1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hell. 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: That for me. I'm a man, I'm for it. I've 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 2: heard so many players say, well, I want to be happy. 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: You want to be happy for a day? Edith Steak 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 2: is that whoo whoo? And them and tie Dan Rubinstein 6 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: Happy Monday? 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: How are you, sir? 8 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: Pretty good? Excited for this show. We've got a lot 9 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: to get to post week two pre Week three. This 10 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: is not our Week three preview, but of course there 11 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 2: are so many news stories and topics to get through. 12 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 2: This is what this Monday show is all about. And 13 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: I am here for it. Ty, how you doing. 14 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: I'm well, We've got my burning question, We've got your 15 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: burning question. We've obviously got the mil Tucker news that 16 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: we need to lead with and talk a little bit 17 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: more about. And then there is an extended version of 18 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: this episode that is available only to folks over at 19 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: verbalers dot com. That is our Patreon. That's where you 20 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: get the bonus perks like ad free at episodes every 21 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: episode add free. That's where you get bonus content like 22 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: the videos. Our friend Jeh Schwartz is putting out the 23 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: scheme videos to help break down what transpires in some 24 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: of the biggest games. 25 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 2: With all twenty two footage. Yeah, it's great. 26 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: The coaches angles, and of course you get access to 27 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: the Patreon community as well as the Verballer Top twelve poll. 28 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: You get a vote in that. We'll talk about that 29 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: a little bit later on as well. I think we 30 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: got to start at the top. Though we debated whether 31 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: or not we wanted to go live on YouTube and 32 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: talk about this on Sunday evening, we ultimately decided not to. 33 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: We wanted to give it more room to breathe and 34 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: honestly give ourselves a little bit more of a chance 35 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: to understand what was happening here. But Mel Tucker has 36 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: been suspended as head football coach at Michigan State pending 37 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: a hearing that is set to take place the first 38 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: week of October. That hearing is in response to an 39 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: investigation into allegations of sexual harassment filed by Brenda Tracy, 40 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: who is a name that many people know. She operates 41 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: a nonprofit that helps raise awareness about sexual misconduct, especially 42 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: among college athletes. The story here is that Tracy and 43 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: Tucker had worked together previously to help educate the Spartan 44 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: football team. She alleges that he sent her gifts that 45 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: he asked things like if she'd date him if he 46 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: weren't married, and also engaged in phone sex without her consent. Tucker, 47 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: for his part, has admitted to the behavior but said 48 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: it was consensual. So there's a lot to unpack there. 49 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: In the interim, Harlan Bennett is going to serve as 50 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: the interim football coach. They brought back Mark D'Antonio to 51 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: serve in an associate head coach capacity as well. Okay, yes, 52 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: we are obviously not in a position to get much 53 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: more into the details with respect to the investigation. We 54 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: know just as much as you do. These are allegations 55 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: that deserve a full investigation. I think you and I 56 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: both acknowledge as much. We will report those findings whenever 57 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: they are fully communicated and adjudicated and put out into 58 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: the public sphere. What we know from a football standpoint, 59 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: I think is the following Dan. First off, there is 60 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: a process that Michigan State needs to follow, and they 61 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: need to follow it, and I hate to go there 62 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: with it because there's a lot of money riding on this. 63 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: Mel Tucker is owed an excess of seventy seven million 64 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: dollars if they decide to go in a different direction 65 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: with the football team, which many of us are assuming 66 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: is where this eventually ends up. It is important that 67 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: they follow that process and then secondly, again not to 68 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: get too far out ahead of the story. It does 69 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: seem as if this could be one of the first 70 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: big openings going into the twenty twenty four college football season, 71 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: and where a college football show we can't help but 72 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: wonder at least a little bit about what that can 73 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: do it Slate might look like. 74 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 2: I agree. So to back things up just a little bit, 75 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: there are clauses in most, if not all college football 76 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: coaches contracts that say it's not just you know, if 77 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: you do something that breaks the rules, but also it's 78 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: sort of if you do anything that does not meet 79 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 2: the standard of a hugely public position at this university, 80 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: if you bring you know, embarrassment, shame, disrepute to the university. 81 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 2: That is sort of included in that clause, and that's 82 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: in mel Tucker's contract as well. And certainly with the 83 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 2: backdrop of everything beyond this specific situation that has happened 84 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 2: in this universe at Michigan State, the horrors of the 85 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 2: Larry Nassar situation, there is going to be added pressure 86 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: to act swiftly and appropriately as Michigan State finds out 87 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 2: what is in this full I think it's a Title 88 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 2: nine report, yes, which is why when the story broke, 89 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 2: I think there were a lot of questions like, but 90 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 2: why now, why is Michigan State suspending him? Now? If 91 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: knew that this has been you know, this investigation has 92 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 2: been going on for a long time, and the administrators 93 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 2: involved mentioned that the actual correct course of action when 94 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 2: you have this type of type of investigation is that 95 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 2: you don't know the details until the investigation is wrapped up, 96 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 2: and so they were just the administrators alleged that they 97 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: were just finding out the details as we were when 98 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: this USA Today story came out, and so it seems 99 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: like he's just done because best case situation, he acted 100 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 2: inappropriately with somebody connected to the program, and so that 101 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 2: sort of falls under that clause. But obviously, if you 102 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 2: read the USA Today's story, you can see that you know, 103 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: she provided to the investigation a number of details and 104 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 2: communications texts and emails, and there are notes from her 105 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 2: lawyer and her assistant from the time, and so it 106 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: seems like there is an overwhelming chance that Michigan State 107 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: will be looking for a new head coach sooner rather 108 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 2: than later. Given the circumstances of the investigation and the 109 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 2: circumstances of being suspended without pay. Not a lot of 110 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 2: guys come back from that. But obviously we along with 111 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 2: everybody else, are going to withhold full judgment until the 112 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: full investigation is completed. 113 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: If we act on the assumption here for the purposes 114 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: of this show that there will be an opening at 115 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: Michigan State in twenty twenty four, which I think is 116 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: all we really can do given our position. That's what 117 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: it's see, That's what it seems like this is going. 118 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: It seems like it is going there. You would be 119 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: a fool to think otherwise. The first name that comes 120 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: to mind is Patent or Juwzy, because Patner Dusy is 121 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: a very successful assistant at Michigan State for a long time. 122 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: He's been very successful at Pitt as well. The second name, 123 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 1: one that has sort of passed its way through the 124 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: college football was down the alley and ended up on 125 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: our lap, was Jim Leonard. Another one that I think 126 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: is obvious that people need to ask questions and at 127 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: least consider as Matt Campbell. Sure, I eagerly await the 128 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: articles from those in the know, those who have their 129 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: finger more on the pulse of the rumor mill. But 130 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: those are three names that came to mind first for me. 131 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: Are there any others that came about for you? 132 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: Not that I'm sourcing or anything like that, right, I 133 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: don't have any names. Like I've joked about Mike Elko 134 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: in a big Big Ten job, considering his time at 135 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: Notre Dame and considering what he's done so far with Duke, 136 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 2: that he's going to be a major name in the 137 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 2: year or years to come in the coaching carousel. But no, 138 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 2: I think those names sound appropriate in this moment. Obviously, 139 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: there are a number of assistants with ties to Michigan 140 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 2: State out throughout the college football universe and ties to 141 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 2: the Big Ten. We remember Luke Fickle turned down that 142 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 2: job or the opportunity to interview for that job just 143 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 2: didn't feel like a fit. When mel Tucker ended up 144 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 2: taking that job, when Mark Dantonio moved on, and everybody 145 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 2: decided it was time for Mark D'Antonio to move on. 146 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,679 Speaker 2: So no, it's the state of the Michigan State job 147 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 2: is interesting because certainly the Big Ten is one of 148 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 2: the two biggest conferences in the sport. Moving forward, it's 149 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 2: probably it's been a playoff program at its peak will 150 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 2: continue to be, you know, looked at as a program 151 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 2: with a ceiling of being top ten, fifteen, eighteen, whatever 152 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 2: that the best of Michigan State. What it has to 153 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: offer is super competitive. Even with a growing Big Ten, 154 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: I think it's going to be more difficult, but I 155 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: still think it should be looked at as a pretty 156 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 2: significant job. But yeah, it's it's now one that has 157 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 2: more baggage than ever and more of a spotlight than 158 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: ever given the status of the Big Ten. So no, 159 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: I think big names will come up for it, but 160 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: it's still a step below you know, USC, Ohio State, Michigan, 161 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: Penn State within that conference. I mean, it's a top 162 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: half of the conference job. Yeah, it's a good job, 163 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 2: and obviously they're willing to pay. 164 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: Look at the commitment they made initially to mil Tucker. 165 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: So I think that in and of itself, that money 166 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: will attract some bigger names, And it wouldn't surprise me 167 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: if you hear some really big names associated with this job. 168 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: But the nardoozy thing to me feels like it's almost 169 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:14,359 Speaker 1: a perfect fit given his track record at the program, 170 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 1: given the success he's had on his own as a 171 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: head coach. It seems to me like that would make 172 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 1: a lot of sense. With Michigan State, you always have 173 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: the recruiting thing that I think you need to try 174 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: and figure out and try and crack that code. I 175 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: know that a lot of guys have cracked that code, 176 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: and I don't know if Nardozi has cracked that code 177 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: at PITT. That's part of why he seems so disgruntled 178 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: at times. But sure, he's definitely a name that I 179 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: think if you're a Michigan State fan, you bring him back, 180 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 1: you'd feel good about that. So we'll see again. A 181 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: lot to unpack here as we move forward, but the 182 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: assumption is that at some point we're going to have 183 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: to have this conversation. 184 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how much those talks happened or 185 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 2: flirtations happened between Pat and Nardoozi and Michigan State the 186 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: last time it opened. Certainly he seems very happy at PITT. 187 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: But then there's the added element of the haves and 188 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 2: have nots of the sport at the moment where the 189 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 2: acc is locked into a pseudo have not deal with 190 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 2: a lot of its members unhappy, whereas Michigan State's future 191 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 2: seems pretty secure in the Big Ten financially, and so 192 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 2: that is going to be something that is going to 193 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: weigh heavily on a lot of coaches that are potentially 194 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: interested in this job. More to come on this front. Normally, 195 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 2: the Monday. 196 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: Episode is devoted to burning questions, My burning question, your 197 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: burning question, and then as we get to the extended 198 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: version of this episode, the Verballer Hood's Burning Questions, as 199 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: well as the verb Bowler Top twelve pole, which saw Georgia, 200 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: Florida State, Michigan, Texas, and USC one through five. What 201 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: is your biggest burning question after week two? 202 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: Okay, so my biggest burning question is maybe twofold and 203 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 2: they're sort of related to each other. But do we 204 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 2: know definitively. 205 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: Not definitively obviously because we're. 206 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 2: Two weeks in. Do we know based solely on two 207 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 2: weeks of play, not so not previous years and the 208 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: evidence that we have or the reputations that we have, 209 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: how many teams actually have the combination of quality quarterback 210 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 2: and quality. 211 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: Defense in this moment. 212 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 2: That have shown that to be the case in these 213 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 2: opening two weeks with basically everyone having played at least 214 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 2: one for lack of a better term, guppy on their schedule. Right, 215 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 2: how many teams as you look across the landscape, like 216 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 2: I can say, you know, Oregon looks like, oh man, 217 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: they're coming along, Like, I don't know. Defense didn't look 218 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 2: great early, and if I'm not counting bo Nicks in 219 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 2: previous seasons or last year with Oregon, like he left 220 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 2: a lot on the table for Oregon against Texas Tech. 221 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 2: So right now, where are the two or not two? 222 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 2: But what are the teams in front of you in 223 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 2: the sport that you're like, I think they have a 224 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 2: defense based on what I've seen early, Like, is it 225 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 2: only Florida State? Georgia hasn't played anybody, so we don't 226 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 2: know what Carson beck is going to look like with 227 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 2: like live defenses. Yeah, so is it only Florida State? 228 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: Again? Well, it gets back to the question that we 229 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: had preseason when we were doing our previews and part 230 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: of why I think we thought this season is gonna 231 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: be really interesting, and that's because of the coaching or 232 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: the quarterback turnover. Excuse me, there's a lot of quarterback 233 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: turnover and guys that we assume will be good, but 234 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 1: all too often we've assumed that quarterbacks will be good 235 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: and they're not. I think Carson Beck will be really good. 236 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: I do. I don't think he has much choice in 237 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: that Georgia system. But I get where you're coming from, 238 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 1: and I don't think we can assume as much through 239 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: two weeks of the season. We know their defense will 240 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 1: be stellar, but what's he going to look like against 241 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: better competition? So we'll we'll wait to reserve judgment on Georgia. 242 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: Florida State for sure. I think Michigan for sure. Wait wait, wait, 243 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: how do you know Michigan for sure? They've played nobody. 244 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: We've seen enough of a body of work with JJ McCarthy. 245 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 2: I'm saying nobody of work. I'm saying this season only 246 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 2: results this season only, So I'd say Notre Dame. Yes, 247 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 2: Notre Dame, because because they played MC State. 248 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy went something like thirteen straight passes last game 249 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: before he threw an incompletion. I'm confidence saying JJ McCarthy's quarterback, 250 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: come on, but but. 251 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 2: He hasn't proven anything this year. They can win the 252 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 2: Mountain West with their win over you and Elvate. Yeah, 253 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 2: Quinn viewers in Texas, good answer. I think that's right. 254 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: I think so USC definitely has a quarterback, very much 255 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: an incomplete on the defensive side of that conversation. Yeah, 256 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: Kyle McCord, Yeah, not going there quite yet. 257 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 2: Penn State, Dan, I think that's right. They played West Virginia. 258 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: Has Penn State and Drew Aller and their defense proven 259 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: enough to you they've qualified. 260 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, because they've played West Virginia. Washington has the offense. 261 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: I don't know about the defense. 262 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 2: Uh. They they they looked like what they should look 263 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: like as a more complete team against Boise State, who 264 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 2: I will count as a real team in real program, 265 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 2: So I will include Washington. Yep. 266 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: I would agree with Notre Dame. I think Notre Dame's 267 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 1: got Sam Hartman. Notre Dame's got the defense. The question, though, 268 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: is if you're going strictly on this year. 269 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 2: Is strictly on first two weeks are two and a 270 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 2: half weeks results? 271 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: Is what Sam Hartman's done so far enough to give 272 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: you a definite? Yes, he's good. 273 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, because of NC State. 274 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: Okay, Oregon, I think in complete. 275 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 2: Yes, the defense looks better, but I don't think bow 276 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 2: Nicks and the defense both are of that high high 277 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 2: quality based solely on the first two weeks Alabama, Now, 278 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 2: Jalen Milroe does not look like a playoff quarterback in 279 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 2: this moment when the defense gave up a lot to Texas, 280 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 2: you have a lot of yards. And this is within 281 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 2: the context of what that roster is built, how that 282 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: roster is built, and what we've come to expect from 283 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 2: talent level there, even though we're not talking about previous 284 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 2: year's evidence. 285 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: When we did the Bama preview, I just have to 286 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: say this. He had so many people comment on our 287 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: skepticism around Jalen Milroe, Well, you don't understand he's got 288 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: elite speed. Yeah, and he cut up Texas A and 289 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: M in limited action. He could still be very good. 290 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: He probably will be, but left a lot to be 291 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: desired in that Texas game through two picks directly to 292 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: Texas defenders. Gotta be better than that. 293 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 2: Can I give you a team to overreact to that's 294 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 2: shown very strong quarterback play and I'd say pretty good 295 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 2: to good defense. Kansas Jayhawks defense was improved if you're 296 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 2: only looking at this year, how they came out defensively 297 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 2: against Illinois in that first half, real team, two different quarterbacks, obviously, 298 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 2: Jason being week one, Jalen Daniel's week two. I think 299 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 2: you have to include Kansas in that conversation. I'm not 300 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 2: willing to be swayed by previous years in this moment. 301 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 2: I'm living in this moment, Ty, can I give you 302 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 2: another team please? That showed a little bit of flashes 303 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 2: on defense and maybe the defense is behind I'm not there. 304 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 2: I think this is an express version of that in 305 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 2: North Carolina. 306 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: I don't know about that. 307 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 2: They've played two real teams. They go to overtime against 308 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 2: app State? Who else? Ty, anybody else come to mind? 309 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 2: Given opponents given the first two weeks of the season. 310 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 2: You're like, I think they got a quarterback in the defense. Well, 311 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 2: I kind of know. 312 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: I think Utah has got a defense, but TBD on 313 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: the quarterback for totally. Miami's interesting to me. 314 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 2: Now, Miami's interesting. They gave up some points. 315 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: Miami gave a thirty three points text saytem at home. However, 316 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: I think the A and M offense is gonna be 317 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: pretty good. They're gonna put U points in everybody this year. 318 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 2: They should. 319 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: They should, provided Bobby Petrino gets more say in the offense, 320 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: but it's not going to be I think a one 321 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: time thing that A and M scores thirty plus points, 322 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: the combo of a healthy TVD behind a good line 323 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: with the defense that should be improved over last year. 324 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: I think I think Miami's a strong answer. One that's 325 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: really interesting to me is Oklahoma okay, and it I 326 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,719 Speaker 1: think falls a little bit into the Kansas conversation that 327 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: you just had, Like, we know that Dylan Gabriel's pretty good. 328 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: I think we've got enough of body work there to 329 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: prove it. And I know that not overwhelming against SMU 330 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: wasn't overwhelming but still good. And the defense only allowing 331 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: eleven points against SMU, I thought was a positive step forward, 332 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: and I'm interested in seeing if that trend continues. 333 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 2: I don't have the defense of Colorado, but certainly the 334 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 2: quarterback situation absolutely there. Oregon State hasn't played an opponent 335 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 2: that makes me confident in either of those things in 336 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 2: this moment. But they've shown what they've they should have 337 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 2: shown against who they've played. What San Jose State and 338 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 2: U See Davis is who they played? 339 00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, what about Tennessee? 340 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 2: I'm not there with Joe Milton quite yet against Look, 341 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 2: they played against Virginia and it was Austin p with 342 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 2: a slow start. I'm not there with Tennessee quite yet. No, 343 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 2: they got. 344 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: Florida this week. It's sort of the game of the day, 345 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,959 Speaker 1: right and on the road, no less, So we'll we'll 346 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: see what Joe Milton can do Tennessee. On the defensive side, 347 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: I'd like to see them against passing offense. They were 348 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: really good against a run a year ago. But before 349 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 1: we kind of, I think, proclaim that the defense is 350 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: a solid top to bottom entity, I need to see 351 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: them against team that can throw better. 352 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 2: I kind of feel like all miss is an answer here. 353 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 2: I've been impressed with Jackson Dart by and large and 354 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 2: the defense, the getting the stops that they did. It's 355 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 2: incomplete in that they didn't get Michael Pratt Tulane, and 356 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 2: so that's why I'm not fully convinced, because they did 357 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 2: lose so much on defense. There is so much turnover there. 358 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 2: But from a standpoint of showing what they've shown against 359 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 2: who they've played, and what quarterback has looked like, I 360 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 2: think well misses in that conversation. 361 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: Right in salverba at gmail dot com, let us know 362 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: and quarterback defense. Of course, hit us up on social media, 363 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: follow the podcast, leave us a rating, or review my 364 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: burning question very quickly. Yours is more thoughtful, but mine 365 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: is more specific. We've spent so much time I think 366 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: ruminating over the Texas win that I'm actually going to 367 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: co opt one of the verbaler questions that got sent in. 368 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 1: I think it's something that people are asking, People are 369 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: wondering the Texas is back thing. It has been a punchline, 370 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: as they posted out in our social media accounts for 371 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: years now. But by virtue of this win over Alabama 372 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: thirty four to twenty four on the road, no less, 373 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: you have to start wondering what does the rest of 374 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 1: the way look like for Texas, especially since we've seen 375 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:53,479 Speaker 1: vulnerability elsewhere around the Big twelve. And the question from 376 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 1: Tristan and I know the question that we've gotten from 377 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: other folks as well, is looking at the schedule and 378 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: knowing now that Texas has the ceiling at a minimum 379 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: of beating Alabama, which is pretty good. It's hard to 380 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: picture the two losses on the schedule. It would take 381 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: two losses, I think, to keep Texas out of the playoff. 382 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: Tristan wants to know where do those two losses come from? 383 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: Is it the Big Twelve title game? And one more, 384 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: here's what Texas has the rest of the way Dan 385 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: this week, Wyoming, they go to Baylor, home against Kansas 386 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: and then the neutral cider against Oklahoma in the Red 387 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: River Game. Back to back weeks. That will be a 388 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: tough stretch. They're also on the road Houston, They've got BYU, 389 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: They're home against k State, They're on the road at TCU, 390 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: on the road at Iowa State, and they close out 391 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: at home against Texas Tech team. You know a little 392 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: something about if you're picking two losses and you can 393 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: include the Big Twelve game, if you want to where 394 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: else are those two losses coming from? And how confident 395 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: are you that they'll get to? 396 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 2: Kansas State and Oklahoma are the ones that shine the 397 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 2: brightest to me right now. Oklahoma obviously in Dallas, Kansas State, 398 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 2: the reigning Big Twelve champions. I'm trying to look at 399 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 2: situationally though, Wyoming undefeated against the Big Twelve in this moment. 400 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 2: That game is on the Longborn Network. I think so 401 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 2: I won't watch it, but continue Kansas is a sandwich 402 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 2: game between Kansas is a bit of a sandwich. A 403 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 2: road trip to Baylor and. 404 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: The Big Red River game against Oklahoma, that's a dangerous 405 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: spot for Texas. 406 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 2: I'm not terribly scared of whatever the Baylor implications are 407 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 2: in this moment after what we saw from them on 408 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 2: offense last week. So I think that's open face, like 409 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 2: a look ahead situation for Kansas, maybe ahead of Oklahoma. 410 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 1: If I'm picking two losses, my two losses are probably Oklahoma, 411 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: probably Texas Tech to close out the year, because I 412 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: think Texas Tech' is gonna have a lot to play 413 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: for in that game. And if I am picking a 414 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: wild card for me, and this is outside the Big 415 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: Twelve championship game because we don't even know who they 416 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 1: would play presumable, I would probably go Kansas because to 417 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: your point from earlier, Kansas maybe playing a little bit 418 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: better defense, the offense is still intact. They still have 419 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: really good quarterback play, whether it's Jason Bean or Jalen Daniels. 420 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 1: By the way, yeah, Kansas is very interesting to me 421 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: in that spot. 422 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 2: If the Kansas game, especially because of recent history, if 423 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 2: the Kansas game were in Lawrence this week in a 424 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 2: letdown spot after the Alabama gonna be like, ooh no, 425 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 2: that's spicy, sweet and spicy. But now it's timing doesn't 426 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 2: work out for me. There I still have the scar 427 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 2: tissue of Kansas's defense. And if Texas has fully turned 428 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 2: the page and quinn Ewers is going to be hitting 429 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 2: a lot more shots deep, there's not many teams, if any, 430 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 2: in the Big twelve that I see having a true chance, 431 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 2: maybe outside of Oklahoma or Kansas State. And that's a chance, 432 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 2: that's that's not really a certainty. So no, I'm downgrading TCU, 433 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 2: though I'm willing to believe in TCU as an improving 434 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 2: grower team by the time they play, and that's a 435 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 2: week after Kansas State and it's in Fort Worth. So 436 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 2: that's an ideal scenario for TCU, who does nothing but 437 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 2: beat Texas, it seems. But no, if we're to believe 438 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 2: that Alabama is still very good, albeit different, and if 439 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 2: we're to believe that this is a replicable path for 440 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 2: Texas what they did against Bama, then nobody on this 441 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 2: schedule can beat them. Right, If Alabama is in fact 442 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 2: very good and Texas is in fact even better than 443 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 2: very good, and Queen Yours is Queen Yours against Alabama. 444 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 2: There's not a team on this schedule that I see 445 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 2: beating them, right, Is that a crazy thing to say? 446 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: No? 447 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 2: But that's that Also, that statement also doesn't exist in reality, 448 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 2: because the reality of college football is nobody is at 449 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 2: their best or is at what we perceive to be 450 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 2: their best, at all moments of all games, and so 451 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 2: everybody has down weeks. Quarterbacks get dumped the night before 452 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 2: a game by their girlfriends and you're like, oh, oh, 453 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 2: woe is me? Why did he play? 454 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: So? 455 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 2: Oh? That's why. That's just the reality. And so yes, 456 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 2: they can absolutely lose to Kansas State or Oklahoma, even 457 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 2: if they're a great team, and still win the Big 458 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 2: Twelve and still go to the playoff. But right now 459 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 2: it seems that they're playing at the highest level, the 460 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 2: clear highest level, without everyone having played a decent team 461 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 2: to prove it. 462 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: If you had a million dollars that was given you 463 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: right now and you could bet on Texas finishing with zero, 464 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: one or two losses, can only put that million on 465 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: one of those answers, One loss. I think one loss 466 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: is the answer. 467 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd probably have one loss against Kansas State because honestly, 468 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, shout out Adham Sigliano. 469 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 2: At the end of the day, nobody understands that reference. 470 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 2: At the end of the day, I think Will Howard's 471 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 2: the best quarterback on this schedule, and so that's where 472 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: I would wager my money. 473 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: All right, So, look, we still have to talk about 474 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: the Overballer Top twelve poll, which we just released. It's 475 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: ount on social media. I want to break down the 476 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: points in the voting in that we also got some 477 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: burning questions from the Verballer hood, i e. Why can't 478 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: the SEC run the ball through the first two weeks? 479 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: And also how likely is it that the Pac twelve 480 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 1: is going to get two teams in the college football 481 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: playoff just given the way that conferences have shaken out 482 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: here in the early part of the season. It's a 483 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: provocative and interesting question. We'll get into that and much 484 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: much more on the Patreon extended version of this episode. 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