1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: Welcome everybody. Wednesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: Sexton Show kicks off right now. We are stacked with 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 2: stories and with some big guests. Today a little roadmap 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 2: of all things play and book. On February seventh, twenty 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 2: twenty four, I can't believe how the time is flying 8 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 2: already in this year. We have in the second hour 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 2: of the program, the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson. 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 2: He's going to join us. We'll ask him about Israel 11 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: Aid package stuff, the majorcas impeachment. I love our team 12 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 2: wrote setback here where we're looking at I think we 13 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 2: can say debacle. I think we can say debacle. We'll 14 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: talk more about that, and also National Girls and Women 15 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: in Sports Day, which I'm finding out is today. We 16 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: also at two o'clock, I've Sentator Rant Paul on the 17 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: Intel whistleblower allegations over COVID origins. We'll talk to Rand 18 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: about some other stuff. Maybe he'll even give us a 19 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: Super Bowl pick. So that's all coming your way. A 20 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 2: few other things on the horizon here on the agenda, 21 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: the DOJ report on Biden classified. It's been report. No 22 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 2: criminal charge. That's we knew. It's a confirmation of what 23 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 2: we already expected. But there'll be more details in that one. Clay, 24 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: I think if you if we have time for this one. 25 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 2: I thought this story is fascinating. It's making the rounds 26 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: on social media. At at fifty three different Illinois schools. 27 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 2: Did you see this? Not a single student can do 28 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: math at grade level. Yeah, it's sad. It's really over 29 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: over fifty schools. Uh, this is this is a There 30 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: is a learning crisis or a lack of learning crisis 31 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: in America needs to be addressed. So we'll maybe get 32 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: into that in a little bit. But first up here, 33 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: Republicans never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. They 34 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: failed to impeach Alaha Majorcas in the House of Representatives 35 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 2: over the border crisis, effectively over dereliction of duty. Really 36 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 2: two hundred and fourteen to two hundred and sixteen, that 37 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: was the final tally. So we'll speak to the Speaker, 38 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: Mike Johnson over this. We've got the guy that we 39 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 2: should be able to get the most insight from on it. 40 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 2: They were going for this one. I mean, play here's 41 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: here's for me. The issue Republicans are winning on the 42 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 2: border right now, Yes, everybody knows, is the the Senate 43 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 2: bipartisan catastrophe, the bipartisan dumpster fire did not is not 44 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: going anywhere. It's dead on arrival, as everybody now knows. 45 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 2: So the Biden administration is watching as the numbers continue. 46 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 2: I think now they're saying a million illegals have crossed 47 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: in the fiscal year which started in October already, So 48 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: we're going to be at an eight million number for 49 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: Biden's election day twenty twenty four, right, We're gonna be 50 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 2: an eight million. This is a huge, huge problem for 51 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: them because the public's mind has finally been set on 52 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 2: this issue in a meaningful way. But here Republicans are 53 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 2: managing to step on a rake, managing to belly flop 54 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 2: in the pool. And it shows that there's a lack 55 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: of execution, a lack of follow through when they're even 56 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 2: trying to do things that are about the messaging. I 57 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: know that we're not going to be thinking about this 58 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: in a few days, but how do they mess this 59 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 2: one up? 60 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 3: That sigh is just I mean, I hope you can 61 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 3: hear the sigh when I saw this story. So first 62 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 3: of all, and I've said this on the show, I 63 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 3: don't understand why you impeach a cabinet official when the 64 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 3: cabinet official is following the marching orders of the president. 65 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 3: And I've made this argument on the air. I think 66 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: Joe Biden should be impeached for his feilms at the 67 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 3: Southern Border. I understand that that means that you will 68 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 3: not get a conviction in the Senate, but I think 69 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 3: it forces not only the Southern border, but also everything 70 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 3: surrounding Hunter Biden. I think that Biden there is ample evidence, 71 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 3: particularly given the standard that was set when Donald Trump 72 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 3: was president, that Joe Biden should be impeached. I don't 73 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 3: understand why you go after a cabinet secretary in majorcas who. 74 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: I think is incompetent. 75 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 3: But all he's doing is executing the plan and directions 76 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 3: of the President of the United States and the Executive 77 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 3: Office administration. So there are three Republicans who chose not 78 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 3: to vote in favor of this. One of them, Mike Gallagher, 79 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 3: basically made the argument that I just made, and I 80 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 3: think he's right that Biden is ultimately the root cause here. 81 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 3: The difference is you have to at some point. I 82 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 3: think even if you don't agree one hundred percent with 83 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 3: the party strategy, you can't derail things like the three 84 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 3: Republicans who voted against this did. And it is a 85 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 3: larger picture here, Buck. What this represents to me is 86 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 3: what we told so many people when Kevin McCarthy was 87 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 3: removed that a lot of this is kabuki theater. When 88 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 3: you only have a margin of a couple of votes, 89 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 3: it's not like you have some ability to get tons 90 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 3: of things done. This is the reality, and a lot 91 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 3: of people out there want to buy into this idea 92 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 3: that somebody has way more power than they actually do. 93 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 3: Majorities give you power, but slim majorities give you virtually 94 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 3: no power. And when all it takes is three Republicans 95 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 3: to drop out and not support something, and you've got 96 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 3: Steve Scalise, I think, Buck, who was getting cancer treatment 97 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 3: and wasn't able to be there and vote, and maybe 98 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 3: they're going to come back and manage to impeach by 99 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 3: a bare minimum. But your power is constrained by the 100 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 3: majority that you have, no matter who the leader is. 101 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 2: We told everybody are our sense of this when there 102 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 2: was the fight over over the Speaker to oust McCarthy, 103 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 2: and people got very riled up about this. Some of 104 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 2: the ringleaders, if you will, of the oust McCarthy effort 105 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 2: have since at least been quoted by sources as saying, yeah, 106 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: it was really just about not liking McCarthy personally. There 107 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: was no grand legislative plan to it, and to your point, 108 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 2: there couldn't be, because look at how narrow the margins are. 109 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 2: Unless you want somebody who's with narrow margins. You can 110 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: either try to find third way or middle ground bills 111 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: to pass with Democrats, which I don't think really exist 112 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 2: and the base would would flip out about. Or you 113 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: can just not go along with what the Democrats want. 114 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 2: Those are really the only options. So you're not getting 115 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: You don't have a sweeping mandate to do to do 116 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: big things. So look, this is the good is is 117 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 2: We'll be talking to the Speaker about some of this 118 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 2: a little later on. He could explain why this went down. 119 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 2: As this went down, it's not a big deal. I 120 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 2: think that's also in the moment it can look like 121 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 2: what buffoonery to not be able to impeach my Orcus. 122 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 2: People will forget about this relatively quickly. It's more to 123 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 2: me just the recognition that the Republicans have a razor 124 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 2: razor thin majority need to win this fall at least one, 125 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: if not both houses of Congress. It's going to be 126 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 2: very tough, I think in the House for them, it's 127 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 2: going to be much more difficult than it is to 128 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: see a one or two seat majority in the Senate. 129 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 2: And also impeaching my Orcus. I mean, I say this 130 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: it's really an optics thing. It's a feel good move 131 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 2: for there if it had been successful. I mean, if 132 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: you're able to go all the way, it's not gonna happen. 133 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 2: But if you're able to go all the way and 134 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 2: remove this guy, they just replace him with somebody else 135 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 2: who's going to do Biden's bidding at the border regardless, right, 136 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 2: I mean, that's the only real accountability in the executive 137 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: branch comes at the top everybody. 138 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 3: That's the truth. That's my thing. Like there, Look, I 139 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 3: think Mayor Pete has been an awful Transportation secretary. I 140 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 3: think Kamala Harris is an awful Vice president. Mayorcus has 141 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 3: done an awful job at the border. What all those 142 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 3: people have in common, they serve at the pleasure of 143 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 3: Joe Biden, who has been the worst president I think 144 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:19,679 Speaker 3: in any of our lives. 145 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: So to me, when you feud like you've. 146 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 3: Got to go after the head of the snake And 147 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 3: to me, Joe Biden is the head of the snake 148 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 3: party right now, Democrat Party, and so you make a 149 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 3: choice to attack him. I think Joe Biden should be impeached. 150 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 3: And to me, it dilutes things when you imp Again, 151 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 3: he serves at the will may Orcus does of the president. 152 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 3: His job is to execute the president's vision. That is 153 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 3: what it means to be a member of the cabinet. 154 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 3: You aren't out there freelancing on your own. You all 155 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 3: respond and serve at the beck and call the president. 156 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 3: So I think this is a miss guided focus in 157 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 3: general on may Orcus because what it suggests Buck unfortunately, 158 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 3: is if Joe Biden just decided to cut bait here 159 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 3: and replace may orcas Republicans have created an opening where 160 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 3: Biden could blame may Orcus and as part of twenty 161 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 3: twenty four say we have a new strategy. Right, to me, 162 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 3: that doesn't make sense. It's like the head coach wins 163 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 3: or loses the game. When the head coach is trying 164 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 3: to when you're focused on the coordinators or you're focused 165 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 3: on somebody down the food chain, Ultimately the problem is 166 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 3: actually with the head coach, and so that is where 167 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 3: I would that's where I would focus. This is a 168 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 3: Biden issue. As much as we would be upset with 169 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 3: Mayorcas and his leadership, he's doing what Joe Biden wants. 170 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 3: And that's why the focus on him being misguided. 171 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 2: To take your head coach analogy, if you just replace 172 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: you know, the assistant defensive coordinator or whatever, you're gonna 173 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 2: get the head coach operating through whomever he replaces him with, 174 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 2: with the same strategy and the same decision. They need 175 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 2: to change who has power to make the call. And 176 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: I understand that can feel unsatisfying right now, But I 177 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: mean we went through Look we went through this with 178 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 2: Eric Holder, and everyone's like, oh, we got to impeach 179 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 2: Eric Holder and remove them under the Obama administration, And yeah, 180 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 2: was Eric Were there plenty of reasons to think that 181 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 2: Eric Holder was undermining the rule all in the constitution? Sure, 182 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 2: But Loretta Lynch took over. Right, Eventually, you look at this, Okay, 183 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: you're gonna how much time are you gonna spend and 184 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 2: I get it right now. It's yeah, we're gonna hold 185 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 2: people accountable. Really because removing any of these Democrats that 186 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: are in good standing with the party, they're just gonna 187 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 2: go and do either private legal practice as a partner, 188 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: making millions of dollars. They're gonna get a book deal, 189 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 2: they'll be on an MSNBC. Like you're not actually punishing 190 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 2: them everybody. Yeah, that's the part of it that I mean, 191 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 2: I will tell you all the truth. They are not. 192 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 2: Oh no, what happens even if you can fire some 193 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 2: of these executive branch people has happened under Trump? Remember 194 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 2: with what's his name, not Kobe, the other with a 195 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 2: little mini Komy, you know what I mean, the shorter one, 196 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: the camera to the guy's name, the FBI guy who 197 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 2: was you're all streaming his name. I'm forgetting it. But 198 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 2: that's you know, it's been so long since we did 199 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 2: Russia collusion. Remember the guy who lost his pension because 200 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 2: he got fired before they she invested and all that 201 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 2: mccaid there. I mean, thank myself, I remember mckaid. They 202 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 2: ended up, he got a book deal, he was on TV, 203 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: he got his pension restored. I mean, they will take 204 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 2: care of their little Marxist henchman. 205 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 3: I mean they get Fauci guy gets millions of dollars 206 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 3: to write a book and he got everything wrong on COVID. 207 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 2: They're gonna take care of their people. So I'm i'm 208 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 2: I'm understanding that there's a case to be made here. 209 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: Oh but we want everyone to understand how bad they 210 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 2: are at their job. Yeah, but don't ever, you know, 211 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 2: don't ever let them pull a Hunter Biden. What's the 212 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 2: single main strategy in the whole Hunter Biden fiasco. Okay, yeah, 213 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 2: he's bad. He's bad, but it has nothing to do 214 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 2: with Joe. And if you focus in onas as the problem, 215 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 2: it starts to turn into oh, well is he not 216 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 2: is he just not an effective administrator? Or is he No, 217 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: the problem is Joe Biden, or the problem is the 218 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 2: Biden white House that is dictating the terms to may 219 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 2: Orcus and he's the one who's implementing them. So, you know, 220 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 2: while we shouldn't have had a failed vote, Fine, let's 221 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 2: not get ahead of ourselves and like like we were 222 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: saying before, we're the people that were honest at the time. 223 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 2: Because I get it, there's an emotional component to this. 224 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 2: You know, you want to think, oh, we're going to 225 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 2: finally do something here. We all want to do something. 226 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 2: But replacing Kevin McCarthy with Johnson, who's, like we've been saying, 227 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 2: going to be on the show later on, it's not 228 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 2: going to change the world, folks. It might be marginally better, 229 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 2: or you might like him more, you might think he's 230 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 2: more conservative, but the votes are the votes. The power 231 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 2: structure is the power structure. The same thing can be 232 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 2: said of majorcas. So you know, it's not like some 233 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 2: huge loss here. It just looks foolish, it looks undisciplined. 234 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 2: Anger's not a stretch, it's good life lesson. In general, 235 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 2: anger is not a strategy. It's an emotion. Almost everything 236 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 2: on social media is emotional. That's fine. 237 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 3: Responding to emotion with more emotion typically doesn't lead to 238 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 3: logic or great success. And I think a lot of 239 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 3: people get fired up angrily and just want something to happen. 240 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 3: And again, this is ultimately a numbers game, and we 241 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,599 Speaker 3: told you the majority is tiny. All it takes is 242 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 3: a couple of people to flip to three. Here shouldn't happen. 243 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 3: We'll talk with the speaker of the House Mike Johnson 244 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 3: in the next hour about all of this. 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Appreciate all of you hanging out with 262 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 3: us as we are rolling through with all the news 263 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 3: that's out there, and I wanted to hit this because 264 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 3: this is kind of an interview with Vladimir Putin and 265 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 3: he's in Russia right now. 266 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 2: He may have already done the interview. 267 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 3: I haven't seen the absolute latest of when that'll be scheduled, 268 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 3: how it would be distributed, how long the conversation will go. 269 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 3: There's still a lot of details out there about it. 270 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 3: But we're talking with the staff. I couldn't believe when 271 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 3: I saw this, and whatever you think in general, we 272 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 3: had this discussion yesterday and you guys may think I 273 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 3: was crazy, and Buck said, maybe we have to send 274 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 3: it in special forces to get you out if Kim 275 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 3: Jong un reached out and he said, hey, I'll do 276 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 3: a sit down interview with you. Because for those of 277 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 3: you out there who are who are aware of this, 278 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 3: Kim Jong Un, this is one of the many crazy 279 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 3: facts about Kim Jong Un is a massive fan of 280 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 3: the nineteen nineties era Chicago Bulls as a kid growing up. 281 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 3: You know this, Buck, he loved to watch. That's why 282 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 3: he likes Dennis Rodman. That's why he had a relationship 283 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 3: with Rodman. Like I think he would give up the 284 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 3: nuke plan if Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen would go 285 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 3: visit North Korea. 286 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: You guys might think I'm crazy, but that's how big 287 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 2: of a fit he is. If he invited me to 288 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 2: come and do an interview, I think I would go right. 289 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 3: And if I could go with Michael Jordan or something like, 290 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 3: I think I would do it. 291 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 2: Wait, this wasn't Kim Jong Ill the big basketball fan 292 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 2: or no son. 293 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 3: Kim Jong Un is like a monster basketball fan loves 294 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 3: Dennis Rodman, obsessed with the nineteen nineties era Chicago Bulls, 295 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 3: the six time champion dynasty as many of you out 296 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 3: there work. 297 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 2: He may be a vile dictator, but he does have 298 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 2: good taste in basketball. 299 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 3: Yes, he likes he likes Jordan more than Lebron. It's 300 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 3: one thing we overlap with. But I saw this, Buck, 301 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 3: and you and I were just talking about a little bit. 302 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 3: The European Union is now threatening to not allow Tucker 303 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 3: to enter their countries, basically pull his passport if he 304 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 3: interviews Vladimir Putin. I can't believe this is real. I mean, whatever, 305 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 3: you think that you could sit down and do an 306 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 3: interview and suddenly you can't travel to Europe anymore? 307 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 2: Like this is bonkers. Yeah, I don't think they're gonna 308 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 2: do it, because it does look so heavy handed, uncalled 309 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 2: for and really despotic. But the fact that there's even 310 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: chatter around it just goes to how unsettling it is 311 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 2: for somebody who's not a part of the approved narrative 312 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 2: creation machinery Tucker to go and have this sit down 313 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 2: with a foreign head of state. I mean, look, we 314 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 2: were talking yesterday about some of the complexities of this. 315 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 2: The thing about Russia is you can't ignore Russia. You know, 316 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 2: you can actually cordon off North Korea or try to, 317 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 2: and it's pretty effective. Russia's too big, too influential, too powerful. 318 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 2: You have to deal with them, and our efforts to 319 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 2: not do that have been laughed at in the beginning 320 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 2: of the Ukraine War with the economy and everything else. 321 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 2: So we'll get back to this. 322 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 3: The Tunnel the Towers Foundations. Let Us Do Good Village 323 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 3: in Landa Lakes, Florida, is a community of about one 324 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 3: hundred homes being built for the foundation's program participants. Families 325 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 3: already living there include a gold Star family and the 326 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 3: families of two severely injured veterans who live in new 327 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 3: smart homes. 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And after three years 359 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 2: of the absolute abuse that our laws have received the 360 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 2: hands of the Biden administration, as it pertains to well 361 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 2: everything but also specifically illegal immigration. This is a rebuke 362 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 2: I think of those senators, but it's not nearly enough. 363 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 2: And play I think that we're going to see numbers, 364 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 2: as I've said, crossing into the eight million threshold, which 365 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 2: will mean that Biden has almost double the census data 366 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 2: it usually says around eleven point eight million. I think 367 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 2: going into COVID, so by twenty twenty, from twenty twenty 368 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 2: to present, you will have added eight million to the 369 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 2: call it twelve million, so it's a massive increase. We 370 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 2: all know that this isn't going to stop anytime soon. 371 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 2: Something else that was just on my radar. Do you 372 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 2: see this? I know, I know it doesn't mean anything 373 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 2: in terms of votes electoral votes, right, but in Nevada's 374 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 2: symbolic Republican primary. Let's be honest, how many is even 375 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 2: new that they how many of us even knew that 376 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 2: they did this? The caucus is tomorrow, I believe, right, 377 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 2: isn't it? Or is it no? Too? Wait? Yes, whatever, 378 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 2: it's a mess. 379 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 3: They have a primary and a caucus and it's hard 380 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 3: to even figure out what they were doing. But the 381 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 3: caucus is where all the delegates get awarded, and the 382 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 3: primary was just for sit and people had to choose 383 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 3: do you want to be in the primary or the caucus? 384 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 3: And right, so it is tomorrow, by the way, I 385 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 3: was just making sure I gave you the refer if 386 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 3: you're happen to be a Nevada voter listening to the show, 387 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 3: Tomorrow is the caucus. But Nikki Haley lost to none 388 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 3: of the above because Trump wasn't on the symbolic primary ballot. 389 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 3: And this is pretty funny when you think about it. 390 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 3: People went out of their way to vote none of 391 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 3: the above in this primary really just as a I 392 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 3: think a shot across the battle of the Haley campaign, 393 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 3: which at this point I have to wonder what is 394 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 3: the point and we've been asking that for a while now, 395 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 3: but why keep it going? I look, it's indefensible and 396 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 3: to me that Nicki Haley is still going. And my concern, 397 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 3: we talked about this on the program in the wake 398 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 3: of the Saturday results that came out of South Carolina. 399 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 3: Concern is that there are one hundred plus thousand Democrats 400 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 3: waiting to show up and show support for Nicki Haley 401 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 3: in South Carolina. They're going to cross over and vote 402 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 3: in the Republican primary because almost nobody voted in the 403 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 3: Democrat primary. We had a caller who called in and said, 404 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 3: Nicki Haley is sending out text basically making this argument 405 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 3: They're going to try to embarrass Trump in South Carolina. 406 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 3: I think they're gonna fail, but they're going to try, 407 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 3: and then they want to make him have to spend 408 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 3: money on the Super Tuesday coming up on March fifth, 409 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 3: when Nicki Haley is going to encourage lots of Democrats 410 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 3: to show up and vote for her in open primaries 411 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 3: all over the country. 412 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 2: And I'll give you an example. 413 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 3: My home state of Tennessee, Trump is going to win 414 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,239 Speaker 3: among Republicans by eighty points. I mean, I'm not even 415 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 3: kidding about that, buck. I think it's going to be 416 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 3: Nicki Haley Trump on the ballot. I think Trump will 417 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 3: win ninety to ten in among actual Republicans, not going 418 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 3: to be close in my home state. Already said March fifth, 419 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 3: I'm going to go and I'm going to push the 420 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 3: pull the lever, push the button, whatever you have to 421 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 3: do for Trump in the twenty twenty four primary season. 422 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 3: Because I think Nicky Haley's done. Trump's going to be 423 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 3: the nominee. I'm going to support him. I'm going to 424 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 3: fight as hard as I can for the rest of 425 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 3: this year to get him elected in November. 426 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 2: And I know many of you are going to do 427 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 2: the same. 428 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 3: But there's going to be a lot of Democrats in 429 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 3: my state of Tennessee that they're going to try to 430 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 3: convince to cross over and vote in the Republican primary. 431 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 2: And they're going to try to do that. 432 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 3: I believe it's eleven of the sixteen states have open primaries, 433 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 3: and they're going to try to drag this on as 434 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 3: long as they can, to bleed out Trump and try 435 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 3: to cost money from him that could otherwise be spent 436 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 3: going against Biden. 437 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 2: So there may be an unintended effect of this as well, 438 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: because I think that Trump voters whenever this pop Whenever 439 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 2: this pops up, this strategy of just drag it out, 440 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 2: have Democrats throw in their lot with Haley and all this, 441 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 2: it agitates them and mobilizes them, so they are more 442 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 2: likely to go out in numbers. Right. I'm not saying 443 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 2: that cancels out all the Democrats and everything else, but 444 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 2: I do think it's a part of it, And it 445 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 2: really further in many ways, consolidates the de facto status 446 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 2: of Trump as the nominee, because if his only competition 447 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,479 Speaker 2: out there needs Democrat votes in a handful of states 448 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 2: to even make it close, Trump is the Republican nominee, right, 449 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 2: so we all know that. So if the strategy relies 450 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 2: on those kinds of shenanigans, it's really a tacit admission 451 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 2: that it's already over now. They're just trying to be annoying. Yeah, 452 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 2: And I don't know how successful they'll be in that annoyingness. 453 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: No, And. 454 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 3: When I saw Nicki Haley show up on SNL, who's 455 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 3: advising her? Buck, Because if you were being if you 456 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 3: were a rational advisor of Nicki Haley, you would say, Hey, 457 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 3: it's not going to work for you in twenty twenty four. 458 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 3: Maybe you can consider the cabinet, or you can chill 459 00:24:58,600 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 3: for a couple of years. You got a lot of 460 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 3: name recognition, You outlasted a lot of other people who 461 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 3: were running in the in the primary. Well, you raised 462 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 3: a lot of money. People who are going to support 463 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 3: you did support you in twenty four. A lot of 464 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 3: them will support you in twenty eight. It's time to 465 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 3: get behind Trump. Biden's a disaster and we all have 466 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 3: to be aligned to go after Trump. I don't understand. 467 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 3: I understand sometimes you have to have such blinders on 468 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 3: when you run for president because it's a crazy thing 469 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,959 Speaker 3: I think to do. And a lot of your advisors 470 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 3: have to have blinders on too, because even if you 471 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 3: talk back in the day, Buck, when Obama ran in eight, 472 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 3: I remember his advisors came out and said, we thought 473 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 3: we had like a ten percent chance of winning when 474 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 3: he took on Hillary. They never thought that they were 475 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,719 Speaker 3: going to end up president of the United States. I 476 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 3: think when Trump came down that escalator in twenty fifteen, 477 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 3: a lot of the early advisors of Trump never thought 478 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 3: they were going to win in sixteen. Because there's nineteen 479 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 3: guys out there running, you don't know whether you're going 480 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 3: to win or not. And you have to be almost 481 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 3: maniacally focused on the idea and the dream and the concept, 482 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 3: even when many people tell you it's ridiculous. But at 483 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 3: some point you also have to have somebody who is 484 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 3: the reality soothsayer, who will sit you down and say, look, Nikki, 485 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 3: it ain't happening. 486 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 2: And if you want to. 487 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 3: Be president one day, and clearly you do, based on 488 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 3: how hard you're working, you have to find an exit 489 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 3: ramp and start to prepare for twenty eight, when you 490 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 3: will be one of the leading contenders in twenty eight 491 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 3: if you exit this race appropriately, and right now she's 492 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 3: failing that test of how do you accept defeat gracefully? 493 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 2: I don't see what the point is for her. There's 494 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 2: no point in terms of trying to shape the future 495 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 2: destiny of the country or the future and destiny of 496 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 2: the country by staying in this because she might win 497 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 2: she's not going to win. It's not going to happen. 498 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 2: And Ron Desantus made that the decision. 499 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 3: Buck and I think left as gracefully as you can 500 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 3: as a defeated candidate. And I think many Trump people, 501 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,959 Speaker 3: although there may still be some sore feelings now in 502 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 3: twenty twenty eight, I think a lot of Trump voters, 503 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 3: when the primary season comes around, we'll look at all 504 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 3: the candidates and they'll say, you know what, Ron's the 505 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 3: best choice. 506 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 2: I think a lot of Trump people are going to make. 507 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 3: That choice again four years from now when we go 508 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 3: into a new primary season. 509 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I did not like it all. It was 510 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 2: it was silly some of the oh but Ron and 511 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 2: all the others. It was all wasted money to even 512 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 2: run against Trump. But no, you're allowed to try. You're allowed. 513 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 2: We have a system for a reason, a primary, but 514 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 2: there's you're allowed to try. And then there's calling for 515 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 2: your fifth bathroom break in a row in the third 516 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 2: set when you're about to lose, right Like, at some 517 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 2: point it just becomes pathetic. And uh, that's a tennis 518 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 2: reference for those of you who were the sport, the 519 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 2: only sport that I know pretty well. But at some 520 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 2: point it's clear to everybody but the candidate, and then 521 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 2: it does start to feel like you're doing the bidding 522 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 2: of the Democrats. Yeah, well, all you're doing is slowing 523 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 2: down the Trump train with no benefit for you, or 524 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 2: the country or anyone else. 525 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 3: I think it's appropriate at the end for the you 526 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 3: guys who are hockey fans or your basketball fans, or 527 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 3: football fans or whatever else. Getting your ass kicked is 528 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 3: a part of sports. No matter how good you are, 529 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 3: somebody's gonna lose the Super Bowl and they had an 530 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 3: incredible season. I think there's a value in shaking the 531 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 3: hand of the guy who kicked your ass and acknowledging 532 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 3: that you were going ahead to head as hard as 533 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 3: you could in the competition. Scoreboard's over, game's over, you 534 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 3: shake hands, you show respect, and you try to kick 535 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 3: the guy's ass the next time you play, right. I 536 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 3: do think there's a value in that, whether it's you know, 537 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 3: little league baseball, which I'm coaching right now, game ends, 538 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 3: you should go shake hands with the opponent, whether you 539 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 3: win or lose, and win with grace and lose with 540 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 3: grace as well. And I think Desantus did that. I 541 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 3: don't think Nikki Haley's doing it, and I don't understand 542 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 3: who's advising her. I think she's getting really poor direction. 543 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 3: We'll see, maybe you know, she should call in, we 544 00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 3: should get her to join. 545 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 2: She's refusing to come on the show. I saw where 546 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 2: she's going on CNN. Now she won't come on the 547 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 2: show because we've been too tough on her the fact 548 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 2: that she lost the race. This is always a telling 549 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 2: moment when someone won't come on the platforms that speak 550 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 2: to conservatives across the country, but they're really happy to 551 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 2: hang out in the green room and go on stage 552 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 2: and you know, do the dance for she'll. 553 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 3: Do Saturday Night Live and not the biggest audience out 554 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 3: there of people that theoretically are persuadable. 555 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 2: I think that's significant. I would think so too. 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Prize Picks, pick more, pick less, It's that easy. 591 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: Twenty four Clay and Bucks Weekly Campaign Cliff Notes episodes 592 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: dropped Sundays at noon Eastern on the Free iHeartRadio app 593 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. 594 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 595 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 3: I was sad earlier this week on the show to 596 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 3: hear Buck Sexton go after Queen Elizabeth Rest in peace 597 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 3: Queen Elizabeth and say that she was not that great 598 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 3: of queen and go after the royal family in general. 599 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 2: It pained my heart. But now Buck has a strong ally. 600 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 3: Whoop be Goldberg also pulled out the sword and went 601 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 3: after Queen Elizabeth on the view yesterday. 602 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 2: Buck, this is who you're rolling with. Listen. We're sending on. 603 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 5: Good vibes out and support to King Charles, who was 604 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 5: recently diagnosed with cancer. 605 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 3: This is this is. 606 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 2: He waited so long? 607 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: So long? 608 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 5: I mean the woman was in the position for seventy years, 609 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 5: you know, and the longest reign. I think that she 610 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 5: could have used some term limits. Why not step down 611 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 5: and let Charles have stay in? This on the poor guy. 612 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 5: He finally gets to be king and now he has 613 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 5: an illness? 614 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 2: All right? 615 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 3: Joy behar whoopee Goldberg Buck Sexton a trio of. 616 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 2: What was she even saying? Though? 617 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 3: I think I think she's blaming the queen for not 618 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 3: dying earlier. She wanted her to step down. 619 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 2: It's so stupid, it's not even wrong. It's a non 620 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 2: secular What is she even talking about? 621 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 3: It's stupid, it's not even wrong. Is an amazing line. 622 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 3: This is a really good line. I mean that kind 623 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 3: of sums up the view in general. So stupid it's 624 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 3: not even wrong would be an amazing tagline for that show, 625 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 3: which I saw. Buck is having one of its best 626 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 3: years of ratings ever? Did you see that headlined? I 627 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 3: don't know how they define ratings like granted you can 628 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 3: in television. You could pull one segment whatever. It's sometimes 629 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 3: hard to know exactly what's going on, but but yeah. 630 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 2: This is this is the view Queen Elizabeth. 631 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 3: I think crazily this this Charles thing, the way it's covered, 632 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 3: it sounds like it may be very very serious cancer. 633 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 3: They said that Prince Harry flew over and this may 634 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 3: turn into a situation where he truly is only on 635 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 3: the throne for a very short period of time. 636 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 2: He's only in there eighteen months. But again, I don't 637 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 2: understand why any American feel you know, this is yeah, 638 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 2: it's it's sad, and I, you know, thoughts in prayers 639 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 2: for the King of England. I feel no differently about this, 640 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 2: though than if you told me that there was, you know, 641 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 2: cancer in the I don't know, the second Prince of 642 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 2: Denmark or something, who cares. I don't understand why no 643 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 2: one in this country should feel any particular connection or 644 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 2: allegiance to the British royal fan That's what I don't get. 645 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,479 Speaker 3: We remember when Spare came out and you made all 646 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 3: these arguments, and I was like, a million people in 647 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 3: America are going to. 648 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:08,720 Speaker 2: Buy this book. 649 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 3: It's like the best book of twenty twenty three, best 650 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 3: selling book at twenty twenty three. 651 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 2: If I I mean, I didn't say that you were wrong. 652 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 2: It was it was going to sell a lot of books. 653 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 2: There's a public fascination with this, but it's a fairy tale. 654 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 2: It's not a reality. This notion of the royal family 655 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 2: is I didn't even know what people think that it's 656 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 2: supposed to do anymore. 657 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 3: I don't think they know what they're supposed to do. Well, 658 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 3: that's a challenge for sure. No. By the way, Tim 659 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 3: and Upstate New York, you've got a theory on Nicki. 660 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 2: Haley ad me on. 661 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 6: I'd like to say that we all know Nicky was 662 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 6: bought out by Democrat donors. I think they're the ones 663 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 6: calling the shot. It definitely cost her a chance at 664 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 6: VP and probably will end up getting her out of 665 00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,240 Speaker 6: the state of South Carolina. 666 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 3: Look, thanks for the call, Buck, if you were what 667 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 3: is Nicky Hayley's game plan right now? I can't even 668 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 3: in the same way when we said to Santas needed 669 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 3: to drop out, I would sit there and I would say, Okay, logically, 670 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 3: what's the game plan? 671 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 2: It's that like Trump what I don't even see the 672 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 2: game plan. You don't watch Outlander, which is much Corere. 673 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 2: By the way, maybe you'd feel differently about the British 674 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 2: royal family if you watch some good historical fiction about 675 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 2: the Scots and the Irish, you know, you'd have a 676 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 2: slightly different feeling, you know, watch some Braveheart. But anyway, 677 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 2: Long Shanks the Tyrant. So here's the thing. If you 678 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 2: watch that, you'll remember that there's a what is it, 679 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 2: Bonnie Prince Charlie who's supposed to lead the Jacobite rebellion. 680 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,760 Speaker 2: And it should have been very clear at numerous points 681 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 2: this guy had absolutely no shot to defeat the British 682 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 2: and to take the British crown and all the rest 683 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 2: of it. But he was delusional, right, He was delusional, 684 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 2: and he kept going because the ego can burrow so 685 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 2: deep inside the control center of the brain that there's 686 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 2: really nothing else. I think Nicky Haley realizes if it's 687 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 2: not this, what, and I think that's I don't think 688 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 2: there's some grand strategy here. It's the Bonnie Prince Charlie approach. 689 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have everybody pretend like we're gonna win when 690 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 2: I can't win. I knew that things 691 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 3: Were getting wacky for Nicky Haley when the New York 692 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 3: Times had a front page story about how great her 693 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 3: relationship is with her husband.