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Speaker 1: Welcome to tex Stuff, a production from my Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: Are there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Strictland. I'm an executive producer without Heart Radio. And

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Speaker 1: how the tech are yet? Well, I'm wrapping up my

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Speaker 1: vacation by the time you listen to this, which means

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Speaker 1: that it is time for a rerun. This episode originally

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Speaker 1: published on December twenty one. It is called Getting Around

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Speaker 1: in Science Fiction. Hope you enjoy now. In the last episode,

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Speaker 1: we started off talking about some various sci fi gadgets.

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Speaker 1: You were telling us about their role within different science

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Speaker 1: fiction or speculative fiction. I should say, because some of

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Speaker 1: this stuff really falls into fantasy more than sci fi.

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Speaker 1: But their role within speculative fiction, what purpose do they serve?

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Speaker 1: And then I was the the bad guy with the

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Speaker 1: pen popping all the balloons of possibility, saying how how

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Speaker 1: this was truly fiction as opposed to reality. You crushed

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Speaker 1: my spirit shot, as is my one Ariel. You've known

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Speaker 1: me for for like I think about twenty years now,

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Speaker 1: and so we're coming up on twenty years. I think

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Speaker 1: will be twenty years since we first met, and so

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Speaker 1: I think I first met and I knew each other's names.

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Speaker 1: I think you might have seen me at the Renaissance

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Speaker 1: Festival before you work there. Uh. But yeah, I have

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Speaker 1: been crushing your dreams for twenty years, so I guess

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Speaker 1: there should be no surprise at this point. Well, I

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Speaker 1: want to I just want to stay as it's important

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Speaker 1: for for people to remember that. At the end of

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Speaker 1: the last episode, we had decided that Doctor Who has

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Speaker 1: so far been the most accurate science fiction show, yes

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Speaker 1: in their technology being all timey wymy whibbly wobbly, which

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Speaker 1: I know I reverse that, but hey, I've watched like

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Speaker 1: maybe three full seasons of Doctor Who. Total. Um, I

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Speaker 1: am no expert on it. That's why I brought you on.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna pick up from where we left off,

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Speaker 1: and we're going to talk about some more science fiction

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Speaker 1: technologies and what if any corollary there are in the

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Speaker 1: real world. And we're gonna go back to the Star

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Speaker 1: Treks I think for our first one. Yes, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get back to Star Treks, specifically with tricorders. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: this excites me because I know that a lot of

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Speaker 1: talked about in the previous episodes. So tricorders are kind

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Speaker 1: of this specialist. I find multi tool that do scanning, analysis,

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Speaker 1: data recording, all of that. It can tell you the

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Speaker 1: component makeup of being or an item. It can search

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Speaker 1: for life, so on and so forth. This is something

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Speaker 1: that people have been working on for a long time

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Speaker 1: in real life, right, Jonathan, Well, they're definitely lots of

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Speaker 1: components that have their real world counterparts, right. So, like

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Speaker 1: the exploration of an alien planet and determining whether or not,

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Speaker 1: we do that through something called spectral analysis, which I

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Speaker 1: it's not that kind of specter. Now we're talking about

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Speaker 1: spectral as in a spectrum, and you know, you might

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Speaker 1: Those were very specific trickers. They were specifically medical, right

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Speaker 1: and I suppose by relation the d neuralizer from Men

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Well, tell everybody what these things do within men

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Speaker 1: sci fi, and and comic books we have that many

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Speaker 1: times it comes in the form of the tools, or

433
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 1: rather the materials they use to build the science fiction tools.

434
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: So let's do a little quick fire of some minerals

435
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: and and items such as that that exist in the

436
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Speaker 1: sci fi fantasy world and whether we actually have real

437
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Speaker 1: life counterparts. So let's start with adamantium, which is a

438
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Speaker 1: Marvel thing. It's virtually indestructible bowl. It's a man made

439
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: it's a steel alloy. It's what Captain America's shield is

440
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: made out of. So it's just like extra super super

441
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 1: super super strong steel. It's also the stuff that Wolverine's

442
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: skeleton is made out of, yes, or coded in. Yeah, yeah,

443
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 1: that's true. Coded in. His skeleton is still made out

444
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: of bone. It was it was coated in adamantium um.

445
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: And also, uh well, at least I think in the

446
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: Marvel Cinematic universe, I think Captain America's shield might be

447
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: made out of vibranium um, not adamantium, because because it

448
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: disperses sound. But we'll talk about vibranium in a second.

449
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: Yeah I can't. But I can't tell you how they

450
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: made adamantium because it's a government secret. Yeah yeah, well

451
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: this kind of so you Aerial also are a fan

452
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: of HP Lovecraft horror type stuff, right, um, and Lovecraft

453
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: Lovecraft put a lot of the onus of his work

454
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: on the Reader because he would say that a monster

455
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: was so reprehensibly horrible and awful that you the human

456
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: brain can't can't process it and you go crazy looking

457
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: at it, which is a great way to get around

458
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: the problem of having to describe what your monster looks like. Well,

459
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: in the same sort of way, saying that the process

460
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: of making this is so top secret that it's never

461
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: been shared is a great way to get around the

462
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: fact that you can't do this. Um. Yeah, So adamantium

463
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: is being a steel alloy. That's totally realistic. We have alloys.

464
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: I mean, steel itself is an alloy, and an alloy

465
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: is a metal and either another metal or sometimes a mineral,

466
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: that are mixed together in order to create a a

467
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: different version of what you were working with. So steel

468
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: is an alloy of iron and carbon, primarily iron by itself,

469
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: very useful stuff, but it has limitations. Uh, it gets

470
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: a little bindy, windy, and it can be a little

471
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: brittle whittle as well. And by putting a little carbon

472
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: into a little iron and doing a very very involved

473
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Speaker 1: process of smelting, you can create a steel and that

474
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: ends up being harder, being able to hold an edge better, um,

475
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: being less brittle, at least in certain circumstances. Depending on

476
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: how much carbon is in the iron, and it means

477
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: that you can do other stuff with it. So adamantium

478
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: not realistic alloys totally a thing, all right? Well, and

479
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna switch up the order we have these

480
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: in a little bit. Mithral then, which is silver that

481
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: has tripled the strength of steel, seems to me be

482
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Speaker 1: another alloy. Is possible to make silver that strong? No? Um,

483
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: So myth roll comes from the Token universe, although it's

484
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: been used in fantasy ever since. Like, there's so many

485
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: different fantasies stories that if they don't call it myth role,

486
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: it's essentially myth role. I think Dudgeons and Dragons just

487
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: lifted it. But I kind of like that because it

488
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: makes it feel like all these science fiction and fantasy

489
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: universes all come from some sort of truth. I know

490
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: they don't, but the fact that they all vaguely connect

491
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: and intertwined is interesting to me. Anyhow, go on, Well,

492
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: myth role being made of silver, So there are a

493
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: couple of interesting things about silver that they don't relate

494
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: back to myth roll, but they do make silver very special.

495
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Speaker 1: One of those things is that silver has antimicrobial properties,

496
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: like silver kills microbes, so for that purpose. You will

497
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:55,239
Speaker 1: often find things like wound dressings that have nanoparticles of

498
00:31:55,320 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: silver worked into the dressing because it it fights off infection,

499
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: It fights off the possibility of getting an infected wound.

500
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: It's not a guarantee, but it definitely helps. So we

501
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: actually do see that silver has these kind of almost

502
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: magical properties because you know, it's it's hard for us

503
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: to imagine how on a macro scale this works. But

504
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: when you start looking at a nano scale, and a

505
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: nanometer is one billionth of a meter. When you're looking

506
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: at that tiny of a scale, physics operate very differently

507
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: than they do on our level. And so there are

508
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: certain things about silver that do make it special uh

509
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: And and there are alloys of steel, and there are

510
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: other um uh materials that we make that are lighter

511
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: and stronger than steel. Stronger, depending upon your definition, is

512
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: strong like carbon fiber. So I would argue that carbon fiber,

513
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: which is an artificial thing that we work with, is

514
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: kind of similar to myth. Although myth role was was

515
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: naturally occurring. It was something that the dwarves would mine

516
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: in in the Tolkien universe. And uh uh. With carbon fiber,

517
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: you can get something that has that's lighter than steal,

518
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: but much stronger. But as I said, strong depends on

519
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: your definition because there are different types of material strength.

520
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: There's tent sile strength, which is the resistance to being

521
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: pulled apart from deforming and breaking from a pulling uh

522
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: kind of stress. Then there's a hardness, which is more

523
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: like if you impact it, how does it hold up

524
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: against that? Does it hold its shape or does it

525
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: deform or dent. So there are different ways to think

526
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Speaker 1: about how strong is something or is it brittle? This

527
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: is something that it's hard, but if you strike it,

528
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: it breaks apart. So when we say that something is stronger,

529
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: we have to define that further. We can't just say

530
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: yes or no it maybe oh, this thing has got

531
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: amazing tent stile strength, like like there could be some

532
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: some carbon uh uh fiber stuff or some approach of

533
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,439
Speaker 1: of carbon nanotube type stuff that you could say, oh,

534
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: this has got such tin style strength. We could use

535
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: it to build a space elevator. But then if you said, yeah,

536
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: but if anything hits it, it'll break right apart because

537
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: it has terrible strength on that On that side, like

538
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: it's great tin sill strength, but an impact is terrible,

539
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: then you are back to the drawing board. So long

540
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 1: story short, mythral not real, but there are some real

541
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: world uh materials that we have that that do fall

542
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: into that lighter than steel but stronger than steel category.

543
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: That makes me feel like Uru metal is not so

544
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: much of a far fetch either then, because uru metal

545
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: is what Doris hammer Milner was made out of, which

546
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: is uh the first moon stone from the first moon

547
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: with metallic properties that can store magic and and energy,

548
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: and its resistant to damage and super durable. It feels

549
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 1: like everything you just talked about. But if you didn't

550
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: have to have one or together. Well. Also, I didn't

551
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 1: mention that we don't have materials that can store electricity

552
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: or like energy and magic. Um, but you did say

553
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 1: silver was kind of magical and it's micropial. You're turning

554
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: my own words against me. Oh meumu oh meumw came

555
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: back to haunt me, just like when thora throws it. Okay,

556
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: So um yeah. When I used the word kind of magical,

557
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: I mean in the sense that we is difficult for

558
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: us to understand on a on a on a common

559
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: sense level. Um. So, all the all the ideas of

560
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: being able to store energy. There's there's at least some

561
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: it's not storing, but there is some component to that

562
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: that we can look at in real world effects. So, Ariel,

563
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: have you ever heard of something called it the piezo

564
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: electric or sometimes people say piezo electric effect. I have,

565
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: but explained it for everybody who has not. That's fair

566
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: areal So, so piezo electric is the way I say it,

567
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: But I have heard p a zo electric as well.

568
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,919
Speaker 1: It's p i e z o. Uh. This is an

569
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: interesting um feature that some materials have. Quartz as an example,

570
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 1: and it's a material that if you were to apply

571
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: a mechanical stress to the material, in other words, if

572
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: you were to squeeze it or or hit it or whatever,

573
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: it would cause a voltage difference to occur within the

574
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: material itself, so it could actually emit an electric charge. Likewise,

575
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: if you subject one of these materials to an electric charge,

576
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: it will experience a mechanical internal stress, so in other words,

577
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 1: it will vibrate. So if you zap a piece of quartz,

578
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: it will vibrate. As a result, if you strike a

579
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: piece of quartz, it will generate an electric charge. And

580
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: this is why watches use use tiny quartz crystals to

581
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: keep time. Because it's a very specific reaction, it's always

582
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 1: going to be the same. If you apply the exact

583
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: same electric charge, you're gonna get the exact same amount

584
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: of vibration every single time, and vice versa. So it's

585
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: because it's so repeatable and so dependable that ends up

586
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: being an important element in timekeeping. So at least there

587
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 1: are materials that can convert one form of energy into another.

588
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: It's not the same as storing it. That's that's a

589
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: different thing. But there's at least some component to that.

590
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: Other than that, I can't think of any way to

591
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: make uru realistic. I mean, there are some materials that

592
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: are harder than others or else. We everything we might

593
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: as well be made all the same stuff or or anything.

594
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: But that's just not the case. So there is that.

595
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: But uh, the other thing we have to remember is

596
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: that at least for no true occurring stuff, the odds

597
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: of us encountering something that is completely unheard of in

598
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: science are are low. Um in that the universe is

599
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: pretty much all made out of the same sort of stuff.

600
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: We might find different concentrations of it depending on the

601
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: specific uh, you know, systems we're looking at, but we're

602
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: not likely to encounter. Oh, here's this new metal that

603
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: it's it's a naturally forming metal. It's not like it's

604
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: an alloy that has all these amazing properties. Were not

605
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 1: likely to encounter that. You mentioned that Courts will vibrate

606
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 1: or omit energy, which sounds like vibranium. All the vibranium

607
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: is a metal in Courts is a mineral. Uh I

608
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 1: guess are those the same thing? No, they are not, okay,

609
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,720
Speaker 1: so I'm not okay. So, of course is a mineral.

610
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: Vibranium is a metal. Vibranium is the most versatile metal

611
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: in the Marvel world. I was about to say the world.

612
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: It manipulates energy and vibrations. It can as there are

613
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: actually multiple kinds of vibratium, So some does absorb sound,

614
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 1: some kind of shoots it out like a kinetic energy.

615
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: There's even some is toxic and radioactive and and can

616
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 1: liquefy nearby metals because of the way it affects vibration.

617
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 1: It manipulates vibrations. And then there's one sentient one that

618
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not going to touch. But so it

619
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: sounds like Courts is pretty close to fibratium. I wouldn't

620
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 1: go that far, but but I mean, like, obviously there

621
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: are different materials that are uh that are better at

622
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: transmitting vibrations than others. So vibration, when you think about it,

623
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: I like to think of it as think of that.

624
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: Think of it that you're in a room with it's

625
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 1: a big room. Let's say that you're in a giant

626
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: conference room at Dragon con Aerial. Let's say that there

627
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: are only two other people in that room with you,

628
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: and they're on opposite corners of the room from where

629
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 1: you're at. You're not really able to interact with them

630
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: in a physical sense, like you can't push them or

631
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: anything because they're too far away. Right. Well, if you

632
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: are a material that has uh it's molecular structure in

633
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: such a way that the molecules can't interact with each

634
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: other easily, then it's very hard for vibration to pass

635
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: through it. But let's say that you're in that same

636
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: conference room and there's about to be about Star Galactica panel,

637
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: so there's like a billion people in there. Well, now,

638
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: because there's so many people in there, you can't even

639
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 1: you can't even move to the left or right without

640
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: bumping into somebody, which means that if you aerial for

641
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: some reason, decided to bring the wrath of security down

642
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: upon you, and you pushed someone next to you as

643
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: hard as you could, that would spread out through the

644
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: rest of the room as that person would collect with

645
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,240
Speaker 1: other people, and you know it would dissiplate over distance,

646
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 1: but it would spread the same thing with vibrations, right,

647
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: So if your molecular structure is packed tightly, then vibrations

648
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: can pass more easily through the material. And this explains

649
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 1: why the speed of sound is dependent upon whatever it's

650
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: traveling through. We usually think of the speed of sound

651
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: is traveling just through the air, but sound will travel

652
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: through other stuff as well, and depending on how tightly

653
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: packed those molecules are and how well they can move

654
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 1: against each other, that will determine how far the sound

655
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: can travel and uh and how how well how cohesive

656
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 1: it will remain. So there are those elements, but there's

657
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: nothing that I know of that is so effective at

658
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: absorbing vibration and then furthermore releasing it in some controlled

659
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: way that it would work the way vibranium does. In

660
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: the Marvel comics. We should also mentioned that at least

661
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 1: in most versions of the Marvel Universe. The largest concentration

662
00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: of vibranium is found, of course in Wakonda, Wakonda Forever,

663
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: Wakonda forever. All Right, So I can't find any way

664
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: to make a good segree to this next one. What

665
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: about autumtanum in the Avatar world, which is a room

666
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 1: temperature superconductor for energy. It's toxic and it has a

667
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: magnetic field, So there are there are things that have

668
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: magnetic fields we call the magnets um, so that's that's realistic.

669
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: There's stuff that's toxic, so that's realistic. Super Conducting at

670
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: room temperature is where we have the big issue because

671
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: on Earth, if we want to make something a superconductor,

672
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: we have to cool it way way way down, and

673
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 1: we're talking about using liquid nitrogen and sometimes liquid helium

674
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 1: to get a substance cold enough so it can become

675
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: a super conductor. And a superconductor is really interesting. I

676
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,919
Speaker 1: was gonna say really cool, but it has to be um.

677
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 1: It's really interesting because, as the name suggests, it conducts electricity.

678
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: But the super part is that there's no electrical resistance.

679
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,720
Speaker 1: With most conductors, there is an element of resistance, meaning

680
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 1: that the amount of electricity you're putting in at point

681
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: A is not going to be the same as what

682
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: you get out at point B because some of the

683
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: energy is going to be lost along the way as heat.

684
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: It will convert into heat, and the wire connecting point

685
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: A to point B will heat up over time and um.

686
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: And so you you have some efficiency issues, right, and

687
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: you work with that doing different things like if you

688
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 1: have a bigger uh cable as opposed to a narrow one,

689
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: then you reduce the amount of electrical resistance. Um. If

690
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 1: you have a shorter one, you reduce the amount of

691
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: electrical resistance. But with superconductors, you have no electrical resistance

692
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: once you get out at point B is what you

693
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: put in at point A, and you don't lose anything

694
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 1: in heat, which is super interesting and it has incredible

695
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: uses in technology. The large hadron collider, which I like

696
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: to think of as having stolen the name from us

697
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: with a large ner drown collider. Yeah, not the case. No,

698
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: there's totally the other way around. The large hadron collider

699
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: uses superconductors to create these these very powerful magnetic fields

700
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: that propel the particle beams that are used in their experiments.

701
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: So superconductors are a real thing, but room temperature ones

702
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: are not. You can almost think of this as the

703
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: flip of fusion. You know, in our last episode we

704
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: talked about fusion a little bit. Now, fusion is a

705
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: very very hot process. There have been claims about cold fusion,

706
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: but they haven't really withstood scientific scrutiny over time. The

707
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: idea of cold fusion being that you're able to create

708
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: a fusion reaction at essentially room temperature. So this is

709
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: kind of the flip side of that, the superconductor at

710
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: room temperature. Nothing that we have encountered or created so

711
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: far has really held up to either of those applications. Uh,

712
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: if we were able to do one or both of

713
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: those things, we could have incredible, incredible advancements in technology.

714
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that it's impossible. I'm just saying

715
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: that so far we haven't made it work. Well, it's

716
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 1: such a great discovery of in the sci fi world

717
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: of a a material that I guess that's why we're

718
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: having so many Avatar sequels. Yes, which is a matter

719
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: for a different show, that one being largely drunk Collider ariel.

720
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: I know you've got a couple more. You want to

721
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,240
Speaker 1: talk about about kind of getting around in the outer

722
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: space places. But before we do that, let's take another

723
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: quick break. All right. So that was a quick break,

724
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 1: but not the because we're flying it faster than light

725
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 1: through it. Oh that was horrible of me. I'm so sorry,

726
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: but he had to listen to that. All right, So

727
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: it's okay, sci fi vehicles, I guess the first thing

728
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 1: we should start with is flying in space in general. Yeah,

729
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: star Wars. I'm gonna I'm just gonna stick with Star Wars.

730
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: This is such a big topic. When you watch Star Wars.

731
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 1: Vehicles they start, they stop in space, they bank in turn,

732
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: and we know that in real life you have to

733
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: have something to push off of and then something to

734
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: stop you in space. It's not Yeah, it's not just

735
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: like putting on the brakes you've got. It's when you

736
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 1: you're in a car and you put on brakes. It's

737
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: that friction that stops you. Right. Um. So in Star Wars,

738
00:46:53,239 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: they've got all of these special ways that that space

739
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: vehicles travel so much so that they need to account

740
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: for when they're traveling in in planet atmospheres with things

741
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: like repulsor lifts that are anti gravity technology that keep

742
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: them from just smashing to the ground, yeah, or destroying

743
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: the planet as they lift off. And then when they're

744
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: in space, they use all kinds of inertial compensators I suppose,

745
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: because they use bursts of energy from This is how

746
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: they explained it, at least because they had to explain it. Uh.

747
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,760
Speaker 1: They basically use thrusters and bursts of energy from different

748
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: angles of a ship that depending on where the where

749
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: the center of gravity of the ship is in relation

750
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: to where that thruster is, will push that ship in

751
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: a certain area. But because it's space, especially if you

752
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: like you're going to hyper space travel or super fast travel,

753
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: it'll like liquefy you. So you have to have all

754
00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: these inertial compensators in your craft for acceleration, deceleration, drive,

755
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: in equalization to make sure that you don't turn into

756
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: driver's seat paste. Uh. That would be great if we

757
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: could put all of this into actual space travel. So

758
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: how likely is that not at all? Um? Yeah? So

759
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: let's be fair here because one, as we mentioned in

760
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 1: our last episode, Star Wars is science fiction adjacent, it's

761
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: not really science fiction because the science part is not

762
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: really that important. It's it's a component that is a setting,

763
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: a window dressing for the story. The story itself is

764
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 1: a fantasy story more than a science fiction story. Um.

765
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: And we also have to remember where the inspiration came

766
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: from for George Lucas when he was making Star Wars,

767
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: because he wasn't trying to make a hard science fiction story.

768
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: He was emulating certain things that he loved about cinema.

769
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 1: And one of the things he loved were they really

770
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: exciting dog fight sequences and movies that were that in

771
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,919
Speaker 1: World War Two where you would have these and in fact,

772
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 1: there are there there side by side comparisons of scenes

773
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: from older World War Two setting movies and say the

774
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 1: X Wing attack on the Death Star, where you can

775
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: see the influences side by side and say you're like,

776
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: oh wow, they almost recreated this older World War Two

777
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: movie shot for shot, but they used the Star Wars

778
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,879
Speaker 1: stuff instead. It's not quite that level, bit's close. And

779
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: so because of that, because the exciting ways that planes

780
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: can move in the atmosphere, that's how the the vehicles

781
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 1: move in Star Wars. So it was more to evoke

782
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: a feeling in the audience that was never meant to

783
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: be this is the way that stuff actually works in space, right,

784
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: so we should be fair about that, although the whole

785
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: par sex thing is still a huge problem. So there

786
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: so so keeping that in mind when you do move

787
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: to space, because as you say, aerial, there's no atmosphere there.

788
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: You can't bank off of things. You can't have these

789
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: swooping motions. And when you're using thrusters, the center of

790
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: gravity and pivot points do matter. You can do stuff.

791
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: You can have vehicles change their orientation in space, but

792
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: it takes time to do it. Uh. You don't necessarily

793
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: even have to use thrusters to do it. You can

794
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 1: use what you're called fly wheels. So if you just

795
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: think of it as literally a wheel that's mounted onto

796
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,760
Speaker 1: a rotating motor, and the wheel is weighted a little

797
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 1: bit and you rotate that wheel, you can create uh,

798
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 1: the motion necessary to alter the orientation of the spacecraft

799
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: within space. They've done this with things like satellites like

800
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: the Hubble telescope, because obviously otherwise the only option is

801
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: to load down the satellite was so much fuel that

802
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: will be able to continually operate and then use the

803
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: fuel to to do thruster adjustments. Right, that's not realistic.

804
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: So the flywheels do work, but it's not You're not

805
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 1: going to get that smooth and more importantly fast change

806
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: of direction and ability to maneuver in space the way

807
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 1: we see in Star Wars. That's just that's just not

808
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: going to happen. Um. It would be really cool if

809
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: it could. But yeah, it's a completely unrealistic depiction of

810
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: how spacecraft would travel in space. Well, it's also there's

811
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: a lot of unrealistic depiction of how fast spacecraft travel

812
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 1: in space. So let's and and each. There are lots

813
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,240
Speaker 1: of different terms for that as well in science fiction.

814
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: So let's start with light speed because I feel this

815
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: makes me really sad. We have light speed, hyperspace, and

816
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: warp speed that we want to talk about, and light

817
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: speed is the most realistic. We've almost reached it at points.

818
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: And the one that uses light speed and science fiction

819
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: is spaceballs. Well, there's a lot of other things that

820
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: use light speed, we chose we chose spaceball because they

821
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: they've gone to plaid um spaceballs. Yeah, so, so faster

822
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: than light. Um, it's completely unrealistic to ever have faster

823
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: than light travel, as in you you just have some

824
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 1: means of pushing your vehicle faster than light itself can travel. Like,

825
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: you're not talking about any other tricks. You're just talking

826
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 1: about somehow speeding up beyond the speed of light. And um,

827
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 1: the way you can think about this is that anything

828
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: that has mass, from the millennium falcon to an electron,

829
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: anything that has mass cannot travel at the speed of light. Uh.

830
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,800
Speaker 1: The only reason photons can travel at the speed of

831
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 1: light is that they have no actual mass. They have

832
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: relativistic mass, but that's different and outside the the needs

833
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: for us to have a discussion here. But they don't

834
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: have any real actual mass, so they can they can

835
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: do this. They in fact, they have to. They have

836
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 1: no option. They travel the speed of light. That's what

837
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: it is. But but anything that has mass cannot. As

838
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: you get closer to the speed of light, you get heavier,

839
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: is a good way of putting it. You get your

840
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: your your your weight, your mass really increases and it's

841
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 1: kind of like imagine you're in a hallway and there's

842
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 1: a door at the end of the hallway aerial, and

843
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: you're allowed to start walking towards that door. But I've

844
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 1: given you an a small requirement which is that each

845
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: step you take has to be half as long as

846
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 1: the last step you took. So let's say you take

847
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 1: a normal step, Well, your next step needs to be

848
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 1: half that, and your next step has to be half that,

849
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 1: and then half that. Because of that having you're never

850
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: going to reach the door at the end of the

851
00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: hallway because you're you're constantly moving forward, but at increase

852
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: incrementally smaller distances. Same thing happens when you try and

853
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: get closer to the speed of light. You can start

854
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 1: to approach it, but you're never gonna hit it, which

855
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: means you you can't go past it. Right if you're

856
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: never even gonna achieve the speed of light. If you

857
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 1: have mass, you cannot possibly go faster. Also, the thing

858
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: we have to keep in mind, this is something that

859
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: science fiction largely does away with in most cases, hard

860
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: science fiction not so much, but like casual entertainment, is

861
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 1: that as you get faster, time relative to somebody else

862
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: appears to be passing at a different rate. So if

863
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: I were staying here on Earth because I'm boring, but

864
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: you aerial, we're jumping in your space hot rod to

865
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: go light speed to someplace and then come back like

866
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: you do. When you come back to me, it would

867
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 1: seem as though time had barely passed at all for you,

868
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: that that you were you were, you know, remarkably young,

869
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: and to you it would seem as though time had

870
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: traveled very fast for me and that I had aged

871
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 1: quite a bit. For both of us, in our individual experiences,

872
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: time would pass exactly the same as it always would.

873
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,439
Speaker 1: If we were each wearing a watch. The seconds would

874
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: be taking away exactly the way they would if we

875
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 1: were standing next to each other. It's only through our

876
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: relative perspectives that we perceive a difference in the passage

877
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: of time. That would also be an issue if you

878
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,919
Speaker 1: were to travel faster than light. If you were able

879
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: to do that, you would technically be traveling faster than

880
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: how things happen, so you'd be traveling back in time.

881
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: Because imagine that you turn on a flashlight and then

882
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 1: you travel in the same direction as where you were

883
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: pointing the flashlight, but you go faster than light. You

884
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 1: would get to your destination before the light could get

885
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: to you, uh from when you turned it on when

886
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: you were back on earth, which means that when you

887
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 1: did see the light, you would be looking into the

888
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: past of Earth and see the moment where you had

889
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: done something before you did it, and you start to

890
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: get in some really difficult causal paradoxes as well. So

891
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: faster than light travel physically impossible as far as we

892
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: understand physics, and would also have to require some really

893
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: timey whiney stuff if we were. That's a lot faster

894
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: than back to the future, says with our anyhow, you

895
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: know you say that. But Star Wars and Star Trek

896
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: both kind of when they travel faster than light, they

897
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:46,720
Speaker 1: aren't accounting for just traveling in space. There either breaking

898
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: a hole through space. It's hyper space and hyper drive,

899
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 1: which is just basically creating a forced dimension and going

900
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: in one place and coming out another to the point

901
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: that the actual objects around you, the stars, eaters, things

902
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 1: like that, aren't there. There are shadows there, which is

903
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: great because you don't want to come out in the

904
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 1: middle of a meteor. But but so to me, it's

905
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: kind of like a wormhole. They're not They're not saying

906
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: I'm traveling through space faster than like. They're saying I'm

907
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: traveling so fast that I'm breaking through space to the

908
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: other side, break right onto the other side. Both of

909
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: these are interesting, right, And Star Trek, it's not that

910
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: they're breaking from one side of space to the other.

911
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: So they're going into one of those different dimensions which

912
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: you talked about. We we they theoretically exist, but we

913
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: can't do anything with them with them. But in Star Trek,

914
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: you know, they aren't breaking through like in Star Wars.

915
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: They're going into subspace through covered in a warp bubble

916
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: and coming back out the other side. So which is similar?

917
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: I guess they're similar. They're similar, So let's let's think

918
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: about these interns. So hyperspace means generally that you're you're

919
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: opening up some sort of interdimensional portal and passing through

920
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: it and then coming out of an interdimensional portal on

921
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: the other side that is located in a different point

922
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: within space, and you still have to travel in between

923
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: the two, and there's no guarantee that the two portals

924
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: are going to be super close together. So you go

925
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: into hyperspace, you might be in hyperspace for a while

926
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: as you travel through this enter dimension or this other dimension,

927
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 1: and then you come out the other interdimensional portal to

928
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: your destination. Um Hyperspace has its problems, largely also because

929
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: of episode eight of Star Wars, it totally messes with

930
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 1: the way hyperspace works in Star Wars because spoiler alert

931
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 1: if you haven't seen episode eight, but a character named

932
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: Whole No she she she has the ultimate sacrifice by

933
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: taking a rebellionship or actually a republic ship I guess,

934
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: and making it jump into hyperspace right into a star

935
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: destroyer in order to ram it essentially do a hyperspace ram.

936
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: But uh, that kind of ignores the lore of how

937
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: hyperspace works from previous Star Wars entries where you're going

938
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: into this extra dimension where you wouldn't really pass through

939
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: an object physically in our dimension that way. However, you

940
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 1: emerged from hyperspace within one of those things, then uh,

941
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: that would be bad. You would die, right like if

942
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: you were to emerge in the middle of a supernova,

943
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: your ship would be consumed. So either that maneuver shouldn't

944
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: have worked at all because she would have just jumped

945
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 1: through that ship in the other dimension and nothing would

946
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: have happened. Um or if it did work, why the

947
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: heck wasn't anyone using just just mass just ships with

948
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: a hyper drive no one on board, and use those

949
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: like torpedoes like you could literally just you can plot

950
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 1: a course. They always use a computer to plot the

951
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 1: course because without it, there's no guarantee that you wouldn't

952
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: emerge in the middle of an asteroid belt, for example,

953
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: So they use computers to plot their course. Why not

954
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: just plot your course get off the ship. You don't

955
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: have to sacrifice yourself. You can still have that happen.

956
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: And then that would also mean if you work backward. Well,

957
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 1: if that's possible, then why not just use that for

958
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: the original death start for example? Why have this very

959
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 1: risky run on the death Star. So they kind of

960
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: wrote themselves into a plot hole corner there with that

961
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 1: one um with the warp drive. The interesting thing there

962
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 1: areal is that the concept is kind of cool. Think

963
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: of think of having a map, right and you know

964
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: where Atlanta is and you know where Los Angeles is.

965
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: Those are not close together right at all. It would

966
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: be a very long drive from Atlanta to Los Angeles

967
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: couple of days. What if you were able to fold

968
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 1: the map so that Los Angeles and Atlanta right next

969
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 1: to each other, and it's a half hour drive between

970
01:00:58,040 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 1: the two, and it's just because you get to skip

971
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 1: all the middle part. But then I wouldn't see the

972
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 1: world's biggest ball as they are. And if you're going

973
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: up to Minnesota so that you can go to Los Angeles,

974
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 1: you have got crazy route planning skills. Um, yeah, so

975
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: if you. But but you get my point, the idea

976
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 1: being that instead of the Star Trek gets around the

977
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 1: idea faster than light by saying we're not really traveling

978
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 1: faster than light. What we're doing is we're warping space

979
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 1: time around the ship. We're using this warp bubble to

980
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 1: pass through time and space, uh at a rate that

981
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 1: would be faster than light if we were traveling a

982
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: straight line. But we're not traveling a straight line. We're

983
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 1: folding space in on itself so that we're getting so

984
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 1: that there's less distance between point A and point B.

985
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: And when we say go warp four or warp five

986
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 1: or warp six, that's describing the extent to which we

987
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,439
Speaker 1: are warping space in order for us to do this,

988
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: which would leave to one of the dumbest episodes of

989
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: Star Trek the Next Generation, where they would have to

990
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 1: come up with a universal warp speed limit because they

991
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: were ripping spacetime apart um so that in theory is possible.

992
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 1: It's it's something that people have actually worked on as

993
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 1: a possibility of the idea of warping spacetime in order

994
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 1: to travel faster. Now, I say in theory, because in

995
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: reality to do it, you would need so much energy

996
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:32,439
Speaker 1: that it's the equivalent of, say the mass of an

997
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 1: entire galaxy. So remember that the relationship between mass and

998
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 1: energy is E equals mc squared. Energy equals mass times

999
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 1: the speed of light multiplied by itself. That's an enormous number.

1000
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 1: So if you're looking even if you're looking at like

1001
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: a son's mass of energy, that is a pun intended

1002
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 1: and astronomical number, and that means that it is not

1003
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 1: likely to ever happen because it just requires way too

1004
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 1: much energy. And then you would have to continue to

1005
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 1: operate it. That would just be to start it. So

1006
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 1: to actually travel anywhere doing that, you would have to overcome,

1007
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 1: at least, based on our understanding right now, you would

1008
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: have to overcome energy requirements that are far beyond anything

1009
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 1: we can even conceive right now, Like we're we're still

1010
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: struggling here on Earth to meet our own energy demands

1011
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 1: without destroying the planet's ecosystem through the burning of fossil fuels.

1012
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 1: We are well beyond the ability to create a warp

1013
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 1: drive based on those energy needs. Well, you're you're right,

1014
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 1: You're very right. Uh, but there's at least some sci

1015
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 1: fi travel that we're not well beyond our capabilities to create,

1016
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 1: like hovercraft. Ok Okay, you say hovercraft, what do you

1017
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 1: mean by that? Well, it kind of flying cars, which

1018
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 1: we have some prototypes. They don't exactly work like they

1019
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 1: do in the sci fi world. But okay, I'm gonna

1020
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring it down to the simplest, the little hovercraft,

1021
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 1: skateboard and back to the future. Okay, okay, all right,

1022
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 1: well I'll say it this way. Under very restrictive circumstances,

1023
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 1: we can do something that would look similar to what

1024
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 1: we see in Back to the Future with hovering skateboards,

1025
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 1: except that you wouldn't be able to like actually use

1026
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 1: them as a skateboard, which would be kind of a bummer. Okay,

1027
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 1: so let's talk. Because you just don't have that much

1028
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 1: magnetic track to push yourself along. Well, not not that,

1029
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 1: but that your weight would push it down, like you

1030
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 1: would be too heavy for it to support. So um

1031
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 1: not you specifically areal I mean any person. Yeah, that

1032
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 1: wasn't a that wasn't a dig. So using magnets to hover,

1033
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,040
Speaker 1: that's totally possible. Like we can we can do a

1034
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 1: just with regular permanent magnets. Like you probably have seen

1035
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 1: little toys where you've got like a pedestal and a

1036
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 1: stick and you put a little disc magnet down on

1037
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 1: the stick and it floats above the pedestal. That's because

1038
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 1: the magnetic fields are are they have the same magnetic

1039
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 1: pole facing one another because like, uh, like repulses. Like so,

1040
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 1: if you have the north pole of one magnet pointing

1041
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 1: towards the north pole of a second magnet, you can

1042
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:30,439
Speaker 1: feel them pushing against each other. I'm sure anyone who's

1043
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 1: played with magnets has experienced this. If you flip one

1044
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 1: of those around so that the north pole of one

1045
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 1: in the south pole the other are facing each other,

1046
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 1: they attract and they'll stick together. So if you did

1047
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 1: have a magnetic surface, um, and let's say it's the

1048
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 1: north pole of that magnetic surfaces pointing up whether it's

1049
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 1: an electro magnet or a permanent magnet or whatever, and

1050
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 1: you had another set of permanent magnets or electro magnets.

1051
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 1: Also with the same pole facing down, you can in

1052
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 1: fact levitate above them. That's how maglev trains work. They

1053
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 1: either use permanent magnets or they use electro magnets, or

1054
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: a combination of the two, and they create this levitation

1055
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 1: through those opposed wealth the same poles facing one another essentially,

1056
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 1: so it does work. But of course the ground is

1057
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 1: not magically all magnetically oriented the same way, so we

1058
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 1: can't we can't have yeah, yeah, boy, we can dream,

1059
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 1: but you know, you can't have like a just a

1060
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 1: board that hovers over this. One thing that also I

1061
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 1: wanted to mention though, is that we were talking about

1062
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 1: super conductors earlier. If you get a super conductive material

1063
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 1: and you you really get it super cold, and you

1064
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 1: get magnets set up. Uh. One of the interesting things

1065
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 1: about about getting the temperature of a material that cold,

1066
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:58,959
Speaker 1: a super conductive material that cold, is that you get

1067
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 1: was called like a quantum lock, a magnetic lock on

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Speaker 1: that it locks out fields magnetic fields from the substance,

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Speaker 1: but as long as the substance has some imperfections in it,

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Speaker 1: some magnetic fields will get through. This means that if

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Speaker 1: you have let's let's say as you've got a bed

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Speaker 1: of magnets just in a in a strip from one

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Speaker 1: to the other, and they're all connected to each other

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Speaker 1: because you have north pole to south Pole to north

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Speaker 1: Pole to south pole to north Pole to south pole.

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Speaker 1: So you've got a chain of these magnets. You put

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Speaker 1: the super cool material over this chain of magnets, it

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Speaker 1: will lock into place, uh, with its orientation with regard

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Speaker 1: to those magnets, and you could just give it a

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Speaker 1: little tap and it'll just float right over those magnets

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Speaker 1: or right under the magnets. Like it'll just magically seem

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Speaker 1: to to lock into place at whatever distance you've put it.

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Speaker 1: As long as you're within the magnetic field of those magnets,

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Speaker 1: it will stay in that place. If you tilt it

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Speaker 1: a certain way, it will maintain that same tilt as

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Speaker 1: it floats over or under the path of magnets. The

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Speaker 1: first time I ever saw this on YouTube, it blew

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Speaker 1: my mind. I was I was like, this is trippy,

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Speaker 1: and uh, it is an incredible thing, but again not

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Speaker 1: something we could do in our day to day world,

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Speaker 1: in our real lives. There are other methods like the

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Speaker 1: flying cars you mentioned, where you can use things like propellers,

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Speaker 1: jet engines, that kind of stuff, but you're not using

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Speaker 1: magnetic levitation. There's also other types of levitation. There's acoustic levitation,

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Speaker 1: where you're using sound waves, but again not something that

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Speaker 1: you could easily do with a vehicle. So there are

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Speaker 1: ways we can make flying vehicles, and there are ways

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Speaker 1: that we can make cool experiments with hovering materials, but

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Speaker 1: not at the level that we see in science fiction. Sadly,

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Speaker 1: I remember even when Back to the Future two came

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Speaker 1: out and they actually perpetuated the rumor that there were

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Speaker 1: in fact those real skateboards, but mauntel uh uh did

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Speaker 1: would they withdrew all of them from the market for

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Speaker 1: fear of lawsuits, but that they really did exist, and

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Speaker 1: that was all just a publicity stunt. And I think

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Speaker 1: I think with that, while we still have other things

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Speaker 1: we could talk about Ariel, because we didn't even touch

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Speaker 1: on teleportation or any of that other stuff, But then

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Speaker 1: I think we're gonna have to call it quits because

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Speaker 1: this has already been a second epic long episode of

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Speaker 1: tech stuff and if I go any longer, tari will

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Speaker 1: kill me. And we don't want that. No, because we

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Speaker 1: needed to continue to edit and produce Large Nerdrun Collider, which, again,

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Speaker 1: for you out there who aren't familiar, Ariel and I

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Speaker 1: have a new show on I Heart Radio called The

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Speaker 1: Large Nerdrun Collider, which is actually version two point oh

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Speaker 1: of that show. The show existed several years ago, where

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Speaker 1: we talk about pop culture news. We do deep dives

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Speaker 1: into topics that are important in the Gecko sphere, and

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Speaker 1: we also mash up different properties and different concepts within

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Speaker 1: speculative fiction and pop culture to find out what happens

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Speaker 1: when people stop being polite and start getting real. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if any of my listeners even recognize that reference.

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Speaker 1: If if you're of the MTV generation and you understood

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Speaker 1: what I was just referring to, give me a tweet

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Speaker 1: tech stuff h s W, I'm curious here or Ellen

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Speaker 1: c Underscore podcast that's the other Twitter feed and and

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Speaker 1: I think you'll really enjoy those. One of the nice

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Speaker 1: things about the l NC episodes is that Ariel gets

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Speaker 1: to talk a lot more that on tech stuff. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I could talk more, but you're the expert on these things,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, experts of the experts, weighty words, but I'll

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Speaker 1: take it you're less ignorant on some of how these

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Speaker 1: things actually work. So fair enough, I'm happy to let

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Speaker 1: you talk and learn some things in the process, and

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Speaker 1: it's been a lot of fun. Thanks for having me absolutely,

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Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. And and guys, make sure

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Speaker 1: you go and check out the large Nerdron Collider. We've

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Speaker 1: got some great episodes already in the can. They are

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Speaker 1: live right now. You can use whatever pod catching app

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Speaker 1: you like to subscribe to it and you'll be able

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Speaker 1: to hear our thoughts about, you know, important stuff that's

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Speaker 1: going on in the world's of geek culture and pop culture,

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Speaker 1: and also our our flights of fancy, which are a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun for us to do. There's been some

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Speaker 1: very creative uh mash ups already. I'm so happy about them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're they're pretty entertaining, if I do say so myself.

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Speaker 1: I hope you liked that classic episode. I guess it's

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Speaker 1: not classic two year old episode of tech Stuff. And

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Speaker 1: if you have suggestions, remember reach out to me on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: The handle for the show is tech Stuff hs w

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Speaker 1: all one word and I'll be on the lookout for it.

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Speaker 1: I'm eager to see your suggestions for topics and guests

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Speaker 1: I should have on the show, and I'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you again really soon. Y Text Stuff is an I

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Speaker 1: heart Radio production. For more podcasts from I heart Radio,

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Speaker 1: visit the i heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever

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