Speaker 1: Really readily, docs, we'll go the snow tip to tip.
Speaker 1: This is all wine, this is our passion. I'm Luk Thomas.
Speaker 1: I'm this this morning combat.
Speaker 2: I can never get over that. I can never get
Speaker 2: over that. Welcome on this good it's amazing on this
Speaker 2: twenty third day of January twenty twenty six. Because ladies
Speaker 2: and gentlemen, finally your long national drought, international drought, I suppose,
Speaker 2: is over. The fights are back and we are here
Speaker 2: to get you ready. Hello everyone, I'm nearly one half
Speaker 2: of your hosting duo. My name is Luke Thomas. I
Speaker 2: am joined by better call y'all himself defrocked this barred
Speaker 2: the whole nine yards. It's Jed Michue. What's up? Jed?
Speaker 2: How are you.
Speaker 3: Bitch to be disbarred? I had to have been barred
Speaker 3: in the first place, so I don't bring that nonsense here.
Speaker 2: You've never passed the bar, You've never taken the bar.
Speaker 3: No, I actually did, but I never I never got
Speaker 3: I passed the bar when I got out, and then
Speaker 3: I did my I forget what they call it your
Speaker 3: service shit, but because I didn't want to pay the
Speaker 3: dues since I wasn't going to be an attorney. I
Speaker 3: never got a bar guard, so I can't be disbarred
Speaker 3: because I never technically was barred, but I did pass
Speaker 3: the bar, which is important.
Speaker 2: All right, Very good, Well, welcome here. Nice to see you, Jed,
Speaker 2: Jed of course from MMA fighting dot Com. Now let
Speaker 2: me give a one bit of a disclaimer up front.
Speaker 2: It might be like, hey, aren't you guys supposed to
Speaker 2: be boozing in studio, Well we will be, just not
Speaker 2: for this month. There was a bit of a miscommunication
Speaker 2: such that. Don't worry. The Quervo deal has been renewed
Speaker 2: for the rest of the calendar year. Everything is full
Speaker 2: steam ahead, but it doesn't actually start until next month,
Speaker 2: and so there was some miscommunication. We thought it would
Speaker 2: be a get going for this month and it does not.
Speaker 2: So apologies for the miscommunication. Sorry about that. I promise
Speaker 2: you that is just as good as it was last year.
Speaker 2: We'll be back in studio very soon, just not today. Sorry,
Speaker 2: and Jed of course we'll have you back in studio
Speaker 2: once we resume returning to it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Honestly, it kind of worked out, what with the terrible
Speaker 3: weather that's coming exactly York. So because I was like
Speaker 3: planning to do this and then this sort of feels
Speaker 3: a lot better to me. Frankly, what is.
Speaker 2: The weather expectation in Georgia. We're in the eight to
Speaker 2: twelve inches of snow kind of place.
Speaker 3: North George is gonna get some Luke. I know that
Speaker 3: there's nothing that the MK chat loves more than talking politics.
Speaker 2: Yes, but I gotta.
Speaker 3: Tell you it's been pretty tough to have a confidence
Speaker 3: in the weather forecasting, what with the changes that came,
Speaker 3: because it has shifted every day. At the beginning of
Speaker 3: this week, I thought that I wasn't going to be
Speaker 3: able to do the MMA Fighting watch party because we
Speaker 3: were just going to die with snow and ice. And
Speaker 3: now it's like it's probably gonna snow Saturday night a
Speaker 3: little bit. There's no consistency. It's gotten progressively better every day,
Speaker 3: so like it's gonna be cold and probably icy for
Speaker 3: a few days, but everybody north of us seems like
Speaker 3: y'all are getting screwed.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think we're gonna get it too too
Speaker 2: bad in terms of the storm itself, but I think
Speaker 2: afterwards all next week it's gonna be in the teens
Speaker 2: and twenties so it's just all gonna freeze and turn
Speaker 2: into concrete. So that's not being fun, But who cares.
Speaker 2: The fights are back UFC three twenty four.
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 2: It is finally upon us, the Paramount Era. So let's
Speaker 2: get things started. If you want to follow us on social,
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Speaker 2: supplies last. And remember those posters are just twenty five dollars.
Speaker 2: They did get a little bit banged up in transit.
Speaker 4: They are sold out as well, oh they sold out.
Speaker 4: Blisters are sold out.
Speaker 2: Yes, thank wow, very good. All right, so we'll get
Speaker 2: those to you here as soon as the weather permits.
Speaker 2: And let's bring in the third member of our family here.
Speaker 2: It is the son of a horned off Australian. He
Speaker 2: is my friend in yours. He is nothing if not
Speaker 2: a Long Island flag bearer. It's Long Island. Look what's up,
Speaker 2: my friend? How are you?
Speaker 4: What's up? Dude? Thank you for calling me family. That
Speaker 4: was very honorable here against the honorable Jed Michu. You know,
Speaker 4: the lawyer, so good, so honorable Jed. I would hire you.
Speaker 4: You know, normally lawyers make me nervous and make me
Speaker 4: stay comfortable, you know, yeah, that's how it goes. But boys,
Speaker 4: UFC's back this weekend. I'm fucking hyped. Got Jose Young's
Speaker 4: versus Gaff Pierre airing after this on prop Quoy.
Speaker 3: Wonder that's gonna go.
Speaker 4: Twenty dollars on the line. You know, you never know.
Speaker 4: Gaff did pull up the upset in the tournament, could
Speaker 4: pull it again. LT I heard you're going to be
Speaker 4: on prop Quiz against Jed.
Speaker 2: You definitely did not hear that.
Speaker 4: Oh oh, I thought I heard that.
Speaker 2: I definitely you heard the opposite of that.
Speaker 3: That's any plus Work Island.
Speaker 2: Listen that you gotta have non podcast brain to do that,
Speaker 2: and I just don't have that kind of a thing.
Speaker 2: So Jed very grey quickly before we get going. How
Speaker 2: are things at MMA Fighting? What do you got going
Speaker 2: on this weekend?
Speaker 3: I mean, we're back, baby, like it's it. This is
Speaker 3: one of the very few times this year probably i'll
Speaker 3: be like genuinely super stoked about a fight card, both
Speaker 3: because this fight card's awesome and we just haven't had
Speaker 3: any for so long. Yeah, so, like you know, it's
Speaker 3: our standard fair. We got wayns going on now or soon.
Speaker 3: We'll have a preview show today and tomorrow, me and
Speaker 3: the Honorable Mike kech we'll be doing our watch along
Speaker 3: that we always do, so chut, you know, stop in,
Speaker 3: hang out with us. A few new gimmicks, a few
Speaker 3: new things happening. We're going live early to celebrate the
Speaker 3: new one. Luke, do you know? I mean, I know,
Speaker 3: you know, but I don't think we're celebrating enough the
Speaker 3: earlier star Time.
Speaker 4: Brother.
Speaker 2: It trusts me when I tell you I am. I
Speaker 2: told my wife this morning, I was like, I cannot
Speaker 2: wait for this earlier freaking star Time. With that in mind,
Speaker 2: you know we should do. Let's just get the show started,
Speaker 2: because this is all part of it and I really
Speaker 2: want to get into it. So let's let's kick things
Speaker 2: off shallby UFC three twenty four is upon us. The
Speaker 2: weigh ends are happening, and I think they're going to
Speaker 2: start in about fifty to forty five minutes and we'll
Speaker 2: have weigh end results for you on this lower third
Speaker 2: when they get going. But let's talk about it now,
Speaker 2: Jed UFC through twenty four. I got to tell you
Speaker 2: I liked the break. I know some people had some
Speaker 2: issues with the break and there was some belly aching
Speaker 2: about it, but I feel like a little bit of
Speaker 2: a pause has made us feel rejuvenated for the return.
Speaker 2: But there is one question that I keep getting and
Speaker 2: I want to talk more about the Paramount era more generally,
Speaker 2: But there's the first thing that's on my mind is
Speaker 2: a question people keep pitching to me. So I'm going
Speaker 2: to pitch it to you, namely, Okay, no more pay
Speaker 2: per view. It's gonna be in Paramount Plus. As you indicated,
Speaker 2: nine pm start time. All right, So we've already got
Speaker 2: a couple of changes baked in. But what else can
Speaker 2: UFC or Paramount do on this particular broadcast to really
Speaker 2: set the tone elevated in a way Because it's the
Speaker 2: first one on the Paramount era, what extra bells and
Speaker 2: whistles can or even should they add.
Speaker 3: That's a great question. The answer is going to be
Speaker 3: they're not going to do anything because this is the UFC.
Speaker 3: They are a finely tuned machine that is going to
Speaker 3: be the machine that it is. I would love to see.
Speaker 3: I mean, when they moved over to ESPN from Fox,
Speaker 3: and even when they moved to Fox. You know, I
Speaker 3: know you and I have been here that long, but
Speaker 3: most of the people watching this probably don't know. They
Speaker 3: always came with new graphics packages, which was just at
Speaker 3: least a nice thing to feel fresh and different as
Speaker 3: opposed to the same thing we've seen for the last
Speaker 3: seven years. I don't remember how long the ESPN dear was,
Speaker 3: so I expect something like that and that will be nice.
Speaker 3: Forgive me, I do not remember the name of the
Speaker 3: woman who is doing their analysis show. Do either of
Speaker 3: you have it? Kate, Abdough, Vinti Bettz k Yeah. So
Speaker 3: like they've brought a real professional in to sort of
Speaker 3: handle that, which I think will be good. You know,
Speaker 3: I can quibble with who they've got on their analyst
Speaker 3: desk or whatever, but I would I say this all
Speaker 3: the time, regardless of the new era. I would love
Speaker 3: for them to mix things up way more as far
Speaker 3: as bringing analysts on, right, they they sort of stick
Speaker 3: to stick to the same like six dudes or whatever.
Speaker 3: And I think it would just they have an infinite
Speaker 3: well of fighters, just throw a bunch of them on there,
Speaker 3: get like cycle new people in to give fresh perspectives
Speaker 3: on things, because especially when you get guys like Dominic
Speaker 3: Cruz and Michael Bisbing, I mean one Michael Bisbing, you know,
Speaker 3: has his own YouTube channel that's getting fairly big, so
Speaker 3: you're not getting new perspectives there. I would love for
Speaker 3: them to do stuff like that, and just a overhaul
Speaker 3: in the graphics package. Just something to make this feel
Speaker 3: fresh and new and interesting would I think be great.
Speaker 3: And I will probably see some of that, but I
Speaker 3: doubt there's going to be a sweeping overhaul because why
Speaker 3: would they. You know, they've got a successful recipe. I
Speaker 3: doubt they're gonna mess with it too much.
Speaker 2: I mostly agree. I mean, on the one hand, right,
Speaker 2: here's the issue. You definitely do want to jazz this
Speaker 2: up a little bit. As you indicated, Kate Abdo is
Speaker 2: going to be there. As we've already talked about previously,
Speaker 2: the earlier start time, the lack of the pay per view,
Speaker 2: So you definitely have a few things already in motion,
Speaker 2: but at the same time, you don't want to go
Speaker 2: so different that the public is like, what are we
Speaker 2: even looking at here? This looks like nothing I've ever
Speaker 2: seen before, and not in a good way, like in
Speaker 2: a unfamiliar way. Right, So I think to me, you know,
Speaker 2: yesterday Jed Dana White was asked about like the amount
Speaker 2: that the bonuses are going to be. They should have
Speaker 2: an announcement for that on the broadcast, right, I kind
Speaker 2: of feel like that's a no brainer. Whatever the new
Speaker 2: unless the number is something that they're not happy with
Speaker 2: or whatever. But if the new number is I'm going
Speaker 2: to make something up seventy five K, hundred K whatever
Speaker 2: it is. I know that they did the Mike boond thing,
Speaker 2: but I don't know if that's really going to hold.
Speaker 2: So have an announcement about what these things will be
Speaker 2: going forward, as you indicated in a new graphics package.
Speaker 2: But other than that, I actually don't think they should
Speaker 2: tinker with it too much. Just give people enough reason
Speaker 2: to be visually pleased about what they're looking at, and
Speaker 2: then set it up for the future. One last thing
Speaker 2: I will say, though someone asked me about this, and
Speaker 2: I have asked around and I cannot get a straight answer. Namely,
Speaker 2: ESPN plus Jed is and I don't know if this
Speaker 2: is true universally, but it's true for UFC is in
Speaker 2: seven to twenty P, but Paramount plus is ten EIGHTP.
Speaker 2: Now that doesn't mean that the UFC broadcast is guaranteed
Speaker 2: going to be true high definition at ten ADP. But
Speaker 2: at the same time, that to me would also be
Speaker 2: a really big upgrade to the viewers experience. And I think,
Speaker 2: go a really long way. Why don't I hear him?
Speaker 3: Dude, I didn't even get I've muted myself, Dude, I
Speaker 3: didn't even consider that. It's a really good point, I
Speaker 3: got it. Have you how much of you time have
Speaker 3: you spent on the new Paramount like that. It's not
Speaker 3: a new that their apps the same, but the UFC
Speaker 3: stuff on.
Speaker 4: It is new.
Speaker 2: And I've watched some Champions League.
Speaker 3: I have found the UFC stuff to be terrific because
Speaker 3: it's all there. It is. My biggest issue with fight
Speaker 3: Pass was always it was hard to find fights like
Speaker 3: you like you would have to put in the right
Speaker 3: like break the Da Vinci code to get to certain fights.
Speaker 3: Everything is pretty clean. It could it could work right,
Speaker 3: like they they they could use some new things because
Speaker 3: this is new. But the app itself I have been
Speaker 3: incredibly pleased with in my limited experience here, and I
Speaker 3: didn't even register that, like, oh yeah, we're actually getting
Speaker 3: much more high definition going forward. And of course, Loop,
Speaker 3: I know that this is this is a topic that
Speaker 3: rings very very close to your heart. If nothing else,
Speaker 3: if they do no changes, if it's the same production staff,
Speaker 3: it will still be post on a viable broadcaster, like
Speaker 3: we won't have the infinite issues that occur with ESPN.
Speaker 3: So I'm pretty pumped about it.
Speaker 2: Longnan Luke, you say you've had issues with NFL games
Speaker 2: on Paramount Plus.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, I'm not the biggest NFL fan, So I'll
Speaker 4: just like play a game, you know, walk around and
Speaker 4: do whatever around the house, and I come back and
Speaker 4: half the time it's frozen or audio is playing it's
Speaker 4: frozen like shit like that, and I'm like, well, this
Speaker 4: isn't great. But personally, dude, I use vit pass to
Speaker 4: watch a lot of my shit. I have an account
Speaker 4: from like a previous job so I don't even use
Speaker 4: ESPN Like, I haven't even used ESPN Plus really this
Speaker 4: whole time. So I'm not too worried about it as
Speaker 4: long as that account's still good. But uh yeah, not
Speaker 4: too optimistic about Paramount Plus.
Speaker 2: Gotta be again, I've watched live sports with Champions League
Speaker 2: and have and again, to my experience, whatever that is
Speaker 2: worth has been great, has been just fine, and has
Speaker 2: looked amazing and has been pretty great. But advancing the conversation,
Speaker 2: if I may about three twenty four in the UFC
Speaker 2: this Paramount era, when we think big picture and you
Speaker 2: think about what the UFC can or should do with
Speaker 2: this Paramount venture right now that it's kicking off and
Speaker 2: now that it's into high gears. If a boxing starts tonight,
Speaker 2: which again is kind of part of the whole thing,
Speaker 2: but separate from that, just the UFC, what would you
Speaker 2: say is the goal here? Is it to elevate to
Speaker 2: even further into the mainstream, is it to build stars?
Speaker 2: Is it to just generate more wealth? How do you
Speaker 2: understand what the UFC's core mission should be with this
Speaker 2: new arrangement.
Speaker 3: Well, what their core mission is and what their core
Speaker 3: mission should be very different because their core mission is
Speaker 3: to generate wealth. I think we both know that's true.
Speaker 3: Like they are just this is a money they are making,
Speaker 3: their printing money, and so like that's what their core
Speaker 3: mission is. I think as a ancillary product of that,
Speaker 3: and maybe as like a secondary goal, it will be
Speaker 3: to grow the sport more broadly, which I do believe
Speaker 3: this deal will do. Right, Like I, we have talked
Speaker 3: about a lot on various shows. I've talked about it
Speaker 3: with you, You've talked about everybody else, and I still
Speaker 3: don't think we have really acknowledged enough how big a
Speaker 3: deal the removal of a paywall for American sports fans is,
Speaker 3: there's a paywall, Paramount Plus isn't free. But like I
Speaker 3: have friends who tomorrow night don't watch fights, or maybe
Speaker 3: very occasionally watch the biggest fights, who already own Paramount Plus,
Speaker 3: and now it's not at one in the morning, they're like, yeah, man,
Speaker 3: I got nothing else going on on Saturday night. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna throw on the fights and see what happens. That's
Speaker 3: why they've put their best foot forward as far as
Speaker 3: action fights, which we'll get to and I do think
Speaker 3: that's gonna pay some dividends, not everybody can be a
Speaker 3: fight fan. It is a niche, but they are. They're
Speaker 3: casting a broader net with this deal, and there's some
Speaker 3: things I'd love to see them do in that regard
Speaker 3: that I think would would open up the sport even more,
Speaker 3: but I also think are probably unlikely to happen. Now
Speaker 3: you're muted.
Speaker 2: Sorry, my bad. I opened up my can of a
Speaker 2: and w root beer. It's nice, all right. Let's talk
Speaker 2: about the card itself here and before we get to
Speaker 2: the individual matchups themselves that we did lose. Obviously, the
Speaker 2: co main event from was going to be Kayla versus Amanda. Nevertheless,
Speaker 2: with that out of the picture, there is still there
Speaker 2: are complaints about next week's card that I think are
Speaker 2: a lot more valid. I gotta tell you, I like
Speaker 2: this card. Whether it's the one that should have been
Speaker 2: made with Arman, that's one question you can have. Whether
Speaker 2: there should be an interim title up for grabs is
Speaker 2: another question you can have. But just looking at the
Speaker 2: slate of fights this tells me everything. I really enjoy this.
Speaker 2: I'm going to give this one eight and a half
Speaker 2: out of ten. Maybe nine's a little strong. Eight and
Speaker 2: a half out of ten. Where were you on this.
Speaker 3: I'm right there. Nine if this still had Harrison noon
Speaker 3: as this is easy like nine to nine point five here,
Speaker 3: because that is the best fight on the card and
Speaker 3: we lost that. But even so, this is still a
Speaker 3: very good card and more importantly, and what I said
Speaker 3: in the last little bit there, this is an exciting card.
Speaker 3: Like I looking at this card top to bottom, and
Speaker 3: certainly the big fights right the main card and the
Speaker 3: middle prelim section, it is hard for me to imagine
Speaker 3: any of those fights sucking. Maybe one of them, like
Speaker 3: there may be one of those fights might not be
Speaker 3: the most compelling, but especially for people who maybe are
Speaker 3: tuning into the UC for the first time at the
Speaker 3: first time in a long time because of the change
Speaker 3: in price point. Basically, I, Luke, how could we possibly
Speaker 3: wake up? Tell me how Sunday morning could look? Man?
Speaker 3: That was boring. I did not have a good time
Speaker 3: watching justin Gaetgee fight said no one ever, like I
Speaker 3: think this card is going to be super fun. The
Speaker 3: quibbles with it are like how important are some of
Speaker 3: them these matchups? But they're even still mostly important. This
Speaker 3: is a great card.
Speaker 2: What kind of numbership or of viewership are you expecting
Speaker 2: what do you think I have?
Speaker 3: I genuinely have no concept for what like how that works.
Speaker 2: Because Okay, so the NFL game can get thirty million
Speaker 2: or more and that's the way. Are you doing that? Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're not doing that, But can they get ten, fifteen
Speaker 2: million something like that.
Speaker 3: I'll go lower than ten because my biggest issue with
Speaker 3: this card is a thing that we shouldn't frankly care
Speaker 3: about at all, and it is very stupid. But it's
Speaker 3: like they haven't promoted it. They have broadly promoted that
Speaker 3: the UFC is on paramount now like at NFL games,
Speaker 3: those commercials are run, but there was no like it
Speaker 3: starts January twenty fourth, tune in. It's been very limited
Speaker 3: in that regard, which is sort of odd to me
Speaker 3: because you would think this is the first one they've
Speaker 3: put such a good foot forward with the fights themselves,
Speaker 3: they would want to promote the hell out of this
Speaker 3: and try and lead with strong numbers. I doubt that
Speaker 3: that's gonna happen. But also, what's the lead in on
Speaker 3: this on Saturday? Like when are the NFL games?
Speaker 2: Are?
Speaker 3: They?
Speaker 2: Are they both a question that's a great See NFL schedule.
Speaker 3: They're both Sunday, so there's nothing Saturday, basically, I mean,
Speaker 3: there'll be hockey and whatever. But in basketball, ten feels
Speaker 3: like an ambitious goal. But let's say ten. Let's say
Speaker 3: they crack into double digits.
Speaker 2: I think that ten is fifteen seems high, especially if
Speaker 2: you don't have like a huge star on here. But
Speaker 2: I think ten with no paywall with you said, I
Speaker 2: haven't promoted it, but and Dana, I know we've had
Speaker 2: some questions about the degree to which he has promoted
Speaker 2: this card, and I think that that in terms of
Speaker 2: his enthusiasm. However, I have seen him kind of everywhere.
Speaker 2: He's playing poker with with TMZ's Harry I think what's
Speaker 2: his and Harry eleven, I forget his name, but you know,
Speaker 2: he did Complex, and he's doing all these sort of
Speaker 2: like the regular podcasts, and he did CBS and he
Speaker 2: did Blown and there's sort of a lot going on,
Speaker 2: and I don't know what that's all going to amount to,
Speaker 2: but like I don't know, Like this is more than
Speaker 2: I've seen him do in quite a long while.
Speaker 3: It's true, I honestly, because he has felt so ever present.
Speaker 3: Maybe I just missed that part of it, But like
Speaker 3: this week. They have done much more in general, right
Speaker 3: like they have been and especially the UFC on Paramount
Speaker 3: team has put out a lot of stuff. But it
Speaker 3: felt like that this could have been built up to
Speaker 3: over the you know, all of the NFL Playoffs, when
Speaker 3: CBS had games more than just the occasional commercial. Of course,
Speaker 3: they also did have the famous Golden Globes sequence, so
Speaker 3: maybe I'm just dead wrong on this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well that didn't do much.
Speaker 3: I mean's got a lot of people interested.
Speaker 2: Man, Before we talk about the main event itself here,
Speaker 2: which we're about to in just a moment, I think
Speaker 2: the conversation should start on UFC's expectations. So obviously Justin
Speaker 2: Gatchee is by no means out of this fight, But Jed,
Speaker 2: would you agree that's it feels to me a little
Speaker 2: bit like all eyes on Paddy pimblet like what Weather,
Speaker 2: Because this is even if you want to say Justin
Speaker 2: is passed it at thirty seven and pretty close to
Speaker 2: the end of his career, he still is to me
Speaker 2: a tougher fight than anyone he's had previously, so this
Speaker 2: would be still something of an escalation for him. Even
Speaker 2: if you want to say he's still fighting unks and
Speaker 2: more to the point, it just kind of seems like
Speaker 2: there is hope for this next generation of fighters, and
Speaker 2: part of what this paramount deal is is getting some
Speaker 2: of these guys a little bit more ably to the
Speaker 2: front of the line. Am I exaggerating the Paddy pimblet
Speaker 2: importance or do you share it?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: No, this is yeah, the one hundred percent, because he
Speaker 3: is the best bet they have, maybe not the best,
Speaker 3: but one of the very few bets the UFC has
Speaker 3: for like a real star. And I know the company
Speaker 3: at this point is so insulated from even needing like
Speaker 3: super big stars anymore, but it's still nice to have,
Speaker 3: Like it is a good thing to have people that
Speaker 3: people care about. And justin Gaegee is awesome and I
Speaker 3: love him like a family member, but he ain't that.
Speaker 3: And Patty, Patty has been Patty uniquely got over despite
Speaker 3: not being good, Like how many times in the history
Speaker 3: of the sport has a super popular fighter not been good?
Speaker 3: And now Patty's become good. I don't not here to
Speaker 3: detegrate the man, but like, if he can ascend, if
Speaker 3: he can get about wrapped around him, it sets obviously
Speaker 3: a monster fight with Ilio Tapuria business is just straight
Speaker 3: up better if Patty Pimbleic gets the job done. You know,
Speaker 3: the UFC will never need a fighter to win. But
Speaker 3: I mean, it's hard to argue that. It's not like
Speaker 3: they aren't wanting Patty Pimblet to come out victorious.
Speaker 2: Do you think he can be a big star in
Speaker 2: North America? Again, we're we're not in the pay per
Speaker 2: view business anymore, so how they measured that is a
Speaker 2: little bit different. What is your sense of his star potential?
Speaker 3: I assume so, because if you're a big star somewhere
Speaker 3: you can that sort of translates. And like he is
Speaker 3: infectiously fun, or at least the energy around him from
Speaker 3: the people who love him is he has already travels
Speaker 3: pretty well. You know, Patty the Battie is a fun
Speaker 3: ass song man, and that's sometimes that's all you need
Speaker 3: for a gimmick, Like, you don't need that much to
Speaker 3: have a gimmick that gets over. You need something that
Speaker 3: allows people to set aside their cynicism and whatever. And
Speaker 3: just like, man, this is fun and singing Oh Paddy
Speaker 3: the Bad like, that's fun. He has a lot of
Speaker 3: gimmicks working, and it obviously works very well in Liverpool
Speaker 3: and England, and it has started to work a little
Speaker 3: here if he can get the thing holding him back. Certainly,
Speaker 3: I think from broader appeal it has just been that
Speaker 3: he is not a champion, right he is not. He
Speaker 3: hasn't beaten anybody good frankly, but this is such a
Speaker 3: big moment for him. If it doesn't even matter afterwards,
Speaker 3: we say, oh, just engage. He's a little bit washed.
Speaker 3: That won't matter. He'll have a belt wrapped around him.
Speaker 3: He will be a UFC champion on the first big
Speaker 3: event for paramount ten million plus viewers. I think that'll
Speaker 3: that'll elevate him in a major way and get him,
Speaker 3: you know, not all the way over. It takes time
Speaker 3: to build stars anywhere, but it'll be a huge step
Speaker 3: to getting him like over over in North America.
Speaker 2: I saw he did some crossover. I don't know how
Speaker 2: much soccer you watch, but he did a crossover with
Speaker 2: the CBS Sports Golazo, people like Kate Abdo and Jamie
Speaker 2: Kriger and Big Meeks and dude. It did like big
Speaker 2: numbers on social, Like I don't know, I didn't see
Speaker 2: any other UFC fighter this week. Do any social that
Speaker 2: came anywhere close to what Patty was getting at least
Speaker 2: with some of those other Again, that's a little more
Speaker 2: eurocentric than North American centric, but just in terms of
Speaker 2: like aggregate numbers. Dude, that was the guy, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? He was he was, He was the
Speaker 2: he was the entree here in this fucking meal.
Speaker 3: So dude, he was on a fucking battlefield or whatever
Speaker 3: one of those video games with I'm trying to remember
Speaker 3: who all the people were where. He was one of
Speaker 3: the four dudes in that video game commercial. Like, uh,
Speaker 3: there's the fucking guy from high school musical. See I'm
Speaker 3: not old.
Speaker 2: And washed high school musical.
Speaker 3: No, but he's super famous. Some people like him, and
Speaker 3: he was also in Baywatch, and I just can't think
Speaker 3: of his goddamn name right now. I am also old
Speaker 3: and washed and my brain doesn't work anymore. Zach Efron,
Speaker 3: like zac Efron and a bunch of other folks in
Speaker 3: like a battlefield commercial. That's that ain't happening for anybody
Speaker 3: else on roster. He's he has the potential to really
Speaker 3: get over and they want him to and this is
Speaker 3: the best way to do it. There's a reason Patty's
Speaker 3: not waiting to fight Ilia or fighting on Zerukian. He's
Speaker 3: fighting the one that he can win and try and
Speaker 3: make him a thing, and God bless him at Maywell work.
Speaker 2: How many fights within a weight class so we're not
Speaker 2: talking weight class jumping, so I'm not talking about Ilia
Speaker 2: versus Islam for example. How many fights in the UFC
Speaker 2: are bigger than Ilia Taporia versus Patty Pimblet within the
Speaker 2: weight class itself?
Speaker 3: None. I don't like their fights. I might like more
Speaker 3: or that are better. I don't think there's a bigger
Speaker 3: fight in the sport outside of maybe a couple of,
Speaker 3: like you said, weight class jumping fights, right, Like, yes,
Speaker 3: you know, do we count Alex Peiro moving up to
Speaker 3: heavyweight as weight class jumping because maybe him.
Speaker 2: Versus yes, because he's the champion at two of five
Speaker 2: so yeah, but if Buddy actually just like bails to
Speaker 2: move up, like yeah, No, as far as intra divisional,
Speaker 2: it's the I think it's the biggest fight that the
Speaker 2: sport has. Interesting, all right, let's talk about the fight itself.
Speaker 2: We're going to get to the gay chee equation here.
Speaker 2: I know we've been kind of parting on Patty, but
Speaker 2: I think it's important. So let's start with Patty here
Speaker 2: in terms of the x's and o's. Where are you
Speaker 2: jed in the argument about the strength of schedule that
Speaker 2: Patty has faced A and then B What do you
Speaker 2: actually think that means for Saturday? Materially?
Speaker 3: I think it is unequivocally true that he has not
Speaker 3: faced good opposition. I don't think that that matters at all. Right, Like,
Speaker 3: it can be a factor in all I mean, it
Speaker 3: can be a factor in your holistic view of how
Speaker 3: the fight goes. But like, you don't fight good OPO
Speaker 3: until you fight good OPO. You know he can't. He could,
Speaker 3: I guess, have helped it, But like, I don't think
Speaker 3: that it is a significant bearing on him because he's
Speaker 3: fought a lot. He has fought people over the balance
Speaker 3: of his career who gave him opposition. It's not like
Speaker 3: he's spent his whole career mashing turds, right, Like he's
Speaker 3: he has beaten professional fighters, and even though at the
Speaker 3: time his wins came, especially in the UFC, they weren't
Speaker 3: like against guys at the peak of their powers. He's still,
Speaker 3: like I just I struggle to think that Justin Gaichie
Speaker 3: is going to come in and be like, I've never
Speaker 3: seen this before from Justin Gaigie. If he loses, he's
Speaker 3: gonna lose, not because Justin Gaigie's you know, because he's
Speaker 3: never fought a good guy. He's gonna lose because Justin
Speaker 3: Engage is better than him. But I it's also disingenuous
Speaker 3: to be like, actually, Patty Pimblet has fought very good people.
Speaker 3: He is not. Look at his UFC run is mostly terrible.
Speaker 3: And then as he started to fight good names, what
Speaker 3: does a win over Michael Chandler in the Year of
Speaker 3: Our Lord twenty twenty five mean? I don't think it
Speaker 3: means a whole lot, But the way he beat him
Speaker 3: is still good, Like that's still valuable to beat somebody dominantly,
Speaker 3: and so I don't think it matters too much. I
Speaker 3: think it is definitely true that he doesn't fall very
Speaker 3: good people.
Speaker 2: I'm okay, So I did this exercise. One of the
Speaker 2: things I love about five passes. Sometimes you can't do this,
Speaker 2: Like if you're trying to do this, for example, with
Speaker 2: like Robbie Lawler, it's it would take forever. But in
Speaker 2: the case of someone like Patty Pimblet, you can just
Speaker 2: watch their whole much of their entire career, soay again,
Speaker 2: whole career. Basically, yeah, I watched his entire UFC run
Speaker 2: in chronological order, from the beginning to the last one,
Speaker 2: the Chandler fight, and just watching what we could see.
Speaker 2: What were the mistakes that keeps showing up. My man's
Speaker 2: got a problem with defending the left hook. That is
Speaker 2: a big issue for him. However, dude, here's what I
Speaker 2: would come Here's why I come down on this question
Speaker 2: of like his opposition to your point. You know, he's
Speaker 2: been doing the Joaquing Buckley thing where he's just fighting unks,
Speaker 2: and then you know, the question is, could it be
Speaker 2: the same thing as Buckley where you fight like the
Speaker 2: boss unk in in kamar Usman and you come up short?
Speaker 2: Is just in Gaatechie something like that? I guess we're
Speaker 2: gonna find out. However, if you just watch his game
Speaker 2: from that first fight in UFC until the one of
Speaker 2: the Chandler one, the level of progress is absolutely manifestly undeniable,
Speaker 2: and it surprised me in ways that I wasn't necessarily expecting.
Speaker 2: You know, the funny part was, so when gatechee, excuse me,
Speaker 2: when pimblet came to the UFC Jed, so he made
Speaker 2: his UFC debut. He had already had nearly twenty fights,
Speaker 2: and my general view is if someone has that many
Speaker 2: fights before they get to the UFC, on one hand,
Speaker 2: that's good experience. On the other hand, if there's still
Speaker 2: got really bad striking, then this is a bit of
Speaker 2: a red flag. And it could have been there were
Speaker 2: times he got his shit rocked and then survived. However,
Speaker 2: what has happened is he has kind of I think
Speaker 2: developed beyond even what I necessarily thought possible. He has
Speaker 2: improved so much so we already know his back attacks
Speaker 2: were great. We already know his submissions from the back
Speaker 2: are pretty great. He's got really really good ability there.
Speaker 2: But the stand up Jed the stand up for me,
Speaker 2: both in how he sets things up, putting more fakes
Speaker 2: and faints in front of them, not overrunning position, putting
Speaker 2: combinations together right, have better footwork but steadier balance, Like dude,
Speaker 2: my man has clearly leveled up a few different times.
Speaker 2: And whether or not you think he can be just
Speaker 2: engaged you, we'll get to that in just a moment.
Speaker 2: But the notion that, oh, well, he hasn't beaten any one,
Speaker 2: So therefore we can't learn anything. I just think there's
Speaker 2: no truth to that whatsoever. The tape is very clear
Speaker 2: and to say nothing, Jed, would you not agree he's
Speaker 2: physically much bigger than he was even when he started
Speaker 2: in the UFC.
Speaker 3: He is. I was rewatching stuff this week in prep for,
Speaker 3: you know, the various things he is. Just like, he
Speaker 3: was so cartoonishly bigger than Michael Chandler in that fight
Speaker 3: and he did the Honestly kind of thought it was
Speaker 3: a pretty good gimmick from him when they did their
Speaker 3: first face off and he he slouched and got himself
Speaker 3: real small. And then they did their face off yesterday
Speaker 3: and justin Gator's like, holy shit, did you grow three inches? Happened?
Speaker 3: Like he's a big, big man and I think that
Speaker 3: matters a lot for how his game goes. But like, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's basically that's my point. LUDE was like, that dude
Speaker 3: is better. I did not think he had a future
Speaker 3: when he came to the UFC. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 3: he's just gonna be Molly McCann. He might get some wins,
Speaker 3: he'll be super popular. They can take him to England
Speaker 3: every time they go, and the crowd will be live
Speaker 3: and maybe you can manufacture him a run. But at
Speaker 3: the time, like I remember doing segments being like, how
Speaker 3: do we manufacture a title shot? Like how do we
Speaker 3: pick and choose his way up the rank is like
Speaker 3: you can't once it gets to six, There's just no
Speaker 3: world he can climate, and that has been demonstrably false.
Speaker 3: Like he has gotten progress in this sport is not
Speaker 3: linear by any stretch of the imagination, But Patty has
Speaker 3: linear progress, Like he is better every time we see him,
Speaker 3: which is really impressive to your point, man, like when
Speaker 3: you have twenty fights, the cakes kind of baked, not
Speaker 3: so for him, and so like he's still got a
Speaker 3: lot of flaws in my opinion, and his striking like
Speaker 3: has come a long way, but I mostly think it's
Speaker 3: come offensively and defensively. He's still a bit of a mess,
Speaker 3: but like that might just not matter. So he has
Speaker 3: been like incredibly impressive in his ability to continue to improve.
Speaker 3: And like I think fighters say I'm going to prove
Speaker 3: you all wrong way too much. It's just sort of
Speaker 3: wiring in their brain. But like Patty had legitimate haters.
Speaker 3: I was one of them, and I have been forced
Speaker 3: to eat cro time and time again as he has
Speaker 3: continued to compete very high level.
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna say one last thing on this before
Speaker 2: we talk about Gai Chee for me personally, you know,
Speaker 2: all the belly aching. Oh, the UFC gave him all
Speaker 2: these extra opportunities against guys that were too weak, just
Speaker 2: to build them up. Yeah, they did, they did. Here's
Speaker 2: the thing. If he makes good on it, though, it
Speaker 2: will have all been worth it, because then they'll have
Speaker 2: promoted someone who feasted on lesser talent as he got
Speaker 2: better and better and better, and then by the time
Speaker 2: he had to face some the real consequences, you know,
Speaker 2: real stakes, he was ready for it at that point,
Speaker 2: like it would actually be again if he loses. This
Speaker 2: as a different consideration, but if Patty wins on Saturday,
Speaker 2: it's actually proof of concept that what the UFC did
Speaker 2: with him was very much the correct call. Some guys
Speaker 2: get favoritism, and that is unfair in the fight game.
Speaker 2: And a lot of times fighters get favoritism and they
Speaker 2: can't make it work. But sometimes they do, and if
Speaker 2: they're able to make it work, the entire thing ends
Speaker 2: up being bigger than the sum of its parts. Now
Speaker 2: let's talk about go ahead.
Speaker 3: That's just called development like that is, it's just prospect development.
Speaker 3: It happens in boxing because specific orgs own specific fighters,
Speaker 3: so they are developing these guys. The UFC just owns everybody,
Speaker 3: and so their broad plan has been throw them all together.
Speaker 3: Whoever comes out on top, that'll be fine, but that
Speaker 3: doesn't like this is way better way to do it.
Speaker 2: All right, Let's talk about justin Gaegee for a moment here.
Speaker 2: First of all, where are you on the very basic
Speaker 2: question of where his physical health is? Talking about the
Speaker 2: barbecue sauce that he had right and then also he
Speaker 2: made these fighter pay comments. He's clearly agitated about it.
Speaker 2: Yesterday he shut down Jose Young's when he followed up
Speaker 2: on it, and so he doesn't want to deal with
Speaker 2: it now, but it's on the back of his mind.
Speaker 2: There's like, I don't know, I'm not On the one hand,
Speaker 2: I'm not prepared whatsoever to be like, oh, he's not
Speaker 2: mentally locked in. I don't know if Gchi needs to
Speaker 2: be one mentally locked in, but I do bet that
Speaker 2: he is. I've bet come competition time he's ready to rock.
Speaker 2: At the same time, I don't know fair to say
Speaker 2: there are issues swirling around him at this point.
Speaker 3: I mean sort of, but like, I don't I'm with you.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's gonna matter because the issues swirling
Speaker 3: around him aren't like they don't seem to be the
Speaker 3: kind that might permeate when you are in fight or
Speaker 3: flight mode. And that's what will come tomorrow night, Like
Speaker 3: justin Gagi'll lock in, He're get in a fist fight,
Speaker 3: and at no point during that is he going to
Speaker 3: be like, oh man, I shouldn't have said that about
Speaker 3: fighter pay or like whatever. I will say. There's an
Speaker 3: issue I am concerned about with him, and that may
Speaker 3: play a role for as much as he wants to
Speaker 3: pretend that that's an ingrown hair, maybe it started as
Speaker 3: an ingrown hair. I don't know. On a medical doctor.
Speaker 3: You can see this fancy degree on my wall right here.
Speaker 3: I am not a medical doctor. That was not an
Speaker 3: ingrown air man. And the fact that it's still like
Speaker 3: covered up suggests to me that that probably was a
Speaker 3: bigger issue, and the concern there is not that like,
Speaker 3: oh no, he has staff going into the fight tomorrow.
Speaker 3: It's oh no, three weeks ago he had staff and
Speaker 3: was on antibiotics which effed up the you know, final
Speaker 3: most important part of your training schedule. So like that
Speaker 3: is stuff. I'm genuinely concerned about the fighter pay thing.
Speaker 3: I think he just wishes he could take that back,
Speaker 3: despite it being true or whatever, because that added, you know,
Speaker 3: an unnecessary thing to now talk about. And justin Gage,
Speaker 3: when he was before he said the fightle pay comments,
Speaker 3: I think I think it was before at media day
Speaker 3: he was like, yeah, my life. He was talking about
Speaker 3: how things have changed in his times, like I speak
Speaker 3: to the media less because I don't like you. And
Speaker 3: so I think that he's just like, man, I wish
Speaker 3: and said that because I don't I don't want to
Speaker 3: do this part of it. But that's not gonna affect him.
Speaker 4: On Saturday, we.
Speaker 2: Have a clip of Patty talking about what appears to
Speaker 2: be just engage you's staff. Let's see what he says.
Speaker 3: Did you see rumors of just having staff on his neck?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Seen it. It's one of them what it'll be meant
Speaker 5: to do, you know what I mean? Who's got staff?
Speaker 5: Like he's got staff, doesn't matter that he's got staff
Speaker 5: on I'm still gonna smash his head in both there's
Speaker 5: lads in our Jim move forward staff enough people out
Speaker 5: in the first round, so that doesn't affect that bad.
Speaker 5: That'll be another excuse for everyone went a wain.
Speaker 3: That'll be like, oh, just engage your stuff as well.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 5: So it's one of them.
Speaker 2: I get on with it.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be turning up in the cage and alls.
Speaker 5: That matters is if I tearing up, nobody beats me.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's about right. What else is
Speaker 2: he supposed to say? Here?
Speaker 3: Look, he's that was nails. He absolutely nails, Like, dude,
Speaker 3: I don't really care and beat him anyway. And it
Speaker 3: is true because there will be people not me, I
Speaker 3: think if Patty wins, unless it's like I'm trying to
Speaker 3: think of a scenario where a Patty victory would make
Speaker 3: me be like, actually, Justin probably would have beat him
Speaker 3: if he didn't have staff. But they're gonna be people
Speaker 3: who will just be like, yeah, you fought an old
Speaker 3: and compromise gae chee hooray. And that's fair for him
Speaker 3: to be like. They're gonna say it because they are,
Speaker 3: and it won't matter when he wins.
Speaker 2: Frankly, all right, So let's talk about the matchup itself.
Speaker 2: If I had to ask, what would you say for
Speaker 2: each fighter is their number one objective? And I don't
Speaker 2: mean just win, I mean in terms of like what
Speaker 2: you what what does the fight need to look like
Speaker 2: in either direction for you to have confidence that one
Speaker 2: fighter or the other is winning. So, for example, I
Speaker 2: personally believe just all one side of the equation. I
Speaker 2: won't spoil the whole thing. I think Gaegie has to pressure,
Speaker 2: and like pressure a lot, because you've got a guy
Speaker 2: in Patty who's gonna want to kick, kickkick and keep range.
Speaker 2: He's not gonna be a boxing range with a guy
Speaker 2: who can just lower the fucking boom on you, like
Speaker 2: justin Gaechie can. So if he's getting pressured, I'm a
Speaker 2: little bit more concerned about his chances. How do you
Speaker 2: see what some of the major fault lines are?
Speaker 3: Man, I wish you hadn't said that, because now Chad's
Speaker 3: gonna be like Jed's just copying Luke.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 3: I think I think the fault lines for both like
Speaker 3: you could broadly say keep it standing and take him
Speaker 3: down and be a dipshit loser who's not providing anything real.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 3: I think that is the same fault line for both dudes.
Speaker 3: I think both men need to be coming forward. I
Speaker 3: think both men need to be pressuring. Whoever is moving
Speaker 3: back is going to lose this fight, in my opinion,
Speaker 3: because Justin Gaigie is just frankly not that good fighting
Speaker 3: backwards in general, but stylistically it is. It certainly behooves
Speaker 3: him to your point to take away the range that
Speaker 3: Patty will have to put Patty on the back foot
Speaker 3: so he can't shoot as clean a takedown entries. He's
Speaker 3: not like a great wrestler, but like it's really hard
Speaker 3: to wrestle backing up like that, that is a very
Speaker 3: difficult thing to do. And more importantly, Patty is again
Speaker 3: I mentioned earlier man, he got some problems defensively loop
Speaker 3: And it's not just that his head hangs way up
Speaker 3: here begging to be hit. It's that when he backs up,
Speaker 3: he backs up. He has never taken an angle in
Speaker 3: his life as far as I've seen, like he backs
Speaker 3: up on a straight line. And so if you are
Speaker 3: just pushing him back, you're going to take that space
Speaker 3: away from him and make his life, his job way
Speaker 3: more difficult. So if I am, you know, Justin Gai Chee.
Speaker 3: That's like the whole thing in camp is forward pressure,
Speaker 3: forward pressure, and maybe don't get like too chaotic because
Speaker 3: that might open up opportunities for Patty. It's the same
Speaker 3: because Justin Gai Chee is not very good on the
Speaker 3: back foot. I know that this fight is a very
Speaker 3: long time ago at this point and Patty a but
Speaker 3: like Habib just beat the hell out of Justin Gai
Speaker 3: Chee by making him back up, and Gage's better at
Speaker 3: moving on angles. He was circling, he was on his bike,
Speaker 3: but like Habib was just in his fucking grill man
Speaker 3: and eventually that he backed him up so much and
Speaker 3: he wasn't so focused on shooting. Habib was pressure pressure,
Speaker 3: striking and then finally took the shot, like at the
Speaker 3: end of that first round. I think something very similar
Speaker 3: for Patty. Move forward, be in his face, pressure him, Oh,
Speaker 3: be open to the striking, right, you don't have to
Speaker 3: spam takedowns. And then once once go Chee's in the
Speaker 3: middle of a firefight, that's when you change levels and
Speaker 3: then it's curtains.
Speaker 2: Can Patty pimmelet win without getting a takedown or getting
Speaker 2: to the back Yes.
Speaker 3: I think he has also one of the like as
Speaker 3: I was breaking this down, a thing that really jumped
Speaker 3: out of me. I don't think he would be favored.
Speaker 3: I want to be super super clear here about that.
Speaker 3: But he can crack a little bit. Geechee is not
Speaker 3: the same person he has been. I think that Gechee
Speaker 3: can take a shot from Patty just fine. But I think,
Speaker 3: you know, there are some opportunities. Patty's kicking game has
Speaker 3: come a long way, which is super helpful, especially because
Speaker 3: gay Chee might be less inclined to kick for fear
Speaker 3: of takedowns, which I think would be a mistake. But
Speaker 3: that's a whole separate issue. But Patty's also started to like,
Speaker 3: really like to throw uppercuts. He was doing that a
Speaker 3: lot against Michael Chandler or looking forward a lot aiains
Speaker 3: Michael Chandler, both because of the stature. Michael Chandler's just
Speaker 3: shorter than him, makes Zupper cut better. But I think
Speaker 3: that that would be like a pretty Justin ducks his
Speaker 3: head like a lot, and so Justin really comes down
Speaker 3: with it. You just start firing some uppercuts in there,
Speaker 3: and good things might really happen. That may like ultimately,
Speaker 3: I guess I'm actually going to totally change my answer
Speaker 3: because I'm really bad at doing TV TV. But like
Speaker 3: the answer is probably no because he's not gonna cold
Speaker 3: Justin and so if when he gets Justin Gatgee hurt,
Speaker 3: he's going to immediately grapple, but like he probably doesn't
Speaker 3: need to be grappling forward. It is just a way
Speaker 3: better idea in my opinion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm of the belief that it could happen.
Speaker 2: You mentioned the uppercut that uppercut right hook is or
Speaker 2: excuse me, the uppercut left hook. I think that's right.
Speaker 2: The uppercut hook from Patty is one of his favorite
Speaker 2: combos and he's actually he used to just kind of
Speaker 2: lunge into it and now he actually sets it up
Speaker 2: pretty well. So to me, that's pretty potent. What I
Speaker 2: would say is, I know we need to move on
Speaker 2: here to some other fights. But what I would say is,
Speaker 2: I think he can win on the feet, but I
Speaker 2: do think it's probably more likely than not he wouldn't
Speaker 2: last thing on this. In terms of the x's and o's,
Speaker 2: do you what is your level of confidence in a
Speaker 2: Let's okay, let's say it goes the distance. Let's say
Speaker 2: it goes the distance, how many takedowns does and why
Speaker 2: count takedowns were count Matt returns? How many takedowns does
Speaker 2: Patty get?
Speaker 3: Two or three? If this goes the distance, I feel
Speaker 3: pretty good that it. Justin Gegee has won this fight
Speaker 3: because Patty has been mostly durable in his career and.
Speaker 2: Els sorcerers don't get knocked out.
Speaker 3: As yeah sorcers. Sorcerers do not get knocked out. Who
Speaker 3: said Cody uh Dardarah?
Speaker 4: No, it was the guar brand Cody Garbran.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, man, Like he's been fairly durable and so
Speaker 3: to me, if this fight goes to the distance, like
Speaker 3: to the cards, it is. Gechee mostly kept it standing.
Speaker 3: Patty was durable enough, and Geechee didn't like really force
Speaker 3: the issue. He was just very comfortable beating his ass
Speaker 3: with a jab that he never uses. But like, if
Speaker 3: this goes because if this ever, if he gets takedowns,
Speaker 3: he's it's over. I have no confidence in Justin Geechee
Speaker 3: to like spend twenty minutes on bottom not getting tapped.
Speaker 3: If he if Patty is consistently getting takedowns, this fight
Speaker 3: is done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that I agree with, Or if he gets to
Speaker 2: ount or something like that. I think, and there's time
Speaker 2: if he gets mount, let's say, and there's two minutes
Speaker 2: left in the round, that's that's a bad sign for him.
Speaker 2: We do have a clip of Justin who reasserts his
Speaker 2: ability that eating ko anybody.
Speaker 4: Patty has said from day one and have come into
Speaker 4: the UFC, scousers can't get knocked out. How much are
Speaker 4: you're looking forward to prove you not wrong?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't have to be a doctor to know that.
Speaker 7: If you have a brain, you can get shut off
Speaker 7: if I just shake it. And so I'll show him,
Speaker 7: you know, if I could shake his head and make
Speaker 7: his brain touch his skull, he's gonna go to sleep.
Speaker 7: The only thing appeals to me right now is knocking
Speaker 7: a scouser out and representing America.
Speaker 3: And that's what I'm here to do. Dude, that's such
Speaker 3: a cold fucking line. Doesn't take a doctor to make
Speaker 3: his to know, make his brain touch his skull. It's
Speaker 3: just like, all right, you're a different kind of dude
Speaker 3: than I am. Just engaging.
Speaker 2: He has thought long and hard about it, as you
Speaker 2: can tell, all right, And if you would care to
Speaker 2: hazard or prediction again, I do these for fun because
Speaker 2: I have no fucking idea who's gonna win. But what
Speaker 2: do you think, Jed.
Speaker 3: I'm wanna be very clear, this is not smart. This
Speaker 3: is lizard brain, Jed. They're inside every man there too.
Speaker 3: Man One is a rational actor and the other is
Speaker 3: a lizard and lizard brain. Jed has taken the wheel
Speaker 3: and he'll be picking Justin Gaigie. Not for any technical
Speaker 3: or logical reasons, but because if Justin Gachie loses to
Speaker 3: Patty Pimblet, He's probably going to retire and I am
Speaker 3: simply not prepared for that. He's the most exciting fighter
Speaker 3: in the history of the sport and I would like
Speaker 3: to see him continue to compete. So, uh, Justin Gaichie
Speaker 3: knocks that big old scouse aer out. He proves that
Speaker 3: he can in fact make his brain touch his skull,
Speaker 3: and uh, I don't know, Like second third round, t
Speaker 3: KO win for Justin Gagee.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Patty. I'm gonna go Patty. Now, this
Speaker 2: is the this is the rub. I don't know. I
Speaker 2: don't know. I've just feel like one way or the other,
Speaker 2: he's going to be able to get it done. So
Speaker 2: I'll say t KO. But that's maybe not be right
Speaker 2: because he could his ground and pound wasn't bad against Chandler,
Speaker 2: but Chandler was squirmy underneath, so it's a little harder
Speaker 2: to you know, I'll say sub.
Speaker 3: I think I think sub is a much better choice than.
Speaker 2: I'll think he'll sub. All right, long Island prediction from
Speaker 2: the main event.
Speaker 4: I did no bets barred earlier this week with Jed,
Speaker 4: and he convinced me, Man, we gotta go justin Gaigie here,
Speaker 4: justin gaechie Ko. I agree with Jed. I think round
Speaker 4: two or three, I'll say round two. H One thing
Speaker 4: I want to just bring up is everyone's all up
Speaker 4: in arms about Paddy vaping in this video here, and
Speaker 4: they're like, what the fuck? I bet on Patty and
Speaker 4: he's vaping. But like people forget man, Justin Goichie. My
Speaker 4: man rips that damn I mean iron lung justin Goichie here,
Speaker 4: I'm taking it's.
Speaker 3: Just lung training.
Speaker 4: All that is.
Speaker 2: Where did he get this bong?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 2: Other than this is an oil rig?
Speaker 4: This is not a bong technically, you know.
Speaker 3: What the fuck is an oil rig?
Speaker 4: You put like hashill wax butter, you know, shit like that.
Speaker 3: And it and goddamn spaceship.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Bro, this guy's like, oh, yeah, this is where you know.
Speaker 2: It's not a it's not a bong, it's an oil rig.
Speaker 2: This is where you smoke things like gee, these guys
Speaker 2: are out here smoking alternative butters and then being like,
Speaker 2: how can you not know it's called an oil rig?
Speaker 2: I don't know because I have a mortgage in a family.
Speaker 2: What do you mean, what kind of a question is that.
Speaker 3: Don't act like you didn't do sativa or whatever.
Speaker 2: All right, let's go talk about our comin event now,
Speaker 2: which again, originally it was scheduled scheduled to be Amanda
Speaker 2: Nunez taking on Kayla Harrison, that is postponed for the
Speaker 2: foreseeable future. So in steps a man who we all
Speaker 2: left on the side of the at least the title
Speaker 2: shot road. But here he is back in a fight
Speaker 2: that by itself, you would just look out on paper
Speaker 2: and you would say, oh, I don't know if this
Speaker 2: is gonna put him back in a title shot, but
Speaker 2: it just might do it. Sean O'Malley is back after
Speaker 2: losing in back to back fights to Marob Dawallash Wheeley.
Speaker 2: He takes on Song you dong, And this is the question, obviously,
Speaker 2: Jed on everyone's mind. It has been my thought, and
Speaker 2: I'm guessing it's gonna be I think it's the entire
Speaker 2: world's fight, right. We all thought that after Mirob beat
Speaker 2: him the second time, it's like, oh, well, now Morob
Speaker 2: is lapping the competition. But then things change at the
Speaker 2: end of twenty twenty five and Pyotr Jan recaptured the title,
Speaker 2: and now Yon is looking at either Umar and Numergamdov
Speaker 2: potential fight if he wins. We'll talk about that later.
Speaker 2: Certainly Morob is gonna get back in there, I'm sure
Speaker 2: without having to fight another one. But then Sean O'Malley,
Speaker 2: who has a win over Yon, a controversial split decision
Speaker 2: win over Yan, who, by the way, Jed is an American,
Speaker 2: and I think guys who are American. I'm not saying
Speaker 2: this like people think I'm saying this pejoratively. I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying it like to the extent possible objectively,
Speaker 2: which is that I think if you're in a young
Speaker 2: American particularly have an electric, you know, friendly style, they're
Speaker 2: gonna start moving you to bigger opportunities if you can
Speaker 2: kind of keep winning, maybe a little bit faster than
Speaker 2: they normally would. Song, you dong to me, is I
Speaker 2: think a very good fighter, but hasn't beat anyone like
Speaker 2: Sean O'Malley. So the question is, Jed, it's it's title
Speaker 2: shot city. If he wins, this is it?
Speaker 5: Not?
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, this is like, this is the fight where
Speaker 3: I'm way more concerned about, like the level of competition
Speaker 3: because Song has has fought good fighters and hasn't beaten them,
Speaker 3: and so it's like, Okay, we feel like we have
Speaker 3: a ceiling on you. And the question is is Sean
Speaker 3: a good fighter? Because he's also had a weird up
Speaker 3: and down run, but like he is a good fighter.
Speaker 3: The eyeballs show you that he's a good fighter, and uh,
Speaker 3: he is. This is this is a bit like the
Speaker 3: Patty combo here, Luke, And they're like, yeah, is this
Speaker 3: is this right? Is this the proper way? No, but
Speaker 3: we're developing stars and a hundred percent if he beats
Speaker 3: maybe ninety five percent, because certainty's tough. If he beats Song,
Speaker 3: he is fighting Pyodion. I think not at the White House,
Speaker 3: but like I think he is challenging Pyodion next in
Speaker 3: a rematch if he beats Song you Dong on Saturday,
Speaker 3: which is insane, but like, eh, here we are.
Speaker 2: Why has okay? Obviously, Song your Dong's never been a champion.
Speaker 2: He has worked extensively on his English, but it's not
Speaker 2: his native language. By the way, credit to Sean O'Malley.
Speaker 2: The orcs on social media went after him for it
Speaker 2: when he apologized for the COVID mask, but actually thought
Speaker 2: it was a decent gesture that he apologized. Okay, putting
Speaker 2: that aside, though, why, in your estimation is the entire
Speaker 2: conversation about O'Malley and there let me let me, let
Speaker 2: me reframe the question. Should there be more of a
Speaker 2: conversation about the potential upside here of Song you Dong?
Speaker 2: Or is the amount that we're giving him, which is
Speaker 2: he could win but probably won't. Is that sufficient?
Speaker 3: That's a really good question. Look at you big brain
Speaker 3: on Luke over there, because.
Speaker 2: I have struggle with this because I just just did
Speaker 2: you see, for example, someone brought us up to me
Speaker 2: in my life chat and I hadn't seen it when
Speaker 2: they brought it up, but I went and I looked afterwards.
Speaker 2: Corey Sandhagen put out a big video on like basically
Speaker 2: why I mean, he didn't say it this way, but
Speaker 2: that why Song You Dong has like very little chance
Speaker 2: of beating Sean just based on how they fight and
Speaker 2: their styles and whatnot. And you know, taking that for
Speaker 2: what it is worth, Let's say that it is true.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's not, but let's say that it's true. It's like, okay, well,
Speaker 2: then that does kind of explain why no one's talking
Speaker 2: about Song You Dong. But I just kind of feel like,
Speaker 2: here's a guy who has kind of slowly put things
Speaker 2: together and he's leveled up and then kind of taking
Speaker 2: a step back, but then leveled up again and kind
Speaker 2: of taking a step back. Why are we discounting his
Speaker 2: opportunity here to actually really level up for the first
Speaker 2: time in a major way.
Speaker 3: I think the answer is a combination of factors, one
Speaker 3: being people don't think he's gonna win and spoiler alert,
Speaker 3: I'm kind of with him. I think the other is like,
Speaker 3: because he has had he's had stepbacks, like the worst
Speaker 3: moments right where he started to build momentum, got a
Speaker 3: big opportunity and then lost it, and it's very tough
Speaker 3: for people to stay current on you. And then like
Speaker 3: his last fight, the weirdness within and there was beating
Speaker 3: Suto's ass like that was an opportunity to get over
Speaker 3: and it ended in such a wonky way. And I
Speaker 3: think specifically for this fight outside of the people think
Speaker 3: Sean's gonna win and Seawan is a big star or whatever.
Speaker 3: I think it's also that this fight wasn't supposed to
Speaker 3: be here like this was how often are we really
Speaker 3: that focused on the feature bout of any card, right,
Speaker 3: And in the last couple of weeks this jolted up
Speaker 3: because we lost the Comaine and so now it's got scrutiny,
Speaker 3: more scrutiny, and the focus is going to be on
Speaker 3: Sean O'Malley because he is the much more known quantity.
Speaker 3: I do wonder, like I did not wonder until you
Speaker 3: asked the question, And now I'm sitting here thinking like
Speaker 3: it might have behooved the UFC to back him a
Speaker 3: little more, to at least back the option of him,
Speaker 3: because if he does go out there and beat Sean O'Malley,
Speaker 3: that's his big win. That is the win that elevates
Speaker 3: you to the top. And like, dude, he is twenty
Speaker 3: eight years old, you know he is a just a
Speaker 3: handsome man. I don't know how else to phrase it.
Speaker 3: I'm sure the chat will love that is a very
Speaker 3: handsome man.
Speaker 2: Did you see him in meeting Bangham? You just doing
Speaker 2: the whole bit.
Speaker 3: Look, I mean he probably wouldn't choose to do that
Speaker 3: with me, but did you see him a media day?
Speaker 3: That man has like effortless swag to him. And I
Speaker 3: don't know if you know this. He's Chinese and that's
Speaker 3: a fairly big market of people. And right now the
Speaker 3: best Chinese stars they have are Jeangweili, who is a
Speaker 3: billion years old, and they tried to make the Mountain
Speaker 3: Tiger a thing and then he just got gods like
Speaker 3: it might have been a better idea for the UC
Speaker 3: to give him a little more push, but it's not
Speaker 3: too late. And if he does beat Shawn O'Malley, I
Speaker 3: think they're going to try their best to put the
Speaker 3: rockets to him and see what they've got with him.
Speaker 2: Here's the I mean, they it's heads heads, you know,
Speaker 2: they win tails they I mean, this is not the phrase,
Speaker 2: but they kind of also went here twenty eight years old.
Speaker 2: Song it on as you mentioned Chinese. Uh, the thing
Speaker 2: I've been looking at this is they keep trying to
Speaker 2: level him up before he's ready. So he gets three wins,
Speaker 2: and after losing to Kyler Phillips, who's very good, he
Speaker 2: beats more Lavera, loses to Kyler Phillips, gets three wins
Speaker 2: in a row, then loses to San Haagen granted on
Speaker 2: a cup, but he was kinda.
Speaker 3: He's getting dumped.
Speaker 2: He was getting thumped a little bit. Then he beats
Speaker 2: Simone knocks him out quickly. He reads gutierres You're like, okay,
Speaker 2: So he's clearly a step up beyond, kind of like
Speaker 2: the ten to fifteen maybe even like seven to fifteen
Speaker 2: kind of guy. But then loses to Yond, then faces
Speaker 2: Shudo and then wins that one technically but under a
Speaker 2: cloud of scrutiny. This would be by or, I should
Speaker 2: say controversy. This would be by far his biggest win.
Speaker 2: It would be the most high profile win I would argue,
Speaker 2: even independent necessarily of the opponent himself. It would be
Speaker 2: the ultimate ultimate moment of transcendence that just he just
Speaker 2: hasn't really had anything kind of close to this. And
Speaker 2: I think the fact that his best win is probably
Speaker 2: again the Marlon Vera win that was twenty twenty. You
Speaker 2: know what I mean. He's had other wins sense and obviously,
Speaker 2: but that was like the high water market terms of
Speaker 2: a name or you know, a level of competition, like
Speaker 2: the fact that we're here. Yeah, yeah, well he's beaten
Speaker 2: better names obviously, but the suhun't win, Like what does
Speaker 2: that really mean? I think part of the reason why
Speaker 2: we're just kind of sleeping on him is just because,
Speaker 2: as you indicate, the styles don't necessarily favor it, but
Speaker 2: more to the point, like he's never really gotten close
Speaker 2: to beating the guy this thoroughly or to be this
Speaker 2: thor out to be the guy that's good, and I
Speaker 2: think that that gap has made it a little hard
Speaker 2: for people to appreciate. Same question, though, go ahead.
Speaker 3: I want to say something on this because, like, as
Speaker 3: you're going through it, I wanted to make sure I
Speaker 3: was right about this, and I looked at it. There's
Speaker 3: a little bit of Michael bisping here, and bear with
Speaker 3: me as as I try and lay in this plane.
Speaker 3: The opportunities he's had, they have not been hey, too much,
Speaker 3: too soon. It has not been like, oh here's Corey Sandagan,
Speaker 3: We're giving you a chance. It's Cory Sandy who's coming
Speaker 3: off back to back losses, and he couldn't get over
Speaker 3: like he that's the best duty fought and it was
Speaker 3: a very it was not a step up in like
Speaker 3: a this might be a bridge too far. I was like,
Speaker 3: this is a very winnable fight, and he did not
Speaker 3: win that fight at all. Same thing, Piertrion had three
Speaker 3: losses in a row when he fought song like, this
Speaker 3: was a real opportunity to hey, maybe you can win
Speaker 3: this this it's not too much an expectation. He lost.
Speaker 3: Same thing happened for most of bis Bing's career. When
Speaker 3: he finally fought good dudes, they beat him, and so
Speaker 3: he's sort of in that. But the good news is
Speaker 3: he's still twenty eight, Like he's still develop so like
Speaker 3: he's he's got room here. I think this might be
Speaker 3: a tough fight.
Speaker 2: For him, though I do think it's gonna be a
Speaker 2: tough fight. Form Okay, same kind of question I know
Speaker 2: by For example, I know Song You Dong has been
Speaker 2: working with Justin Flores, who also is the judo coach
Speaker 2: previously of ron A Rausi but currently Patty Pimblet. And
Speaker 2: I've seen Song You Doong working with him quite extensively
Speaker 2: if he has to stand at range with Sean O'Malley
Speaker 2: in a three round fight. I just don't like his chances.
Speaker 2: Is it takedown or bust for Song? You do on?
Speaker 3: Uh, it's not takedown or bust, but he needs needs
Speaker 3: to mix them like they need to be part of
Speaker 3: a holistic game plan to attack Shawn Amalley because I
Speaker 3: mean the range is a huge issue. Shawnamalley is a
Speaker 3: little bit taller I don't know how much, and thin
Speaker 3: a couple of inches. Uh, pretty significant reach advantage and
Speaker 3: just fights long much more like, much more long than
Speaker 3: Songy Dong does. Song's best weapon. You know, they are
Speaker 3: his his mits and so like he doesn't even have
Speaker 3: like a super.
Speaker 4: Sorry, guys, I got to interrupt with breaking news. Cameron
Speaker 4: Smotherman just weighs in one hundred and thirty five and
Speaker 4: a half, immediately walks off the scale. You know you're
Speaker 4: supposed to stand there for five seconds in flex, immediately
Speaker 4: walks off the scale, face plants on the fucking stage.
Speaker 4: They're helping him now that fight's gonna get canceled.
Speaker 2: So can you get video of this?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Fuck dude, I hope he's okay, yeah, I'm looking up
Speaker 2: my notes here. Cameron was set to face uh, let's
Speaker 2: see here, Ricky. Yes, the second fight on the card.
Speaker 2: I hope he's okay.
Speaker 3: We're trying to see if there's of it up yet.
Speaker 3: But nobody's got it dropped yet. Man, that is wild.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and obviously the commissions.
Speaker 3: Has that ever happened.
Speaker 2: I've definitely seen them.
Speaker 3: I've seen fighters get like and get help. I've never
Speaker 3: seen somebody face playing.
Speaker 2: I've seen them vomit. I've seen them vomit too. I
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know if I've seen face planting
Speaker 2: like that. That is. I guess we'll see.
Speaker 3: I hope he's all right because that sucks.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, fight's got to be off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's going to be a so again, I
Speaker 2: guess the prelims are going to start at five point
Speaker 2: thirty as opposed to five at this point.
Speaker 3: So it seems like, well.
Speaker 2: We get a video of this, we'll let you guys
Speaker 2: see it here. Just to wrap up on this particular conversation,
Speaker 2: is there a world where Sean O'Malley wins and then
Speaker 2: people are like, Okay, I know he got the win,
Speaker 2: but I don't want to see him fight yond Is
Speaker 2: there a way in which he could fuck this up
Speaker 2: even by getting the dub.
Speaker 3: Yes, I think it's pretty small because the idea of
Speaker 3: him fighting peodri On is just not really tethered to
Speaker 3: reality or merit. It's tethered to they had a fight
Speaker 3: and people like Sean, and that's the most important part
Speaker 3: of all of this. But like, I think Song and
Speaker 3: Dong is going to be a tough fight, not in
Speaker 3: the I think this, This to me lines up for
Speaker 3: like a fight where Sean Omalley wins comprehensively and not dominantly, right,
Speaker 3: Like he's not stylin on Sean or on Song. He's
Speaker 3: just winning like a professional fight winning, And so people
Speaker 3: won't be super juiced about it. But in a couple
Speaker 3: of months that won't matter because they will be juiced
Speaker 3: about Sean O'Malley fighting Pyotr Ryan again. And that just
Speaker 3: feels like there's a inertia there to it. So I
Speaker 3: suspect that that's how this will look. But if he really,
Speaker 3: like if Song and Dong exceeds my expectations and they
Speaker 3: go nip tuck and it is a he just edges
Speaker 3: it out. Congratulations Bob, you get the title fight you
Speaker 3: deserve against pyotor Yan.
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Speaker 2: of fights, we have the video of Cameron Smotherman. Let's
Speaker 2: take a look here, dude, I.
Speaker 3: Just saw this.
Speaker 5: Dude.
Speaker 3: It's like a full on flare flop, like he's in
Speaker 3: my head when like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was really bad and by the way, the
Speaker 4: whole way and has been like delayed because of it.
Speaker 4: They were just helping him on stage. The next fighter
Speaker 4: is just swinging now and Alex Perez miiss wait too worth,
Speaker 4: Oh great dude.
Speaker 3: Long Island. When you said he felt like in my
Speaker 3: head it just did like I don't know what I
Speaker 3: was visualizing, but the fact that even leaving the scale,
Speaker 3: he very obviously is just nobody's home, and it's just like,
Speaker 3: how did nobody see this coming and get to him?
Speaker 3: Like damn that?
Speaker 4: In the moment I thought it was, I was like,
Speaker 4: whoa is he pissed off about something? He just left it.
Speaker 2: Because he kind of walks forcefully forward, but it's because
Speaker 2: he can't keep his balance.
Speaker 3: He's walking forward because that's gravity taking his legs to the.
Speaker 2: One more time. I want to walk the audio listeners
Speaker 2: one more time. He walks off with it. He walks
Speaker 2: off and he's like stomping and he literally lands chest
Speaker 2: and chin first, not on his hands, which is always
Speaker 2: a bad fucking sign if they don't brace themselves with
Speaker 2: their hands. I uh, that was not great.
Speaker 3: Not this is like a train wreck.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: He gets his hands up just at the very end,
Speaker 3: So maybe it didn't like he didn't take it on
Speaker 3: the face.
Speaker 2: I know he did. He injured his face.
Speaker 4: At all like he looked okay. They were rehydrating him.
Speaker 4: Everyone seemed really concerned. There were a bunch of people
Speaker 4: around him. They walked him off stage, and then he
Speaker 4: was just sitting nearby. He had like Mark Ratner and
Speaker 4: everyone around him. But I don't really know what's going on.
Speaker 3: Wow, way cutting what a wonderful part of this sport.
Speaker 2: I hope he's okay. It's unfortunate that that's the place
Speaker 2: that we're in. Who else we have here? Someone else
Speaker 2: just made way to two of four? Oh, Modesta Sbukowskis
Speaker 2: made it a two of four. Man, that video is sketchy. Here,
Speaker 2: I'll have a wider angle on the camera smother in one. Oh,
Speaker 2: he does get his you're right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he gets right at the very end. So it's
Speaker 3: not as bad. But man, that is that's one of
Speaker 3: the scarier things I've ever seen a way.
Speaker 2: In that is. I don't see that very often.
Speaker 3: No, the positive is he won't be fighting and taking
Speaker 3: head trauma tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Okay, well yeah, but the other the downside is not
Speaker 2: gonna make any fucking money.
Speaker 3: He's not gonna make any money.
Speaker 2: That's also it's like you got to go through all
Speaker 2: of that and then there's no financial return. It's unfortunate.
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about the rest of this card
Speaker 2: if we can the parts that we don't have a
Speaker 2: way in situation yet. For any of these, we'll give
Speaker 2: it to you as we get it. Heavyweights, this is
Speaker 2: a fun little one. If I do say so myself,
Speaker 2: I kind of like this fight. I don't know exactly
Speaker 2: what it means, but hopefully Jed can tell us Waldo
Speaker 2: Cortez a Costa who had a phenomenal truly, I mean
Speaker 2: this a phenomenal, a weird but phenomenal twenty twenty five
Speaker 2: against the forty year old, but still quite relevant Derek Lewis.
Speaker 2: This is obviously them trying to get this heavyweight division
Speaker 2: putting permutations together. Jed that the fans would like to
Speaker 2: see Waldell Court has a coasta, surprisingly athletic, even though
Speaker 2: he's got a little bit of a belly. Derek Lewis,
Speaker 2: we know he's got his limits, but we certainly know
Speaker 2: he's got his strength and he's got a ton of
Speaker 2: veteran savvy. How much do you think this fight is
Speaker 2: important for the heavyweight division and what do you actually
Speaker 2: like most about this contest?
Speaker 3: It is shockingly important for the heavyweight division, which is wild. Like,
Speaker 3: if you had told me that this was going to
Speaker 3: be not just significant, but potentially a title conversation fight,
Speaker 3: if you told me this last year, if you like
Speaker 3: in January year ago, it'd have been like, what what
Speaker 3: are you talking about? What are you smoking? You're on
Speaker 3: that justin Gaechee oil rig, whatever the shit that was.
Speaker 3: And yet it's true because WCA had a great twenty
Speaker 3: twenty five four and one. Nobody even can like cares
Speaker 3: about the loss because he got momentum going Derek Lewis.
Speaker 3: Derek Lewis quietly on a two fight winning streak. Much
Speaker 3: has been made of the fact that Derek Lewis is
Speaker 3: Donald Trump's favorite fighter. And I think that if Derek
Speaker 3: Lewis gets to w they would very much like Derek
Speaker 3: Lewis to be fighting at the White House card. And
Speaker 3: who that's against. Maybe it's for an interim belt because
Speaker 3: we don't know what's up with Tom Aspall, And that's
Speaker 3: sort of the key to all of this is the
Speaker 3: Tom Aspinall question. Because he has apparently already had eye surgery,
Speaker 3: he may have more eye surgery to come. It is
Speaker 3: there's no timetable on his return at this point in time,
Speaker 3: and I don't think the UFC will strip him or
Speaker 3: even like pressure him to drop the belt like they've
Speaker 3: done with some other champions, just because the optics of
Speaker 3: that are super bad, given they let John pretend to
Speaker 3: be the champion for three years, whatever the hell that was.
Speaker 3: But an interim title fight with Cyril Gone is in
Speaker 3: play because maybe it's Cyril Gon versus ox Preyra. But
Speaker 3: if it's not, the winner of this fight's probably like
Speaker 3: right in the mix. Thanks for that. So this is
Speaker 3: like a shockingly relevant fight for the heavyweight title picture,
Speaker 3: which I wild.
Speaker 2: I'm looking as you mentioned at the rankings, as you indicated,
Speaker 2: kortes a Costa sitting at five, and it's the spot
Speaker 2: he has absolutely earned. Lewis at eight. But how far,
Speaker 2: as you indicated, is Trump's favorite fighter or one of
Speaker 2: them anyway, how far away could he be from a
Speaker 2: title shot or at a bare minimum jet a placement
Speaker 2: on the White House card? Right you really, I would
Speaker 2: obviously have to consider something like that. And then you
Speaker 2: look at who's ahead of a Costa, it's Blades, Pavlovich,
Speaker 2: Volkov and Gone, And there is some traffic there in
Speaker 2: terms of how he can ascend. But for a guy
Speaker 2: who had a phenomenal twenty twenty five and here he
Speaker 2: is picking right back up or twenty twenty five left
Speaker 2: off to pick up in twenty six, I mean, the
Speaker 2: momentum is clearly on his side. You know, I saw
Speaker 2: someone make a point. Maybe it was Ben Folks, Jed I,
Speaker 2: maybe with somebody else, I can't remember, but the point
Speaker 2: that they had made was it is very, very hard
Speaker 2: to stand out in the modern UFC. When they've got shows,
Speaker 2: you know, forty three week ends a year, right, and
Speaker 2: to say nothing of you know, all the stuff that's
Speaker 2: other happening, a Contender series or whatever. It could be
Speaker 2: hard to stand out. So one way to stand out
Speaker 2: is just to take a bunch of fights if you can,
Speaker 2: and just stay as busy as possible, and you might
Speaker 2: win some, you might lose some. But if you have
Speaker 2: like four three, certainly, but if you have four or
Speaker 2: more fights in a calendar year in five in certain cases,
Speaker 2: that is actually a way you can become memorable. That's
Speaker 2: exactly what Cotas of course to Acosta did. That's exactly
Speaker 2: the plan that he put into place, and now it
Speaker 2: has worked out swimmingly for him along the way. I
Speaker 2: actually feel like, not only is this one of the
Speaker 2: biggest opportunities for him in terms of name value, but
Speaker 2: it's proof of concept of what he kept trying, which
Speaker 2: was I will take any fight, any place, just to
Speaker 2: stay busy. And now the fans have a much clearer
Speaker 2: understanding of who he is.
Speaker 3: If Ben folks said that I'm I'm gonna fight him,
Speaker 3: because I've been saying that for like five years. Okay,
Speaker 3: the the US, he can't build stars in general. We
Speaker 3: talk about this all the time. We don't have to
Speaker 3: harp on it, like the single best way to build
Speaker 3: stardom in this sport is to fight a lot. Because
Speaker 3: look at what has happened to Shavkar Rokmanov. They forget
Speaker 3: that that motherfucker exists this for the last four years
Speaker 3: he was the the guy. He has come, he will
Speaker 3: reign at welterweight four years to come. And he sat
Speaker 3: out for a year now a year, and they forgot
Speaker 3: his ass after like six months. They're like, I don't
Speaker 3: give a shit about him, because if this is a
Speaker 3: sport with the memory of a like a dumb goldfish,
Speaker 3: not just a goldfish, a dumb goldfish. And the only
Speaker 3: way to break through that is to, you know, be
Speaker 3: Justin Gechee and the most exciting fighter of all time
Speaker 3: be Anderson Silva and win for ten straight years, which
Speaker 3: is really hard to do. Or fight a whole lot.
Speaker 3: Think of the like not these are not crossover breakthrough stars,
Speaker 3: but think of that tier of fighter who has done it.
Speaker 3: Donald Crony, super popular, Kevin Holland super popular. Waldo Corteza.
Speaker 3: Costa is the proof of this, because that dude one
Speaker 3: year ago today had just come off the most boring
Speaker 3: fight of all time against Rebellus to Spain, and nobody
Speaker 3: cared about him. And then he fought five times and
Speaker 3: he wore an eye patch and he got some KOs,
Speaker 3: and people like, hell yeah, he's on my TV every
Speaker 3: other weekend. It is hard not to know who he is.
Speaker 3: That's what you gotta do. I think more fighters are
Speaker 3: starting to open up to it, but that's it. Like,
Speaker 3: there are very few ways to break through and the
Speaker 3: most consistent. The easiest one to do is fight a
Speaker 3: whole lot.
Speaker 2: Is this matchup being made, Yes, of course it's a
Speaker 2: great pairing in terms of knockout potential. Obviously, is it
Speaker 2: also being made because their matchmakers are looking at Lewis
Speaker 2: at forty years of age and being like, he's definitely
Speaker 2: not done. But it's a little Neil Magne ish where
Speaker 2: this is just going to tell us one way or
Speaker 2: the other what we have in Corteza Costa.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, repeat that you dropped out from my audio
Speaker 3: for a minute.
Speaker 2: No worries. So the point the question is clearly they
Speaker 2: are putting these two guys together because it's a fun
Speaker 2: fight and it's got a good like they're putting this
Speaker 2: on the main card of the first show on Paramount,
Speaker 2: like obviously knockout potential is going to be a premium
Speaker 2: in terms of the matchmaking, of course, But is part
Speaker 2: of it also that they're kind of looking at Lewis
Speaker 2: even though he's still coming off two wins in a row,
Speaker 2: as something like a Neil Magni type where it's like,
Speaker 2: if we've got something with Cortze Costa, if he actually
Speaker 2: can do something, this fight is going to tell us
Speaker 2: about what that is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe not about like what he can do, but
Speaker 3: what what sort of how over he can get? Because like,
Speaker 3: I think we're past the point where Derek Lewis is
Speaker 3: a great gauge of talent in the heavyweight division. He
Speaker 3: is about to be forty two years old. He is
Speaker 3: a good gatekeeper to the top ten, but like Cortez
Speaker 3: Coost is already in the top ten. So I think
Speaker 3: this is more like a This is just a win
Speaker 3: win for them, right, because Derek Lewis is tremendously popular,
Speaker 3: and if he goes and gets a knockout over the
Speaker 3: like he is the hot thing. Walder Cotes Costa is
Speaker 3: the thing happening at heavyweight, him and Walter Walker, right,
Speaker 3: And so if Derek Lewis knocks out Walder Cotza Costa, shit,
Speaker 3: he's on three fight winning streak. They can absolutely throw
Speaker 3: his ass into an interim title fight, which is good business.
Speaker 3: And if he doesn't, if Waldock Cortes Costa knocks him out,
Speaker 3: you know, he he elevates. He he became popular, but
Speaker 3: not broadly popular a win over Derek Lewis. That's the
Speaker 3: sort of jumping pad, launching pad moment to get you
Speaker 3: to like a more broader fan base and so people
Speaker 3: know you and to be like a real heavyweight player
Speaker 3: for the casual fan.
Speaker 2: I think you're right this is one of the few
Speaker 2: fights on the card where I'm like, I'm not saying
Speaker 2: the UFC doesn't care who wins. They might have some preferences,
Speaker 2: particularly again for that White House card and Derek, but
Speaker 2: they'll be happy either way. If Derek gets a knockout, great,
Speaker 2: there's a lot you can do with that. If Corteza
Speaker 2: Costa gets a knockout, great, there's a lot you can
Speaker 2: do with that. And this is the case where you know,
Speaker 2: this isn't co promotion between two different rivals, and so
Speaker 2: the house wins every time no matter what. But like,
Speaker 2: it's not the same as it is in the main event,
Speaker 2: where they clearly would much rather have one guy win
Speaker 2: than the other. I think this one they'll just playing
Speaker 2: with house money in either direction. Uh do you fancy
Speaker 2: your prediction for this one?
Speaker 3: Jet I got well coast winning speed, right. I mean,
Speaker 3: he's he's just a more technical dude. He's faster, he's
Speaker 3: got better defense. I think Derek's a little bit washed Derek.
Speaker 3: I would be interested if Derek does maybe something different,
Speaker 3: if he goes for some takedowns, because Corteza Coasta has
Speaker 3: been pretty good at keeping it up. Derek Lewis is
Speaker 3: a demon if he's on top of you, which like
Speaker 3: he rarely ever is. And the real difference maker for
Speaker 3: me is Cortesa. Coasta's chin appears to be excellent. He
Speaker 3: has never really even been like hurt in the UFS.
Speaker 3: He's never been dropped, never been knocked out in MMA,
Speaker 3: got knocked down in boxing some, but in MMA, his
Speaker 3: chin has been very vulnerable. And Derek Lewis is Derek Lewis.
Speaker 3: He puts the lunch box Sonia, you can go down.
Speaker 3: But I have some level of confidence that if this
Speaker 3: dude can stand and lose to circuit Pelovitch right but
Speaker 3: not like be totally afraid of dying against him, that
Speaker 3: he can do the same against Derek Lewis and just
Speaker 3: be faster, and you know, Derek Lewis maybe gets jawd
Speaker 3: and goes out.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm getting breaking news here from Long Island. What
Speaker 2: can you tell us, Jesus age Christ.
Speaker 4: Figure it out. Just missed weight two and a half pounds,
Speaker 4: in addition to Alex Perez also missing weight two and
Speaker 4: a half pounds, in addition to Cameron Smotherman face planning
Speaker 4: after making weight, So there's a potential three bouts that
Speaker 4: could get canceled. Maybe we just got two fines and
Speaker 4: maybe just the smotherman cancelation.
Speaker 3: But can no chance the figure bout gets canceled, right.
Speaker 2: I don't think they'll cancel it. But I did not
Speaker 2: have high hopes for him in this contest anyway.
Speaker 3: And this, I think this is I think this is
Speaker 3: a great move on his part.
Speaker 4: Front.
Speaker 3: Dude, you know you're gonna lose. Take it. You didn't
Speaker 3: take a fine and try it a little bit a jet.
Speaker 4: It didn't look like an advantage an advantage weight miss.
Speaker 4: And it's like I took everything out of my body
Speaker 4: and still can't cut anymore yet.
Speaker 2: So I guess.
Speaker 3: I guess the media day when he was saying I
Speaker 3: was never actually a flyweight, I was just killing myself
Speaker 3: to make it I've always been abandon weight. That was true.
Speaker 2: Uh what a mess? All right for me? I'll go
Speaker 2: Cortes a Coasta. By the way, I think the speed
Speaker 2: a little more technical. Louis Lewis tends to feast more
Speaker 2: on not always, not always, but he tends to feast
Speaker 2: more on guys who are Cortesa coast is a little
Speaker 2: bit of a donk, but not really, whereas Lewis kind
Speaker 2: of feats more on guys who are just really out
Speaker 2: of their element. And I don't think I don't think
Speaker 2: Cortes Coast is that guy. All right. It brings us
Speaker 2: now to the women's fight on this main card and
Speaker 2: the opener of the card. I believe itself, right, my
Speaker 2: math is all Can we.
Speaker 3: Just pause for one moment to acknowledge that this is
Speaker 3: a ship show of a start for the USC. It's incredible.
Speaker 3: One dude almost dies, two guys sweat bangers.
Speaker 4: Also, lt. John Silva Arnold Allen is the first fight.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I just I just said it under my breath. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: fair enough. All right, let's talk about the women's fight
Speaker 2: on this card. Uh, it was supposed to be Alexa Grosso.
Speaker 2: She falls out and so in steps in Natalia Silva
Speaker 2: and she takes on Rose Nama Unis. Now, before I
Speaker 2: even ask you one question about this jet, I want
Speaker 2: to play a clip of hers about what she understands
Speaker 2: as her title shot potential in the event of a win.
Speaker 2: Let's roll it roast.
Speaker 4: Did I see you say that you are told if
Speaker 4: you win this fight, you will get a title shot.
Speaker 8: Yeah, even though I try and you know, wasn't gonna
Speaker 8: worry about that. And I'm still not too worried about
Speaker 8: you know, definitely like looking past this or anything, because
Speaker 8: you know, we got to stay one step ahead of
Speaker 8: you know, one step at a time. But it's definitely
Speaker 8: more motivating. It is more and I don't need any
Speaker 8: more motivation. I just want to win. And I'm also
Speaker 8: very excited to face somebody like Natalia, who's very exciting
Speaker 8: and she has I know she's got She's definitely got
Speaker 8: some very good talent. So it's it's very very exciting.
Speaker 2: She's three and three in her last six, she has
Speaker 2: won two of her last three. To the extent that
Speaker 2: this is relevant to you, are Miranda Maverick being the
Speaker 2: last of those in June twenty twenty four. Baby, that's right, Oh,
Speaker 2: that's right, that's right. She is thirty three years of age.
Speaker 2: Do you agree with the UFC giving her a title
Speaker 2: shot in the event of a win?
Speaker 3: Undred percent? This is very obvious Natalia Silva should be
Speaker 3: fighting for well, like, she's done everything that needs to
Speaker 3: be done to do it. She's she stepped in to
Speaker 3: take this fight. I frankly, I think very wisely because
Speaker 3: Who's Rose Long Islan Luke, Who's Rose? Originally supposed to
Speaker 3: fight here Alexa Grossa Grosso Lagrossa's right, And I think
Speaker 3: there was like a I think on the table. Maybe
Speaker 3: it wouldn't have happened, but it was very possible that
Speaker 3: if Rose beat Grosso, she was going to jump past
Speaker 3: Natalia Silva and get a title fight. And so when
Speaker 3: Grosso withdrew Nattie Ice was like a I fighter, because
Speaker 3: then that removes the possibility of that happened. I think
Speaker 3: it's pretty savvy from her, And yeah, this is just
Speaker 3: an obvious one like Rose is on a good winning streak,
Speaker 3: Like who else is going to fight? You could do
Speaker 3: Aaron Blanchefield, but Blanchefield does not like demanding it. And
Speaker 3: if Rose beats Natalia Silva, she will be the obvious
Speaker 3: choice for it because the only person ahead of her
Speaker 3: would be Manofjr. Manon just lost like she we don't
Speaker 3: need to do Manon versus Valve again. So I think
Speaker 3: this makes total sense as an outright number one contender
Speaker 3: bout the The UFC has broadly wanted to have Rose
Speaker 3: versus Valve for some time, basically since Rose said she
Speaker 3: was moving up and this won't even be like a
Speaker 3: nonsense one. If she beats Natalia, she deserves it, and
Speaker 3: so we can feel good that it's like a meritocratic
Speaker 3: one outside of just being good for business.
Speaker 2: Natalia Silva hasn't lost since twenty seventeen. Of course, that
Speaker 2: pre dates her time. Even inside the UFC, she is
Speaker 2: coming off of a win over Alexa Grosso, which was
Speaker 2: fairly one sided back at UC three fifteen. This was
Speaker 2: the Blah Mohammad and JDM card in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: That was the only time she fought that year. I'm
Speaker 2: not opposed to the idea of Rose getting one in
Speaker 2: part because if you'll recall, Rose and Valentina used to
Speaker 2: train together too briefly, there was a time where there
Speaker 2: was overlap, and so there's a little bit of that
Speaker 2: kind of storyline that they could interject. But to me,
Speaker 2: like again, I'm not gonna cry if Rose Damis gets
Speaker 2: a title shot. But to me, it's like Natalia Silva
Speaker 2: is the person who deserves the title shot with a
Speaker 2: win here. Obviously, with the wind, Rose wouldn't even be
Speaker 2: Elga or the loss, or to say, Rose wouldn't be Eligi.
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying like Silva's record of achievement is
Speaker 2: vastly greater at this not overall, but at the more
Speaker 2: recent stage of it. It's a fresh it's a fresh situation.
Speaker 2: I mean, I get again, if it's an American in
Speaker 2: a Brazilian and obviously in this case, you only only
Speaker 2: one winner can be that case they're going to get
Speaker 2: bumped to the front of the line. But the case
Speaker 2: for Roses, I don't know. I don't it's not that strong.
Speaker 2: To me, I get it, I get it. Promotionally, I
Speaker 2: believe me, I get it. It's what would do bigger numbers?
Speaker 2: Rose numby units versus Hipchenko or Talia silver versus Hipchenko.
Speaker 2: The answer is obvious, But at the same time, it's like,
Speaker 2: I think only one of these has really put themselves
Speaker 2: in a position to even be eligible for this kind
Speaker 2: of a thing. And as you point out, you know
Speaker 2: his Blanchefield screaming for a title shot. No, but she's
Speaker 2: coming off two wins in a row, which Rose is not.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't hate she wins in a row. If she
Speaker 3: beats the Silva, okay, well she'll be in the UFC
Speaker 3: rank if she beats Look if they gave her one
Speaker 3: now it would be stupid. And if they gave her
Speaker 3: one if she had beat Alexa Grosso, would be stupid,
Speaker 3: but very possible. She beats Nathalia Silva, she will either
Speaker 3: be number two or number three in the rankings. It
Speaker 3: will depend on whether the UFC ranking people or AI
Speaker 3: I don't remember if they've done that or not, put
Speaker 3: Aaron Blanchfield, who has a victory over her, above her.
Speaker 3: But Natalia Silva is number two in the rankings. The
Speaker 3: only person above her will either be Mina who fought
Speaker 3: val last year and lost, and Aaron Blanchefield. I think
Speaker 3: it'll be totally valid if she beats Ntalia Silva to
Speaker 3: give her a title fight. It won't be the greatest,
Speaker 3: most undeniable title fight of all time. But buddy, this
Speaker 3: card is being invented by an interim fight between Justin
Speaker 3: Gaegee and Patty Piblet. Next week, Diego Lopez is getting
Speaker 3: at Vault. We should be celebrating, even the semblance of
Speaker 3: meritocracy because that shit don't play no more.
Speaker 2: Man. Yeah, that's certainly a fair point. Where do you
Speaker 2: think Rose is as a fighter, clearly still capable enough
Speaker 2: to win, capable enough to beat good names by but
Speaker 2: it does seem like the gap in the lead she
Speaker 2: had on the division, it's clearly not there anymore. How
Speaker 2: do you assess that and in particular, how that matches
Speaker 2: up with Silva.
Speaker 3: I think Rose is the same fighter she's always been,
Speaker 3: because she's always been mercurial, right, and like her highs
Speaker 3: are as high as anybody who's ever competed at women's
Speaker 3: MMA realistically, but her floor is pretty low and is
Speaker 3: also like equally as likely to occur. And so the
Speaker 3: move up because if you really want to get you know,
Speaker 3: down to it. She's three and two since moving up
Speaker 3: to flyweight. Her first fight was very competitive with the
Speaker 3: undisputed number one fighter that's not Volenteership chingleman Offour, and
Speaker 3: that was her first fight in the weight class. If
Speaker 3: they fought again, maybe she can edge her out like
Speaker 3: that was. That was a very you know, back and
Speaker 3: forth sort of affair. And then Aaron Blanchefield beat her,
Speaker 3: but didn't beat her by a whole lot in Aaron
Speaker 3: Blaschfield's very good. So I think Rose, you know, Rose
Speaker 3: probably isn't a champion, but maybe she could be. And realistically,
Speaker 3: if you look at her title reigns at one twenty five.
Speaker 3: They weren't long sustained. Holy shit, no one can beat her.
Speaker 3: She lost a title fight to call a Sparsa like
Speaker 3: she she has super high highs, but she can just
Speaker 3: not She she can have bad days more frequently than
Speaker 3: other elite fighters can, and so she feels really tough
Speaker 3: to pin down, right like, because it is not like
Speaker 3: the Miranda Maverick fight was thrilling. She just won it.
Speaker 3: And so I think that she can beat anybody in
Speaker 3: this weight class. But she can lose to anybody in
Speaker 3: this weight class, which is not what most elite fighters
Speaker 3: are right Like, is Amakachev could be anybody at lightweight.
Speaker 3: He could also lose to like five of them. He
Speaker 3: couldn't lose to twenty of them. Rose is kind of
Speaker 3: weird in that regard where she could lose to a
Speaker 3: lot of fighters in this way class.
Speaker 2: By the way, again, I'm sorry to do this, but
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to get these breaking news. Smotherman Tercios
Speaker 2: officially canceled Cameron Smotherman. According to Alex Bhuonan is being
Speaker 2: transported to the hospital. The Perez and Figi bouts remain
Speaker 2: on so we've only lost one bout hopefully that's all
Speaker 2: that is there. And by the way, I think just
Speaker 2: Gaechee and cortez A Costa are the only two haven't
Speaker 2: waiting yet. Cortez Costa coming in too fat to make
Speaker 2: two sixty five would absolutely make this perfect. Can I
Speaker 2: just say that outloud? Dude?
Speaker 3: That would be My god'd be that would be great.
Speaker 3: It's waiting while doesn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, brock Lester had to cut to two
Speaker 2: sixty five, but you know, for very different reasons than
Speaker 2: Cortez Costa.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: The last thing I'll say on this is there's not
Speaker 2: a lot of chatter about Silva. And she plays like
Speaker 2: Monica Sellis played tennis, or she fights like Monica Selli's
Speaker 2: played tennis, where she kias like Holly Holm, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. Like yeah, and it's sort of the
Speaker 2: sort of a distinctive style of competition. But dude, she's
Speaker 2: fucking good.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you, I'm so excited that despite BC leaving,
Speaker 3: you're still going to keep old man references that none
Speaker 3: of your fucking viewers will get chat. Tell me if
Speaker 3: any of you know who the Monica Sells is, so.
Speaker 2: None of you know, Okay, let's bring it long. Ond Luke,
Speaker 2: do you know who Monica sell Us is?
Speaker 4: No idea? So I know it's Monica seller something, right.
Speaker 2: Are you not aware of a tennis player who was
Speaker 2: stabbed on the court by a crazed fan.
Speaker 4: I'm a big Johnny McEnroe guy. You know that's New
Speaker 4: Yorker's got to stick together. It's the only time.
Speaker 3: Look, I know who Monica sellis. I know the name.
Speaker 3: I could not pick her out of a crowd of two.
Speaker 2: When I was on Serious XM had an she was
Speaker 2: an intern but then eventually became a producer when they
Speaker 2: hired her full time. And this was twenty I'm gonna
Speaker 2: say circa twenty seventeen, so I'm thirty seven at the time,
Speaker 2: and she was I guess twenty one or twenty two,
Speaker 2: like right at the end of college, so somewhere around there,
Speaker 2: and Star Wars had just or one of the Star
Speaker 2: warses had come out, like the new New Ones. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, you know, Harrison Ford is
Speaker 2: in it. And she's like, who's Harrison Ford? And I'm like, right, okay.
Speaker 2: I was like, you've never seen Indiana Jones, Like Nope,
Speaker 2: don't even know what the fuck that is. I was like, so,
Speaker 2: here's how this works.
Speaker 3: You're more old in washed than I am. Can I
Speaker 3: tell you a very brief old wash story. Yeah, I'll
Speaker 3: keep it as very very brief because this was like
Speaker 3: genuinely one of my first, oh my fucking god, I'm
Speaker 3: old moments. And it happened last year. I met this girl.
Speaker 3: I went on a date with her. She's a little
Speaker 3: younger than me, she's thirty, and we were talking. Long
Speaker 3: story short. She was telling me about going paddleboarding down
Speaker 3: the river and getting stuck because she got too tired
Speaker 3: to go back up. And she was like, yeah, so
Speaker 3: I had to call one of my friends to come
Speaker 3: pick me up. Thank god, I have GPS on my phone.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine living in a world without GPS? And
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't have to imagine, bitch, I did.
Speaker 3: I used to print out math quest directions, how does
Speaker 3: the gap between us feel like a canyon? When it's
Speaker 3: six years? Is the oldest I've ever felt my whole life?
Speaker 2: Pretty out mapquist, bitch. I used to buy the books
Speaker 2: where you would have to like to like to go
Speaker 2: Yes Beltway.
Speaker 3: I had a map of Georgia in my car for
Speaker 3: a long time.
Speaker 2: The thing is, map quest would like give you directions
Speaker 2: like turn left here, turn right at the circle, whatever.
Speaker 2: But with the old way was you have to open
Speaker 2: the book, look at the map. You have to memorize, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm taking the third lane to the right on exit
Speaker 2: twenty four B. You'd have to have that whole thing
Speaker 2: mema fucking memorized behind the wheel of a car. And
Speaker 2: now'd be like, what could you do without GPS? Use
Speaker 2: your brain power, you fucking idiots out there, Just old
Speaker 2: washed dudes, old washed dudes, all right. To that end,
Speaker 2: Natalia Silva, very very good fighter, just hasn't made an
Speaker 2: imprint on the fan base yet. But I also think again,
Speaker 2: you just have to ask yourself what the promotion is
Speaker 2: doing here. They're using rose If she gets a big win,
Speaker 2: they can slot her up, and otherwise Natalia Silva gets
Speaker 2: a big win over a name to then slot up
Speaker 2: for a fresh title challenger in that particular case two Chevchenko.
Speaker 2: I think either way there's a significant upside for the
Speaker 2: fans and the promotion as well.
Speaker 3: One undred percent. These are bout like this and the
Speaker 3: WCA Derek Lues they're both win wins, the two top
Speaker 3: end fights. I think there's a clear side. Do us
Speaker 3: you prefer both of these? No wrong way to eat that? Reesus?
Speaker 2: I do love Reesi's Reesus is the king of candies.
Speaker 2: People are like, oh, the King of candies is like Snickers.
Speaker 2: If you're a fucking trader, it is Reese's peanut butter cups.
Speaker 2: Fuck heads. All right, Last, but not least for this
Speaker 2: main card. This fight to me was going under the radar,
Speaker 2: But I feel like this week things have really, I
Speaker 2: don't know, they've definitely come to life for this bout.
Speaker 2: Arnold Allen takes on Jayon Silva in one hundred and
Speaker 2: forty five pound match. That just you gotta absolutely freaking love.
Speaker 2: What a contest this is. I love everything about it. Now,
Speaker 2: before we do anything else, I have to play this.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, do we have the one of him talking
Speaker 2: about eating bugs? Do we have the eating bugs?
Speaker 4: Not Arnold Allen?
Speaker 2: Oh? What am I saying? What are my Jesus brain
Speaker 2: just not working?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 2: Let's start here if we can, Arnold Allen, let's use
Speaker 2: this clip. I'm going to play a clip for you
Speaker 2: about Silva insinuating why he even took this fight to
Speaker 2: begin with, and I want you to tell me what
Speaker 2: that tells you about the matchmaking go ahead.
Speaker 9: Well, what happened was this fight had been scheduled before
Speaker 9: he was Indoca, but he had to pull out because
Speaker 9: something some sort of injury in one of the shoulders,
Speaker 9: or you need to move move up in division or
Speaker 9: something of the sort.
Speaker 2: So we don't know.
Speaker 9: But he was also set up to fight Aaron Pico
Speaker 9: and he kind of backed that last minute, and you
Speaker 9: know that Short notices and take it. So is it
Speaker 9: that he took the fight against me or did the
Speaker 9: UFC make him ticket?
Speaker 2: Arnold has not been super busy, and that's been true
Speaker 2: for some time, but it's been especially true now and
Speaker 2: you realize he's still just thirty two. He should still
Speaker 2: be in his athletic prime. What do you make of
Speaker 2: what Silva says here?
Speaker 3: I mean, I doubt that the UFC made Onold Allen
Speaker 3: take this fight because I don't like, why would on
Speaker 3: it all and not want to take this fight. This
Speaker 3: is a great fight for Rod Allen. He might lose,
Speaker 3: I want to be really clear on that. But like
Speaker 3: John Silva's, guy's got juice Like these are the kind
Speaker 3: of fights you want if you are, especially a guy
Speaker 3: who's been forgotten because you haven't fought in eighteen months.
Speaker 3: And so John Silva says stuff. He is my boy,
Speaker 3: and I love him because I loved him for a
Speaker 3: long time before people started to love him. But he
Speaker 3: talks a whole lot, and I'm not even sure he
Speaker 3: knows what he's saying. He just sort of talks because
Speaker 3: he can't bark all the time. But if he could,
Speaker 3: if he could communicate exclusively through barks, trust that that's
Speaker 3: exactly what that man would be doing.
Speaker 2: We pull up my notes here. I apologize. Alan spoke
Speaker 2: to our friend Brian Campbell about some of his motivation
Speaker 2: coming into this contest. I want to play it and
Speaker 2: get your reaction.
Speaker 3: Do you feel like there's a motivation within you that
Speaker 3: like people kind of kind of forgot about that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, one hundred percent, you know. I want I'm pissed
Speaker 6: off right. I want to go and show how good
Speaker 6: I am. I want to remind people how good I am,
Speaker 6: with no questions, no asterixies. I want to go out
Speaker 6: and show you what I can do because I know
Speaker 6: how good I am, and I think a lot of
Speaker 6: people do, but definitely being written off in this fight,
Speaker 6: and that's that's cool.
Speaker 2: He's twenty and three is his official record, as I indicated,
Speaker 2: thirty two years of age. He is coming off the
Speaker 2: gig at Chakazi win over back to back losses and
Speaker 2: once in twenty twenty three of Max Holloway and then
Speaker 2: once in twenty twenty four of most are vloye of
Speaker 2: although both of those ended up having a pretty interesting
Speaker 2: degree of competitiveness. Are people sleeping on Arnold Allen has
Speaker 2: his absence and sort of quiet demeanor relative to Jayon Silva,
Speaker 2: who literally barks his way through press conferences. Have has
Speaker 2: the public forgotten about him as a relevant contender at one.
Speaker 3: One undred percent? Dude, I told Jordan they forgot about
Speaker 3: shove Gut. This is Arnt Allen. Arnt Allen didn't finish
Speaker 3: every dude he ever fought, and he's been out for
Speaker 3: eighteen months instead of just a year. Like, I love
Speaker 3: Arnt Allen. I have been a huge arn and alland
Speaker 3: supporter for a very long time. He's like he is.
Speaker 3: He's that weird nexus where like especially your media like
Speaker 3: more like me, less like you, though still some were
Speaker 3: like you want fighters to say quotes so you can
Speaker 3: write those and do something with that. Arnold does not
Speaker 3: do that at all. That was like one of the
Speaker 3: first times like, oh, that was like a pretty good
Speaker 3: little like a quote from alnret Allen. And yet I
Speaker 3: want to hear him talk at media day because I
Speaker 3: just like him, Like he seems like a dude who'd
Speaker 3: be great to have a beer with or go to
Speaker 3: Tesco with or whatever. And people are absolutely sleeping on him.
Speaker 3: They were sleeping on him before, right, Like the Max
Speaker 3: Holloway lost despite being competitive against Max Freakin Holloway really
Speaker 3: read as a oh, now we have an excuse to
Speaker 3: forget about this dude because he fights so infrequently and
Speaker 3: they just kind of want to. So I think he
Speaker 3: might lose. It's very, very possible that John Silva beats him.
Speaker 3: And it's hard to feel confident in Arnold aland coming
Speaker 3: off such a long layoff and being so hit or
Speaker 3: miss lately. But like, this is one of the six
Speaker 3: to seven best dudes in the world in his weight
Speaker 3: if he's on form, The question is is he on form?
Speaker 2: What I love about this contest is you got a
Speaker 2: guy in Silva who's a lot of offense, not much defense.
Speaker 2: And then you've got a guy in Allen who's a
Speaker 2: lot of defense. I'm not gonna say not much offense,
Speaker 2: but it's certainly defensively oriented. And then the question is, well,
Speaker 2: which one gives here? And Silva, Okay, he is coming
Speaker 2: off of a bad loss where he had some inspired moments,
Speaker 2: but you know, in general has been on a pretty
Speaker 2: good run. But again, I think there's a question of
Speaker 2: like what his defensive readiness is. But Arnold Allen has
Speaker 2: been in equently there as we've indicated, he is still
Speaker 2: very good. But still I don't think has reached his
Speaker 2: full potential with a win over Silva, who's just sitting
Speaker 2: at ten in the rankings. Jed, what does Allan prove exactly?
Speaker 3: I mean, some of it will be how he wins,
Speaker 3: right Like, if he wins a sort of classic Arnold
Speaker 3: Allen good, not very memorable fight, it's not going to
Speaker 3: prove a lot. It's just going to be like, oh,
Speaker 3: Arnold Allen is still he's still dude. If he could
Speaker 3: ever find a way to fight more than once a year,
Speaker 3: people might care about him. If he Dan hookers him,
Speaker 3: you know, like people forget about the Dan Hooker fight
Speaker 3: because it feels like it happened ten years ago. But
Speaker 3: if he Dan Hookers, John Silva, should Diego Loopus be
Speaker 3: John Silvie's fighting for a title. I'm not saying the
Speaker 3: same thing is gonna happen for Ronald Allen, but I
Speaker 3: am saying that if he beats him and somehow didn't
Speaker 3: doesn't break both his hands in taran Achilles and can
Speaker 3: fight again this year, that fight's probably against like a
Speaker 3: Ron Murphy for a title eliminator or Diego Lopez. If
Speaker 3: he loses to Volk, it's probably a fight of that magnitude,
Speaker 3: so it's a really important fight for him.
Speaker 2: Franklin Saturday also not for nothing. But they're clearly also
Speaker 2: giving some opportunities here. I mean, the Brazilians always make
Speaker 2: themselves available for high level fights because they're very, very good.
Speaker 2: But also of note, like the UFC is still making
Speaker 2: sure that they're nurturing that market, putting Silvia in a
Speaker 2: fight that maybe he hasn't necessarily earned, although I do
Speaker 2: like the pairing Italia Silva getting a huge opportunity as well.
Speaker 2: Just some fun opportunities there along the way. All right,
Speaker 2: time for a prediction. Silva and Alan, what do you think?
Speaker 3: My head says John Silva, My heart kind of says right, Allen. Frankly,
Speaker 3: despite Jean Silva being my boy, activity matters a lot
Speaker 3: on the sport in general, John Silva. My hope for
Speaker 3: John Silva is he is coming off that Diego Lopez
Speaker 3: fight that he lost, and I think people, because of
Speaker 3: how it unfolded, I think people maybe don't remember that
Speaker 3: fight as well as it I do. He lost the
Speaker 3: first round dominantly, he was tuning Diego up in the
Speaker 3: second round, and then he did the Jean Silva thing
Speaker 3: where he got way too excited about anything happening, ran
Speaker 3: in and got killed. I'm hopeful that that will teach
Speaker 3: him a lesson like Justin Gatge had to learn so
Speaker 3: long ago, like maybe I can't be a total psycho
Speaker 3: every second of every fight, and he'll come in as
Speaker 3: a more like focused fighter. And if that happens, I
Speaker 3: think that even as good as Arnold Allen can be
Speaker 3: in his best day, that's still he's probably still gonna
Speaker 3: lose a decision. And if Arnold Allen is rusty at
Speaker 3: all because of the long wayoff, I think he's in
Speaker 3: a lot of trouble. So I'm gonna go Jean Silva
Speaker 3: by decision, but I would love to see Arnold Allen
Speaker 3: kind of come back with a vengeance here.
Speaker 2: Luke, what are the odds on this particular contest from
Speaker 2: our friends of DraftKings.
Speaker 4: I got Arnold Allen earlier in the week at plus
Speaker 4: two forty and John Silva was minus three twenty five.
Speaker 4: Right now, Arnold Allen is plus two to ten, John
Speaker 4: Silva minus two fifty eight.
Speaker 2: A little bit of money coming in on Arnold Allen.
Speaker 2: I gotta say, I love I'm torn right because the
Speaker 2: reality is in mma and this change is obviously the
Speaker 2: higher you go. But as a general rule, offense is
Speaker 2: more important than defense. But of course it is the
Speaker 2: higher up you get. You know, you can't really play
Speaker 2: with that, but you know, if you had to weigh
Speaker 2: which one is more important for winning fights? And I'm made,
Speaker 2: the answer is obviously offense. But at the same time
Speaker 2: Silva is fucking reckless, you know what I mean, And
Speaker 2: he does dumb shit and he takes dumb ass chances.
Speaker 2: The question is like what that means against Like, like,
Speaker 2: is the Diego Lopez fight with the worst one for him?
Speaker 2: Because Lopez will also play a little bit reckless, but
Speaker 2: it's just better anyway, And so he made him pay.
Speaker 2: Or is it someone who is very defensively sound who
Speaker 2: can just neutralize all of that and wait for his
Speaker 2: opportunity in a three round fight. I'm gonna go jay
Speaker 2: on Silva, but I really do hope Arnold Allen wins
Speaker 2: because I've been waiting for him to turn a corner
Speaker 2: to the next level, and this would be a great
Speaker 2: opportunity for him. I just don't know if you will.
Speaker 3: You know, dude, it is entirely possible that he in fact,
Speaker 3: Dan Hooker's him, that John Silva just runs it recklessly
Speaker 3: and he just throws the right hand, and that's the ballgame.
Speaker 3: Like that's very much in play, And would honestly be
Speaker 3: kind of sick because I think if Johan Silva lost
Speaker 3: two in a row, he would have to be an adult,
Speaker 3: Like you'd have to go back his camp and be like,
Speaker 3: hey man, we want to control your psychosis and just
Speaker 3: spurts like you just it's not you don't build the
Speaker 3: plane out of being crazy you. That's part of the
Speaker 3: whole constituent game that we're going to build around you.
Speaker 2: We shall see. All I know is it's a I'm
Speaker 2: a little surprised that the heavyweight fight isn't opening the card,
Speaker 2: but doesn't really matter. It's a great fight to open
Speaker 2: the card just the same, right.
Speaker 3: I think. I think the idea is there's just no
Speaker 3: way this fight is boring because John Silva is like
Speaker 3: allergic to being in boring fights. And while it's unlikely
Speaker 3: Derek Lewis and waldokutz A Coasta could be boring because
Speaker 3: that's sort of always an option with heavyweight fights. Sometimes
Speaker 3: they can get big and heavyweight and just not do
Speaker 3: a lot.
Speaker 2: Let's go to Long Island, Luke. Here, it turns out
Speaker 2: we're only waiting for Justin gat you to weigh in.
Speaker 2: Is that right? Yeah?
Speaker 4: And I mean as time he's got fifteen minutes, but
Speaker 4: as time swindling down and getting a little nervous here is.
Speaker 2: He usually late? When I say late, I mean like
Speaker 2: later in the window.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know.
Speaker 3: He's never missed weight, so but at least because but
Speaker 3: I was going to say, like, you know, if you
Speaker 3: don't have staff and just have an in coron air,
Speaker 3: maybe your weight fluctuates. I don't know that would be
Speaker 3: categorical disaster. Frankly, so knock on wood.
Speaker 2: All right, well, no, okay, so hold on, let's talk
Speaker 2: about this. If he misses weight, then the bout would
Speaker 2: I'm assuming, like by a couple of pounds, not by
Speaker 2: some astronomical amount. If he were to misweight, again we
Speaker 2: were talking in hypotheticals, the interim title would still be
Speaker 2: on the line for Patty Correct. It just wouldn't be
Speaker 2: on the line for Justin Correct, which would still fucking
Speaker 2: suck because if Justin wins Themare, especially via knockout, and
Speaker 2: you're like, okay, well, you could have taken that to
Speaker 2: a lot of places. I don't I'm not anticipating that.
Speaker 4: I don't think it's actually the worst case scenario as
Speaker 4: long as because this is just a number one contender
Speaker 4: fight essentially for who fights Ilia? So who cares if
Speaker 4: the interim title isn't there. If wins, I gotta tell
Speaker 4: you Bill gets Ilia next. Arguably, no, I gotta tell
Speaker 4: you you know who.
Speaker 3: This is just terrific news for If Justin Geichie does
Speaker 3: miss waight armand Serukian just moved to the head of
Speaker 3: the line, baby. If if Gechie misses wait and beats.
Speaker 3: Patty Zukin might just jump the line.
Speaker 2: Arm is gonna be like like that. You know that
Speaker 2: that jiff from Shannon Sharp.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's going to be posting today if that happens.
Speaker 2: Before we talk about the prelims here very quickly, let's
Speaker 2: do some DK pick six here on the UFC side
Speaker 2: of things. We talked about it a little bit earlier
Speaker 2: on the NFL side, but we can do it for
Speaker 2: the UFC side. It's all available right now, and by
Speaker 2: the way, presented by DraftKings, the crown is yours. Let's
Speaker 2: do a little bit of this here. So on the
Speaker 2: MMA side, Jed, we got all these different fighters and
Speaker 2: different permutations for them. I don't want to get to
Speaker 2: the prelimp portions now, but okay, for example, for example
Speaker 2: Derek Lewis, you can get him at point five knockouts,
Speaker 2: you can take more or less. But the more interesting
Speaker 2: one to me are the striking totals. So if you
Speaker 2: look around, they've got to tell your Silva sixty three
Speaker 2: point five. I would take the over on that. I
Speaker 2: think one way or the other that one's going to
Speaker 2: be active. I'll put it that way. Sean O'Malley seventy
Speaker 2: nine point five. That seems high. Songa Dong has a
Speaker 2: pretty good chin. The one that's interesting to me is
Speaker 2: sixty one and a half for Patty Pimblet. What do
Speaker 2: you think over or under?
Speaker 3: I want to say under, but five round fights are
Speaker 3: just tough, especially like six on the ground like that
Speaker 3: and lean under on that, but I have not a
Speaker 3: lot of confidence in that pick.
Speaker 2: So for Patty Pemblet, if you go to UFC stats
Speaker 2: Fight Metric, he averages per minute strikes landed five point
Speaker 2: one point nine, so he would have to be let's see,
Speaker 2: that would be a little bit over twenty five round
Speaker 2: so we're talking about three rounds that would cover if
Speaker 2: he does his average. That's kind of the question here
Speaker 2: is like what you think Justin is going to take
Speaker 2: away from him? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe I might. Honestly, over might be right. It
Speaker 3: it's it also then that's so volatile because again it's
Speaker 3: back to our analysis. I think if Patty gets two takedowns,
Speaker 3: fight's probably over. Like he's probably going to beat the
Speaker 3: shit out of Justice on the ground.
Speaker 2: I'm so glad you mentioned that. So for Patty on
Speaker 2: the takedowns more or less ready they got you right,
Speaker 2: they got you right in the middle two and a half,
Speaker 2: two and a half.
Speaker 3: Yeah, uh to me, that's one Like, if you think
Speaker 3: Patty's winning, and take the over, if you think he's taking,
Speaker 3: if you think he's losing, take the under. And maybe
Speaker 3: he gets two and he just finishes them immediately, and
Speaker 3: so you still lose that way.
Speaker 2: But I feel like, obviously there's probably not as much
Speaker 2: to make on it, given the state of the odds,
Speaker 2: but gaechee at point five takedowns, I'm taking the under
Speaker 2: on that.
Speaker 3: He's gonna go smash the under on that smash the
Speaker 3: under right, dude, Like, because go back to the Michael
Speaker 3: Chandler fight. Patty didn't take Michael Chandler down. Michael Chandler
Speaker 3: shot a takedown and Patty scrambled. If Justin shoots a takedown,
Speaker 3: which he doesn't do anyway, that he started to mix
Speaker 3: in it would be disastrously stupid to try and take
Speaker 3: Patty down.
Speaker 2: Mashave rematch just for you know, just to play levels.
Speaker 3: But yeah, and that's Phizzy, that's fine. Like Patty's best
Speaker 3: takedowns are in transition in scrambling anyway, So like it
Speaker 3: would be incredibly dumb for him to shoot a take
Speaker 3: down on Patty unless it is purely the last ten
Speaker 3: seconds of a round or something like, it would just
Speaker 3: be so stupid.
Speaker 2: Fight time here we go, ready, fight time for Patty.
Speaker 2: Twelve and a half minutes, so less than three rounds.
Speaker 2: I take the over, take the over.
Speaker 3: I think that I think that line is good though,
Speaker 3: because I can totally see it being under. But I'll
Speaker 3: take the over.
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about the prelimbs here in just a second.
Speaker 2: But they've got that dude a table. A table got
Speaker 2: a very quickly for four and a half minutes. On
Speaker 2: the over under, I don't know a great deal about
Speaker 2: his opponent. I'll be honest, I know a little bit.
Speaker 2: I'm taking the under. I'm taking the under on that one.
Speaker 2: I don't think that one's gonna go four minutes.
Speaker 3: A death touch he does. I love a table Paul
Speaker 3: I have been like kind of durable in his career.
Speaker 3: But if it goes over, it's just over. Like he's
Speaker 3: not making it to the third round.
Speaker 2: Yeah, PELAIAV has beaten or excuse me, lost to I
Speaker 2: should say forgive me. Christian Leroy Duncan which is actually
Speaker 2: turning out to be a pretty good fighter. And then
Speaker 2: he beat Nkline pretty easily, so maybe he can go more.
Speaker 2: I suppose. I guess we'll have to see last for
Speaker 2: me on this one, if I can let me do. Oh,
Speaker 2: this is interesting one. Control time control time. So now again,
Speaker 2: control time is not just on top. People don't misunderstand this.
Speaker 2: Control time is also pressing someone into the fence. Okay,
Speaker 2: three and a half minutes for Patty.
Speaker 3: I'll go over, but I don't I'll go over, and
Speaker 3: I'll because of the fence stuff. But like if he
Speaker 3: gets on top of Justin, I think the clock is
Speaker 3: way less than three minutes before he finds a finish.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then last but not least, they've got one
Speaker 2: more time. Umar number got made off nine and a
Speaker 2: half minutes of control. I'm taking the over.
Speaker 3: Yeah. The only way that doesn't hit is if Umar
Speaker 3: taps him early.
Speaker 2: Right, right? Is it short of that?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe fat Figi's got some juice to him.
Speaker 2: Yeah. True, I'm still I'm still taking the I'm still
Speaker 2: taking it, all right. And as I was always presented
Speaker 2: by DraftKings, the crown is yours. Let's talk quickly if
Speaker 2: we can about these prelims, which again this car to me.
Speaker 2: People can beelly ache about the the whether or not
Speaker 2: Armine should be in here, whether there should be an
Speaker 2: interim title, all that stuff. But let's talk about some
Speaker 2: of these prelims. I gotta tell you one of the
Speaker 2: ones people are sleeping on Michael Johnson taking on Alexander Hernandez.
Speaker 2: No one's talking about that one. That one should be
Speaker 2: ridiculous for as long.
Speaker 4: As it real quick. Justin gage, he made weight one
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty five pounds. Look, he looks great, he
Speaker 4: looks fu very good.
Speaker 3: He was just making people wait for funies for funies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So let's talk about a table Gatier
Speaker 2: taken on Andre Pulaev Gotier. Well, let's see this Brian
Speaker 2: Campbell out there doing hard hitting journalism. Let's let's look
Speaker 2: at this clip I heard.
Speaker 3: Man, your diet consists of a lot of bugs? Is
Speaker 3: this a true fact? Which ones taste the best? I
Speaker 3: gotta know this.
Speaker 10: It's like my dad doesn't a lot of bugs, but
Speaker 10: I do eight bugs, you know, because yeah I do. Yeah,
Speaker 10: so it is good to me, and it's like you
Speaker 10: have to try it before like, you know, people can judge,
Speaker 10: but yeah, they netly try it.
Speaker 3: Okay, but I'm afraid of spiders. I could never imagine
Speaker 3: putting one inside.
Speaker 10: Oh, like their white spice and everything.
Speaker 4: It would be good.
Speaker 3: Okay, good, truly. Brian Campbell's calling to talk about eating bugs.
Speaker 2: That's so great. Nevertheless, this guy loves cats. He has
Speaker 2: built like fucking prime Evander Holyfield. I love this guy
Speaker 2: middleweight and I you know, maybe Pulley apple A is
Speaker 2: a decent test, but I'm all aboard the go to
Speaker 2: a hype train. I'll just say that.
Speaker 3: I loved him coming off Contender series. It's like he's
Speaker 3: twenty three and a murderer. Like if he gets if
Speaker 3: he even just kind of gets better. Ever, like consistently,
Speaker 3: he's just gonna be incredible. Uh, he rocks. Good for
Speaker 3: him eating bugs. I've eaten some bugs.
Speaker 2: You know, it's Columbia. I'm not I'm not not for me.
Speaker 3: Come on, you didn't like like a I've had cricket.
Speaker 3: Cricket's fine. The bugs don't taste like shit. They're just crunchy. Mostly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not. I'd rather just star nice. Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 2: Niki de Krilov, who was kind of fall off a
Speaker 2: little bit taking on I would argue some somewhat resurgent
Speaker 2: Bodestas Bukowskis. I would not have said this fight would
Speaker 2: be a competitive three years ago for Bukowskis, but I
Speaker 2: actually think it's very competitive for him now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bucock is gonna win because Nikita Krillov is super
Speaker 3: washed and he's on like a five fight win streak.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Alex Perez uh missed wait taking on maybe one
Speaker 2: of the most underrated fighters on this roster, Charles Energy Johnson.
Speaker 2: Love this fight for Johnson, and I think he wins
Speaker 2: US one walking Away very much.
Speaker 3: Agree Odds Long Island Luke. I think are actually still
Speaker 3: fairly close this one, which is interesting given the run
Speaker 3: Alex Prez has been on. He's won like one of
Speaker 3: his last seven fights or something.
Speaker 4: Plus way forty five Perez minus one seventy five inner.
Speaker 3: G Yeah, I would really think Johnson should be a
Speaker 3: bigger favorite than that in general, but doesn't take that
Speaker 3: many takedowns malex Prez, which could happen. But yeah, I
Speaker 3: think Charles John's gonna win this one.
Speaker 2: Michael Johnson's thirty nine, however, three wins in a row
Speaker 2: if you can believe it, the last of those over
Speaker 2: Daniel zel Huber, which is a pretty nice one taking
Speaker 2: on Alexander Hernandez, who himself, by the way, thirty three
Speaker 2: years of age. Four wins in a row. It's the
Speaker 2: longest UFC win streak he's had, and some decent names
Speaker 2: certainly closer to the top of that one, Digo Faherta
Speaker 2: being the last of those. Love this fight maybe the
Speaker 2: most interesting fight that's not getting a lot of attention
Speaker 2: as folks pay attention to the card.
Speaker 3: Yeah. When we when Long Island and I did no
Speaker 3: bets barred this week, I was stunned to realize that
Speaker 3: this is not just like a throwaway light waight fight.
Speaker 3: It kind of matters like they got two guys on
Speaker 3: good winning streak, which is insane to think of that
Speaker 3: for basically either of them, and feels like good matchmaking.
Speaker 3: So I can think, I think alex is gonna win,
Speaker 3: but I don't know. I thought daniezelle Heuber would kill
Speaker 3: Michael Johnson shows what I know.
Speaker 4: I just want to say a lot of money has
Speaker 4: obviously come in on Michael Johnson because I don't remember
Speaker 4: what he was earlier in the week. But I know
Speaker 4: Alexander Hernandez was like minus one sixty five is he's
Speaker 4: minus one twenty now Michael Johnson plus one hundred.
Speaker 2: So interesting. Okay, that is our preview of the card.
Speaker 2: And with that we now moved to well, bitch, I'll
Speaker 2: bring Long Yeah skits some bits here. I'll bring in
Speaker 2: Long Island Luke here, because what I said was when
Speaker 2: BC left the show, what I said was, you know, listen, Long,
Speaker 2: Ale's got a lot of ideas. We're just going to
Speaker 2: turn him loose here. So tell us about your ideas
Speaker 2: here Long as well.
Speaker 4: Naturally, naturally I ripped off one of BC's ideas. This
Speaker 4: will be similar to something we've done Orangetois, which is
Speaker 4: BC's thing where you rank three random things. This will
Speaker 4: just be all about's card, though we're gonna call it
Speaker 4: rank that card. That card.
Speaker 3: It sucks creative.
Speaker 4: I don't know who that was, but what a creative name, guys.
Speaker 4: So first thing ranked that card. Who will be the
Speaker 4: Brazilian with the best chance to win a UFC title
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty six, John Silva, Davison Figaredo or Natalias?
Speaker 4: This is natal who I know Who's third come first, second.
Speaker 2: Third, Luke Oh Silva one, Natalia Silva. Excuse me, Natalia
Speaker 2: Silva one. I'll say jay On two because I think
Speaker 2: Figaredo is.
Speaker 3: Figi is very obviously.
Speaker 4: Three is just the third Brazilian.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Jean Silva over Natalia Silva because if
Speaker 3: he beats Nold Allen, they might throw him in there.
Speaker 3: And I think I kind of think folks are gonna
Speaker 3: lose to Diego Lopez this time around. But like, even
Speaker 3: if he's not, he's just he's old, and if Diego
Speaker 3: fights him again, maybe Jean beats it. Mainly, the idea is,
Speaker 3: I don't know if you know this, Luke. The current
Speaker 3: women's flyweight champion is a woman named Valentino Shipchenko. She
Speaker 3: ever lose, so I'm just not gonna assume that Tali
Speaker 3: Silva's gonna do that.
Speaker 4: That's a good point too.
Speaker 2: They never lose until they do, you understand that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but she lost and then she came back and
Speaker 3: stopped losing again.
Speaker 4: It's true, all right. Second fighters undefeated in the UFC
Speaker 4: with the biggest chance of losing tomorrow, Natalia Silva or
Speaker 4: Patty pimblet.
Speaker 2: I put Gotier three?
Speaker 4: Agree?
Speaker 2: Uh, Pimblet's got to have a bigger chance at losing,
Speaker 2: so I put him one silva to Gotier three.
Speaker 3: I mean, odds wise, that's correct. I might flip it
Speaker 3: just because I think Rose has a really good chance
Speaker 3: of beating Hutolia, so I think that that is a
Speaker 3: fight that may line up very well for her. And
Speaker 3: you know, I'm picking Gai Chee. But in my in
Speaker 3: my head, I leave Patty has a much better chance
Speaker 3: of winning that fight, so I think I'd swap them.
Speaker 3: But you're probably objectively correct.
Speaker 4: Luca is going by the odds, you know, not purpose.
Speaker 2: I mean, I wasn't looking at you out on purpose,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 4: What I mean? Thirty eight plus year olds who will
Speaker 4: have more UFC fights after UFC three twenty four Davison FIGUREDO,
Speaker 4: Derek Lewis, Michael Johnson, Meaning are you.
Speaker 2: Asking how many fights they would have from after this day? Correct?
Speaker 4: Not like how many fights they have in their career
Speaker 4: just after Saturday? Who continues fighting the most after that?
Speaker 2: I'll say Lewis one. He's the oldest by the way
Speaker 2: I know, but it's heavyweight, so he's really not.
Speaker 3: That's a good argument.
Speaker 2: That's a tough one. After these two. I'm gonna say
Speaker 2: Johnson too, FIGUREDO three. I actually feel like Figarreedo's gonna
Speaker 2: like try and linger a little bit, dude.
Speaker 3: At media day, Figure was like, I'm not close to retiring. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so I kind of I think I agree?
Speaker 4: All right? Fair enough? Uh? For fighters whose stock will
Speaker 4: drop the most with a loss on Saturday, Josh Hokit,
Speaker 4: Sean O'Malley or Umar Nomaga Medov, who's the most to
Speaker 4: lose with a loss.
Speaker 2: Well, it's definitely not hok It.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's number three for sure.
Speaker 2: I feel like a norma Ga Madov losing in the
Speaker 2: UFC would be a big fucking deal.
Speaker 4: And he already has lost to Morob.
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean yeah, and it was a very competitive,
Speaker 2: really good fight, but him losing like outside of a
Speaker 2: title thing would be I mean, that's a top I
Speaker 2: mean no, it has to be madoff. Sean Omalley is
Speaker 2: coming off to fucking loss. Here's the thing though, here's
Speaker 2: the thing we're talking about. Sean O'Malley, Like, oh, here's
Speaker 2: a chance at resurgence. So if he loses, is his
Speaker 2: stock going to tank? Because we all thought he had
Speaker 2: a new lease on life and then that now the
Speaker 2: bottom gets dropped out on that. That's a question. So
Speaker 2: I might go, I might go, No, I'm gonna stay.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go number one. O'Malley two, hook a three.
Speaker 3: Ye, I'm it's nurmi one. Because one people are already
Speaker 3: ready to bury him, like he he lost to Morob
Speaker 3: and then the win over Mario Batista was not like thrilling.
Speaker 3: And if he loses, I think he would be the
Speaker 3: biggest favorite loss in the history of the UFC, because
Speaker 3: he's like minus eighteen hundred at places or whatever right now.
Speaker 3: So I think that would be pretty devastating.
Speaker 4: True, all right, fair enough? Up next, underdog with the
Speaker 4: best chance of winning Rose Noamber Unis, Derek Lewis or
Speaker 4: Arnold Allen.
Speaker 3: I think Arnold Allen probably has the best chance both
Speaker 3: odds wise and just like realistically. I'll go, I'll go
Speaker 3: Arnold Rose, Derek.
Speaker 4: Lt.
Speaker 2: Underdog with the best chance of winning. I'll go I think, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll go Derek one. No, I'll go, I'll go in
Speaker 2: order Rose, Derek Arnold.
Speaker 4: Okay, so opposite jed.
Speaker 1: Up.
Speaker 4: Next former champion with the best chance to regain a
Speaker 4: title Davidson Figuredo Rose down the Unis or Sean O'Malley.
Speaker 2: One, yeah, in in reverse order. O'Malley, I'm a unice figure.
Speaker 4: You guys are so confident. He's still gotta beat Yan
Speaker 4: or whoever's the champion at that time. You know, like.
Speaker 2: Has to beat one dude, bro, But like Figaredo had
Speaker 2: his knee destroyed by sand.
Speaker 4: Think he were just again. He's just thrown in because
Speaker 4: he's the only other former champions. But like Rose, Bro,
Speaker 4: you don't think like all you got to do win
Speaker 4: tomorrow and then beat Val. That's not that crazy. If
Speaker 4: she wins tomorrow, I think she's not crazy.
Speaker 3: But and the beating Val part pretty tough.
Speaker 2: O'Malley. I know it's controversial, but O'Malley did beat Yan
Speaker 2: yeah three round five, twenty two, but still all right?
Speaker 4: All right, up next, we got most entertaining fighter on
Speaker 4: the car, John Silva, justin Geechee or Derek Lewis.
Speaker 3: What the fuck are we doing here? Man?
Speaker 4: I want to be in the cage you get you
Speaker 4: can factor it all in together.
Speaker 3: Jeed just engaged most exciting fighters ever fucking lived.
Speaker 4: All right, well, who's your number two?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: John Silva? But if you want to put Derek Luis.
Speaker 3: That's fine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the thing is Silva is very, very fun, but
Speaker 2: he's a little annoying too.
Speaker 3: Oh he's super annoying.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go gae Chie one Abby, and then
Speaker 2: I'll go Lewis too and Silva three.
Speaker 4: All right, all right, up next, we got most likely
Speaker 4: to avoid a third straight loss. Well, Cameron Smotherman, I mean,
Speaker 4: I guess he's he's the most likely to avoid a
Speaker 4: third trip did avoid that? Nikita Krilov or Alex Perez.
Speaker 4: I guess we'll just.
Speaker 2: Carez would be one, Krilov two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with him. I Carlos look so bad lately.
Speaker 4: See, I'm gonna go opposite on that. I feel like
Speaker 4: Actually no, I do like Alex present. I don't take
Speaker 4: that naming duo with the best chance of both fighters winning.
Speaker 4: So both both Johnson's gonna win, Michael Johnson and Charles Johnson,
Speaker 4: Alex Perez and Alex Hernandez or John Silva and Natalia Silva.
Speaker 3: The Silvas have to be number one.
Speaker 2: I'm the Johnson's who was number one. Yeah, Well, I
Speaker 2: think Charles Johnson's gonna win outright, and I think Mike's
Speaker 2: got a pretty good Michael Johnson's got a pretty good chance.
Speaker 3: It's not crazy. I'm gonna go Silva's. I mean they
Speaker 3: are both favored to win outright, and you know Johnson's two,
Speaker 3: the Alex's are certainly third, alright.
Speaker 4: Fair enough and then last, but not least, most likely
Speaker 4: to win by finish Medesta spukowskis Tibo Gautier or Johnson.
Speaker 2: Dude, they might put handcuffs on Gotier after he sends
Speaker 2: that motherfucker's head into orbit. I mean, what are we talking.
Speaker 3: About, number one?
Speaker 4: Because probably because I bet the under one and a half,
Speaker 4: I bet caught by ko all this ship. I have
Speaker 4: such a feeling that fight's going to go the distance
Speaker 4: and he's gonna like lose and we're all going to
Speaker 4: be so I'm getting like Malcolm well Maker.
Speaker 2: I'll be honest, I'm a little bit on Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: a fair point you bring up. I'm a little bit
Speaker 2: on autopilot in terms of like my support for him. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you could be right, you could be.
Speaker 3: Right fine to be an autopilot there.
Speaker 4: But who you guys got two and three here? John silver.
Speaker 3: Bukowskis, Arnold's never been stopped, and uh nik K has
Speaker 3: been stopped a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Krilov is a dunk, so bis got to be
Speaker 2: two silver, three.
Speaker 4: All right, all right, Well that does it for that guys.
Speaker 4: That was rank that card.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 4: We could do that for every card if we want,
Speaker 4: you know, if we got ship to do. But next
Speaker 4: up is going to be a segment that we've kind
Speaker 4: of been workshopping. There's a few different ideas for it.
Speaker 4: And one of the ideas our producer Matt Snyder came
Speaker 4: up with, which was essentially putting two fighters names or
Speaker 4: figures in combat sports into like chat GBT or an
Speaker 4: AI generator, and then it's spit out a dialogue between
Speaker 4: these two people. So we haven't told Luke or Jed
Speaker 4: who these two people are. They're going to read line
Speaker 4: for line for these people and then try and figure
Speaker 4: out who they're speaking on behalf of. So this is
Speaker 4: called m m AI.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is a weird one. So how do I
Speaker 2: do this?
Speaker 4: I just read a A and I just start reading
Speaker 4: it and say.
Speaker 2: Here we go, Jed, ready, ready, here we go.
Speaker 3: Let's get trying stuff.
Speaker 2: We're trying stuff here. I just wanted to clear the air.
Speaker 2: I know I've made some declaratives and the timing of
Speaker 2: everything may appear convenient. Okay, that wasn't about fear or avoidance.
Speaker 2: It was about timing. And since then, I've been doing
Speaker 2: a lot of reflecting, and I recognize that I may
Speaker 2: have had things more complicated than they needed to be.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 2: I want to be clear. I'm not done. I'm just selective.
Speaker 3: So what do you want?
Speaker 2: You know what I want?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I got to drag this out as
Speaker 3: long as I can.
Speaker 2: Right, I'll take whatever you give me except for that
Speaker 2: one guy. I won't take.
Speaker 4: What the fuck is And I can give you guys hints.
Speaker 2: Yeah, am I iliot ta Poria?
Speaker 4: You are not Iliopia? Uh?
Speaker 3: Is Luke? John Jones? Yes?
Speaker 4: Lt was John Jones and Jed Do you know who
Speaker 4: you were?
Speaker 3: I'm assuming Dana White.
Speaker 4: Correct Jed. I'm impressed.
Speaker 3: All right, I'll be totally honest. I was completely lost
Speaker 3: until the I'll take whatever you give me, except that
Speaker 3: one guy. I was like, that sounds a lot like
Speaker 3: John Jones to me.
Speaker 2: Right, you know what Eliott was playing like, I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna fight this guy. I'm not gonna fight that guy.
Speaker 2: That's why I thought, all right, here we go. This
Speaker 2: is number two. All right, Well that was fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, great time, appreciate you coming on it flew by.
Speaker 3: Hey can I tell you something something important?
Speaker 2: Sure? Yeah, of course, keep this between us. Okay, you
Speaker 2: have my word.
Speaker 3: Do you know that m M A is high level
Speaker 3: problem solving with dire physical consequences?
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're obviously Joe Rogan, right, yes, okay, and
Speaker 2: I am.
Speaker 3: I have no idea who you are?
Speaker 4: Who?
Speaker 3: The Rogan thing was a great bit.
Speaker 4: Anybody you are you Luke, It's what said to you
Speaker 4: after your podcast together.
Speaker 2: The problem with mine in this case was it's so
Speaker 2: generic that it's really hard to Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was tough.
Speaker 3: But but the dude, the chat has been begging for
Speaker 3: you to give what happened, and now they know. Now
Speaker 3: they know what happened after the Rogan piety.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like that. It wasn't like that. All right,
Speaker 2: here we go. Number three? Uh oh wow, long time,
Speaker 2: huh yeah, good to see you. Kind of crazy how
Speaker 2: things circle back in this sport, They sure do. It's
Speaker 2: been how long since we fought?
Speaker 3: Sixteen hundred and fifty eight days? Awkward silence, keep going, Oh,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I never forgot what you said to me.
Speaker 2: I think about it a lot. Is it? Uh? Is
Speaker 2: it uh? Who had a fight? Oh? Is it?
Speaker 4: My hint to you is it's not someone who's currently
Speaker 4: scheduled for a rematch. I feel like it kind of
Speaker 4: implies that in the dialogue, like they're they're reminiscing like
Speaker 4: they're going to fight again, but they're just reminiscing on
Speaker 4: the first time they thought.
Speaker 2: Is it Nunez and Chivchenko or something?
Speaker 4: No, Jad, you have any guesses.
Speaker 2: Who had a big break between their fights.
Speaker 4: Again, it's not a break between fights. It's just they're
Speaker 4: reminiscing on the one time they fought, which just happens.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had nothing on this.
Speaker 2: This is too generic.
Speaker 4: It's tough. It's a Greg Hardy and Tai to Avasa.
Speaker 4: Reflecting on their intimate words exchanged.
Speaker 3: We were definitely gonna get that.
Speaker 2: They should have had something about them having sex, because
Speaker 2: that would have been the giveaway.
Speaker 4: All right, Well, I mean LT the next one is
Speaker 4: a solo read for you. So my hint for you
Speaker 4: before you read it is you're a combat sports figure
Speaker 4: endorsing a product. So those are going to be the
Speaker 4: two guesses. Guess the product, and guess who you are.
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go. This podcast is brought to you
Speaker 2: by Focus, not the app, the feeling. I've been experimenting
Speaker 2: with a more direct approach to productivity, less meditation, more momentum.
Speaker 2: You don't need instructions, you just need confidence and curiosity.
Speaker 2: Is it legal? I'm not really sure anymore? Is it natural?
Speaker 2: Well emotionally yes? Anyway, if you're tired of slow mornings
Speaker 2: and moral hesitations, maybe wellness isn't about less, Maybe it's
Speaker 2: about more. Am I Dana White? No, Jed, am I Chail?
Speaker 3: Is this Sean o'malen his more well? Whatever the hell
Speaker 3: thing he's been pumping out.
Speaker 4: It was Craig Jones endorsing cocaine.
Speaker 3: Oh, very wellness focused.
Speaker 2: Right, So now that we know that this product, this
Speaker 2: podcast is brought to you by Focus, not the app
Speaker 2: the feeling. I've been experimenting with a more direct approach
Speaker 2: to productivity, less meditation, more momentum. You don't need instructions,
Speaker 2: you just need confidence and curiosity. Is it legal? I'm
Speaker 2: not really sure anymore. Is it natural emotionally yes? That's hilarious. Okay,
Speaker 2: very good.
Speaker 4: All right, Wait, and we got to give you a
Speaker 4: hint on the last one too, because it's tough. It's
Speaker 4: a media member and someone close to them.
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go, jed you ready, I've been watching? Yeah,
Speaker 2: what do you think? They were? Fine? Like technically fine,
Speaker 2: very professional? But is a certain warmth missing?
Speaker 3: They seem happy?
Speaker 2: Give a time.
Speaker 3: I have a theory.
Speaker 2: Okay, what is it?
Speaker 3: I I'm not entirely sure who the people discussing are,
Speaker 3: but I feel like maybe it's uh, I'm trying to
Speaker 3: think who this might be. Is this is this discussing
Speaker 3: the the the MK changes without Brian Campbell?
Speaker 4: You're you're yes, it's discussing m K two point zero.
Speaker 3: Then who would the people be though?
Speaker 2: The donks?
Speaker 3: No, dude, the donks wouldn't use a word like professional.
Speaker 3: Come on, what the fuck are you talking about? There's
Speaker 3: a certain warmth missing. Do you think that sentence has
Speaker 3: ever been put in your chat?
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't know. I mean, is it.
Speaker 3: Brian Campbell talking to you Long Island Luke about what's
Speaker 3: what's his absence?
Speaker 4: You're very close, You're fifty percent there, and it's it's
Speaker 4: probably just too hard, but you are Brian Campbell talking
Speaker 4: to his wife about the.
Speaker 2: New m K.
Speaker 3: I was really close.
Speaker 2: Then I like this segment it needs a little work.
Speaker 3: Yeah, needs a little work.
Speaker 4: I didn't I didn't even know if it was gonna go.
Speaker 4: It's god, you know, Jed guess the first one. I
Speaker 4: was like, oh, all right, this is going great.
Speaker 3: But I think there's I think there's some juice to
Speaker 3: this segment. It but it you know, maybe some more
Speaker 3: AI prompt work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the prompting needs a little help, but
Speaker 2: not not not bad, not bad for the Verson one,
Speaker 2: well done, Long Island. I appreciate these two segments. Thank
Speaker 2: you very much.
Speaker 4: Arnold was all mad. You gotta give Snyder credit for
Speaker 4: that one.
Speaker 2: Oh, fair enough. Yeah, we'll give it to Snyder verse. Uh, Jed,
Speaker 2: thank you so much for joining me. Watch tell folks
Speaker 2: what you've got going on for coverage as it pertains
Speaker 2: to UFC three twenty four.
Speaker 3: We've got a preview show coming up in a couple
Speaker 3: hours at inmayfind dot com YouTube. Most of you donks
Speaker 3: in the chat are already over there or we'll be
Speaker 3: over there, but if you're not, come join us.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: Traditional coverage Josey Young's Boots on the Ground in Vegas
Speaker 3: right now, you know, all that same stuff, and a
Speaker 3: watch party tomorrow night at the MMA Fighting YouTube as well.
Speaker 3: So hop on in. We're going early, We're going We're
Speaker 3: kicking things off right at the start of the middle
Speaker 3: prelim section. Should be fun, mess around, watch some fistfights.
Speaker 2: All right, very good for me. A couple of things.
Speaker 2: I want to sort of let everyone know I'm going
Speaker 2: to be watching and do a full main card watch
Speaker 2: along on my YouTube channel, plus a post fight show,
Speaker 2: and then right after this MK you can join me
Speaker 2: if you are on my substack and I'm going to
Speaker 2: do a Patty the Battie tape study, a live tape study,
Speaker 2: you can join me right after this show for that.
Speaker 2: That should be a lot of fun. And then catch
Speaker 2: me tomorrow on my YouTube channel, YouTube dot com, slash
Speaker 2: loop tom us for a full main card watch along
Speaker 2: and then a post fight show. Long Alan, what do
Speaker 2: you have going on?
Speaker 4: I got Jose Young's versus GAF Pierre Aaron in fifteen
Speaker 4: minutes over on main carmin at YouTube prop Quiz doing
Speaker 4: a full card watch along tomorrow even the early prelims
Speaker 4: come on, Jeed Stepy game up five pm starts I'll
Speaker 4: see you guys then and yeah, I guess that's it
Speaker 4: for me.
Speaker 2: There it is, Jed, thank you so much for joining
Speaker 2: me here. I really appreciate it. We'll get you, We'll
Speaker 2: get you in studio here very soon. We'll do some
Speaker 2: drinking with our good friends at Quervo and it'll be
Speaker 2: a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that sounds terrific. I look, if you know, eagle
Speaker 3: eyed people can see over my shoulder. I got beef
Speaker 3: with Mendenhall, so we can settle it.
Speaker 2: Very good. I look forward to seeing.
Speaker 3: It, not fistfighting. I don't think i'd feel very well
Speaker 3: in that either way.
Speaker 2: I look forward to seeing it. One more reminder on
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Speaker 2: We are out of here today, boys and girls, ladies
Speaker 2: and gentlemen, children of all ages. The fights are back. Congratulations.
Speaker 2: Let's have a good time. Watch Zuva Boxing tonight and
Speaker 2: then of course UFC through twenty four and we're going
Speaker 2: to react to all of it on Monday's MK. Thank
Speaker 2: you so much for watching it for Jed I'm Luke
Speaker 2: and Long Island Luke as well. Until next time, may
Speaker 2: all of your gains be loyal