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Speaker 1: Slim the ground by Buda Baker like a torpedo. He

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Speaker 1: came flying into the backfield, Pins Girt and nobody. Here's

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Speaker 1: Paul Calvc. All right, it's just a super Bowl edition

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Speaker 1: of Cardinals Underground, No biggie beyond that. Just a supersized

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Speaker 1: edition of Cardinal's Underground with your true League PAULI Podcast,

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Speaker 1: Darren Urban, Danny Serek, who's been struggling over there with

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Speaker 1: the ergonomics over here at the flagship radio station in

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Speaker 1: Are You're good, Danny, You're good on all fronts right now?

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Speaker 1: I am. This is the first time I've been in

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Speaker 1: the studio, so I'm adjusting to the new microphone. I'm

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Speaker 1: adjusting to the chair where they're back kind of pushes

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Speaker 1: so as I was zipping up, my jacket kind of

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Speaker 1: fell backwards a little more than I expected. But I

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Speaker 1: think I'm ready now. Danny's self contained. Normally, she's used

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Speaker 1: to a floor director in the TV studio helping her

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Speaker 1: out with everything. She's got to handle it herself. It's

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Speaker 1: good for Paul. Do you want to explain why we're

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Speaker 1: even in the studio, Well, the Eagles have taken over

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Speaker 1: Cardinals headquarters, the Dignity Health Training Center, the Eagles, the

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Speaker 1: NFC representative Ken Jalen Hurt's doing a podcast. Apparently I'm

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Speaker 1: the studio. I already said earlier on the Red Sea Report.

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Speaker 1: Nobody touched my stapler capeche Okay, they're in our building

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Speaker 1: right now. Once upon a time, the last time this

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Speaker 1: Bowl was in town, the Patriots took over the Cardinals facility.

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Speaker 1: But if I recall correctly, we still got to spend

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Speaker 1: half days in there, and now it's just no bueno.

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Speaker 1: They covered all the windows though, so if you were

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Speaker 1: the practice fields. And the CEO of the Patriots himself,

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Speaker 1: otherwise known as the Hall of Famer the head coach,

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Speaker 1: made sure all of the windows were covered once upon

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Speaker 1: a time. That shouldn't surprise anybody. I actually was blindfolded

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Speaker 1: when I had to enter the building, so there, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all your recording devices were confiscated upon entry. No, none

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Speaker 1: of that going on. By the way, there's only two

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Speaker 1: for Super Bowl fifty seven. There's the media person who

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Speaker 1: actually asked Nick Sirianni if super Bowl fifty seven is

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Speaker 1: I don't know who exactly was that person responsible. Danny,

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Speaker 1: What was it with a straight face? I believe so

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Speaker 1: I couldn't see that. I mean, it was a guy

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Speaker 1: And I'm hoping it was more of a troll question

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Speaker 1: obviously the traffic around town. Everyone's experience that. Did you

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Speaker 1: this year's Super Bowl? Danny, you're on the spot. What

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Speaker 1: When you going, I'm gonna tell Tim, hey, next time

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Speaker 1: Danny asked for a raise, and just make and then

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Speaker 1: you won't have to worry about it to sell, don't

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Speaker 1: hire Danny as my representative as my agent going forward.

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Speaker 1: That's that's all I'm gonna say over that runt. By

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Speaker 1: the way, since we'll just get all the Danny related

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Speaker 1: Your Texas angle on this one is that you're going

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Speaker 1: high school phenoms in the state of Texas. So just

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Speaker 1: gonna say, are you telling me that means Kyler Murray's

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Speaker 1: on deck? So you're saying there's a chance, So there

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Speaker 1: What I'm saying is, once upon a time, Danny western

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Speaker 1: So Bool, that's a flex for you over there. Sure

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Speaker 1: your start maybe in flag football, Danny, did you see

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Speaker 1: who watched at any of the Pro Bowl games over

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Speaker 1: And to come full circle on the ads. By the way, Danny,

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Speaker 1: there's no crypto ads this year. There's there's no like

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Speaker 1: Bowl this year. So I know you were going to

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Speaker 1: a question for Darren. So I actually brought my bingo

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Speaker 1: I left it in my apartment. So, Darren, are we

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Speaker 1: counting things that are said by Paul today on bingo

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Speaker 1: next week, how long before you get an announcement on

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Speaker 1: be next week, Darren, Now that we're reportedly down to

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Speaker 1: a final two Mike Kafka and lu Ana Rumo. Wow,

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Speaker 1: the final two reportedly and a Mike Kafka and lou

428
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Speaker 1: Anna Rumo, two candidates who couldn't be more different. Whether

429
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Speaker 1: it's offense versus defense, whether it's thirty five year old

430
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Speaker 1: versus fifty six year old, whether it's East Coast guy

431
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Speaker 1: stann Island lou versus you know, kafcoes supposedly really hip

432
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Speaker 1: and you know, and and it relates to well to

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Speaker 1: the players. I mean, Danny, you tell us you've got

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Speaker 1: a gut feeling and or do you have an opinion

435
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Speaker 1: as to where do you think you'd like to see

436
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Speaker 1: this go? Ultimately, it's interesting because for the most part

437
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Speaker 1: of this search, the Cardinals have been looking for a

438
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Speaker 1: head coach who has that experience on the defensive side

439
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Speaker 1: of the ball. So to have Mike Kafka get this

440
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:10,479
Speaker 1: far in the process, they clearly really like him. I

441
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,880
Speaker 1: think there's just a lot of questions that we obviously

442
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Speaker 1: won't know until that head coach is hired. When it

443
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Speaker 1: comes to play calling, right, would would Kafka who has

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Speaker 1: that offensive mind call plays? Would he be the offensive coordinator?

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Speaker 1: Would he brings someone in? Because I think that is

446
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Speaker 1: how you I would imagine all these candidates stand out.

447
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 1: Is what is your plan for Kyler Murray in this offense,

448
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Speaker 1: especially all these defensive coordinators that are coming in. What

449
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Speaker 1: kind of staff are you going to build and how

450
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Speaker 1: are you going to take Kyler Murray and allow Kyler

451
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Speaker 1: Murray to take this offense to the next level. So

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Speaker 1: that's really interesting to me is I don't necessarily think that,

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Speaker 1: coming off of Cliff Kingsbury that offensive mind, that you

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Speaker 1: have to completely go one eighty and go defense in

455
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Speaker 1: order for this team to make a complete turnaround. I

456
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Speaker 1: don't necessarily think that's the way you have to go

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Speaker 1: about it. It would make sense, and that kind of

458
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Speaker 1: seems that that is the way the Cardinals approach has looked,

459
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Speaker 1: which is pretty common. So I'm not sure that I

460
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Speaker 1: would have necessarily a preference. I don't necessarily know that

461
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Speaker 1: I know enough about either one of them. I wouldn't

462
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Speaker 1: be surprised either way. Of advanced Joseph and part of

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Speaker 1: this defensive staff stays that for some reason, that's just

464
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Speaker 1: a gut feeling of mine. I think that Vance Joseph

465
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Speaker 1: is very highly respected, and they obviously gave him a

466
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Speaker 1: head coach interview. He didn't get a second one. But

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Speaker 1: even if you hire a defensive coordinator as your new

468
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Speaker 1: head coach, I wouldn't necessarily rule that out. Well, I

469
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Speaker 1: got a couple of things that popped in my mind

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Speaker 1: as you're talking about this with Mike Kafka. Kafka, Kafka, sorry,

471
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Speaker 1: Olms Kafka. I keep coming back in my head, and again,

472
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Speaker 1: we're not in those rooms. We are not in the

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Speaker 1: room when these guys have gone through their number, their

474
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Speaker 1: hours of interviews to get really the nitty gritty of

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Speaker 1: what they're like. We're operating on speculation, even reporters that

476
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Speaker 1: talk about these guys. I mean, we know some of

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Speaker 1: the assistants for the Cardinals, but could we really give

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Speaker 1: you a deep dive on what kind of head coach

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Speaker 1: Spencer Whipple would would make. I don't think you could,

480
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Speaker 1: even even though we've known him for four years. And

481
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Speaker 1: that's the thing. We're not in these interviews. But with Kafka,

482
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Speaker 1: for me, I keep thinking to myself, is he in

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Speaker 1: some ways a at least in the Cardinals eyes a

484
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Speaker 1: potentially improved version of Cliff Kingsbury. Younger coach deals with

485
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Speaker 1: players well, former quarterback, former quarterback, but has NFL experience

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Speaker 1: in terms of coaching and has been around NFL style

487
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Speaker 1: coaching that maybe Cliff hadn't been around. So maybe you're

488
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 1: trying to improve it there a little bit as opposed

489
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Speaker 1: to Anna Rumo, who you know, that's just strictly old school,

490
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Speaker 1: that would be flipping to the exact opposite of what

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Speaker 1: they already had. The Vance Joseph thing is very intriguing

492
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Speaker 1: to me. Lou Anna Rumo was on Vance Joseph's staff

493
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Speaker 1: in Miami when Javans Joseph was the defensive coordinator, so

494
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Speaker 1: he knows, Lou would that be something where it could

495
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Speaker 1: get flipped. Kafka is the same kind of thing. Now

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Speaker 1: if I'm Vance Joseph, it's a tough situation being asked

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Speaker 1: after you thought maybe you'd have a chance at being

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Speaker 1: the head coach to stay on as a defensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: and if it's Kafka, in a lot of ways, if

500
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Speaker 1: we're we just got through talking about Cliff Kingsbury, maybe

501
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Speaker 1: you're trying to make an improvement there, are you going

502
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Speaker 1: to ask Vance Joseph to continue in the role that

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Speaker 1: he kind of already had, which was, I'm going to

504
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Speaker 1: have this defensive, this smart, savvy, veteran X head coach,

505
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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator on the staff to kind of help out

506
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Speaker 1: my young, offensive minded head coach. Is that fair to Vans?

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Speaker 1: It's a similar dynamic to when you hired Cliff Kingsbury

508
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Speaker 1: and installed Vance Joseph. You're right, it would be a

509
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Speaker 1: similar dynamic. That's a tough ask. Although we recall back

510
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Speaker 1: in the day Ray Horton was hoping to get the

511
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Speaker 1: head coaching job in twenty thirteen, he was interviewed, he

512
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Speaker 1: was the defensive coordinator. He didn't get it, and then

513
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Speaker 1: I think he was still hoping to be Bruce Arians

514
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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. Didn't get that because of Bruce Arians with

515
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Speaker 1: Todd Bulls. But I don't know Vance's thought process on this,

516
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Speaker 1: but those will go through my mind. But it is

517
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Speaker 1: intriguing that Vance Joseph, Aaron Glenn Brian Callahan reportedly three

518
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Speaker 1: candidates who are out of the running, Advanced Joseph is

519
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Speaker 1: still an Arizona Cardinal, and that the two finalists seemingly

520
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Speaker 1: would have a place for Vance Joseph. Yes, whether it's

521
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Speaker 1: an offensive minded head coach and needs a defensive coordinator,

522
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Speaker 1: or it's if it's the defensive minded head coach who

523
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Speaker 1: worked with Vance Joseph once upon a time. So there

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Speaker 1: does appear to be a fit in either scenario if

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Speaker 1: they do continue. And there are a number of other

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Speaker 1: assistants who are still under contract and still members of

527
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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. So to what degree to a whole

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Speaker 1: bunch of assistance, especially on the defensive side of the ball,

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Speaker 1: continue with the Cardinals. That's an unknown. But to your

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Speaker 1: point also about the unknown of these two, I mean

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Speaker 1: a Mike Kafka can walk into interview number two and

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Speaker 1: he can continue to show a pretty convincing case of

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Speaker 1: what he did with Daniel Jones, the quarterback taken five

534
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Speaker 1: spots after Kyler Murray. Look at the before and after

535
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Speaker 1: this year, Mike Kafka's only year with the Giants. Daniel

536
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: Jones was a totally different quarterback. He was a turnover

537
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Speaker 1: machine his first three years, not the case this past season.

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Speaker 1: And did he have a lot of star receivers with

539
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Speaker 1: the Giants? No? Did he have an outstanding offensive line, No,

540
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Speaker 1: he was the play caller Brian Dabele did outsource that

541
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Speaker 1: to Mike Kafko, whose previous coaching gig was with Patrick Mahomes.

542
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Speaker 1: And we heard Mahomes talk about that Super Bowl media

543
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Speaker 1: day and then you have a lou Anna Rumo and

544
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Speaker 1: I was talking with Kyle Vannabosh and Craig Grio earlier.

545
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Speaker 1: If you go out to some of these Super Bowl fans,

546
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Speaker 1: football fans, ask him to name two players on the

547
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Speaker 1: Bengals defense, I think they could do it. I mean

548
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Speaker 1: Pat Man Jones. This there's my point case in point

549
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: Frosty Rucker Demko. Ryan's obviously appears to be a wonderful

550
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: head coach in the making, and he was an outstanding

551
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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. He had a lot of dudes, had a

552
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Speaker 1: lot of names, had a lot of All pros on

553
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: that Niners defense, where there are a lot of no

554
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: names on the Bengals defense. What's what's the saying Jimmy

555
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: and Joe's beats, Xes and O's and lou Anna Rumos.

556
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Speaker 1: So I could see where he gives you a pretty

557
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Speaker 1: convincing case of him being able to do more with

558
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Speaker 1: less in terms of his roster on that side of

559
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Speaker 1: the ball. Again, I'm gonna go back, Paul to what

560
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,239
Speaker 1: we were just talking about, which is we think we know,

561
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Speaker 1: but ultimately we're not going to until it plays out,

562
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Speaker 1: until somebody gets hired, and then we see what happens.

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Speaker 1: And even then, I mean, with the way the roster

564
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Speaker 1: is right now, there is probably gonna have to be

565
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Speaker 1: some patience and it's not all gonna fall and and

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Speaker 1: it's funny we talk about these coordinators and it always

567
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: it comes down to the players. And I understand coaching

568
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: means something in this league, there's no question about it.

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Speaker 1: But if you go back in twenty nineteen, because lou

570
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Speaker 1: Anna Rumo has been the defensive coordinator since twenty nineteen,

571
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Speaker 1: right in Cincinnati, fans were ready for him to be

572
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Speaker 1: fired in twenty nineteen, they wanted him fired in twenty twenty.

573
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: It was ugly those first couple of years. And now

574
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Speaker 1: it's like, oh my god, we might lose them. That's terrible.

575
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Speaker 1: And it's again again, it's about results. I get it,

576
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: but it's also about players. And I think there's nuance

577
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: here with all these coaches that gets lost, especially in

578
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: today's fast food, social media world. So did you guys

579
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Speaker 1: realize I did not know this that the Eagles, the

580
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: Eagles and super Bowl fifty seven have all twenty two

581
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Speaker 1: Week one starters on the field, right all twenty two

582
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Speaker 1: The guys who started Week one for the Eagles will

583
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Speaker 1: start super Bowl fifty seven. That sounds unheard of. Think

584
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: about mind boggling that is coming off a Cardinals season

585
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: where you used eighty different players over the course of

586
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Speaker 1: one year. I had a question in the mail back

587
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: this week that said, you know what the what's the

588
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: biggest thing that a team the Cardinals need to do

589
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: to get back to the Super Bowl. And I'm not

590
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Speaker 1: going to get into a lot of the details because

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00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: there's tons of things. But one thing I didn't mention

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Speaker 1: is health. Paul, You've I know, I've mentioned it on

593
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: this before. The year the Cardinals made the Super Bowl,

594
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: their offensive line was okay, it was not great, it

595
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: was okay. But they started all sixteen regular season games

596
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: and all four postseason games and they didn't miss a

597
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: start and that was a big read and why they

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Speaker 1: were there. Well, some of it is health. I saw

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00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: stat last week Kansas City missed two games from starting

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00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: offensive linement all year. The Eagles missed three. Think about

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00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: that only two starts missed by I think it was

602
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: a left guard for the Chiefs and a tackle and

603
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: a guard three total for the Eagles. You're talking about

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Speaker 1: a season in the NFL. I also saw this where

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00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: a total of sixty eight quarterbacks started at least one

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Speaker 1: game this past year. That's an NFL record for a

607
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Speaker 1: non strike year. Sixty eight different quarterbacks started at least

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Speaker 1: one game in the NFL, and a record thirteen teams

609
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: used to at least three starting quarterbacks this last season,

610
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Speaker 1: including obviously the Arizona Cardinals, who started four. Every team

611
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: deals with injury, and we talked about this all year,

612
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: but the point to which the Cardinals were having to

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00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: deal with injury was outrageous. And that's not necessarily anyone's fault.

614
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: That's just, unfortunately sometimes the way the cookie crumbles, and

615
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: that makes it difficult when you don't have a consistent lineup,

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Speaker 1: When you don't have a consistent starting offensive line, you're

617
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: changing your quarterbacks sometimes late in the week, or your

618
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: wide receivers are constantly being moved around because you don't

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Speaker 1: have everybody healthy. And that's just talking about the offense,

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00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: not even looking at the defense. I mean that obviously

621
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Speaker 1: makes your job very difficult when it comes to making

622
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: sure everyone out there knows the plays that are being called,

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Speaker 1: and you're trying to cater to everybody's strengths that are

624
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Speaker 1: out there and create this cohesion that isn't really there,

625
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Speaker 1: and that chemistry really only comes by practicing together. And

626
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: so when you have these players who are not starters

627
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Speaker 1: during the week because you have your starters out there

628
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Speaker 1: seeing if they can work through injury, and so they're

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Speaker 1: not getting those reps together, and then you go out

630
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Speaker 1: on game day and you're having to play together. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's that's difficult, and that's part of it that I

632
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: understand that you know, the coaches, the players, that's part

633
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: of the game and you have to overcome that. But

634
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: it was like a different level for the Cardinals this

635
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: year the last two months of the season. Billy Cardinals

636
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: backup center who started the second half of the season.

637
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Speaker 1: How many times did you tell the media how difficult

638
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: it was to come in, not only a as a

639
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: new player to the system, be the quarterback of the

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Speaker 1: offensive line of b We can't even practice. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about practice, man, right, I Mean it's the Allen Iverson

642
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: We can't even practice because our offensive line is so

643
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: banged up we can't put on the pads. So now

644
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: I'm going from glorified walkthroughs to trying to block Aaron

645
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: Donald and I'm trying to perfect a combo block with

646
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: my left guard. And we've never even worked together on

647
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: a full speed drill, full contact drill, so there's a

648
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: degree of difficulty there. But if we know one thing

649
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: about the NFL, it's a copycat league. And I thought

650
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: this was interesting too. You're wondering, Okay, was it just

651
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: merely luck that the Eagles stayed so healthy all year

652
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: long or was there something to it? And the Eagles

653
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 1: starting this year push back the start times for practice

654
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: and for meetings, allowing the players to sleep in more

655
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: and have more recover time. And there's a lot of

656
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: people would think internally with the Eagles that was key.

657
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: And with Cliff Kingsbury, you talk about doing the opposite

658
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: from one head coach in the next. He was an

659
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: early morning guy. I wonder dot dot dot if whoever

660
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: comes in if they're going to adopt a later schedule

661
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: just a because it can't get much earlier than Cliff Kingsbury.

662
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: But b I wonder if other teams are gonna start

663
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: follow that regiment. That's fascinating. I hadn't heard that. Of course,

664
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: that would be crushing for me because I'm an early

665
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: morning guy and I'd rather get everything out of the

666
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: way early. But different deadlines for you, Darren, different deadlines

667
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: for me. But that makes a lot of sense. I mean,

668
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: there's no question that there's overall, not just in the NFL,

669
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: for athletes, there's been a bigger push for people getting

670
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: enough sleep. I know Danny gets in her sleep enough,

671
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: but the rest of us, I sawry. I can't even

672
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: see you. I've I've now lost my posture in my seat,

673
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: So now you're just a fare might be sleeping right

674
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,720
Speaker 1: now and you can't tell. You can't see her, but

675
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: that is what's happening. Yes, she's nodding as Darren talk.

676
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: She's falling asleep. That's what she's saying. I could. I'm

677
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: not boring, um, I could. I could totally see that.

678
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: And look, there's there's bigger and there's faster guys out

679
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: there all the time in the NFL, and that also

680
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 1: does not help the situation. You know, you go back

681
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: and look at some of these super Bowl highlight films

682
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: from like the mid seventies, and their offensive linemen like

683
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 1: they half of them are like two hundred and thirty pounds,

684
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,439
Speaker 1: and it's like, what are we looking at here? So

685
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 1: I saw this story on the Eagles, and I couldn't

686
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: help but notice some parallels, potential parallels to what you

687
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: would hope we'd be in Arizona Cardinals. Turnaround, tell me

688
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: if this is this holds water or not there's any

689
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: this or not? All right, you're talking about an Eagles

690
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: team in the Super Bowl that in the pandemic shortened

691
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 1: twenty twenty season, finished four eleven and one, okay, four

692
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: eleven and one that year, and they proceeded to fire

693
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: the head coach was coming off a Super Bowl too

694
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: three years earlier. They got rid of the quarterback, absorbing

695
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: a thirty four million dollar cap hit when they got

696
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: rid of Carson Wentz, and at the time, the owner

697
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: and the GM were criticized for meddling and interfering with

698
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 1: game plans and play calling. If you remember back, Jeffrey Lurie,

699
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: Howie Roseman, Nick Sirianni came to Philadelphia zero fanfare zero

700
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: as a Colts unknown assistant coach. I'm just sort of

701
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: noticing some of these parallels. Two. Okay, you know it

702
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily have to be multiple years of non winning football.

703
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: Look at out quickly. The Eagles were able to turn

704
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: this around. And obviously the big key was the eye

705
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: for talent. Howie Roseman and his staff. They drafted very well,

706
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: they signed, make trades, free agency very well. So for

707
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: everything we're talking about with the coach and all these

708
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: other things, to me, the key is, did you get

709
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: Annie austin Ford right? And as Dave sears, that guy

710
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: as the assistant jam and can do the two of

711
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 1: those start adding talent immediately. Absolutely, you have to give

712
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: credit to the Eagles front office when it comes to

713
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: assessing talent and how they draft. And Jim and Mahandro

714
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: was telling us earlier today, I believe it's eleven of

715
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: the eagles twelve starters are draft picks. That's incredible to

716
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: have that eye for talent. And I don't want to

717
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: sound too much like Darren, I do believe that you

718
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: can turn things around quickly, Paul. But the Eagles, there

719
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 1: wasn't a chance that you have your franchise quarterback missing

720
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: possibly a third maybe more to start the season with

721
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and the ACL recovery. There's a lot of

722
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: decisions that have to be made on your offensive line

723
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: because how many do you have under contract next year

724
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: of your starters? One your left tackle, yep, J Humphries.

725
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 1: There's just it's a lot of decisions. And I don't

726
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: want that to sound like there's no hope for the

727
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: Cardinals moving forward, because I don't feel that way at all. Well,

728
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: look at the two games A jail and hurts miss

729
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: for the Eagles. They lost both. It's just and Monie

730
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: awesome for it. He used the word opportunities. So when

731
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: all the free agents and decisions that have to be made,

732
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: and that's what it is, it's an opportunity to really

733
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: turn things around. And I do think there is a chance,

734
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: if you get this right, that you can have that

735
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: turnaround in this year. I do believe that. I do

736
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 1: believe if you have all the other pieces, you can

737
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: have a backup quarterback and you can win at least

738
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: enough games to keep you in it so that when

739
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray comes back, you can really take off. There's

740
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: just a lot of questions, not just on the offense,

741
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: but the defense. As well. You have a lot of

742
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: big pending free agents and decisions that have to be made.

743
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,919
Speaker 1: So it's a matter of finding the right head coach,

744
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: creating the right staff, and like the Eagles drafting, well,

745
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: you have to. You're at the point where you have

746
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: to start getting enough out of your draft picks, and

747
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: not just in the first two or three years, but

748
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: draft picks that you can have for the long future

749
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: and for all the superstars on the Chief's roster. Think

750
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 1: about it. They have three rookie corners who started in

751
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: the championship game. They had a rookie safety who started

752
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 1: in that championship game. The punt returner who made the

753
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: key return on what ended up being the game winning

754
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: fuel goal in the AFC Championship rookie sky More RB one,

755
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,760
Speaker 1: seventh round rookie Isaiah Pacheco. When you're key pass rushers,

756
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 1: George karloftus rookie, I just rabbled it off. Seven rookies

757
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: from this last class that have been integral, have been

758
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: pivotal for the Chiefs and making a run to the

759
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: super Bowl. And I'd like to make a point too

760
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: on some of its timing. Like you mentioned sky Moore

761
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: and making that incredible punt return, and it was incredible.

762
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 1: Sky Moore was pulled off punt returns for a good

763
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 1: chunk of the season because he was bad at it.

764
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: You're right, and I'm I'm not trying to sit here

765
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: and say but but again, there's going to be growing

766
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: pains with some of these rookies. Some of them are

767
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,919
Speaker 1: going to be up and down. We don't know where

768
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: they're going. Like I'm I'm really curious to see what

769
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: kind of year my J Sanders has next year as

770
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: an edge rusher, depending on what kind of defense this

771
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: team is playing, or or Cameron Thomas, you know, those

772
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 1: those guys have a chance to be good. And again,

773
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: and I don't mean to pick a scab here, but

774
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: like Hassan Reddick, everybody wanted to trash the Cardinals for

775
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: making that pick for three years now they want to

776
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: trash the Cardinals for not realizing what they had. But

777
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: like I didn't, you know, I know there were some

778
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 1: fans saying, hey, try him outside, he's not working on inside.

779
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: I get all that, but like again, some of this

780
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: is this is all fluid in a lot of ways.

781
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: This is all you know, we will see what happens

782
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: with whoever the new coaches and what they want to

783
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: do with Isaiah Simmons and and that kind of stuffing. Well,

784
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: I think a good example that is Zaven Collins. Yeah,

785
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: look at the year he had the leap he had

786
00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: this year. I agree. I mean, ultimately, that's why I

787
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: think they needed a fresh start to see where some

788
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 1: of these guys could go. I mean, how many times

789
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: has it been brought up with Kyler Murray himself. I've heard,

790
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 1: I've heard the question or the speculation many times. Love

791
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: to see what Kyler Murray would do in a different

792
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: offense with a different coach, and now we're going to

793
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: find out. Well, look as far as his son, Reddick

794
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: goes as well, I mean we all love his son Reddick.

795
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 1: I mean, great guy, absolutely outstanding what he endured in everything, etc.

796
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 1: But you know what, when he went on the open market,

797
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: when the Cardinals didn't go forward with him, he got

798
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,919
Speaker 1: a one year deal for six million from Carolina. Yeah

799
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: it's not like he cashed in immediately, No, And then

800
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: he went to his hometown team. Well, obviously he's blowed up.

801
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: He played well in Carolina and they didn't resign him either.

802
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: But at the same time. And I asked this to

803
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: Kyle Vanibosch, how much of his production nineteen and a

804
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: half sacks in nineteen games. And I'm not minimizing his

805
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: season or his talent, but look at all the other

806
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 1: dudes you have to account for in that defensive front

807
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: seven for Philadelphia, I mean the Fletcher Coxes and Brandon Grahams.

808
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: They have defenders along that front who are legit, and

809
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 1: they're as deep as any team in the league. They

810
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: had seventy sacks as a team. They had four guys

811
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: with ten and a half or more sacks. It wasn't

812
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: just his son Reddick. So you know, there's it's amazing

813
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: how when you get a two or three different pass

814
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 1: rushers and you have a team that's explosive them on offense,

815
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 1: so you can pin your ears back and eat because

816
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 1: you're playing with a lead all the time. It is

817
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:27,959
Speaker 1: amazing how you can pile up some of those pass

818
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: RUSS statistics. So I just throw that out there, but

819
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 1: there's no doubt. Look, if Will Anderson is that guy,

820
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: you gotta take him. If Jalen Carter is the next

821
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: Chris Jones, who's this year's Aaron Donald you gotta take him.

822
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: Is that interior game wrecker, that guy along the defensive

823
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,720
Speaker 1: front you can put in multiple spots and is always

824
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: going to command the double team because look at how

825
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 1: valuable Chris Jones has been, which gets us dangerously close

826
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: to analyzing this Super Bowl. Does they gonna have a

827
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: gut feeling? Danny? Would you care to offer up an

828
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: opinion that I said, what do you think things go

829
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: out at State Farm Stadium? Going to go with what

830
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: I have already said to people at the office, And

831
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 1: so that's why I'm going to go Eagles. And I

832
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: know that anybody listening, who actually you're probably not listening

833
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 1: if you are from Dallas or that time when I

834
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: worked for the other team, probably say that. I don't

835
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna tell my dad which team I'm picking

836
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 1: for the Super Bowl, but I'm going to stick with

837
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: my gut from a week ago, and I'm going to

838
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: say Philly, Okay, all right, Darren, I think it's a

839
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 1: real toss. If it was funny, I saw a graphic

840
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: on ESPN this morning, actually, and not only do they

841
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: have the exact same record going into this game, but

842
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,439
Speaker 1: I think they have the same exact number of points scored. Yes,

843
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: I saw that, and there was some other there was

844
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: Neither team has been behind in the postseason. I mean,

845
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: it's it's pretty even. I mean I was actually Drew

846
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: Stan's prediction was that they're going to tie. If the

847
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 1: Eagles get behind, they're done. He really wants to see

848
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 1: the Eagles and if they have the ability to come back.

849
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 1: If Mahomes starts out hot in the game. I do

850
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: think that. I think Mahomes hurt experience wise. Mahomes has

851
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: a lot over Hurts and Reid has a lot over

852
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Speaker 1: Sirianni and I wonder how much that plays into it. Now,

853
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: how healthy or is this receiving core for the Chiefs?

854
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 1: How healthy is mahomes ankle? And is he going to

855
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 1: be able to move? I mean, I know it's going

856
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: to be better than it was, but is he gonna

857
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: be able to move at all against a pass rush?

858
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: That is scary good? You know, if he was a

859
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 1: one hundred percent healthy, I'm thinking, okay, that Eagles pass

860
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: rush could get in trouble because they haven't been around

861
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 1: a guy quite like that. But if he can't quite move,

862
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: that's a little bit tougher. I hope it's a good game.

863
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,479
Speaker 1: I remember thinking a couple of years ago Chiefs Bucks

864
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: was going to be a really good game, and then

865
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: the Bucks blew him out, and then I'm like, no,

866
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: that's kind of stinks. What about you, Paul, Well, the

867
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: experience thing gives me pause. There's there's no doubt about it,

868
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: and I think that's important. But if it's all about

869
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: neutralizing Patrick Mahomes, the Eagles are equipped and we've seen

870
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: him before when he struggled. True, it's when you get

871
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 1: guys in his face. We look, we've seen in that

872
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: building an unbeaten Patriots team and out of the Giants

873
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: beat him. They got to Tom Brady, they got in

874
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: his face, they hit him, they harassed him all game long.

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00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: I think the Eagles do a real good job of

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00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: that against Mahomes. And I just think Philly's the more

877
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: complete team. And then I'll throw this out there as well.

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Speaker 1: I think ultimately, by the end of the game, you're

879
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: going to realize, you know what, the Eagles offensive line

880
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: is better than the Chief's offensive line. And I just

881
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 1: think the way they ran the ball against the Niners,

882
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,280
Speaker 1: the way they protected and kept Jalen Hurts clean against

883
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: that number one ranked forty nine Ers defense. That's about

884
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: as impressive as I've seen against Fred Warner Nick Bosa company.

885
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: Even though the Niners, I get it, they were one

886
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: to you know, I mean that that defense I think

887
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: got demoralized a little bit because of the quarterback situation. Well,

888
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: speaking of sorry, speaking of the forty nine ers defense.

889
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: This showed up on Twitter, and if you guys something

890
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: before we got on air, but roughly an hour ago,

891
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: Tompass Tom Pellicero tweeted that the forty nine ers planned

892
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: to hire Steve Wilkes as their defensive coordinator. So I

893
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys had seen that or not.

894
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 1: Interesting I had seen that, and good for Steve, and

895
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,439
Speaker 1: I do think he's going to find his way back

896
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: into the potential hiring cycle for head coaches. And I mean,

897
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: if you can't get into a better situation as a

898
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator than going to to what the forty nine

899
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: ers haven't, and it'll it'll be interesting. They've got they've

900
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: got to get Nick Bosa a new contract, if if

901
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, um, so there's some there's some choices

902
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: to make there and deals to make. But I think

903
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: that's a great situation for him. Going back to your

904
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: point real quick, Paul, I do think we talk about

905
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: Mahomes's ankle, like how healthy is Jalen Hurts and that

906
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: shoulder at this point. I mean, he looked pretty good

907
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: against the forty nine ers, but he didn't have to

908
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: do a whole lot. There wasn't a whole lot of

909
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: urgency offensively because, like you said, there was no fear

910
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: that the forty nine ers were going to be able

911
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: to do much. So you know, that goes back to

912
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: what Vanderbarch Kyle Vanderbosh said about falling behind. It was

913
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: actually Drew Stanton on the I'm sorry, Drew stand sorry

914
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: one of those former Cardinal players that I sorry diame

915
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 1: a dozen. Of course, that's what Kyle gets for taking

916
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: a shot at me earlier. I said, you have extra

917
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: Super Bowl tickets, Kyle, what's the deal? And he, you know,

918
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: I looked at me and Greilo. He said, no, I'm

919
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,919
Speaker 1: only inviting my friends to the game. Wow, that hurts,

920
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 1: and you guys are my friends. One of you is

921
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: my friend. See I knew, I somehow I knew that

922
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: was going to happen. Now I've completely blocked Danny from myself.

923
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: Who all right, final question, who's got the best plan?

924
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: Certainly not me. I'm going to live vicariously through the

925
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: two of you. You're going to be out and about

926
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: super Bowl Week. What's what's the event you're most looking

927
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: forward to covering or attending. I actually have a chance

928
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,240
Speaker 1: to attend a couple there's a well, I think Danny

929
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: and I are both going to attend a Hall of

930
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: Fame lunch and at the end of the week with

931
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: a bunch of Hall of famers that are going to

932
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: be there, and there's going to be some conversation about

933
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: Violet Bidwell and her being the first female owner in

934
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: the nfl UM. So that's that's something to look forward to.

935
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 1: And I'm also getting a chance to see go to

936
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Speaker 1: the Fritz Pollard Luncheon, which is Fritz Pollard is now

937
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: the Alliance is now headed up by Rod Graves, former

938
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: general Manager's right, it's nice enough to invite me and

939
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: and that'll be interesting. I just think it's it's gonna

940
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: be It's going to be a very kind of exciting

941
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: week for the Valley. I know there's a lot of

942
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: stuff going on downtown to hopping. I'm sure, Scottsdale is

943
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: gonna be hopping for a number of days. There's the

944
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,280
Speaker 1: golf tournament and everything like that, but it is definitely

945
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: something when the super Bowl comes to town, and even

946
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: if you're not going to the game, just to to

947
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 1: be around the buzz, I think is kind of cool. Yeah.

948
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 1: I agree. I'm looking forward to being at the luncheon

949
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: with Darren and then hang out watching the Sunday. I

950
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: don't think that's why you're looking forward to the luncheon.

951
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think i' because you can't see

952
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: me over the monitors, so you can't really get a

953
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: feel for what I'm saying. That's true. I'm gonna miss,

954
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: you know, not being in the office this week because

955
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: I'm not going to overhear Danny game planning for the Open.

956
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: You know exactly how that I enjoyed that There was

957
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: like three or four people got together. They had a

958
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: really detailed game plan as to how they were going

959
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: to approach attending the Phoenix Old last year. Last year.

960
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 1: That was that was well done. At the amount of

961
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: I don't think you're ever listening because you've got your

962
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: headphones on. Are you listening to anything? Oh? You were

963
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: right here. I was getting up and you were right

964
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: behind us the whole thing and boom. Yeah. So I

965
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: was like, well, you know what, I might try and go.

966
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: I might try and go Sunday morning. Um. I do agree.

967
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 1: It's fun to like have the buzz, but the thought

968
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 1: of fighting through traffic or paying for rideshare to get

969
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: out to Waste Management is enough to make me not

970
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: want to go. But I might go out Sunday hoping

971
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Speaker 1: that people are going to be out at the stadium

972
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Speaker 1: or maybe you know, get to a spot and Scott's

973
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: still pretty early. So I might try and go to

974
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Speaker 1: Waste Management Sunday before the game and get I'm sure

975
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Speaker 1: nobody will be out there on Sunday. Sure. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: I thanks. Last Super Bowl, I had a buddy of mine.

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Speaker 1: He came into town because he had clients. He woke

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00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: up Saturday morning and said, Hey, can you run me

979
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: out to the Phoenix Open. I could drop off some

980
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: tickets for one of my clients. I said no, I

981
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Speaker 1: flat refused. I'm not getting anywhere near the Phoenix Open

982
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: on a Saturday of Super Bowl week. No chance this.

983
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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I'm dialing back to the number of private

984
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: planes in the area. But one thing super Bowl Week

985
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: does always remind me of is how much money I

986
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: do not have. That's right, and that's a great place

987
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