Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Welcome back all the smoke, Las Vegas Summer League twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three, coming to you live from the Blue Wires
Speaker 2: Studio again here at the Beautiful.
Speaker 3: Wind Hotel.
Speaker 4: Jack.
Speaker 2: We got another good one. I've been chasing this dude
Speaker 2: down for many over. You're playing with his buttons, pressing
Speaker 2: the cough button brought Yeah, an good.
Speaker 4: I'm solid. I see y'all's light up.
Speaker 2: I'm like minding like no, Welcome to the show, Emon Sheppard, Dog,
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. What's uh life like now for a
Speaker 2: retired NBA player who is multifaceted in other.
Speaker 4: Things, acting, rapping, all kind of.
Speaker 2: Break dancing, on dancing, break up for all the other
Speaker 2: athletes that ever want to go on that show?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's correct. What's life like?
Speaker 3: What's been going on with you?
Speaker 4: I'm I'm chilling. I'm just I guess I'm just working.
Speaker 5: Like with me, I'm just always taking challenges, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. So when contractually it didn't make sense,
Speaker 5: I'm like, well, let me see if I can match
Speaker 5: whatever that contract is and still like be around my kids.
Speaker 5: More so, I've just been trying to find outless that's like, yeah,
Speaker 5: we can do stuff. I can still feel creative, feel
Speaker 5: like we progressing every day. And then I feel like
Speaker 5: I could still be around my family, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, because I'm like, it really didn't make sense
Speaker 5: to like I can't work out twelve months trying to
Speaker 5: stay right, and it's like, bro, I don't even know
Speaker 5: what team I'm playing for. I don't know what role
Speaker 5: I'm in. I don't know none of this, and I'm
Speaker 5: like chasing. I'm like, bro, I can't do it, and
Speaker 5: like deal with my children and my wife and like
Speaker 5: our lives and schedules. So I'm just like right now
Speaker 5: just focusing and taking it one day at a time
Speaker 5: with like whatever come my way.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna be like that, you know how.
Speaker 5: You know how it is as NBA players, though, we
Speaker 5: get all type of opportunities, and I just be like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I ain't doing that. I don't care, bro, I feel
Speaker 5: to go put that thing, you know, And I think
Speaker 5: now it's just like that that that Jim Carrey movie
Speaker 5: where he just started saying yes, I'm just like.
Speaker 4: I'm like whatever. But Dancing with the Stars, my mom
Speaker 4: was like, I love that show all right, cool, let's
Speaker 4: try you know what I'm saying, since.
Speaker 2: You brought that up, talked to us because you were
Speaker 2: the was it the only athlete or the first athlete
Speaker 2: has some guy first.
Speaker 3: NBA guy to go on there, and like really?
Speaker 2: I was like yo, because I didn't even watch the show,
Speaker 2: and people start talking about you seeing what he minds
Speaker 2: doing on this show, and I went tune in.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, Bro's really out here working life.
Speaker 2: Talk to us about that experience and where your your
Speaker 2: your dancing background came from?
Speaker 5: I really don't. I don't have a dancing background. I
Speaker 5: think that's how we won. I think it was quite
Speaker 5: obvious when I came on the show, like I have
Speaker 5: no clue what I'm doing.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. You get the point of
Speaker 4: some wife, she's the one with that, you know.
Speaker 5: But what's crazy when people don't understand my wife, Like
Speaker 5: my wife, I don't know where she does.
Speaker 4: The practice part. You don't never see it, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Like she'll say like, oh, I gotta do this, so
Speaker 5: I got to perform and do this, and I'll be like, well,
Speaker 5: let's go like rent the studio so you could like
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, And.
Speaker 4: She could just do stuff on the spot.
Speaker 5: So even with like dancing, like she could pick up
Speaker 5: the tango and tell me on the phone, like you're
Speaker 5: supposed to be sharp, you're supposed to be like this
Speaker 5: doing that, but it's like my body won't conform to
Speaker 5: that without.
Speaker 4: Two three weeks of practice.
Speaker 5: So it was like no point in calling her because
Speaker 5: she made it like it's damn easy for her. So
Speaker 5: I like focus on talking to her when it's time
Speaker 5: to perform, like she understands performance and saying like I'm like, yo,
Speaker 5: bab I ain't i ain't really too confident on how
Speaker 5: this look or how this. She like like, well that
Speaker 5: you need to lean on your personality or you need
Speaker 5: to you know what I'm saying, don't look down on
Speaker 5: these moments when the camera swing and do this and
Speaker 5: you notice an eight count, always try and find the camera.
Speaker 4: Stop looking down at the floor. And you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, makes for.
Speaker 6: Any of them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So it's like I had a good performance at
Speaker 5: times I might not have been yeah, technically because it's
Speaker 5: by them. It's like if you if you touch your
Speaker 5: your heel on the floor, it's like that's a deduction
Speaker 5: on points. So it's like sometimes I did do it wrong,
Speaker 5: but it's like I had fun. I smiled a lot,
Speaker 5: I gave a performance. So it's like the fan at
Speaker 5: home couldn't tell. They just voting, Like I like that
Speaker 5: he having fun. I feel like it was more so
Speaker 5: like leaning into Like the rest of the world is
Speaker 5: also the same way, like we.
Speaker 4: Wouldn't know what we're doing, but we would have a
Speaker 4: good time.
Speaker 5: If I was anybody on that show, I'll be one, Well,
Speaker 5: I don't know what I'm doing. Yeah, when I'm having fun,
Speaker 5: like I'm at the cookout with it, like that's all
Speaker 5: I tried to lean on, Like what would I do
Speaker 5: if my auntie them was out here, like have a
Speaker 5: good time?
Speaker 4: You know, I'm saying that's all I could do.
Speaker 2: We heard that the perdem bump is a little heavier
Speaker 2: than what we used to get. They say it's thirty
Speaker 2: five hundred person of the ar a little bit higher
Speaker 2: than what we got.
Speaker 4: What where's this fun fact? From what we like?
Speaker 2: Twelve was like a sixty Yeah, and the twenty one
Speaker 2: you interviewed and spoke that you said you were able
Speaker 2: to save half of your NBA contract money. Where did
Speaker 2: that financial literacy? And I guess the business of basketball
Speaker 2: come from early on with.
Speaker 5: You, I put together a great financial team. Early on,
Speaker 5: I had I had a financial advisor, I had my accountant,
Speaker 5: and like my brother's asshole, Like it was just like
Speaker 5: you say, That's why I brought him on the podcast.
Speaker 4: He just called bullshit.
Speaker 5: And when we went into it, I remember my brother saying, like, yo,
Speaker 5: you you got drafted.
Speaker 4: You had no money, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: You hosted little events or whatever, and you made money
Speaker 5: to like be cool and still like be able to
Speaker 5: like function, So he like, you really could function broke
Speaker 5: bro like you've been, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 5: it's like that point he kind of never let me see.
Speaker 5: Like if I ever was getting one hundred and fifty
Speaker 5: thousand dollars whatever check it was on my rookie scale,
Speaker 5: I don't know what it was per two weeks. I
Speaker 5: had mine on the twelve month, so it was like,
Speaker 5: I don't know how much every two weeks, but I
Speaker 5: was only seeing half of it. I think in my
Speaker 5: mind that's all I had, like cause you know, we
Speaker 5: had the lockout year by the time we started. It
Speaker 5: was like so many games. I'm like, bro, I can't
Speaker 5: spend Yeah, I can't spend no money. I'm tired in.
Speaker 4: Four games and five nice.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't remember that no what I thought. We
Speaker 5: went out there, I had to guard I guarded Rondo,
Speaker 5: then d Rose and I had Darren Williams. I'm like, bro,
Speaker 5: back to back to back. I'm like, bro, I can't
Speaker 5: even remember my hotel room, no book. You see what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. I'm like, I can't spend no money. So
Speaker 5: it was like my whole career. I just kept it
Speaker 5: like that. I'm like, bro, I don't even want to
Speaker 5: see half of it and bout it. But later on
Speaker 5: he like, yeah, we're just gonna sing you this per
Speaker 5: month as a budget.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You say, that's hard to do because you have to
Speaker 2: make sure, like you said, it was your brother, but
Speaker 2: make sure you have someone that you could really trust
Speaker 2: with that kind of like you said, I didn't even
Speaker 2: know who my check was. And I was been speaking
Speaker 2: in the Rookie Transition program just about understanding the business
Speaker 2: of the business, you know what I mean, and watching
Speaker 2: your money.
Speaker 3: What is something you would give to these younger players.
Speaker 2: Now with so much money on the line, these contracts
Speaker 2: are astronomical and now all the off the court stuff
Speaker 2: that is just common that we really had to grind for.
Speaker 2: What are some some tips on the financial side you
Speaker 2: would give some of these younger players.
Speaker 5: I would say to think about what you actually need,
Speaker 5: Like we all like make this mistake because it's it's
Speaker 5: the financial freedom that throw you off. It's like you
Speaker 5: go for whatever. Yeah, you just it's like we never
Speaker 5: could do none of this stuff. So it's like sometimes
Speaker 5: you doing it literally just because you have it right.
Speaker 5: And I guess my advice would be to think smart.
Speaker 5: When you play in a city, you're not from that city.
Speaker 5: You don't know if you want to marry that city.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like, don't buy a house
Speaker 5: for every team you play for. And you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, like rent that house, Like actually go out
Speaker 5: and look around and see where you want to live.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, make an educated guess on that,
Speaker 5: because I just seen guys that got like before they
Speaker 5: know it, they got four houses.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, what and you don't know why?
Speaker 5: Like I was playing here, I got a house, then
Speaker 5: I got traded. I'm over here and I got a house,
Speaker 5: and then I got an off season house over here
Speaker 5: just because it's warm there. It's like, you can't do that.
Speaker 5: Like I feel like, little by little, you know, it
Speaker 5: just catch up to you and you're not gonna notice
Speaker 5: because you're playing.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So if I could advise them to do anything, it's
Speaker 5: just like one be smart with knowing that every city
Speaker 5: you play for, that's a temporary thing. One in Oak Park,
Speaker 5: Illinois talk about Jeb bringing bro I know what it was,
Speaker 5: but a lot of people don't know. It's mine is
Speaker 5: simple though. It's like it's four boys under one house.
Speaker 5: Like my dad did his best to say, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, y'all gonna be under this house. Y'all
Speaker 5: gonna be something. Y'all gonna do something at all times.
Speaker 5: Like we ain't really have a lot of idle time.
Speaker 5: I want to say, I ain't really have idle time
Speaker 5: ever in my life because I was so busy trying
Speaker 5: to be my dad and be in the busybody you're
Speaker 5: supposed to have responsible, you know how it is. Man's
Speaker 5: trying to put that me in like hey, bro me
Speaker 5: and don't move like that, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: Like you ain't even outside all day like what you own.
Speaker 5: It's like so it's like I'm just outside all day, nigga,
Speaker 5: Like that's just what I'm on.
Speaker 4: I like to be outside.
Speaker 5: I like to work at whatever I'm trying to get accomplished,
Speaker 5: and I don't like being around nobody that don't want
Speaker 5: to do that, you know what I'm saying. So it's
Speaker 5: like I kind of kept myself out of trouble just
Speaker 5: from like like really playing basketball for real, Like that
Speaker 5: really kept me out of trouble.
Speaker 4: Otherwise I'm I'm left. I'm a left kid for sure.
Speaker 5: But knowing that the game gonna do that for you,
Speaker 5: Like the game finna keep you so on point because
Speaker 5: you want to win, you want to play everybody.
Speaker 4: You want that competition.
Speaker 5: Like that's all I think about when I think about
Speaker 5: my upbringing was like Dawg, I literally let a ball
Speaker 5: take me around the city and raise me.
Speaker 4: Joe. I like know the city literally like mAb's known
Speaker 4: me from.
Speaker 5: Like dude used to be coming into my alley hooping
Speaker 5: like early in the morning, dude there or walk.
Speaker 4: Over here for sure.
Speaker 5: With that basketball, you're gonna come over here tripping every day,
Speaker 5: like real talk like him and his buddies, they just
Speaker 5: got into it with them over there, but they just
Speaker 5: want to hoop all day like and we're gonna see
Speaker 5: everything we got to see. So like when I go
Speaker 5: home now, like when I'm in Old Park, like going
Speaker 5: to Johnny's sitting down, like people be.
Speaker 4: Like messed up looking at me, like bro.
Speaker 5: He just outside Like but I'm just like, bro, Like
Speaker 5: I'm always gonna feel like connected to the city in
Speaker 5: that way, like if I could always eat on top
Speaker 5: of the hood of my car.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I should always be able to like hold my daughter's
Speaker 5: hands and walk around and mys like, should be able
Speaker 5: to respect it, like I get it. Yeah, I might
Speaker 5: want to take a picture. I might wo wop the
Speaker 5: fand but it's like he with his daughter's like you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, good to see you, dog, Like
Speaker 5: I always.
Speaker 4: Want to stay there. That's what I think about it.
Speaker 4: When I grow up Chicago.
Speaker 7: A lot of legends coming from out of there Illinois
Speaker 7: for basketball, d Wade, Isaiah Thomas, dead Rose, any of
Speaker 7: anybody you looked up to when you was coming up.
Speaker 7: As far as who wise, Yeah, Isaiah Thomas d Wade
Speaker 7: was always one of my favorites. D Rose even though
Speaker 7: like de Rose was just a year ahead of me, Like.
Speaker 5: Dude, you know what I'm saying, Like, Dude inspired a
Speaker 5: lot of shit, you know what I'm saying for Chicago,
Speaker 5: Like it was just he was one of the only
Speaker 5: ones that it was like, bro, it's in his DNA.
Speaker 5: He never gonna shy away from it. He keep it quiet.
Speaker 5: He don't even say too much, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: Like it's easy to root for him. Uh So, Like naturally,
Speaker 5: because we was out West and they was out South,
Speaker 5: Like naturally, mobs would try and like keep me against them, like, bro,
Speaker 5: you gotta you gotta kill him when you see him
Speaker 5: type shit. So it was like I was overly hyped
Speaker 5: to even play Dude in the league, but it was
Speaker 5: like finally getting to meet dude and going against him
Speaker 5: and everything like that. I'm like, bro, he just one
Speaker 5: of my most favorite like respectable guys, like just want
Speaker 5: to hoop. He don't bother nobody, he don't say nothing.
Speaker 5: Like we talked about him not having emotion all the time.
Speaker 5: So that was cool. Other than that, though, like I say, shit,
Speaker 5: Twan too, like.
Speaker 3: You forget how good walker.
Speaker 4: Bro cyber Twin was a real thing.
Speaker 5: Eight it's a real thing, like that's NBA Live two thousands,
Speaker 5: like this, this is a real thing. Or was it
Speaker 5: ninety nine that he was going It was ninety nine
Speaker 5: that he was on the cover.
Speaker 4: I can't live but bro, yeah that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: That's that dog man like.
Speaker 5: But it was just cool because back in the day,
Speaker 5: like Twin took me out, like you know, we talk
Speaker 5: about all the time stuff like all the money problems
Speaker 5: and stuff. Part of my financial literacy came from watching
Speaker 5: that telling me at the bowling alley, like.
Speaker 4: What it is.
Speaker 3: This was after he had lost it or yeah, okay.
Speaker 5: Yeah this is my like later high school years, but
Speaker 5: this is like when it's coming out. Everybody talking about
Speaker 5: it all gonna lost some money or just spent too
Speaker 5: much or doing and he just kind of had a
Speaker 5: real conversation with me, like because even when they was
Speaker 5: talking about him losing it, he still was like this
Speaker 5: generous guy.
Speaker 7: He didn't shy away from it. You still can't talk
Speaker 7: to him, You're still gonna see him like he embraced.
Speaker 5: It was crazy, Like it was like and he'll still
Speaker 5: pay for the dinner for everybody, like they saying he
Speaker 5: did broke, and but it was like dog he still
Speaker 5: would come and pay for dinner and would still talk
Speaker 5: to people's smile, take pictures, and he just kind of
Speaker 5: like gave me game on it, just like how it
Speaker 5: feel good and if you want to do that, if
Speaker 5: you if you champion that in your heart, didn't do that,
Speaker 5: but think about this on the backside, I didn't, like
Speaker 5: I didn't get to you got a chance. You're gonna
Speaker 5: be on your way there, like you got a chance.
Speaker 5: Like he definitely like took his time to tell me that.
Speaker 5: And it was like all the Chicago influence though, like
Speaker 5: all them guys pat Bell will b you know.
Speaker 3: The environment everybody. I love that straight.
Speaker 5: Up, even though even though it'd be like your whole life,
Speaker 5: you're gonna definitely rival with niggas like.
Speaker 7: You they love off the court, straight up, straight up
Speaker 7: and actually from the same hometown.
Speaker 4: I love that.
Speaker 3: Now we got to get one.
Speaker 2: Me and twem been playing back and forth on Instagram
Speaker 2: for like three years, so Toe, we need you on
Speaker 2: the show through.
Speaker 7: You played at Georgia Tech three years now our brother
Speaker 7: damn start the mines. The new coach now Georgia which
Speaker 7: is beautifratulations. Yeah, any memories and tough matchups from being
Speaker 7: at g Tech.
Speaker 5: Malcolm Delaney, Malcolm Delaney remember him fucking headache.
Speaker 3: De text A C A C C.
Speaker 4: Ty Res Rice?
Speaker 2: Remember that name was me off? Where was he at?
Speaker 2: He played at Tyre That was Darius Rice? You no
Speaker 2: BC he so was well Tyrese Rice. I'll never forget that.
Speaker 2: This is my biggest memory of somebody.
Speaker 5: Like, it's not too many people that do stuff in
Speaker 5: a game that.
Speaker 4: I feel like.
Speaker 5: Like in my mind, I know when they did it,
Speaker 5: Like I have no response. You feel I'm saying how
Speaker 5: low key and fucked up and I can't say it.
Speaker 5: But you just like the first time PAULP. Pierce did
Speaker 5: it like a barely an in and out and pump
Speaker 5: fake pump fake pump fake and then shot it dead
Speaker 5: in my face, I was like.
Speaker 4: Like I did everything. There's nothing I could do.
Speaker 5: A lot of guys like his body is sideways, like
Speaker 5: I can't like it's either he makes or misses that.
Speaker 4: But he shot that too easy, you know, what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Like Tyrice.
Speaker 5: Rice did some shit where he would get the ball
Speaker 5: in the corner and most people get the ball on
Speaker 5: the corner with a live dribble and no matter if
Speaker 5: it's live dribble or not. Something about me playing defense
Speaker 5: on them intimidated that man took the ball and like
Speaker 5: put it through his legs, held it back and just kind.
Speaker 4: Of stared at me ready type shit, and.
Speaker 5: I was like I was guarding it, and at first
Speaker 5: I was like moving around. Then I realized he's not moving,
Speaker 5: He's not adjusting to anything I'm doing. He just holding
Speaker 5: it up and like my first stab at it, he went.
Speaker 5: He walked straight to the line. He just dropped the ball,
Speaker 5: walked to the line, and it bothered me, like like
Speaker 5: even talking about it right now, it's it's like it's
Speaker 5: bothering me.
Speaker 4: And then Malcolm Delaney was another one.
Speaker 5: He was the first that was James Harden before James
Speaker 5: hard game. Malcolm Delaney knew how to get ten free
Speaker 5: throws a game and I couldn't understand it.
Speaker 4: I would shoot like two three free throws a game.
Speaker 5: I was not trying to flop for a four with
Speaker 5: try and dunk everything I'm gonna try and finish everything.
Speaker 5: I don't want to look soft because my father watching
Speaker 5: the game, Malcolm Delaney would sit at the free throw line.
Speaker 5: He had games where he shot fifteen free throws and
Speaker 5: I was like, damn, that's crazy. Headache and Georgia say
Speaker 5: other than that, though, I used to score thirty on
Speaker 5: North Carolina because they recruited me and didn't promise me
Speaker 5: point guard, so I used to get him or walking thirty.
Speaker 3: In college, you played one or two.
Speaker 5: I played one, played combo though, like we had times
Speaker 5: where they bring movef on, you don'fi.
Speaker 4: In and move on. Would play point.
Speaker 5: I pushed to, yeah, and you have like me and
Speaker 5: Glen Rights Junior running the two and the three, like,
Speaker 5: well we really didn't, you know, we were just playing
Speaker 5: wings at that point. But mostly yeah, I played point guard.
Speaker 5: That's what Paul, you would wanted.
Speaker 4: Twenty eleven, you get drafted seventeen, Kyrie, why they play? Yeah?
Speaker 4: What was that class? Like? What was that experience with
Speaker 4: all those guys?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 4: Man, we had. I feel like we had a hell
Speaker 4: of a draft class. Dog. I didn't feel to get
Speaker 4: drafted that ship, you know how that is? Man?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was that's the first time I ever passed out.
Speaker 4: Of my life. Bro, really passed. I passed out to
Speaker 4: that night we had.
Speaker 8: What you had, but you was yeah probably just yeah
Speaker 8: I did. I was on I couldn't eat. I couldn't
Speaker 8: eat all day. Nervous.
Speaker 4: I was nervous. Yeah, like it was crazy, Like my
Speaker 4: like legs was like.
Speaker 2: Moving because you don't strike me as a motherfucker to
Speaker 2: be getting nervous.
Speaker 4: Dang. I was sweating like I was tweaking.
Speaker 5: And then my whole family came, like they end up
Speaker 5: inviting me to the draft like the day before type, yeah,
Speaker 5: it was last minute.
Speaker 4: We had to climb. I ain't go.
Speaker 5: I said, my ship right to the crib and yeah
Speaker 5: we had. We was at the taco spot. Joe and
Speaker 5: my whole family came. Everybody came. They said my name,
Speaker 5: do almost passed what I did? End up passing out.
Speaker 5: But I'm like, because I really was finna go out
Speaker 5: when he said it, but like I was like registered it.
Speaker 5: And then my mama. I remember my mama hav ingim
Speaker 5: having me. And as soon as I felt my mama
Speaker 5: right here and I heard her year, I just went.
Speaker 4: Out for a second.
Speaker 5: And my brother was like, Nigga, you know you said
Speaker 5: that wake up to wake up and then you were.
Speaker 4: See me on you It's on YouTube, Joe.
Speaker 5: If you look on that, Joe, you'll see my eyes
Speaker 5: like reregister where I'm at, like, oh ship.
Speaker 3: When we got when this comes out, we'll make sure
Speaker 3: we put that.
Speaker 5: Bro like you go see me, I'm in there thing
Speaker 5: like oh ship, I really we really it's that's it.
Speaker 5: That's the end of the role, like the feel me
Speaker 5: we in there like he said it that Nigga had
Speaker 5: to reread. He was like, mo, I said, oh shit,
Speaker 5: said it shoddy. Then next day I found out New
Speaker 5: York boomed me. Y'all bogus, y'all bogus. Just hell, they said,
Speaker 5: they booed me. That's why I played the whole first
Speaker 5: like a month and a half. Oh, I was mean
Speaker 5: as hell. New York thought I was like trying to
Speaker 5: hype the crowd up. I was disrespecting them. I was like, man,
Speaker 5: I ain't even from him. Fuck y'all like I felt
Speaker 5: a way, But it was like good for me because
Speaker 5: they was like, hell, yeah, we love it.
Speaker 4: Fuck them, say yeah, say whatever you woke to us.
Speaker 5: They like, long as you do that pick up ninety
Speaker 5: four you picking people pocketed duck.
Speaker 2: Curse us out talk about obviously the draft process of
Speaker 2: being seventeen, but to go to a historical freshise such
Speaker 2: as the nick.
Speaker 5: Man that shit I say that was that was a
Speaker 5: learning experience for me because it was like I had
Speaker 5: never dealt with like people. Really I wasn't like a
Speaker 5: media person, Like nobody really ever gave a fuck what
Speaker 5: I had going on, Like nobody was bothering me. Yeah,
Speaker 5: Like when I got to the Knicks, like that was
Speaker 5: the first time I was like, I go out and
Speaker 5: mys was like, oh e mom was out last night.
Speaker 4: I was like what No, Yeah, I'm like, what the
Speaker 4: fuck is that? Page six? What? I'm like, what is that? Bro?
Speaker 5: Like how all my coaches know everything I do every day? Like,
Speaker 5: but it was like I had never dealt with that.
Speaker 5: I never dealt with the media caring about something other
Speaker 5: than scoring of basketball, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Like it was a learning experience for me.
Speaker 5: And luckily I had Mellow, I had Tyson Chandler, I
Speaker 5: had Rashid come to next year, Jason Kidd, like Baron Davis.
Speaker 5: I had all these guys like kind of like guide
Speaker 5: me through that because they understood, like you don't know yet,
Speaker 5: but this market, this media, they like, Dog, you don't know,
Speaker 5: but you play for the.
Speaker 4: Knicks like they know you in the world.
Speaker 5: You feel mean, like like it's Knicks fans and Argentina
Speaker 5: right down, like like.
Speaker 4: They're gonna cheer for you. Ain't gonna win ship, they gonna.
Speaker 9: Chip at New York. That wasn't me New York.
Speaker 5: That wouldn't mean, that wouldn't mean we got y'all to
Speaker 5: the second round. You know, we had some makeups, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean. Paul George happened.
Speaker 4: Paul George George, that boy happened. That's another one.
Speaker 5: I'm like, I ain't never seen a nigga that could
Speaker 5: move like this with a straight.
Speaker 4: Up back, right, how can you move?
Speaker 3: It almost looks stiff but fluid, if that even makes sense.
Speaker 5: It's like, Dog, you look like you're finla fall and
Speaker 5: then you're a jumping wind millet. I'm like, bro, that's insane.
Speaker 5: You look like you off ballance, like when my back
Speaker 5: go stiff like that. Yeah, I'm finna put on the break.
Speaker 5: Y'all played above the rims. I don't know nothing about that. Well, yeah,
Speaker 5: we better take the elevator for you take through steps.
Speaker 5: It's a different ball game with dud Man. So you
Speaker 5: get the roller with that back. You're gonna get off
Speaker 5: the floor though. That's what we're making it crazy, like
Speaker 5: you really get off the floor.
Speaker 2: That get off the floor, like get off the floor
Speaker 2: in the rim, quick, in the rim, quickly, fast quick.
Speaker 2: You mentioned some of the vets. We're gonna talk about
Speaker 2: them befirst. We want to start with the mayor. Baron
Speaker 2: bart o'tmeill Davis all legends talk to us about beds
Speaker 2: because hey, hey, hey, we was fellowshipping before we started
Speaker 2: the show and Jack was just on some random ship
Speaker 2: mentioned Bear's name and he mine ran from like one
Speaker 2: corner to the uther corner, just laughing.
Speaker 3: That's the expression we.
Speaker 4: Like to give with BD.
Speaker 5: Baron Davis is like, you know, it's a it's a change,
Speaker 5: like he's one of the most I would say he's
Speaker 5: one of the most well rounded people.
Speaker 3: For these eight different people.
Speaker 4: In ten minutes, my man would give you.
Speaker 5: Street etiquette, dinner etiquette.
Speaker 4: Like gang bang bang like life experience.
Speaker 5: Gonna blend all those conversations into fifteen minutes and I'd be.
Speaker 4: Like dog just every time you come back in the room,
Speaker 4: you just on the way somebody else.
Speaker 5: And it's like for some reason at some point during
Speaker 5: the season, like people was laughing, but I was like,
Speaker 5: it's even funnier because you're making a lot of sense.
Speaker 4: He is not acting though, This is not This is
Speaker 4: how he really really you like, it's.
Speaker 5: Really you like you're really waking up with these ideas
Speaker 5: and you really want them to come true.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah you did.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, I just I never saw somebody like
Speaker 5: you know how. We'll be sitting down, we'll be like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, we should just bad, we should just make
Speaker 4: our whole movie.
Speaker 5: Santy'll really say that, and they're really going it. Five
Speaker 5: people make a movie, No bake a movie.
Speaker 4: You might not believe in it. No one care about
Speaker 4: the movie. You've seen Domino. I did.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm talking about the world they might have.
Speaker 4: That's his movie, that's his movie.
Speaker 3: It's a movie.
Speaker 2: I'm playing Domino. But he probably started just how you said,
Speaker 2: let's gonna make this movie, and that's how it happened.
Speaker 4: I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it.
Speaker 7: So he'll give you all these ideas and they might
Speaker 7: sound crazy, but I guarantee you two.
Speaker 4: Out of that five. It's a billion dollar project.
Speaker 3: They're gonna work.
Speaker 4: They just sitting in his brain.
Speaker 3: They're gonna work.
Speaker 5: Bro, if you can get the collection of people together
Speaker 5: that can put it, bring it in going down for sure.
Speaker 2: You talked you told us outside the story of Miami.
Speaker 2: Please tell that story in Miami when you kept getting hard.
Speaker 2: All right, Okay, So.
Speaker 5: We playing Miami and uh this one I'm with the
Speaker 5: Knicks and bad came and we used to play where
Speaker 5: a lineup where it would be bed come in, I
Speaker 5: would be in.
Speaker 4: It was like it was a young crew. I just
Speaker 4: know we was.
Speaker 5: It was like we was supposed to play fast and
Speaker 5: Boom was supposed to come in and really like yeah,
Speaker 5: like just do whatever you got because we got a
Speaker 5: small stint where you're gonna get the control to one
Speaker 5: and then we're finna bring Pablo back to change rotate
Speaker 5: like we had a system. So it's like Boom, you
Speaker 5: get to come in and act a fool. So Boom,
Speaker 5: he feeded me, I'm getting hit when I'm going to
Speaker 5: the basket though, you know your dots putting me on
Speaker 5: my ass. You know what I'm saying is they getting
Speaker 5: whatever they could get. Bron being extra d wad be
Speaker 5: an extra cause it's me, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: But it was like they was putting me on the floor.
Speaker 5: I hit the flo or like toward the end of
Speaker 5: the first half, I'm reaching my head up like telling
Speaker 5: beer and to grab me.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like all right, g helped.
Speaker 5: Me up like I'm cool, like you know, letting him
Speaker 5: know like I'm cool, like they found him for my
Speaker 5: free throat.
Speaker 4: Oh the man didn't. He helped me up.
Speaker 5: He stood over me and saying, hey, man, hey, hey,
Speaker 5: just want to get the floor again.
Speaker 4: I'm making hard for y'all in l A. And with
Speaker 4: every every every.
Speaker 5: I just got knocked out the air.
Speaker 4: Helped me up. He took it tough to everybody around
Speaker 4: and forgot to help me. I'm like, dog, I'm.
Speaker 5: Sitting on the floor like and I'm looking around. I'm
Speaker 5: seeing everybody like temperature change. But I didn't get put
Speaker 5: on the floor. On the rest of the game, I
Speaker 5: got fouled, but I did not get put on the floor.
Speaker 5: It was a different type of to l A.
Speaker 10: I'm saying he can do that. He's one person that
Speaker 10: could do that. Yes, you gotta respect so.
Speaker 5: But that was my first side because Baron is like
Speaker 5: the nicest guy in the world. Like Baron will give
Speaker 5: you the clothes off his back. He'll take his shoes
Speaker 5: off for the kids, hand them the shoes and walk
Speaker 5: around his socks for the day. I've seen him stop
Speaker 5: his day and like like some kids too much and
Speaker 5: like go into the CBS and buy bubbles. And now
Speaker 5: I'm like, Baron, we got shooting around here, Like yeah,
Speaker 5: but dog, we have done. We always have time for kids, Doc,
Speaker 5: we always have time for kids.
Speaker 4: Doc. Doc, you're not that young, Doc. At one point
Speaker 4: you were a kid. Doc. Five minutes to get you
Speaker 4: some bubbles, Doc, I would have got you some bubbles
Speaker 4: because I'm Baron Davis. Doc. Yeah, that's how you talk.
Speaker 4: You'll be like bro.
Speaker 5: So in my mind, that's who I'm. That's who That's
Speaker 5: who my dog is. Come on, guy, like help me up.
Speaker 5: That's what I'm thinking, Like, hey, he hit the floor again.
Speaker 5: I'm making hard for y'all. In l A, I said,
Speaker 5: when did you start talking? Like sounds like every l
Speaker 5: A movie I watched, like this is every Friday, It's succession.
Speaker 4: Brome, God, I was like I had never seen but
Speaker 4: it was.
Speaker 5: The transition was crazy because like right after that we
Speaker 5: get on the bench and he's right back to like.
Speaker 4: That calm, nice guy. Like so Bearon Baron Davis is
Speaker 4: a legend.
Speaker 5: If y'all didn't know, man, the chance to sit down
Speaker 5: with somebody to have a conversation, you know what they say,
Speaker 5: what you'd rather do, have a conversation with Jay or Hey, man,
Speaker 5: if they give you that split with Bearon Davis, take
Speaker 5: that beer.
Speaker 4: You gotta take that dinner with him, because you might.
Speaker 2: You might have to pay, but take that. But but
Speaker 2: one thing about the dinner. Would have know one thing
Speaker 2: about the dinner. You're gonna get a bunch of ideas
Speaker 2: get you gonna get the game, You're gonna get the comedy.
Speaker 2: You're gonna get the.
Speaker 4: All in one bro talk.
Speaker 5: And he's gonna give you some gear of whatever. He
Speaker 5: he better give you shirts, towels.
Speaker 4: In the studio.
Speaker 7: Studio so you can hear the unreleased oatmeal, Bro, bar
Speaker 7: oatmeal is a serious thing.
Speaker 4: You released oat millet.
Speaker 2: While be talking about Baron, talk to us about how
Speaker 2: how Nick's tape came to came.
Speaker 5: To Life's low key It was it was we okay,
Speaker 5: so we're all on the bus, right, And we had
Speaker 5: so many personalities on that On that next team though,
Speaker 5: and once we all like kind of knew each other
Speaker 5: and like started laughing at it and our coaches was
Speaker 5: laughing at it. We realized that Mike Woodson like, Bro,
Speaker 5: you got the reins to bullshit, Shortty, like you shouldn't
Speaker 5: have to deal with mellow shit, A Bari shit, Jason
Speaker 5: Kids shit, Rashi shit, my young shit Jr.
Speaker 4: Out every night. It was like that roster. You see
Speaker 4: what I'm saying on paper though, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Like on paper, you looking at it like, oh, they
Speaker 5: live like they finna kill some But I'm like, we
Speaker 5: really was looking at the personalities and they.
Speaker 4: Was like, Yo, we're like a mixtape. This is like
Speaker 4: an an one mixtape.
Speaker 5: G Like we doing shit we ain't even supposed to
Speaker 5: be doing, like y'all throwing double alley oops, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like Ello over here doing the ship
Speaker 5: she came in doing. He like I'm doing three to
Speaker 5: the head this year, Like Nigga was just making shit
Speaker 5: up on the fly. We like, don this ain't even
Speaker 5: like a real thing. Like this Mellow got that.
Speaker 4: She she oh, yeah, she came.
Speaker 5: So they go in and go and get out because
Speaker 5: people think Mellow started Mellow, thank you Mello did that
Speaker 5: and honor she because she and remember he had like
Speaker 5: a knee and a back problem, so New York was
Speaker 5: like thirsty every time she would get in, so she
Speaker 5: was like, every time I hit the three, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: do three to the head. But when he had the
Speaker 5: back problem and he couldn't play, she basically became like
Speaker 5: a coach for us, like he was just that guy
Speaker 5: in our ear giving us everything. He was talking loud
Speaker 5: as hell to the reps whatever. He would always be
Speaker 5: in a warm up. But he knew he wasn't healthy
Speaker 5: enough to play. So Mellow kind of like took it
Speaker 5: for him, like yeah, like we own that. And then
Speaker 5: Ello started doing it like she was doing it, and
Speaker 5: the kids all knew to do it no matter who.
Speaker 4: Hit a three. But then Ello came down. You know
Speaker 4: it's Mellow. He came down Potwood in the corner.
Speaker 5: Everybody was like oh, they like, I'm like, bro, it's Llo, dog,
Speaker 5: what you finla do shortie?
Speaker 4: Like the man with the head Ben did it?
Speaker 9: Dog?
Speaker 5: It's gone with the halo, Bro, Halo man did it? Dog,
Speaker 5: it's over with it. That's gone. That's his now.
Speaker 4: But Mellow was really doing it because exactly because Ello.
Speaker 5: That's what Barn's don't be under like Llo was like
Speaker 5: the coldest leader, cause it was like, dude, I ain't
Speaker 5: never had dude like embarrass me, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Like I've been around some leaders that all really put
Speaker 5: you on front line and like you gotta check him.
Speaker 5: Hold on, bro, real talk grown man, Shortty, like, don't
Speaker 5: do me like that. Ello never did me like that.
Speaker 5: Joe and he I ain't never seen him do Nobody
Speaker 5: on his team like Shorty always took it like I
Speaker 5: could bring more out of myself and help the team
Speaker 5: rather than try and tear somebody down.
Speaker 4: Like even in the media, Dog took so many bullets
Speaker 4: because he knew like he like, man, some don't know
Speaker 4: what's going He don't know. He finna tell this media anything.
Speaker 5: He don't know what's going on, so he'll always just
Speaker 5: put all the responsibility on him.
Speaker 4: I'm like, hello, what is you talking about, Bro? That
Speaker 4: wasn't your father, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I'm asking him, like what are you doing And like
Speaker 5: later on, like once I'm getting older, I'm like, damn, Dad,
Speaker 5: you really did take it for us.
Speaker 2: But the funny party about you saying that, And I
Speaker 2: love hearing that because he has such a crazy rap
Speaker 2: because people don't know how he that they consider him
Speaker 2: a bad team man if you hadn't played with him
Speaker 2: with the way the picture that the picture the media
Speaker 2: tried to pay but he's this and he's that. And
Speaker 2: then to hear that that he's one of the dopest
Speaker 2: leaders because he will take everything on the chest for you.
Speaker 5: And I got to and I got to play with Bron,
Speaker 5: who's another great leader, And to see the difference in them,
Speaker 5: it's like Bron basically could communicate that Bron can give
Speaker 5: you the whole Bible on basketball, like I'll sit down
Speaker 5: with you, give you the whole Bible. Mellow will talk
Speaker 5: ball with you. But he can't tell you how to
Speaker 5: be mellow, and he ain't really trying to. He just like,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna do this because this is my thing that
Speaker 5: I do. And now that you know that I do this,
Speaker 5: this is how you gotta play, It's how you can move,
Speaker 5: it's how we all could be successful. So it was
Speaker 5: like I got I really had a cheat code on
Speaker 5: like being led like man, I literally got to play
Speaker 5: against the arch enemy, like play on the arch Enemies team,
Speaker 5: Like you know what I'm saying, Like y'all really supposed
Speaker 5: to hate each other, but I got to be up
Speaker 5: under dude. Then I get traded to do and I'm
Speaker 5: just like damn, Like I got to see the different
Speaker 5: ways that they lead, which was cool because it was
Speaker 5: like I needed both.
Speaker 2: Amongst the crazy situation you were in the fun you
Speaker 2: were having first team at rookie thirty minutes a game,
Speaker 2: defensive stopper. What was that first taste of the NBA?
Speaker 2: Like I'm here, I'm having fun, but then I'm also
Speaker 2: being recognized.
Speaker 4: For it too.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: I was just aggressive, man like, like I watched like
Speaker 4: like even y'all like Jack.
Speaker 5: No, like I told him when I got in the league.
Speaker 5: I told her, I say, shorty, you were killing on
Speaker 5: my fantasy.
Speaker 4: I used to dry.
Speaker 5: I used to make sure I had him, Like I know, y'all,
Speaker 5: I know y'all last in the draft, dude, but I
Speaker 5: got him already.
Speaker 4: It's early. I'm getting this out the way, like MIBs
Speaker 4: would be looking at me like why you just go
Speaker 4: get Steven Jack.
Speaker 5: Don't even you feel me like one of my guys
Speaker 5: where it was like no, I'm getting Jr. Like off
Speaker 5: the rip, real talk y'all. Finna go get everybody you
Speaker 5: want to get and you don't. That just mean you
Speaker 5: don't play the game enough you'll know what's going on.
Speaker 4: Like that's cool.
Speaker 5: Like if I got these two, I'm good like and
Speaker 5: I had my little people I picked, so it was like, man,
Speaker 5: having having somebody like that when you come to the league,
Speaker 5: It's like, bro, I'm like, man, I just want to
Speaker 5: have dudes like that, like look at me and see
Speaker 5: me Like I had a moment. Yeah, I had a
Speaker 5: moment my first game where Ray Allen stopped his shooting routine.
Speaker 4: Bro, you know me, I'm looking.
Speaker 5: I'm like, Nigga, that's Jesus, Jesus, Jesus.
Speaker 4: Shorty. First off, Shorty ain't missed. Yeah, like he just
Speaker 4: everything Like I'm like this ship is crazy and I'm
Speaker 4: near way early.
Speaker 5: I'm not like four hours before because I'm just thirsty
Speaker 5: as hell for my first game on Christmas Day.
Speaker 4: He's sprint because he's seen me like warming up and
Speaker 4: ship welcome reality. You know what I'm saying, like, he
Speaker 4: just stop this shoot routine. Bro, I'm on the skout report.
Speaker 5: Gotta be I gotta be somebody, so some something, because
Speaker 5: that nigga just ran over here.
Speaker 4: He ain't saying nothing at that time, Boston, Yo. Yeah, now, KG,
Speaker 4: he was violating me the whole game.
Speaker 11: You know from from was talking natty to me on time.
Speaker 11: That's cool, Okag, you made it like real, fucking you
Speaker 11: made the league real.
Speaker 4: Paul was talking insane to everybody, for sure. He don't
Speaker 4: hold back. But I'm gonna tell you something. No, it's
Speaker 4: some funny ship. You know.
Speaker 5: The dude who's sitting right there, that's where he gets
Speaker 5: a lot of attitude and talking and screaming and blocking
Speaker 5: shots when rebounding.
Speaker 4: He get that from him.
Speaker 5: He was the first person in high school around the
Speaker 5: time that was screaming on rebounds, blocker. Get that ship
Speaker 5: out of KG. Suck went to play with him and
Speaker 5: that's where he got all that ship from. Ask him,
Speaker 5: he'll tell you he got.
Speaker 4: That's him.
Speaker 5: That's the big diplomat from Jumping McCoy yep to the
Speaker 5: Big Burn him.
Speaker 6: Him right there, Big I look the Big Burn off
Speaker 6: of Edible of two being fun, heressing babies.
Speaker 3: God, you see it like brethren.
Speaker 5: But I love that, like seeing like being a part
Speaker 5: of that when you're in the league and you get
Speaker 5: to see something that you've seen on T like everybody
Speaker 5: see kg tweak out on TV.
Speaker 4: But to being a to be in a game.
Speaker 5: It's different to be in a game and hit him
Speaker 5: really tweaking and really saying something to like really disturb you.
Speaker 4: Like, I'm like, bro, you really sick. But it's like
Speaker 4: you focusing.
Speaker 5: I can see that your focus is going up as
Speaker 5: you talking this to me, and he steady doing that
Speaker 5: locking in. I'm like, d that's some disturbing shit you
Speaker 5: talking like got everybody feel to let this slide. But
Speaker 5: he just continued. And then I realized by like the
Speaker 5: second time we had played against him, maybe the third time,
Speaker 5: I realized, Oh, he not all the way just talking shit.
Speaker 5: He allowing his team to understand where he's at. If
Speaker 5: they in single coverage, one on one, y'all alone.
Speaker 4: It's all y'all. He ain't on shit lord, he ain't
Speaker 4: on shit lord.
Speaker 5: At first it was just he ain't on shit, Like
Speaker 5: I feel like you disrespected me while I'm handling the ball.
Speaker 5: But then I realized he's saying, you would be clear,
Speaker 5: it's one on one quarterback, boll screen ain't coming yet. Okay,
Speaker 5: this is what they running. But he's saying that how
Speaker 5: he talks. So I'm like, damn, bro, that's wrong. Like
Speaker 5: they know him so well that he's to the defense. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm like, man, you get out here and think this
Speaker 5: man gag banging. This man is real life quarterback in
Speaker 5: this whole defense. And I appreciated that, Like my student
Speaker 5: of the game had to go up, Like I had
Speaker 5: to realize what was going on, Like I can't even
Speaker 5: be aggressive on the ball in certain situations when I
Speaker 5: got an over communicative as big man behind me, Like, bro,
Speaker 5: this nigga is telling every I can't do nothing. I
Speaker 5: gotta stay solid this whole game. Like so it was
Speaker 5: like I learned, Yeah, I learned from shit like that,
Speaker 5: like coming to there and like seeing y'all profession even
Speaker 5: just like seeing y'all do shit, Like you know, when
Speaker 5: everybody got the scout report that I was gonna strip
Speaker 5: down and everybody just start han faking or they start
Speaker 5: doing this and just taking the foul. It was like
Speaker 5: all that shit meant something to me because I'm like,
Speaker 5: they really haven't a justice, Like they know, they literally
Speaker 5: know we're playing against him today. Like I just watched
Speaker 5: film on this nigga for three hours. He hasn't done
Speaker 5: that one time. And instinctively the first play, this figure
Speaker 5: got a foul on me just doing that. I'm like,
Speaker 5: he know who I am.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. But that was like, like
Speaker 4: we said the respect thing.
Speaker 5: I'm like, that's that's all I ever wanted from the league,
Speaker 5: Like for a motherfucker to feel like I got to
Speaker 5: deal with dude today.
Speaker 4: I got it out.
Speaker 5: I don't know if they're gonna run a play for him,
Speaker 5: I don't know if he gonna hit a shot. I
Speaker 5: definitely got to deal with dude today. I got a
Speaker 5: boogie with him, you know what I'm saying. I always
Speaker 5: wanted that. As long as I had that, I felt
Speaker 5: like I was gonna be successful.
Speaker 2: First round of the Playoffs twenty twelve touring ACL. Coming
Speaker 2: off a great first campaign. You actually returned in six months,
Speaker 2: which is crazy, but talked about your journey, the mental
Speaker 2: process and in the grind of being here, having such
Speaker 2: a good first year, being hurt and then that climb back.
Speaker 4: For me, it was tough.
Speaker 5: I feel like, looking back on it, when I blew
Speaker 5: my wheel, I ain't really know it was gonna be
Speaker 5: a uh a situation that could like change my position.
Speaker 5: Like when I got hurt, I'm like, boom, I'm finna
Speaker 5: come back. The man was gonna put that ball right
Speaker 5: back in my hand. We right back at the PG
Speaker 5: we finished, you know what I'm saying. But it was
Speaker 5: like when that happened, we signed Raymond Felton, pop up
Speaker 5: Pricky Oni j kidd over there, it was like shitty
Speaker 5: Mark just played him at combo and.
Speaker 4: Then it was like, next thing, I knew I was
Speaker 4: guarding the three.
Speaker 5: Then they're like, man, you could guard a four because
Speaker 5: everybody was a step off four, So they like, man,
Speaker 5: he guarding four us.
Speaker 4: Then I was like he three and D, Like what
Speaker 4: the fuck is that? Indeed, like three and what nigga,
Speaker 4: what the fuck is you talking about. I'm like, bro,
Speaker 4: don't play that much.
Speaker 5: D ain't much that much defense in the world to
Speaker 5: call me a three and D guy Like I damn
Speaker 5: near like took it like that.
Speaker 4: But when I look back on it, I'm like.
Speaker 5: That acl thing like literally in the league, everything is
Speaker 5: opportunity and situation. You know what I'm saying, It's just timing,
Speaker 5: like for us to win, that's what I had to
Speaker 5: conform to. And I feel like, uh yeah, going through
Speaker 5: going through that, like when I when I look back,
Speaker 5: I just wish like.
Speaker 4: I would have.
Speaker 5: I don't know, kept kept training as if I was
Speaker 5: point guard. I feel like I like allowed them to
Speaker 5: like yeah, like after after a couple of years, like
Speaker 5: I didn't want to dribble, no, more like dribble Like
Speaker 5: who the want to.
Speaker 4: Off screens now? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, my body was like used to it now, and
Speaker 5: I was like it was weird for me because I'm
Speaker 5: like this ain't natural, but I'm now accustomed to. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm like in a habit. Like after eight dribbles, nigga,
Speaker 5: I feel like I'm doing too much. It's like, bro,
Speaker 5: I just took a couple of dribbles, Like really, you're
Speaker 5: supposed to keep alive dribbled the whole time if you
Speaker 5: re guard like I used to be like that, and
Speaker 5: my whole mindset changed. So I feel like maybe just
Speaker 5: I don't know, I almost was too obedient, like I
Speaker 5: should have recognized like bro, you've had five coaches in
Speaker 5: five years, like, do your thing that got you here.
Speaker 5: But I was like every coach, I'm like trying to
Speaker 5: be the best player. Yeah, I want to be coachable.
Speaker 4: I want you to like me.
Speaker 5: I don't want you to feel like I got here
Speaker 5: and I'm disrespecting that NBA logo Like I'm like, no,
Speaker 5: like I could do whatever you say. But I was
Speaker 5: just like, damn, I wish I would have stayed on
Speaker 5: that because it's like, afterwhile I adn't want to dribble,
Speaker 5: I didn't want to jump off one foot no more
Speaker 5: because they were telling me that could protect my ac.
Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, it was weird, But I ended
Speaker 5: up saying like a lot of the shit that I
Speaker 5: did go through it helped for the championship. Shit Like
Speaker 5: if I didn't blow my knee out, I'd have been
Speaker 5: a totally different ball game on that championship team, Like
Speaker 5: I would have totally.
Speaker 4: I was totally more sick in the head when I
Speaker 4: was the rookie.
Speaker 5: Yeah you know what I'm saying, Like I totally was
Speaker 5: not coachable at the end of a game, like I
Speaker 5: would have felt like in my heart, like no, this
Speaker 5: is my turn mellow.
Speaker 4: I had the moments, so I'm like, Mellow, I'm.
Speaker 5: Gonna give you this, bitch boy, I really want to
Speaker 5: shoot this really really bad, but I'm gonna give you this.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna give it to you because you a hundred million,
Speaker 4: hundred million.
Speaker 5: You see, it was a rookie contract, A hundred percent
Speaker 5: want to shoot this, and I feel like going through that,
Speaker 5: acl going through all that, I start realizing, like, gee, honestly,
Speaker 5: no matter what y'all throw at me, the only thing
Speaker 5: I dreamed about was an NBA championship. So however, I
Speaker 5: gotta get it. I'm feeling my role. Yeah, I'm feeling
Speaker 5: do it. When I say this name, it is somebody
Speaker 5: who who is my real brother. We talked to a lot.
Speaker 5: I talked to a lot. You know.
Speaker 7: He constantly give me my problems on how the beginning
Speaker 7: when he come into the career, his career. I showed
Speaker 7: him how to move and do these things. When I
Speaker 7: say his name, just give me the first thing that
Speaker 7: you think they'll come to your mind, Jared Smith.
Speaker 4: That's like dog like I.
Speaker 5: Ain't never had like nobody like you know, I might
Speaker 5: be like, hey, what's up twin, Like like if I
Speaker 5: had to like have an NBA twined up bro like
Speaker 5: dude never turned down a one on one like I
Speaker 5: got into it with him, Like it's to the point
Speaker 5: like we had such a close like bond period as
Speaker 5: far as like they want to hoop, like and they
Speaker 5: want to hoop, they want to play fast, we want
Speaker 5: to get up and down, we want to learn, we
Speaker 5: want to do this. It was like Ji carried a
Speaker 5: young spirit because I think he carried an even younger
Speaker 5: spirit when I when he had to deal with me
Speaker 5: in New York, because he like, yeah, like I get
Speaker 5: what he on was because I was young.
Speaker 4: I came in and y'all was on some.
Speaker 5: Old ship with me. I wanted the older nigga to
Speaker 5: do what I wanted to do. Like so he kind
Speaker 5: of like was helping me out with that part of it,
Speaker 5: like I know what you want to do, Like you're young,
Speaker 5: you want to you still want to come here?
Speaker 4: You feel me?
Speaker 5: Like that was always swish And then like as I watched,
Speaker 5: because you know, I watched him have to deal with
Speaker 5: like people saying all this like negative shit on his name,
Speaker 5: it was like this, I don't know, it's like a
Speaker 5: black cloud that everybody was like, dude, it's like a
Speaker 5: bad person or some shit, Like damn. There was so
Speaker 5: much of excuse me, so much in New York that
Speaker 5: I was like, I started a little like feeding into
Speaker 5: it a little bit, like.
Speaker 4: Damn, this dude, Really I need to tell my dog
Speaker 4: to like tighten up.
Speaker 5: But I'm like, nah, because when I'm going to pick
Speaker 5: him up, bro, he you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 5: he got his kids, don't like talk about when he
Speaker 5: got his little kids with him, He got all of
Speaker 5: them with him. Then he got his nephews with him too, like,
Speaker 5: and they going shopping and getting skateboards and doing all
Speaker 5: this all day, and him and his father and his
Speaker 5: mother they all having that. I'm like, bro, they got
Speaker 5: like a scheduled like family lifestyle like and y'all talk
Speaker 5: like this dude is like the worst.
Speaker 4: Person in the world on the outside look at and
Speaker 4: he's disrespectful.
Speaker 5: I'm like, bro, I've never seen him disrespect our coach.
Speaker 5: I've seen him run through the wall for us for
Speaker 5: no reason, you know what I'm saying. Like, we throw
Speaker 5: this man a ticking time bomb all game. Every time
Speaker 5: the shot card get low, we throw it to him.
Speaker 5: Because don't nobody else want to mess up. They percentage
Speaker 5: and for you and make.
Speaker 4: It and say thank you. Nerve to say good past.
Speaker 5: Be like nigga, Like if y'all go, I want y'all
Speaker 5: to go. Look at where Cleve we played in the garden.
Speaker 5: Me and Jayon came back.
Speaker 4: We was in Cleveland.
Speaker 5: I threw this man oop Joe because he went back door.
Speaker 5: I seen it here talking about break past tape.
Speaker 4: What that over last? Push it out. I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 5: The past made him be great heat.
Speaker 4: It was an awful path. You'd have been pissed off,
Speaker 4: Like you know, I don't jump like that with the
Speaker 4: winnows stands with me.
Speaker 5: It laid it up and looked at me like come
Speaker 5: on man, I was gonna go up and get that way,
Speaker 5: but I ain't jumping for that. Like that's what I
Speaker 5: felt like when I threw the past, Like damn, that
Speaker 5: was so terrible. Yeah, he finish grabb it and just
Speaker 5: have to he sayd.
Speaker 4: I say, bro, you're gonna say good pass for that.
Speaker 4: I hugged him, laughing like that was awful past, Like
Speaker 4: it was awful.
Speaker 5: It was sick, but like I always love playing with Swiss,
Speaker 5: because Swiss was like the dude that like I said,
Speaker 5: it was like twin shit, like like that double Alley
Speaker 5: we was, we be thinking the same shit, Like we
Speaker 5: really be thinking the same shit. Like he like, shit,
Speaker 5: if you say that shit like shit, if I'm in
Speaker 5: with you, tape, just throw it to the other end.
Speaker 5: You get what I'm saying, Like, if you saving the ball,
Speaker 5: don't even like try and find me, just throw it
Speaker 5: to the other end.
Speaker 4: Clo, I'm headed down at home.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And the first time he realized, like this little nigga,
Speaker 5: remember that's I feel like that's what he did randomly
Speaker 5: one game.
Speaker 4: Oh you remember that I told you to do that.
Speaker 4: I took that shit and launched that shit. JR. Ran
Speaker 4: and grabbed everybody in New York Like how did they know?
Speaker 5: I'm like that nigga told me to throw it. I
Speaker 5: ain't had nothing going on. I had no way to
Speaker 5: see what was I say. I'm just gonna throw it
Speaker 5: to see if he go get that shit. And he
Speaker 5: went and got it. Like, don't make you make a mistake,
Speaker 5: Like if you got somebody like that or like somebody
Speaker 5: on the post, you'll know you did this to me
Speaker 5: Before Stack but sack Stack had a pitch post and
Speaker 5: he was asking for the ball. Hey, they got the
Speaker 5: switch on on me. He asked for the for the
Speaker 5: ball on pinch post and uh, I'm like, you know,
Speaker 5: I'm crowning. He like fuck him, just like that, like
Speaker 5: fuck him.
Speaker 4: I don't get what he like.
Speaker 5: They said, fuck him and they threw the ball out
Speaker 5: something most disrespectful ship. The most disrespectful ship I ever
Speaker 5: dealt with. But that's the type of ship. Yeah, real
Speaker 5: talk you definitely it was crazy go like he was looking.
Speaker 3: The ball when he got it, throw nothing.
Speaker 5: Just jabbed me, old man game. He looked at me like, bro,
Speaker 5: we not doing I'm not doing this with you. He
Speaker 5: just kept shabbing me until my stance got lower. He
Speaker 5: knew I was gonna get thirsty, like you know, one
Speaker 5: of them dudes.
Speaker 3: Get domn low as soon as you put it on
Speaker 3: the floors.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I ain't got time handle what was ready. So
Speaker 4: it wasn't like that.
Speaker 5: I'm two dribbles man already jabb He just got me
Speaker 5: out before I knew it. All My knees is completely
Speaker 5: I'm so low to the ground wait waiting on dri
Speaker 5: just old school comfortable to go around after the fuck
Speaker 5: you was crazy? Everybody play with sup we.
Speaker 4: Always burn out and then after New York nights, so you.
Speaker 7: Know how that is shot around at ten Nigga, don't
Speaker 7: get in the hotel the eight, bro, you know how
Speaker 7: they go. I mean what we did speaking on chemistry
Speaker 7: heading into the championship in the Run Championship Run twenty sixteen.
Speaker 7: A young team, but a team that was able to
Speaker 7: come together and do something great. How wasn't being around
Speaker 7: Kyrie and the rest of those guys, man, that ship was?
Speaker 7: I ain't lie that was. That was a good time, man.
Speaker 7: And I think that we were so dysfunctional as a team.
Speaker 4: Bro. We had to win some shit.
Speaker 5: Like I'll be telling people all the time, like one
Speaker 5: of the one of the things I seen with like
Speaker 5: the Grizzlies, Right, you can say what you want. They
Speaker 5: need dealing Brooks.
Speaker 4: I said that, Yep, Like you need that one guy
Speaker 4: that's he a little off, don't I said? Steve Kurs
Speaker 4: said it. Draymond Green, you need him. Matt Barnes, you
Speaker 4: need him. You need him on our test. You got
Speaker 4: to have a guy like that on your team.
Speaker 5: That's somebody that this the other side be looking like,
Speaker 5: you know what, let's lead that taking time bomb alone,
Speaker 5: but we need to back off. Dude, let him rock here,
Speaker 5: gonna die for you out there, talk real talk, and
Speaker 5: he gonna change the momentum of the game. You see
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. Like like when I look at our
Speaker 5: twenty sixteen team, when me and Swish got there, I
Speaker 5: felt like I had never been traded before one I
Speaker 5: have never been a part of that. But when I
Speaker 5: got there, me and Swish kind of looked at each
Speaker 5: other after the first couple of practices we did to.
Speaker 2: Get ya traded for not to cut you off? You remember, no,
Speaker 2: because it was a three way. I was so blue
Speaker 2: g y.
Speaker 4: I don't know it was.
Speaker 5: We probably got traded for an eighth grader, get traded
Speaker 5: for a sixth grader. Man, uh, But I just remember
Speaker 5: looking at Swish and being like, bro, they needed us here,
Speaker 5: Like we just changed the whole dynamic of this team.
Speaker 5: Like it's aggressive now, they talking shit like we just
Speaker 5: played them. When we was with the Knicks, we had
Speaker 5: played them, we beat them to open the night, and
Speaker 5: I remember playing against them and being like, bro, y'all
Speaker 5: all the quietest motherfuckers I've ever seen like y'all don't
Speaker 5: even y'all act like y'all ain't jukie, Like y'all just
Speaker 5: put a team together, sweaty. It's supposed to be lit
Speaker 5: over here. Y'all supposed to be having fun. And I
Speaker 5: felt like they were still figuring it, but they was
Speaker 5: like putting too much pressure on themselves.
Speaker 4: And me and Swish just kind of came over there
Speaker 4: like free, free. Yeah, Like we was just like it's lit, bro.
Speaker 4: We were just in New York. We was on a
Speaker 4: losing streak. I'm hurt.
Speaker 5: We was in the press, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: Like we was going through a rough time and then
Speaker 5: we got traded. Not able to fix that situation. Like
Speaker 5: we came over there to the cast. We was like
Speaker 5: this new energy, like it was a bounce happening, like
Speaker 5: and we got Mazi. We went and got Mazi and
Speaker 5: he came over. I'm like, dog, it's like we our
Speaker 5: defense went up. We started getting hungry on defense. You know,
Speaker 5: the media is they would always do shit with Kyle, Like,
Speaker 5: you know, they want to know if kay Gon have
Speaker 5: a thumbs up for a thumbs.
Speaker 4: Down to day.
Speaker 5: I don't know why they do Kyle like that where
Speaker 5: they just act like my man just a space cadet
Speaker 5: or something. But guy was running around there getting forty
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Bron coming out there, just
Speaker 5: I've never seen somebody understand how to play with they
Speaker 5: I call it playing with their toys like Roan, Like
Speaker 5: the man know how to play with his.
Speaker 4: Toys so good.
Speaker 5: Like he ain't gonna let his uh his bike overhill
Speaker 5: had dust on it and his He's still gonna ride
Speaker 5: his faux wheeler and his dirt bike and he's still
Speaker 5: gonna drive his pusch. Like it's like, Bro, you real
Speaker 5: life use every weapon on your roster, like whether people
Speaker 5: know that's why you got him or not, Like he
Speaker 5: gonna use it. He gonna make sure that he do that.
Speaker 5: And being a part of that team and seeing like
Speaker 5: a Kevin Love have an issue, first of all, being
Speaker 5: on other teams, you would never think Kevin Love would
Speaker 5: ever have an issue with like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: just a rough stint where it's like I'm like, bro,
Speaker 5: I'm so used to seeing you do forty and twenty.
Speaker 5: I didn't even know you had like modes where it's like, yeah,
Speaker 5: you all for you just feeling like not as confident
Speaker 5: because you don't create your own shot all the time
Speaker 5: like these guys do. Like now you're playing with people
Speaker 5: that are commanding the ball all the time, and you
Speaker 5: have to be efficient with just whatever touches. So I
Speaker 5: had never seen somebody like that even have to go
Speaker 5: through something. So when I'm watching him do that, and
Speaker 5: I'm watching how Brown would lead through that and help
Speaker 5: him through that and make sure he looking out for
Speaker 5: him even t lou like making sure he run a
Speaker 5: play real quick to make sure somebody get a quick
Speaker 5: shot and they stay engaged, making sure I get a
Speaker 5: quick back door and get a dunk, so I stay
Speaker 5: engaged and I still will run through a wall, Like
Speaker 5: we all got to learn in that because we was
Speaker 5: all dysfunctional. Bro, everybody had a time during that year
Speaker 5: that they was just on their booho bullshit like I
Speaker 5: was boohooing at one time, just feeling like, nigga, I
Speaker 5: want to play point, like y'all got DELI playing point,
Speaker 5: and I want to play point, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: Like we getting into it in practice, overdo it and
Speaker 5: in practice like I remember getting into it and broad practice.
Speaker 5: Now we end up fit to fight down. That shit
Speaker 5: was so fun, bro, Like their practice was so lit because.
Speaker 4: It's a unit. Yeah, we was like what we like, Man,
Speaker 4: fuck the first team.
Speaker 2: Bro, that's what even we try to explain, not to
Speaker 2: cut you off when we used to really practice. Second
Speaker 2: units used to be the lie of the first units
Speaker 2: in this league.
Speaker 5: First you to try to chill. Not today, not today.
Speaker 5: And I'm blaming everything on Bruh. I was blaming bro
Speaker 5: Bro Joe he left the Yeah, he be gambled. I'm
Speaker 5: saying everything I'm saying getting anybody in trouble. But I
Speaker 5: want I want practice to be live like that. And
Speaker 5: by the time playoffs hit, like t Lou was having
Speaker 5: to chill on practice with us, like hey, y'all, yeah,
Speaker 5: y'all too, like y'all be too hype for that five
Speaker 5: minute scrimmage, Like y'all doing too much.
Speaker 4: But it was like that ship made us so like together.
Speaker 5: Then that three one shit happened and everybody was just
Speaker 5: talking like y'all are finna go home, y'all. But we
Speaker 5: sat on that on that on that bus going back,
Speaker 5: and Broun was like, no, we're gonna win Game five.
Speaker 5: They gonna say woo woo, they're gonna do that. We're
Speaker 5: gonna come back here, We're gonna get game six, right,
Speaker 5: and then they finish get scared because we no longer
Speaker 5: like he like, we actually in the best position. We
Speaker 5: have no pressure on us. We're supposed to lose. He's like,
Speaker 5: but we're gonna win tonight. And then we finished. And
Speaker 5: when he said that, I just remember everybody on the
Speaker 5: bus being like, hell yeah, we definitely feel to win.
Speaker 5: Like everybody demeanor changed, like we weren't even mad no more.
Speaker 5: We was like, you know, how to the bus here
Speaker 5: we first get on, it's quiet, everybody in their headphones.
Speaker 5: Oh bro, shorty ass was like nah, and everybody just
Speaker 5: scored to turn their headphones down to and we was
Speaker 5: all on the bus like yeah, bro, we one hundred
Speaker 5: percent not for the lose hundred percent.
Speaker 4: And Draymond had to sit out that one game.
Speaker 5: Were like, oh, y'all, y'all y like that without short
Speaker 5: y'all need Shorty to talk for y'all. Once we figured
Speaker 5: that out, because Draymond is a people don't understand, like,
Speaker 5: that's a big hole if you you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: if you're playing with that all year. Somebody that just
Speaker 5: talks brings that type of energy, and then you play
Speaker 5: without them, it just adjusts.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: What you got going on it Justice jumped in front
Speaker 5: of a lot of stuff, all the real talk, and
Speaker 5: we didn't notice that. So it's like once we did
Speaker 5: that and we rolled with that, I'm just like, bro,
Speaker 5: they couldn't have put together a better team to like
Speaker 5: go through that like we had Richard Jefferson. It's like, bro,
Speaker 5: like having those guys, like, by the way, as funny
Speaker 5: as they are, they are incredible professionals, like Richard Jefferson,
Speaker 5: Like I was so happy to have gotten to learn
Speaker 5: from them because it's like they laugh, they have a
Speaker 5: good time.
Speaker 4: You know, they funny as hell. They gonna have a
Speaker 4: good time.
Speaker 5: But they are always, always, always finna preach professionalism class
Speaker 5: and like they made sure I did stuff, like even
Speaker 5: if I was like being fun, like they would run off.
Speaker 5: Hey man, you missed that kid. That kid just put
Speaker 5: his hand out. Always hit the kids' hands. I don't
Speaker 5: give fuck. I don't give a fuck how much we lose.
Speaker 5: You not that mad, you know what I'm saying. We
Speaker 5: got eighty two games, you're not that mad. Smack that
Speaker 5: kid hand smack every teammate hand every time you come out, like,
Speaker 5: don't be a bitch like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: Like they would check you and do stuff like that.
Speaker 4: Bro, So I got I'd have had it good, man.
Speaker 5: I ain't gonna lie. I'd have had it good in
Speaker 5: the league. Bro, They'll put you on some teams. If
Speaker 5: you look ky, go back and look to you. I've
Speaker 5: been finding some history.
Speaker 4: Yeah, me too. I look at this like this team
Speaker 4: did what he said? You get so lucky the step
Speaker 4: back right to it?
Speaker 3: Was it the truth? In the huddle he told you
Speaker 3: lu give me the ball?
Speaker 4: Or was that just urban legend he told you he
Speaker 4: would give them ball like this was early in the fourth.
Speaker 4: He was frying. He was, That's what I'm saying. He
Speaker 4: was early in the fourth.
Speaker 5: He said he wanted the ball because uh Bron Bron
Speaker 5: wanted a Uh he wanted a three to one screen.
Speaker 5: Bron was he like, yeah, he the biggest Like matchup, Nick,
Speaker 5: Bron will play chess with you.
Speaker 4: It be stone cold to crowd, be quiet. He'd be
Speaker 4: at the top.
Speaker 5: No, no, make him him like him like, no, he
Speaker 5: gonna play like, no, he gonna play today, he'd be
Speaker 5: like whoa buddy, Like WHOA calm down, but he'd be
Speaker 5: dead serious. So he brought that over and we realized
Speaker 5: Steph wasn't trying to match up with Kyle. I don't
Speaker 5: remember the foul situation or what it was, but all
Speaker 5: we took it is like, oh, you scared a dude.
Speaker 5: You scared a buddy, So we just failed him. If
Speaker 5: if Steph came and guarded me, if they tried to
Speaker 5: do a triple switch whatever they tried to do, I say, bro,
Speaker 5: if I go down here and I set this screen
Speaker 5: and Steph switch off and try and go on me
Speaker 5: while I'm in the corner, I'm gonna bring my screen
Speaker 5: up too, and.
Speaker 4: Now you got a double screen. But you, Finnah, have
Speaker 4: to guard Kyrie.
Speaker 5: And once we knew that at the end of that,
Speaker 5: like I mean, if you watch film, you knew Kyrie
Speaker 5: he gonna get to that right wing and he gonna
Speaker 5: punish you. But if you watch film, you know that.
Speaker 5: I just don't feel like they watched enough of it
Speaker 5: because dude wasn't Dude was trying to he Kobe in his.
Speaker 2: Mind didn't lay said that was one of the biggest
Speaker 2: regrets of his career was switching that screen. I think
Speaker 2: Clay came out and said, that's the biggest one of
Speaker 2: the biggest regrets of my career, was switching that screen.
Speaker 5: Clay in his mind, he like, I know exactly what
Speaker 5: it was, Clay, Gary Payton, whoever was on that wing
Speaker 5: was getting on this show.
Speaker 4: The show.
Speaker 5: But I'm saying, like, I know that, I know that
Speaker 5: that that energy that Clay talking about where it's like
Speaker 5: I knew good and well, I know what this is,
Speaker 5: I know what's about to happen. And now I got
Speaker 5: to watch it on TV. Yeah, Like now I gotta
Speaker 5: sit here and act like yeah, like my one of
Speaker 5: my biggest regrets. And Steph, I'm sure you would have
Speaker 5: been the light skinned man either way. He was gonna
Speaker 5: be the light skinned man. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: You was that was destined for you. But I feel
Speaker 5: like when you came to the Garden and I let
Speaker 5: Raymond Felton's pride getting away and he had fifty.
Speaker 7: Let me tell you why I'm not I feel you
Speaker 7: because Raymond felt was on my team. Jamier Nelson had
Speaker 7: twenty points in the first quarter, the first three games
Speaker 7: of the first round of the playoffs on him.
Speaker 4: So I get it. I get it when I tell
Speaker 4: you my dog, But I get Raymond, that's my dog too.
Speaker 4: That's what I said.
Speaker 5: I Raymond said, schump No, like he was like, Bro,
Speaker 5: Like like stop, I'm like, gee, come on, ge like,
Speaker 5: come on. Because I switched off to him, I immediately
Speaker 5: poked the ball away. Let's get to this dude, Joe like,
Speaker 5: stop letting dude do this. But he really be doing
Speaker 5: this to us, Like, stop.
Speaker 4: Letting to do this.
Speaker 5: He really be doing it real because I've seen it
Speaker 5: coming coming. I'm like, the confidence is changing.
Speaker 4: Gee.
Speaker 5: He going back to Davidson on us. Bro, Nah, his
Speaker 5: jersey ain't read. Bro, don't let him do that.
Speaker 4: You feel me. I'm like, he doing the ship that
Speaker 4: we was like, you can't do that in the league.
Speaker 4: He started doing it.
Speaker 5: I'm not.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you going too fast shooting that jumping Now, that's
Speaker 4: too much. You ain't even holding it up no more.
Speaker 4: You ain't.
Speaker 5: You ain't either, Yeah, falling this ship. No, Bro, Now
Speaker 5: he talking to the crowd, he pointing that fans. I'm like, Steph,
Speaker 5: don't even do that. I think it was us.
Speaker 4: My bad. He a New York My bad.
Speaker 5: If I was a part of that because Shorty I
Speaker 5: did not, I could have ran up to Raymond like
Speaker 5: a g you're guarding whatever the fuck else, but I'm
Speaker 5: now guarding Steph ninety four feet.
Speaker 4: But I had just got back from injury. So they
Speaker 4: was like, something, you overgassing yourself. He's gonna do you.
Speaker 4: That's how they were saying. You on a minute restriction,
Speaker 4: He's gonna do you. Let rain and handle willing to
Speaker 4: reblow this wheel. Just yes. I really felt like in
Speaker 4: my heart like we are birth in an animal. Bro.
Speaker 4: I really think of that moment.
Speaker 5: I'm like, Bro, I think we ignited that confidence that
Speaker 5: came because after that game, Bro, he got very disrespectful.
Speaker 5: He got disrespectful shit twelve thirteen, twenty twelve thirteen, Yep,
Speaker 5: that's it.
Speaker 4: I had just got back, Bro. I had to wear
Speaker 4: a sleeve on my knee. I never I had a
Speaker 4: black sleeve on my knee.
Speaker 6: Bro.
Speaker 5: I'm like, Shorty ass is really dragging us. And I'm like, Shorty,
Speaker 5: y'all acting like this right I was coming to I
Speaker 5: never forget being in a huddle. Ron better, what is
Speaker 5: he right now?
Speaker 4: Yeah? My dog my bad. But yeah, I like call
Speaker 4: my nigga ron I just like you Moran. We don't
Speaker 4: call him meta. B better start rubbing my shoulders, like
Speaker 4: calm down. If he telling you to calm down, he like,
Speaker 4: be cool? What's it? No, it couldn't have been meta though,
Speaker 4: cause Meda came the next.
Speaker 5: Who kt Kurt Thomas came, grabbed my shoulders. Say hey, man,
Speaker 5: that sounds different. He say, a man, calm down, calm down.
Speaker 5: But I'm like, I'm like, man, what the fuck?
Speaker 4: This nigga?
Speaker 3: Caugh like three.
Speaker 5: I'm like, bro, this is he putting bullets in us?
Speaker 5: Bro Like what y'all mean? It's not cool? Foul um
Speaker 5: hit him. I'm like, bro, what y'all talking about? He
Speaker 5: ain't got no bruises on nothing.
Speaker 4: Hit him? Hit him? Like what are you talking about?
Speaker 5: Bro?
Speaker 4: Take a foul he coming off the screen. Hit him.
Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, y'all want me to do it? But
Speaker 4: I'm like asking coach. They like, man, somebody get wild Man.
Speaker 4: But he liked he like, come get.
Speaker 5: Wild Man over here. Calm down, man, that man on.
Speaker 5: They like talking to me like it's befolk.
Speaker 4: We knew that the man had fifty and the garden
Speaker 4: was cheering for him. I say they cheering for him.
Speaker 5: I was sick, Bro, light skinned man. I just want
Speaker 5: you to know, bro, light skinning my day. Do you
Speaker 5: know the light skinning man, the light skinning man, the
Speaker 5: light skin Do you know the light skinning man that
Speaker 5: lives on jewelry Lane? Oh? Bro, that light skinned man.
Speaker 5: No got after that, it was real. Yeah, it was
Speaker 5: run away with it. After that he started shooting from
Speaker 5: forty other than start turning around when he's show him
Speaker 5: like you Gilbert Arenas, now you Gilbert Jesus Christ agent
Speaker 5: zero pieces.
Speaker 4: It man, Nix will do it. You standing everybody in confidence.
Speaker 4: He trust man. I was about to say something, what's
Speaker 4: the best version of Bron? Best version?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you play with him. You've seen them, a couple
Speaker 5: of them. Yeah, what's the best version you've seen? I
Speaker 5: think the best version I saw Bron was Remember the
Speaker 5: year that uh they lost to when Dirk won.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that next year, that next year they came back
Speaker 4: when him and.
Speaker 5: D Wade vowed to not shoot, not settle for threes,
Speaker 5: and they played that whole first season and they wasn't
Speaker 5: shooting no threes.
Speaker 4: They was just attacking. It was vicious. I was like, bro,
Speaker 4: what the fuck are we supposed to do with that?
Speaker 4: I was looking at the league like.
Speaker 3: Going downhill too when I get there?
Speaker 4: How am I gonna What am I gonna do about that?
Speaker 11: Like?
Speaker 6: What is that?
Speaker 4: Nigga? Like they're running fast, they big and ship. I'm
Speaker 4: like d Wade and Broun literally passing it back and
Speaker 4: forth and just downhill, downhill, down game. Yeah, I'm like,
Speaker 4: y'all not gonna shoot.
Speaker 5: They was pumped, faking every three no matter how wide
Speaker 5: open it was, and attacking.
Speaker 4: I feel like that was the scariest Broun to deal with.
Speaker 5: He was so focused, Like you remember that clip when
Speaker 5: they did they I think they did the the oop.
Speaker 5: They did the oop they dunked it. She would have
Speaker 5: me watch this clip like ten times. Before the game.
Speaker 5: They called a ooh dunky Ron d Wade and Chris
Speaker 5: Bosh did the fastest sprint like right next to each other,
Speaker 5: like it was like to get back on defense. I
Speaker 5: was like, Nigga, that's the scariest shit I've ever seen
Speaker 5: in my life, those three right there going on a breakaway,
Speaker 5: banging that bitch after like passing it back and forth
Speaker 5: and then sprinting back to where you can't throw an outlet.
Speaker 5: I was like, well what I was, I'll be remembering
Speaker 5: shit like that because it's like, Bro, like you feel
Speaker 5: me like Bron being able to do that and say,
Speaker 5: you know what, I'm not gonna shoot a three now,
Speaker 5: Like that's what's crazy about Broun. Every version is scary
Speaker 5: now that I think about it, because it's like even
Speaker 5: now he can say I'm done dunking on y'all, but
Speaker 5: you still finna have to deal with my back to
Speaker 5: the basket and you got deal it.
Speaker 4: I can still pass it really really good.
Speaker 3: If I don't feel like, if I catch a rhythm,
Speaker 3: I'm here five or six threes on.
Speaker 5: You, we'll talk real talk, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And I figured out this free throw thing for the
Speaker 5: most part. For the most part, my nigga, my nigga
Speaker 5: still once the while and he do ship.
Speaker 4: I'll just be eyeballs out. He funny though, bro, Yeah,
Speaker 4: how did it happens? Shutty?
Speaker 5: Funny though, Bro, it be funny, Broq, unbelievable, She lou.
Speaker 2: He's our next guest actually today talk to him as
Speaker 2: a as a as a coach, players coach.
Speaker 4: Yeah what was he Like?
Speaker 5: It was cool being with Lou because Lou, like you said,
Speaker 5: a players coach is way easier like to deal with.
Speaker 5: He been there, like Mike Woodson one of my favorite coaches,
Speaker 5: because what he every wance in while black let me
Speaker 5: get give me the ball and then he'll show you
Speaker 5: what he talking about. She Lou is another one that
Speaker 5: I don't even think he would realize that he would
Speaker 5: do it every once in a while. Then you just
Speaker 5: throw him the ball all and he don't he can't
Speaker 5: help it, but to like try and show you, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, and he like turns into a
Speaker 5: player for a second. And in those moments, like especially
Speaker 5: with me just being a fan of ball, it's like, gee,
Speaker 5: I'm learning from T. T.
Speaker 4: Lou, Like this is Tyrone Lou like.
Speaker 5: The same you know what I'm saying, Like I get
Speaker 5: it here, my coach, because this is totally Tyrone Lulai.
Speaker 5: I totally used to watch this guy play basketball, so
Speaker 5: I'm already a fan. So it's like it's easier to
Speaker 5: learn from that than seeing him within a suit, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, and then like seeing his his
Speaker 5: his ability to say I'm gonna make an adjustment or
Speaker 5: I'm not going to make an adjustment, but I recognize
Speaker 5: adjustment needs to be made, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Great in game adjustment coach.
Speaker 5: Yes, Yes, Like he will look at the other side
Speaker 5: and be like, hmm, I see what y'all doing. Hey,
Speaker 5: y'all time out? Trust me on this stack jack point
Speaker 5: point And everybody had that moment like he playing point.
Speaker 5: But it's like, whatever you see, let's just try it
Speaker 5: because dog just to time out and he ain't going
Speaker 5: just unless he sees something like that. And I think
Speaker 5: he built a great relationship with everybody on the team
Speaker 5: to trust him in those in those moments, and then
Speaker 5: he earned more trust from us by like in certain
Speaker 5: moments even like like he would be like on some
Speaker 5: ship where he'd be like, yeah, I ain't got nothing
Speaker 5: for y'all. I called that because y'all need to y'all
Speaker 5: need to catch y'all breath and get y'all bearings together.
Speaker 4: But I don't have a play for y'all. Figure it out.
Speaker 4: Go play ball. Can y'all remember that we're playing ball now?
Speaker 4: All right? Cool?
Speaker 5: Go play ball? And it's like that's all we needed.
Speaker 5: It's like, now we don't have a play to think about.
Speaker 5: We're not trying to just hoop play the motion for
Speaker 5: out one end and just who we know how to play.
Speaker 5: We know actions, keep keep people in actions, keep changing
Speaker 5: the sides of the floor, and we would get in
Speaker 5: the groove. So it was like, I think Tyleru is
Speaker 5: like one of the you know what I'm saying, one
Speaker 5: of those coaches that you get around and you you
Speaker 5: appreciate even more afterwards because it's like, damn broverb like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I realized that, and I dealt with like.
Speaker 5: Five different styles. So it was like like the fish
Speaker 5: fish is a different ball. He don't want you overly
Speaker 5: like feeling like that, Like he likes a structure.
Speaker 3: He was in that triangle formation.
Speaker 5: I'm saying, and then he had to stick to that
Speaker 5: principal because that's what he was introducing. But it was
Speaker 5: like that was a structure, and though I figured it out,
Speaker 5: I'm like, bro, everybody had a different Bob.
Speaker 4: That's why I was like, man, I wish I would
Speaker 4: have just had one coach.
Speaker 2: People don't realize of what you don't realize. Because the
Speaker 2: Mark was talking to the Marcus Marcus had like seven
Speaker 2: coaches in eight years.
Speaker 3: It's great, you know what I mean, just when I
Speaker 3: figured this shit out, this motherfucker so.
Speaker 5: And the next motherfucker don't they don't. They don't see
Speaker 5: you as the other thing. They be like, no, I
Speaker 5: like you like this.
Speaker 2: Touch a little more on Kyrie and just him as
Speaker 2: a player, him as a person, and they heard you
Speaker 2: guys used to have some epic one on one games.
Speaker 2: Oh man, you just signed a new five year shoot
Speaker 2: deal too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, god one.
Speaker 5: One of my one of my better friends of the lead,
Speaker 5: Me and Kyle sat down next to each other during
Speaker 5: the mvp A meeting because I had like one version
Speaker 5: of Kyrie in my head, like you what to do?
Speaker 5: Jeror's like, I just I don't know. I damn there
Speaker 5: to the point where I knew I thought I knew
Speaker 5: how he would sound like, I damn near felt like
Speaker 5: I know what he sounds like. It's gonna be more
Speaker 5: like preppy and like he's gonna sound like he wearing
Speaker 5: a polo shirt. Like That's how I felt, and like
Speaker 5: I sat down with him, I was like, oh dude,
Speaker 5: it is super like regular and chill like, and he's
Speaker 5: like totally here to have fun, like he's a young guy,
Speaker 5: like want to have fun.
Speaker 4: And we talked for a while.
Speaker 5: During the meeting, and then uh, David West had this
Speaker 5: uh that moment during that mvp A meeting when he
Speaker 5: stood up and was slamming his hands his fist saying,
Speaker 5: when are we gonna talk about group economics?
Speaker 4: Y'all? Remember that, y'all, wouldn't y'u make never been to
Speaker 4: one meeting because don't even.
Speaker 5: Shut out a yeah almost, but yeah, we was in
Speaker 5: the meetings that he's standing up talking about group economics,
Speaker 5: And back then I had no I had no clue
Speaker 5: what he was talking about, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: But me and Cole both was intrigued that he meant
Speaker 5: this shit, so we knew it meant something.
Speaker 4: But we know what, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 4: we just wasn't in tune yet, but me and him
Speaker 4: was like the only ones in the.
Speaker 5: Room that sided lit up and was like having this
Speaker 5: long conversation about and everybody like that became our bond,
Speaker 5: like trying to figure out this group economics thing. And
Speaker 5: you know now, you know you fast forward and think
Speaker 5: about it now and think about all the stuff that
Speaker 5: Kyrie's doing all the stuff I'm doing and all the
Speaker 5: things we're all doing on separate planes. And now if
Speaker 5: we can stick to the plan and remember to come
Speaker 5: back together and put our money together to do certain
Speaker 5: stuff to keep the power with us.
Speaker 4: That's the group economics that David West was talking about.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So he sparked a light.
Speaker 4: You feel me.
Speaker 5: But when when I think of Kyrie, I think of
Speaker 5: stuff like that. Like people all the time got this
Speaker 5: thing where they want to put Kyrie in this category
Speaker 5: of like I don't know, I don't know why they like.
Speaker 5: I think he might handle the ball so well that
Speaker 5: people like want something to laugh at him about type shit.
Speaker 7: Anytime you think for yourself, it's gonna be a problem
Speaker 7: some people because more people are followers than leaders.
Speaker 4: So you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: And that's the thing that people don't understand. It's not
Speaker 5: rocket science. Kyrie is the leader. He thinks for hisself.
Speaker 5: You know, he sees outside the box. And when you
Speaker 5: like that, a lot of people are followers. They don't
Speaker 5: say they'll never understand somebody thinking for himself and going
Speaker 5: outside the box and trying to lead. That's what he
Speaker 5: always deals with real talk because they be like, they'll
Speaker 5: do that, and I'll be like, bro, y'all, what y'all
Speaker 5: don't get to see is like him explain to you
Speaker 5: that he grew up playing on a rim that was
Speaker 5: missing pieces on the backboard. So that's how he learned
Speaker 5: those weird angles to twist the ball off of because
Speaker 5: his backboard missing piece is missing.
Speaker 4: That's crazy.
Speaker 5: So picture going up to the to the rim this
Speaker 5: way and you have no backboard to finish now if
Speaker 5: somebody's on your arm.
Speaker 4: So he learned how to look forward, spin it to
Speaker 4: where it can hit the left.
Speaker 5: Side and go in on the right like because he
Speaker 5: don't have a backboard to put it on the other side.
Speaker 4: So that's what you have. I'm like, dog, that's insane.
Speaker 5: And then I watched him before the warm ups and
Speaker 5: every day we all do all our ship and everybody
Speaker 5: shit looks similar. Kyrie has this thing where he starts
Speaker 5: and he just sort of doing weird finishes, but it's
Speaker 5: every day. It's like, now you get into a game
Speaker 5: and you trust him, trust everything he got going on
Speaker 5: because he do that every day. That's how that's how
Speaker 5: I trusted mellowa wonder why I trusted Mellow to shoot all.
Speaker 4: I used to be mad too. Sure they used to
Speaker 4: shoot over doubles and ship.
Speaker 5: But then if you come into summer and you work
Speaker 5: out with them that nigga practice, it's a double and
Speaker 5: you shoot.
Speaker 4: Over the double. Like bro, I knew they was gonna double.
Speaker 4: I figured that out. Still shooting that off the glass.
Speaker 4: Favorite Kobe story, Favorite Kobe story. I mean the good
Speaker 4: Game one was.
Speaker 5: Uh that was just mind blowing for me, Like to
Speaker 5: have somebody just tell me, like, all right, I'll let you,
Speaker 5: I'll let you have a good time today.
Speaker 4: But now I'm gonna like.
Speaker 5: For those who missed it, yeah, oh for those who
Speaker 5: missed it, Uh yeah, it was in the garden. I
Speaker 5: got the guard code. I was doing my thing.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: I had a couple of steals, a lot of deflections.
Speaker 5: I was like cutting his moves off because I studied them.
Speaker 5: Like I felt good about my situation, like my whole
Speaker 5: time situation.
Speaker 3: This is all an in game thought too, Like so far,
Speaker 3: so far played this.
Speaker 4: Nigg about my situation.
Speaker 5: I'm like, but like you know when you first get
Speaker 5: to lead and you got like a different like geek
Speaker 5: to you dog like I was like, wait till I
Speaker 5: get to talk to my brother about how I guarded
Speaker 5: this nigga, Like I told him I could. I could
Speaker 5: do it, Like I could guard Kobe, I could guard
Speaker 5: mic I could do it.
Speaker 4: I got this well. We walked out to the third
Speaker 4: quarters and I'm walking.
Speaker 5: And Cole right there and I think I was getting
Speaker 5: like maybe I was fixing my sock or something, but
Speaker 5: I bent down. Cole came up next to me and
Speaker 5: patted me on the leg. You had a great game
Speaker 5: fourth quarter you're talking about? Like, what do you mean
Speaker 5: I had a good game? Like, Bro, that's the most
Speaker 5: disrespectful shit. It's twelve minutes left, Like what the fuck
Speaker 5: are you talking about? I'm going to have a great
Speaker 5: I'm finna have an even better game after this twelve
Speaker 5: minutes the fuck you? Like, I was really confused, And
Speaker 5: after that he just stopped talking to me. It was
Speaker 5: like I didn't exist, like none of us did. He
Speaker 5: went to the matrix, but it was like scary, Like
Speaker 5: I never I hate to say scary because it makes
Speaker 5: me sound like I'm like some timid pump.
Speaker 4: But y'all know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: You seen it.
Speaker 4: I looked that man in the eyes and realized, like
Speaker 4: he don't see me. Something is different. Yeah, he just
Speaker 4: clocked out. She's like, he's not. I'm not.
Speaker 5: It don't matter what I'm doing out here, Like I'm
Speaker 5: just a cone, you know what I'm saying, Like, and
Speaker 5: my teammates are cones.
Speaker 4: He was going through, he went through the double, split it.
Speaker 4: This was blue me, Gee, picture you cut a move off.
Speaker 5: He shot, faked it, showed it, split the double, threw
Speaker 5: that bitch off the glass, and then kicked it to
Speaker 5: the corner and pol Gasol hit a jump shot.
Speaker 4: Bro, and I was I remember being in the game,
Speaker 4: like like, gee, he did I Did I piss him on?
Speaker 4: I'm like, did I do something?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 4: This is my fault? Like then Tony looking at me,
Speaker 4: he like my like, ain't seen you see this ship?
Speaker 3: Like this man is spinning.
Speaker 5: I'm like, bro, he had a pivot. He had to pivot.
Speaker 5: I'm like, and then he stepped through on it. I'm like,
Speaker 5: but I'm like that's legal. But I'm like, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, You a guard and you just did
Speaker 5: that the pinch post. I'm like, bro, what is he
Speaker 5: on right now? And I'm looking around and minds just
Speaker 5: looking like it's regular mellow, just jogging down.
Speaker 4: I'm like, Nigga, this ain't record looking at me like something.
Speaker 5: It's cool, just just keeping I'm like, bro, he's not
Speaker 5: supposed to be He's not supposed to be able to
Speaker 5: do none of that. Bro, Like he shot fake shot,
Speaker 5: fake burying it from twenty eight feet and he just
Speaker 5: was I just remember looking in his eyes, like, bro,
Speaker 5: he not you don't see me, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: Like it's weird to like look somebody in the eye,
Speaker 5: like you feel like you look somebody in the eyes, Like, bro,
Speaker 5: you gonna know me now? Like, yeah, you gonna know
Speaker 5: me now? Like well, I could, I could feel what's
Speaker 5: going on. I remember looking at him like, yo, you
Speaker 5: think I'm nothing? Like seriously, like you really don't? Like
Speaker 5: for three quarters? Did you think I was something? For
Speaker 5: three quarters?
Speaker 4: Like That's how I felt about that whole Kobe ordeal. Bro.
Speaker 5: My favorite picture, uh well, one of my favorite pictures
Speaker 5: ever from being in the league is that picture Kobe
Speaker 5: in a triple threat and I'm down in the position
Speaker 5: I'm like face to face with this nigga and I'm
Speaker 5: trying to get a reaction and you could literally see
Speaker 5: his eyes glazed over because he's just counting. Whoever's like,
Speaker 5: you gotta cleanse. No, you gotta cleanse. And I'm gonna
Speaker 5: have to deal with him at therim. You gotta cleanse.
Speaker 3: Tho. I'm gonna tell you a quick story.
Speaker 2: So we is on the way to Spain one time
Speaker 2: when I was playing with him and it was no
Speaker 2: one else was up every everyone had their families. He
Speaker 2: was over there and he had his headphones on and
Speaker 2: he had his light on, and I thought he was
Speaker 2: over there rapping. So I'm over there. I'm just on
Speaker 2: the team. I'm gonna go there and talk shit fuck
Speaker 2: with him. Dude had like thirty or forty little courts
Speaker 2: drawn up and he was doing just that. He's like,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna see where you guys are at when the
Speaker 2: defense guard me, because I never look at the first person.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the second and third in the help
Speaker 2: side defender. So it's funny you said that, because he's like,
Speaker 2: I never look at the person guarding me. I'm never
Speaker 2: worried about the person guards mind, it's the second third
Speaker 2: in the help side. It's gonna come And it's funny
Speaker 2: you said that because he literally told me that ship
Speaker 2: because he had a bunch of little court scribble. This
Speaker 2: is where you're gonna be open. This where L's gonna
Speaker 2: be open. This where fish gonna be O. This where
Speaker 2: Steve's gonna be open. I'm like, this where Pal's gonna
Speaker 2: be open. This is where Big Drew's.
Speaker 5: Gonna get It's like some computer shot around. How you
Speaker 5: even draw that many courts? Why are you drawing courts?
Speaker 4: Bro with you?
Speaker 5: Oh so he has drawing courts on the play man.
Speaker 5: But that's I remember that though, Like he will look
Speaker 5: you in your eye. I got a whole picture what
Speaker 5: that man is looking me in the eye. And you
Speaker 5: could tell he cannot You can't see me, can't see me?
Speaker 2: Translistening a little bit music and basketball both you guys,
Speaker 2: some have off the court passions and music. We just
Speaker 2: had a crazy cipher the other day at the NBA
Speaker 2: NBP A post up shout out the team for that
Speaker 2: you bones highlands uh and and and Zoe Stack said
Speaker 2: he should have been there because he would have gone down.
Speaker 2: But where's your passing for music come from?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 4: I can't draw? So this is the asshold show.
Speaker 5: That's my that's literally why I start playing with words,
Speaker 5: because I couldn't draw like my mama could draw. My
Speaker 5: my brother could really draw like they can draw, like
Speaker 5: like beautiful paintings like my brother like without the education
Speaker 5: of art, could naturally just do stuff like my cousins
Speaker 5: could do stuff. My granddad was an artist. So it's
Speaker 5: like I was so like blue, like why can't I draw?
Speaker 4: Like I sucked? I can't draw, yeah, like together, So
Speaker 4: I start paying pictures with words.
Speaker 5: That was my thing, Like I can't I could tell
Speaker 5: you exactly, I could tell you how something look. I
Speaker 5: could describe some ship that really don't look that good.
Speaker 5: But after I say, you're man, I'm gonna pull up.
Speaker 4: That's the same way.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but everything I say is really there is just
Speaker 5: it don't look as nice as it sounded. And I
Speaker 5: realized I could do that with words. So I'm like,
Speaker 5: all right, I'm gonna rock with that, becuz I ain't
Speaker 5: got a shout drawing shit, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 7: So I commend you, bro, because you know, it's a
Speaker 7: lot of us that love music and that that take
Speaker 7: time to do it. But a lot of people don't
Speaker 7: put their music out because they're not as confident and
Speaker 7: they sold programmed to hear what people saying, Are you
Speaker 7: just doing it because you do this? Because you know
Speaker 7: what I'm saying. I love the fact and I got
Speaker 7: to give you a posercs.
Speaker 5: Love the fact that you stuck with it and you
Speaker 5: actually put your music out, bro, because a lot of
Speaker 5: athletes like me that do it. We need guys like
Speaker 5: y'all to keep putting musical talk. But I meaned y'all
Speaker 5: to put like y'all be having niggas on game too.
Speaker 5: When it's like you drop, we.
Speaker 4: Talk about it all the time.
Speaker 5: I'm like, he he liked he dropping it like he
Speaker 5: dropping it like lou Will. He's gonna drop it with visuals,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So I'm like, he got
Speaker 5: the ship with me coming out. I'm like, bro, y'all
Speaker 5: as is really doing. They got the guys in the
Speaker 5: video and a he ain't like really shit if we
Speaker 5: was gonna tip to him, he was nervous.
Speaker 1: Ship.
Speaker 3: He just pulled the week. He good good waiting on
Speaker 3: that bar oatmeal that bar.
Speaker 4: Oh, they get you a bowl man. Everybody got songs,
Speaker 4: get a bowl man.
Speaker 5: This bar over will come out real boom got we
Speaker 5: got some songs too.
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 5: That is half the battle, though, It's just being able
Speaker 5: to put the music out and being able to put
Speaker 5: it out consistently enough to where your fan base and
Speaker 5: your audience can actually support you because they know music
Speaker 5: is coming and this ain't gonna be like every once
Speaker 5: in a while, like oh, an NBA player made a
Speaker 5: song like nah, it gotta be like yo, he releasing
Speaker 5: ship like and we could walk with him. There's a
Speaker 5: story happening, you know what I'm saying. It's gonna be
Speaker 5: some people that's gonna jam your ship that's gonna really
Speaker 5: fuck with it.
Speaker 2: Give me your four NBA rapper Mount Rushmore current present,
Speaker 2: past current president, the same thing pastor present. It was
Speaker 2: for them, right yep, low key, It's gonna be me,
Speaker 2: Dame Stack and Lou because I feel like and the
Speaker 2: and the one.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna if I take myself out, I'm gonna put
Speaker 5: Myles Bridges. But to me, everybody that put their ship
Speaker 5: out get a response one and then put ship out
Speaker 5: where people don't have to Like if you could put
Speaker 5: a song out and people jammy and they don't have
Speaker 5: to explain that you who.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's different. You're right, bro, you know what I'm.
Speaker 5: Saying, Like Dame when Dame went on that un sway yep,
Speaker 5: mas Like, don't get wrong. People that knew he who, Yeah,
Speaker 5: they gonna be like man nba nigga just went crazy.
Speaker 5: But there was real life people just saying like, who's
Speaker 5: that rapper?
Speaker 4: Right period? Who's that rapper? That rapper?
Speaker 5: Dude, It's like, you don't know, that's Damian Lillard, Damien,
Speaker 5: that's Damian Lillard. That's not Dame Dollar, that's Damian Lillard.
Speaker 5: Put fifty in your ass, That's that's him. Who are
Speaker 5: some of the people you looked at inspirational wise for music?
Speaker 5: Mm hmmm uh Andre three K you got a lot
Speaker 5: of him in your flow too. Yeah, he's a He
Speaker 5: taught me voice inflection. Him and Si Loo Like when
Speaker 5: I listen to them, they're very big on diiction and
Speaker 5: how they how they delivering certain words. Like I always
Speaker 5: liked how Andre could take us a word that it's
Speaker 5: like that word is not pronounced like that, but that
Speaker 5: was coole as fuck and it made it rhyme the
Speaker 5: next thing. So it's cool now I could say that
Speaker 5: word like that and people know what is, you know.
Speaker 4: What I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I always felt like if Andre and methid Man had
Speaker 5: a little brother, it be me. Yeah, Like I always
Speaker 5: felt like that, Like that that would have been my
Speaker 5: two big brothers in like a hip hop household, so
Speaker 5: to speak. But it was like that's who I felt like.
Speaker 5: Methi Man was like the coolest thing Walker. I'm like, bro,
Speaker 5: everything dude, dude is cool. He's solid, and he ain't
Speaker 5: finna do no bullshit. I ain't gonna read about this nigga,
Speaker 5: no media, ain't no dumb shit gonna happen. Ain't nobody
Speaker 5: finna play with him, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 5: he's finna give me a good flow every time. He's
Speaker 5: gonna give me a story every time. And he's never
Speaker 5: gonna do the weird shit to me. I'm not gonna
Speaker 5: get an album of weird shit. He's never gonna do that.
Speaker 5: He's gonna give me my camouflage split smoking sounding song
Speaker 5: like that's what I want. I don't want the new shit.
Speaker 5: I don't want you change or nothing, and he don't
Speaker 5: do that. So I always felt like them too, and
Speaker 5: like the influence of like a ce Lo and like
Speaker 5: a fifty cent really fifty cent m andem where they
Speaker 5: I feel like they started to like sing how j
Speaker 5: Coby like singing but not singing, Like it's like, ah,
Speaker 5: I know I can't sing, but we gonna sing it
Speaker 5: like this guys because they like.
Speaker 4: They like the first ones to tap into the fact
Speaker 4: that we can't sing.
Speaker 5: And the crowd knows it and they ass can't sing,
Speaker 5: so they gonna they can actually sing along with my
Speaker 5: bad singing.
Speaker 3: We all gonna sound crazy terrible together.
Speaker 5: So it's like it's like the jay Z but man,
Speaker 5: it's like we all love to do that because we
Speaker 5: all can't sing, you know.
Speaker 4: What I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So it's like when they figured that out, I just took.
Speaker 5: I take little stuff like that. I always take what
Speaker 5: can I do that? That made me appreciate that music,
Speaker 5: And I felt like the more voice inflections, the more
Speaker 5: times are artists can make you say someone feels like
Speaker 5: you in that world with them, The more you could
Speaker 5: do that, the better it is for the music. So
Speaker 5: them like like my grabs, I never really grabbed artists
Speaker 5: for other reason, like you got a good story and
Speaker 5: then you do something that's like intriguing, and I feel
Speaker 5: like I have to go to you for that. Then
Speaker 5: I'm gonna stick with you as hard like I'm ana
Speaker 5: fuck with you.
Speaker 4: Big five ain't been on the podcast, yep, but go ahead.
Speaker 2: Man the ability real quick before we get to that,
Speaker 2: the ability to balance fatherhood with a public relationship, with
Speaker 2: a wife who's an entertainer, with you who are multifaceted,
Speaker 2: former professional athlete, how do you juggle and manage all that.
Speaker 4: Well's east of him? I'm gonna answer that question. Fuckers.
Speaker 4: She a real one.
Speaker 7: I've been knowing since since the since of be the
Speaker 7: center of the concert. Everybody trying to higher let her
Speaker 7: get She'll see me way over the broad That's just
Speaker 7: how she is.
Speaker 4: She too real.
Speaker 5: So when you got a real one on each side,
Speaker 5: everybody you ain't got no choice down since is the
Speaker 5: realest down.
Speaker 4: It's a uh you know what's crazy?
Speaker 5: That shit really be hard to balance, Like we really
Speaker 5: don't be like he said, like she just a real
Speaker 5: nigga about it. Like sometimes that shit is all bad, bro.
Speaker 5: Sometimes it feel like sometimes it's just our.
Speaker 4: Schedules don't work. I might not see this lady for
Speaker 4: a month, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Like sometimes it maybe three months if she got a movie,
Speaker 5: I got a movie or a show to do whatever.
Speaker 4: It's just the shit be hard.
Speaker 5: Like but I feel like, you know, like a lot
Speaker 5: of other couples and you know, people that go out
Speaker 5: on that limb to say we're gonna do this marriage thing,
Speaker 5: We're gonna bring these kids into the world.
Speaker 4: It's like, Bro, you signed up for it to go
Speaker 4: fucking terrible, good and bad.
Speaker 5: Like literally your vows, Like when this shit get terrible,
Speaker 5: is you gonna slide or no, cause it's gonna get terrible,
Speaker 5: Like it's guaranteed, you know what I'm saying. Like you,
Speaker 5: once you live life for long enough, it's like you
Speaker 5: know at some point this shit gonna make a left
Speaker 5: and go awful with you. But like, like even with basketball,
Speaker 5: like I've never seen nothing in basketball be good unless
Speaker 5: I went through this life.
Speaker 4: It's like, no commitment that we have in life is
Speaker 4: good the whole time. No, you're gonna get a dump.
Speaker 4: They're gonna dump ship on you.
Speaker 5: Can you now stand in front of everybody with Dodo
Speaker 5: on you and be like, Yep, we're finna try again.
Speaker 4: I'm finna do it again. Then wipe this sh off.
Speaker 4: I got another idea.
Speaker 5: I'm definitely finna take a bath. I'm gonna get it
Speaker 5: from in between my neck. Like we gotta get the
Speaker 5: ship off us, but you gotta continue to march. And
Speaker 5: it's like I feel like we that's that's the only way,
Speaker 5: Like you gotta just give yourself grace and knowing like
Speaker 5: I got.
Speaker 4: Room, I gotta grow. She got room, she gotta grow.
Speaker 5: It's time that we might not be on the same
Speaker 5: but it's like, as long as we got the same mission,
Speaker 5: then we locked in. You see what I'm saying, what's
Speaker 5: that ship? If you locked in, ain't no switching up. Bro,
Speaker 5: got it gotta feel like that though you feel I'm
Speaker 5: saying like, if you feel like your other side the
Speaker 5: slide on, you'll be sick. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I got an opportunity.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I was the first guest to
Speaker 2: one of your first guests podcast amongst Men, Bro, that.
Speaker 4: Was one of the highest rating, one of the highest
Speaker 4: rate of episodes. My dog you so th trips that
Speaker 4: I won't say if you heard me, it's still if
Speaker 4: you heard me, they still it's still dripple. We're gonna
Speaker 4: give you a lot of dribble on our podcast, and.
Speaker 2: I do the first to smoke on that while in okay,
Speaker 2: I won't don't even where you're at now, I can't
Speaker 2: speak on that.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, you know what.
Speaker 5: We're gonna work on it for next next week. You
Speaker 5: got making exceptions for us like they do Snoop. Now,
Speaker 5: I'm the basketball versions of Snoop. They got something making
Speaker 5: exceptions for five.
Speaker 4: Don't be saying that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I'm coming in the door sparked up. I'm
Speaker 5: smelling like it, feeling like it, looking like it. If
Speaker 5: still can That's what I'll be saying. They they It's like,
Speaker 5: I'm like, bro, I've seen Snoop like up anywhere period.
Speaker 5: I'm like, bro, it's no way that that man is
Speaker 5: allowed to do that because we know his name is
Speaker 5: Snoop Dog.
Speaker 4: Like, I'm like, it could be done. Yeah today put
Speaker 4: it associated. Yeah, I'm there with it.
Speaker 2: The rest of a couple of times, the pack you up,
Speaker 2: But talk to us about your podcast Amongst Men. The
Speaker 2: idea came from and obviously you co hosted with your brother.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Imano Munk's Men kind of happened because uh, you know,
Speaker 5: i I've done you know, pretty cool in the podcast,
Speaker 5: like just I think as an athlete, we don't get
Speaker 5: to open up a lot, and I was early on
Speaker 5: I opened up a couple of times on camera and
Speaker 5: people gravitated toward it. So that demand led to them
Speaker 5: saying they wanted me to do a podcast. I originally
Speaker 5: didn't feel comfortable in saying like, uh, yeah, I'm gonna sit.
Speaker 4: Down with somebody, like, uh, what's the buddy?
Speaker 5: They used to add that so where he usually talking
Speaker 5: crazy to people with like crazy wild hair, howis Stern?
Speaker 5: I used to be like thinking like I don't want
Speaker 5: to be how it's thuned. I don't think I can
Speaker 5: hold down the talk show that long.
Speaker 4: And Corner one, yeah you can't hold no corner show
Speaker 4: down ship.
Speaker 5: But it was just like I don't think I could
Speaker 5: sit down like how you see it, like I won't
Speaker 5: talk to people sometimes. I just like I think that
Speaker 5: because we have a job where sometimes you have to
Speaker 5: be an entertainer, so to speak, Like the moment I
Speaker 5: get to shut that down, I totally love to go
Speaker 5: back to being a kid and yeah, I don't have
Speaker 5: to talk to y'all. It's like I don't exist today
Speaker 5: Like before I was just tall y'all didn't bother me.
Speaker 4: So I go back to that in my mind. Love
Speaker 4: that's my happy place.
Speaker 5: But I think that hold on, I just forgot what
Speaker 5: I was all the podcast broad that.
Speaker 3: You just went to his happy place real quick.
Speaker 5: When I when I got the chance to do the podcast,
Speaker 5: it was like, you know, I usually turn myself off
Speaker 5: as far as like not letting people know all the
Speaker 5: way my mental but I was like, the only way
Speaker 5: for me to have like a clean cut way to
Speaker 5: give it to y'all real would be to have it
Speaker 5: with my brother because it's like when you with your brothers,
Speaker 5: like when you with your father and y'all have a
Speaker 5: couple of drinks and y'all cookouts. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: y'all just sitting down. It's like, bro, that's the best
Speaker 5: basketball conversation.
Speaker 7: This conversation period about life memories, all kind of shit
Speaker 7: without cameras.
Speaker 5: You sit down with them and you just start talking
Speaker 5: and it's like it's like you grow up. It's like
Speaker 5: growing up in two hours, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: That's what I felt like. And I was like, bro,
Speaker 5: if I could get originally, we was gonna try and
Speaker 5: like reveald.
Speaker 4: My old kitchen for your set. You feel me like
Speaker 4: we was trying to do that. Well.
Speaker 5: I was like, well, let's build my old kitchen. I
Speaker 5: need like the thing come down with the little TV
Speaker 5: that we had a thing like that, Like I love
Speaker 5: key wanted to put like the cat little box back there,
Speaker 5: like really fuck it up, like make you feel like
Speaker 5: how it used to be, because it's like some of
Speaker 5: these conversations that you like driving past somebody and putting
Speaker 5: them on my hip, Like bro, that was like a
Speaker 5: long conversation in the kitchen, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: Like my dad really telling me how to get past
Speaker 5: people and then put them on the hip and then
Speaker 5: making my brother stand up, Like bro, these are the
Speaker 5: conversations that we had. So I'm like, bro, if I
Speaker 5: could have them there, a podcast will be lit. Out
Speaker 5: in my mind, I'm like, that'll be lit. My dad
Speaker 5: walking past this, chiming in here and there, me and
Speaker 5: my brother just talking shit like that'll be lit. I
Speaker 5: never even in my thoughts, said like, yeah, we're gonna
Speaker 5: bring guests and do this. I didn't think that through.
Speaker 5: I'm like, who would want to come talk to I
Speaker 5: thought fans would just want to see me and my
Speaker 5: brother argue about basketball. They truth like I was gonna
Speaker 5: like preview games. That was gonna come and we was
Speaker 5: gonna put up predictions and like talk shit to each other. Really,
Speaker 5: but that would probably turn it in a fight. So
Speaker 5: I'm glad we didn't do that. But as we start
Speaker 5: doing it with Uninterrupted, that shit has been growing.
Speaker 6: Bro.
Speaker 5: We on the second season. We just wrapped the second
Speaker 5: season up, about to head into a third season. But
Speaker 5: we talked fatherhood, we talk basketball, we talk life. You
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. You've come on there, like when
Speaker 5: you came did your episode, Like some of the jewels
Speaker 5: that you drop for players that are looking to build
Speaker 5: outside of just being a player. There's so many of
Speaker 5: us that really take that identity as like what you said, Jack,
Speaker 5: when they give you the man you were supposed to hoop,
Speaker 5: It's like, Bro, you think that man ain't supposed to
Speaker 5: learn how to use his money than anything else what
Speaker 5: you're supposed to be hooping. So you think that he
Speaker 5: just go to get money in there, he's just gonna
Speaker 5: keep it in the bank forever, like and never spend it.
Speaker 5: You don't think he want to have a excuse me
Speaker 5: have a restaurant. He couldn't have been a kid in
Speaker 5: one of the restaurants and thought that the money from
Speaker 5: basketball could get him a restaurant.
Speaker 4: It's not okay.
Speaker 5: But everybody be cool with getting their job, and as
Speaker 5: soon as they get their job, they set up ten
Speaker 5: other businesses and they do it great for themselves and
Speaker 5: all this other shit. It's like, bro, y'all all go
Speaker 5: do it. But it's like y'all mad at us for
Speaker 5: wanting to play basketball. Y'all could have hooped too, motherfucker,
Speaker 5: go hoop shit. Y'all still gonna take your tie off
Speaker 5: after yr. I see everybody that work on Wall Street,
Speaker 5: whether they do it, y'all take y'all tie, Loosen that
Speaker 5: shit up, and come to.
Speaker 4: The game, y'all.
Speaker 5: If we don't have a game, y'all playing at the
Speaker 5: gym together, and y'all play ball for free. It got
Speaker 5: paid differ, but we're gonna all go out there and
Speaker 5: do that. So I just like, I love bringing guests
Speaker 5: on now and being able to pick their brain one
Speaker 5: because these conversations happen, and we sometimes don't appreciate it
Speaker 5: all the way. We just sort of have the conversations, right,
Speaker 5: But every once in a while I go through my
Speaker 5: DMS and people be like, yo, man, that conversation y'all
Speaker 5: had when y'all touched on this topic. I was going
Speaker 5: through that right then, right there, and I needed that,
Speaker 5: and y'all casually talked about it, but y'all opened up,
Speaker 5: y'all spit it raw like, and they take shit from
Speaker 5: us because it's like y'all not on here, Like.
Speaker 4: I could tell y'all not acting like somebody else. This
Speaker 4: conversation is so.
Speaker 3: Long, shump got through it. I could do it if
Speaker 3: you go through what I could do it.
Speaker 5: They feel like that, like, bro, I listened to them
Speaker 5: for an hour and I could hear like their guard
Speaker 5: is down, like they're not. It's not Yeah, this is
Speaker 5: not a politically correct conversation, so to speak. When you
Speaker 5: have those things and you you see those responses of
Speaker 5: people saying, like, man, I was going through it, and
Speaker 5: y'all talked about mental health today and seeing that athlete, sir,
Speaker 5: you know, dealing with these type of things, and let
Speaker 5: me know to just hold on to the rope, like
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like maybe I'm not like
Speaker 5: everybody's going through this and that's okay. It's okay to
Speaker 5: go through this for a day like like you have
Speaker 5: these things and having that reinforcement from fans and having uh,
Speaker 5: you know, the people that work behind the scenes for
Speaker 5: the podcast, like them being able to come in and
Speaker 5: just tell you about how the podcast is doing. How
Speaker 5: do you monetize this? It's like constantly learning, constantly bringing
Speaker 5: you Yeah, so it's like to continue to be able
Speaker 5: to do that after playing ball and for people to
Speaker 5: even give a fuck about what we want to talk about.
Speaker 5: And you know, the stories that that we got, it's
Speaker 5: like to share them. It's like what we're gonna do,
Speaker 5: take them to the grave. I can't wait to tell
Speaker 5: y'all some of this basketball, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Mind a monkst men, you can find that at Uninterrupted
Speaker 2: Platforms Season three coming soon. All right, we don't quick hitters, man,
Speaker 2: We appreciate your time today. So first thing to come
Speaker 2: to mind, let us know what album?
Speaker 4: One album? Excuse me on repeat? What would it be?
Speaker 4: College drop? God has drops?
Speaker 2: I missed that person? Five dinner guests dead or alive?
Speaker 2: Five dinner Guess that's that's that's better alive? All right,
Speaker 2: I got one that. All right, We're just gonna do it.
Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna explain it. I'll just put it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right.
Speaker 5: So at dinner, Mike, uh and I say Mike, because
Speaker 5: when I first came in the league, Mike explained to
Speaker 5: me like that it was okay to eat the red meat.
Speaker 5: But the day before a game because somebody told me, like,
Speaker 5: why you eating steak associates and he was like, yeah,
Speaker 5: steak potatoes, oh het red meat, Like he was like yeah,
Speaker 5: like be sick in ahead, like whatever they telling you,
Speaker 5: you need it, do that and then do what you
Speaker 5: gotta do tomorrow. So yeah, Mike, you definitely holler at me.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Come dynergy. Uh kneel on hmm.
Speaker 4: But just that was like, like we get it.
Speaker 5: We respected as well because I had posted that, like
Speaker 5: there was two ladies that I just had posted all
Speaker 5: over my wall. Uh, well, my wife already gonna be there.
Speaker 5: So we're hosting the other five guars. So two more
Speaker 5: the Obamas. Oh you say that a lot of though too.
Speaker 5: Damn damn you could have to. I'll give you two more, Okay, cool,
Speaker 5: the Obamas. And then I really want uh, Malcolm X
Speaker 5: and Muhammad Ali at the table too, just because like
Speaker 5: I feel like it'll make the conversation so raw to
Speaker 5: see Mike and Muhammad Ali like start whatever. Competitive. Yeah,
Speaker 5: Like I just want to let them go off, and
Speaker 5: just like I just like the dynamic of that situation
Speaker 5: would be crazy. And then me and Tiana Bird asked,
Speaker 5: like you feel me like we do? We do all
Speaker 5: the prestige, We probably cut in between that and like
Speaker 5: made it a little you know, more relatable in that thing.
Speaker 5: So it's like, I just feel like that would be
Speaker 5: a beautiful conversation that that stems from that, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying in some ways, But man, that's a
Speaker 5: great question.
Speaker 4: Dinner guest Bron m J Kobe Rankam, Mike Bron.
Speaker 7: You can't go wrong either way. I mean, that'spping that's
Speaker 7: on the island. Three shows of movies in rotation Shots
Speaker 7: next Friday, class Halm Nights Nice. I like, I like
Speaker 7: your picks, Oh Bro, I gonna.
Speaker 5: Watch that all day though. I seen Shot To so
Speaker 5: many times though with the quirky give quirky sound. By
Speaker 5: the way, every time I watched Shot that, I find
Speaker 5: a new part me too. Why am I just not
Speaker 5: noticing that that boy cut off that shirt and had
Speaker 5: his stomach bear. I never I was like, bro, this
Speaker 5: man real life cut his shirt like that and they
Speaker 5: kept playing that quirky music the whole movie.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I love that movie. Great movie. Up
Speaker 4: the shot, the great movie.
Speaker 2: Top three best dressed players present day, present day or
Speaker 2: in the past, all time or present day.
Speaker 12: Hey, y'all kind of started the fashion So yeah, Shan
Speaker 12: and Jordan Clarks honorable mention Swaggy be nice.
Speaker 3: Gonna love that about corner boys and ship.
Speaker 4: Corner Boys for life, swagger. You know what it is.
Speaker 5: We had our quarterboys conversation boy, Quarterboys for Life adult.
Speaker 5: You could see one person on our show, who would
Speaker 5: it be? But you have to help us get your
Speaker 5: answer on the show.
Speaker 3: Somebody like that, you know, everybody, people in your household
Speaker 3: or people you play with.
Speaker 4: Yeah, besides the wife. Besides the wife coming on here.
Speaker 4: She definitely needed I was about say, we need we
Speaker 4: need tea here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we definitely because we need to get our women
Speaker 5: take He said, that's easy though, Okay, that's easy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's gonna have to come on here. She just
Speaker 4: released a sneaker too. You got you got to take one.
Speaker 4: Make sure you pass that message. You passed it. You
Speaker 4: know that passed that message. This is gone like just
Speaker 4: had to was clean.
Speaker 5: But yeah, you definitely need her on her She got
Speaker 5: plenty to promote. But I say your other dream yes, uh.
Speaker 4: Oh, work for benz Van. Benz Van. We bumped into
Speaker 4: help and I can't even I can't even help you
Speaker 4: with that because that got his number.
Speaker 5: You got met him out here. Let him know I'm
Speaker 5: looking for him too. I'm looking for him too. Oh bro,
Speaker 5: I'm looking for you.
Speaker 4: He said. Yeah, buddy, the high end high it's funny seal. Yeah,
Speaker 4: if you get him, Yeah, we're gonna get him for
Speaker 4: both of us. Man, I need it.
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