1 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: And just like that, we're back another episode of Late 2 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: Kick extra ready for your listening pleasure. I am Josh Pate. 3 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 1: You guys have done a phenomenal job, to say the least, 4 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: filling the inbox. This week. We got everything from train 5 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: hopping and tornado chasing stories to what if Texas became 6 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 1: an independent? If we kick someone out of a conference, 7 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: who should we put in there? We got a million 8 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: different questions. 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And now with all the boring call to 26 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: action stuff out of the way, let's dive in. It 27 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: is this week's edition of Late Kick Extra. Gabe leads 28 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: us off with a question then pretty much everyone wanted 29 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: to know, and that is what are my thoughts on 30 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: the Big ten schedule release? And this is happening well 31 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: Wednesday morning, so right before we send this off to edit, 32 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: the first thing that stands out to me is the format. 33 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: You know they're going to start after all of the 34 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: concern about is Rutger is going to cause the season 35 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: to be canceled. They're going to start on Labor Day 36 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: weekend the third through the fifth in September, so they're 37 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: starting largely at what would be considered on time. You've 38 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: got two scheduled bye weeks, including every team having a 39 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: bye week either the second or the third to last 40 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: week of the season, which means you have this kind 41 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: of reservoir that you could spill over unplayed games into 42 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: you Also, since you play the conference championship game, on 43 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: December fifth, scheduled at least on December fifth. You give 44 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: yourself this two week window between when you want to 45 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: play your conference title game and when you really need 46 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: to play your conference title game. Remember the SEC is 47 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: not playing theirs until December nineteenth, and thirdly, building themselves 48 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: in as much will room as possible. They're also playing 49 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: a cross division opponent for everyone the last weekend of 50 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: the regular season, which means theoretically you could dump that 51 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: if you needed to to make up a game or 52 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: if you just can't play that game, and you would 53 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: have your division standing still intact. Wisconsin to me the 54 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: big winner here, Big congratulations to Paul Christ. Not only 55 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: do they miss Penn State and they miss Ohio's, they 56 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: get Michigan the week after Michigan plays Ohio State. They 57 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: also get Minnesota at home early in the year, and 58 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: they have a bye before they play Iowa. You couldn't 59 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: have shaken it out any better if you yourself made 60 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 1: the conference schedule. Maryland. Woof, woof, woof. How about this 61 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 1: six game stretch to end the year? They play Wisconsin, 62 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: they play at Penn State, they play Ohio State at Michigan, Minnesota, 63 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: they play all of those games in the final six 64 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: games of the season. Also, Taliatungua Bailoa is it going 65 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: to be eligible at quarterback? Is he going to get 66 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: his transfer waiver approved? Who knows? There. Also, the placement 67 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: of some of these games is important to note. Ohio 68 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: State plays Penn State and that is the second leg 69 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: of a back to back road game stretch for Ohio State. Now, 70 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: how bigger crowd is going to be this year? Where 71 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: we have crowds at all? Is playing back to back 72 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: games on the road nearly as stressful and taxing as 73 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: it normally is. I'm asking a lot of questions that 74 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: I myself don't have the answers to. Also, Michigan and 75 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: plays Ohio State and they're at Ohio State the week 76 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: after they're on the road, So a back to back 77 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: road stretch there that caps with a trip to Columbus, 78 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: Ohio for Michigan, and again the Big Ten championship game 79 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: December fifth. Those are just some of the takeaways. We're 80 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: going to talk about that a lot more on Thursday 81 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: Night's Late Kick Live. So you want to tune into that, 82 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: Let's get right into it. Jeff, I've never felt buzz 83 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: in college football recruiting, where social media and message boards, YouTube, 84 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: they all seem to be on a similar page about 85 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: a program's direction. Until now with Miami, it seems like 86 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: all the signs are pointing towards them being able to 87 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 1: shake up college football. What is happening down there? This 88 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: is it, Jeff. We talked about this on Late Kick 89 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 1: Live Sunday night. This is the subculture, it's the undercurrent, 90 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: it's the pulse that is college football in the NFL 91 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: and pro sports. It's pretty much all on the radar. 92 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: It's pretty much all reported. All the practices are open 93 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: to the public. They have to make all the injuries 94 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: public none and so there's not a whole lot of 95 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: behind the scenes information you get relative to the huge 96 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: sums of behind the scenes information you could have at 97 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: the college level, that subculture, that undercurrent, that pulse. When 98 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: something's brewing, you feel it there. First, the general college 99 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: football public kind of laughs it off. Now some people 100 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: genuinely just don't believe it, and then some other people 101 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: are laughing as kind of a defense mechanism, hoping the 102 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: buzz isn't founded in legitimacy really, because they may be 103 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: your rival fans. So with Miami right now, there is buzz. 104 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,799 Speaker 1: Oh it's been there for about a month, two months, 105 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: and in some cases it's been there since Manny Diaz 106 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: got hired. But right now they are really heating up 107 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: and recruiting. And it's not that they've landed all the 108 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: kids they want yet they are either trending for or 109 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: have landed some of those kids. And what's happening is 110 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: they seem to be in the process of properly harnessing 111 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: kind of a vision based recruiting strategy. They don't have 112 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: on field product to sell yet. They're not coming off 113 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: a you know, A and two campaign where they went 114 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: to the conference championship game and nearly missed a playoff spot. 115 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: That's not what Miami was last year in year one 116 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: er Di Diaz. But what they're able to do right 117 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: now is they're able to package up this vision and 118 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: they're selling kids, namely kids in South Florida, on what 119 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: Miami could be if they stayed home. And James Williams 120 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: bought into it. We all thought he was going to 121 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: Georgia and all of a sudden, he's a five star 122 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: athlete from down there in South Florida. He commits to 123 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: Miami shuts his recruitment down. Now you got all eyes 124 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: on Jason Taylor, five star defensive back from South Florida. 125 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: Leonard Taylor commits later this week, I think Thursday or Friday, 126 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: So depending on when you're listening, he may already have committed. 127 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: And Leonard Taylor is a five star defensive tackle. These 128 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: guys are all from the same area down there, same 129 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: school in some cases, and so if they land those 130 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: kinds of guys, even coming off a down performance, a 131 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: subpar record, what it does is it makes everyone understandably say, 132 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: wait a second. If they're landing these guys even having 133 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: been pretty poorous on the field last year, well, number one, 134 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: it doesn't look like they'll be poorous much longer. In 135 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: number two, What will their recruiting be like if they 136 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: are humming on the field now, the defense mechanism is, oh, 137 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,679 Speaker 1: don't worry, you know they'll all decommit. Miami will barely 138 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: make up old game if they do this year. I've 139 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: seen a lot of people say that this week because 140 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: we again we talked about this on Late Kick Live Thursday. 141 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: You wouldn't wager on that statement. First off, most people 142 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: just don't believe that you say it because it makes 143 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: you feel better. You don't believe all these kids are 144 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: going to decomit from Miami if they do end up 145 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: committing there. You don't really believe that. You would never 146 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: wager your actual money on that statement. Number two, I 147 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: wouldn't be sleeping on Miami in twenty twenty. They're probably 148 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: uniquely poised to surprise people this year because of the 149 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: uncertainty elsewhere. And again, that's something we talked about Thursday night. 150 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: If you want to go find that video, it is 151 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: on the twenty four to seven Sports YouTube channel. Next up, Andrew, 152 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: how different would Georgia be perceived nationally if guys like 153 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: Lawrence Kazier and DeAndre Swift were healthy for the whole 154 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: season last year and the SEC championship game, Well, Andrew, obviously, 155 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: it would have given them an opportunity maybe to try 156 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: and push the ball down the field a little bit 157 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: more against LSU. Remember they lost Don Blaylock in that 158 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: game too. It was just a confluence of horrible, horrible 159 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: events for Georgia offensively, But that's in the past. Here's 160 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: the way I'd do this. I would spin it a 161 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: different way, But you got to be careful. It doesn't 162 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: need to sound like you're making excuses if you're Georgia, 163 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: if you're Kirby Smart. But what you want to make 164 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: sure people remember is you want to make sure people 165 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: remember that you were injured, and you want to publicly 166 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: to your players sell that we don't make excuses around here. 167 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: But privately, you also don't want people to talk about 168 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: how you just got blown off the field against LSU. 169 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: So what you want to do is subtly, you want 170 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: to make sure people remember, well, we were gutted offensively 171 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: by the time we got to that LSU game. I mean, 172 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: any chance that we had probably went out the window 173 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: with those injuries. And what that does is it kind 174 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: of insulates you from being criticized for being handled at 175 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: the hands of LSU, and it makes people think, Okay, 176 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: well next time we get there and maybe we're healthy, 177 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: different story. Next question is from Twitter. By the way, 178 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: at Late Kick Josh on Twitter is how you can 179 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: follow me and listen Guys. As the season gets closer, 180 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: we'll only have more traction and more conversation on platforms 181 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: like Twitter. A lot of you converse with me back 182 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: and forth during the week using Twitter and as you know, 183 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: I make myself about as available as anyone in this 184 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 1: business does because I understand at least that you're the 185 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: reason I'm here to begin with. So I'm happy, more 186 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: than happy to talk to you. It's kind of my job. 187 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: What else am I going to do? So anyway, m 188 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: one K asks you always talk about how there's only 189 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: so many wins to go around in a conference and 190 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: someone has to take the l's. Well, I'd like to 191 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: know your thoughts on which middle of the pack SEC 192 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: program could elevate themselves by leaving the conference. My example 193 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: would be Auburn. All right. Well, first off, Auburn I 194 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: don't view as being middle of the pack, but i'll 195 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: entertain that for the record. Cant Lucky would be my pick. 196 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: Kentucky is middle of the pack in the SEC. If 197 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: you were to be able to perfectly package Kentucky as 198 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: they are right now and drop them in let's say 199 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: the ACC, suffice to say, they would be much more 200 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: thought of as a national contender, as a conference contender, 201 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: as a New Year's Day Bowl contender than they are 202 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: in the SEC. Go back to Auburn, though, and we 203 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: can draw Kentucky in here too. The trick to answering 204 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: this question. It's all hypothetical. Number one, that's the trick. 205 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: But number two, the trick is you can't just assume 206 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: that you'd place these teams elsewhere, but you'd maintain everything 207 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: about the investment and the buy in and basically the 208 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: stuff that being in the pressure cooker of the SEC 209 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: has forced them to do just to keep up. Like 210 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: at Auburn, you were dealing right up the road about 211 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: two two and a half hours with the greatest dynasty 212 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: in all likelihood in the history of the sport. That's 213 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: your rival. Not to mention, your number two rival is 214 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: over Athens knocking on the door of a national championship. 215 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,719 Speaker 1: Your number three rival just won a national championship. We've 216 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: discussed this many times. But what does that force you 217 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: to do if you want to even stay relevant? Think 218 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: about the insane amounts of buying and commitment you have 219 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: to have. Well, that just makes Auburn relevant nationally. And 220 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: you're thinking to yourself, and I understand the train of thought. Okay, 221 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: well if we could take all that, but we put 222 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: him in a less competitive conference, then maybe they'd shine 223 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: more nationally. Yeah, if you could drop them in there, 224 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: and guarantee that all that stuff remains unchanged. But I 225 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: think that that pressure forces a lot of what Auburn 226 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: is and I don't know that you could just manufacture 227 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: that if they weren't constantly feeling that pressure. Next up, 228 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: Gators are Stupid back for a fourth straight week. I 229 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: want to stress that that is not my sentiment. That 230 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: is the name of the poster, and he is asking 231 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: something that is certainly not derogatory towards Georgia. This week, 232 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: Gators are Stupid asks what do you think the season 233 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: opener atmosphere between Georgia and Clemson will be like in 234 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: Charlotte in twenty twenty one? Well, at this point I'd 235 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: be jacked, to be honest with you. If you took 236 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: the Campbell Fighting Camels and put them on the field 237 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: against my high school alma mater, Harris County High School, 238 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: and we played in a sand lot somewhere, I'd be 239 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: jacked at this point. Think about this answer, though, I mean, 240 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: you got to tell me what twenty twenty holds, and 241 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: no one truly knows what the answer to that is. 242 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: But is a game like the one you just pointed out, 243 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: Georgia versus Clemson to open the season twenty twenty one. 244 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: Is that going to be the first or among the 245 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: first legitimate college football games at stadium capacity that we 246 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: will have seen at that point in two years? Because 247 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 1: that is a distinct possibility. And if that's the case, 248 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: imagine that opening weekend. For that matter. If we can 249 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: get back to normal by next spring, imagine what spring 250 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: games may be like. You could see spring sellouts all 251 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: over the place. So hey, I look forward to anything 252 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: that resembles normalcy at this point. Next up, this one 253 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: is non football. How about this non football question, says Trevor. 254 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: What is the most frightening and most dangerous situation you've 255 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: ever found yourself in? While storm chasing those of you 256 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: who've listened to this regularly. No, sometimes we delve into 257 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: non football related topics because I let you ask anything 258 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: you want to within reason. Of course, within reason, you 259 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: can't ask about our employees' love lives. In most cases, 260 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: I will not go into that. I don't know if 261 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: you ask. If you ask me about Trey Scott someone 262 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: like that, Yeah, I'm a trash tray Scott on here 263 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: and send him kissy face emojis in the slack rooms. 264 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: So back to Trevor's question non football question, most frightening 265 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: and most dangerous situation You've ever been in while storm chasing. 266 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: I've done and participated in storm chasing, both professionally and 267 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: before that as a hobby for better part of fifteen years. Now. 268 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: March third, twenty nineteen is by a sizable margin, the 269 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: most dangerous situation I've ever been in. We were chasing 270 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: in Beauregard, Alabama. We were chasing what ended up being 271 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 1: a killer EF for tornado. We got about eight tenths 272 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: of a mile away from that core, about to cross 273 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: a highway that we were headed down. We were doing 274 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 1: what is called core punching, which means approaching a or 275 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: high precipitation super cell from the north, which is terrible 276 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: because you're blinded by rain. You can't see anything frequent 277 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: hail cores in those portions of those super cells. And 278 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: we knew what we had because we had all the 279 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: data in the car, all the fancy equipment that I'm 280 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: proud that I don't have to pay for. And so 281 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: you had a debris ball with a signature well north 282 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: of twenty five thousand feet, which is insane. That's like 283 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: flying into commercial jet and seeing two by fours at 284 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: that altitude crazy. And we had everything maxed out, gait 285 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: to gate, a lot of the nerd alert meteorological type stuff, 286 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: so we knew what we had in front of us, 287 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: but we couldn't see it. I don't know how many 288 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: of you have ever been in a situation where you 289 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: legitimately thought you were facing death or you were in 290 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: a near death sort of situation or experience. That's my time. 291 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: That's when it happened. We're on a rural highway in 292 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: Lee County, Alabama. This is not I sixty five. There's 293 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: not a spot where you can just turn around, you know, 294 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: every few hundred yards, And we knew we had a 295 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: monster on the ground in front of us. These tornadoes 296 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: in the South do not sit still and stay pretty 297 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: like they do in the Midwest normally in the spring. 298 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: They're moving. They're moving south, southwest, north northeast at about 299 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: fifty to sixty miles an hour. This one was moving 300 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: about fifty five miles an hour. So anyway, I got 301 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: a couple of first time chasers with me. I do 302 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: not let them know what's happening. One of them's driving. 303 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: I didn't let them know what was happening. I tried 304 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: to maintain calmness, which I don't have that big a 305 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: problem doing, and I did, and I calmly let them 306 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: know we need to turn it around here. They just 307 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: thought we were turning around because the rain and hail 308 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: was too heavy. We turned around, we got out of there. 309 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: It ended up crossing in front of us. We come 310 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: back in behind it, total and complete destruction. We ended 311 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: up pinging ourselves on a map and charting it afterwards. 312 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: A few days afterwards, when the fatality numbers started to 313 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: come in. This was a horrible, horrible tornado. It was 314 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: a high end E four tornado. We had twenty three 315 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: fatalities within a six tens of a mile radius from 316 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: the point that we had been at before we turned around. 317 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: We probably turned around about forty five seconds to a 318 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: minute and a half before the front part of that 319 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: tornado ended up crossing that highway in front of us. 320 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: Ended up being nine tenths of a mile wide at 321 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: that point, by the way, so there was about a 322 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: thirty or forty five second period there that felt like 323 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: you do as a roller coaster starts to go down 324 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: the first steep drop where you don't have your bearings, 325 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: you don't feel grounded. You got that feeling in your stomach. 326 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: There is an unmistakable adrenaline rush, the lights of which 327 00:16:55,680 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: you could never explain, never duplicate. There's no since you 328 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: could put in your body that duplicates what you feel 329 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: in that moment. Anyone who's ever been in a near 330 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 1: death experience knows exactly what I'm talking about. That's as 331 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: close to near death as I've ever been. And then 332 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: we went into search and rescue, and it was a 333 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: terrible night and we saw a lot of horrible, horrible things. 334 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: The smell of pine, fresh pine. If you've ever been 335 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: in a heavily wooded area after a tornado comes through, 336 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: it is so thick that it clogs your nostrils. You 337 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: can't breathe at first, just like breathing in freezing cold 338 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: air when you walk outside, if you live in the 339 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: north or northeast, first thing in the morning, it's hard 340 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: to breathe. It's kind of the same way, except instead 341 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: of cold air, it's just the smell of pine everywhere. 342 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: So that was the most frightening and most dangerous situation 343 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: I've been in while stormchasing. Next up, this guy's name, 344 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 1: as he put it in the podcast review section, is 345 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: they took all the names seven six'. Nine but he 346 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: did have a good. QUESTION i know you said you 347 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: aren't on the Recruiting Rankings, council but you listen in 348 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: on their. Meetings what's taken into account when they rank? 349 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: PLAYERS i, know film and height and weight and drill, time. 350 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: Etc but what else is? There, well all of the, 351 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: above AND i would add with nothing weighted. DISPROPORTIONATELY i 352 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: don't think that they get drunk on a kid having 353 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 1: a four to three, four even though he can't catch 354 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: and he can't square off an en, route and you 355 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: know he can't process a playbook to save his, life 356 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 1: but he can run a four to three, Four so 357 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 1: let's put five stars next to his. Name that's not 358 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: how this. Works and As i've told you, before, No 359 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 1: i'm not on the Rank Rankings, council BUT i sit 360 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: down on their meetings frequently just for this very. Reason 361 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: when someone asks me a question like you just, ASKED 362 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: i want to be able to honestly answer it instead 363 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 1: of just guessing my way through. It AND i want 364 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: to experience this from, myself because, see when there was 365 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: a time previous to me being in this, industry WHEN 366 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: i would talk about recruiting AND i, would you, know 367 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: look at it along with you, guys there may have 368 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,360 Speaker 1: been questions in the back of my mind and are 369 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: there various biases in the? Room you, know do they 370 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 1: really do their due, diligence, this that and the. Other 371 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: all those questions were answered to me first TIME i 372 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: ever set in on a call, here, honestly and then 373 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: the several times after, that it's just been. Validated but 374 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: here's the way it. Happens there are a lot of 375 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: folks on these. Calls there are a lot of different 376 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: viewpoints that get put on the. Table everything gets chopped. 377 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: Up no one's feelings are, immune and it is. Great listen. 378 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: To the first thing there is a major point of 379 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: emphasis on is getting verified. Numbers doesn't matter if a 380 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: kid sends you in A TWITTER dm or an email 381 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: that he's sixty five two forty or that he runs 382 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: a four four. Forty you, know there used to be 383 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: thousands of four to four forties everyone coming out of high. 384 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: SCHOOL i run a four to. Four, well then you 385 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: get them in a camp setting and you lazer time 386 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: them and you found out that for four was actually 387 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: a four to sixty, three which is still not, terrible 388 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: but it's not four to. Four so that's one thing you. 389 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 1: Want second thing is how many eyeballs can they get 390 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: on a kid and then do their in person observations 391 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: sort of confirm or validate what they've seen on. Tape 392 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 1: and the other thing that you may be watching for 393 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: is are you dealing with a camp star instead of 394 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: a football, player because the camp setting sometimes is built 395 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: to let certain guys shine in shorts and A t 396 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: shirt and then you strap it up and you put 397 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: pads On friday night and they're a, ghost but they 398 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: test off the. Charts the other question that a lot 399 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: of people ask, about and this is When i'm still 400 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: fascinated by his. Character sometimes you'll get a guy who 401 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: is a five star from the neck down and from 402 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: the neck. Up AS i like to, say there are 403 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: all kinds of question. Marks there was a GUY i 404 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: don't feel like we need to name, him but very 405 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: recently this last, class who had five of those stars 406 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: next to his name for various parts of the, process 407 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: but his recruitment was a wild, one to say the. 408 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: Least here's What i've. Observed they have to be certain 409 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 1: character flaws and a guy to even consider dropping him rankings. 410 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: Wise because of, that What i've noticed is good character 411 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: can definitely warrant a little bit of a bump in the, 412 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: ratings but it takes certainty over character flaws to be 413 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: dropping any. Kids that is my. Observation that is not 414 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: a statement from the Rankings council. Themselves so it is very. 415 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: Thorough it is bias. FREE i know that a lot 416 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: of you don't believe. That ALL i can do is 417 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: tell YOU i sit in on these. MEETINGS i would 418 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: tell you. Otherwise the only bias is getting it. Right 419 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: that's the only. Bias these are the best in the 420 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 1: world at what they. Do no. Regrets is next. Up 421 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: this is a beautifully worded. Question listen to it closely 422 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: and know your. Mascots should the top half of THE 423 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: aac be wary of The East Carolina university pirates coming 424 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: after their? Booty you see what he did there, Again 425 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: know your, terminal and know your. Mascots they returned the 426 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: fourth most production in all OF, fbs And Mike houston's 427 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: team showed promise in games Against cincinnati AND smu last. Year, 428 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 1: yes this is my. Answer now sometimes WHEN i re 429 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: listen to, THIS i can't tell where the question, ends 430 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: and my answer, began so line and now here's my. Answer, 431 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: YEAH i think that people should be wary of, them 432 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: BUT i think twenty twenty one is going to be 433 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: the year to watch out FOR ecu if you know 434 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: anything about. Them last, year a lot of you don't 435 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: BELIEVE i WATCHED g five, games BUT i do. Religiously 436 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: they played a whole bunch of young. Guys the results 437 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: were about as. Expected you, know you talked about how 438 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: they were really close and they Pushed cincinnati AND. Smu 439 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: yeah they, did and they also struggled AGAINST fcs. Teams 440 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: SO i mean they got a passing game that probably 441 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: could go north of four thousand yards this. Year the 442 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: run game is one of my. Concerns defensive, LINE i 443 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: think they're putting a bunch of new guys in there. 444 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: TOO i think anything north of five hundred this year 445 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: would be considered a. Win and then next year you 446 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: got a guy that's done it at THE fcs level 447 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: before as your head coach In. Houston next year would 448 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: be the year THAT i would circle FOR. Ecu next 449 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 1: up Is nerdict twenty. Three what is your opinion Of Less. 450 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: Miles did this guy just step into a winning Team saban. 451 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: Built his one and only national title was four years 452 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: After sabin LEFT. Lsu, well that's. TRUE i, mean how 453 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: many other guys that are active today have national titles? 454 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: Period so you win one anytime you've done. Something in my, 455 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: book he came along to me about ten years too. 456 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: Early Less miles is a perfect example of a guy 457 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: who needed to do what Ed Or zern does ironically 458 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: at the same. Program he needed to delegate. More he 459 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: needed to get out of his offenses. Way, now they 460 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: were a recruiting machine Under, sabin and that Infrastructure saban put, 461 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: Together it'd take a whole lot to screw that, up 462 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: And miles did not screw it. Up he was actually 463 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: a good. Recruiter they had a good recruiting staff under Less, 464 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: miles so they didn't screw up the infrastructure That saban 465 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: had put in. There but they just played this unnecessarily 466 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: risk averse. Style some, places most famously and most recently 467 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: places Like Michigan state Under mike, D'Antonio they have to 468 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: play risk. Averse they don't have a roster loaded with five, 469 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: stars so that style of play works for them and 470 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: has worked for, them and was totally. Understandable it went 471 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: sideways at the, end but it was totally understandable in 472 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 1: their prime under D'Antonio that they played that. Way that 473 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: is not what you should be doing AT lsu now 474 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 1: or in the. Past they were playing like pickup truck 475 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: football With ferrari, players and that's only good enough until 476 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: someone better moves in next door and understands the tools 477 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: that he has at his, disposal and that Was Nick, 478 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: saban and they were competitive with, him but they were 479 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 1: just that much better AT lsu or At. Alabama rather next, 480 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: up As, sean what are the odds of a college 481 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 1: football playoff this year and what are the Odds florida 482 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: is a part of? It, Well, FLORIDA i, mean let 483 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 1: me see their schedule. First i'm at a disadvantage, now 484 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: AS i told, you this is late, night early Morning 485 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: tuesday Or wednesday, rather AND i assume we're going to 486 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: get a schedule as soon as we press record or 487 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 1: end record and then we send this, in we're going 488 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: to get a. Schedule So i'm answering this and SAYING 489 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: i want to See florida's schedule. Beforehand knowing full, well 490 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 1: we'll probably Have florida's schedule by the time you're listening to, 491 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: this so let's just table The florida. Talk But sean did, 492 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: ask what are the odds of a college football playoff this? 493 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: Year if there's a, Season i'm very confident there'll be a. Playoff. 494 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 1: Sean the same people deciding on the season are the 495 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: ones who are ultimately going to decide on the college football. 496 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: Playoffs so if we got a season that goes anywhere 497 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: near the link that they have outlined it to, GO 498 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: i think we'll have a. Playoff brennan is next. Up brennan, 499 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: asks what is your opinion Of Kellen mond and what 500 00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: do you think Of TEXAS a And m's quarterback position 501 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: after he. Leaves kellen mand to, Me brendan is good 502 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: in a lot of. AREAS i don't see much greatness 503 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: in any of those. Areas so you can win with. 504 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: THAT i don't know if you can win national championships with, 505 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: it but he is. Good he's not a bad quarterback 506 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: in any of those. Areas he's good in a lot of. 507 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: Areas but behind, him it's an interesting mixture. There for, 508 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: instance a guy Like KALZADA i think is the kid's, 509 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: Name Zach. Kalzada he got experience before they red shirted 510 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: him last, year so they perfectly worked the red shirt 511 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: rule for, him got him some, experience but still got 512 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: the shirt on. Him but then you got a couple 513 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 1: of Four stars And king And Eli stowers is. There 514 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: So Jimbo fisher is gonna have plenty to choose from, 515 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: there and it could be a situation after this year 516 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: where they're losing a guy who's got a ton of, 517 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: experience and so you'll have the old talking points of 518 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: Ooh Jimbo fisher In TEXAS a and m question marks at. 519 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: Quarterback dare we say quarterback, controversy WHICH i say. Sarcastically 520 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 1: we don't believe in quarterback controversies. Here the only controversy 521 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: is if if your quarterback take someone, hostage then you 522 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: got a quarterback. Controversy but depth and competition at the, 523 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: position that's not. Controversial that's just what we, said depth and, 524 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: competition that's what those things. Are and so they're going 525 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,479 Speaker 1: to have a few options to choose from. There and 526 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: my point is that you may be a situation a 527 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: year from now where the preview. Magazine culture is telling, You, 528 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 1: Oh texas and n and taking a step back because 529 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: they're having to replace a. Quarterback and it may be 530 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: the actually ended up taking a step forward because you've 531 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: had enough time to develop guys and they are just 532 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: better and more talented options than who you had on campus. 533 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: Previously In Kellen mond bless, him as we, said he's not. 534 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 1: Bad he's a good, quarterback just not. Great so bookmark 535 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 1: that for a year from. Now all. Right we were 536 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 1: talking a second ago about the most frightening storm chasing 537 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 1: situations And benji asked a very similar. Question but here's 538 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 1: what he, asked what was your most dangerous situation you've 539 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: ever experience while train? Hopping talking about subculture With miami, 540 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 1: earlier this is kind of a. Subculture unto lape, kick you, 541 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: know when we get deeper into these podcasts where it's 542 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: just you AND i and hopefully management's not listening and 543 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: law enforcement's not. Listening that's, okay as we a statue 544 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: of limitations is a couple of buddies of mine erroneously 545 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: like to, say has passed on this SO i can 546 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: tell you this. Story but the subculture here, is, Yeah 547 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: i've hopped trains once in a while in my, Past 548 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 1: so two thousand and six was the. Year don't ask 549 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: WHY i remember. That it was the first time that 550 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: me and a couple of DUDES i used to hang 551 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: out with we ever actually successfully hopped a freight. Train 552 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: just something we always wanted to. Do you, know if 553 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: it's cool enough for, hobos it's cool enough for. Us 554 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: so we are in forts And, georgia just north Of. 555 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: Columbus there is a rock cory, There, vulcan and it's 556 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: not the only Place vulcan, exists but they've got a 557 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: rock cory, there still, do and so they'd run a 558 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: train every night north From. Columbus it's only like fifteen. 559 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: Miles they'd run it up. There they would take some 560 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: empty hopper up, there and then they would drop those 561 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: off and pick up full cars of, ballast which is 562 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: a fancy rock corry andry term for, rocks the same 563 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: kind of, rocks ironically that you see on the side 564 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: of railroad. Tracks so they'd pull them out of the 565 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: quarry and then they put them on the main line 566 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: and then the engines that pulled them out would have 567 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: to detach and go around the train on another track 568 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: to the. Front and so while those engines were going 569 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: from the back to the, front that's when our plan 570 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: was to hop. On so there we. Go it's not, 571 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: moving it's. Easy we just climbed a ladder and hopped 572 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: on and we've got it. Made. Man we got our 573 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: flashlights up, there and it's three of us up, there 574 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: and so we're just talking same Volume i'm talking to 575 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: you right now with and we're not even thinking about 576 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: the fact that there's a guy that had to switch 577 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: that track back To maine on the back of this, 578 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: train that's going to walk from the back of that 579 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: train to the front of the. Train and so we're 580 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: up there. Talking ten minutes has gone, by we're getting 581 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: ready to, move or so we, thought and all of 582 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: a sudden we see flashlight and this is, bad, bad, 583 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: bad it's bad news. Bears and sure, enough the guy 584 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: that was walking from the back to the, front here's 585 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: the rookie freight, hoppers could be their first, trip and 586 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: he hears the voice and he shines the light up. 587 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: There now we laid with our backs on those rocks 588 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: and we're just staring up at the sky and all 589 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: we can see are, stars and then a future of 590 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: us in front of a judge the next. Day and 591 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: then that guy kept walking and he never climbed up. 592 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: THERE i don't blame, him because he couldn't know that 593 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: it was three punk kids up, there and for all he, 594 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: knew it was guys with a, shive and he didn't 595 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: really feel like he was paid enough to check it, 596 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: out so he goes to the. Front we end up. 597 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: Moving all's, well that ends, well, right absolutely. Not we 598 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: get into. Town we knew where these trains, stopped so 599 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: we would park a truck where we knew we were 600 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: going to hop, off and then we would take another 601 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: truck and take it to our hot. Point and we 602 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: stop exactly where we thought we, would and we climbed 603 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: down exactly how we thought we. Would but then what 604 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: we didn't plan on was about fifteen cars up from, 605 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: us there he stands and he's waiting on us to get, 606 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: off and then he starts coming for, us and so 607 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: we high tailed it and we had to slide down 608 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: this long grass hill behind An italian restaurant that won't 609 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: be mentioned here for several obvious, reasons and we peeled 610 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: it out of. There and it was the first time 611 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: THAT i found out the truck THAT i had at the, 612 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: time ninety four gmcc, era could actually lay rubber in 613 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: a parking. Lot and we got out of. There and 614 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: that was about as close to being arrested AS i 615 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: ever wanted to. Be and so that was our last 616 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: trip aboard the ballast night train from Forts, And georgia To, Columbus. 617 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: Georgia it sounds like A Tina turner. Song almost all, 618 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: Right we're going to take a quick break here when 619 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: we come. Back owen's got a really good question. Here 620 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: it's one of those old Fashioned if we took this 621 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: team out of THE, sec who would we replace them? 622 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: With AND i got some candidates here THAT i think 623 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,239 Speaker 1: we could throw in The Southeastern conference tomorrow and not 624 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: only would the conference go on not skip a, BEAT 625 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: i think it actually may even improve. IT i, say, 626 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: so stay with, us we'll be right, back and we're. 627 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: Back and, hey since you sat through that ad, break 628 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: why DON'T i just take seven or eight more seconds 629 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: and remind you five star. Reviews please give them to. 630 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: Us we love, Them they're worth their. Weighting Gold management loves. 631 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: Them it makes us look, great it gives us more. 632 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: Leeway that's probably about ten, seconds but point being five star. 633 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: Reviews he's and thank. You AS i said before that ad, 634 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: Break owen, asks If missouri left THE sec, tomorrow who 635 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: would replace? Them, now let me dress this is a. 636 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: Question he's the one who thought Of, missouri not. Me 637 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: so if you want to Criticize, owen send it to his, 638 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: email Which i'm not going to give you. Here, rhetorical 639 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: So owen asked about. It pretend we have a. Gap 640 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: let's not even single Out. Missouri we just have thirteen. 641 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: Teams someone's floated off into, space and we got to 642 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: fill this spot with a fourteenth. Team. Clemson that's Who 643 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: i'd go after and make no bones about, it and 644 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: you would get all this. Back That's, oh you can't Take. 645 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: Clemson they're a founding member of THE. Acc, YEAH i. 646 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: Can do you remember maybe you. Don't do you remember 647 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: last time that this, conference expect free for, all was upon? 648 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: Us and do you remember how quickly all kinds of 649 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: tradition and marriages between programs and conferences just totally flew 650 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: out the. Window and it seemed like every morning you 651 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: woke up and every morning with a new, headline traditions 652 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: seemed to matter, less and less as opposed to what 653 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: the value of a new conference affiliation would bring. You 654 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: there's a price every, team every program's got a. Price 655 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,719 Speaker 1: clemson's no. Different So i'd go After. Clemson they would 656 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: greatly bolster the competition levels in THE Sec, east both 657 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: short and long. Term they. Fit they have the identity 658 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: and the trademarks of AN sec, program THE dna of 659 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: AN sec. Program Death valley fits right in With athens 660 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: And knoxville And gainesville and the. Like and if that didn't, 661 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: Work i'd go To Virginia tech. Reasons and if that didn't, 662 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: Work i'd go a little bit different, route And i'd 663 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: go To Central. Florida as much again as you folks 664 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: down In orlando and around the, country people who have 665 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: just taken up The knight's cause seem to think THAT 666 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: i hate you not at. All watch pretty much every 667 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: game you. PLAY i just don't appreciate the concept that 668 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: you are on equal footing with major power five teams 669 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: come playoff selection, time and this is not the time 670 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: for that. Conversation i've already made my thoughts, known and 671 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: you've made your counterpoints. Known, however let's make it all 672 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: irrelevant and let me take you and put you in THE. 673 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: SEC i would get further down Into. FLORIDA i would 674 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: get into The orlando And South florida media, markets which 675 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: in some Ways i'm, in but in another Way i'm 676 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,760 Speaker 1: not really in. Yet And i've always Viewed Central florida 677 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,399 Speaker 1: as a, program And university kind of has a lot 678 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 1: to do with. This with exdream, UPSIDE i don't think 679 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: their ceiling has even been. BROACHED i don't think that 680 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: they've even come close hitting their. Ceiling then imagine what 681 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 1: happens IF i PUMP sec television money and conference money 682 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: into the equation down. There Central florida could be a. 683 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: Monster Central florida could be the Next Generations Florida. State 684 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: you don't know What i'm talking, about and you're twenty 685 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 1: five years. Old go ask your, dad if he's a 686 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,399 Speaker 1: lifelong college football, fan What Florida state was like when 687 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: he was a. Kid ask your grandpa What Florida state 688 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: was when he was a. Kid he probably would, say 689 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: who never never had of, him but then all of 690 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: a sudden you'd heard of. Him, Well Central florida could 691 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: be the Next Generations Florida. State next, UP i go 692 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 1: to A big twelve, school AND i Think Matt campbell 693 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: gets a lot more credit than he. Deserves That's Iowa 694 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: state's head. Coach he had a nine win season With 695 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: Hakeem butler And David, montgomery but the next year he 696 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: was out coached in Several Big twelve games and the 697 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: bowl game Against Notre. DAME i think he's a fine, 698 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: coach but not winning The Big twelve anytime. Soon what 699 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: are your? Thoughts all? Right let me unpack. This so, 700 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: first you mentioned, that, yeah he had nine, wins but 701 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: he Had butler And. Montgomery, well no coach ever has 702 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 1: a good season without good. Players, now on the other 703 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 1: side of that, coin plenty of coaches have had bad 704 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: seasons despite having good. Players so let's think about that 705 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 1: for a. SECOND i don't criticize a guy for doing 706 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 1: good with good. Players that's what good coaches are supposed to. 707 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: Do the second, part and this is a little bit 708 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: deeper and more, nuanced BUT i hear this all the. 709 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: Time guys got out. Coached, oh this guy got out. 710 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: Coached how do people know when someone gets out? Coached 711 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 1: what does it really? Mean? Like what do we mean? 712 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: Here do we mean that the other teams were more prepared. 713 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: Consistently did you get out? Schemed did you forget football 714 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: in the off, season but before the season that you 715 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: got out coached? Allegedly how do people spot? That and 716 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: let me go down the. List by the, WAY i 717 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 1: went to the trouble of looking this, up which is 718 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 1: not a lot of. Trouble Iowa state last year they 719 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: lost To iowa a Ranked iowa, Team top Twenty iowa, 720 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 1: team eighteen to. Seventeen they lost At baylor twenty three 721 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 1: to twenty. One That baylor team ended up playing for 722 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: a conference championship game and having a head coach taken 723 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: by THE. Nfl they lost To Oklahoma state thirty four 724 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: to twenty. Seven nothing to shake your head. At they 725 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 1: had a, eh what you would call a bad loss 726 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 1: At Kansas state to end the. Year they lost by, 727 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 1: ten but competitive in every one of these. Games most 728 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: of these, rosters aside From Kansas, state are better at 729 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: that point last year Than Iowa state's. Is and then they. 730 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 1: Lost they got thoroughly. OUTPLAYED i will agree with you 731 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,280 Speaker 1: By Notre. Dame Notre dame in the bowl. Game the point, 732 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: is think about the history of college. Football Notre dame 733 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: should Outplay Iowa. State ten times out of ten they. 734 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: Should and so you wrap this up by, saying, WELL 735 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,280 Speaker 1: i don't think they're gonna win The Big twelve anytime. 736 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 1: Soon who is saying anything to the. Contrary let's Take 737 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: Iowa state fans out of the. Equation they're passionate about their. 738 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: Program i'm high On Iowa. STATE i Love Iowa. State 739 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 1: i'm high On Matt. CAMPBELL i haven't predicted them to 740 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 1: win The Big twelve anytime. SOON i haven't seen anybody out, 741 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: there reputable or, otherwise to be honest with, you predicting 742 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 1: them to win The Big. Twelve what they're saying Is 743 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 1: Matt campbell in that program are playing above their skis 744 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: right now as it relates to what history would. Say 745 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 1: the best indicator of that is the fact that a 746 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 1: lot of people the question right here and the person 747 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,720 Speaker 1: who asked the question here included a lot of people 748 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 1: right now are actually mildly Criticizing Iowa state for going 749 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: seven and six seven and. Six and we looked this 750 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: up the other. DAY i think the last time Before 751 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: campbell got there that they had an eight win season or, 752 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 1: BETTER i think it was like two, thousand two thousand and, 753 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: one sometime like. That this is not normal, there and 754 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 1: all of a sudden he's elevated the profile of the 755 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: program to where seven wins that's. It, Yeah, yes seven, 756 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 1: wins that's. It they were competitive in every game Except Notre. 757 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: Dame that's not a bad season At Iowa. State next 758 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: up Is. Scott scott asks how DO fcs programs Like 759 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 1: South Dakota state break through the glass ceiling and become 760 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,439 Speaker 1: a national contender in? Football, Well, scott, Now i'll ADMIT 761 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 1: i had to look this, up But i'd say they already. 762 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 1: Are they've been to THE fcs playoffs seven years in a, 763 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 1: row they've been to the finals back to back. Years 764 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: just because they haven't won a national championship doesn't mean 765 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: they're not a national. Contender how about this Stat by the, 766 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 1: way since nineteen seventy, Two South Dakota state has had 767 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 1: four head coaches that. Consistency next, Up corbin asks who 768 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 1: Will Ohio state have in the backfield this year and 769 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,879 Speaker 1: how much does the loss OF. Jk dobbins hurt their ground? Game, 770 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 1: well it does not help, it you know a lot of, 771 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,760 Speaker 1: times and this is independent Of Ohio, state just a general. 772 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: OBSERVATION a lot of. Times what sort of aggravates me 773 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 1: and just sort of entertains me about college football fandom 774 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 1: is fans will tout a player to the ends of 775 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,399 Speaker 1: the earth when they're on their, roster but as soon 776 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 1: as they, leave they will also tout how there won't 777 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 1: be a drop off and how we will seamlessly replace this. Guy, 778 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: NOW i have not necessarily Hurt Ohio state fans say 779 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: that in mass just a general observation. THERE i ran THE. 780 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 1: Jk dobbins fan CLUB Jk, DOBBINS i could not have 781 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:06,720 Speaker 1: thought any higher of. Him incredible versatile. Talent Trey sermon 782 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 1: was a huge pickup for. Them Tray, sermon for those, 783 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 1: unfamiliar transferred From. Oklahoma it feels like four years, ago 784 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 1: but it actually happened this. Offseason so he gives you 785 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: a veteran presence behind a veteran offensive line Master. Tigue 786 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: really kind of the reason That sermon's pickup was so 787 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: big because you Lost tigue to an achilles' injury in the, 788 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 1: spring and he's going to play this. Year to what 789 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 1: level will he play remains to be. Seen but having 790 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 1: fields at, quarterback having those weapons everywhere, else and just 791 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 1: overall having the caliber program they. Have if you had question, 792 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 1: MARKS i guess you would say running back being a 793 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,800 Speaker 1: question mark. THERE i tend to think they'll be. Fine. 794 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,839 Speaker 1: SERMON i think will pleasantly surprise some people with how 795 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 1: versatile he. IS i don't necessarily know that he's as 796 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,760 Speaker 1: explosive As dobbins, was but he's a guy that fully 797 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: capable of being a feature back for you and being 798 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 1: a three down back for. You he could do everything 799 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: out of the backfield you need him to. Do, Also 800 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: corbyn asked another, question what Does tennessee's offense look like this? 801 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 1: Year Is mauer the clear starter at? Quarterback and how 802 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 1: will the balls replace the production Of jennings And callaway at. 803 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 1: Receiver let me get into camp a little bit to 804 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,319 Speaker 1: answer the wide receiver, Question but as for, quarterback absolutely 805 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 1: not On. Maer in, FACT i wouldn't lean towards him 806 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: as the starter right. Now i'd lean Towards Jarrett garantano 807 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 1: again as the starter with maybe the potential for there 808 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: to be one or on the other side of the, 809 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: coin several guys taking meaningful reps. There this, Year you've 810 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 1: Got maer and J. T. Sprout both of those guys 811 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: started games last. Year and Then Harrison bailey's the guy 812 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 1: that Most tennessee fans think of as having the highest, 813 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 1: ceiling but he's a true freshman without. Spring Caysom hill's almost, 814 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 1: forgotten but he's a guy on the roster that talked 815 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 1: to some people At. Tennessee they think he may be 816 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 1: the guy that would get back up reps and get 817 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 1: looked at heavily right now if they had to play 818 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: a game, today just because of the experience factor that 819 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 1: he has. Too But i'll tell you that two of 820 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: the most important names in THE Sec east this, Year 821 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 1: Ty chandler And Eric, gray those are the one to 822 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 1: two in any combination of running backs At. Tennessee that's 823 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 1: the Style Jeremy pruit is looking to. Play he knows 824 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: he doesn't Have Joe burrow in any of these quarterbacks right. 825 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 1: Now he doesn't Have Joe burrow or Tuatongua. Iloa they 826 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 1: know how they have to play up. There they think 827 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 1: they finally have the offensive line to play the way 828 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,840 Speaker 1: they want to. Play AND i would second that. Notion 829 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: But Ty, Chandler Eric, gray those are two guys that 830 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 1: have to get it done at tailback this, year not 831 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: just one of. Them they got to have both of. 832 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 1: Them aj is next. Up, recently during an interview Between 833 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: Bud elliott And Roddy, jones they discussed or questioned whether 834 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,800 Speaker 1: more lower End power five schools Like vanderbilt Or Oregon 835 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,399 Speaker 1: state should consider going flex bone triple option Like Paul 836 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 1: johnson did At Georgia. Tech do you believe this would 837 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,720 Speaker 1: be a good option for schools that may find themselves 838 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,720 Speaker 1: at the bottom of Other power five conference standing almost 839 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,800 Speaker 1: on a yearly. Basis short answer is, YES i fully 840 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 1: agree with. That i'd be on board with. It what 841 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 1: aggravated me About Georgia tech IS i didn't think they 842 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 1: fit that. Description Georgia tech is not a program THAT 843 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 1: i ever thought needed to go that route they. DID 844 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 1: i guess my best case study is Watching Jeff. Collins 845 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 1: we're now in a Post Paul johnson era At Georgia. 846 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 1: Tech you watch What Jeff collins. DOES i fully Believe 847 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 1: i'd buy a lot of stock right now In Georgia tech. 848 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 1: FOOTBALL i Think Jeff collins is going to help the 849 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,800 Speaker 1: nation to ultimately realize What Georgia tech has always been capable, 850 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,720 Speaker 1: of just because they haven't done it in this life 851 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,280 Speaker 1: doesn't mean they're not capable of, it And Jeff, COLLINS 852 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 1: i think will show that and they don't have to 853 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 1: be running the triple option to do. It, now you 854 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 1: Mentioned vanderbilt perfect, Candidate Oregon state perfect. CANDIDATE i don't 855 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 1: think the fans And Corp vallis are necessarily on board with, 856 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,360 Speaker 1: that but perfect candidate. There, Yeah AND i listened to 857 00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: the interview That bud did With Roddy. Jones it was 858 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: a really good. Conversation if you haven't seen, that it 859 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 1: is part of Our Social distance series on the twenty 860 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: four to Seven sports YouTube, channel available right. Now wesley 861 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,839 Speaker 1: is next. Up wesley, SAYS i recalled that you said 862 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,319 Speaker 1: in one of your previous podcasts that conference expansion is 863 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 1: on the way in The Power. Five if, so do 864 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 1: you Think Appalachian State Appalachian, State, sorry, oh that doesn't 865 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 1: score me any points up. There do you Think Appalachian 866 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 1: state deserves to be one of those? Teams i'm not 867 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,640 Speaker 1: suggesting this because of our dominance in The Sun, belt 868 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,239 Speaker 1: but we've played well Against power five competition in the, 869 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 1: past including last season when we Beat North carolina And 870 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,799 Speaker 1: South carolina on the road and the year before when 871 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 1: we took a top Ten Penn state team to overtime 872 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 1: also on the. Road keep up the solid work From. Wesley, 873 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:51,880 Speaker 1: wesley here is the line in the sand that is, 874 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 1: unfortunate and it's not always seen by. Fans if quality 875 00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 1: of team and just the overall quality of the, program 876 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 1: what was the premier metric in this, conversation you would 877 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 1: have a great point and the answer would be. Yes, 878 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:10,839 Speaker 1: unfortunately these decisions are often made understandably, so but it's 879 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 1: still unfortunate with brand value in. Mind and here's the sad. 880 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 1: Reality me being a perennial eight and four team closer 881 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 1: to a MAJOR tv market may squash your annual ten 882 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 1: and two profile in, Boone North. Carolina, Now i'm not 883 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,400 Speaker 1: saying that sarcastically at. All IF i got to make the, 884 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 1: decisions they'd be made a lot more in the thread 885 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 1: that you just. Mentioned BUT i don't get to make the, 886 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 1: decisions and the ones who do don't necessarily care about 887 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,799 Speaker 1: who you've beaten on the. Road they do care about 888 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,880 Speaker 1: how many eyeballs you may. Bring you, know what's the 889 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,880 Speaker 1: value proposition? Here you know the you know the fire, Drill, 890 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,399 Speaker 1: steven next, UP i was having a conversation the other 891 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 1: day with one of my employees about The Big. Twelve 892 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 1: we discussed if it ever blew, up Is texas uniquely 893 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 1: positioned with The Longhorn network and a weaker but still 894 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 1: national brand to be an INDEPENDENT i think it could 895 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,760 Speaker 1: help or hinder their attempts to rise back to the 896 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:13,280 Speaker 1: heights of yester. Year, Steven i'm not sure That texas 897 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:18,120 Speaker 1: being independent would impact their program's trajectory. OVERALL i, mean 898 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,800 Speaker 1: they're going to do the same things in a conference 899 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 1: that they would do. INDEPENDENT i mean that has to 900 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,719 Speaker 1: do with having the proper head, coach having recruiting in, 901 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 1: order having your ducks in a row behind the, scenes 902 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 1: having the infrastructure in, place all of those. Things you're 903 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 1: going to win in The big twelve or out of 904 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,920 Speaker 1: The Big twelve if you're doing that. Right, however independent 905 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 1: of all, that if they were to ironic that we 906 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 1: just used that, word because if they were to go, 907 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,279 Speaker 1: INDEPENDENT i think their tailor made for. It not that 908 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,839 Speaker 1: this is coming or anyone expects, it but hypothetical land, Here, 909 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 1: yes think about what they have they. Have, obviously they've 910 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 1: already shown the ability to secure A tv, deal AND 911 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 1: i think they could get a bigger one done if 912 00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,160 Speaker 1: they need to they have. Do or let's ask that's the. 913 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,719 Speaker 1: Question do they have enough? Sway do they have enough 914 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 1: influence to where they would garner a similar seat at 915 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 1: the college football playoff table for example That Notre dame 916 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,760 Speaker 1: has right Now jax warbicks vote in the college football 917 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,239 Speaker 1: playoff process and matters of the. Sort it matters the 918 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 1: same as an entire conference like THE acc or THE 919 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,800 Speaker 1: sec right. Now Does texas possess? THAT i would, argue 920 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,640 Speaker 1: yes they. Do they could get that. Done do they 921 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 1: need to be subsidized by a conference right? Now are 922 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 1: they surviving off of affiliation with the? Conference? No they 923 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,879 Speaker 1: could be independent. Tomorrow they'd be just. Fine does their 924 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:41,400 Speaker 1: conference benefit, them you, know from, participation more than the 925 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 1: conference benefits from having them in their? Conference in other, 926 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:46,840 Speaker 1: words Does texas need The Big twelve more than The 927 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,279 Speaker 1: Big twelve Needs? TEXAS i don't think. SO i think 928 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 1: The Big twelve benefits a whole lot more from Having 929 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,719 Speaker 1: texas than vice. Versa and here's another fun thing to think. 930 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,880 Speaker 1: About would them having autonomy over their schedule be a 931 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,239 Speaker 1: plus or? MINUS i think it'd be a, huge huge. 932 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 1: Plus no disrespect To. Kansas but IF i were, replaced 933 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,359 Speaker 1: IF i were to Replace texas going on The road 934 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 1: To kansas With texas going on The road To, tennessee, 935 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,279 Speaker 1: YEAH i think it'd be a big, deal AND i 936 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 1: Think texas could get that. Done. NOW i don't think that's, 937 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,279 Speaker 1: happening but it is a fun thing to think. About, Yeah, 938 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,719 Speaker 1: texas if if you had to pick someone who could 939 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,759 Speaker 1: survive tomorrow going, Independent texas had be. One at the 940 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,360 Speaker 1: forefront of that. Conversation all let's move on. HERE i 941 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 1: wanted to, note by the, way there were a lot 942 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 1: of Questions jeff And duke And tom in, PARTICULAR i 943 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,000 Speaker 1: had you guys written. Down you had a lot of 944 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 1: procedural type questions about how the season's going to play, 945 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:40,120 Speaker 1: out related to, scheduling related TO, Covid and my answer 946 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 1: to all those questions was going to be in some 947 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,720 Speaker 1: form or FASHION i don't. Know and so let's save 948 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 1: those for when we get some more definitive. Answers at 949 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 1: least have a structure of what the season is going 950 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 1: to look. Like who's going to play, who, where et. 951 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,520 Speaker 1: Cetera rob is next. Up one of the greatest things 952 00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,719 Speaker 1: about an entire season is a play or two that 953 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,759 Speaker 1: just defies. LOGIC i can remember WHERE i was WHEN 954 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,399 Speaker 1: i Saw LSU's bluegrass, miracle Or Jacob pastor's fourth down 955 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,760 Speaker 1: runs Against, florida or The auburn kick. Six what would 956 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 1: be some of your greatest miracle? Plays, ROB i think 957 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,000 Speaker 1: you got to start with the kick six and the past. 958 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,279 Speaker 1: GENERATION i think that thing's going to go unmatched for 959 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 1: eternity if you consider just the improbability of the moment 960 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:27,600 Speaker 1: and the, play but also consider the historical. Ramifications it 961 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 1: was The Iron, bowl it was a massive, rivalry and 962 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,919 Speaker 1: those teams weren't seven and five. Either bama had won 963 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 1: the national championship two years before, that they had won 964 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 1: the national championship the year before. That they were playing 965 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,719 Speaker 1: to go to THE sec title game and try to 966 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:47,000 Speaker 1: win a third straight national. Championship not only Does auburn 967 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 1: cost them That auburn goes on to win THE sec, 968 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,920 Speaker 1: Title auburn almost won the national. Championship that was In 969 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,759 Speaker 1: malson's first. Year SO i goodness. GRACIOUS i, mean you 970 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,839 Speaker 1: got a guy Like Vern lunquiz who's called games Since 971 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,400 Speaker 1: moses was a small, kid and he has been on 972 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,399 Speaker 1: record several times as, saying, yeah that's about as good 973 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 1: AS i ever. Saw that's my favorite, Moment so that 974 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 1: speaks volumes to. Me But i'll also tell you a 975 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 1: couple other. Ones Michigan state returning that that fumbled punt 976 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,560 Speaker 1: attempt for a game, win he touchdown no time left 977 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,279 Speaker 1: in twenty, FIFTEEN i remember WHERE i. Was you just 978 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 1: said you remember where you were in those. MOMENTS i 979 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,920 Speaker 1: remember WHERE i. WAS i was on the road every 980 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,960 Speaker 1: week in those years at a college football game. SOMEWHERE 981 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,080 Speaker 1: i don't talk about that as if it were a. 982 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:33,799 Speaker 1: CHORE i love doing. It but that was a WEEK 983 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,279 Speaker 1: i was, off AND i was in my apartment In, 984 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,879 Speaker 1: columbus AND i was walking from kitchen to living. Room 985 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,800 Speaker 1: the moment was Just michigan needed to get off a 986 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,040 Speaker 1: punt and they were going to win the. Game So 987 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,200 Speaker 1: i'm just assuming the game's. Over and they fumbled that 988 00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,400 Speaker 1: punt And Michigan state ran it, back AND i stood 989 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,399 Speaker 1: still in, disbelief staring at MY tv for so long 990 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,560 Speaker 1: that you, know if you stand on carpet for a 991 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 1: long time and then you, move you can see the 992 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,440 Speaker 1: footprints in the. Carpet my footprints were in the carpet 993 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,880 Speaker 1: by the time. Moved that's how ENHANCED i was on this. 994 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,879 Speaker 1: MOMENT i had chill. Bumps, ACTUALLY i remember vividly looking 995 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,440 Speaker 1: at my. Arm my mouth was hanging open like some 996 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 1: of Those michigan fans they showed ON. Tv shame on 997 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:12,880 Speaker 1: them for, that by the. Way it's entertaining, though but 998 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,440 Speaker 1: that was. Crazy and another, one you, KNOW i was 999 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,400 Speaker 1: on the field for The Josh Dobbs Hail mary To 1000 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,799 Speaker 1: Juan jennings When tennessee Beat georgia In. Athens you had 1001 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,360 Speaker 1: two lead changes in the final twenty some odds seconds 1002 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,920 Speaker 1: of that, game and a celebration penalty Pushes tennessee out near. 1003 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,680 Speaker 1: Midfield they get a chance to throw one too the end, 1004 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,600 Speaker 1: zone so that one was crazy. Too ended up walking 1005 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,880 Speaker 1: Into tennessee's locker room and they let me in there 1006 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 1: BECAUSE i had an orange polo on that was the 1007 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,000 Speaker 1: same color As tennessee's. Orange so it was a fun. 1008 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,960 Speaker 1: Day i've told that story on the podcast. Before next 1009 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,239 Speaker 1: up Is, Kobe which School texas Or TEXAS a AND 1010 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,880 Speaker 1: m would you rather coach at if they both had openings? 1011 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 1: Today which would you? Accept why which is the better? 1012 00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,840 Speaker 1: Job my answer here Is TEXAS a AND. M but 1013 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,920 Speaker 1: it's strictly personal, preference because If texas came to me, 1014 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,160 Speaker 1: Tomorrow i'd have no problem taking that one in a heart. 1015 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,520 Speaker 1: Beat in, Fact i'd have no problem answering this by 1016 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:06,400 Speaker 1: saying my old go to of you take your first, 1017 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 1: choice And i'll take whatever's left. Over but the reason 1018 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,839 Speaker 1: my personal preference would Be TEXAS a AND m is 1019 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,359 Speaker 1: Just i'd be a part of THE sec, culture WHICH 1020 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,319 Speaker 1: i admit THAT i grew up, in SO i have 1021 00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 1: a favoritism towards that. Culture BUT i would relish competing 1022 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,799 Speaker 1: against the best In, america AND i would have That 1023 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:26,800 Speaker 1: IF i were At, TEXAS i would compete Against Lincoln. 1024 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,520 Speaker 1: Riley but If i'm At TEXAS a AND, M i'm 1025 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:34,359 Speaker 1: competing AGAINST lsu every, Year i'm Against alabama every. Year 1026 00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 1: i'm going up against the best of the. Best AND 1027 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,320 Speaker 1: i want to do that BECAUSE i want to compete 1028 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,759 Speaker 1: against the. BEST i want that pressure. Cooker and it's 1029 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 1: not for. Everyone And i'm not saying there's not pressure At. 1030 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,560 Speaker 1: Texas certainly there, is but there's no pressure like pressure 1031 00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 1: in THE. Sec when you have everything you need to, 1032 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,200 Speaker 1: win that's the plus. Minus they give you everything that 1033 00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,160 Speaker 1: you need to win AT a AND. M, well then 1034 00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:58,759 Speaker 1: you got to. WIN i have no problem with. That 1035 00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,719 Speaker 1: that's a fair trade. Off it's un when they don't 1036 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:02,319 Speaker 1: give you everything you need to win but still want 1037 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,359 Speaker 1: you to. Win but you got everything you need. There 1038 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,440 Speaker 1: you got the, competition you got that pressure, cooker you 1039 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:12,480 Speaker 1: have the, facilities you have an immaculate, stadium unbelievable atmosphere. 1040 00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,000 Speaker 1: There so you got everything that you. Need SO i 1041 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,359 Speaker 1: would personally love to take the head coaching job At 1042 00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,920 Speaker 1: TEXAS a AND. M and, hey if it's, taken you 1043 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:22,840 Speaker 1: give Me. Texas i'm not going to have that bigger 1044 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 1: problem with that. Either all, right good, stuff a lot 1045 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,040 Speaker 1: of good. 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