaker 2: tackle might not have a block just because of the
Speaker 2: way they flow. And he always finds a way to
Speaker 2: find work and I think that's a very impressive trait
Speaker 2: for a young man. And then the guy that has
Speaker 2: sort of been business as usual from last year or
Speaker 2: for the last year, I should say, is Austin Jackson.
Speaker 2: Another solid day locking things down. He just looks so
Speaker 2: comfortable and in command with his set and then with
Speaker 2: his hands and went to fire that punch. He talked
Speaker 2: a little bit about the team today, the defense and
Speaker 2: how a new defense is giving him new looks which
Speaker 2: ultimately helps his game.
Speaker 5: It's a lot of competitive energy on defense on offense
Speaker 5: as well. They're getting effort.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 4: We like that good.
Speaker 5: Energy on you know, learning new movements and a new
Speaker 5: defense do a lot of things well, so it's good
Speaker 5: to study what they do, and you know, work on
Speaker 5: getting better. That's what we have ten practices for well
Speaker 5: before joint practice.
Speaker 2: I mean, so you heard two soundbites there. I just
Speaker 2: kind of talked to him, like house camp, going how
Speaker 2: you're feeling. The original question I asked him was what
Speaker 2: makes you say that about this team? Because he told
Speaker 2: me I think we're looking at a really great team here,
Speaker 2: And I said, what made you say that? And he
Speaker 2: says the competitive energy they feature. And then he talked
Speaker 2: about how this defense, as you heard, can help the
Speaker 2: offensive line kind of get you know, new looks and
Speaker 2: prepare new techniques and strategies for how to defend different
Speaker 2: types of defenses. Speaking of familiar faces, how about the
Speaker 2: two days here for Emmanuel Ogba shows up, has a sack,
Speaker 2: plays the run well, gets the orange jersey, and the
Speaker 2: ox cord comes back today does more of the same.
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and hear from Emanuel Ogba on his
Speaker 2: start to camp and the decision to come back to
Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 6: You know, I came in with her mind said, I
Speaker 6: onant to be better, you know, want to improve this.
Speaker 6: So that's the mindset come in training. I mean, he
Speaker 6: came down to two teams, and I just and I
Speaker 6: picked my own because I feel like I have unfinished
Speaker 6: business here, so that's all. I'm excited to be back.
Speaker 2: You're damn right, you do you man? Unfinished business is right.
Speaker 2: He sounds like a man on a mission. Really hope
Speaker 2: that he can pay that off with his performance this season.
Speaker 2: All right, let's go ahead and take our second break
Speaker 2: right there, a little bit loer today. I know we
Speaker 2: didn't have QB one, so that kind of changes things.
Speaker 2: We'll come back on the other side and finish up
Speaker 2: the notes and do the extra points. That's next Draft
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Speaker 2: Let's get back into the defensive notes here and move
Speaker 2: back to the second level of the linebackers. I thought
Speaker 2: Jordan Brooks and Anthony Walker for the second straight day
Speaker 2: were really good, really really good, especially Anthony Walker Junior.
Speaker 2: He was all over the field. He got upset with
Speaker 2: himself at one point because he didn't quite have the
Speaker 2: proper depth to impact the throw over the middle of
Speaker 2: the Tyreek hill, but he did get his hands on one.
Speaker 2: He also deflected a pass that I thought could have
Speaker 2: been picked by Elijah Campbell for his second pick of
Speaker 2: the day. But I'm not gonna ask a player to
Speaker 2: let a ball go past his helmet because he can't
Speaker 2: see what's going on behind him. But he made his
Speaker 2: presence felt in the middle. I thought, Jordan Brooks, you know,
Speaker 2: just frequently in the backfield running down some of the
Speaker 2: speed stuff for the perimeter. I just think we have
Speaker 2: like these three linebackers who are really really good professional
Speaker 2: linebackers who all kind of offer something different in David Long,
Speaker 2: Jordan Brooks, and Anthony Walker. It should be fun to
Speaker 2: see how the rotation sorts itself out. And on that
Speaker 2: same note, I just don't I don't think it's clicking
Speaker 2: for changing Tyndall Man, Like it is slow to react
Speaker 2: and he made a play today and everyone kind of
Speaker 2: lost their their mind on the sideline and that's and
Speaker 2: it wasn't like a crazy play. He just got like
Speaker 2: a pass breakup, and it's like that's kind of shows
Speaker 2: you the expectation, right Like it just hasn't. It just
Speaker 2: hasn't really clicked for him. I don't think it's clicking
Speaker 2: right now, and I don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just that's that's it is what it is.
Speaker 2: So let's go ahead and go back to the starters
Speaker 2: though and talk about these guys, because I asked Yvon
Speaker 2: Holland about Walker and Brooks and he talked about how
Speaker 2: they're in pact has been so far. But he was
Speaker 2: asked to follow up about Jordan Brooks and how his
Speaker 2: leadership and his mindset and kind of what he features
Speaker 2: in terms of like personality, what he's like being around,
Speaker 2: and Javon kind of gave us an answer on that.
Speaker 2: In the entire linebacker room here is Dolphins safety Javon.
Speaker 7: Holland him as a person. He's quiet off the field,
Speaker 7: real reserves, but on the field, you know, he's making calls,
Speaker 7: making checks, making sure we're all on the same page.
Speaker 7: So it's really everything you look for in a linebacker.
Speaker 7: All four of those guys, like every one of them
Speaker 7: has a thing that they're really good at and they
Speaker 7: help each other grow as a group. So I'm loving it.
Speaker 7: They're they're great, their coach is great. I love the
Speaker 7: way that they're you know, approaching his defense. It's really
Speaker 7: making it easy for me.
Speaker 2: Jovon also touched on his buddy and safety counterpart, Elijah Campbell,
Speaker 2: who had a fantastic day. He had a pick where
Speaker 2: he undercut a throat to Durham smythe and gosh, the
Speaker 2: way Durham went to the ground in that corner route
Speaker 2: like I don't know, I like the way Jody Fordson
Speaker 2: runs that route or Tanner Connor runs that route. Definitely
Speaker 2: like the way John Smith runs that route. So Elijah
Speaker 2: undercuts the throw and makes a leaping catch and tapping
Speaker 2: his toes on the inbounds to make the play really
Speaker 2: impressive pick. I also had him in the notes where
Speaker 2: they would run these rout combinations with Waddle and Hill
Speaker 2: where it's they have done it for three years now,
Speaker 2: where they like a vertical and a crosser and he
Speaker 2: just maybe he knows this.
Speaker 1: So his knowledge of the defense is what's tipping him off.
Speaker 2: But it allows him to play fast because he kept
Speaker 2: running these things off and kind of being the reason
Speaker 2: why the quarterback wouldn't pull the trigger on those situations.
Speaker 2: So really good day for Elijah Campbell. I think it
Speaker 2: showed open some impact plays. Let's go ahead and go
Speaker 2: back to Javon Holland to hear about Elijah Campbell.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, he's just gotten the reps honestly, like
Speaker 7: you know, the years past, he's kind of like focused
Speaker 7: on like gun or whatnot. He's kind of been in
Speaker 7: and not really been in. But like this past, in
Speaker 7: like new regime, he's gotten the reps and he's like
Speaker 7: you know, instilled the confidence and now he's like really
Speaker 7: starting to pick up. So I love playing with.
Speaker 2: Him finishing up here with the extra points. I think
Speaker 2: Ryan Hayes has had himself a couple of nice days here,
Speaker 2: the former Michigan tackle and seventh round draft pick in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, was it yeah, yeah, he said, in
Speaker 2: a nice couple of days at the tackle position. Now,
Speaker 2: I do think we have the same exact separation issues
Speaker 2: with some of the same guys from last year, like
Speaker 2: Barrios getting strapped by Siran Neil yesterday. Saw some more
Speaker 2: of that today where it's just like we can't you know,
Speaker 2: there's no separation in a quick manner and from that
Speaker 2: inside position, from a two or three alignment, you have
Speaker 2: to get open quick. And that is true for the
Speaker 2: tight end too. With Durham Smith, who that corner route
Speaker 2: he fell to the ground. It just it led to
Speaker 2: a pick. It kind of reminded me of the Claypool
Speaker 2: route last year in the Buffalo game, which is like,
Speaker 2: I know, PTSD, but a great play by Campbell for sure,
Speaker 2: great play by Taylor Rap last year to make that pick.
Speaker 2: But let's just let's just sharpen that rat up a
Speaker 2: little bit there, a little bit, And you know, I
Speaker 2: think that the hope is that with Beckham, Johnny and
Speaker 2: Malik and more a chan you can alleviate that. But
Speaker 2: we didn't have John who today and Odell's on out
Speaker 2: there obviously, so it's gonna happen when you get into
Speaker 2: the depth in the passing game. Chop and Cam Brown
Speaker 2: both met the quarterback once again today and it was
Speaker 2: cool to see them get there by the same route
Speaker 2: you would expect, like Chop ran past the tackle and
Speaker 2: Cam ran through the tackle, go for a meeting at
Speaker 2: the quarterback, kind of like the Sue and Wake sack
Speaker 2: on Bryce Petty a few years ago. They didn't hit
Speaker 2: him like that, but that's how fast they got there.
Speaker 2: Cater Co, who had two pass breakups late in practice,
Speaker 2: one really impressive one where he was in a full
Speaker 2: sprint transition back downhill to get back down the stem,
Speaker 2: got around the receiver without pulling or tugging and punch
Speaker 2: the ball away. That's the feisty cater Co who I
Speaker 2: fell in love with us rookie. I thought it was
Speaker 2: biz as usual for Zack Seeler. Stack him up, shut
Speaker 2: him down, make those plays in the backfield. He is
Speaker 2: just you can set your freaking watch to Zach Sealer.
Speaker 2: And that's how I'm gonna end the podcast today. Again,
Speaker 2: not crazy amount of like pop on the show. I
Speaker 2: understand that we're talking about a lot of depth pieces here,
Speaker 2: but that's what you get here. Man. I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna talk about contracts and what's you know,
Speaker 2: that's just not what we do. Haround drive time, full
Speaker 2: practice reports and talk to the guys about what happened
Speaker 2: on the practice field, and we'll say this storyline stuff
Speaker 2: for the offseason and when there's not actual football to
Speaker 2: talk about, so we will talk about to it when
Speaker 2: the time comes, and we'll get his performances broken down
Speaker 2: here just kind of like I want to talk about
Speaker 2: Elijah Campbell more than I want to have a fourth
Speaker 2: straight day of two his contract. Maybe that's not for you,
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe that's maybe that's not what you want. And
Speaker 2: if that's the case. Then there's other podcasts out there
Speaker 2: for you, right, but just letting you guys know, we're
Speaker 2: gonna break down football on this podcast. And that's all
Speaker 2: I've got for you today. We're back tomorrow and then
Speaker 2: we're off Saturday. Before you, Manias, make your way out
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