1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 1: This is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: room for insder news and draft analysis from deep within 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: the confines of Cowboys headquarters at the Star Infrasco. Now 7 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: your hosts Botch Lombardi, Nick Harris, Bobby Belt, Tommy Yarish 8 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: and Kyle Yeomans. 9 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 3: Today is Friday, February twenty seventh. That is the final 10 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 3: day of Radio Row here at the NFL Combine in Indianapolis, Indiana. 11 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 3: Welcome into the Draft Show, presented by Miller Light, the 12 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 3: only beer of the Dallas Cowboys. We are fifty five 13 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 3: days away from the NFL Draft in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Alongside 14 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,639 Speaker 3: Nick Harris, Tommy Yarish, I'm Kyle Yeomans. 15 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: Guys. 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 3: We've now seen the beginning of the Combine on field workouts. 17 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 3: We've talked to the players, we've gotten the measurements. We're 18 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 3: starting to maneuver through a lot of these position groups. 19 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 3: But last night the Front seven took center stage at 20 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 3: Lucas Oil Stadium, first opportunity to really see what the 21 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: Combine's about and just like we anticipated. There were some 22 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 3: storylines and maybe even some Cowboys specific storylines that are 23 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 3: moving and shaking just over the last twenty four hours. 24 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I tweeted it last night, so Sunny Styles ain't 25 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 4: getting the twelve hate to break it. Yeah, what a 26 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 4: phenomenal combine effort from Sunny Styles. I mean, whether it 27 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 4: be having the second fastest forty yard dash well tied 28 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 4: for the first actually with his teammate R. L. Reese, 29 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,559 Speaker 4: and did the forty three and a half vert jump 30 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 4: at six foot five, Like, oh my god. I mean, 31 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 4: we knew he was freaky, we didn't know he was 32 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 4: this freaky. I can't speak for you guys, but I 33 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 4: was blown away. Even with high expectations for Sunny Styles, 34 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 4: he has certainly stole. He certainly stole the show on 35 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 4: day one. But I do think there are some fascinating 36 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 4: topics that are happening that potentially could slide some intriguing 37 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 4: definders to twelve. But nevertheless, it was a good front 38 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 4: seven day to get a good look on a lot 39 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 4: of these guys. 40 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 5: Yeah. 41 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 6: Styles being two and a half inches higher on the 42 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 6: vertical jump than anybody else is unbelievable. So that obviously 43 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 6: stole the show. But you know, I think a lot 44 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 6: of other guys that we've talked about. Arville Reese was fantastic. 45 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 6: He's the one who tied styles for that fastest forty time. 46 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 5: He was great. David Bailey four point five. 47 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 6: I mean, I've told you guys how much I love Bailey, 48 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 6: and I think he cemented himself up top there last night. 49 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 6: One guy that we talked about a little bit at 50 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 6: the Senior Bowl, he was one of the stars. Kyle Lewis, 51 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 6: the linebacker from pitt. I thought he had a really 52 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 6: good day and I thought his testing numbers were really good. 53 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 6: So I think that's one where he's kind of cemented himself. 54 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 6: And I know you said this too, Nick, I think 55 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 6: he's kind of cemented himself. And now the day two conversation, 56 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 6: whereas maybe earlier on in the process he was looked 57 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 6: at as a guy who maybe you could pick. 58 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 5: Up on day three. 59 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, when I was looking at a guy going into 60 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 4: Senior Bowl that I needed to frush up on, Kyle 61 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 4: Lewis was certainly one of them. And I put midday 62 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 4: three and I tweeted I had tweeted out earlier. I said, 63 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 4: I don't think anyone has improved their stock hearing this 64 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 4: draft process more than Kyle Lewis, because now you go 65 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 4: back to the film with this data, and this is 66 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 4: what we talk about. 67 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 7: Acquiring the data, because the data is really important. 68 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 4: You see what he does in mobile, you see how 69 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 4: he tests, and then you go back and you combine 70 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 4: that with the production and the tape and it's like, damn, 71 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 4: this is actually a really good football player that I 72 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 4: kind of just glanced over as I was going through 73 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 4: my Senior Bowl stuff. And that's that could be said 74 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 4: for every team as well. Scouts miss on guys. That's 75 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 4: how you know all pros end up being undrafted and 76 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 4: things as such. But Kyle Lewis is certainly stamping his name, 77 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 4: and yeah, he's a Round two player now in my opinion. 78 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 3: That's that conversation that we had yesterday with Bobby talking 79 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 3: about what Will McClay said on the fan about how 80 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 3: trades get people in trouble. Also, overlooking certain traits can 81 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 3: get you in trouble if it's a guy like that. 82 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 3: And maybe the traits aren't as apparent in his college tape, 83 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 3: but when you put him in those environments like the 84 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 3: Senior Bowl and the combine and he shows out. It 85 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 3: does provide an extra layer there for teams to scout through. 86 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 3: I want to keep back at the Sunny Styles conversation 87 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 3: because it happens every year and they're the first day 88 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 3: to go, right, the first group to go where there's 89 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: guys that are going to steal the show with the combine, 90 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: and everybody was kind of waiting and anticipating what he 91 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 3: was going to do. Anyways on nine one at at 92 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 3: Lucas Oil Stadium. So then you turn around as the 93 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 3: week goes on, is it possible that other individuals can 94 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 3: overtake what Sonny Styles did and maybe he ends up 95 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 3: still finding his way. 96 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 2: Maybe I'm just trying to be optimist. 97 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 7: I think you are. 98 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 2: Maybe I was just trying to talk myself into it. 99 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 7: I don't think he's getting out of the top five now. 100 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 2: Top five, top five, So does that mean Rvel Reese falls. 101 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 7: I don't think he's getting out of the top five. 102 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 2: How many five top five picks can we have? 103 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're this is just even guys that 104 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 3: are making it outside of the top five. 105 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 4: This is my current day prediction. I think you're going 106 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 4: to see obviously Fernando Mendoza. You're going to see Rvel Reese, Sonny, 107 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 4: and I think you could even see Cardell Tate. I 108 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 4: think you could see three Ohio State guys in the 109 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 4: top four right there. Yes, before we even get to 110 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 4: Caleb Downs, you could have four Ohio State guys in 111 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 4: the top five. 112 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 7: I think that is a realistic scenario. 113 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 4: But like we've talked about on the show, though, there 114 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 4: are going to be so many different scenarios for after 115 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 4: pick one. Last year we were talking about, hey, the 116 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 4: draft really starts to like pick seven. You know, the 117 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 4: top six are pretty much determined. Same could have been 118 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 4: said for the year prior. I feel like it stretched 119 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 4: to like pick eight. This year, it's pick one, and 120 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 4: I think by the time we get to draft we'll 121 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 4: probably have pick three. But still the draft is gonna 122 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 4: start really early on in this one, and there's gonna 123 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 4: be so many different scenarios that could play out. But 124 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 4: I think one of those likely scenarios is that all 125 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 4: these Ohio State guys come off the board really quick. 126 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 6: And that's important why it's a reason why you have 127 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 6: to be super thorough in your research on all these players, 128 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 6: because if that's the case if you have nine spots 129 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 6: in front of you where you have no idea what's 130 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 6: gonna happen, you could end up with We've seen the 131 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 6: time and time again where you look at the board 132 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 6: and you're like, hey, how is this guy sliding? If 133 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 6: it's a ruben Bain this time around, if teams are 134 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 6: worried about his arm length, or what if it's a 135 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 6: man's sword delaye. If he didn't measure well or if 136 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 6: he doesn't test well, how are teams going to react 137 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 6: to that? So that's why it's important in this class 138 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 6: more than ever to make sure that you've got all 139 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 6: your piece and q's and dot your all your eyes 140 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 6: and t's, whatever the sayings are for that, and and 141 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 6: make sure that everything that you have gives you confidence 142 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 6: that your guy that you get at twelve is there. 143 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 6: But be prepared for whatever situation arises. 144 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, we do have months or Delayne's measurements that have 145 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 4: come through. I say that five eleven and six eighths 146 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 4: came in heighwise, we expected him to come under six foot. 147 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,799 Speaker 4: I think we talked about that yesterday one eighty seven. 148 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 4: I would like him to bulk up to a little light, Yeah, 149 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 4: because he he has the versatility, he can be a 150 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 4: nickel guy. And I think again, I still think he 151 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 4: can make sense for twelve, but I would like to 152 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 4: see him add a little thickness arm Ling. 153 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got the. 154 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 8: You know. 155 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 2: I mean, there's I agree with you. I think, especially 156 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 2: if he's. 157 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 3: Going to have boundary possibilities to the insides and outsides, 158 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 3: you need some level of versatility and physicality there. 159 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: But yeah, that's interesting. 160 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 3: And he'll take the field tonight, right, the defensive backs 161 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 3: for tonight. 162 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, and Monster Delaine needs to come in around four 163 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 4: four eight for him to see his stock kind of 164 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 4: stay consistent. If you're a Cowboys fan and you're a 165 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 4: huge Monster Ter Delaine fan, and it doesn't matter if 166 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 4: he runs a four four eight or a four nine 167 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 4: to you, then you need to be rooting for that 168 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 4: four nine because I do think there is a scenario 169 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 4: where he does not test well and I said this 170 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 4: yesterday and he slips into the teens, maybe even a twenty. 171 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 3: There's another gentleman out of the linebacker group that I 172 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 3: think surprised a lot of people and maybe made himself 173 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 3: some money last night because it shows that one of 174 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 3: the conversations around him that was a knock might be 175 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 3: just a conversation. 176 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 2: That's it is. Jacob Rodriguez. 177 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, the athleticism that he showed yesterday, he had the 178 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 3: top three cone out of all linebackers at a six 179 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 3: nine flat. He had the top linebackers short shuttle tied 180 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 3: with Jack Kelly at. 181 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 2: A four to one nine. Uh. 182 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 3: He was top six seven in the official linebacker forties. 183 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 2: I mean he was. 184 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 5: He was up there as well. 185 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 3: He went ran a four to five seven. I mean, 186 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 3: what did you take away from what he brings you 187 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 3: from an athleticism standpoint now to pair with the game 188 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 3: breaking tape and then a phenomenal Senior Bowl Week two? 189 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 6: Well, I think what we had talked about, and I'll 190 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 6: take ownership for this too, is that when I watched Rodriguez, 191 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 6: I'm like, I don't know if he's gonna hang athletically. Well, 192 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 6: now he goes out and does this, and I got it. 193 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 6: I got a question in my eyes, like do I 194 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 6: need to go back and rewatch and see, Okay, was 195 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 6: it really that much that noticeable or was that just 196 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 6: kind of a widespread knock on him? And And when 197 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 6: I watched it, I did think that, Okay, maybe he's 198 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 6: a little bit slow here, but what he was so 199 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 6: good at was creating turnovers and creating havoc, and that's 200 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 6: stuff that he was so fundamentally sound that he was 201 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 6: in the right place at the right time. He has 202 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 6: a knack for finding the right angle to punch the 203 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 6: ball out, and in the passing game, he just would 204 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 6: be in the right place too when he's picking passes off. 205 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 6: So the athleticism certainly moves him up for me, because 206 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 6: that was one of the big questions that I had. 207 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 6: But is it going to be able to translate onto 208 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 6: the field? That's going to be the other question that 209 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 6: I asked myself is these numbers are great, They're fantastic, 210 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 6: and they do change how I look at him. But 211 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 6: it's one thing to do all those things in this setting. 212 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 6: It's another thing to go out and play football and 213 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 6: have that same athleticism. Is that a guy that can 214 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 6: still translate to do it? And he very well could 215 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 6: be I think so. 216 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 4: I think that that is the case, And the questions 217 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 4: I had about Jacob Rodriguez, it was I kind of 218 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 4: caught myself yesterday realizing I was nitpicking with him, and 219 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 4: I knew that, but when you look at the talent 220 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 4: and you understand the instincts as well, he's he's an FBP, 221 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 4: he's a football player, and the athleticism shows that he's 222 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 4: an athletic FVP and and those things. You have to 223 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 4: take those early in drafts, and I think Jacob Rodriguez 224 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 4: really stamped that for himself. 225 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 3: Do you feel like he is squarely a second round 226 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 3: pick now? Because of the numbers paired with the team, 227 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 3: I could see. 228 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 4: It go late first I really could, especially for you know, 229 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 4: any team really wanting to get in on these linebackers. 230 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 4: Because this is such a talented linebacker class. It's gonna 231 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 4: go deep, but the top tier ones. And I would 232 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 4: put Jacob Rodriguez in this top tier. Well, I would 233 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 4: say second tier. I think Sonny Styles is now in 234 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 4: a tier of his own. But uh, I think it's 235 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 4: it's worth a late first round pick for a linebacker 236 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 4: needy team. 237 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 238 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 5: Okay, so shout out to our guy Vatch. Let me 239 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 5: ask you this. 240 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 6: You're sitting there at twenty and you get DELAYE at twelve, right, 241 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 6: would you take Rodriguez there? 242 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 7: Who's on the board. 243 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: I was about to say, we need to know context here. 244 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 5: Let's say so he took a corner. 245 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 6: We'll say our Mason Thomas is there, Keyante Scott is there. 246 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 6: If you want to double on corner, Messador is there, 247 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 6: I'll give you those Is that? Is that three good enough? 248 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 4: Because I'm taking the but no, I yeah, yeah, yeah, 249 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 4: I'm just being yes, I would take I would. 250 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 7: I would take our Mason Thomas in that scenario. 251 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 2: Think I would. 252 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 7: But I would have a conversation about it absolutely in 253 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 7: the war room. For sure. 254 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: He would be the name that you're debating against. 255 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, like, why shouldn't I take this guy? 256 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, So let me ask you that question. 257 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you take Rodriguez over our Mason Thomas in 258 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 3: that occasion? 259 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 4: Just because I see our Mason Thomas as more impactful 260 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 4: as a pass rusher and with what he does and 261 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 4: even run game stuff too than the Jacob Rodriguez. And 262 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 4: that's no, not to Jacob Rodriguez is just positional value 263 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 4: at that point that you're you have to nitpick there, 264 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 4: and I would take our Mason. 265 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 3: What if you signed a blue chip edge rusher in 266 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 3: the draft, I mean in free agency before. 267 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 7: See ar Mason Thomas. 268 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: Still you can't have enough pass ru Yeah, yeah, I 269 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 2: agree with you. I'm just trying to trying to Yeah, yeah, 270 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 2: devil's a peel. I'm just trying to push you a 271 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 2: little bit and see, Uh, don't. 272 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 7: Me to take the stash. 273 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: I get it. 274 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 3: You want to take the saying it would be a 275 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 3: jersey seller, no doubt about it. Uh, Deny Dennis Sutton 276 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 3: had a nice day as well. You talk about the 277 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 3: Penn State edge rusher for six three forty uh one 278 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 3: six three split. 279 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 4: I'm telling you that's a round two guy. I've been 280 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 4: saying it since the start. Not even right there with you, guy. 281 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 3: Uh, he had a vert thirty nine to five vertical. 282 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 3: He was ten eleven in the broad jump. 283 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 2: I mean he was. He was electric as well. Uh. 284 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 2: I've got him right in the. 285 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 3: The front end of the third round at the moment, 286 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 3: which makes me think he could definitely move into. 287 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 2: That second round possibility. 288 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 3: Some other names that stood out, Uh, I thought the 289 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 3: TCU linebacker early uh Kayla b Larms Alarms or I 290 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 3: don't know why I struggle with Alarms or out of 291 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 3: all the names that I've I've said on this show before, 292 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 3: Kayleb Larms or the linebacker out of had a really 293 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 3: nice day as well. 294 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's athleticism. And honestly, he got snubbed from All 295 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 4: American mentioning last year. He was a damn good defender 296 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 4: for them. Not only a damn good defender, he was 297 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 4: their lead communicator for the last two years. Yeah, do 298 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 4: not sleep on Kayla b alarms Or. There are a 299 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 4: couple of really the TCU defenders in this draft. Yeah, 300 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 4: alarms Or is one, but Clark is another. But Clark 301 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 4: got a lot of love and mobile. Yeah, go back 302 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 4: and watch elarms Or that is. That's a Day two guy. 303 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 3: Absolutely anybody else took out to you from yesterday's combine workouts. 304 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 6: Tommy, Uh, like I said, Bailey from Texas Tech, I've 305 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 6: been a huge fan of I thought he was. 306 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 5: He's always been really good. 307 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 6: Uh, Kyle Lewis Limack from kitt from pitt excuse me, 308 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 6: Anthony Hill, my linebacker from Texas. 309 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 2: What'd you said? Man? 310 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 6: Okay, Anthony Hill, the linebacker from Texas. But Hill, I'm 311 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 6: still kind of on the fence on because people are 312 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 6: split on him, and I see why. The athleticism is there. 313 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 6: He was always going to be a guy that tests 314 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 6: really well. But can he read react? Can he do 315 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 6: the things that you want your middle linebacker potentially to do? 316 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 6: His uh, you know, turnover stuff in college was really 317 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:18,239 Speaker 6: good production wise, and you know he can twit. 318 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 2: And tackle really well. 319 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 6: But can he get to the right spot and is 320 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 6: he going to be able to do that and diagnose 321 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 6: quickly at the NFL level? That's his eyes are are 322 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 6: a little bit of my concern. But I still think 323 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 6: he's a solid player. But he'll be a Day two 324 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 6: guy for sure, and I think the athletic testing certainly 325 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 6: puts him there. 326 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 5: All right. 327 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 3: When we come back, we've got some twitter on the 328 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 3: twenty questions, Plus we're going to take a look at 329 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 3: the guys tonight that we can expect to shine on 330 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 3: the field with the workout portion of the NFL Combine. 331 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 2: Twitter on the twenty coming up in just a matter 332 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: of moments. 333 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 3: Plus we've got some Cowboys stuff in the final segment 334 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 3: that we're going to sort through as the combine rolls on. 335 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 3: We got plenty of rumbles and conversations going on around 336 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 3: Indian app lists. 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It is time for some. 385 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 5: Twitter on the Twitting Wave. 386 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 2: That was really good, very nice. 387 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 5: I didn't even know that that was I have to 388 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 5: be good for something on the show, so. 389 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 2: I didn't realize. 390 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 3: Uh we we had an impressionist in our midst Uh. 391 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 2: This is from Big Rich Star Talk, Rich Star Talk. 392 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 3: Who's film and combine testing aren't matching up so far? 393 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 3: Of course, we only just have the one day to 394 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 3: go by at this point of recording. But does anybody 395 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 3: have any anybody sticking out that isn't matching up? Maybe 396 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 3: in a good way, maybe in a negative way. 397 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 7: Oh, that is a man. I would have to sit with. 398 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 2: That kind of a loaded question. 399 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 5: What Rodriguez would fit under that category? 400 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 6: Okay for me at least of when I'm watching the film, 401 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 6: what's that looking for? 402 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 7: I'm just curious, like which one was worse than the other? 403 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 2: To you. 404 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 5: Of what doesn't match up? 405 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm what I'm okay, Maybe I just rephrased this 406 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 6: with Rodriguez. When I was watching the film, the athleticism 407 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 6: didn't match up with what I saw on films. 408 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 2: I see what you're saying. 409 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 5: Does that make sense? 410 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, you're not saying that his film as a 411 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 3: whole was disappointing compared to his combine testing. And no, no, no, no, 412 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 3: that's not what you're saying. 413 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 414 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 6: No, maybe I misterbreted the question, but that was when 415 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 6: I read it. That's what That's what it came to mind. 416 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 4: Zion Young for me out of Missouri. Uh, he was 417 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 4: a guy I had high hopes for coming into this 418 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 4: week and I'm trying to find the official numbers, but 419 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 4: he was a guy yesterday as we were watching the 420 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 4: combine that was like, man, he's honestly not looking as 421 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 4: great as I expected him to. He had a couple 422 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 4: of stumbles in the positional drills and I'm sitting here 423 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 4: trying to find his testing numbers that came out. But 424 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 4: I expected him to shine yesterday and he didn't really 425 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 4: do that. But I love the tape from Zion Young. 426 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 4: I think he's violent. We talked about him a little 427 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 4: bit yesterday and I thought he was a little bit 428 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 4: more explosive than he actually showed. 429 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 3: And at the Senior Bowl too. I mean he showed 430 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 3: down at the Senior Bowl andmobile. He's got that big body, 431 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 3: the two hundred and sixty two pounds. I mean, he 432 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 3: he's got a lot to carry around, but the flexibility 433 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 3: was never really part of his. 434 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 4: Game, right, Yeah, And I expected, or he had the opportunity, 435 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 4: I should say, to come in and really stamp that 436 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 4: first round value because I think there's a group of 437 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 4: like three or four edges that can sneak into that 438 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 4: back end of the first round, and all those guys 439 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 4: have the opportunity this week to really stamp that. And 440 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 4: I think a guy like maybe Josh Josephs has done 441 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 4: a better job of that than Zion Young. 442 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 3: Okay, so those are two good ones across the board 443 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 3: to start it. Jordan wants to know has the chances 444 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 3: of drafting a first round defensive tackle instead of becoming 445 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 3: or instead of a defensive end become higher because of the. 446 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 2: Importance of the four I position. 447 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 3: In the Christian Parker three to fourth scheme than we're 448 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 3: anticipating to see. 449 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 2: Oh. 450 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 4: I think they're doing their due diligence on defensive tackle. 451 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 4: But if if you're looking at early picks, I don't 452 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 4: think you're gonna see defensive tackle that in that mix, 453 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 4: and I honestly, there's just too many questions with all 454 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 4: these defensive tackles too, Like I don't know if there's 455 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 4: one in the first round where I'm looking at and 456 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, sure thing, God, yeah, like there are 457 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 4: Peter Woods is as close as I can get. But 458 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 4: even then, it's like, Okay, can he add the weight 459 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 4: back that he lost last year and can he get 460 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 4: back in the right scheme and adjust to that scheme? 461 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 4: I think he can, Like Peter Woods is my DT one, 462 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 4: but you know, there's still questions surrounding these guys. 463 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 3: I think that's a good question because when when you 464 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 3: do switch a scheme like this, it's all projection, all 465 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 3: of it. Even the guys that are in the building 466 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 3: are being projected into a new spot in a new role. 467 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 3: And I think the more that we've talked to Cowboys 468 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 3: staff members over the course of the week, they're excited 469 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 3: about it because they feel like the guys that are 470 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 3: in the building are going to fill a lot of 471 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 3: those roles. I mean, yesterday Brian Schottenheimer mentioned Maris Leefel 472 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 3: moving to outside linebacker, and that doesn't seem like on 473 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 3: paper that it would be a fit. I mean you 474 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 3: would need to add weight, you need to add past 475 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 3: rush ability. There's a lot of things there that Maris 476 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 3: hasn't shown during his time at it with the Cowboys 477 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 3: in the NFL. But a lot of these draft prospects 478 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 3: are the same way, like, they don't maybe fit specifically 479 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 3: into the scheme unless they have that versatility one way 480 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 3: or the other. 481 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're absolutely right. 482 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 6: But when you look at the Cowboys ross specifically, I 483 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 6: mean you've got most of the pieces that you'd want 484 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 6: for what Christian Parker's. 485 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 5: Going to run. 486 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 6: I mean, that's another thing that Brian Schoenheimer talked about yesterday, 487 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 6: how Kenny Clark has experienced playing the nose from his 488 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 6: time in Green Bay and he did a very good 489 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 6: job of playing the nose in Green Bay. And then 490 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 6: Gwinnon Williams at three tech was what he played at 491 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 6: Alabama coming out, which made him a first round pick. 492 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 5: You can fit. 493 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 6: Olso Diggi Zuway into one of those roles and I 494 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,239 Speaker 6: think he can work for you. Does that mean that 495 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 6: you are completely stricken from taking the defensive tackle. No, 496 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 6: I mean, if you feel like Christian Parker says, he 497 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 6: wants to win up front and they want to affect 498 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 6: the quarterback. If you talk to offensive players and quarterbacks 499 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 6: around the league, they will tell you they would much 500 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 6: rather get pressure from the edges than they would the interior. 501 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 6: So if they feel like they've got a guy in 502 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 6: this class that can make interior pressure and make it 503 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 6: harder on quarterbacks, then I mean, you add it. But 504 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 6: I just think that you have the pieces right now 505 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 6: if you're Dallas, to be able to do that, and 506 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 6: you can add the external pieces on the edges or 507 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 6: outside linebacker now in this case, to be able to 508 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 6: finish those plays and not give the quarterback any sort 509 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 6: of escape route. But they just don't have the personnel 510 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 6: for it right now. 511 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,719 Speaker 3: Joseph Hoyt out of the Dallas Morning News wants us 512 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 3: to sorry, You're right. Sorry, He says, can we get 513 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 3: a frisk Go Heritage shout out on the show? 514 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 2: Can you give that to the Coyotes? He's saying that 515 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 2: because our server at lunch. 516 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 4: Honestly, no, because Fristc Heritage knocked me out of the 517 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 4: basketball playoffs when it was sophomore in high school. 518 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 5: Shout out, Frisco Heritage. 519 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 3: Good job, guys, I'm still not bouncing okay with that 520 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 3: cool the Kyo Scott win that game. 521 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's disappointed. Heartbreak. I was heart feeling. That's different. 522 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 3: Oh you were out, you were on the sideline. You 523 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 3: didn't play through paying Uh no comment, no comment. 524 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 7: My agent told me to hold out. 525 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that was a business decision that. 526 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 3: You were trying to look forward to contract you Uh no. 527 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 3: Our server at at one of the restaurants in Indianapolis 528 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 3: today was was first Go Heritage grad. 529 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 2: So I had a little. 530 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 3: Texas connection in Indianapolis. That's why Joseph wants to talk 531 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 3: about it all right. Uh, Tristan wants to know is 532 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 3: there a pick at twelve that would make you, as 533 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 3: an evaluator upset at twelve? And then there's a second 534 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 3: part of this question that says, and if so, what 535 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 3: pick of twenty would bring you right back into the 536 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 3: fold if you feel like you were upset after the 537 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 3: first pick. 538 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 4: The colton Hood scenario keeps popping into my mind at twelve, 539 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 4: and that that one would be tough for me to stomach. 540 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 4: What would bounce back for me at twenty is if 541 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 4: they go and get dealing with phenemon. Oh wow, Yeah, 542 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 4: because I think that would help, you know my concerns 543 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 4: with Colton hood because you have a trust a guy 544 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 4: over the top like that or a versaal guy who 545 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 4: can step up and play Nickel who I think he 546 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 4: can do that too. 547 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 7: So yeah, I like that question. 548 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 6: I saw one the other day where messidor the defensive 549 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 6: end from Miami, who I love. 550 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 5: I'll say that went twelve. 551 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 6: I think that would be even if you're wiped on defense, 552 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 6: I think that would be a bit of a reach. 553 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 6: And I'm with Nick Thieneman or I mean, I'm starting 554 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 6: to like Emmanuel McNeil Warren more and more as things going. 555 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 6: Either one of those guys at twenty or on an 556 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 6: our Mason Thomas or a Keyante Scott even if you 557 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 6: if you want to get really old and add two 558 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 6: really old players, really old meaning twenty four and twenty five, 559 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 6: twenty four for Scott and the Nickel corner from Miami 560 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 6: and Messa door twenty five when the season starts next year, 561 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 6: that would be my scenario. 562 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 4: See you this, Dylan thinum is at twenty is a 563 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 4: sweet spot. If it were me and I was, you know, 564 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 4: handling the draft room that day, nothing anyone whatever, pay 565 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 4: me to do that. 566 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 7: I would be going into the day. 567 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 4: Dylan Thinuman is my number one target at twenty because 568 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 4: I think that's I think that. 569 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 7: Would be realistic. 570 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 4: I think it's a sweet spot, like I mentioned, and 571 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 4: you're gonna need that position, no doubt. And he's got 572 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 4: the versatility, He's got the instincts IQ scheme versatility as well, 573 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 4: going back to his days at Purdue, there's there's there's 574 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 4: a lot there to love, a lot there to love. 575 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 5: So let me let me shout out to watch. Let 576 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 5: me ask you this. 577 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 6: You're sitting there at twenty, right, Let's say Dylan, by 578 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 6: some by godly miracle, Sunny Styles makes it to twelve. 579 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 6: So or you get a linebacker at twenty at twelve 580 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 6: O twelve? 581 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 7: I was like, why did that take him at twelve? 582 00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 2: Twelve? 583 00:25:58,640 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 9: No? 584 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 6: No, no, no, twelve. So you get a linebacker at twelve? 585 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 6: We could say Styles just as a placeholder. You're sitting 586 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 6: at twenty with Jermond McCoy and Dylan Theenaman at twenty, 587 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 6: is it still thee heasy choice. 588 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 7: I'm not drafting Jermad McCoy. 589 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 2: That was gonna that was gonna be my answer to 590 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 2: this question. 591 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 3: If he's at twelve, which I don't know if he's 592 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 3: even in that conversation much. If he doesn't run just 593 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 3: off the charts during his pro pro day or at 594 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 3: least as. 595 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 5: Expected, We're talked about it. 596 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 2: We talked about it. Yeah, we talked about it. 597 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, up and make sure that was still the case. 598 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 3: That would be one to where there are so many 599 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 3: questions around him and it adds another red flagged injury 600 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 3: guy to your already red flagged injury secondary. You can't 601 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 3: be messing around with that. Yeah at twelve or twenty, 602 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 3: let's just keep that in mind. Now, if he comes 603 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 3: or he goes to Knoxville and he knocks out the 604 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 3: pro day and he is fantastic, yeah yeah, I didn't 605 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 3: mean to do that, but uh, when he comes at 606 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 3: least hits the field for the first time. I was 607 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 3: really hoping he would work out this week and then 608 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 3: we would see that growth going into the Pro day. 609 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 3: I was hoping we would have that those two bullet 610 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 3: points on the graph to say, Okay, he did it 611 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 3: not once but twice, and we can kind of compare it. 612 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 2: Now there's no comparison. 613 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 3: It's one day for him to solidify whether he's a 614 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 3: first round pick, whether it's a red flag, and that's 615 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 3: where I think the medicals this week are probably gonna 616 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 3: tell us a lot of that story, and that may 617 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 3: come out over the next couple of weeks as well. 618 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 3: But man, yeah, that would be one that would be 619 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 3: very disappointing. And I'm I'm on the theinem and bandwagon 620 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 3: as well. I think you need the safety. Yeah, you 621 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 3: need somebody over the top. He be the nickel too, 622 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 3: and he very well could be the nickel. And it 623 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 3: gives you a It gives you flexibility in your secondary. 624 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 3: So whether you take a linebacker or a corner at twelve, 625 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 3: you take. 626 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 2: Venim in, you're not getting Caleb Downs. 627 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,479 Speaker 3: I think at this point we've kind of already come 628 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 3: to grips with that. The He would be the number 629 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 3: two safety on my list. If you're getting him at twenty, 630 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 3: sign me up. You've got a secondary player that's going 631 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 3: to be fantastic for years to come. 632 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 633 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 4: And if you were Philadelphia or Kansas City or Seattle 634 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 4: and you had the opportunity to draft yourmont McCoy, my goodness, 635 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 4: what a luxury that would be because you have a 636 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 4: really good secondary and you can allow Jermont McCoy to 637 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 4: get in the building, get healthy, get his feet back 638 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 4: under him, which I think is really important because you 639 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 4: saw Savone Revel healthy but not necessarily his feetback under 640 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 4: him last year and it's the same exact situation here. 641 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 7: Dallas just doesn't have that luxury. 642 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 4: And again, I know I mentioned this on yesterday's show, 643 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 4: but it's really sticking in my mind when it comes 644 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 4: to Jamon McCoy specifically. Brian Schoenheimer mentioned in his media 645 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 4: availability yesterday, it's like, Christian Parker is really good at 646 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,959 Speaker 4: getting guys to play early, and we need that, and 647 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 4: I don't. There's a different level of expectation for a 648 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 4: guy like Jermal McCoy when he comes in the building 649 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 4: versus a guy like Monsur Delane. You expect Monsore de 650 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 4: Lane to hit the ground running. Where you're with Jermal McCoy, 651 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 4: you're like, Okay, what can he do here in the 652 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 4: off season. We want to make sure we put his 653 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,959 Speaker 4: training wheels on first. Things like that. You're not afforded 654 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 4: that luxury right now. With the secondary getting Deron Bland 655 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 4: back from his foot injury, getting Revel back to one 656 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 4: hundred percent. I know We've talked about it, but that 657 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 4: I just don't see how Tremont mccoyan's up in Dallas. 658 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 3: The final question of Twitter on the twenty today, Russell 659 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 3: wants to know, and we've talked about this a couple 660 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 3: times already, but in this draft, based on the depth 661 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 3: of talent needed at each of the positions, does it 662 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 3: still make more sense to trade back a little pick 663 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 3: in Day two a time or two, or just stick 664 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 3: and pick with. 665 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 2: The premium pit players at twelve and twenty? 666 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 7: Run that back? 667 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 3: He is it still makes sense based off of the 668 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 3: depth of each of these positions that Dallas needs and 669 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 3: the conversations we've had this week, that a trade down 670 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 3: scenario is still possible. 671 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 2: Or do you stick and pick at twelve and twenty? Yeah? 672 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 7: I think go ahead, you got it. 673 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 4: I think trade scenarios are certainly on the board, no doubt. 674 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 4: I was talking to a media evaluator yesterday that I 675 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 4: really respect, he does really good work, and he was like, 676 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 4: I think I might have forty second round grades in 677 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 4: this draft. He's like, there's not many first round guys, 678 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 4: but there are so many second and third round guys 679 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,959 Speaker 4: where it's like, man if you're picking eighteen versus like 680 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 4: thirty eight, there's not that big of a difference as 681 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 4: it has been in the past, and so if you're 682 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 4: picking up date two capital, this is a good draft 683 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 4: to do. 684 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 6: So yeah, and I completely agree. The only thing that 685 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 6: my approach would be if you're going to trade, I 686 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 6: don't know if I would move until a draft day 687 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 6: because there is so much question about what we talked 688 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 6: about at the start of the show. You get to 689 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 6: pick three by that point, what happens after that With 690 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 6: that uncertainty, not only do you not know who could 691 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 6: be on the board there for you at twelve, but 692 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 6: if you're wiped, there could be another team that's like, hey, 693 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 6: we really need to get in front of Los Angeles 694 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 6: because we feel like they might take this player. So 695 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 6: somebody might give you some more capital based on the 696 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 6: tax of the desperation of wanting to move up and 697 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 6: then get whoever they want if they need an offensive player, 698 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 6: especially since if Dallas is wiped, that's probably what's going 699 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 6: to be sitting on the board. So my thing would be, 700 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 6: if that's the case, then you wait till draft day, 701 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 6: and absolutely if you can strike a deal where you 702 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 6: can get multiple Day two picks, then you certainly. 703 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 5: Pull the trigger on that. 704 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 3: See I think part of your argument of why Day 705 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 3: two and three is going to be so loaded with 706 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 3: those players and you've got the forty second round grades 707 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 3: is part of why I would. 708 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 2: Stay and picked at twelve and twenty. 709 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 3: Because you have the ability to get one first round 710 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 3: graded player I would assume at twelve, and then maybe 711 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 3: one of your other first round grades does fall, depending 712 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,719 Speaker 3: on how many first round grades you have, whether that's twelve, fifteen, eighteen, 713 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 3: whatever it ends up being. If you're sitting at twenty 714 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 3: and a couple other second round graded players on the 715 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 3: Cowboys board goes in front of them, then you might 716 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 3: have an opportunity at a first round graded player. I 717 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 3: don't think you'll have that in the second or the 718 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 3: third round. So you can make it to where these 719 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 3: two picks. 720 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 2: Are so premium. 721 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 3: And yes, it's going to be annoying on draft weekend 722 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 3: when all four of us or all three of us, 723 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 3: and then watching Brian and all these other guys are 724 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 3: sitting around just looking at each other on Day two 725 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 3: talking about the other draft picks that are happening. But 726 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 3: if you trade one of those picks, you end up 727 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 3: with a second round pick and a third round pick. 728 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 3: You end up just going back to a regular draft 729 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 3: where you pick it in the first, you pick in 730 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 3: the second, you pick in the third. If you can 731 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,479 Speaker 3: keep both first round picks in a choir capital, then 732 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 3: I'm in. But don't trade out of the first round 733 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 3: in order to do that. That's my only concern, because 734 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 3: I think if you take your first two picks there, 735 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 3: you're gonna find some difference makers right now that Christian 736 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 3: Parker and or whoever is going to have some success 737 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 3: with right off the bat. 738 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 6: Okay, let me ask you this, then, are you cool 739 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,959 Speaker 6: if it's a move back in the first round and 740 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 6: add a third round as long as you keep your 741 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 6: first two That's what I'm saying. 742 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 2: Yes, you swap two picks, swap first. 743 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 5: And you get a pick in the third round. 744 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 2: As long as you keep your two picks, I'm cool 745 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 2: with that. 746 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 3: Okay, if it's if it's giving up a first round 747 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 3: pick in order to get premium spots of the second round, 748 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 3: the couple third round picks, whatever it may be from 749 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 3: a trade chart standpoint, if you're as long as you're 750 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 3: picking twice, and I would even say twice in the 751 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 3: top twenty. That's where I think there's a sweet spot. 752 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 3: If you have two picks in the top twenty of 753 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 3: this draft, take advantage of those because there's some high 754 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 3: end talent there that's going to be available at twelve 755 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 3: and twenty. If you are gonna move, you got to 756 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 3: stick in the top twenty. And that's why I think 757 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 3: twelve is the only option to trade back from. I'm 758 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 3: not trading twenty because it's one not gonna be the 759 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 3: highest value, and two, I would rather take a guy 760 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 3: or take a chance that a guy I really like 761 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 3: is gonna. 762 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 2: Fall down there to that twentieth spot. 763 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 3: All right, when we come back here on the Draft Show, 764 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 3: we're gonna wrap up Radio Row by talking about some 765 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 3: of the Cowboys rumors and news about what they could 766 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 3: be looking at, maybe even updating the list of prospects 767 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 3: that the Cowboys have talked to today and in what 768 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 3: they've shown throughout the week on how they could be leaning. 769 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 3: More of the Draft Show from Indianapolis, Indiana when we 770 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 3: come back after. 771 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 11: This, Cowboys fans. 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Of course, the NFL Combine and the NFL 826 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 3: Draft has a lot of moving and shaking beforehand to 827 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 3: even get to what is a clear picture on Draft weekend, 828 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 3: and one of the dominoes that has needed the fall 829 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 3: was George Pickens and the tag being placed on him. 830 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 3: It was reported as a non exclusive franchise tag. 831 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,240 Speaker 2: Is a little interesting. 832 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 3: But my question to you guys is from a draft standpoint, 833 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,879 Speaker 3: how does this change things or if it changes things 834 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 3: at all? 835 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 2: From the Cowboys perspective. 836 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 6: I wouldn't because I find it very difficult to envision 837 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,720 Speaker 6: a scenario at this point in time where George Pickens 838 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 6: is not playing for the Cowboys. I think worst case, 839 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 6: you see him just play on the tag. I think 840 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:26,720 Speaker 6: it's too invaluable to not play and set the year out. Obviously, 841 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 6: financially that's gonna be a big burden. But I just 842 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 6: think that is this process going to drag out? Very 843 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 6: likely it's good, it very likely will. But I think 844 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 6: at the end of the day, in one form of fashion, 845 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 6: he's I'm confident that the Cowboys will have. 846 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 5: George Pickens on the field. It's just a question of when. 847 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,720 Speaker 6: So that's that doesn't that means I'm not really thinking 848 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 6: too much about the draft unless there's a trade beforehand. Obviously, 849 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 6: then receiver definitely becomes a question. 850 00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know, there's probably a fun scenario that 851 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 4: you're gonna see on you know, a random article at 852 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 4: some point in the next few weeks where it's you know, 853 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 4: throwing George Pickens in trade conversations and how that could 854 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 4: potentially impact the Cowboys in the draft. I mean, they 855 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 4: want George Pickens here, and George Pickens wants to be 856 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 4: here here, I'm saying Dallas. And how it necessarily affects 857 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 4: things from a draft standpoint is if somehow things get 858 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 4: messy enough before Draft Day, to where they see a 859 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 4: different conclusion being drawn, and you know that'll be determined 860 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 4: largely over the course of the next month or so. 861 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 4: Tommy and I will have the opportunity to go down 862 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 4: to the owners meetings in Phoenix, Arizona at the end 863 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 4: of March, and we're gonna get a pretty good update 864 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 4: then on where you know, these negotiations stand. That was 865 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 4: the same place last year where Jerry had the famous 866 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 4: I don't know the agent quote, and I will hopefully 867 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 4: expected to talk to Jerry Jones today as well, so 868 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 4: you know, we'll get his side of things as the 869 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 4: tag is placed and we're moving forward. But from Pickens 870 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,320 Speaker 4: standpoint or Pickens representation standpoint, they're prepared to play the 871 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 4: long game with it. And so you know, if that 872 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 4: ends up manifesting in a situation to where the Cowboys 873 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 4: look at the trade market more seriously, then yeah, you know, 874 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 4: is there a scenario where like, hey, at twelve, you 875 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 4: take cardl tit if he slips, and then you trade 876 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 4: Pickens for a second round pick that day and you 877 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,399 Speaker 4: get a second round pick and then you go get 878 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 4: you know, your linebacker, your safety or your edge rush 879 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 4: or whatever it may be. 880 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 7: You know that's a scenario. Am I saying it's likely 881 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 7: not at all? 882 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 4: But I do think it's worth having, especially when we're 883 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,799 Speaker 4: talking about the draft scenarios and how they could play 884 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 4: a factor into this. 885 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 3: And then what's the biggest difference between the non exclusive 886 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:40,879 Speaker 3: and the exclusive franchise tag that changes anything specifically from 887 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 3: a Cowboys standpoint whenever it comes to what they're saying 888 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 3: by placing a different tag on Pickens as opposed to 889 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 3: just go ahead and doing the exclusive franchise tag. 890 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 6: Exclusive tag means that he can't negotiate with other teams 891 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 6: in free agency, sure, non exclusive tags that tag means 892 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 6: that he can. But the Cowboys would still have the 893 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 6: option to match whatever offer he's given. And if Pickens 894 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 6: were to accept that offer and the Cowboys are fine 895 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 6: with him taking that offer and leaving, the Cowboys would 896 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 6: get two first round picks. 897 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 4: So basically, it's like a trade for two first round picks. 898 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 4: And essentially, if yeah, somebody or to sign Pickens, which 899 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:22,360 Speaker 4: it's not gonna happen. 900 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, would that be a if? 901 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:29,280 Speaker 3: If that were the case, and let's say it does happen, 902 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 3: like you said, it's not going to happen, is that 903 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 3: an immediate first round pick or is it is that 904 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 3: something that could go. 905 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:34,800 Speaker 7: It depends on the timing. 906 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 4: I believe that that one that's like find print CBA 907 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 4: stuff that I have to fresh up. But it's never happened, 908 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 4: and so that's that's why there's not really imprecedent for it. 909 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 3: And we've already talked about that. In terms of the 910 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 3: trade value anyways for Pickens is nowhere near two first 911 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 3: round picks. 912 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 7: Correct, It's it's about a second. 913 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 3: Exactly, and so for a team to be able to 914 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 3: put together an offer that would be willing to do that, 915 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 3: even as fun as that sounds, that's not going to 916 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 3: be a possibility. 917 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 6: This very well may be part of the negotiation tactic 918 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 6: in the sense of the Cowboys saying, hey, go see 919 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:08,879 Speaker 6: what your. 920 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 2: Market is, See what the numbers is are going to be. 921 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 5: Go see what the numbers are going to be. 922 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 4: You know, since we're having that conversation, it's worth having 923 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 4: the conversation of the Cowboys are expected to place the 924 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 4: second round tender on TJ Bass, and if they can't 925 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 4: find an agreement with Brandon Aubrey before free agency opens, 926 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 4: they would place a second round tender on him as well. Again, 927 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,319 Speaker 4: this is a situation that literally has not happened in 928 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,839 Speaker 4: the NFL, But the rule state with these restricted free 929 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,319 Speaker 4: agents that if you place a second round tender on them, 930 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 4: it basically gives them a one year, five point eight 931 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 4: million dollars salary if they do not agree to a 932 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 4: contract with another team. If they do, the Cowboys have 933 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 4: the right to match, and if they decide not to, 934 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 4: since they put that second round tender on them, they 935 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 4: would get a second round pick in exchange. 936 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 2: And I can. 937 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 7: Guarantee you if TJ. 938 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 4: Bass or Brandon Aubrey were exchange for a second round pick, 939 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,799 Speaker 4: any team would take that. But it's worth mentioning from 940 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 4: a draft standpoint, but very unlikely to happen, just as 941 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 4: it is for a team to get two first round 942 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,800 Speaker 4: picks or give away two first round picks for George Pickens. 943 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,280 Speaker 2: The tag element of it all, and I think TJ. 944 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 3: Bass shows exactly what they feel like his value is 945 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,239 Speaker 3: at the offensive line position too, right. I mean, they 946 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,760 Speaker 3: wouldn't just place a tender on him if they didn't 947 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 3: want him back in Dallas. They want to make sure 948 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 3: he's a part of that offensive line. Does that change 949 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 3: any way? Of how the Cowboys could possibly be looking 950 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,840 Speaker 3: at offensive linemen in this draft, especially for depth pieces. 951 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:28,320 Speaker 7: Yeah. 952 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, it depends on who they retain in free agency, 953 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 4: and TJ. Bass and Brockoffin are the two biggest ones. Yeah, 954 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 4: I think if you see one of those guys go, 955 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,879 Speaker 4: then the likelihood increases a bit. Rob Jones is said 956 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 4: to be a free agent as well. But Cowboys take 957 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 4: an offensive lineman in every draft. But you probably won't 958 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,800 Speaker 4: see this until day three. You definitely won't see this 959 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 4: until day three. I can go ahead and stamp that. 960 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 6: It was a Johnny Cornelie as at Oregon last year. 961 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 6: I would expect something similar this year. And if they 962 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,879 Speaker 6: lose one of the guards, I probably think it would 963 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 6: be a guard too. 964 00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:58,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 965 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 3: All right, combine week coming to a close, at least 966 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 3: on the media's portion side of things, and everybody kind 967 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 3: of heading out over the next couple days. We got 968 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:07,879 Speaker 3: to get out of here a little bit early because 969 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 3: there is some other stuff on the horizon. Like Nick 970 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 3: alluded to, We're gonna try and see if we can 971 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,360 Speaker 3: talk to some more members of the Cowboys front office 972 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 3: and we'll report back to you back in the Star 973 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 3: on Tuesday, with more of the Draft Show back at 974 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,239 Speaker 3: our normal time as well at eleven am Central Time for. 975 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 2: Nick Harris for Tommy Yarch. I'm Kyle Yeomens. 976 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,879 Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us all week long here from Radio 977 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,360 Speaker 3: Row in Indianapolis. 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