1 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: Really readily, docs, we'll go the snow tip to tip. 2 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: This is all wine, this is our passion. I'm Luk Thomas. 3 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: I'm this this morning combat. 4 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: I can never get over that. I can never get 5 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 2: over that. Welcome on this good it's amazing on this 6 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: twenty third day of January twenty twenty six. Because ladies 7 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 2: and gentlemen, finally your long national drought, international drought, I suppose, 8 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: is over. The fights are back and we are here 9 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 2: to get you ready. Hello everyone, I'm nearly one half 10 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 2: of your hosting duo. My name is Luke Thomas. I 11 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: am joined by better call y'all himself defrocked this barred 12 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: the whole nine yards. It's Jed Michue. What's up? Jed? 13 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: How are you. 14 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 3: Bitch to be disbarred? I had to have been barred 15 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 3: in the first place, so I don't bring that nonsense here. 16 00:00:58,240 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: You've never passed the bar, You've never taken the bar. 17 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 3: No, I actually did, but I never I never got 18 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 3: I passed the bar when I got out, and then 19 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 3: I did my I forget what they call it your 20 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 3: service shit, but because I didn't want to pay the 21 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 3: dues since I wasn't going to be an attorney. I 22 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 3: never got a bar guard, so I can't be disbarred 23 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 3: because I never technically was barred, but I did pass 24 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 3: the bar, which is important. 25 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: All right, Very good, Well, welcome here. Nice to see you, Jed, 26 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 2: Jed of course from MMA fighting dot Com. Now let 27 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: me give a one bit of a disclaimer up front. 28 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: It might be like, hey, aren't you guys supposed to 29 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: be boozing in studio, Well we will be, just not 30 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: for this month. There was a bit of a miscommunication 31 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 2: such that. Don't worry. The Quervo deal has been renewed 32 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 2: for the rest of the calendar year. Everything is full 33 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: steam ahead, but it doesn't actually start until next month, 34 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: and so there was some miscommunication. We thought it would 35 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: be a get going for this month and it does not. 36 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: So apologies for the miscommunication. Sorry about that. I promise 37 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: you that is just as good as it was last year. 38 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 2: We'll be back in studio very soon, just not today. Sorry, 39 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: and Jed of course we'll have you back in studio 40 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,839 Speaker 2: once we resume returning to it, you know what I mean. 41 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 3: Honestly, it kind of worked out, what with the terrible 42 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 3: weather that's coming exactly York. So because I was like 43 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 3: planning to do this and then this sort of feels 44 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 3: a lot better to me. Frankly, what is. 45 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 2: The weather expectation in Georgia. We're in the eight to 46 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: twelve inches of snow kind of place. 47 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 3: North George is gonna get some Luke. I know that 48 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 3: there's nothing that the MK chat loves more than talking politics. 49 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: Yes, but I gotta. 50 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 3: Tell you it's been pretty tough to have a confidence 51 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 3: in the weather forecasting, what with the changes that came, 52 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 3: because it has shifted every day. At the beginning of 53 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 3: this week, I thought that I wasn't going to be 54 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 3: able to do the MMA Fighting watch party because we 55 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 3: were just going to die with snow and ice. And 56 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 3: now it's like it's probably gonna snow Saturday night a 57 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 3: little bit. There's no consistency. It's gotten progressively better every day, 58 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 3: so like it's gonna be cold and probably icy for 59 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 3: a few days, but everybody north of us seems like 60 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 3: y'all are getting screwed. 61 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think we're gonna get it too too 62 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: bad in terms of the storm itself, but I think 63 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: afterwards all next week it's gonna be in the teens 64 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: and twenties so it's just all gonna freeze and turn 65 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: into concrete. So that's not being fun, But who cares. 66 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 2: The fights are back UFC three twenty four. 67 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 4: It is. 68 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 2: It is finally upon us, the Paramount Era. So let's 69 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: get things started. If you want to follow us on social, 70 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 2: here you go. You can follow me, and there's Jet 71 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: as well. 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And remember those posters are just twenty five dollars. 80 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: They did get a little bit banged up in transit. 81 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 4: They are sold out as well, oh they sold out. 82 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 4: Blisters are sold out. 83 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: Yes, thank wow, very good. All right, so we'll get 84 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: those to you here as soon as the weather permits. 85 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: And let's bring in the third member of our family here. 86 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: It is the son of a horned off Australian. He 87 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: is my friend in yours. He is nothing if not 88 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 2: a Long Island flag bearer. It's Long Island. Look what's up, 89 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: my friend? How are you? 90 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 4: What's up? Dude? Thank you for calling me family. That 91 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 4: was very honorable here against the honorable Jed Michu. You know, 92 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:38,679 Speaker 4: the lawyer, so good, so honorable Jed. I would hire you. 93 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 4: You know, normally lawyers make me nervous and make me 94 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 4: stay comfortable, you know, yeah, that's how it goes. But boys, 95 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 4: UFC's back this weekend. I'm fucking hyped. Got Jose Young's 96 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 4: versus Gaff Pierre airing after this on prop Quoy. 97 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 3: Wonder that's gonna go. 98 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 4: Twenty dollars on the line. You know, you never know. 99 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 4: Gaff did pull up the upset in the tournament, could 100 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 4: pull it again. LT I heard you're going to be 101 00:04:58,200 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 4: on prop Quiz against Jed. 102 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: You definitely did not hear that. 103 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 4: Oh oh, I thought I heard that. 104 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: I definitely you heard the opposite of that. 105 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 3: That's any plus Work Island. 106 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 2: Listen that you gotta have non podcast brain to do that, 107 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 2: and I just don't have that kind of a thing. 108 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 2: So Jed very grey quickly before we get going. How 109 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: are things at MMA Fighting? What do you got going 110 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: on this weekend? 111 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 3: I mean, we're back, baby, like it's it. This is 112 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 3: one of the very few times this year probably i'll 113 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 3: be like genuinely super stoked about a fight card, both 114 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 3: because this fight card's awesome and we just haven't had 115 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 3: any for so long. Yeah, so, like you know, it's 116 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 3: our standard fair. We got wayns going on now or soon. 117 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 3: We'll have a preview show today and tomorrow, me and 118 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 3: the Honorable Mike kech we'll be doing our watch along 119 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 3: that we always do, so chut, you know, stop in, 120 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 3: hang out with us. A few new gimmicks, a few 121 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 3: new things happening. We're going live early to celebrate the 122 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 3: new one. Luke, do you know? I mean, I know, 123 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 3: you know, but I don't think we're celebrating enough the 124 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 3: earlier star Time. 125 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 4: Brother. 126 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 2: It trusts me when I tell you I am. I 127 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: told my wife this morning, I was like, I cannot 128 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 2: wait for this earlier freaking star Time. With that in mind, 129 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 2: you know we should do. Let's just get the show started, 130 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 2: because this is all part of it and I really 131 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: want to get into it. So let's let's kick things 132 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 2: off shallby UFC three twenty four is upon us. The 133 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: weigh ends are happening, and I think they're going to 134 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: start in about fifty to forty five minutes and we'll 135 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 2: have weigh end results for you on this lower third 136 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: when they get going. But let's talk about it now, 137 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 2: Jed UFC through twenty four. I got to tell you 138 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 2: I liked the break. I know some people had some 139 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 2: issues with the break and there was some belly aching 140 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: about it, but I feel like a little bit of 141 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,559 Speaker 2: a pause has made us feel rejuvenated for the return. 142 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 2: But there is one question that I keep getting and 143 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 2: I want to talk more about the Paramount era more generally, 144 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 2: But there's the first thing that's on my mind is 145 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: a question people keep pitching to me. So I'm going 146 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 2: to pitch it to you, namely, Okay, no more pay 147 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 2: per view. It's gonna be in Paramount Plus. As you indicated, 148 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: nine pm start time. All right, So we've already got 149 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 2: a couple of changes baked in. But what else can 150 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: UFC or Paramount do on this particular broadcast to really 151 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 2: set the tone elevated in a way Because it's the 152 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 2: first one on the Paramount era, what extra bells and 153 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 2: whistles can or even should they add. 154 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 3: That's a great question. The answer is going to be 155 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: they're not going to do anything because this is the UFC. 156 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 3: They are a finely tuned machine that is going to 157 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 3: be the machine that it is. I would love to see. 158 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 3: I mean, when they moved over to ESPN from Fox, 159 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 3: and even when they moved to Fox. You know, I 160 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 3: know you and I have been here that long, but 161 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 3: most of the people watching this probably don't know. They 162 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 3: always came with new graphics packages, which was just at 163 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: least a nice thing to feel fresh and different as 164 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 3: opposed to the same thing we've seen for the last 165 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 3: seven years. I don't remember how long the ESPN dear was, 166 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 3: so I expect something like that and that will be nice. 167 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 3: Forgive me, I do not remember the name of the 168 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 3: woman who is doing their analysis show. Do either of 169 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 3: you have it? Kate, Abdough, Vinti Bettz k Yeah. So 170 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 3: like they've brought a real professional in to sort of 171 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 3: handle that, which I think will be good. You know, 172 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 3: I can quibble with who they've got on their analyst 173 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 3: desk or whatever, but I would I say this all 174 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 3: the time, regardless of the new era. I would love 175 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 3: for them to mix things up way more as far 176 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 3: as bringing analysts on, right, they they sort of stick 177 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 3: to stick to the same like six dudes or whatever. 178 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 3: And I think it would just they have an infinite 179 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 3: well of fighters, just throw a bunch of them on there, 180 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 3: get like cycle new people in to give fresh perspectives 181 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 3: on things, because especially when you get guys like Dominic 182 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 3: Cruz and Michael Bisbing, I mean one Michael Bisbing, you know, 183 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 3: has his own YouTube channel that's getting fairly big, so 184 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 3: you're not getting new perspectives there. I would love for 185 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 3: them to do stuff like that, and just a overhaul 186 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 3: in the graphics package. Just something to make this feel 187 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 3: fresh and new and interesting would I think be great. 188 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 3: And I will probably see some of that, but I 189 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 3: doubt there's going to be a sweeping overhaul because why 190 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 3: would they. You know, they've got a successful recipe. I 191 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 3: doubt they're gonna mess with it too much. 192 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: I mostly agree. I mean, on the one hand, right, 193 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 2: here's the issue. You definitely do want to jazz this 194 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 2: up a little bit. As you indicated, Kate Abdo is 195 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: going to be there. As we've already talked about previously, 196 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: the earlier start time, the lack of the pay per view, 197 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 2: So you definitely have a few things already in motion, 198 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 2: but at the same time, you don't want to go 199 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 2: so different that the public is like, what are we 200 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 2: even looking at here? This looks like nothing I've ever 201 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 2: seen before, and not in a good way, like in 202 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 2: a unfamiliar way. Right, So I think to me, you know, 203 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 2: yesterday Jed Dana White was asked about like the amount 204 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 2: that the bonuses are going to be. They should have 205 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: an announcement for that on the broadcast, right, I kind 206 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 2: of feel like that's a no brainer. Whatever the new 207 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 2: unless the number is something that they're not happy with 208 00:09:58,160 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 2: or whatever. But if the new number is I'm going 209 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 2: to make something up seventy five K, hundred K whatever 210 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 2: it is. I know that they did the Mike boond thing, 211 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 2: but I don't know if that's really going to hold. 212 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 2: So have an announcement about what these things will be 213 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 2: going forward, as you indicated in a new graphics package. 214 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 2: But other than that, I actually don't think they should 215 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 2: tinker with it too much. Just give people enough reason 216 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 2: to be visually pleased about what they're looking at, and 217 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 2: then set it up for the future. One last thing 218 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 2: I will say, though someone asked me about this, and 219 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 2: I have asked around and I cannot get a straight answer. Namely, 220 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 2: ESPN plus Jed is and I don't know if this 221 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 2: is true universally, but it's true for UFC is in 222 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 2: seven to twenty P, but Paramount plus is ten EIGHTP. 223 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 2: Now that doesn't mean that the UFC broadcast is guaranteed 224 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: going to be true high definition at ten ADP. But 225 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 2: at the same time, that to me would also be 226 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 2: a really big upgrade to the viewers experience. And I think, 227 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: go a really long way. Why don't I hear him? 228 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 3: Dude, I didn't even get I've muted myself, Dude, I 229 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 3: didn't even consider that. It's a really good point, I 230 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 3: got it. Have you how much of you time have 231 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 3: you spent on the new Paramount like that. It's not 232 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 3: a new that their apps the same, but the UFC 233 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 3: stuff on. 234 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 4: It is new. 235 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 2: And I've watched some Champions League. 236 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 3: I have found the UFC stuff to be terrific because 237 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 3: it's all there. It is. My biggest issue with fight 238 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 3: Pass was always it was hard to find fights like 239 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 3: you like you would have to put in the right 240 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 3: like break the Da Vinci code to get to certain fights. 241 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 3: Everything is pretty clean. It could it could work right, 242 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 3: like they they they could use some new things because 243 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 3: this is new. But the app itself I have been 244 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,599 Speaker 3: incredibly pleased with in my limited experience here, and I 245 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 3: didn't even register that, like, oh yeah, we're actually getting 246 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 3: much more high definition going forward. And of course, Loop, 247 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 3: I know that this is this is a topic that 248 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 3: rings very very close to your heart. If nothing else, 249 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 3: if they do no changes, if it's the same production staff, 250 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 3: it will still be post on a viable broadcaster, like 251 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 3: we won't have the infinite issues that occur with ESPN. 252 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 3: So I'm pretty pumped about it. 253 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 2: Longnan Luke, you say you've had issues with NFL games 254 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: on Paramount Plus. 255 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, I'm not the biggest NFL fan, So I'll 256 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 4: just like play a game, you know, walk around and 257 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 4: do whatever around the house, and I come back and 258 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 4: half the time it's frozen or audio is playing it's 259 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 4: frozen like shit like that, and I'm like, well, this 260 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 4: isn't great. But personally, dude, I use vit pass to 261 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 4: watch a lot of my shit. I have an account 262 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 4: from like a previous job so I don't even use 263 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 4: ESPN Like, I haven't even used ESPN Plus really this 264 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 4: whole time. So I'm not too worried about it as 265 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 4: long as that account's still good. But uh yeah, not 266 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 4: too optimistic about Paramount Plus. 267 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 2: Gotta be again, I've watched live sports with Champions League 268 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 2: and have and again, to my experience, whatever that is 269 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 2: worth has been great, has been just fine, and has 270 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 2: looked amazing and has been pretty great. But advancing the conversation, 271 00:12:58,160 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: if I may about three twenty four in the UFC 272 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 2: this Paramount era, when we think big picture and you 273 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 2: think about what the UFC can or should do with 274 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 2: this Paramount venture right now that it's kicking off and 275 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 2: now that it's into high gears. If a boxing starts tonight, 276 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 2: which again is kind of part of the whole thing, 277 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 2: but separate from that, just the UFC, what would you 278 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 2: say is the goal here? Is it to elevate to 279 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 2: even further into the mainstream, is it to build stars? 280 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 2: Is it to just generate more wealth? How do you 281 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 2: understand what the UFC's core mission should be with this 282 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 2: new arrangement. 283 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 3: Well, what their core mission is and what their core 284 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 3: mission should be very different because their core mission is 285 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 3: to generate wealth. I think we both know that's true. 286 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 3: Like they are just this is a money they are making, 287 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 3: their printing money, and so like that's what their core 288 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 3: mission is. I think as a ancillary product of that, 289 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 3: and maybe as like a secondary goal, it will be 290 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 3: to grow the sport more broadly, which I do believe 291 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 3: this deal will do. Right, Like I, we have talked 292 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 3: about a lot on various shows. I've talked about it 293 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 3: with you, You've talked about everybody else, and I still 294 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 3: don't think we have really acknowledged enough how big a 295 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 3: deal the removal of a paywall for American sports fans is, 296 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 3: there's a paywall, Paramount Plus isn't free. But like I 297 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 3: have friends who tomorrow night don't watch fights, or maybe 298 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 3: very occasionally watch the biggest fights, who already own Paramount Plus, 299 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 3: and now it's not at one in the morning, they're like, yeah, man, 300 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 3: I got nothing else going on on Saturday night. I'm 301 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 3: gonna throw on the fights and see what happens. That's 302 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 3: why they've put their best foot forward as far as 303 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 3: action fights, which we'll get to and I do think 304 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 3: that's gonna pay some dividends, not everybody can be a 305 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 3: fight fan. It is a niche, but they are. They're 306 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 3: casting a broader net with this deal, and there's some 307 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 3: things I'd love to see them do in that regard 308 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 3: that I think would would open up the sport even more, 309 00:14:54,200 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 3: but I also think are probably unlikely to happen. Now 310 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 3: you're muted. 311 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 2: Sorry, my bad. I opened up my can of a 312 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 2: and w root beer. It's nice, all right. Let's talk 313 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 2: about the card itself here and before we get to 314 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 2: the individual matchups themselves that we did lose. Obviously, the 315 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 2: co main event from was going to be Kayla versus Amanda. Nevertheless, 316 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 2: with that out of the picture, there is still there 317 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 2: are complaints about next week's card that I think are 318 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 2: a lot more valid. I gotta tell you, I like 319 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 2: this card. Whether it's the one that should have been 320 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 2: made with Arman, that's one question you can have. Whether 321 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 2: there should be an interim title up for grabs is 322 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 2: another question you can have. But just looking at the 323 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 2: slate of fights this tells me everything. I really enjoy this. 324 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to give this one eight and a half 325 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 2: out of ten. Maybe nine's a little strong. Eight and 326 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 2: a half out of ten. Where were you on this. 327 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 3: I'm right there. Nine if this still had Harrison noon 328 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 3: as this is easy like nine to nine point five here, 329 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 3: because that is the best fight on the card and 330 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 3: we lost that. But even so, this is still a 331 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 3: very good card and more importantly, and what I said 332 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 3: in the last little bit there, this is an exciting card. 333 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 3: Like I looking at this card top to bottom, and 334 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 3: certainly the big fights right the main card and the 335 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 3: middle prelim section, it is hard for me to imagine 336 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 3: any of those fights sucking. Maybe one of them, like 337 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 3: there may be one of those fights might not be 338 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 3: the most compelling, but especially for people who maybe are 339 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 3: tuning into the UC for the first time at the 340 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 3: first time in a long time because of the change 341 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 3: in price point. Basically, I, Luke, how could we possibly 342 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 3: wake up? Tell me how Sunday morning could look? Man? 343 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 3: That was boring. I did not have a good time 344 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 3: watching justin Gaetgee fight said no one ever, like I 345 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 3: think this card is going to be super fun. The 346 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 3: quibbles with it are like how important are some of 347 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 3: them these matchups? But they're even still mostly important. This 348 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 3: is a great card. 349 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 2: What kind of numbership or of viewership are you expecting 350 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 2: what do you think I have? 351 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 3: I genuinely have no concept for what like how that works. 352 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 2: Because Okay, so the NFL game can get thirty million 353 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 2: or more and that's the way. Are you doing that? Yeah, 354 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 2: they're not doing that, But can they get ten, fifteen 355 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 2: million something like that. 356 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 3: I'll go lower than ten because my biggest issue with 357 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,959 Speaker 3: this card is a thing that we shouldn't frankly care 358 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 3: about at all, and it is very stupid. But it's 359 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:38,239 Speaker 3: like they haven't promoted it. They have broadly promoted that 360 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 3: the UFC is on paramount now like at NFL games, 361 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 3: those commercials are run, but there was no like it 362 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 3: starts January twenty fourth, tune in. It's been very limited 363 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 3: in that regard, which is sort of odd to me 364 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 3: because you would think this is the first one they've 365 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 3: put such a good foot forward with the fights themselves, 366 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 3: they would want to promote the hell out of this 367 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 3: and try and lead with strong numbers. I doubt that 368 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 3: that's gonna happen. But also, what's the lead in on 369 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 3: this on Saturday? Like when are the NFL games? 370 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 2: Are? 371 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 3: They? 372 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 2: Are they both a question that's a great See NFL schedule. 373 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 3: They're both Sunday, so there's nothing Saturday, basically, I mean, 374 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 3: there'll be hockey and whatever. But in basketball, ten feels 375 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 3: like an ambitious goal. But let's say ten. Let's say 376 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 3: they crack into double digits. 377 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 2: I think that ten is fifteen seems high, especially if 378 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 2: you don't have like a huge star on here. But 379 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 2: I think ten with no paywall with you said, I 380 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 2: haven't promoted it, but and Dana, I know we've had 381 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 2: some questions about the degree to which he has promoted 382 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 2: this card, and I think that that in terms of 383 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 2: his enthusiasm. However, I have seen him kind of everywhere. 384 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 2: He's playing poker with with TMZ's Harry I think what's 385 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 2: his and Harry eleven, I forget his name, but you know, 386 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,199 Speaker 2: he did Complex, and he's doing all these sort of 387 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 2: like the regular podcasts, and he did CBS and he 388 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 2: did Blown and there's sort of a lot going on, 389 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 2: and I don't know what that's all going to amount to, 390 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 2: but like I don't know, Like this is more than 391 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 2: I've seen him do in quite a long while. 392 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 3: It's true, I honestly, because he has felt so ever present. 393 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 3: Maybe I just missed that part of it, But like 394 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 3: this week. They have done much more in general, right 395 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 3: like they have been and especially the UFC on Paramount 396 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 3: team has put out a lot of stuff. But it 397 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 3: felt like that this could have been built up to 398 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 3: over the you know, all of the NFL Playoffs, when 399 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 3: CBS had games more than just the occasional commercial. Of course, 400 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 3: they also did have the famous Golden Globes sequence, so 401 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 3: maybe I'm just dead wrong on this. 402 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well that didn't do much. 403 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 3: I mean's got a lot of people interested. 404 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 2: Man, Before we talk about the main event itself here, 405 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 2: which we're about to in just a moment, I think 406 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 2: the conversation should start on UFC's expectations. So obviously Justin 407 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 2: Gatchee is by no means out of this fight, But Jed, 408 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 2: would you agree that's it feels to me a little 409 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: bit like all eyes on Paddy pimblet like what Weather, 410 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 2: Because this is even if you want to say Justin 411 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 2: is passed it at thirty seven and pretty close to 412 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 2: the end of his career, he still is to me 413 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 2: a tougher fight than anyone he's had previously, so this 414 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 2: would be still something of an escalation for him. Even 415 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 2: if you want to say he's still fighting unks and 416 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 2: more to the point, it just kind of seems like 417 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 2: there is hope for this next generation of fighters, and 418 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 2: part of what this paramount deal is is getting some 419 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 2: of these guys a little bit more ably to the 420 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 2: front of the line. Am I exaggerating the Paddy pimblet 421 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 2: importance or do you share it? 422 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 4: No? 423 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 3: No, this is yeah, the one hundred percent, because he 424 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 3: is the best bet they have, maybe not the best, 425 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 3: but one of the very few bets the UFC has 426 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 3: for like a real star. And I know the company 427 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 3: at this point is so insulated from even needing like 428 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 3: super big stars anymore, but it's still nice to have, 429 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 3: Like it is a good thing to have people that 430 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:03,239 Speaker 3: people care about. And justin Gaegee is awesome and I 431 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 3: love him like a family member, but he ain't that. 432 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 3: And Patty, Patty has been Patty uniquely got over despite 433 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 3: not being good, Like how many times in the history 434 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 3: of the sport has a super popular fighter not been good? 435 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 3: And now Patty's become good. I don't not here to 436 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 3: detegrate the man, but like, if he can ascend, if 437 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 3: he can get about wrapped around him, it sets obviously 438 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 3: a monster fight with Ilio Tapuria business is just straight 439 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 3: up better if Patty Pimbleic gets the job done. You know, 440 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 3: the UFC will never need a fighter to win. But 441 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 3: I mean, it's hard to argue that. It's not like 442 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 3: they aren't wanting Patty Pimblet to come out victorious. 443 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 2: Do you think he can be a big star in 444 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 2: North America? Again, we're we're not in the pay per 445 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 2: view business anymore, so how they measured that is a 446 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,959 Speaker 2: little bit different. What is your sense of his star potential? 447 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 3: I assume so, because if you're a big star somewhere 448 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 3: you can that sort of translates. And like he is 449 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 3: infectiously fun, or at least the energy around him from 450 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 3: the people who love him is he has already travels 451 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 3: pretty well. You know, Patty the Battie is a fun 452 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 3: ass song man, and that's sometimes that's all you need 453 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 3: for a gimmick, Like, you don't need that much to 454 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 3: have a gimmick that gets over. You need something that 455 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 3: allows people to set aside their cynicism and whatever. And 456 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 3: just like, man, this is fun and singing Oh Paddy 457 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 3: the Bad like, that's fun. He has a lot of 458 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 3: gimmicks working, and it obviously works very well in Liverpool 459 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 3: and England, and it has started to work a little 460 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 3: here if he can get the thing holding him back. Certainly, 461 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 3: I think from broader appeal it has just been that 462 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 3: he is not a champion, right he is not. He 463 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 3: hasn't beaten anybody good frankly, but this is such a 464 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,959 Speaker 3: big moment for him. If it doesn't even matter afterwards, 465 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 3: we say, oh, just engage. He's a little bit washed. 466 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,479 Speaker 3: That won't matter. He'll have a belt wrapped around him. 467 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 3: He will be a UFC champion on the first big 468 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,479 Speaker 3: event for paramount ten million plus viewers. I think that'll 469 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 3: that'll elevate him in a major way and get him, 470 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 3: you know, not all the way over. It takes time 471 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 3: to build stars anywhere, but it'll be a huge step 472 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 3: to getting him like over over in North America. 473 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 2: I saw he did some crossover. I don't know how 474 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 2: much soccer you watch, but he did a crossover with 475 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 2: the CBS Sports Golazo, people like Kate Abdo and Jamie 476 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 2: Kriger and Big Meeks and dude. It did like big 477 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 2: numbers on social, Like I don't know, I didn't see 478 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 2: any other UFC fighter this week. Do any social that 479 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 2: came anywhere close to what Patty was getting at least 480 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 2: with some of those other Again, that's a little more 481 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 2: eurocentric than North American centric, but just in terms of 482 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 2: like aggregate numbers. Dude, that was the guy, you know 483 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 2: what I mean? He was he was, He was the 484 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 2: he was the entree here in this fucking meal. 485 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 3: So dude, he was on a fucking battlefield or whatever 486 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 3: one of those video games with I'm trying to remember 487 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 3: who all the people were where. He was one of 488 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 3: the four dudes in that video game commercial. Like, uh, 489 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 3: there's the fucking guy from high school musical. See I'm 490 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 3: not old. 491 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 2: And washed high school musical. 492 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 3: No, but he's super famous. Some people like him, and 493 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 3: he was also in Baywatch, and I just can't think 494 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 3: of his goddamn name right now. I am also old 495 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 3: and washed and my brain doesn't work anymore. Zach Efron, 496 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 3: like zac Efron and a bunch of other folks in 497 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 3: like a battlefield commercial. That's that ain't happening for anybody 498 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 3: else on roster. He's he has the potential to really 499 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 3: get over and they want him to and this is 500 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 3: the best way to do it. There's a reason Patty's 501 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 3: not waiting to fight Ilia or fighting on Zerukian. He's 502 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 3: fighting the one that he can win and try and 503 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 3: make him a thing, and God bless him at Maywell work. 504 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: How many fights within a weight class so we're not 505 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 2: talking weight class jumping, so I'm not talking about Ilia 506 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 2: versus Islam for example. How many fights in the UFC 507 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 2: are bigger than Ilia Taporia versus Patty Pimblet within the 508 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 2: weight class itself? 509 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 3: None. I don't like their fights. I might like more 510 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 3: or that are better. I don't think there's a bigger 511 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 3: fight in the sport outside of maybe a couple of, 512 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 3: like you said, weight class jumping fights, right, Like, yes, 513 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 3: you know, do we count Alex Peiro moving up to 514 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 3: heavyweight as weight class jumping because maybe him. 515 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 2: Versus yes, because he's the champion at two of five 516 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 2: so yeah, but if Buddy actually just like bails to 517 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 2: move up, like yeah, No, as far as intra divisional, 518 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 2: it's the I think it's the biggest fight that the 519 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 2: sport has. Interesting, all right, let's talk about the fight itself. 520 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 2: We're going to get to the gay chee equation here. 521 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 2: I know we've been kind of parting on Patty, but 522 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 2: I think it's important. So let's start with Patty here 523 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 2: in terms of the x's and o's. Where are you 524 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 2: jed in the argument about the strength of schedule that 525 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 2: Patty has faced A and then B What do you 526 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 2: actually think that means for Saturday? Materially? 527 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 3: I think it is unequivocally true that he has not 528 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:08,959 Speaker 3: faced good opposition. I don't think that that matters at all. Right, Like, 529 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 3: it can be a factor in all I mean, it 530 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 3: can be a factor in your holistic view of how 531 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 3: the fight goes. But like, you don't fight good OPO 532 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 3: until you fight good OPO. You know he can't. He could, 533 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 3: I guess, have helped it, But like, I don't think 534 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 3: that it is a significant bearing on him because he's 535 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 3: fought a lot. He has fought people over the balance 536 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 3: of his career who gave him opposition. It's not like 537 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 3: he's spent his whole career mashing turds, right, Like he's 538 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 3: he has beaten professional fighters, and even though at the 539 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 3: time his wins came, especially in the UFC, they weren't 540 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 3: like against guys at the peak of their powers. He's still, 541 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 3: like I just I struggle to think that Justin Gaichie 542 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 3: is going to come in and be like, I've never 543 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 3: seen this before from Justin Gaigie. If he loses, he's 544 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 3: gonna lose, not because Justin Gaigie's you know, because he's 545 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 3: never fought a good guy. He's gonna lose because Justin 546 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 3: Engage is better than him. But I it's also disingenuous 547 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 3: to be like, actually, Patty Pimblet has fought very good people. 548 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 3: He is not. Look at his UFC run is mostly terrible. 549 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 3: And then as he started to fight good names, what 550 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 3: does a win over Michael Chandler in the Year of 551 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 3: Our Lord twenty twenty five mean? I don't think it 552 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 3: means a whole lot, But the way he beat him 553 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 3: is still good, Like that's still valuable to beat somebody dominantly, 554 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 3: and so I don't think it matters too much. I 555 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 3: think it is definitely true that he doesn't fall very 556 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 3: good people. 557 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 2: I'm okay, So I did this exercise. One of the 558 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 2: things I love about five passes. Sometimes you can't do this, 559 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 2: Like if you're trying to do this, for example, with 560 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 2: like Robbie Lawler, it's it would take forever. But in 561 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 2: the case of someone like Patty Pimblet, you can just 562 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 2: watch their whole much of their entire career, soay again, 563 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 2: whole career. Basically, yeah, I watched his entire UFC run 564 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 2: in chronological order, from the beginning to the last one, 565 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 2: the Chandler fight, and just watching what we could see. 566 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 2: What were the mistakes that keeps showing up. My man's 567 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 2: got a problem with defending the left hook. That is 568 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 2: a big issue for him. However, dude, here's what I 569 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 2: would come Here's why I come down on this question 570 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 2: of like his opposition to your point. You know, he's 571 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 2: been doing the Joaquing Buckley thing where he's just fighting unks, 572 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 2: and then you know, the question is, could it be 573 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 2: the same thing as Buckley where you fight like the 574 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 2: boss unk in in kamar Usman and you come up short? 575 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 2: Is just in Gaatechie something like that? I guess we're 576 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 2: gonna find out. However, if you just watch his game 577 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 2: from that first fight in UFC until the one of 578 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 2: the Chandler one, the level of progress is absolutely manifestly undeniable, 579 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:46,719 Speaker 2: and it surprised me in ways that I wasn't necessarily expecting. 580 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 2: You know, the funny part was, so when gatechee, excuse me, 581 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 2: when pimblet came to the UFC Jed, so he made 582 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 2: his UFC debut. He had already had nearly twenty fights, 583 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 2: and my general view is if someone has that many 584 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 2: fights before they get to the UFC, on one hand, 585 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 2: that's good experience. On the other hand, if there's still 586 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 2: got really bad striking, then this is a bit of 587 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 2: a red flag. And it could have been there were 588 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 2: times he got his shit rocked and then survived. However, 589 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 2: what has happened is he has kind of I think 590 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 2: developed beyond even what I necessarily thought possible. He has 591 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 2: improved so much so we already know his back attacks 592 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 2: were great. We already know his submissions from the back 593 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 2: are pretty great. He's got really really good ability there. 594 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 2: But the stand up Jed the stand up for me, 595 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 2: both in how he sets things up, putting more fakes 596 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 2: and faints in front of them, not overrunning position, putting 597 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 2: combinations together right, have better footwork but steadier balance, Like dude, 598 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 2: my man has clearly leveled up a few different times. 599 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 2: And whether or not you think he can be just 600 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 2: engaged you, we'll get to that in just a moment. 601 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 2: But the notion that, oh, well, he hasn't beaten any one, 602 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 2: So therefore we can't learn anything. I just think there's 603 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 2: no truth to that whatsoever. The tape is very clear 604 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 2: and to say nothing, Jed, would you not agree he's 605 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 2: physically much bigger than he was even when he started 606 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 2: in the UFC. 607 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 3: He is. I was rewatching stuff this week in prep for, 608 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 3: you know, the various things he is. Just like, he 609 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 3: was so cartoonishly bigger than Michael Chandler in that fight 610 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 3: and he did the Honestly kind of thought it was 611 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 3: a pretty good gimmick from him when they did their 612 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,719 Speaker 3: first face off and he he slouched and got himself 613 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 3: real small. And then they did their face off yesterday 614 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 3: and justin Gator's like, holy shit, did you grow three inches? Happened? 615 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 3: Like he's a big, big man and I think that 616 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 3: matters a lot for how his game goes. But like, yeah, 617 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 3: that's basically that's my point. LUDE was like, that dude 618 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 3: is better. I did not think he had a future 619 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 3: when he came to the UFC. I was like, Okay, 620 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 3: he's just gonna be Molly McCann. He might get some wins, 621 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 3: he'll be super popular. They can take him to England 622 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 3: every time they go, and the crowd will be live 623 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 3: and maybe you can manufacture him a run. But at 624 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 3: the time, like I remember doing segments being like, how 625 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 3: do we manufacture a title shot? Like how do we 626 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 3: pick and choose his way up the rank is like 627 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 3: you can't once it gets to six, There's just no 628 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 3: world he can climate, and that has been demonstrably false. 629 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 3: Like he has gotten progress in this sport is not 630 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 3: linear by any stretch of the imagination, But Patty has 631 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 3: linear progress, Like he is better every time we see him, 632 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 3: which is really impressive to your point, man, like when 633 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 3: you have twenty fights, the cakes kind of baked, not 634 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 3: so for him, and so like he's still got a 635 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 3: lot of flaws in my opinion, and his striking like 636 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 3: has come a long way, but I mostly think it's 637 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 3: come offensively and defensively. He's still a bit of a mess, 638 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 3: but like that might just not matter. So he has 639 00:31:54,680 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 3: been like incredibly impressive in his ability to continue to improve. 640 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 3: And like I think fighters say I'm going to prove 641 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 3: you all wrong way too much. It's just sort of 642 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 3: wiring in their brain. But like Patty had legitimate haters. 643 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 3: I was one of them, and I have been forced 644 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 3: to eat cro time and time again as he has 645 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 3: continued to compete very high level. 646 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 2: And I'm gonna say one last thing on this before 647 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 2: we talk about Gai Chee for me personally, you know, 648 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 2: all the belly aching. Oh, the UFC gave him all 649 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 2: these extra opportunities against guys that were too weak, just 650 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 2: to build them up. Yeah, they did, they did. Here's 651 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 2: the thing. If he makes good on it, though, it 652 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 2: will have all been worth it, because then they'll have 653 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 2: promoted someone who feasted on lesser talent as he got 654 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 2: better and better and better, and then by the time 655 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 2: he had to face some the real consequences, you know, 656 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 2: real stakes, he was ready for it at that point, 657 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 2: like it would actually be again if he loses. This 658 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 2: as a different consideration, but if Patty wins on Saturday, 659 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 2: it's actually proof of concept that what the UFC did 660 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 2: with him was very much the correct call. Some guys 661 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 2: get favoritism, and that is unfair in the fight game. 662 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 2: And a lot of times fighters get favoritism and they 663 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 2: can't make it work. But sometimes they do, and if 664 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 2: they're able to make it work, the entire thing ends 665 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 2: up being bigger than the sum of its parts. Now 666 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 2: let's talk about go ahead. 667 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 3: That's just called development like that is, it's just prospect development. 668 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 3: It happens in boxing because specific orgs own specific fighters, 669 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 3: so they are developing these guys. The UFC just owns everybody, 670 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 3: and so their broad plan has been throw them all together. 671 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 3: Whoever comes out on top, that'll be fine, but that 672 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 3: doesn't like this is way better way to do it. 673 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 2: All right, Let's talk about justin Gaegee for a moment here. 674 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 2: First of all, where are you on the very basic 675 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 2: question of where his physical health is? Talking about the 676 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 2: barbecue sauce that he had right and then also he 677 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 2: made these fighter pay comments. He's clearly agitated about it. 678 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 2: Yesterday he shut down Jose Young's when he followed up 679 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 2: on it, and so he doesn't want to deal with 680 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 2: it now, but it's on the back of his mind. 681 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 2: There's like, I don't know, I'm not On the one hand, 682 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 2: I'm not prepared whatsoever to be like, oh, he's not 683 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 2: mentally locked in. I don't know if Gchi needs to 684 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 2: be one mentally locked in, but I do bet that 685 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 2: he is. I've bet come competition time he's ready to rock. 686 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 2: At the same time, I don't know fair to say 687 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 2: there are issues swirling around him at this point. 688 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 3: I mean sort of, but like, I don't I'm with you. 689 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 3: I don't think that's gonna matter because the issues swirling 690 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 3: around him aren't like they don't seem to be the 691 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 3: kind that might permeate when you are in fight or 692 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 3: flight mode. And that's what will come tomorrow night, Like 693 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 3: justin Gagi'll lock in, He're get in a fist fight, 694 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 3: and at no point during that is he going to 695 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 3: be like, oh man, I shouldn't have said that about 696 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 3: fighter pay or like whatever. I will say. There's an 697 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 3: issue I am concerned about with him, and that may 698 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 3: play a role for as much as he wants to 699 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 3: pretend that that's an ingrown hair, maybe it started as 700 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 3: an ingrown hair. I don't know. On a medical doctor. 701 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 3: You can see this fancy degree on my wall right here. 702 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 3: I am not a medical doctor. That was not an 703 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 3: ingrown air man. And the fact that it's still like 704 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 3: covered up suggests to me that that probably was a 705 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 3: bigger issue, and the concern there is not that like, 706 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 3: oh no, he has staff going into the fight tomorrow. 707 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 3: It's oh no, three weeks ago he had staff and 708 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 3: was on antibiotics which effed up the you know, final 709 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 3: most important part of your training schedule. So like that 710 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 3: is stuff. I'm genuinely concerned about the fighter pay thing. 711 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,959 Speaker 3: I think he just wishes he could take that back, 712 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 3: despite it being true or whatever, because that added, you know, 713 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 3: an unnecessary thing to now talk about. And justin Gage, 714 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,240 Speaker 3: when he was before he said the fightle pay comments, 715 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 3: I think I think it was before at media day 716 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 3: he was like, yeah, my life. He was talking about 717 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,240 Speaker 3: how things have changed in his times, like I speak 718 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 3: to the media less because I don't like you. And 719 00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,919 Speaker 3: so I think that he's just like, man, I wish 720 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 3: and said that because I don't I don't want to 721 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 3: do this part of it. But that's not gonna affect him. 722 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 4: On Saturday, we. 723 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 2: Have a clip of Patty talking about what appears to 724 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,720 Speaker 2: be just engage you's staff. Let's see what he says. 725 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,399 Speaker 3: Did you see rumors of just having staff on his neck? 726 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? 727 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 5: Seen it. It's one of them what it'll be meant 728 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,720 Speaker 5: to do, you know what I mean? Who's got staff? 729 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 5: Like he's got staff, doesn't matter that he's got staff 730 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 5: on I'm still gonna smash his head in both there's 731 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 5: lads in our Jim move forward staff enough people out 732 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 5: in the first round, so that doesn't affect that bad. 733 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 5: That'll be another excuse for everyone went a wain. 734 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 3: That'll be like, oh, just engage your stuff as well. 735 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 736 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 5: So it's one of them. 737 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 2: I get on with it. 738 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 5: I'm gonna be turning up in the cage and alls. 739 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 5: That matters is if I tearing up, nobody beats me. 740 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's about right. What else is 741 00:36:58,400 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 2: he supposed to say? Here? 742 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,919 Speaker 3: Look, he's that was nails. He absolutely nails, Like, dude, 743 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 3: I don't really care and beat him anyway. And it 744 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 3: is true because there will be people not me, I 745 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 3: think if Patty wins, unless it's like I'm trying to 746 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 3: think of a scenario where a Patty victory would make 747 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 3: me be like, actually, Justin probably would have beat him 748 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 3: if he didn't have staff. But they're gonna be people 749 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 3: who will just be like, yeah, you fought an old 750 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 3: and compromise gae chee hooray. And that's fair for him 751 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 3: to be like. They're gonna say it because they are, 752 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 3: and it won't matter when he wins. 753 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 2: Frankly, all right, So let's talk about the matchup itself. 754 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 2: If I had to ask, what would you say for 755 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 2: each fighter is their number one objective? And I don't 756 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,359 Speaker 2: mean just win, I mean in terms of like what 757 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 2: you what what does the fight need to look like 758 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 2: in either direction for you to have confidence that one 759 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 2: fighter or the other is winning. So, for example, I 760 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 2: personally believe just all one side of the equation. I 761 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,240 Speaker 2: won't spoil the whole thing. I think Gaegie has to pressure, 762 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 2: and like pressure a lot, because you've got a guy 763 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,919 Speaker 2: in Patty who's gonna want to kick, kickkick and keep range. 764 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 2: He's not gonna be a boxing range with a guy 765 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 2: who can just lower the fucking boom on you, like 766 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 2: justin Gaechie can. So if he's getting pressured, I'm a 767 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 2: little bit more concerned about his chances. How do you 768 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 2: see what some of the major fault lines are? 769 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,280 Speaker 3: Man, I wish you hadn't said that, because now Chad's 770 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 3: gonna be like Jed's just copying Luke. 771 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 6: Uh. 772 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 3: I think I think the fault lines for both like 773 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,879 Speaker 3: you could broadly say keep it standing and take him 774 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,839 Speaker 3: down and be a dipshit loser who's not providing anything real. 775 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 6: Uh. 776 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 3: I think that is the same fault line for both dudes. 777 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 3: I think both men need to be coming forward. I 778 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,839 Speaker 3: think both men need to be pressuring. Whoever is moving 779 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 3: back is going to lose this fight, in my opinion, 780 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 3: because Justin Gaigie is just frankly not that good fighting 781 00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 3: backwards in general, but stylistically it is. It certainly behooves 782 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 3: him to your point to take away the range that 783 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 3: Patty will have to put Patty on the back foot 784 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 3: so he can't shoot as clean a takedown entries. He's 785 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 3: not like a great wrestler, but like it's really hard 786 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 3: to wrestle backing up like that, that is a very 787 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:18,240 Speaker 3: difficult thing to do. And more importantly, Patty is again 788 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 3: I mentioned earlier man, he got some problems defensively loop 789 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 3: And it's not just that his head hangs way up 790 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 3: here begging to be hit. It's that when he backs up, 791 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 3: he backs up. He has never taken an angle in 792 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 3: his life as far as I've seen, like he backs 793 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 3: up on a straight line. And so if you are 794 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 3: just pushing him back, you're going to take that space 795 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 3: away from him and make his life, his job way 796 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 3: more difficult. So if I am, you know, Justin Gai Chee. 797 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,240 Speaker 3: That's like the whole thing in camp is forward pressure, 798 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 3: forward pressure, and maybe don't get like too chaotic because 799 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 3: that might open up opportunities for Patty. It's the same 800 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 3: because Justin Gai Chee is not very good on the 801 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 3: back foot. I know that this fight is a very 802 00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 3: long time ago at this point and Patty a but 803 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 3: like Habib just beat the hell out of Justin Gai 804 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 3: Chee by making him back up, and Gage's better at 805 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 3: moving on angles. He was circling, he was on his bike, 806 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,280 Speaker 3: but like Habib was just in his fucking grill man 807 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,799 Speaker 3: and eventually that he backed him up so much and 808 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 3: he wasn't so focused on shooting. Habib was pressure pressure, 809 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 3: striking and then finally took the shot, like at the 810 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 3: end of that first round. I think something very similar 811 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,839 Speaker 3: for Patty. Move forward, be in his face, pressure him, Oh, 812 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 3: be open to the striking, right, you don't have to 813 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 3: spam takedowns. And then once once go Chee's in the 814 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 3: middle of a firefight, that's when you change levels and 815 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:42,840 Speaker 3: then it's curtains. 816 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 2: Can Patty pimmelet win without getting a takedown or getting 817 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 2: to the back Yes. 818 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,399 Speaker 3: I think he has also one of the like as 819 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 3: I was breaking this down, a thing that really jumped 820 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 3: out of me. I don't think he would be favored. 821 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 3: I want to be super super clear here about that. 822 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 3: But he can crack a little bit. Geechee is not 823 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 3: the same person he has been. I think that Gechee 824 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 3: can take a shot from Patty just fine. But I think, 825 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 3: you know, there are some opportunities. Patty's kicking game has 826 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 3: come a long way, which is super helpful, especially because 827 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 3: gay Chee might be less inclined to kick for fear 828 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 3: of takedowns, which I think would be a mistake. But 829 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 3: that's a whole separate issue. But Patty's also started to like, 830 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 3: really like to throw uppercuts. He was doing that a 831 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,879 Speaker 3: lot against Michael Chandler or looking forward a lot aiains 832 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 3: Michael Chandler, both because of the stature. Michael Chandler's just 833 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 3: shorter than him, makes Zupper cut better. But I think 834 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 3: that that would be like a pretty Justin ducks his 835 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 3: head like a lot, and so Justin really comes down 836 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 3: with it. You just start firing some uppercuts in there, 837 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 3: and good things might really happen. That may like ultimately, 838 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 3: I guess I'm actually going to totally change my answer 839 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 3: because I'm really bad at doing TV TV. But like 840 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 3: the answer is probably no because he's not gonna cold 841 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 3: Justin and so if when he gets Justin Gatgee hurt, 842 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,320 Speaker 3: he's going to immediately grapple, but like he probably doesn't 843 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,359 Speaker 3: need to be grappling forward. It is just a way 844 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 3: better idea in my opinion. 845 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm of the belief that it could happen. 846 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 2: You mentioned the uppercut that uppercut right hook is or 847 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,839 Speaker 2: excuse me, the uppercut left hook. I think that's right. 848 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 2: The uppercut hook from Patty is one of his favorite 849 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 2: combos and he's actually he used to just kind of 850 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 2: lunge into it and now he actually sets it up 851 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 2: pretty well. So to me, that's pretty potent. What I 852 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 2: would say is, I know we need to move on 853 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,839 Speaker 2: here to some other fights. But what I would say is, 854 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,880 Speaker 2: I think he can win on the feet, but I 855 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,320 Speaker 2: do think it's probably more likely than not he wouldn't 856 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 2: last thing on this. In terms of the x's and o's, 857 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 2: do you what is your level of confidence in a 858 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,399 Speaker 2: Let's okay, let's say it goes the distance. Let's say 859 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,400 Speaker 2: it goes the distance, how many takedowns does and why 860 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,760 Speaker 2: count takedowns were count Matt returns? How many takedowns does 861 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 2: Patty get? 862 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,319 Speaker 3: Two or three? If this goes the distance, I feel 863 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 3: pretty good that it. Justin Gegee has won this fight 864 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,800 Speaker 3: because Patty has been mostly durable in his career and. 865 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 2: Els sorcerers don't get knocked out. 866 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 3: As yeah sorcers. Sorcerers do not get knocked out. Who 867 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 3: said Cody uh Dardarah? 868 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 4: No, it was the guar brand Cody Garbran. 869 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, man, Like he's been fairly durable and so 870 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,799 Speaker 3: to me, if this fight goes to the distance, like 871 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 3: to the cards, it is. Gechee mostly kept it standing. 872 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 3: Patty was durable enough, and Geechee didn't like really force 873 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 3: the issue. He was just very comfortable beating his ass 874 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:41,319 Speaker 3: with a jab that he never uses. But like, if 875 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,400 Speaker 3: this goes because if this ever, if he gets takedowns, 876 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 3: he's it's over. I have no confidence in Justin Geechee 877 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:53,240 Speaker 3: to like spend twenty minutes on bottom not getting tapped. 878 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 3: If he if Patty is consistently getting takedowns, this fight 879 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:57,319 Speaker 3: is done. 880 00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, that I agree with, Or if he gets to 881 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 2: ount or something like that. I think, and there's time 882 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 2: if he gets mount, let's say, and there's two minutes 883 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 2: left in the round, that's that's a bad sign for him. 884 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 2: We do have a clip of Justin who reasserts his 885 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 2: ability that eating ko anybody. 886 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 4: Patty has said from day one and have come into 887 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 4: the UFC, scousers can't get knocked out. How much are 888 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 4: you're looking forward to prove you not wrong? 889 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't have to be a doctor to know that. 890 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 7: If you have a brain, you can get shut off 891 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 7: if I just shake it. And so I'll show him, 892 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 7: you know, if I could shake his head and make 893 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 7: his brain touch his skull, he's gonna go to sleep. 894 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,280 Speaker 7: The only thing appeals to me right now is knocking 895 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,760 Speaker 7: a scouser out and representing America. 896 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,959 Speaker 3: And that's what I'm here to do. Dude, that's such 897 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:43,239 Speaker 3: a cold fucking line. Doesn't take a doctor to make 898 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 3: his to know, make his brain touch his skull. It's 899 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 3: just like, all right, you're a different kind of dude 900 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 3: than I am. Just engaging. 901 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 2: He has thought long and hard about it, as you 902 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 2: can tell, all right, And if you would care to 903 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,799 Speaker 2: hazard or prediction again, I do these for fun because 904 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,160 Speaker 2: I have no fucking idea who's gonna win. But what 905 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:00,799 Speaker 2: do you think, Jed. 906 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,319 Speaker 3: I'm wanna be very clear, this is not smart. This 907 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,359 Speaker 3: is lizard brain, Jed. They're inside every man there too. 908 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,320 Speaker 3: Man One is a rational actor and the other is 909 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 3: a lizard and lizard brain. Jed has taken the wheel 910 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 3: and he'll be picking Justin Gaigie. Not for any technical 911 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 3: or logical reasons, but because if Justin Gachie loses to 912 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 3: Patty Pimblet, He's probably going to retire and I am 913 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 3: simply not prepared for that. He's the most exciting fighter 914 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 3: in the history of the sport and I would like 915 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 3: to see him continue to compete. So, uh, Justin Gaichie 916 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 3: knocks that big old scouse aer out. He proves that 917 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,400 Speaker 3: he can in fact make his brain touch his skull, 918 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 3: and uh, I don't know, Like second third round, t 919 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,400 Speaker 3: KO win for Justin Gagee. 920 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Patty. I'm gonna go Patty. Now, this 921 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 2: is the this is the rub. I don't know. I 922 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 2: don't know. I've just feel like one way or the other, 923 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,279 Speaker 2: he's going to be able to get it done. So 924 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 2: I'll say t KO. But that's maybe not be right 925 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 2: because he could his ground and pound wasn't bad against Chandler, 926 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 2: but Chandler was squirmy underneath, so it's a little harder 927 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 2: to you know, I'll say sub. 928 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,319 Speaker 3: I think I think sub is a much better choice than. 929 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 2: I'll think he'll sub. All right, long Island prediction from 930 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 2: the main event. 931 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,359 Speaker 4: I did no bets barred earlier this week with Jed, 932 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 4: and he convinced me, Man, we gotta go justin Gaigie here, 933 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 4: justin gaechie Ko. I agree with Jed. I think round 934 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,839 Speaker 4: two or three, I'll say round two. H One thing 935 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,400 Speaker 4: I want to just bring up is everyone's all up 936 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 4: in arms about Paddy vaping in this video here, and 937 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,279 Speaker 4: they're like, what the fuck? I bet on Patty and 938 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:43,279 Speaker 4: he's vaping. But like people forget man, Justin Goichie. My 939 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 4: man rips that damn I mean iron lung justin Goichie here, 940 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 4: I'm taking it's. 941 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:49,760 Speaker 3: Just lung training. 942 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 4: All that is. 943 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,280 Speaker 2: Where did he get this bong? 944 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:53,799 Speaker 4: What? 945 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 2: Other than this is an oil rig? 946 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,399 Speaker 4: This is not a bong technically, you know. 947 00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:58,919 Speaker 3: What the fuck is an oil rig? 948 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 4: You put like hashill wax butter, you know, shit like that. 949 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 3: And it and goddamn spaceship. 950 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:05,319 Speaker 1: Yeah. 951 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 2: Bro, this guy's like, oh, yeah, this is where you know. 952 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,879 Speaker 2: It's not a it's not a bong, it's an oil rig. 953 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,439 Speaker 2: This is where you smoke things like gee, these guys 954 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 2: are out here smoking alternative butters and then being like, 955 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,919 Speaker 2: how can you not know it's called an oil rig? 956 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,840 Speaker 2: I don't know because I have a mortgage in a family. 957 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,359 Speaker 2: What do you mean, what kind of a question is that. 958 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 3: Don't act like you didn't do sativa or whatever. 959 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,719 Speaker 2: All right, let's go talk about our comin event now, 960 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,240 Speaker 2: which again, originally it was scheduled scheduled to be Amanda 961 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,400 Speaker 2: Nunez taking on Kayla Harrison, that is postponed for the 962 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 2: foreseeable future. So in steps a man who we all 963 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,440 Speaker 2: left on the side of the at least the title 964 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,399 Speaker 2: shot road. But here he is back in a fight 965 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,479 Speaker 2: that by itself, you would just look out on paper 966 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 2: and you would say, oh, I don't know if this 967 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,920 Speaker 2: is gonna put him back in a title shot, but 968 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,839 Speaker 2: it just might do it. Sean O'Malley is back after 969 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,240 Speaker 2: losing in back to back fights to Marob Dawallash Wheeley. 970 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:03,800 Speaker 2: He takes on Song you dong, And this is the question, obviously, 971 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,719 Speaker 2: Jed on everyone's mind. It has been my thought, and 972 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,759 Speaker 2: I'm guessing it's gonna be I think it's the entire 973 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,919 Speaker 2: world's fight, right. We all thought that after Mirob beat 974 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,800 Speaker 2: him the second time, it's like, oh, well, now Morob 975 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,880 Speaker 2: is lapping the competition. But then things change at the 976 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,880 Speaker 2: end of twenty twenty five and Pyotr Jan recaptured the title, 977 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,160 Speaker 2: and now Yon is looking at either Umar and Numergamdov 978 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 2: potential fight if he wins. We'll talk about that later. 979 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,480 Speaker 2: Certainly Morob is gonna get back in there, I'm sure 980 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,400 Speaker 2: without having to fight another one. But then Sean O'Malley, 981 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:36,280 Speaker 2: who has a win over Yon, a controversial split decision 982 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 2: win over Yan, who, by the way, Jed is an American, 983 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 2: and I think guys who are American. I'm not saying 984 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 2: this like people think I'm saying this pejoratively. I'm not. 985 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,839 Speaker 2: I'm just saying it like to the extent possible objectively, 986 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:48,520 Speaker 2: which is that I think if you're in a young 987 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 2: American particularly have an electric, you know, friendly style, they're 988 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,600 Speaker 2: gonna start moving you to bigger opportunities if you can 989 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,000 Speaker 2: kind of keep winning, maybe a little bit faster than 990 00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 2: they normally would. Song, you dong to me, is I 991 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 2: think a very good fighter, but hasn't beat anyone like 992 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:07,880 Speaker 2: Sean O'Malley. So the question is, Jed, it's it's title 993 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 2: shot city. If he wins, this is it? 994 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 5: Not? 995 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, this is like, this is the fight where 996 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,319 Speaker 3: I'm way more concerned about, like the level of competition 997 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,760 Speaker 3: because Song has has fought good fighters and hasn't beaten them, 998 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,600 Speaker 3: and so it's like, Okay, we feel like we have 999 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 3: a ceiling on you. And the question is is Sean 1000 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,799 Speaker 3: a good fighter? Because he's also had a weird up 1001 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,080 Speaker 3: and down run, but like he is a good fighter. 1002 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,280 Speaker 3: The eyeballs show you that he's a good fighter, and uh, 1003 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,400 Speaker 3: he is. This is this is a bit like the 1004 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,400 Speaker 3: Patty combo here, Luke, And they're like, yeah, is this 1005 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 3: is this right? Is this the proper way? No, but 1006 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:49,320 Speaker 3: we're developing stars and a hundred percent if he beats 1007 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:54,399 Speaker 3: maybe ninety five percent, because certainty's tough. If he beats Song, 1008 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 3: he is fighting Pyodion. I think not at the White House, 1009 00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,319 Speaker 3: but like I think he is challenging Pyodion next in 1010 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,760 Speaker 3: a rematch if he beats Song you Dong on Saturday, 1011 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 3: which is insane, but like, eh, here we are. 1012 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 2: Why has okay? Obviously, Song your Dong's never been a champion. 1013 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,080 Speaker 2: He has worked extensively on his English, but it's not 1014 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,240 Speaker 2: his native language. By the way, credit to Sean O'Malley. 1015 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 2: The orcs on social media went after him for it 1016 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,359 Speaker 2: when he apologized for the COVID mask, but actually thought 1017 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,760 Speaker 2: it was a decent gesture that he apologized. Okay, putting 1018 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:30,840 Speaker 2: that aside, though, why, in your estimation is the entire 1019 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 2: conversation about O'Malley and there let me let me, let 1020 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,719 Speaker 2: me reframe the question. Should there be more of a 1021 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,799 Speaker 2: conversation about the potential upside here of Song you Dong? 1022 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,200 Speaker 2: Or is the amount that we're giving him, which is 1023 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,719 Speaker 2: he could win but probably won't. Is that sufficient? 1024 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 3: That's a really good question. Look at you big brain 1025 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,320 Speaker 3: on Luke over there, because. 1026 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,719 Speaker 2: I have struggle with this because I just just did 1027 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 2: you see, for example, someone brought us up to me 1028 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:58,239 Speaker 2: in my life chat and I hadn't seen it when 1029 00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 2: they brought it up, but I went and I looked afterwards. 1030 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,880 Speaker 2: Corey Sandhagen put out a big video on like basically 1031 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,840 Speaker 2: why I mean, he didn't say it this way, but 1032 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,520 Speaker 2: that why Song You Dong has like very little chance 1033 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 2: of beating Sean just based on how they fight and 1034 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,400 Speaker 2: their styles and whatnot. And you know, taking that for 1035 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:14,879 Speaker 2: what it is worth, Let's say that it is true. 1036 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 2: Maybe it's not, but let's say that it's true. It's like, okay, well, 1037 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 2: then that does kind of explain why no one's talking 1038 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,719 Speaker 2: about Song You Dong. But I just kind of feel like, 1039 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,239 Speaker 2: here's a guy who has kind of slowly put things 1040 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,120 Speaker 2: together and he's leveled up and then kind of taking 1041 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:28,759 Speaker 2: a step back, but then leveled up again and kind 1042 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,440 Speaker 2: of taking a step back. Why are we discounting his 1043 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,799 Speaker 2: opportunity here to actually really level up for the first 1044 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:35,879 Speaker 2: time in a major way. 1045 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,520 Speaker 3: I think the answer is a combination of factors, one 1046 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,919 Speaker 3: being people don't think he's gonna win and spoiler alert, 1047 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,200 Speaker 3: I'm kind of with him. I think the other is like, 1048 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,680 Speaker 3: because he has had he's had stepbacks, like the worst 1049 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,880 Speaker 3: moments right where he started to build momentum, got a 1050 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,719 Speaker 3: big opportunity and then lost it, and it's very tough 1051 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,360 Speaker 3: for people to stay current on you. And then like 1052 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 3: his last fight, the weirdness within and there was beating 1053 00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,640 Speaker 3: Suto's ass like that was an opportunity to get over 1054 00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,840 Speaker 3: and it ended in such a wonky way. And I 1055 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,160 Speaker 3: think specifically for this fight outside of the people think 1056 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 3: Sean's gonna win and Seawan is a big star or whatever. 1057 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,719 Speaker 3: I think it's also that this fight wasn't supposed to 1058 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,280 Speaker 3: be here like this was how often are we really 1059 00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 3: that focused on the feature bout of any card, right, 1060 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,000 Speaker 3: And in the last couple of weeks this jolted up 1061 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,960 Speaker 3: because we lost the Comaine and so now it's got scrutiny, 1062 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,200 Speaker 3: more scrutiny, and the focus is going to be on 1063 00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,760 Speaker 3: Sean O'Malley because he is the much more known quantity. 1064 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,759 Speaker 3: I do wonder, like I did not wonder until you 1065 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,000 Speaker 3: asked the question, And now I'm sitting here thinking like 1066 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,920 Speaker 3: it might have behooved the UFC to back him a 1067 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,640 Speaker 3: little more, to at least back the option of him, 1068 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 3: because if he does go out there and beat Sean O'Malley, 1069 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,960 Speaker 3: that's his big win. That is the win that elevates 1070 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:56,240 Speaker 3: you to the top. And like, dude, he is twenty 1071 00:52:56,280 --> 00:53:00,360 Speaker 3: eight years old, you know he is a just a 1072 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 3: handsome man. I don't know how else to phrase it. 1073 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,480 Speaker 3: I'm sure the chat will love that is a very 1074 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:05,080 Speaker 3: handsome man. 1075 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,120 Speaker 2: Did you see him in meeting Bangham? You just doing 1076 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:08,560 Speaker 2: the whole bit. 1077 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,719 Speaker 3: Look, I mean he probably wouldn't choose to do that 1078 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,719 Speaker 3: with me, but did you see him a media day? 1079 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,640 Speaker 3: That man has like effortless swag to him. And I 1080 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,040 Speaker 3: don't know if you know this. He's Chinese and that's 1081 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,320 Speaker 3: a fairly big market of people. And right now the 1082 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,319 Speaker 3: best Chinese stars they have are Jeangweili, who is a 1083 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:30,040 Speaker 3: billion years old, and they tried to make the Mountain 1084 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,920 Speaker 3: Tiger a thing and then he just got gods like 1085 00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,960 Speaker 3: it might have been a better idea for the UC 1086 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,560 Speaker 3: to give him a little more push, but it's not 1087 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,600 Speaker 3: too late. And if he does beat Shawn O'Malley, I 1088 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,520 Speaker 3: think they're going to try their best to put the 1089 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,520 Speaker 3: rockets to him and see what they've got with him. 1090 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,799 Speaker 2: Here's the I mean, they it's heads heads, you know, 1091 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,600 Speaker 2: they win tails they I mean, this is not the phrase, 1092 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 2: but they kind of also went here twenty eight years old. 1093 00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,560 Speaker 2: Song it on as you mentioned Chinese. Uh, the thing 1094 00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,279 Speaker 2: I've been looking at this is they keep trying to 1095 00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,919 Speaker 2: level him up before he's ready. So he gets three wins, 1096 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:02,840 Speaker 2: and after losing to Kyler Phillips, who's very good, he 1097 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,920 Speaker 2: beats more Lavera, loses to Kyler Phillips, gets three wins 1098 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,279 Speaker 2: in a row, then loses to San Haagen granted on 1099 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:08,800 Speaker 2: a cup, but he was kinda. 1100 00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:10,080 Speaker 3: He's getting dumped. 1101 00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,120 Speaker 2: He was getting thumped a little bit. Then he beats 1102 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,880 Speaker 2: Simone knocks him out quickly. He reads gutierres You're like, okay, 1103 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:16,600 Speaker 2: So he's clearly a step up beyond, kind of like 1104 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,800 Speaker 2: the ten to fifteen maybe even like seven to fifteen 1105 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,440 Speaker 2: kind of guy. But then loses to Yond, then faces 1106 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,200 Speaker 2: Shudo and then wins that one technically but under a 1107 00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,200 Speaker 2: cloud of scrutiny. This would be by or, I should 1108 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:32,319 Speaker 2: say controversy. This would be by far his biggest win. 1109 00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,440 Speaker 2: It would be the most high profile win I would argue, 1110 00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:39,239 Speaker 2: even independent necessarily of the opponent himself. It would be 1111 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:43,440 Speaker 2: the ultimate ultimate moment of transcendence that just he just 1112 00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,239 Speaker 2: hasn't really had anything kind of close to this. And 1113 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,120 Speaker 2: I think the fact that his best win is probably 1114 00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,840 Speaker 2: again the Marlon Vera win that was twenty twenty. You 1115 00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,600 Speaker 2: know what I mean. He's had other wins sense and obviously, 1116 00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,279 Speaker 2: but that was like the high water market terms of 1117 00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,680 Speaker 2: a name or you know, a level of competition, like 1118 00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,680 Speaker 2: the fact that we're here. Yeah, yeah, well he's beaten 1119 00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,000 Speaker 2: better names obviously, but the suhun't win, Like what does 1120 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:05,839 Speaker 2: that really mean? I think part of the reason why 1121 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:07,600 Speaker 2: we're just kind of sleeping on him is just because, 1122 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,040 Speaker 2: as you indicate, the styles don't necessarily favor it, but 1123 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,239 Speaker 2: more to the point, like he's never really gotten close 1124 00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,920 Speaker 2: to beating the guy this thoroughly or to be this 1125 00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:17,840 Speaker 2: thor out to be the guy that's good, and I 1126 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,200 Speaker 2: think that that gap has made it a little hard 1127 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:24,000 Speaker 2: for people to appreciate. Same question, though, go ahead. 1128 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,279 Speaker 3: I want to say something on this because, like, as 1129 00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:27,960 Speaker 3: you're going through it, I wanted to make sure I 1130 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,200 Speaker 3: was right about this, and I looked at it. There's 1131 00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,359 Speaker 3: a little bit of Michael bisping here, and bear with 1132 00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,720 Speaker 3: me as as I try and lay in this plane. 1133 00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:41,520 Speaker 3: The opportunities he's had, they have not been hey, too much, 1134 00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,640 Speaker 3: too soon. It has not been like, oh here's Corey Sandagan, 1135 00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,960 Speaker 3: We're giving you a chance. It's Cory Sandy who's coming 1136 00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,600 Speaker 3: off back to back losses, and he couldn't get over 1137 00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,319 Speaker 3: like he that's the best duty fought and it was 1138 00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,680 Speaker 3: a very it was not a step up in like 1139 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,160 Speaker 3: a this might be a bridge too far. I was like, 1140 00:55:58,200 --> 00:55:59,920 Speaker 3: this is a very winnable fight, and he did not 1141 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,719 Speaker 3: win that fight at all. Same thing, Piertrion had three 1142 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:04,960 Speaker 3: losses in a row when he fought song like, this 1143 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:09,319 Speaker 3: was a real opportunity to hey, maybe you can win 1144 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,520 Speaker 3: this this it's not too much an expectation. He lost. 1145 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,920 Speaker 3: Same thing happened for most of bis Bing's career. When 1146 00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:18,040 Speaker 3: he finally fought good dudes, they beat him, and so 1147 00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,600 Speaker 3: he's sort of in that. But the good news is 1148 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,600 Speaker 3: he's still twenty eight, Like he's still develop so like 1149 00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,520 Speaker 3: he's he's got room here. I think this might be 1150 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:27,160 Speaker 3: a tough fight. 1151 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,480 Speaker 2: For him, though I do think it's gonna be a 1152 00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:33,120 Speaker 2: tough fight. Form Okay, same kind of question I know 1153 00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,680 Speaker 2: by For example, I know Song You Dong has been 1154 00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,279 Speaker 2: working with Justin Flores, who also is the judo coach 1155 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,080 Speaker 2: previously of ron A Rausi but currently Patty Pimblet. And 1156 00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,640 Speaker 2: I've seen Song You Doong working with him quite extensively 1157 00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,760 Speaker 2: if he has to stand at range with Sean O'Malley 1158 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,520 Speaker 2: in a three round fight. I just don't like his chances. 1159 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,480 Speaker 2: Is it takedown or bust for Song? You do on? 1160 00:56:55,040 --> 00:57:00,400 Speaker 3: Uh, it's not takedown or bust, but he needs needs 1161 00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,160 Speaker 3: to mix them like they need to be part of 1162 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,799 Speaker 3: a holistic game plan to attack Shawn Amalley because I 1163 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,759 Speaker 3: mean the range is a huge issue. Shawnamalley is a 1164 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,239 Speaker 3: little bit taller I don't know how much, and thin 1165 00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:15,040 Speaker 3: a couple of inches. Uh, pretty significant reach advantage and 1166 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,520 Speaker 3: just fights long much more like, much more long than 1167 00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:22,240 Speaker 3: Songy Dong does. Song's best weapon. You know, they are 1168 00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,640 Speaker 3: his his mits and so like he doesn't even have 1169 00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:25,840 Speaker 3: like a super. 1170 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,120 Speaker 4: Sorry, guys, I got to interrupt with breaking news. Cameron 1171 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,360 Speaker 4: Smotherman just weighs in one hundred and thirty five and 1172 00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,040 Speaker 4: a half, immediately walks off the scale. You know you're 1173 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,440 Speaker 4: supposed to stand there for five seconds in flex, immediately 1174 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,520 Speaker 4: walks off the scale, face plants on the fucking stage. 1175 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,920 Speaker 4: They're helping him now that fight's gonna get canceled. 1176 00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:43,800 Speaker 2: So can you get video of this? 1177 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:45,040 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1178 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:50,480 Speaker 2: Fuck dude, I hope he's okay, yeah, I'm looking up 1179 00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:54,760 Speaker 2: my notes here. Cameron was set to face uh, let's 1180 00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,800 Speaker 2: see here, Ricky. Yes, the second fight on the card. 1181 00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:00,840 Speaker 2: I hope he's okay. 1182 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,680 Speaker 3: We're trying to see if there's of it up yet. 1183 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,360 Speaker 3: But nobody's got it dropped yet. Man, that is wild. 1184 00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:08,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and obviously the commissions. 1185 00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:09,680 Speaker 3: Has that ever happened. 1186 00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,280 Speaker 2: I've definitely seen them. 1187 00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:17,000 Speaker 3: I've seen fighters get like and get help. I've never 1188 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:18,320 Speaker 3: seen somebody face playing. 1189 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,280 Speaker 2: I've seen them vomit. I've seen them vomit too. I 1190 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,520 Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know if I've seen face planting 1191 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,880 Speaker 2: like that. That is. I guess we'll see. 1192 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,280 Speaker 3: I hope he's all right because that sucks. 1193 00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:30,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1194 00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:31,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, fight's got to be off. 1195 00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:34,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's going to be a so again, I 1196 00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,120 Speaker 2: guess the prelims are going to start at five point 1197 00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:37,800 Speaker 2: thirty as opposed to five at this point. 1198 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,120 Speaker 3: So it seems like, well. 1199 00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:41,760 Speaker 2: We get a video of this, we'll let you guys 1200 00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,080 Speaker 2: see it here. Just to wrap up on this particular conversation, 1201 00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,760 Speaker 2: is there a world where Sean O'Malley wins and then 1202 00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:52,760 Speaker 2: people are like, Okay, I know he got the win, 1203 00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,120 Speaker 2: but I don't want to see him fight yond Is 1204 00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,440 Speaker 2: there a way in which he could fuck this up 1205 00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:58,640 Speaker 2: even by getting the dub. 1206 00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,360 Speaker 3: Yes, I think it's pretty small because the idea of 1207 00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,040 Speaker 3: him fighting peodri On is just not really tethered to 1208 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,040 Speaker 3: reality or merit. It's tethered to they had a fight 1209 00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:13,600 Speaker 3: and people like Sean, and that's the most important part 1210 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,240 Speaker 3: of all of this. But like, I think Song and 1211 00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,880 Speaker 3: Dong is going to be a tough fight, not in 1212 00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,800 Speaker 3: the I think this, This to me lines up for 1213 00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:27,920 Speaker 3: like a fight where Sean Omalley wins comprehensively and not dominantly, right, 1214 00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:31,120 Speaker 3: Like he's not stylin on Sean or on Song. He's 1215 00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:35,040 Speaker 3: just winning like a professional fight winning, And so people 1216 00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:38,280 Speaker 3: won't be super juiced about it. But in a couple 1217 00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,320 Speaker 3: of months that won't matter because they will be juiced 1218 00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:45,640 Speaker 3: about Sean O'Malley fighting Pyotr Ryan again. And that just 1219 00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,800 Speaker 3: feels like there's a inertia there to it. So I 1220 00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,760 Speaker 3: suspect that that's how this will look. But if he really, 1221 00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,960 Speaker 3: like if Song and Dong exceeds my expectations and they 1222 00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,560 Speaker 3: go nip tuck and it is a he just edges 1223 00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:01,160 Speaker 3: it out. Congratulations Bob, you get the title fight you 1224 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:02,360 Speaker 3: deserve against pyotor Yan. 1225 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,600 Speaker 2: With that in mind, let's remind the viewers here and 1226 01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,600 Speaker 2: the listeners as well that the NFL playoffs will they 1227 01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,240 Speaker 2: have arrived. It's win or go home. And with Pick 1228 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,760 Speaker 2: six DraftKings newest Fantasy pick them game, every snap is 1229 01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 2: a chance at bigger payouts. 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You have to figure 1239 01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,080 Speaker 2: that part out and the best part. DraftKings Pick six 1240 01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,760 Speaker 2: is available in Texas and Georgia and California and dozens 1241 01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,600 Speaker 2: of other states nationwide. Now, Jet, I'm looking at the 1242 01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,720 Speaker 2: NFL Pick six here by Draft Kings. I don't know 1243 01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:57,120 Speaker 2: if you have a dog in the fight. Are there 1244 01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:00,120 Speaker 2: any like, Oh, I guess there must be a Stafford guy. 1245 01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,480 Speaker 3: Right, I mean, yeah, Stafford and I went to UGA 1246 01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,960 Speaker 3: at the exact same time, right like he we started 1247 01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,720 Speaker 3: UJA in the same time. You seem around campus. 1248 01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:10,280 Speaker 2: Wow. 1249 01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,680 Speaker 3: And I like him a lot more diverged. Huh. Yeah. 1250 01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,120 Speaker 3: I it's hard to say which of us is doing 1251 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:20,080 Speaker 3: better right now. It's really a toss up. As far 1252 01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:23,920 Speaker 3: as Zaches, I did not. I liked him fine, but 1253 01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:28,240 Speaker 3: he was a little douchey in college because we all were. 1254 01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,560 Speaker 3: We were eighteen and stupid, and he was eight and 1255 01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,120 Speaker 3: you know, projected to be the number one pick since 1256 01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:36,200 Speaker 3: he was five years old or whatever. What has grown 1257 01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:40,080 Speaker 3: up he went? I think he was a Texas kid somewhere, 1258 01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:43,640 Speaker 3: all right. I believe Texas, maybe Southern cal I'm pretty 1259 01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:44,280 Speaker 3: sure Texas. 1260 01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:46,640 Speaker 2: All right. So the Los Angeles Rams are playing the 1261 01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,120 Speaker 2: Seattle Seahawks. That'll be Sunday at six thirty PM. 1262 01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:50,640 Speaker 3: Game bangs two. 1263 01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,200 Speaker 2: Hundred and fifty four and a half passing yards. You're 1264 01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:58,040 Speaker 2: taking more or less on fellow alumnus Matt Stafford. 1265 01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:01,919 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take more because I think they're even though, 1266 01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,720 Speaker 3: like they've played obviously in the same division, they played twice. 1267 01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,840 Speaker 3: In the first game, the Rams won, but Stafford threw 1268 01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,960 Speaker 3: like one hundred yards is something insane. And the second 1269 01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,880 Speaker 3: game they went to overtime and it was a shootout 1270 01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,840 Speaker 3: and Stafford had like five hundred yards. So I'm gonna 1271 01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:21,120 Speaker 3: take the over here because he's got DeVante Adams and Puca, 1272 01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:25,000 Speaker 3: and I think they're gonna be forced to be more aggressive. 1273 01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:26,680 Speaker 3: So give me the over. 1274 01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,840 Speaker 2: Okay, So Drake may playing a quarterback, but he's got 1275 01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,480 Speaker 2: That's not what I'm curious about him. Curious about Stefan Diggs. 1276 01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:34,600 Speaker 2: Of course. This is New England at Denver Sunday at 1277 01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,600 Speaker 2: three pm, Truck Bendenhalls game. They've got him at forty 1278 01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:41,800 Speaker 2: six and a half yards. You're taking more or less less. 1279 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,520 Speaker 3: Uh, He's gonna give the Patrick Surtain shadow, I assume, 1280 01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:46,760 Speaker 3: because I don't think they're gonna put certain on booty. 1281 01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:50,760 Speaker 3: So like Patrick Surtan's gonna be in his hip pocket 1282 01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,480 Speaker 3: and I'm gonna guess under on that. 1283 01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,360 Speaker 2: We shall see. I appreciate your perspective. All right, here's 1284 01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,920 Speaker 2: how it's gonna go, folks, new customers. This is your 1285 01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,800 Speaker 2: playoff bonus. You're gonna get fifty dollars in Pick six 1286 01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,880 Speaker 2: credits when you make your first Pick six entry for 1287 01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,760 Speaker 2: just five dollars. 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Let's 1300 01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,800 Speaker 2: take a look here, dude, I. 1301 01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:56,440 Speaker 3: Just saw this. 1302 01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:57,640 Speaker 5: Dude. 1303 01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:02,200 Speaker 3: It's like a full on flare flop, like he's in 1304 01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:03,640 Speaker 3: my head when like. 1305 01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:07,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was really bad and by the way, the 1306 01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,280 Speaker 4: whole way and has been like delayed because of it. 1307 01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,200 Speaker 4: They were just helping him on stage. The next fighter 1308 01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:13,640 Speaker 4: is just swinging now and Alex Perez miiss wait too worth, 1309 01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,640 Speaker 4: Oh great dude. 1310 01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,480 Speaker 3: Long Island. When you said he felt like in my 1311 01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:20,520 Speaker 3: head it just did like I don't know what I 1312 01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:24,880 Speaker 3: was visualizing, but the fact that even leaving the scale, 1313 01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:29,520 Speaker 3: he very obviously is just nobody's home, and it's just like, 1314 01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:32,640 Speaker 3: how did nobody see this coming and get to him? 1315 01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:33,360 Speaker 3: Like damn that? 1316 01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,040 Speaker 4: In the moment I thought it was, I was like, 1317 01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,840 Speaker 4: whoa is he pissed off about something? He just left it. 1318 01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:41,360 Speaker 2: Because he kind of walks forcefully forward, but it's because 1319 01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:42,400 Speaker 2: he can't keep his balance. 1320 01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:46,200 Speaker 3: He's walking forward because that's gravity taking his legs to the. 1321 01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:49,800 Speaker 2: One more time. I want to walk the audio listeners 1322 01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:53,000 Speaker 2: one more time. He walks off with it. He walks 1323 01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:56,760 Speaker 2: off and he's like stomping and he literally lands chest 1324 01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:59,840 Speaker 2: and chin first, not on his hands, which is always 1325 01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:02,440 Speaker 2: a bad fucking sign if they don't brace themselves with 1326 01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:05,000 Speaker 2: their hands. I uh, that was not great. 1327 01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:08,240 Speaker 3: Not this is like a train wreck. 1328 01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:08,520 Speaker 1: Man. 1329 01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:12,919 Speaker 3: He gets his hands up just at the very end, 1330 01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:16,520 Speaker 3: So maybe it didn't like he didn't take it on 1331 01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:17,160 Speaker 3: the face. 1332 01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,280 Speaker 2: I know he did. He injured his face. 1333 01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:23,480 Speaker 4: At all like he looked okay. They were rehydrating him. 1334 01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:25,520 Speaker 4: Everyone seemed really concerned. There were a bunch of people 1335 01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:27,360 Speaker 4: around him. They walked him off stage, and then he 1336 01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,520 Speaker 4: was just sitting nearby. He had like Mark Ratner and 1337 01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:31,960 Speaker 4: everyone around him. But I don't really know what's going on. 1338 01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:36,040 Speaker 3: Wow, way cutting what a wonderful part of this sport. 1339 01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:40,560 Speaker 2: I hope he's okay. It's unfortunate that that's the place 1340 01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:44,240 Speaker 2: that we're in. Who else we have here? Someone else 1341 01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:46,640 Speaker 2: just made way to two of four? Oh, Modesta Sbukowskis 1342 01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:52,160 Speaker 2: made it a two of four. Man, that video is sketchy. Here, 1343 01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,960 Speaker 2: I'll have a wider angle on the camera smother in one. Oh, 1344 01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:56,400 Speaker 2: he does get his you're right. 1345 01:05:56,360 --> 01:06:00,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, he gets right at the very end. So it's 1346 01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,560 Speaker 3: not as bad. But man, that is that's one of 1347 01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:05,280 Speaker 3: the scarier things I've ever seen a way. 1348 01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,880 Speaker 2: In that is. I don't see that very often. 1349 01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,360 Speaker 3: No, the positive is he won't be fighting and taking 1350 01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:12,320 Speaker 3: head trauma tomorrow. 1351 01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:17,480 Speaker 2: Okay, well yeah, but the other the downside is not 1352 01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:18,400 Speaker 2: gonna make any fucking money. 1353 01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:19,320 Speaker 3: He's not gonna make any money. 1354 01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:21,000 Speaker 2: That's also it's like you got to go through all 1355 01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:24,880 Speaker 2: of that and then there's no financial return. It's unfortunate. 1356 01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:26,880 Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about the rest of this card 1357 01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:28,600 Speaker 2: if we can the parts that we don't have a 1358 01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,200 Speaker 2: way in situation yet. For any of these, we'll give 1359 01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:34,760 Speaker 2: it to you as we get it. Heavyweights, this is 1360 01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:36,720 Speaker 2: a fun little one. If I do say so myself, 1361 01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,120 Speaker 2: I kind of like this fight. I don't know exactly 1362 01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,360 Speaker 2: what it means, but hopefully Jed can tell us Waldo 1363 01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:45,080 Speaker 2: Cortez a Costa who had a phenomenal truly, I mean 1364 01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:48,840 Speaker 2: this a phenomenal, a weird but phenomenal twenty twenty five 1365 01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:53,720 Speaker 2: against the forty year old, but still quite relevant Derek Lewis. 1366 01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:57,800 Speaker 2: This is obviously them trying to get this heavyweight division 1367 01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:02,240 Speaker 2: putting permutations together. Jed that the fans would like to 1368 01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,880 Speaker 2: see Waldell Court has a coasta, surprisingly athletic, even though 1369 01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:07,640 Speaker 2: he's got a little bit of a belly. Derek Lewis, 1370 01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,560 Speaker 2: we know he's got his limits, but we certainly know 1371 01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,120 Speaker 2: he's got his strength and he's got a ton of 1372 01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:15,120 Speaker 2: veteran savvy. How much do you think this fight is 1373 01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:18,400 Speaker 2: important for the heavyweight division and what do you actually 1374 01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:20,920 Speaker 2: like most about this contest? 1375 01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:28,360 Speaker 3: It is shockingly important for the heavyweight division, which is wild. Like, 1376 01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:30,440 Speaker 3: if you had told me that this was going to 1377 01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:37,000 Speaker 3: be not just significant, but potentially a title conversation fight, 1378 01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:39,360 Speaker 3: if you told me this last year, if you like 1379 01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,280 Speaker 3: in January year ago, it'd have been like, what what 1380 01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:45,680 Speaker 3: are you talking about? What are you smoking? You're on 1381 01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:49,440 Speaker 3: that justin Gaechee oil rig, whatever the shit that was. 1382 01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:53,400 Speaker 3: And yet it's true because WCA had a great twenty 1383 01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,439 Speaker 3: twenty five four and one. Nobody even can like cares 1384 01:07:56,480 --> 01:08:00,000 Speaker 3: about the loss because he got momentum going Derek Lewis. 1385 01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:03,880 Speaker 3: Derek Lewis quietly on a two fight winning streak. Much 1386 01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:05,760 Speaker 3: has been made of the fact that Derek Lewis is 1387 01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:09,959 Speaker 3: Donald Trump's favorite fighter. And I think that if Derek 1388 01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:12,520 Speaker 3: Lewis gets to w they would very much like Derek 1389 01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:15,080 Speaker 3: Lewis to be fighting at the White House card. And 1390 01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,719 Speaker 3: who that's against. Maybe it's for an interim belt because 1391 01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:20,800 Speaker 3: we don't know what's up with Tom Aspall, And that's 1392 01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:22,960 Speaker 3: sort of the key to all of this is the 1393 01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:27,200 Speaker 3: Tom Aspinall question. Because he has apparently already had eye surgery, 1394 01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:30,000 Speaker 3: he may have more eye surgery to come. It is 1395 01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:33,280 Speaker 3: there's no timetable on his return at this point in time, 1396 01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:35,840 Speaker 3: and I don't think the UFC will strip him or 1397 01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:39,360 Speaker 3: even like pressure him to drop the belt like they've 1398 01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,360 Speaker 3: done with some other champions, just because the optics of 1399 01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:45,880 Speaker 3: that are super bad, given they let John pretend to 1400 01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:48,400 Speaker 3: be the champion for three years, whatever the hell that was. 1401 01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:52,320 Speaker 3: But an interim title fight with Cyril Gone is in 1402 01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:56,320 Speaker 3: play because maybe it's Cyril Gon versus ox Preyra. But 1403 01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:59,240 Speaker 3: if it's not, the winner of this fight's probably like 1404 01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:01,519 Speaker 3: right in the mix. Thanks for that. So this is 1405 01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:05,479 Speaker 3: like a shockingly relevant fight for the heavyweight title picture, 1406 01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:06,960 Speaker 3: which I wild. 1407 01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:10,800 Speaker 2: I'm looking as you mentioned at the rankings, as you indicated, 1408 01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:14,160 Speaker 2: kortes a Costa sitting at five, and it's the spot 1409 01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:16,800 Speaker 2: he has absolutely earned. Lewis at eight. But how far, 1410 01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,040 Speaker 2: as you indicated, is Trump's favorite fighter or one of 1411 01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:21,400 Speaker 2: them anyway, how far away could he be from a 1412 01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:24,200 Speaker 2: title shot or at a bare minimum jet a placement 1413 01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:25,960 Speaker 2: on the White House card? Right you really, I would 1414 01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:27,800 Speaker 2: obviously have to consider something like that. And then you 1415 01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,439 Speaker 2: look at who's ahead of a Costa, it's Blades, Pavlovich, 1416 01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:33,160 Speaker 2: Volkov and Gone, And there is some traffic there in 1417 01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:35,040 Speaker 2: terms of how he can ascend. But for a guy 1418 01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:38,120 Speaker 2: who had a phenomenal twenty twenty five and here he 1419 01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:40,599 Speaker 2: is picking right back up or twenty twenty five left 1420 01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:43,080 Speaker 2: off to pick up in twenty six, I mean, the 1421 01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:45,479 Speaker 2: momentum is clearly on his side. You know, I saw 1422 01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,440 Speaker 2: someone make a point. Maybe it was Ben Folks, Jed I, 1423 01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,040 Speaker 2: maybe with somebody else, I can't remember, but the point 1424 01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:52,760 Speaker 2: that they had made was it is very, very hard 1425 01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,560 Speaker 2: to stand out in the modern UFC. When they've got shows, 1426 01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:59,200 Speaker 2: you know, forty three week ends a year, right, and 1427 01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:00,760 Speaker 2: to say nothing of you know, all the stuff that's 1428 01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:04,000 Speaker 2: other happening, a Contender series or whatever. It could be 1429 01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:06,679 Speaker 2: hard to stand out. So one way to stand out 1430 01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:08,360 Speaker 2: is just to take a bunch of fights if you can, 1431 01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:10,599 Speaker 2: and just stay as busy as possible, and you might 1432 01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:12,360 Speaker 2: win some, you might lose some. But if you have 1433 01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:14,680 Speaker 2: like four three, certainly, but if you have four or 1434 01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:17,120 Speaker 2: more fights in a calendar year in five in certain cases, 1435 01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:20,479 Speaker 2: that is actually a way you can become memorable. That's 1436 01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:24,680 Speaker 2: exactly what Cotas of course to Acosta did. That's exactly 1437 01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:28,040 Speaker 2: the plan that he put into place, and now it 1438 01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:32,240 Speaker 2: has worked out swimmingly for him along the way. I 1439 01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:34,080 Speaker 2: actually feel like, not only is this one of the 1440 01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:36,640 Speaker 2: biggest opportunities for him in terms of name value, but 1441 01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:39,320 Speaker 2: it's proof of concept of what he kept trying, which 1442 01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:42,320 Speaker 2: was I will take any fight, any place, just to 1443 01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:45,160 Speaker 2: stay busy. And now the fans have a much clearer 1444 01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:46,320 Speaker 2: understanding of who he is. 1445 01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:50,200 Speaker 3: If Ben folks said that I'm I'm gonna fight him, 1446 01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:52,960 Speaker 3: because I've been saying that for like five years. Okay, 1447 01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:56,920 Speaker 3: the the US, he can't build stars in general. We 1448 01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:58,519 Speaker 3: talk about this all the time. We don't have to 1449 01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:03,080 Speaker 3: harp on it, like the single best way to build 1450 01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:06,599 Speaker 3: stardom in this sport is to fight a lot. Because 1451 01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,519 Speaker 3: look at what has happened to Shavkar Rokmanov. They forget 1452 01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:14,639 Speaker 3: that that motherfucker exists this for the last four years 1453 01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:18,120 Speaker 3: he was the the guy. He has come, he will 1454 01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:22,080 Speaker 3: reign at welterweight four years to come. And he sat 1455 01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:26,360 Speaker 3: out for a year now a year, and they forgot 1456 01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:28,639 Speaker 3: his ass after like six months. They're like, I don't 1457 01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:32,120 Speaker 3: give a shit about him, because if this is a 1458 01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:35,800 Speaker 3: sport with the memory of a like a dumb goldfish, 1459 01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:40,160 Speaker 3: not just a goldfish, a dumb goldfish. And the only 1460 01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,760 Speaker 3: way to break through that is to, you know, be 1461 01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,200 Speaker 3: Justin Gechee and the most exciting fighter of all time 1462 01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:50,120 Speaker 3: be Anderson Silva and win for ten straight years, which 1463 01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:53,280 Speaker 3: is really hard to do. Or fight a whole lot. 1464 01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:57,519 Speaker 3: Think of the like not these are not crossover breakthrough stars, 1465 01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:00,559 Speaker 3: but think of that tier of fighter who has done it. 1466 01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:06,520 Speaker 3: Donald Crony, super popular, Kevin Holland super popular. Waldo Corteza. 1467 01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:10,679 Speaker 3: Costa is the proof of this, because that dude one 1468 01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:14,040 Speaker 3: year ago today had just come off the most boring 1469 01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:17,479 Speaker 3: fight of all time against Rebellus to Spain, and nobody 1470 01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:20,200 Speaker 3: cared about him. And then he fought five times and 1471 01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:22,240 Speaker 3: he wore an eye patch and he got some KOs, 1472 01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:25,160 Speaker 3: and people like, hell yeah, he's on my TV every 1473 01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:28,240 Speaker 3: other weekend. It is hard not to know who he is. 1474 01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:30,960 Speaker 3: That's what you gotta do. I think more fighters are 1475 01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:33,479 Speaker 3: starting to open up to it, but that's it. Like, 1476 01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:35,920 Speaker 3: there are very few ways to break through and the 1477 01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,920 Speaker 3: most consistent. The easiest one to do is fight a 1478 01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:39,360 Speaker 3: whole lot. 1479 01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:42,880 Speaker 2: Is this matchup being made, Yes, of course it's a 1480 01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:46,760 Speaker 2: great pairing in terms of knockout potential. Obviously, is it 1481 01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:50,719 Speaker 2: also being made because their matchmakers are looking at Lewis 1482 01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:52,639 Speaker 2: at forty years of age and being like, he's definitely 1483 01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:56,599 Speaker 2: not done. But it's a little Neil Magne ish where 1484 01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:58,720 Speaker 2: this is just going to tell us one way or 1485 01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:01,640 Speaker 2: the other what we have in Corteza Costa. 1486 01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:04,519 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, repeat that you dropped out from my audio 1487 01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:04,880 Speaker 3: for a minute. 1488 01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:07,559 Speaker 2: No worries. So the point the question is clearly they 1489 01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:09,679 Speaker 2: are putting these two guys together because it's a fun 1490 01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:12,320 Speaker 2: fight and it's got a good like they're putting this 1491 01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:15,080 Speaker 2: on the main card of the first show on Paramount, 1492 01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:19,160 Speaker 2: like obviously knockout potential is going to be a premium 1493 01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,679 Speaker 2: in terms of the matchmaking, of course, But is part 1494 01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:23,639 Speaker 2: of it also that they're kind of looking at Lewis 1495 01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:25,960 Speaker 2: even though he's still coming off two wins in a row, 1496 01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:29,439 Speaker 2: as something like a Neil Magni type where it's like, 1497 01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:31,679 Speaker 2: if we've got something with Cortze Costa, if he actually 1498 01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:34,080 Speaker 2: can do something, this fight is going to tell us 1499 01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:34,960 Speaker 2: about what that is. 1500 01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:39,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe not about like what he can do, but 1501 01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:42,360 Speaker 3: what what sort of how over he can get? Because like, 1502 01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:45,160 Speaker 3: I think we're past the point where Derek Lewis is 1503 01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:49,080 Speaker 3: a great gauge of talent in the heavyweight division. He 1504 01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:52,040 Speaker 3: is about to be forty two years old. He is 1505 01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:55,599 Speaker 3: a good gatekeeper to the top ten, but like Cortez 1506 01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:58,559 Speaker 3: Coost is already in the top ten. So I think 1507 01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:00,720 Speaker 3: this is more like a This is just a win 1508 01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:04,360 Speaker 3: win for them, right, because Derek Lewis is tremendously popular, 1509 01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:07,320 Speaker 3: and if he goes and gets a knockout over the 1510 01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:09,640 Speaker 3: like he is the hot thing. Walder Cotes Costa is 1511 01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:13,639 Speaker 3: the thing happening at heavyweight, him and Walter Walker, right, 1512 01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:17,080 Speaker 3: And so if Derek Lewis knocks out Walder Cotza Costa, shit, 1513 01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:19,679 Speaker 3: he's on three fight winning streak. They can absolutely throw 1514 01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:22,839 Speaker 3: his ass into an interim title fight, which is good business. 1515 01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:27,640 Speaker 3: And if he doesn't, if Waldock Cortes Costa knocks him out, 1516 01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:31,559 Speaker 3: you know, he he elevates. He he became popular, but 1517 01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:35,000 Speaker 3: not broadly popular a win over Derek Lewis. That's the 1518 01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,920 Speaker 3: sort of jumping pad, launching pad moment to get you 1519 01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:40,960 Speaker 3: to like a more broader fan base and so people 1520 01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:44,320 Speaker 3: know you and to be like a real heavyweight player 1521 01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:45,760 Speaker 3: for the casual fan. 1522 01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:48,000 Speaker 2: I think you're right this is one of the few 1523 01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:49,679 Speaker 2: fights on the card where I'm like, I'm not saying 1524 01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:52,560 Speaker 2: the UFC doesn't care who wins. They might have some preferences, 1525 01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:55,160 Speaker 2: particularly again for that White House card and Derek, but 1526 01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:58,599 Speaker 2: they'll be happy either way. If Derek gets a knockout, great, 1527 01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:00,439 Speaker 2: there's a lot you can do with that. If Corteza 1528 01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:03,120 Speaker 2: Costa gets a knockout, great, there's a lot you can 1529 01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:05,160 Speaker 2: do with that. And this is the case where you know, 1530 01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:07,960 Speaker 2: this isn't co promotion between two different rivals, and so 1531 01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:10,559 Speaker 2: the house wins every time no matter what. But like, 1532 01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:12,439 Speaker 2: it's not the same as it is in the main event, 1533 01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:14,880 Speaker 2: where they clearly would much rather have one guy win 1534 01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:17,320 Speaker 2: than the other. I think this one they'll just playing 1535 01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:20,559 Speaker 2: with house money in either direction. Uh do you fancy 1536 01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:21,599 Speaker 2: your prediction for this one? 1537 01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:27,360 Speaker 3: Jet I got well coast winning speed, right. I mean, 1538 01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:30,200 Speaker 3: he's he's just a more technical dude. He's faster, he's 1539 01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:33,160 Speaker 3: got better defense. I think Derek's a little bit washed Derek. 1540 01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,280 Speaker 3: I would be interested if Derek does maybe something different, 1541 01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:39,680 Speaker 3: if he goes for some takedowns, because Corteza Coasta has 1542 01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:42,040 Speaker 3: been pretty good at keeping it up. Derek Lewis is 1543 01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:44,400 Speaker 3: a demon if he's on top of you, which like 1544 01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:47,800 Speaker 3: he rarely ever is. And the real difference maker for 1545 01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,519 Speaker 3: me is Cortesa. Coasta's chin appears to be excellent. He 1546 01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:53,439 Speaker 3: has never really even been like hurt in the UFS. 1547 01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:55,360 Speaker 3: He's never been dropped, never been knocked out in MMA, 1548 01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:58,640 Speaker 3: got knocked down in boxing some, but in MMA, his 1549 01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:03,439 Speaker 3: chin has been very vulnerable. And Derek Lewis is Derek Lewis. 1550 01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:05,880 Speaker 3: He puts the lunch box Sonia, you can go down. 1551 01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:09,680 Speaker 3: But I have some level of confidence that if this 1552 01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:13,519 Speaker 3: dude can stand and lose to circuit Pelovitch right but 1553 01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:17,160 Speaker 3: not like be totally afraid of dying against him, that 1554 01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:19,120 Speaker 3: he can do the same against Derek Lewis and just 1555 01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:23,960 Speaker 3: be faster, and you know, Derek Lewis maybe gets jawd 1556 01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:25,320 Speaker 3: and goes out. 1557 01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:29,400 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm getting breaking news here from Long Island. What 1558 01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:32,400 Speaker 2: can you tell us, Jesus age Christ. 1559 01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:36,360 Speaker 4: Figure it out. Just missed weight two and a half pounds, 1560 01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:38,439 Speaker 4: in addition to Alex Perez also missing weight two and 1561 01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:41,479 Speaker 4: a half pounds, in addition to Cameron Smotherman face planning 1562 01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:44,439 Speaker 4: after making weight, So there's a potential three bouts that 1563 01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:47,479 Speaker 4: could get canceled. Maybe we just got two fines and 1564 01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:49,160 Speaker 4: maybe just the smotherman cancelation. 1565 01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:53,759 Speaker 3: But can no chance the figure bout gets canceled, right. 1566 01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:55,880 Speaker 2: I don't think they'll cancel it. But I did not 1567 01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:58,200 Speaker 2: have high hopes for him in this contest anyway. 1568 01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:00,640 Speaker 3: And this, I think this is I think this is 1569 01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:01,800 Speaker 3: a great move on his part. 1570 01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:02,160 Speaker 4: Front. 1571 01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:06,000 Speaker 3: Dude, you know you're gonna lose. Take it. You didn't 1572 01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:09,840 Speaker 3: take a fine and try it a little bit a jet. 1573 01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:12,599 Speaker 4: It didn't look like an advantage an advantage weight miss. 1574 01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:14,960 Speaker 4: And it's like I took everything out of my body 1575 01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:16,439 Speaker 4: and still can't cut anymore yet. 1576 01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:17,040 Speaker 2: So I guess. 1577 01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:19,320 Speaker 3: I guess the media day when he was saying I 1578 01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,960 Speaker 3: was never actually a flyweight, I was just killing myself 1579 01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,280 Speaker 3: to make it I've always been abandon weight. That was true. 1580 01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:30,880 Speaker 2: Uh what a mess? All right for me? I'll go 1581 01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,799 Speaker 2: Cortes a Coasta. By the way, I think the speed 1582 01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:38,880 Speaker 2: a little more technical. Louis Lewis tends to feast more 1583 01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:42,439 Speaker 2: on not always, not always, but he tends to feast 1584 01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:47,000 Speaker 2: more on guys who are Cortesa coast is a little 1585 01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:50,280 Speaker 2: bit of a donk, but not really, whereas Lewis kind 1586 01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:52,360 Speaker 2: of feats more on guys who are just really out 1587 01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:54,160 Speaker 2: of their element. And I don't think I don't think 1588 01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:57,559 Speaker 2: Cortes Coast is that guy. All right. It brings us 1589 01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:00,280 Speaker 2: now to the women's fight on this main card and 1590 01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:02,680 Speaker 2: the opener of the card. I believe itself, right, my 1591 01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:03,599 Speaker 2: math is all Can we. 1592 01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:06,040 Speaker 3: Just pause for one moment to acknowledge that this is 1593 01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:11,040 Speaker 3: a ship show of a start for the USC. It's incredible. 1594 01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:15,360 Speaker 3: One dude almost dies, two guys sweat bangers. 1595 01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:18,760 Speaker 4: Also, lt. John Silva Arnold Allen is the first fight. 1596 01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:21,200 Speaker 2: So yeah, I just I just said it under my breath. Yeah, yeah, 1597 01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:23,800 Speaker 2: fair enough. All right, let's talk about the women's fight 1598 01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:27,000 Speaker 2: on this card. Uh, it was supposed to be Alexa Grosso. 1599 01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:30,160 Speaker 2: She falls out and so in steps in Natalia Silva 1600 01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:33,640 Speaker 2: and she takes on Rose Nama Unis. Now, before I 1601 01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:36,920 Speaker 2: even ask you one question about this jet, I want 1602 01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:40,440 Speaker 2: to play a clip of hers about what she understands 1603 01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:43,040 Speaker 2: as her title shot potential in the event of a win. 1604 01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:44,439 Speaker 2: Let's roll it roast. 1605 01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:46,559 Speaker 4: Did I see you say that you are told if 1606 01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:48,519 Speaker 4: you win this fight, you will get a title shot. 1607 01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:51,360 Speaker 8: Yeah, even though I try and you know, wasn't gonna 1608 01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:53,719 Speaker 8: worry about that. And I'm still not too worried about 1609 01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:57,639 Speaker 8: you know, definitely like looking past this or anything, because 1610 01:18:58,080 --> 01:18:59,880 Speaker 8: you know, we got to stay one step ahead of 1611 01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:02,839 Speaker 8: you know, one step at a time. But it's definitely 1612 01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:04,960 Speaker 8: more motivating. It is more and I don't need any 1613 01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:07,439 Speaker 8: more motivation. I just want to win. And I'm also 1614 01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:11,240 Speaker 8: very excited to face somebody like Natalia, who's very exciting 1615 01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:14,519 Speaker 8: and she has I know she's got She's definitely got 1616 01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:19,320 Speaker 8: some very good talent. So it's it's very very exciting. 1617 01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:22,559 Speaker 2: She's three and three in her last six, she has 1618 01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:25,320 Speaker 2: won two of her last three. To the extent that 1619 01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:27,720 Speaker 2: this is relevant to you, are Miranda Maverick being the 1620 01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:32,200 Speaker 2: last of those in June twenty twenty four. Baby, that's right, Oh, 1621 01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:35,280 Speaker 2: that's right, that's right. She is thirty three years of age. 1622 01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:37,920 Speaker 2: Do you agree with the UFC giving her a title 1623 01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:39,280 Speaker 2: shot in the event of a win? 1624 01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:43,040 Speaker 3: Undred percent? This is very obvious Natalia Silva should be 1625 01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:46,000 Speaker 3: fighting for well, like, she's done everything that needs to 1626 01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:49,160 Speaker 3: be done to do it. She's she stepped in to 1627 01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:53,200 Speaker 3: take this fight. I frankly, I think very wisely because 1628 01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:56,040 Speaker 3: Who's Rose Long Islan Luke, Who's Rose? Originally supposed to 1629 01:19:56,040 --> 01:20:01,240 Speaker 3: fight here Alexa Grossa Grosso Lagrossa's right, And I think 1630 01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:04,840 Speaker 3: there was like a I think on the table. Maybe 1631 01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:06,920 Speaker 3: it wouldn't have happened, but it was very possible that 1632 01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:09,880 Speaker 3: if Rose beat Grosso, she was going to jump past 1633 01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:12,479 Speaker 3: Natalia Silva and get a title fight. And so when 1634 01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:16,719 Speaker 3: Grosso withdrew Nattie Ice was like a I fighter, because 1635 01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:19,240 Speaker 3: then that removes the possibility of that happened. I think 1636 01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:21,840 Speaker 3: it's pretty savvy from her, And yeah, this is just 1637 01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:24,360 Speaker 3: an obvious one like Rose is on a good winning streak, 1638 01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:27,040 Speaker 3: Like who else is going to fight? You could do 1639 01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:31,600 Speaker 3: Aaron Blanchefield, but Blanchefield does not like demanding it. And 1640 01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:34,880 Speaker 3: if Rose beats Natalia Silva, she will be the obvious 1641 01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:37,080 Speaker 3: choice for it because the only person ahead of her 1642 01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:41,160 Speaker 3: would be Manofjr. Manon just lost like she we don't 1643 01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:43,599 Speaker 3: need to do Manon versus Valve again. So I think 1644 01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:46,880 Speaker 3: this makes total sense as an outright number one contender 1645 01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:51,280 Speaker 3: bout the The UFC has broadly wanted to have Rose 1646 01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:53,920 Speaker 3: versus Valve for some time, basically since Rose said she 1647 01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:57,600 Speaker 3: was moving up and this won't even be like a 1648 01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:01,000 Speaker 3: nonsense one. If she beats Natalia, she deserves it, and 1649 01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:03,320 Speaker 3: so we can feel good that it's like a meritocratic 1650 01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:05,719 Speaker 3: one outside of just being good for business. 1651 01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:10,519 Speaker 2: Natalia Silva hasn't lost since twenty seventeen. Of course, that 1652 01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:13,760 Speaker 2: pre dates her time. Even inside the UFC, she is 1653 01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:16,360 Speaker 2: coming off of a win over Alexa Grosso, which was 1654 01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:19,280 Speaker 2: fairly one sided back at UC three fifteen. This was 1655 01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:22,160 Speaker 2: the Blah Mohammad and JDM card in twenty twenty five. 1656 01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:25,400 Speaker 2: That was the only time she fought that year. I'm 1657 01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:27,840 Speaker 2: not opposed to the idea of Rose getting one in 1658 01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:31,720 Speaker 2: part because if you'll recall, Rose and Valentina used to 1659 01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:33,920 Speaker 2: train together too briefly, there was a time where there 1660 01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:35,760 Speaker 2: was overlap, and so there's a little bit of that 1661 01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:40,240 Speaker 2: kind of storyline that they could interject. But to me, 1662 01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:44,320 Speaker 2: like again, I'm not gonna cry if Rose Damis gets 1663 01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:46,679 Speaker 2: a title shot. But to me, it's like Natalia Silva 1664 01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:48,600 Speaker 2: is the person who deserves the title shot with a 1665 01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:51,320 Speaker 2: win here. Obviously, with the wind, Rose wouldn't even be 1666 01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:53,240 Speaker 2: Elga or the loss, or to say, Rose wouldn't be Eligi. 1667 01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:56,240 Speaker 2: But I'm just saying like Silva's record of achievement is 1668 01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:59,120 Speaker 2: vastly greater at this not overall, but at the more 1669 01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:02,960 Speaker 2: recent stage of it. It's a fresh it's a fresh situation. 1670 01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:07,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I get again, if it's an American in 1671 01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:09,679 Speaker 2: a Brazilian and obviously in this case, you only only 1672 01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:11,240 Speaker 2: one winner can be that case they're going to get 1673 01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:14,360 Speaker 2: bumped to the front of the line. But the case 1674 01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:19,679 Speaker 2: for Roses, I don't know. I don't it's not that strong. 1675 01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:22,799 Speaker 2: To me, I get it, I get it. Promotionally, I 1676 01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:25,599 Speaker 2: believe me, I get it. It's what would do bigger numbers? 1677 01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:29,160 Speaker 2: Rose numby units versus Hipchenko or Talia silver versus Hipchenko. 1678 01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:32,000 Speaker 2: The answer is obvious, But at the same time, it's like, 1679 01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:34,080 Speaker 2: I think only one of these has really put themselves 1680 01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:36,439 Speaker 2: in a position to even be eligible for this kind 1681 01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:38,200 Speaker 2: of a thing. And as you point out, you know 1682 01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:41,720 Speaker 2: his Blanchefield screaming for a title shot. No, but she's 1683 01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:44,720 Speaker 2: coming off two wins in a row, which Rose is not. 1684 01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:45,559 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1685 01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:48,880 Speaker 3: I don't hate she wins in a row. If she 1686 01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:53,719 Speaker 3: beats the Silva, okay, well she'll be in the UFC 1687 01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:55,760 Speaker 3: rank if she beats Look if they gave her one 1688 01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:57,240 Speaker 3: now it would be stupid. And if they gave her 1689 01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:59,280 Speaker 3: one if she had beat Alexa Grosso, would be stupid, 1690 01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:02,679 Speaker 3: but very possible. She beats Nathalia Silva, she will either 1691 01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:04,479 Speaker 3: be number two or number three in the rankings. It 1692 01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:08,400 Speaker 3: will depend on whether the UFC ranking people or AI 1693 01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:10,559 Speaker 3: I don't remember if they've done that or not, put 1694 01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:13,160 Speaker 3: Aaron Blanchfield, who has a victory over her, above her. 1695 01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:16,040 Speaker 3: But Natalia Silva is number two in the rankings. The 1696 01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:19,160 Speaker 3: only person above her will either be Mina who fought 1697 01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:23,760 Speaker 3: val last year and lost, and Aaron Blanchefield. I think 1698 01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:26,720 Speaker 3: it'll be totally valid if she beats Ntalia Silva to 1699 01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:28,799 Speaker 3: give her a title fight. It won't be the greatest, 1700 01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:32,880 Speaker 3: most undeniable title fight of all time. But buddy, this 1701 01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:36,800 Speaker 3: card is being invented by an interim fight between Justin 1702 01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:41,040 Speaker 3: Gaegee and Patty Piblet. Next week, Diego Lopez is getting 1703 01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:45,760 Speaker 3: at Vault. We should be celebrating, even the semblance of 1704 01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:48,880 Speaker 3: meritocracy because that shit don't play no more. 1705 01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:52,439 Speaker 2: Man. Yeah, that's certainly a fair point. Where do you 1706 01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:56,760 Speaker 2: think Rose is as a fighter, clearly still capable enough 1707 01:23:56,760 --> 01:24:00,040 Speaker 2: to win, capable enough to beat good names by but 1708 01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:04,519 Speaker 2: it does seem like the gap in the lead she 1709 01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:08,599 Speaker 2: had on the division, it's clearly not there anymore. How 1710 01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:11,479 Speaker 2: do you assess that and in particular, how that matches 1711 01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:14,120 Speaker 2: up with Silva. 1712 01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:18,280 Speaker 3: I think Rose is the same fighter she's always been, 1713 01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:22,639 Speaker 3: because she's always been mercurial, right, and like her highs 1714 01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:25,200 Speaker 3: are as high as anybody who's ever competed at women's 1715 01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:30,559 Speaker 3: MMA realistically, but her floor is pretty low and is 1716 01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:34,280 Speaker 3: also like equally as likely to occur. And so the 1717 01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:37,640 Speaker 3: move up because if you really want to get you know, 1718 01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:39,640 Speaker 3: down to it. She's three and two since moving up 1719 01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:43,240 Speaker 3: to flyweight. Her first fight was very competitive with the 1720 01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:47,800 Speaker 3: undisputed number one fighter that's not Volenteership chingleman Offour, and 1721 01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:49,680 Speaker 3: that was her first fight in the weight class. If 1722 01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:52,519 Speaker 3: they fought again, maybe she can edge her out like 1723 01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:54,880 Speaker 3: that was. That was a very you know, back and 1724 01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:57,840 Speaker 3: forth sort of affair. And then Aaron Blanchefield beat her, 1725 01:24:57,880 --> 01:24:59,479 Speaker 3: but didn't beat her by a whole lot in Aaron 1726 01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:03,519 Speaker 3: Blaschfield's very good. So I think Rose, you know, Rose 1727 01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:08,680 Speaker 3: probably isn't a champion, but maybe she could be. And realistically, 1728 01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:11,280 Speaker 3: if you look at her title reigns at one twenty five. 1729 01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:15,400 Speaker 3: They weren't long sustained. Holy shit, no one can beat her. 1730 01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:18,840 Speaker 3: She lost a title fight to call a Sparsa like 1731 01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:23,280 Speaker 3: she she has super high highs, but she can just 1732 01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:27,639 Speaker 3: not She she can have bad days more frequently than 1733 01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:31,880 Speaker 3: other elite fighters can, and so she feels really tough 1734 01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,120 Speaker 3: to pin down, right like, because it is not like 1735 01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:36,559 Speaker 3: the Miranda Maverick fight was thrilling. She just won it. 1736 01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:40,920 Speaker 3: And so I think that she can beat anybody in 1737 01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:43,760 Speaker 3: this weight class. But she can lose to anybody in 1738 01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:47,759 Speaker 3: this weight class, which is not what most elite fighters 1739 01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:51,160 Speaker 3: are right Like, is Amakachev could be anybody at lightweight. 1740 01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:54,200 Speaker 3: He could also lose to like five of them. He 1741 01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:57,160 Speaker 3: couldn't lose to twenty of them. Rose is kind of 1742 01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:59,120 Speaker 3: weird in that regard where she could lose to a 1743 01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:00,439 Speaker 3: lot of fighters in this way class. 1744 01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:03,120 Speaker 2: By the way, again, I'm sorry to do this, but 1745 01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:05,519 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to get these breaking news. Smotherman Tercios 1746 01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:09,240 Speaker 2: officially canceled Cameron Smotherman. According to Alex Bhuonan is being 1747 01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:13,200 Speaker 2: transported to the hospital. The Perez and Figi bouts remain 1748 01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:18,320 Speaker 2: on so we've only lost one bout hopefully that's all 1749 01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:19,800 Speaker 2: that is there. And by the way, I think just 1750 01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:22,000 Speaker 2: Gaechee and cortez A Costa are the only two haven't 1751 01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:24,599 Speaker 2: waiting yet. Cortez Costa coming in too fat to make 1752 01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:27,600 Speaker 2: two sixty five would absolutely make this perfect. Can I 1753 01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:29,040 Speaker 2: just say that outloud? Dude? 1754 01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:31,960 Speaker 3: That would be My god'd be that would be great. 1755 01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:35,200 Speaker 3: It's waiting while doesn't. 1756 01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:37,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, brock Lester had to cut to two 1757 01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:40,320 Speaker 2: sixty five, but you know, for very different reasons than 1758 01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:41,559 Speaker 2: Cortez Costa. 1759 01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:42,320 Speaker 4: Uh. 1760 01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:44,040 Speaker 2: The last thing I'll say on this is there's not 1761 01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:47,200 Speaker 2: a lot of chatter about Silva. And she plays like 1762 01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:49,920 Speaker 2: Monica Sellis played tennis, or she fights like Monica Selli's 1763 01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:52,960 Speaker 2: played tennis, where she kias like Holly Holm, you know 1764 01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:55,240 Speaker 2: what I mean. Like yeah, and it's sort of the 1765 01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:57,840 Speaker 2: sort of a distinctive style of competition. But dude, she's 1766 01:26:57,880 --> 01:26:58,759 Speaker 2: fucking good. 1767 01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:03,000 Speaker 3: Let me tell you, I'm so excited that despite BC leaving, 1768 01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:05,800 Speaker 3: you're still going to keep old man references that none 1769 01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:08,680 Speaker 3: of your fucking viewers will get chat. Tell me if 1770 01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:11,920 Speaker 3: any of you know who the Monica Sells is, so. 1771 01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:13,960 Speaker 2: None of you know, Okay, let's bring it long. Ond Luke, 1772 01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:15,680 Speaker 2: do you know who Monica sell Us is? 1773 01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:20,519 Speaker 4: No idea? So I know it's Monica seller something, right. 1774 01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:22,519 Speaker 2: Are you not aware of a tennis player who was 1775 01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:24,280 Speaker 2: stabbed on the court by a crazed fan. 1776 01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:27,240 Speaker 4: I'm a big Johnny McEnroe guy. You know that's New 1777 01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:28,800 Speaker 4: Yorker's got to stick together. It's the only time. 1778 01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:32,360 Speaker 3: Look, I know who Monica sellis. I know the name. 1779 01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:34,519 Speaker 3: I could not pick her out of a crowd of two. 1780 01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:40,960 Speaker 2: When I was on Serious XM had an she was 1781 01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:43,360 Speaker 2: an intern but then eventually became a producer when they 1782 01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:47,080 Speaker 2: hired her full time. And this was twenty I'm gonna 1783 01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:49,719 Speaker 2: say circa twenty seventeen, so I'm thirty seven at the time, 1784 01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:55,280 Speaker 2: and she was I guess twenty one or twenty two, 1785 01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:57,160 Speaker 2: like right at the end of college, so somewhere around there, 1786 01:27:57,640 --> 01:27:59,920 Speaker 2: and Star Wars had just or one of the Star 1787 01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,480 Speaker 2: warses had come out, like the new New Ones. Yeah, 1788 01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:04,920 Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, you know, Harrison Ford is 1789 01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:08,839 Speaker 2: in it. And she's like, who's Harrison Ford? And I'm like, right, okay. 1790 01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:13,240 Speaker 2: I was like, you've never seen Indiana Jones, Like Nope, 1791 01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:16,920 Speaker 2: don't even know what the fuck that is. I was like, so, 1792 01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:18,120 Speaker 2: here's how this works. 1793 01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:20,160 Speaker 3: You're more old in washed than I am. Can I 1794 01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:23,040 Speaker 3: tell you a very brief old wash story. Yeah, I'll 1795 01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:25,160 Speaker 3: keep it as very very brief because this was like 1796 01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:27,960 Speaker 3: genuinely one of my first, oh my fucking god, I'm 1797 01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:32,200 Speaker 3: old moments. And it happened last year. I met this girl. 1798 01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:33,960 Speaker 3: I went on a date with her. She's a little 1799 01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:38,439 Speaker 3: younger than me, she's thirty, and we were talking. Long 1800 01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:43,479 Speaker 3: story short. She was telling me about going paddleboarding down 1801 01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:46,240 Speaker 3: the river and getting stuck because she got too tired 1802 01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:48,080 Speaker 3: to go back up. And she was like, yeah, so 1803 01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:49,720 Speaker 3: I had to call one of my friends to come 1804 01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:52,000 Speaker 3: pick me up. Thank god, I have GPS on my phone. 1805 01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:54,960 Speaker 3: Can you imagine living in a world without GPS? And 1806 01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:57,040 Speaker 3: I was like, I don't have to imagine, bitch, I did. 1807 01:28:57,360 --> 01:29:00,360 Speaker 3: I used to print out math quest directions, how does 1808 01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:03,160 Speaker 3: the gap between us feel like a canyon? When it's 1809 01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:06,360 Speaker 3: six years? Is the oldest I've ever felt my whole life? 1810 01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:08,639 Speaker 2: Pretty out mapquist, bitch. I used to buy the books 1811 01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:10,280 Speaker 2: where you would have to like to like to go 1812 01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:11,639 Speaker 2: Yes Beltway. 1813 01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:13,360 Speaker 3: I had a map of Georgia in my car for 1814 01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:13,920 Speaker 3: a long time. 1815 01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:16,479 Speaker 2: The thing is, map quest would like give you directions 1816 01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:18,799 Speaker 2: like turn left here, turn right at the circle, whatever. 1817 01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:21,479 Speaker 2: But with the old way was you have to open 1818 01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:24,040 Speaker 2: the book, look at the map. You have to memorize, Okay, 1819 01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:26,360 Speaker 2: I'm taking the third lane to the right on exit 1820 01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:29,000 Speaker 2: twenty four B. You'd have to have that whole thing 1821 01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:32,760 Speaker 2: mema fucking memorized behind the wheel of a car. And 1822 01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:34,800 Speaker 2: now'd be like, what could you do without GPS? Use 1823 01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:38,200 Speaker 2: your brain power, you fucking idiots out there, Just old 1824 01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:40,880 Speaker 2: washed dudes, old washed dudes, all right. To that end, 1825 01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:45,120 Speaker 2: Natalia Silva, very very good fighter, just hasn't made an 1826 01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:48,320 Speaker 2: imprint on the fan base yet. But I also think again, 1827 01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:50,240 Speaker 2: you just have to ask yourself what the promotion is 1828 01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:52,720 Speaker 2: doing here. They're using rose If she gets a big win, 1829 01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:55,720 Speaker 2: they can slot her up, and otherwise Natalia Silva gets 1830 01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:58,160 Speaker 2: a big win over a name to then slot up 1831 01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:01,680 Speaker 2: for a fresh title challenger in that particular case two Chevchenko. 1832 01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:05,439 Speaker 2: I think either way there's a significant upside for the 1833 01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:06,880 Speaker 2: fans and the promotion as well. 1834 01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:09,439 Speaker 3: One undred percent. These are bout like this and the 1835 01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:13,920 Speaker 3: WCA Derek Lues they're both win wins, the two top 1836 01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:16,360 Speaker 3: end fights. I think there's a clear side. Do us 1837 01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:19,600 Speaker 3: you prefer both of these? No wrong way to eat that? Reesus? 1838 01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:22,879 Speaker 2: I do love Reesi's Reesus is the king of candies. 1839 01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:25,040 Speaker 2: People are like, oh, the King of candies is like Snickers. 1840 01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:28,599 Speaker 2: If you're a fucking trader, it is Reese's peanut butter cups. 1841 01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:31,360 Speaker 2: Fuck heads. All right, Last, but not least for this 1842 01:30:31,479 --> 01:30:35,120 Speaker 2: main card. This fight to me was going under the radar, 1843 01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:38,560 Speaker 2: But I feel like this week things have really, I 1844 01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:41,080 Speaker 2: don't know, they've definitely come to life for this bout. 1845 01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:44,840 Speaker 2: Arnold Allen takes on Jayon Silva in one hundred and 1846 01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:48,719 Speaker 2: forty five pound match. That just you gotta absolutely freaking love. 1847 01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:52,760 Speaker 2: What a contest this is. I love everything about it. Now, 1848 01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:55,519 Speaker 2: before we do anything else, I have to play this. 1849 01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:00,240 Speaker 2: Oh wait, do we have the one of him talking 1850 01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:03,839 Speaker 2: about eating bugs? Do we have the eating bugs? 1851 01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:05,479 Speaker 4: Not Arnold Allen? 1852 01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:11,120 Speaker 2: Oh? What am I saying? What are my Jesus brain 1853 01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:12,439 Speaker 2: just not working? 1854 01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:12,720 Speaker 4: All right? 1855 01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:15,599 Speaker 2: Let's start here if we can, Arnold Allen, let's use 1856 01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:17,679 Speaker 2: this clip. I'm going to play a clip for you 1857 01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:22,760 Speaker 2: about Silva insinuating why he even took this fight to 1858 01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:25,080 Speaker 2: begin with, and I want you to tell me what 1859 01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:27,519 Speaker 2: that tells you about the matchmaking go ahead. 1860 01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:30,719 Speaker 9: Well, what happened was this fight had been scheduled before 1861 01:31:31,439 --> 01:31:34,360 Speaker 9: he was Indoca, but he had to pull out because 1862 01:31:34,760 --> 01:31:38,080 Speaker 9: something some sort of injury in one of the shoulders, 1863 01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:42,040 Speaker 9: or you need to move move up in division or 1864 01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:42,760 Speaker 9: something of the sort. 1865 01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:43,840 Speaker 2: So we don't know. 1866 01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:47,599 Speaker 9: But he was also set up to fight Aaron Pico 1867 01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:49,519 Speaker 9: and he kind of backed that last minute, and you 1868 01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:53,680 Speaker 9: know that Short notices and take it. So is it 1869 01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:56,519 Speaker 9: that he took the fight against me or did the 1870 01:31:56,600 --> 01:31:57,840 Speaker 9: UFC make him ticket? 1871 01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:02,160 Speaker 2: Arnold has not been super busy, and that's been true 1872 01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:04,920 Speaker 2: for some time, but it's been especially true now and 1873 01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:07,920 Speaker 2: you realize he's still just thirty two. He should still 1874 01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:10,920 Speaker 2: be in his athletic prime. What do you make of 1875 01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:12,080 Speaker 2: what Silva says here? 1876 01:32:13,479 --> 01:32:16,760 Speaker 3: I mean, I doubt that the UFC made Onold Allen 1877 01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:19,040 Speaker 3: take this fight because I don't like, why would on 1878 01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:20,400 Speaker 3: it all and not want to take this fight. This 1879 01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:22,200 Speaker 3: is a great fight for Rod Allen. He might lose, 1880 01:32:22,280 --> 01:32:24,240 Speaker 3: I want to be really clear on that. But like 1881 01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:27,840 Speaker 3: John Silva's, guy's got juice Like these are the kind 1882 01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:30,720 Speaker 3: of fights you want if you are, especially a guy 1883 01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:33,400 Speaker 3: who's been forgotten because you haven't fought in eighteen months. 1884 01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:38,960 Speaker 3: And so John Silva says stuff. He is my boy, 1885 01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:41,439 Speaker 3: and I love him because I loved him for a 1886 01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:44,920 Speaker 3: long time before people started to love him. But he 1887 01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:47,559 Speaker 3: talks a whole lot, and I'm not even sure he 1888 01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:51,919 Speaker 3: knows what he's saying. He just sort of talks because 1889 01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:54,639 Speaker 3: he can't bark all the time. But if he could, 1890 01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:58,360 Speaker 3: if he could communicate exclusively through barks, trust that that's 1891 01:32:58,400 --> 01:32:59,760 Speaker 3: exactly what that man would be doing. 1892 01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:06,599 Speaker 2: We pull up my notes here. I apologize. Alan spoke 1893 01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:10,440 Speaker 2: to our friend Brian Campbell about some of his motivation 1894 01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:12,640 Speaker 2: coming into this contest. I want to play it and 1895 01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:13,280 Speaker 2: get your reaction. 1896 01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:16,320 Speaker 3: Do you feel like there's a motivation within you that 1897 01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:18,160 Speaker 3: like people kind of kind of forgot about that. 1898 01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:21,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, one hundred percent, you know. I want I'm pissed 1899 01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:22,519 Speaker 6: off right. I want to go and show how good 1900 01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:24,320 Speaker 6: I am. I want to remind people how good I am, 1901 01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:26,880 Speaker 6: with no questions, no asterixies. I want to go out 1902 01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:28,559 Speaker 6: and show you what I can do because I know 1903 01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:30,519 Speaker 6: how good I am, and I think a lot of 1904 01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:33,040 Speaker 6: people do, but definitely being written off in this fight, 1905 01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:34,000 Speaker 6: and that's that's cool. 1906 01:33:35,479 --> 01:33:38,519 Speaker 2: He's twenty and three is his official record, as I indicated, 1907 01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:40,560 Speaker 2: thirty two years of age. He is coming off the 1908 01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:43,040 Speaker 2: gig at Chakazi win over back to back losses and 1909 01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:45,360 Speaker 2: once in twenty twenty three of Max Holloway and then 1910 01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:47,439 Speaker 2: once in twenty twenty four of most are vloye of 1911 01:33:47,479 --> 01:33:50,439 Speaker 2: although both of those ended up having a pretty interesting 1912 01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:55,120 Speaker 2: degree of competitiveness. Are people sleeping on Arnold Allen has 1913 01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:59,360 Speaker 2: his absence and sort of quiet demeanor relative to Jayon Silva, 1914 01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:04,400 Speaker 2: who literally barks his way through press conferences. Have has 1915 01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:07,280 Speaker 2: the public forgotten about him as a relevant contender at one. 1916 01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:11,360 Speaker 3: One undred percent? Dude, I told Jordan they forgot about 1917 01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:15,000 Speaker 3: shove Gut. This is Arnt Allen. Arnt Allen didn't finish 1918 01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:18,040 Speaker 3: every dude he ever fought, and he's been out for 1919 01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:20,920 Speaker 3: eighteen months instead of just a year. Like, I love 1920 01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:22,760 Speaker 3: Arnt Allen. I have been a huge arn and alland 1921 01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:26,640 Speaker 3: supporter for a very long time. He's like he is. 1922 01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:30,439 Speaker 3: He's that weird nexus where like especially your media like 1923 01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:33,519 Speaker 3: more like me, less like you, though still some were 1924 01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:36,000 Speaker 3: like you want fighters to say quotes so you can 1925 01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:39,600 Speaker 3: write those and do something with that. Arnold does not 1926 01:34:39,840 --> 01:34:41,800 Speaker 3: do that at all. That was like one of the 1927 01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:43,960 Speaker 3: first times like, oh, that was like a pretty good 1928 01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:47,080 Speaker 3: little like a quote from alnret Allen. And yet I 1929 01:34:47,160 --> 01:34:49,320 Speaker 3: want to hear him talk at media day because I 1930 01:34:49,439 --> 01:34:51,320 Speaker 3: just like him, Like he seems like a dude who'd 1931 01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:52,880 Speaker 3: be great to have a beer with or go to 1932 01:34:52,920 --> 01:34:56,400 Speaker 3: Tesco with or whatever. And people are absolutely sleeping on him. 1933 01:34:56,439 --> 01:34:58,800 Speaker 3: They were sleeping on him before, right, Like the Max 1934 01:34:58,840 --> 01:35:03,639 Speaker 3: Holloway lost despite being competitive against Max Freakin Holloway really 1935 01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:06,120 Speaker 3: read as a oh, now we have an excuse to 1936 01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:08,960 Speaker 3: forget about this dude because he fights so infrequently and 1937 01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:11,720 Speaker 3: they just kind of want to. So I think he 1938 01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:15,799 Speaker 3: might lose. It's very, very possible that John Silva beats him. 1939 01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:19,639 Speaker 3: And it's hard to feel confident in Arnold aland coming 1940 01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:21,880 Speaker 3: off such a long layoff and being so hit or 1941 01:35:21,920 --> 01:35:24,519 Speaker 3: miss lately. But like, this is one of the six 1942 01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:26,360 Speaker 3: to seven best dudes in the world in his weight 1943 01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:29,800 Speaker 3: if he's on form, The question is is he on form? 1944 01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:31,960 Speaker 2: What I love about this contest is you got a 1945 01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:35,120 Speaker 2: guy in Silva who's a lot of offense, not much defense. 1946 01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:37,200 Speaker 2: And then you've got a guy in Allen who's a 1947 01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:39,439 Speaker 2: lot of defense. I'm not gonna say not much offense, 1948 01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:43,719 Speaker 2: but it's certainly defensively oriented. And then the question is, well, 1949 01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:47,559 Speaker 2: which one gives here? And Silva, Okay, he is coming 1950 01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:50,719 Speaker 2: off of a bad loss where he had some inspired moments, 1951 01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:52,320 Speaker 2: but you know, in general has been on a pretty 1952 01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:55,439 Speaker 2: good run. But again, I think there's a question of 1953 01:35:55,479 --> 01:35:59,360 Speaker 2: like what his defensive readiness is. But Arnold Allen has 1954 01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:02,200 Speaker 2: been in equently there as we've indicated, he is still 1955 01:36:02,280 --> 01:36:05,559 Speaker 2: very good. But still I don't think has reached his 1956 01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:10,559 Speaker 2: full potential with a win over Silva, who's just sitting 1957 01:36:10,640 --> 01:36:14,919 Speaker 2: at ten in the rankings. Jed, what does Allan prove exactly? 1958 01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:18,960 Speaker 3: I mean, some of it will be how he wins, 1959 01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:21,839 Speaker 3: right Like, if he wins a sort of classic Arnold 1960 01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:26,519 Speaker 3: Allen good, not very memorable fight, it's not going to 1961 01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:28,240 Speaker 3: prove a lot. It's just going to be like, oh, 1962 01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:30,720 Speaker 3: Arnold Allen is still he's still dude. If he could 1963 01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:33,000 Speaker 3: ever find a way to fight more than once a year, 1964 01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:36,919 Speaker 3: people might care about him. If he Dan hookers him, 1965 01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:39,479 Speaker 3: you know, like people forget about the Dan Hooker fight 1966 01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:42,120 Speaker 3: because it feels like it happened ten years ago. But 1967 01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:45,400 Speaker 3: if he Dan Hookers, John Silva, should Diego Loopus be 1968 01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:47,640 Speaker 3: John Silvie's fighting for a title. I'm not saying the 1969 01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:50,400 Speaker 3: same thing is gonna happen for Ronald Allen, but I 1970 01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:53,040 Speaker 3: am saying that if he beats him and somehow didn't 1971 01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:56,840 Speaker 3: doesn't break both his hands in taran Achilles and can 1972 01:36:56,840 --> 01:37:00,040 Speaker 3: fight again this year, that fight's probably against like a 1973 01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:03,599 Speaker 3: Ron Murphy for a title eliminator or Diego Lopez. If 1974 01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:06,240 Speaker 3: he loses to Volk, it's probably a fight of that magnitude, 1975 01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:08,280 Speaker 3: so it's a really important fight for him. 1976 01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:11,479 Speaker 2: Franklin Saturday also not for nothing. But they're clearly also 1977 01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:13,760 Speaker 2: giving some opportunities here. I mean, the Brazilians always make 1978 01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:17,360 Speaker 2: themselves available for high level fights because they're very, very good. 1979 01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:20,080 Speaker 2: But also of note, like the UFC is still making 1980 01:37:20,120 --> 01:37:22,240 Speaker 2: sure that they're nurturing that market, putting Silvia in a 1981 01:37:22,280 --> 01:37:24,720 Speaker 2: fight that maybe he hasn't necessarily earned, although I do 1982 01:37:24,840 --> 01:37:28,519 Speaker 2: like the pairing Italia Silva getting a huge opportunity as well. 1983 01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:31,200 Speaker 2: Just some fun opportunities there along the way. All right, 1984 01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:35,200 Speaker 2: time for a prediction. Silva and Alan, what do you think? 1985 01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:41,639 Speaker 3: My head says John Silva, My heart kind of says right, Allen. Frankly, 1986 01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:46,000 Speaker 3: despite Jean Silva being my boy, activity matters a lot 1987 01:37:46,040 --> 01:37:49,680 Speaker 3: on the sport in general, John Silva. My hope for 1988 01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:52,160 Speaker 3: John Silva is he is coming off that Diego Lopez 1989 01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:55,240 Speaker 3: fight that he lost, and I think people, because of 1990 01:37:55,280 --> 01:37:57,640 Speaker 3: how it unfolded, I think people maybe don't remember that 1991 01:37:57,680 --> 01:38:00,320 Speaker 3: fight as well as it I do. He lost the 1992 01:38:00,360 --> 01:38:03,960 Speaker 3: first round dominantly, he was tuning Diego up in the 1993 01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:06,519 Speaker 3: second round, and then he did the Jean Silva thing 1994 01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:09,439 Speaker 3: where he got way too excited about anything happening, ran 1995 01:38:09,479 --> 01:38:12,320 Speaker 3: in and got killed. I'm hopeful that that will teach 1996 01:38:12,400 --> 01:38:14,479 Speaker 3: him a lesson like Justin Gatge had to learn so 1997 01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:16,759 Speaker 3: long ago, like maybe I can't be a total psycho 1998 01:38:16,840 --> 01:38:19,439 Speaker 3: every second of every fight, and he'll come in as 1999 01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:23,080 Speaker 3: a more like focused fighter. And if that happens, I 2000 01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:25,760 Speaker 3: think that even as good as Arnold Allen can be 2001 01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:28,080 Speaker 3: in his best day, that's still he's probably still gonna 2002 01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:31,120 Speaker 3: lose a decision. And if Arnold Allen is rusty at 2003 01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:33,040 Speaker 3: all because of the long wayoff, I think he's in 2004 01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:36,240 Speaker 3: a lot of trouble. So I'm gonna go Jean Silva 2005 01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:38,880 Speaker 3: by decision, but I would love to see Arnold Allen 2006 01:38:39,439 --> 01:38:41,080 Speaker 3: kind of come back with a vengeance here. 2007 01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:44,519 Speaker 2: Luke, what are the odds on this particular contest from 2008 01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:45,479 Speaker 2: our friends of DraftKings. 2009 01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:47,519 Speaker 4: I got Arnold Allen earlier in the week at plus 2010 01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:50,679 Speaker 4: two forty and John Silva was minus three twenty five. 2011 01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:53,679 Speaker 4: Right now, Arnold Allen is plus two to ten, John 2012 01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:55,320 Speaker 4: Silva minus two fifty eight. 2013 01:38:55,439 --> 01:38:57,519 Speaker 2: A little bit of money coming in on Arnold Allen. 2014 01:38:57,680 --> 01:39:04,479 Speaker 2: I gotta say, I love I'm torn right because the 2015 01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:08,400 Speaker 2: reality is in mma and this change is obviously the 2016 01:39:08,439 --> 01:39:11,880 Speaker 2: higher you go. But as a general rule, offense is 2017 01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:14,840 Speaker 2: more important than defense. But of course it is the 2018 01:39:14,920 --> 01:39:16,920 Speaker 2: higher up you get. You know, you can't really play 2019 01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:18,800 Speaker 2: with that, but you know, if you had to weigh 2020 01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:20,800 Speaker 2: which one is more important for winning fights? And I'm made, 2021 01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:24,240 Speaker 2: the answer is obviously offense. But at the same time 2022 01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:27,960 Speaker 2: Silva is fucking reckless, you know what I mean, And 2023 01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:30,960 Speaker 2: he does dumb shit and he takes dumb ass chances. 2024 01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:33,720 Speaker 2: The question is like what that means against Like, like, 2025 01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:36,639 Speaker 2: is the Diego Lopez fight with the worst one for him? 2026 01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:38,960 Speaker 2: Because Lopez will also play a little bit reckless, but 2027 01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:41,599 Speaker 2: it's just better anyway, And so he made him pay. 2028 01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:44,200 Speaker 2: Or is it someone who is very defensively sound who 2029 01:39:44,200 --> 01:39:45,840 Speaker 2: can just neutralize all of that and wait for his 2030 01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:48,599 Speaker 2: opportunity in a three round fight. I'm gonna go jay 2031 01:39:48,640 --> 01:39:51,320 Speaker 2: on Silva, but I really do hope Arnold Allen wins 2032 01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:53,280 Speaker 2: because I've been waiting for him to turn a corner 2033 01:39:53,960 --> 01:39:56,080 Speaker 2: to the next level, and this would be a great 2034 01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:57,960 Speaker 2: opportunity for him. I just don't know if you will. 2035 01:39:58,240 --> 01:40:01,240 Speaker 3: You know, dude, it is entirely possible that he in fact, 2036 01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:04,680 Speaker 3: Dan Hooker's him, that John Silva just runs it recklessly 2037 01:40:05,080 --> 01:40:07,679 Speaker 3: and he just throws the right hand, and that's the ballgame. 2038 01:40:07,760 --> 01:40:10,240 Speaker 3: Like that's very much in play, And would honestly be 2039 01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:12,960 Speaker 3: kind of sick because I think if Johan Silva lost 2040 01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:15,519 Speaker 3: two in a row, he would have to be an adult, 2041 01:40:15,600 --> 01:40:17,360 Speaker 3: Like you'd have to go back his camp and be like, 2042 01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:21,400 Speaker 3: hey man, we want to control your psychosis and just 2043 01:40:21,439 --> 01:40:24,040 Speaker 3: spurts like you just it's not you don't build the 2044 01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:27,400 Speaker 3: plane out of being crazy you. That's part of the 2045 01:40:27,439 --> 01:40:29,800 Speaker 3: whole constituent game that we're going to build around you. 2046 01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:34,360 Speaker 2: We shall see. All I know is it's a I'm 2047 01:40:34,360 --> 01:40:37,120 Speaker 2: a little surprised that the heavyweight fight isn't opening the card, 2048 01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:39,559 Speaker 2: but doesn't really matter. It's a great fight to open 2049 01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:41,320 Speaker 2: the card just the same, right. 2050 01:40:41,680 --> 01:40:45,040 Speaker 3: I think. I think the idea is there's just no 2051 01:40:45,080 --> 01:40:48,519 Speaker 3: way this fight is boring because John Silva is like 2052 01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:52,000 Speaker 3: allergic to being in boring fights. And while it's unlikely 2053 01:40:52,360 --> 01:40:55,760 Speaker 3: Derek Lewis and waldokutz A Coasta could be boring because 2054 01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:58,559 Speaker 3: that's sort of always an option with heavyweight fights. Sometimes 2055 01:40:58,640 --> 01:41:01,240 Speaker 3: they can get big and heavyweight and just not do 2056 01:41:01,360 --> 01:41:02,080 Speaker 3: a lot. 2057 01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:06,040 Speaker 2: Let's go to Long Island, Luke. Here, it turns out 2058 01:41:06,160 --> 01:41:09,160 Speaker 2: we're only waiting for Justin gat you to weigh in. 2059 01:41:09,240 --> 01:41:10,599 Speaker 2: Is that right? Yeah? 2060 01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:13,200 Speaker 4: And I mean as time he's got fifteen minutes, but 2061 01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:17,360 Speaker 4: as time swindling down and getting a little nervous here is. 2062 01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:21,400 Speaker 2: He usually late? When I say late, I mean like 2063 01:41:21,479 --> 01:41:22,320 Speaker 2: later in the window. 2064 01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:23,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know. 2065 01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:29,360 Speaker 3: He's never missed weight, so but at least because but 2066 01:41:29,400 --> 01:41:30,800 Speaker 3: I was going to say, like, you know, if you 2067 01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:33,639 Speaker 3: don't have staff and just have an in coron air, 2068 01:41:33,960 --> 01:41:36,280 Speaker 3: maybe your weight fluctuates. I don't know that would be 2069 01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:40,040 Speaker 3: categorical disaster. Frankly, so knock on wood. 2070 01:41:41,160 --> 01:41:43,680 Speaker 2: All right, well, no, okay, so hold on, let's talk 2071 01:41:43,680 --> 01:41:48,439 Speaker 2: about this. If he misses weight, then the bout would 2072 01:41:48,920 --> 01:41:50,720 Speaker 2: I'm assuming, like by a couple of pounds, not by 2073 01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:53,080 Speaker 2: some astronomical amount. If he were to misweight, again we 2074 01:41:53,080 --> 01:41:56,559 Speaker 2: were talking in hypotheticals, the interim title would still be 2075 01:41:56,640 --> 01:41:59,680 Speaker 2: on the line for Patty Correct. It just wouldn't be 2076 01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:03,160 Speaker 2: on the line for Justin Correct, which would still fucking 2077 01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:08,080 Speaker 2: suck because if Justin wins Themare, especially via knockout, and 2078 01:42:08,120 --> 01:42:10,160 Speaker 2: you're like, okay, well, you could have taken that to 2079 01:42:10,280 --> 01:42:13,559 Speaker 2: a lot of places. I don't I'm not anticipating that. 2080 01:42:13,760 --> 01:42:15,840 Speaker 4: I don't think it's actually the worst case scenario as 2081 01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:18,360 Speaker 4: long as because this is just a number one contender 2082 01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:21,080 Speaker 4: fight essentially for who fights Ilia? So who cares if 2083 01:42:21,120 --> 01:42:24,120 Speaker 4: the interim title isn't there. If wins, I gotta tell 2084 01:42:24,160 --> 01:42:27,439 Speaker 4: you Bill gets Ilia next. Arguably, no, I gotta tell 2085 01:42:27,479 --> 01:42:28,200 Speaker 4: you you know who. 2086 01:42:28,240 --> 01:42:31,639 Speaker 3: This is just terrific news for If Justin Geichie does 2087 01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:35,200 Speaker 3: miss waight armand Serukian just moved to the head of 2088 01:42:35,240 --> 01:42:38,639 Speaker 3: the line, baby. If if Gechie misses wait and beats. 2089 01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:43,120 Speaker 3: Patty Zukin might just jump the line. 2090 01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:45,800 Speaker 2: Arm is gonna be like like that. You know that 2091 01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:47,759 Speaker 2: that jiff from Shannon Sharp. 2092 01:42:47,960 --> 01:42:52,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's going to be posting today if that happens. 2093 01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:55,280 Speaker 2: Before we talk about the prelims here very quickly, let's 2094 01:42:55,280 --> 01:42:57,760 Speaker 2: do some DK pick six here on the UFC side 2095 01:42:57,760 --> 01:42:59,479 Speaker 2: of things. We talked about it a little bit earlier 2096 01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:02,080 Speaker 2: on the NFL side, but we can do it for 2097 01:43:02,120 --> 01:43:05,000 Speaker 2: the UFC side. It's all available right now, and by 2098 01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:09,800 Speaker 2: the way, presented by DraftKings, the crown is yours. Let's 2099 01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:11,519 Speaker 2: do a little bit of this here. So on the 2100 01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:16,880 Speaker 2: MMA side, Jed, we got all these different fighters and 2101 01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:19,920 Speaker 2: different permutations for them. I don't want to get to 2102 01:43:19,960 --> 01:43:23,880 Speaker 2: the prelimp portions now, but okay, for example, for example 2103 01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:27,040 Speaker 2: Derek Lewis, you can get him at point five knockouts, 2104 01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:30,879 Speaker 2: you can take more or less. But the more interesting 2105 01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:34,160 Speaker 2: one to me are the striking totals. So if you 2106 01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:36,320 Speaker 2: look around, they've got to tell your Silva sixty three 2107 01:43:36,360 --> 01:43:38,240 Speaker 2: point five. I would take the over on that. I 2108 01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:39,680 Speaker 2: think one way or the other that one's going to 2109 01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:43,759 Speaker 2: be active. I'll put it that way. Sean O'Malley seventy 2110 01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:47,000 Speaker 2: nine point five. That seems high. Songa Dong has a 2111 01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:49,479 Speaker 2: pretty good chin. The one that's interesting to me is 2112 01:43:49,560 --> 01:43:52,519 Speaker 2: sixty one and a half for Patty Pimblet. What do 2113 01:43:52,600 --> 01:43:53,960 Speaker 2: you think over or under? 2114 01:43:55,560 --> 01:43:57,960 Speaker 3: I want to say under, but five round fights are 2115 01:43:58,000 --> 01:44:01,400 Speaker 3: just tough, especially like six on the ground like that 2116 01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:05,280 Speaker 3: and lean under on that, but I have not a 2117 01:44:05,320 --> 01:44:06,840 Speaker 3: lot of confidence in that pick. 2118 01:44:07,760 --> 01:44:10,320 Speaker 2: So for Patty Pemblet, if you go to UFC stats 2119 01:44:10,360 --> 01:44:14,599 Speaker 2: Fight Metric, he averages per minute strikes landed five point 2120 01:44:14,680 --> 01:44:18,400 Speaker 2: one point nine, so he would have to be let's see, 2121 01:44:18,400 --> 01:44:20,639 Speaker 2: that would be a little bit over twenty five round 2122 01:44:21,240 --> 01:44:23,760 Speaker 2: so we're talking about three rounds that would cover if 2123 01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:27,160 Speaker 2: he does his average. That's kind of the question here 2124 01:44:27,200 --> 01:44:28,880 Speaker 2: is like what you think Justin is going to take 2125 01:44:28,920 --> 01:44:30,080 Speaker 2: away from him? You know what I mean? 2126 01:44:30,360 --> 01:44:33,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe I might. Honestly, over might be right. It 2127 01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:36,880 Speaker 3: it's it also then that's so volatile because again it's 2128 01:44:36,920 --> 01:44:39,800 Speaker 3: back to our analysis. I think if Patty gets two takedowns, 2129 01:44:40,680 --> 01:44:43,280 Speaker 3: fight's probably over. Like he's probably going to beat the 2130 01:44:43,280 --> 01:44:44,439 Speaker 3: shit out of Justice on the ground. 2131 01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:47,240 Speaker 2: I'm so glad you mentioned that. So for Patty on 2132 01:44:47,320 --> 01:44:51,439 Speaker 2: the takedowns more or less ready they got you right, 2133 01:44:51,479 --> 01:44:53,599 Speaker 2: they got you right in the middle two and a half, 2134 01:44:54,280 --> 01:44:55,040 Speaker 2: two and a half. 2135 01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:57,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, uh to me, that's one Like, if you think 2136 01:44:57,880 --> 01:45:00,400 Speaker 3: Patty's winning, and take the over, if you think he's taking, 2137 01:45:00,479 --> 01:45:03,240 Speaker 3: if you think he's losing, take the under. And maybe 2138 01:45:03,280 --> 01:45:05,640 Speaker 3: he gets two and he just finishes them immediately, and 2139 01:45:05,680 --> 01:45:06,920 Speaker 3: so you still lose that way. 2140 01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:10,599 Speaker 2: But I feel like, obviously there's probably not as much 2141 01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:13,799 Speaker 2: to make on it, given the state of the odds, 2142 01:45:13,880 --> 01:45:17,160 Speaker 2: but gaechee at point five takedowns, I'm taking the under 2143 01:45:17,200 --> 01:45:17,559 Speaker 2: on that. 2144 01:45:17,479 --> 01:45:20,160 Speaker 3: He's gonna go smash the under on that smash the 2145 01:45:20,240 --> 01:45:24,400 Speaker 3: under right, dude, Like, because go back to the Michael 2146 01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:27,679 Speaker 3: Chandler fight. Patty didn't take Michael Chandler down. Michael Chandler 2147 01:45:27,760 --> 01:45:30,839 Speaker 3: shot a takedown and Patty scrambled. If Justin shoots a takedown, 2148 01:45:31,080 --> 01:45:33,320 Speaker 3: which he doesn't do anyway, that he started to mix 2149 01:45:33,360 --> 01:45:38,240 Speaker 3: in it would be disastrously stupid to try and take 2150 01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:39,200 Speaker 3: Patty down. 2151 01:45:39,479 --> 01:45:43,479 Speaker 2: Mashave rematch just for you know, just to play levels. 2152 01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:47,599 Speaker 3: But yeah, and that's Phizzy, that's fine. Like Patty's best 2153 01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:50,680 Speaker 3: takedowns are in transition in scrambling anyway, So like it 2154 01:45:50,680 --> 01:45:53,120 Speaker 3: would be incredibly dumb for him to shoot a take 2155 01:45:53,160 --> 01:45:56,880 Speaker 3: down on Patty unless it is purely the last ten 2156 01:45:57,000 --> 01:45:59,280 Speaker 3: seconds of a round or something like, it would just 2157 01:45:59,320 --> 01:45:59,960 Speaker 3: be so stupid. 2158 01:46:00,760 --> 01:46:04,880 Speaker 2: Fight time here we go, ready, fight time for Patty. 2159 01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:09,040 Speaker 2: Twelve and a half minutes, so less than three rounds. 2160 01:46:09,080 --> 01:46:11,240 Speaker 2: I take the over, take the over. 2161 01:46:11,360 --> 01:46:13,920 Speaker 3: I think that I think that line is good though, 2162 01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:16,120 Speaker 3: because I can totally see it being under. But I'll 2163 01:46:16,160 --> 01:46:16,720 Speaker 3: take the over. 2164 01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:19,799 Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about the prelimbs here in just a second. 2165 01:46:19,800 --> 01:46:23,559 Speaker 2: But they've got that dude a table. A table got 2166 01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:26,600 Speaker 2: a very quickly for four and a half minutes. On 2167 01:46:26,640 --> 01:46:30,120 Speaker 2: the over under, I don't know a great deal about 2168 01:46:30,120 --> 01:46:32,120 Speaker 2: his opponent. I'll be honest, I know a little bit. 2169 01:46:32,880 --> 01:46:35,800 Speaker 2: I'm taking the under. I'm taking the under on that one. 2170 01:46:35,800 --> 01:46:37,559 Speaker 2: I don't think that one's gonna go four minutes. 2171 01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:43,320 Speaker 3: A death touch he does. I love a table Paul 2172 01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:45,599 Speaker 3: I have been like kind of durable in his career. 2173 01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:49,479 Speaker 3: But if it goes over, it's just over. Like he's 2174 01:46:49,520 --> 01:46:50,920 Speaker 3: not making it to the third round. 2175 01:46:51,560 --> 01:46:56,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, PELAIAV has beaten or excuse me, lost to I 2176 01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:59,479 Speaker 2: should say forgive me. Christian Leroy Duncan which is actually 2177 01:46:59,479 --> 01:47:01,000 Speaker 2: turning out to be a pretty good fighter. And then 2178 01:47:01,040 --> 01:47:05,479 Speaker 2: he beat Nkline pretty easily, so maybe he can go more. 2179 01:47:05,560 --> 01:47:07,600 Speaker 2: I suppose. I guess we'll have to see last for 2180 01:47:07,720 --> 01:47:10,639 Speaker 2: me on this one, if I can let me do. Oh, 2181 01:47:10,640 --> 01:47:14,400 Speaker 2: this is interesting one. Control time control time. So now again, 2182 01:47:14,439 --> 01:47:17,040 Speaker 2: control time is not just on top. People don't misunderstand this. 2183 01:47:17,479 --> 01:47:20,839 Speaker 2: Control time is also pressing someone into the fence. Okay, 2184 01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:28,520 Speaker 2: three and a half minutes for Patty. 2185 01:47:30,640 --> 01:47:35,360 Speaker 3: I'll go over, but I don't I'll go over, and 2186 01:47:35,439 --> 01:47:37,880 Speaker 3: I'll because of the fence stuff. But like if he 2187 01:47:37,960 --> 01:47:41,320 Speaker 3: gets on top of Justin, I think the clock is 2188 01:47:41,479 --> 01:47:44,000 Speaker 3: way less than three minutes before he finds a finish. 2189 01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:47,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then last but not least, they've got one 2190 01:47:47,960 --> 01:47:50,560 Speaker 2: more time. Umar number got made off nine and a 2191 01:47:50,600 --> 01:47:53,120 Speaker 2: half minutes of control. I'm taking the over. 2192 01:47:53,800 --> 01:47:57,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. The only way that doesn't hit is if Umar 2193 01:47:57,080 --> 01:47:58,120 Speaker 3: taps him early. 2194 01:47:58,479 --> 01:48:01,000 Speaker 2: Right, right? Is it short of that? 2195 01:48:01,080 --> 01:48:01,160 Speaker 4: No? 2196 01:48:01,200 --> 01:48:04,640 Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe fat Figi's got some juice to him. 2197 01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:07,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. True, I'm still I'm still taking the I'm still 2198 01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:10,040 Speaker 2: taking it, all right. And as I was always presented 2199 01:48:10,040 --> 01:48:13,080 Speaker 2: by DraftKings, the crown is yours. Let's talk quickly if 2200 01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:16,600 Speaker 2: we can about these prelims, which again this car to me. 2201 01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:20,720 Speaker 2: People can beelly ache about the the whether or not 2202 01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:22,640 Speaker 2: Armine should be in here, whether there should be an 2203 01:48:22,640 --> 01:48:27,200 Speaker 2: interim title, all that stuff. But let's talk about some 2204 01:48:27,240 --> 01:48:28,760 Speaker 2: of these prelims. I gotta tell you one of the 2205 01:48:28,760 --> 01:48:31,920 Speaker 2: ones people are sleeping on Michael Johnson taking on Alexander Hernandez. 2206 01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:34,479 Speaker 2: No one's talking about that one. That one should be 2207 01:48:34,680 --> 01:48:35,679 Speaker 2: ridiculous for as long. 2208 01:48:35,560 --> 01:48:37,559 Speaker 4: As it real quick. Justin gage, he made weight one 2209 01:48:37,600 --> 01:48:40,519 Speaker 4: hundred and fifty five pounds. Look, he looks great, he 2210 01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:41,880 Speaker 4: looks fu very good. 2211 01:48:42,160 --> 01:48:44,839 Speaker 3: He was just making people wait for funies for funies. 2212 01:48:44,920 --> 01:48:47,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So let's talk about a table Gatier 2213 01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:51,400 Speaker 2: taken on Andre Pulaev Gotier. Well, let's see this Brian 2214 01:48:51,400 --> 01:48:53,680 Speaker 2: Campbell out there doing hard hitting journalism. Let's let's look 2215 01:48:53,680 --> 01:48:54,719 Speaker 2: at this clip I heard. 2216 01:48:54,760 --> 01:48:57,600 Speaker 3: Man, your diet consists of a lot of bugs? Is 2217 01:48:57,640 --> 01:49:01,320 Speaker 3: this a true fact? Which ones taste the best? I 2218 01:49:01,360 --> 01:49:02,040 Speaker 3: gotta know this. 2219 01:49:02,640 --> 01:49:05,920 Speaker 10: It's like my dad doesn't a lot of bugs, but 2220 01:49:06,600 --> 01:49:11,040 Speaker 10: I do eight bugs, you know, because yeah I do. Yeah, 2221 01:49:11,200 --> 01:49:13,320 Speaker 10: so it is good to me, and it's like you 2222 01:49:13,400 --> 01:49:15,840 Speaker 10: have to try it before like, you know, people can judge, 2223 01:49:15,840 --> 01:49:17,280 Speaker 10: but yeah, they netly try it. 2224 01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:19,479 Speaker 3: Okay, but I'm afraid of spiders. I could never imagine 2225 01:49:19,479 --> 01:49:20,280 Speaker 3: putting one inside. 2226 01:49:20,360 --> 01:49:23,000 Speaker 10: Oh, like their white spice and everything. 2227 01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:24,160 Speaker 4: It would be good. 2228 01:49:24,160 --> 01:49:32,120 Speaker 3: Okay, good, truly. Brian Campbell's calling to talk about eating bugs. 2229 01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:38,200 Speaker 2: That's so great. Nevertheless, this guy loves cats. He has 2230 01:49:38,320 --> 01:49:43,000 Speaker 2: built like fucking prime Evander Holyfield. I love this guy 2231 01:49:43,120 --> 01:49:45,559 Speaker 2: middleweight and I you know, maybe Pulley apple A is 2232 01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:48,720 Speaker 2: a decent test, but I'm all aboard the go to 2233 01:49:48,840 --> 01:49:50,600 Speaker 2: a hype train. I'll just say that. 2234 01:49:51,479 --> 01:49:53,920 Speaker 3: I loved him coming off Contender series. It's like he's 2235 01:49:53,920 --> 01:49:57,240 Speaker 3: twenty three and a murderer. Like if he gets if 2236 01:49:57,280 --> 01:50:01,120 Speaker 3: he even just kind of gets better. Ever, like consistently, 2237 01:50:01,840 --> 01:50:05,760 Speaker 3: he's just gonna be incredible. Uh, he rocks. Good for 2238 01:50:05,840 --> 01:50:07,559 Speaker 3: him eating bugs. I've eaten some bugs. 2239 01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:11,680 Speaker 2: You know, it's Columbia. I'm not I'm not not for me. 2240 01:50:12,400 --> 01:50:14,639 Speaker 3: Come on, you didn't like like a I've had cricket. 2241 01:50:14,720 --> 01:50:18,000 Speaker 3: Cricket's fine. The bugs don't taste like shit. They're just crunchy. Mostly. 2242 01:50:18,560 --> 01:50:22,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not. I'd rather just star nice. Yeah. Uh. 2243 01:50:22,880 --> 01:50:24,640 Speaker 2: Niki de Krilov, who was kind of fall off a 2244 01:50:24,640 --> 01:50:28,480 Speaker 2: little bit taking on I would argue some somewhat resurgent 2245 01:50:28,840 --> 01:50:31,320 Speaker 2: Bodestas Bukowskis. I would not have said this fight would 2246 01:50:31,320 --> 01:50:34,160 Speaker 2: be a competitive three years ago for Bukowskis, but I 2247 01:50:34,160 --> 01:50:36,040 Speaker 2: actually think it's very competitive for him now. 2248 01:50:36,800 --> 01:50:41,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, Bucock is gonna win because Nikita Krillov is super 2249 01:50:41,120 --> 01:50:43,719 Speaker 3: washed and he's on like a five fight win streak. 2250 01:50:44,040 --> 01:50:47,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Alex Perez uh missed wait taking on maybe one 2251 01:50:47,680 --> 01:50:51,280 Speaker 2: of the most underrated fighters on this roster, Charles Energy Johnson. 2252 01:50:51,760 --> 01:50:53,840 Speaker 2: Love this fight for Johnson, and I think he wins 2253 01:50:53,920 --> 01:50:56,639 Speaker 2: US one walking Away very much. 2254 01:50:56,640 --> 01:50:59,120 Speaker 3: Agree Odds Long Island Luke. I think are actually still 2255 01:50:59,160 --> 01:51:02,160 Speaker 3: fairly close this one, which is interesting given the run 2256 01:51:02,280 --> 01:51:04,120 Speaker 3: Alex Prez has been on. He's won like one of 2257 01:51:04,120 --> 01:51:06,080 Speaker 3: his last seven fights or something. 2258 01:51:05,920 --> 01:51:09,639 Speaker 4: Plus way forty five Perez minus one seventy five inner. 2259 01:51:09,520 --> 01:51:11,640 Speaker 3: G Yeah, I would really think Johnson should be a 2260 01:51:11,680 --> 01:51:14,439 Speaker 3: bigger favorite than that in general, but doesn't take that 2261 01:51:14,520 --> 01:51:17,519 Speaker 3: many takedowns malex Prez, which could happen. But yeah, I 2262 01:51:17,560 --> 01:51:19,080 Speaker 3: think Charles John's gonna win this one. 2263 01:51:19,200 --> 01:51:22,880 Speaker 2: Michael Johnson's thirty nine, however, three wins in a row 2264 01:51:22,960 --> 01:51:24,400 Speaker 2: if you can believe it, the last of those over 2265 01:51:24,479 --> 01:51:27,000 Speaker 2: Daniel zel Huber, which is a pretty nice one taking 2266 01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:30,559 Speaker 2: on Alexander Hernandez, who himself, by the way, thirty three 2267 01:51:30,680 --> 01:51:32,920 Speaker 2: years of age. Four wins in a row. It's the 2268 01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:36,240 Speaker 2: longest UFC win streak he's had, and some decent names 2269 01:51:36,240 --> 01:51:38,240 Speaker 2: certainly closer to the top of that one, Digo Faherta 2270 01:51:38,280 --> 01:51:41,080 Speaker 2: being the last of those. Love this fight maybe the 2271 01:51:41,080 --> 01:51:43,479 Speaker 2: most interesting fight that's not getting a lot of attention 2272 01:51:44,000 --> 01:51:45,400 Speaker 2: as folks pay attention to the card. 2273 01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:50,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. When we when Long Island and I did no 2274 01:51:50,400 --> 01:51:53,559 Speaker 3: bets barred this week, I was stunned to realize that 2275 01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:56,720 Speaker 3: this is not just like a throwaway light waight fight. 2276 01:51:56,720 --> 01:51:58,800 Speaker 3: It kind of matters like they got two guys on 2277 01:51:58,880 --> 01:52:02,160 Speaker 3: good winning streak, which is insane to think of that 2278 01:52:02,240 --> 01:52:06,480 Speaker 3: for basically either of them, and feels like good matchmaking. 2279 01:52:06,680 --> 01:52:08,840 Speaker 3: So I can think, I think alex is gonna win, 2280 01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:11,720 Speaker 3: but I don't know. I thought daniezelle Heuber would kill 2281 01:52:11,720 --> 01:52:13,479 Speaker 3: Michael Johnson shows what I know. 2282 01:52:13,800 --> 01:52:15,040 Speaker 4: I just want to say a lot of money has 2283 01:52:15,040 --> 01:52:17,240 Speaker 4: obviously come in on Michael Johnson because I don't remember 2284 01:52:17,320 --> 01:52:18,600 Speaker 4: what he was earlier in the week. But I know 2285 01:52:18,640 --> 01:52:21,559 Speaker 4: Alexander Hernandez was like minus one sixty five is he's 2286 01:52:21,560 --> 01:52:24,320 Speaker 4: minus one twenty now Michael Johnson plus one hundred. 2287 01:52:24,400 --> 01:52:31,080 Speaker 2: So interesting. Okay, that is our preview of the card. 2288 01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:34,880 Speaker 2: And with that we now moved to well, bitch, I'll 2289 01:52:34,880 --> 01:52:36,880 Speaker 2: bring Long Yeah skits some bits here. I'll bring in 2290 01:52:37,080 --> 01:52:39,680 Speaker 2: Long Island Luke here, because what I said was when 2291 01:52:39,720 --> 01:52:42,720 Speaker 2: BC left the show, what I said was, you know, listen, Long, 2292 01:52:42,720 --> 01:52:44,200 Speaker 2: Ale's got a lot of ideas. We're just going to 2293 01:52:44,240 --> 01:52:47,639 Speaker 2: turn him loose here. So tell us about your ideas 2294 01:52:47,640 --> 01:52:48,360 Speaker 2: here Long as well. 2295 01:52:48,479 --> 01:52:51,680 Speaker 4: Naturally, naturally I ripped off one of BC's ideas. This 2296 01:52:51,720 --> 01:52:54,920 Speaker 4: will be similar to something we've done Orangetois, which is 2297 01:52:54,960 --> 01:52:58,599 Speaker 4: BC's thing where you rank three random things. This will 2298 01:52:58,680 --> 01:53:01,559 Speaker 4: just be all about's card, though we're gonna call it 2299 01:53:01,800 --> 01:53:05,240 Speaker 4: rank that card. That card. 2300 01:53:08,080 --> 01:53:10,439 Speaker 3: It sucks creative. 2301 01:53:10,560 --> 01:53:14,320 Speaker 4: I don't know who that was, but what a creative name, guys. 2302 01:53:14,360 --> 01:53:17,400 Speaker 4: So first thing ranked that card. Who will be the 2303 01:53:17,400 --> 01:53:20,400 Speaker 4: Brazilian with the best chance to win a UFC title 2304 01:53:20,439 --> 01:53:24,280 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty six, John Silva, Davison Figaredo or Natalias? 2305 01:53:24,360 --> 01:53:28,120 Speaker 4: This is natal who I know Who's third come first, second. 2306 01:53:27,800 --> 01:53:32,719 Speaker 2: Third, Luke Oh Silva one, Natalia Silva. Excuse me, Natalia 2307 01:53:32,760 --> 01:53:35,639 Speaker 2: Silva one. I'll say jay On two because I think 2308 01:53:35,640 --> 01:53:36,599 Speaker 2: Figaredo is. 2309 01:53:38,760 --> 01:53:40,360 Speaker 3: Figi is very obviously. 2310 01:53:40,479 --> 01:53:42,400 Speaker 4: Three is just the third Brazilian. 2311 01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:46,800 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Jean Silva over Natalia Silva because if 2312 01:53:46,800 --> 01:53:49,320 Speaker 3: he beats Nold Allen, they might throw him in there. 2313 01:53:49,479 --> 01:53:52,960 Speaker 3: And I think I kind of think folks are gonna 2314 01:53:52,960 --> 01:53:55,920 Speaker 3: lose to Diego Lopez this time around. But like, even 2315 01:53:55,960 --> 01:53:59,160 Speaker 3: if he's not, he's just he's old, and if Diego 2316 01:53:59,160 --> 01:54:02,120 Speaker 3: fights him again, maybe Jean beats it. Mainly, the idea is, 2317 01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:04,559 Speaker 3: I don't know if you know this, Luke. The current 2318 01:54:04,680 --> 01:54:08,320 Speaker 3: women's flyweight champion is a woman named Valentino Shipchenko. She 2319 01:54:08,360 --> 01:54:10,840 Speaker 3: ever lose, so I'm just not gonna assume that Tali 2320 01:54:10,880 --> 01:54:12,040 Speaker 3: Silva's gonna do that. 2321 01:54:12,040 --> 01:54:12,960 Speaker 4: That's a good point too. 2322 01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:16,479 Speaker 2: They never lose until they do, you understand that. 2323 01:54:16,560 --> 01:54:18,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, but she lost and then she came back and 2324 01:54:18,560 --> 01:54:19,599 Speaker 3: stopped losing again. 2325 01:54:19,640 --> 01:54:24,759 Speaker 4: It's true, all right. Second fighters undefeated in the UFC 2326 01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:29,439 Speaker 4: with the biggest chance of losing tomorrow, Natalia Silva or 2327 01:54:29,479 --> 01:54:31,080 Speaker 4: Patty pimblet. 2328 01:54:31,360 --> 01:54:32,520 Speaker 2: I put Gotier three? 2329 01:54:33,480 --> 01:54:33,959 Speaker 4: Agree? 2330 01:54:34,840 --> 01:54:37,920 Speaker 2: Uh, Pimblet's got to have a bigger chance at losing, 2331 01:54:39,280 --> 01:54:42,680 Speaker 2: so I put him one silva to Gotier three. 2332 01:54:43,440 --> 01:54:46,480 Speaker 3: I mean, odds wise, that's correct. I might flip it 2333 01:54:46,600 --> 01:54:48,560 Speaker 3: just because I think Rose has a really good chance 2334 01:54:48,600 --> 01:54:52,760 Speaker 3: of beating Hutolia, so I think that that is a 2335 01:54:52,800 --> 01:54:56,080 Speaker 3: fight that may line up very well for her. And 2336 01:54:56,960 --> 01:54:59,240 Speaker 3: you know, I'm picking Gai Chee. But in my in 2337 01:54:59,280 --> 01:55:01,480 Speaker 3: my head, I leave Patty has a much better chance 2338 01:55:01,480 --> 01:55:04,160 Speaker 3: of winning that fight, so I think I'd swap them. 2339 01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:06,720 Speaker 3: But you're probably objectively correct. 2340 01:55:07,240 --> 01:55:09,840 Speaker 4: Luca is going by the odds, you know, not purpose. 2341 01:55:09,840 --> 01:55:11,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I wasn't looking at you out on purpose, 2342 01:55:11,640 --> 01:55:11,800 Speaker 2: you know. 2343 01:55:11,800 --> 01:55:14,640 Speaker 4: What I mean? Thirty eight plus year olds who will 2344 01:55:14,680 --> 01:55:18,720 Speaker 4: have more UFC fights after UFC three twenty four Davison FIGUREDO, 2345 01:55:18,840 --> 01:55:21,000 Speaker 4: Derek Lewis, Michael Johnson, Meaning are you. 2346 01:55:21,000 --> 01:55:24,520 Speaker 2: Asking how many fights they would have from after this day? Correct? 2347 01:55:24,600 --> 01:55:26,800 Speaker 4: Not like how many fights they have in their career 2348 01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:30,680 Speaker 4: just after Saturday? Who continues fighting the most after that? 2349 01:55:32,280 --> 01:55:37,320 Speaker 2: I'll say Lewis one. He's the oldest by the way 2350 01:55:37,840 --> 01:55:39,640 Speaker 2: I know, but it's heavyweight, so he's really not. 2351 01:55:40,120 --> 01:55:41,120 Speaker 3: That's a good argument. 2352 01:55:43,640 --> 01:55:46,080 Speaker 2: That's a tough one. After these two. I'm gonna say 2353 01:55:46,400 --> 01:55:49,240 Speaker 2: Johnson too, FIGUREDO three. I actually feel like Figarreedo's gonna 2354 01:55:49,280 --> 01:55:51,640 Speaker 2: like try and linger a little bit, dude. 2355 01:55:51,800 --> 01:55:55,800 Speaker 3: At media day, Figure was like, I'm not close to retiring. Yeah, 2356 01:55:56,160 --> 01:55:58,440 Speaker 3: so I kind of I think I agree? 2357 01:55:58,880 --> 01:56:03,200 Speaker 4: All right? Fair enough? Uh? For fighters whose stock will 2358 01:56:03,280 --> 01:56:06,240 Speaker 4: drop the most with a loss on Saturday, Josh Hokit, 2359 01:56:06,440 --> 01:56:10,000 Speaker 4: Sean O'Malley or Umar Nomaga Medov, who's the most to 2360 01:56:10,080 --> 01:56:11,520 Speaker 4: lose with a loss. 2361 01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:15,040 Speaker 2: Well, it's definitely not hok It. 2362 01:56:15,520 --> 01:56:17,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's number three for sure. 2363 01:56:19,800 --> 01:56:21,800 Speaker 2: I feel like a norma Ga Madov losing in the 2364 01:56:21,880 --> 01:56:23,600 Speaker 2: UFC would be a big fucking deal. 2365 01:56:24,160 --> 01:56:26,440 Speaker 4: And he already has lost to Morob. 2366 01:56:26,720 --> 01:56:30,360 Speaker 2: Okay, I mean yeah, and it was a very competitive, 2367 01:56:30,520 --> 01:56:36,520 Speaker 2: really good fight, but him losing like outside of a 2368 01:56:36,600 --> 01:56:40,440 Speaker 2: title thing would be I mean, that's a top I 2369 01:56:40,480 --> 01:56:42,960 Speaker 2: mean no, it has to be madoff. Sean Omalley is 2370 01:56:42,960 --> 01:56:45,920 Speaker 2: coming off to fucking loss. Here's the thing though, here's 2371 01:56:45,920 --> 01:56:48,320 Speaker 2: the thing we're talking about. Sean O'Malley, Like, oh, here's 2372 01:56:48,320 --> 01:56:51,680 Speaker 2: a chance at resurgence. So if he loses, is his 2373 01:56:51,720 --> 01:56:54,080 Speaker 2: stock going to tank? Because we all thought he had 2374 01:56:54,120 --> 01:56:55,960 Speaker 2: a new lease on life and then that now the 2375 01:56:56,000 --> 01:57:00,360 Speaker 2: bottom gets dropped out on that. That's a question. So 2376 01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:04,640 Speaker 2: I might go, I might go, No, I'm gonna stay. 2377 01:57:04,640 --> 01:57:07,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go number one. O'Malley two, hook a three. 2378 01:57:08,080 --> 01:57:12,040 Speaker 3: Ye, I'm it's nurmi one. Because one people are already 2379 01:57:12,080 --> 01:57:15,000 Speaker 3: ready to bury him, like he he lost to Morob 2380 01:57:15,200 --> 01:57:19,080 Speaker 3: and then the win over Mario Batista was not like thrilling. 2381 01:57:19,680 --> 01:57:22,720 Speaker 3: And if he loses, I think he would be the 2382 01:57:22,840 --> 01:57:26,920 Speaker 3: biggest favorite loss in the history of the UFC, because 2383 01:57:26,920 --> 01:57:31,080 Speaker 3: he's like minus eighteen hundred at places or whatever right now. 2384 01:57:31,120 --> 01:57:33,400 Speaker 3: So I think that would be pretty devastating. 2385 01:57:34,000 --> 01:57:37,480 Speaker 4: True, all right, fair enough? Up next, underdog with the 2386 01:57:37,480 --> 01:57:40,440 Speaker 4: best chance of winning Rose Noamber Unis, Derek Lewis or 2387 01:57:40,560 --> 01:57:41,280 Speaker 4: Arnold Allen. 2388 01:57:42,560 --> 01:57:45,560 Speaker 3: I think Arnold Allen probably has the best chance both 2389 01:57:45,560 --> 01:57:51,880 Speaker 3: odds wise and just like realistically. I'll go, I'll go 2390 01:57:52,120 --> 01:57:53,800 Speaker 3: Arnold Rose, Derek. 2391 01:57:55,080 --> 01:57:55,240 Speaker 4: Lt. 2392 01:57:56,760 --> 01:58:05,720 Speaker 2: Underdog with the best chance of winning. I'll go I think, yeah, yeah, 2393 01:58:05,760 --> 01:58:11,760 Speaker 2: I'll go Derek one. No, I'll go, I'll go in 2394 01:58:11,920 --> 01:58:14,200 Speaker 2: order Rose, Derek Arnold. 2395 01:58:15,200 --> 01:58:16,560 Speaker 4: Okay, so opposite jed. 2396 01:58:18,480 --> 01:58:18,600 Speaker 1: Up. 2397 01:58:18,640 --> 01:58:21,840 Speaker 4: Next former champion with the best chance to regain a 2398 01:58:21,920 --> 01:58:32,600 Speaker 4: title Davidson Figuredo Rose down the Unis or Sean O'Malley. 2399 01:58:27,600 --> 01:58:31,920 Speaker 2: One, yeah, in in reverse order. O'Malley, I'm a unice figure. 2400 01:58:32,960 --> 01:58:34,880 Speaker 4: You guys are so confident. He's still gotta beat Yan 2401 01:58:35,080 --> 01:58:37,400 Speaker 4: or whoever's the champion at that time. You know, like. 2402 01:58:38,960 --> 01:58:41,040 Speaker 2: Has to beat one dude, bro, But like Figaredo had 2403 01:58:41,080 --> 01:58:43,120 Speaker 2: his knee destroyed by sand. 2404 01:58:42,680 --> 01:58:45,200 Speaker 4: Think he were just again. He's just thrown in because 2405 01:58:45,240 --> 01:58:48,520 Speaker 4: he's the only other former champions. But like Rose, Bro, 2406 01:58:48,640 --> 01:58:50,960 Speaker 4: you don't think like all you got to do win 2407 01:58:51,040 --> 01:58:54,000 Speaker 4: tomorrow and then beat Val. That's not that crazy. If 2408 01:58:54,000 --> 01:58:55,640 Speaker 4: she wins tomorrow, I think she's not crazy. 2409 01:58:55,680 --> 01:58:59,280 Speaker 3: But and the beating Val part pretty tough. 2410 01:59:00,240 --> 01:59:02,960 Speaker 2: O'Malley. I know it's controversial, but O'Malley did beat Yan 2411 01:59:04,880 --> 01:59:08,880 Speaker 2: yeah three round five, twenty two, but still all right? 2412 01:59:08,920 --> 01:59:11,960 Speaker 4: All right, up next, we got most entertaining fighter on 2413 01:59:12,040 --> 01:59:14,560 Speaker 4: the car, John Silva, justin Geechee or Derek Lewis. 2414 01:59:15,320 --> 01:59:16,440 Speaker 3: What the fuck are we doing here? Man? 2415 01:59:17,240 --> 01:59:21,200 Speaker 4: I want to be in the cage you get you 2416 01:59:21,200 --> 01:59:22,400 Speaker 4: can factor it all in together. 2417 01:59:22,480 --> 01:59:25,040 Speaker 3: Jeed just engaged most exciting fighters ever fucking lived. 2418 01:59:25,800 --> 01:59:27,040 Speaker 4: All right, well, who's your number two? 2419 01:59:27,800 --> 01:59:28,240 Speaker 2: Uh? 2420 01:59:28,320 --> 01:59:30,680 Speaker 3: John Silva? But if you want to put Derek Luis. 2421 01:59:30,720 --> 01:59:32,400 Speaker 3: That's fine. 2422 01:59:32,480 --> 01:59:35,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, the thing is Silva is very, very fun, but 2423 01:59:35,400 --> 01:59:36,680 Speaker 2: he's a little annoying too. 2424 01:59:37,120 --> 01:59:38,160 Speaker 3: Oh he's super annoying. 2425 01:59:38,280 --> 01:59:41,280 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go gae Chie one Abby, and then 2426 01:59:41,280 --> 01:59:43,360 Speaker 2: I'll go Lewis too and Silva three. 2427 01:59:43,880 --> 01:59:46,840 Speaker 4: All right, all right, up next, we got most likely 2428 01:59:46,880 --> 01:59:50,520 Speaker 4: to avoid a third straight loss. Well, Cameron Smotherman, I mean, 2429 01:59:50,600 --> 01:59:53,120 Speaker 4: I guess he's he's the most likely to avoid a 2430 01:59:53,160 --> 01:59:56,600 Speaker 4: third trip did avoid that? Nikita Krilov or Alex Perez. 2431 01:59:56,640 --> 01:59:57,360 Speaker 4: I guess we'll just. 2432 01:59:57,280 --> 01:59:58,800 Speaker 2: Carez would be one, Krilov two. 2433 01:59:59,600 --> 02:00:03,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with him. I Carlos look so bad lately. 2434 02:00:03,720 --> 02:00:06,400 Speaker 4: See, I'm gonna go opposite on that. I feel like 2435 02:00:07,360 --> 02:00:09,880 Speaker 4: Actually no, I do like Alex present. I don't take 2436 02:00:09,920 --> 02:00:14,520 Speaker 4: that naming duo with the best chance of both fighters winning. 2437 02:00:14,600 --> 02:00:18,040 Speaker 4: So both both Johnson's gonna win, Michael Johnson and Charles Johnson, 2438 02:00:18,400 --> 02:00:22,720 Speaker 4: Alex Perez and Alex Hernandez or John Silva and Natalia Silva. 2439 02:00:23,640 --> 02:00:25,800 Speaker 3: The Silvas have to be number one. 2440 02:00:25,800 --> 02:00:30,440 Speaker 2: I'm the Johnson's who was number one. Yeah, Well, I 2441 02:00:30,440 --> 02:00:32,920 Speaker 2: think Charles Johnson's gonna win outright, and I think Mike's 2442 02:00:32,920 --> 02:00:35,360 Speaker 2: got a pretty good Michael Johnson's got a pretty good chance. 2443 02:00:35,960 --> 02:00:39,840 Speaker 3: It's not crazy. I'm gonna go Silva's. I mean they 2444 02:00:39,840 --> 02:00:44,560 Speaker 3: are both favored to win outright, and you know Johnson's two, 2445 02:00:44,800 --> 02:00:47,520 Speaker 3: the Alex's are certainly third, alright. 2446 02:00:47,480 --> 02:00:50,520 Speaker 4: Fair enough and then last, but not least, most likely 2447 02:00:50,560 --> 02:00:54,680 Speaker 4: to win by finish Medesta spukowskis Tibo Gautier or Johnson. 2448 02:00:54,840 --> 02:00:57,320 Speaker 2: Dude, they might put handcuffs on Gotier after he sends 2449 02:00:57,320 --> 02:00:59,959 Speaker 2: that motherfucker's head into orbit. I mean, what are we talking. 2450 02:00:59,720 --> 02:01:01,800 Speaker 3: About, number one? 2451 02:01:02,480 --> 02:01:04,960 Speaker 4: Because probably because I bet the under one and a half, 2452 02:01:05,000 --> 02:01:07,120 Speaker 4: I bet caught by ko all this ship. I have 2453 02:01:07,200 --> 02:01:08,880 Speaker 4: such a feeling that fight's going to go the distance 2454 02:01:08,920 --> 02:01:10,640 Speaker 4: and he's gonna like lose and we're all going to 2455 02:01:10,680 --> 02:01:12,800 Speaker 4: be so I'm getting like Malcolm well Maker. 2456 02:01:12,960 --> 02:01:15,240 Speaker 2: I'll be honest, I'm a little bit on Yeah, it's 2457 02:01:15,240 --> 02:01:16,720 Speaker 2: a fair point you bring up. I'm a little bit 2458 02:01:16,760 --> 02:01:20,040 Speaker 2: on autopilot in terms of like my support for him. Yeah, 2459 02:01:20,080 --> 02:01:21,080 Speaker 2: you could be right, you could be. 2460 02:01:21,160 --> 02:01:22,720 Speaker 3: Right fine to be an autopilot there. 2461 02:01:22,760 --> 02:01:25,440 Speaker 4: But who you guys got two and three here? John silver. 2462 02:01:26,840 --> 02:01:31,720 Speaker 3: Bukowskis, Arnold's never been stopped, and uh nik K has 2463 02:01:31,720 --> 02:01:32,520 Speaker 3: been stopped a lot. 2464 02:01:32,840 --> 02:01:35,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Krilov is a dunk, so bis got to be 2465 02:01:35,480 --> 02:01:36,480 Speaker 2: two silver, three. 2466 02:01:36,480 --> 02:01:38,680 Speaker 4: All right, all right, Well that does it for that guys. 2467 02:01:38,720 --> 02:01:39,720 Speaker 4: That was rank that card. 2468 02:01:39,760 --> 02:01:40,040 Speaker 2: All right. 2469 02:01:41,080 --> 02:01:42,600 Speaker 4: We could do that for every card if we want, 2470 02:01:42,600 --> 02:01:44,760 Speaker 4: you know, if we got ship to do. But next 2471 02:01:44,800 --> 02:01:46,200 Speaker 4: up is going to be a segment that we've kind 2472 02:01:46,200 --> 02:01:48,640 Speaker 4: of been workshopping. There's a few different ideas for it. 2473 02:01:49,160 --> 02:01:51,680 Speaker 4: And one of the ideas our producer Matt Snyder came 2474 02:01:51,760 --> 02:01:55,040 Speaker 4: up with, which was essentially putting two fighters names or 2475 02:01:55,080 --> 02:01:58,360 Speaker 4: figures in combat sports into like chat GBT or an 2476 02:01:58,360 --> 02:02:02,200 Speaker 4: AI generator, and then it's spit out a dialogue between 2477 02:02:02,240 --> 02:02:05,560 Speaker 4: these two people. So we haven't told Luke or Jed 2478 02:02:05,640 --> 02:02:08,680 Speaker 4: who these two people are. They're going to read line 2479 02:02:08,720 --> 02:02:11,760 Speaker 4: for line for these people and then try and figure 2480 02:02:11,760 --> 02:02:14,360 Speaker 4: out who they're speaking on behalf of. So this is 2481 02:02:14,400 --> 02:02:15,680 Speaker 4: called m m AI. 2482 02:02:22,760 --> 02:02:25,400 Speaker 2: Okay, this is a weird one. So how do I 2483 02:02:25,440 --> 02:02:25,800 Speaker 2: do this? 2484 02:02:27,560 --> 02:02:31,080 Speaker 4: I just read a A and I just start reading 2485 02:02:31,120 --> 02:02:31,879 Speaker 4: it and say. 2486 02:02:31,760 --> 02:02:33,680 Speaker 2: Here we go, Jed, ready, ready, here we go. 2487 02:02:34,040 --> 02:02:35,160 Speaker 3: Let's get trying stuff. 2488 02:02:35,320 --> 02:02:38,640 Speaker 2: We're trying stuff here. I just wanted to clear the air. 2489 02:02:39,000 --> 02:02:42,160 Speaker 2: I know I've made some declaratives and the timing of 2490 02:02:42,200 --> 02:02:50,680 Speaker 2: everything may appear convenient. Okay, that wasn't about fear or avoidance. 2491 02:02:50,760 --> 02:02:53,120 Speaker 2: It was about timing. And since then, I've been doing 2492 02:02:53,160 --> 02:02:55,800 Speaker 2: a lot of reflecting, and I recognize that I may 2493 02:02:55,840 --> 02:02:58,400 Speaker 2: have had things more complicated than they needed to be. 2494 02:03:00,200 --> 02:03:00,640 Speaker 3: Huh. 2495 02:03:01,480 --> 02:03:06,080 Speaker 2: I want to be clear. I'm not done. I'm just selective. 2496 02:03:08,160 --> 02:03:09,960 Speaker 3: So what do you want? 2497 02:03:10,680 --> 02:03:11,920 Speaker 2: You know what I want? 2498 02:03:13,120 --> 02:03:15,000 Speaker 3: Well, you know, I got to drag this out as 2499 02:03:15,000 --> 02:03:15,840 Speaker 3: long as I can. 2500 02:03:16,040 --> 02:03:19,240 Speaker 2: Right, I'll take whatever you give me except for that 2501 02:03:19,320 --> 02:03:21,000 Speaker 2: one guy. I won't take. 2502 02:03:22,160 --> 02:03:27,240 Speaker 4: What the fuck is And I can give you guys hints. 2503 02:03:27,400 --> 02:03:29,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, am I iliot ta Poria? 2504 02:03:30,120 --> 02:03:33,480 Speaker 4: You are not Iliopia? Uh? 2505 02:03:34,480 --> 02:03:37,440 Speaker 3: Is Luke? John Jones? Yes? 2506 02:03:39,120 --> 02:03:41,560 Speaker 4: Lt was John Jones and Jed Do you know who 2507 02:03:41,600 --> 02:03:41,960 Speaker 4: you were? 2508 02:03:43,200 --> 02:03:45,080 Speaker 3: I'm assuming Dana White. 2509 02:03:44,840 --> 02:03:47,240 Speaker 4: Correct Jed. I'm impressed. 2510 02:03:47,280 --> 02:03:52,160 Speaker 3: All right, I'll be totally honest. I was completely lost 2511 02:03:52,360 --> 02:03:54,880 Speaker 3: until the I'll take whatever you give me, except that 2512 02:03:54,880 --> 02:03:56,720 Speaker 3: one guy. I was like, that sounds a lot like 2513 02:03:56,800 --> 02:03:57,640 Speaker 3: John Jones to me. 2514 02:03:59,000 --> 02:04:01,760 Speaker 2: Right, you know what Eliott was playing like, I'm not 2515 02:04:01,760 --> 02:04:03,240 Speaker 2: gonna fight this guy. I'm not gonna fight that guy. 2516 02:04:03,240 --> 02:04:05,160 Speaker 2: That's why I thought, all right, here we go. This 2517 02:04:05,240 --> 02:04:08,440 Speaker 2: is number two. All right, Well that was fun. 2518 02:04:09,560 --> 02:04:13,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, great time, appreciate you coming on it flew by. 2519 02:04:14,240 --> 02:04:17,600 Speaker 3: Hey can I tell you something something important? 2520 02:04:18,000 --> 02:04:23,160 Speaker 2: Sure? Yeah, of course, keep this between us. Okay, you 2521 02:04:23,240 --> 02:04:24,240 Speaker 2: have my word. 2522 02:04:28,160 --> 02:04:29,960 Speaker 3: Do you know that m M A is high level 2523 02:04:30,000 --> 02:04:32,960 Speaker 3: problem solving with dire physical consequences? 2524 02:04:33,080 --> 02:04:38,280 Speaker 2: Okay, so you're obviously Joe Rogan, right, yes, okay, and 2525 02:04:38,440 --> 02:04:41,680 Speaker 2: I am. 2526 02:04:41,840 --> 02:04:42,920 Speaker 3: I have no idea who you are? 2527 02:04:43,040 --> 02:04:43,160 Speaker 4: Who? 2528 02:04:43,240 --> 02:04:44,840 Speaker 3: The Rogan thing was a great bit. 2529 02:04:47,480 --> 02:04:51,080 Speaker 4: Anybody you are you Luke, It's what said to you 2530 02:04:51,240 --> 02:04:52,760 Speaker 4: after your podcast together. 2531 02:04:53,080 --> 02:04:55,040 Speaker 2: The problem with mine in this case was it's so 2532 02:04:55,240 --> 02:04:57,160 Speaker 2: generic that it's really hard to Yeah. 2533 02:04:57,000 --> 02:04:58,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was tough. 2534 02:04:58,200 --> 02:05:01,840 Speaker 3: But but the dude, the chat has been begging for 2535 02:05:01,880 --> 02:05:04,400 Speaker 3: you to give what happened, and now they know. Now 2536 02:05:04,480 --> 02:05:06,200 Speaker 3: they know what happened after the Rogan piety. 2537 02:05:06,280 --> 02:05:08,440 Speaker 2: It wasn't like that. It wasn't like that. All right, 2538 02:05:08,440 --> 02:05:11,920 Speaker 2: here we go. Number three? Uh oh wow, long time, 2539 02:05:12,040 --> 02:05:15,520 Speaker 2: huh yeah, good to see you. Kind of crazy how 2540 02:05:15,600 --> 02:05:19,720 Speaker 2: things circle back in this sport, They sure do. It's 2541 02:05:19,720 --> 02:05:21,400 Speaker 2: been how long since we fought? 2542 02:05:22,600 --> 02:05:29,200 Speaker 3: Sixteen hundred and fifty eight days? Awkward silence, keep going, Oh, 2543 02:05:29,280 --> 02:05:31,320 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I never forgot what you said to me. 2544 02:05:33,080 --> 02:05:39,440 Speaker 2: I think about it a lot. Is it? Uh? Is 2545 02:05:39,440 --> 02:05:46,520 Speaker 2: it uh? Who had a fight? Oh? Is it? 2546 02:05:47,920 --> 02:05:50,280 Speaker 4: My hint to you is it's not someone who's currently 2547 02:05:50,320 --> 02:05:52,320 Speaker 4: scheduled for a rematch. I feel like it kind of 2548 02:05:52,360 --> 02:05:55,400 Speaker 4: implies that in the dialogue, like they're they're reminiscing like 2549 02:05:55,400 --> 02:05:58,000 Speaker 4: they're going to fight again, but they're just reminiscing on 2550 02:05:58,040 --> 02:05:59,080 Speaker 4: the first time they thought. 2551 02:06:00,240 --> 02:06:02,880 Speaker 2: Is it Nunez and Chivchenko or something? 2552 02:06:03,760 --> 02:06:05,640 Speaker 4: No, Jad, you have any guesses. 2553 02:06:06,200 --> 02:06:07,800 Speaker 2: Who had a big break between their fights. 2554 02:06:08,720 --> 02:06:11,320 Speaker 4: Again, it's not a break between fights. It's just they're 2555 02:06:11,360 --> 02:06:13,960 Speaker 4: reminiscing on the one time they fought, which just happens. 2556 02:06:15,080 --> 02:06:16,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I had nothing on this. 2557 02:06:16,840 --> 02:06:17,720 Speaker 2: This is too generic. 2558 02:06:18,080 --> 02:06:21,400 Speaker 4: It's tough. It's a Greg Hardy and Tai to Avasa. 2559 02:06:21,520 --> 02:06:23,880 Speaker 4: Reflecting on their intimate words exchanged. 2560 02:06:24,800 --> 02:06:25,960 Speaker 3: We were definitely gonna get that. 2561 02:06:26,320 --> 02:06:28,440 Speaker 2: They should have had something about them having sex, because 2562 02:06:28,440 --> 02:06:29,480 Speaker 2: that would have been the giveaway. 2563 02:06:29,520 --> 02:06:31,560 Speaker 4: All right, Well, I mean LT the next one is 2564 02:06:31,600 --> 02:06:33,520 Speaker 4: a solo read for you. So my hint for you 2565 02:06:33,640 --> 02:06:36,400 Speaker 4: before you read it is you're a combat sports figure 2566 02:06:36,720 --> 02:06:39,160 Speaker 4: endorsing a product. So those are going to be the 2567 02:06:39,160 --> 02:06:41,800 Speaker 4: two guesses. Guess the product, and guess who you are. 2568 02:06:41,960 --> 02:06:44,640 Speaker 2: Okay, here we go. This podcast is brought to you 2569 02:06:44,680 --> 02:06:49,040 Speaker 2: by Focus, not the app, the feeling. I've been experimenting 2570 02:06:49,120 --> 02:06:52,960 Speaker 2: with a more direct approach to productivity, less meditation, more momentum. 2571 02:06:53,360 --> 02:06:56,480 Speaker 2: You don't need instructions, you just need confidence and curiosity. 2572 02:06:57,000 --> 02:06:59,960 Speaker 2: Is it legal? I'm not really sure anymore? Is it natural? 2573 02:07:00,400 --> 02:07:04,440 Speaker 2: Well emotionally yes? Anyway, if you're tired of slow mornings 2574 02:07:04,480 --> 02:07:08,360 Speaker 2: and moral hesitations, maybe wellness isn't about less, Maybe it's 2575 02:07:08,400 --> 02:07:20,800 Speaker 2: about more. Am I Dana White? No, Jed, am I Chail? 2576 02:07:21,360 --> 02:07:24,840 Speaker 3: Is this Sean o'malen his more well? Whatever the hell 2577 02:07:24,920 --> 02:07:26,120 Speaker 3: thing he's been pumping out. 2578 02:07:26,480 --> 02:07:29,760 Speaker 4: It was Craig Jones endorsing cocaine. 2579 02:07:30,120 --> 02:07:35,200 Speaker 3: Oh, very wellness focused. 2580 02:07:36,520 --> 02:07:38,560 Speaker 2: Right, So now that we know that this product, this 2581 02:07:38,640 --> 02:07:40,680 Speaker 2: podcast is brought to you by Focus, not the app 2582 02:07:40,760 --> 02:07:43,400 Speaker 2: the feeling. I've been experimenting with a more direct approach 2583 02:07:43,440 --> 02:07:47,400 Speaker 2: to productivity, less meditation, more momentum. You don't need instructions, 2584 02:07:47,440 --> 02:07:49,800 Speaker 2: you just need confidence and curiosity. Is it legal? I'm 2585 02:07:49,840 --> 02:07:54,400 Speaker 2: not really sure anymore. Is it natural emotionally yes? That's hilarious. Okay, 2586 02:07:54,480 --> 02:07:54,760 Speaker 2: very good. 2587 02:07:54,800 --> 02:07:56,320 Speaker 4: All right, Wait, and we got to give you a 2588 02:07:56,400 --> 02:07:58,120 Speaker 4: hint on the last one too, because it's tough. It's 2589 02:07:58,160 --> 02:08:01,720 Speaker 4: a media member and someone close to them. 2590 02:08:02,760 --> 02:08:06,960 Speaker 2: Okay, here we go, jed you ready, I've been watching? Yeah, 2591 02:08:07,400 --> 02:08:12,240 Speaker 2: what do you think? They were? Fine? Like technically fine, 2592 02:08:12,360 --> 02:08:14,920 Speaker 2: very professional? But is a certain warmth missing? 2593 02:08:15,720 --> 02:08:16,640 Speaker 3: They seem happy? 2594 02:08:17,720 --> 02:08:18,280 Speaker 2: Give a time. 2595 02:08:21,600 --> 02:08:22,400 Speaker 3: I have a theory. 2596 02:08:22,720 --> 02:08:23,480 Speaker 2: Okay, what is it? 2597 02:08:24,320 --> 02:08:28,560 Speaker 3: I I'm not entirely sure who the people discussing are, 2598 02:08:28,600 --> 02:08:32,080 Speaker 3: but I feel like maybe it's uh, I'm trying to 2599 02:08:32,080 --> 02:08:36,080 Speaker 3: think who this might be. Is this is this discussing 2600 02:08:36,320 --> 02:08:39,360 Speaker 3: the the the MK changes without Brian Campbell? 2601 02:08:40,520 --> 02:08:43,920 Speaker 4: You're you're yes, it's discussing m K two point zero. 2602 02:08:45,680 --> 02:08:47,480 Speaker 3: Then who would the people be though? 2603 02:08:50,080 --> 02:08:50,680 Speaker 2: The donks? 2604 02:08:51,920 --> 02:08:54,360 Speaker 3: No, dude, the donks wouldn't use a word like professional. 2605 02:08:54,440 --> 02:08:58,040 Speaker 3: Come on, what the fuck are you talking about? There's 2606 02:08:58,080 --> 02:09:00,800 Speaker 3: a certain warmth missing. Do you think that sentence has 2607 02:09:00,800 --> 02:09:05,520 Speaker 3: ever been put in your chat? 2608 02:09:06,280 --> 02:09:09,520 Speaker 2: I don't, I don't know. I mean, is it. 2609 02:09:09,440 --> 02:09:14,120 Speaker 3: Brian Campbell talking to you Long Island Luke about what's 2610 02:09:14,200 --> 02:09:15,520 Speaker 3: what's his absence? 2611 02:09:15,720 --> 02:09:18,440 Speaker 4: You're very close, You're fifty percent there, and it's it's 2612 02:09:18,480 --> 02:09:22,240 Speaker 4: probably just too hard, but you are Brian Campbell talking 2613 02:09:22,280 --> 02:09:23,920 Speaker 4: to his wife about the. 2614 02:09:23,840 --> 02:09:24,440 Speaker 2: New m K. 2615 02:09:25,400 --> 02:09:26,120 Speaker 3: I was really close. 2616 02:09:26,200 --> 02:09:28,680 Speaker 2: Then I like this segment it needs a little work. 2617 02:09:28,880 --> 02:09:30,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, needs a little work. 2618 02:09:31,480 --> 02:09:33,360 Speaker 4: I didn't I didn't even know if it was gonna go. 2619 02:09:33,400 --> 02:09:35,200 Speaker 4: It's god, you know, Jed guess the first one. I 2620 02:09:35,240 --> 02:09:36,800 Speaker 4: was like, oh, all right, this is going great. 2621 02:09:36,880 --> 02:09:40,720 Speaker 3: But I think there's I think there's some juice to 2622 02:09:40,760 --> 02:09:43,520 Speaker 3: this segment. It but it you know, maybe some more 2623 02:09:43,560 --> 02:09:44,600 Speaker 3: AI prompt work. 2624 02:09:45,280 --> 02:09:48,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the prompting needs a little help, but 2625 02:09:48,360 --> 02:09:49,880 Speaker 2: not not not bad, not bad for the Verson one, 2626 02:09:49,920 --> 02:09:51,920 Speaker 2: well done, Long Island. I appreciate these two segments. Thank 2627 02:09:51,960 --> 02:09:52,600 Speaker 2: you very much. 2628 02:09:52,880 --> 02:09:54,720 Speaker 4: Arnold was all mad. You gotta give Snyder credit for 2629 02:09:54,720 --> 02:09:54,960 Speaker 4: that one. 2630 02:09:54,960 --> 02:09:58,640 Speaker 2: Oh, fair enough. Yeah, we'll give it to Snyder verse. Uh, Jed, 2631 02:09:58,880 --> 02:10:00,920 Speaker 2: thank you so much for joining me. Watch tell folks 2632 02:10:00,960 --> 02:10:03,200 Speaker 2: what you've got going on for coverage as it pertains 2633 02:10:03,200 --> 02:10:04,600 Speaker 2: to UFC three twenty four. 2634 02:10:05,320 --> 02:10:07,200 Speaker 3: We've got a preview show coming up in a couple 2635 02:10:07,240 --> 02:10:10,360 Speaker 3: hours at inmayfind dot com YouTube. Most of you donks 2636 02:10:10,400 --> 02:10:12,920 Speaker 3: in the chat are already over there or we'll be 2637 02:10:12,960 --> 02:10:15,440 Speaker 3: over there, but if you're not, come join us. 2638 02:10:15,680 --> 02:10:15,800 Speaker 1: Uh. 2639 02:10:16,800 --> 02:10:19,640 Speaker 3: Traditional coverage Josey Young's Boots on the Ground in Vegas 2640 02:10:19,720 --> 02:10:22,360 Speaker 3: right now, you know, all that same stuff, and a 2641 02:10:22,400 --> 02:10:25,760 Speaker 3: watch party tomorrow night at the MMA Fighting YouTube as well. 2642 02:10:25,840 --> 02:10:28,720 Speaker 3: So hop on in. We're going early, We're going We're 2643 02:10:28,800 --> 02:10:30,760 Speaker 3: kicking things off right at the start of the middle 2644 02:10:30,760 --> 02:10:35,800 Speaker 3: prelim section. Should be fun, mess around, watch some fistfights. 2645 02:10:36,040 --> 02:10:38,200 Speaker 2: All right, very good for me. A couple of things. 2646 02:10:38,200 --> 02:10:40,240 Speaker 2: I want to sort of let everyone know I'm going 2647 02:10:40,320 --> 02:10:42,120 Speaker 2: to be watching and do a full main card watch 2648 02:10:42,160 --> 02:10:44,440 Speaker 2: along on my YouTube channel, plus a post fight show, 2649 02:10:44,520 --> 02:10:47,400 Speaker 2: and then right after this MK you can join me 2650 02:10:47,440 --> 02:10:49,440 Speaker 2: if you are on my substack and I'm going to 2651 02:10:49,520 --> 02:10:53,040 Speaker 2: do a Patty the Battie tape study, a live tape study, 2652 02:10:53,040 --> 02:10:55,600 Speaker 2: you can join me right after this show for that. 2653 02:10:55,600 --> 02:10:57,320 Speaker 2: That should be a lot of fun. And then catch 2654 02:10:57,360 --> 02:10:59,520 Speaker 2: me tomorrow on my YouTube channel, YouTube dot com, slash 2655 02:10:59,600 --> 02:11:02,120 Speaker 2: loop tom us for a full main card watch along 2656 02:11:02,200 --> 02:11:05,080 Speaker 2: and then a post fight show. Long Alan, what do 2657 02:11:05,080 --> 02:11:05,720 Speaker 2: you have going on? 2658 02:11:06,840 --> 02:11:09,720 Speaker 4: I got Jose Young's versus GAF Pierre Aaron in fifteen 2659 02:11:09,760 --> 02:11:12,680 Speaker 4: minutes over on main carmin at YouTube prop Quiz doing 2660 02:11:12,720 --> 02:11:15,839 Speaker 4: a full card watch along tomorrow even the early prelims 2661 02:11:15,840 --> 02:11:20,480 Speaker 4: come on, Jeed Stepy game up five pm starts I'll 2662 02:11:20,480 --> 02:11:22,880 Speaker 4: see you guys then and yeah, I guess that's it 2663 02:11:22,920 --> 02:11:23,120 Speaker 4: for me. 2664 02:11:23,640 --> 02:11:26,000 Speaker 2: There it is, Jed, thank you so much for joining 2665 02:11:26,040 --> 02:11:28,480 Speaker 2: me here. I really appreciate it. We'll get you, We'll 2666 02:11:28,480 --> 02:11:30,440 Speaker 2: get you in studio here very soon. We'll do some 2667 02:11:30,600 --> 02:11:33,680 Speaker 2: drinking with our good friends at Quervo and it'll be 2668 02:11:33,720 --> 02:11:34,240 Speaker 2: a lot of fun. 2669 02:11:34,320 --> 02:11:38,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, that sounds terrific. I look, if you know, eagle 2670 02:11:38,960 --> 02:11:41,800 Speaker 3: eyed people can see over my shoulder. I got beef 2671 02:11:41,840 --> 02:11:44,280 Speaker 3: with Mendenhall, so we can settle it. 2672 02:11:45,080 --> 02:11:46,400 Speaker 2: Very good. I look forward to seeing. 2673 02:11:46,160 --> 02:11:48,320 Speaker 3: It, not fistfighting. I don't think i'd feel very well 2674 02:11:48,320 --> 02:11:50,360 Speaker 3: in that either way. 2675 02:11:50,400 --> 02:11:52,480 Speaker 2: I look forward to seeing it. One more reminder on 2676 02:11:52,520 --> 02:11:55,680 Speaker 2: our Merch Morningcombat Dot shop you can go get the 2677 02:11:55,720 --> 02:11:58,040 Speaker 2: posters will sold out as we're told, but the Stranger 2678 02:11:58,120 --> 02:12:01,160 Speaker 2: Danger shirts are still available for the rest of this month. 2679 02:12:01,200 --> 02:12:03,960 Speaker 2: We are out of here today, boys and girls, ladies 2680 02:12:04,000 --> 02:12:07,640 Speaker 2: and gentlemen, children of all ages. The fights are back. Congratulations. 2681 02:12:07,840 --> 02:12:09,800 Speaker 2: Let's have a good time. Watch Zuva Boxing tonight and 2682 02:12:09,840 --> 02:12:11,720 Speaker 2: then of course UFC through twenty four and we're going 2683 02:12:11,760 --> 02:12:14,160 Speaker 2: to react to all of it on Monday's MK. Thank 2684 02:12:14,200 --> 02:12:16,080 Speaker 2: you so much for watching it for Jed I'm Luke 2685 02:12:16,360 --> 02:12:18,600 Speaker 2: and Long Island Luke as well. Until next time, may 2686 02:12:18,640 --> 02:12:20,240 Speaker 2: all of your gains be loyal