1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Lifetime, the official athletic country Club of the Minnesota Vikings, 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: has something for every member of your family. 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 2: Get your family going today at Lifetime, dot Life Forward, 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 2: Slash Kids. 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 3: Really excited to add those guys. You know, they bring 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 3: a lot of talent to our rooms, versatility, a lot 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 3: of production, and again we always talk about fit in 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 3: our culture and what we're trying to build, and those 9 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 3: guys all do. 10 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: Welcome into the third and final NFL Draft edition of 11 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings Podcast. I'm Tatum Everett. We got Pete 12 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: Bursage in studio this time around. 13 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 4: Thanks you for nice to be nice to be here. 14 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: And then Jay is here. Hello. Jay. 15 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: We've been camping out watching the whole day unfold, little 16 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: wheeling and dealing from the GM himself, moving some trades 17 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: up and down, and so you know, we started this 18 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: draft out five picks and with six guys. 19 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: That's a pretty tape a way of going. 20 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 3: You we needed bodies, and yeah, it's we're used to that. 21 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 3: I'm getting used to picking at the end of rounds, right, Yeah, 22 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Clothing, But yeah, you gain, 23 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 3: you gain a couple and you trade them back. So 24 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 3: but that at the end of the day, you know, 25 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 3: you hope to get you know, one or two starters 26 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 3: out of this group maybe, So there's that potential and 27 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 3: it's just going to be interesting now to see how 28 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 3: everybody fits well. 29 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: There's an even selection across the board which I find 30 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: pretty interesting. Starting out the day obviously with the wide 31 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: receiver Jordan Madison, then you go corner with Makai Blackman, 32 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: and then today on the third and final day, it 33 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: was a fourth rounder safety Jay Ward out of LSU, 34 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: and then they drafted his teammate Chequelon Roy in the 35 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: fifth round, another fifth round selection with quarterback Chaaron Hall, 36 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: and at the end of the day with the running 37 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: back Dwayne McBride out of U A B in the 38 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: seventh round. Was there a favorite of yours out of 39 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: today's picks at all? 40 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 3: I haven't. I haven't had a chance to see Hall 41 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 3: or McBride on film on film yet, but getting a 42 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 3: chance to sit down and watch what Jay Ward can do. 43 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 3: He's kind of a he's kind of an old school 44 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 3: defensive back. I think if he if the draft, if 45 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 3: it would have been fifteen years ago, ten years ago, 46 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 3: I think he would have gone a lot higher. He 47 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 3: plays very very well in the paint. He hits people, 48 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 3: he hustles, he's a leader, you know, I just you understand, 49 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 3: he's just not he doesn't move and bend and all 50 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 3: those things well enough. I think to play in the 51 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 3: slot for sure, because he did play corner, he did 52 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 3: play nickel, and he did play safety at LSU. As 53 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 3: a position player, He's most likely going to fit in 54 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 3: at safety at some point. Or he could beef him 55 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 3: up and even have him be a you know, be 56 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 3: a small linebacker. I mean, he's that he's that good 57 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 3: with with taking on blocks, getting around blocks, hitting people, 58 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 3: reading the run, those kinds of things. Very exciting. 59 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 4: But he he should be. 60 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 3: He's gonna. I expect him to be an absolute special 61 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 3: teams demon. 62 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,839 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, you got to have those guys. Yeah, 63 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: for sure, you gotta have those guys. 64 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 3: Oh way, yeah, man, that was the thing. He just 65 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 3: did the film room. I did all the film room stuff, 66 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 3: and you have all the plays together and it's just 67 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 3: hit after hit after hit after hits. So it's it's 68 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 3: fun to watch. It's fun to watch Ward play. 69 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: Daniels is smiling from the third floor. 70 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the thing, Like, you know, Pete was saying, like, 71 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 4: looking at the film with that guy, I mean, he 72 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 4: doesn't have a problem sticking his nose in there. He 73 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 4: likes to hit people, and so it will be nice 74 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 4: to have somebody like that, especially if you're talking you know, 75 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 4: like even on the evaluations, they're saying special teams. 76 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 3: For that guy. 77 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 4: That's the kind of person you want, is somebody willing 78 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 4: to boogie down the field and just you know, throw. 79 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 3: It, throw their weight around, and I don't care about 80 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 3: his forty time. He's gonna run as hard as he 81 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 3: can all the time. And that's I guess that's the 82 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 3: part of it that that gets lost sometimes is well, 83 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: this guy's are fourth, you know, four to four, this 84 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 3: guy's a four to five. It's like, well, the four 85 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 3: to four guy runs at eighty percent, and so the 86 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 3: four or five guys gonna outrun him on film all 87 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 3: day long because he you know, he just said so 88 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 3: the only that's the only question mark, and it's that's 89 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 3: how the draft is. Right. You have a guy like 90 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 3: Ward who you love everything you see about him on film, right, 91 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,839 Speaker 3: and you just wished him to be a little bit 92 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 3: more you know, nimble and quicker and those kinds of things. 93 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 3: But he'll hit you, he'll run, he's smart, he gets 94 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 3: on his teammates, he's intense, the whole thing. But you know, 95 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 3: he unfortunately had to wait a while to get picked. 96 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 2: He did. 97 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: I mean, Brian Flores was definitely in the ear of 98 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: Quacy and the front office staff trying to figure out 99 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: what prospects would fit well with what he wants to do. 100 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: I think when you look at the two defensive backs, 101 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: I mean the corner and they're calling Jay Ward a 102 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: defensive back, one thing that sticks out to me is 103 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: that they can play anywhere, and then he's probably going 104 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: to move them around and figure out where he's going 105 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: to best be able to plug them in, depending on 106 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 1: their skill set, depending on what they already have on 107 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:57,799 Speaker 1: the roster. 108 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:02,679 Speaker 3: I do think that and the selection of Jaquelin Roy 109 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 3: really I think tips a cap to what we're going 110 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 3: to do defensively. Okay, I really do, because he's not 111 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 3: when you watch him on film. Where he does where 112 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 3: he excels and when he plays well is when he's 113 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 3: a zero right over the center. He does that technique 114 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 3: and plays that position very very well. Big guy, strong. 115 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 3: You know, he has to work on the footwork, and 116 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 3: pad level and all those kinds of things. But he hustles, 117 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 3: you know, for a big guy, he really runs the football. 118 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 3: But if we if you take a look at what 119 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 3: Miami did, because you know, because you look at if 120 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 3: you look at Flores, he was never a defensive coordinator, right, 121 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 3: He was a signal caller with the Patriots, and then 122 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 3: goes the head coach brings in another guy from the 123 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 3: Patriots to be his defensive coordinator. I forget his name 124 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 3: off the top of my head, so you assume that's 125 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 3: his defense and but you don't know because he's he's 126 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 3: never really he's never been the guy. But with you 127 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 3: know Jacquelin Roy in what he does, well, you know, 128 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 3: if they put if they bring him in and let 129 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 3: him play like the bear front. When I say bear, 130 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 3: I don't mean three four like we were playing. It's 131 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 3: a five man front. But you have both guards in 132 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 3: the center covered and you just let Roy sit over 133 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 3: that center and beat that guy up. You know, he 134 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 3: plays counters real well. You know when he gets in 135 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 3: that square stance and he's kind of reading and then 136 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 3: playing the run, he does he does a really really 137 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 3: nice job. So if that's the position that they need 138 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 3: to fill or they need somebody four that zero knows 139 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 3: this kid's this kid's gonna contribute and be a good 140 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 3: player if you want him to be, you know, a 141 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 3: wide nose tackle playing in a four to three, then 142 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 3: I you know, I think he'll be okay. But I 143 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 3: really do think he's got a chance if we play 144 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 3: a lot of zero nos. 145 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 2: Well, he was the player. That's the fight. 146 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: He's treated up to get the only one they traded 147 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 1: up to get everyone else they were trading back and 148 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: trying to make value out of those picks. 149 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was after they had made that move to 150 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 4: move to the back end of the forth and then 151 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 4: all of a sudden they slid back up. I think 152 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 4: it was another what fifteen slots they want to pick 153 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 4: one forty one in order to get him. That just 154 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 4: kind of shows you, you know, one of the things 155 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 4: that have been talked about pre draft was the need 156 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 4: to try to get, you know, bolster that defensive line 157 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 4: at some point, and even just looking at some of 158 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 4: the highlights of that guy, you know, there's one thing 159 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 4: that's very evident. He's very strong up top and likes 160 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 4: to shed blocks and just feels like there were certain 161 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 4: things that he was doing kind of throwing his weight 162 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 4: around again as well. Again you're seeing only just the 163 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 4: big highlights. There's a deeper film dive that you know, 164 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 4: guys like Pete were doing. 165 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 3: Had a really good game against Tennessee. Yeah, I know that. 166 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 3: And again it's like it's almost situational with him and 167 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 3: how you know, how you see him play and when 168 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: he's in a B gap and then they run a 169 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 3: zone outside and you know then he might get the 170 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 3: muddle at the guard cross his face, but he'll work 171 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 3: to you know, get back and in the NFL, good 172 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 3: luck with that. But I'm telling you, when you have 173 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 3: him in the interior and you're and you're trying to 174 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 3: run a cutback type zone and those kinds of things, 175 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 3: he's phenomenal. And that's really good. He has a really strong, 176 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 3: real strong arm, you know, strong hands can control people 177 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 3: and push and when he's fresh and he's moving his 178 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 3: feet and that's I think the big thing. He's shown 179 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 3: a great swim move. Even the pressures he's gotten on 180 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 3: the quarterback have been you know, have been just a 181 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 3: swim move off you know, off the h snap you know, 182 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 3: kind of like a like a Kenny Clark not quite 183 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 3: as not quite as mobile as Kenny Clark, but just 184 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 3: a nice move and and so the kid has some 185 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 3: tools just a matter of he's a scheme fit guy, 186 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 3: which is what you would you would see in the 187 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 3: fifth round. That's why I'm assuming or fourth round. I 188 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 3: can't remember what I fifth round. That's why I'm assuming 189 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 3: that we're gonna be seeing some zero no's this year. 190 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 4: And that for me was one of the things going 191 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 4: into this draft I was concerned about with losing Tomlinson. 192 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 4: I've been talking about for the last how many weeks, 193 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 4: just saying you need to try to address it that way. 194 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 4: And I think it's kind of a nice nice to 195 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 4: see the skill set that they brought in with this guy. 196 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 3: And it's too bad we lost Tomlinson because he was 197 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 3: with the Giants. He was a That's what he did 198 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 3: a lot of He was best at when they would 199 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 3: reduce things down and he would play as a zero 200 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 3: right over the center. That's where he had most of 201 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 3: his productivity. I think he adjusted to the three to 202 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 3: four pretty well. But now you know, now he's gone, 203 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 3: but he was a he was a very valuable value. 204 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 3: I think he was a very valuable piece to that 205 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 3: defensive line. He was a big loss. 206 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's going to be an interesting position battle to 207 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: watch while we start hitting OTA's and mini camp and 208 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: trading camp to watch that unfold for sure. Uh, that's 209 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: the defensive side of things that obviously we said earlier 210 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: in the podcast that we ended things with a couple 211 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: of offensive picks. I know there was a lot of 212 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: murmurs from all around, a lot of rumors, what are 213 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: we going to do with the quarterback position? When are 214 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: we going to pick one? Are we going to pick one? 215 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: It happened in the fifth round BYU quarterback Jaren Hall. 216 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: This is someone who they met with at the combine 217 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: and it was his first interview of the combine was 218 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: with the Vikings, and if you listen to his press conference, 219 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: he had nothing but fantastic things to say about the organization. 220 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 2: They stayed in touch. 221 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: They were impressed with his maturity and obviously he knows 222 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: that he's kind of a bit of a work in 223 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: progress because he only really had those two seasons where 224 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 1: he was a starter. And he's has a baseball background 225 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,599 Speaker 1: as well, So he's a young guy who, you know, 226 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he has enough bad. 227 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 2: Habits that they need to fix, but they definitely need 228 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 2: to like mold him into what they want. 229 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: And who better to do it than Kevin O'Connell, all right, exactly. 230 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 3: And that's we've said it before, I believe, and we 231 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 3: talked about do you bring him in here as a 232 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 3: head coach to get that position right? And last year 233 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 3: when when O'Connell first showed up, he said, the most 234 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 3: important attribute for a quarterback for him is accuracy. So 235 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 3: this kid completed I think over sixty five percent of 236 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 3: his passes in college. I mean it was last year 237 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 3: he was the number was was up there. It was good, 238 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 3: So that would check that box. I'm looking forward to 239 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 3: watching him on film and seeing, you know, what he 240 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 3: did and and and what his strengths and stuff are 241 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 3: because it's but it's a lot of learning. It's a 242 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 3: step lee. I don't care if he started, you know, 243 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 3: four years at a at a SEC school. There's still 244 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 3: a ton ton to learn at this next level. And 245 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 3: he doesn't have to worry about getting on the field 246 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 3: next year, you know, minus injury or whatever. But he's 247 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 3: got some time to learn. 248 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 4: And during yeah, during his media availability too, he kind 249 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 4: of addressed that a little bit too, saying that, you know, 250 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 4: they said you're more of a running guy at times, 251 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 4: and he's he said, yeah, you know, that's just something 252 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 4: that he's comfortable with. At the same point, he knows 253 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 4: in the NFL he's going to have to kind of 254 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 4: address that as much as he can to be a 255 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 4: real pocket passer. 256 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 3: With the NFL. When it comes to the NFL, it's 257 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 3: why do you run? That's I think the key thing. 258 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 3: And with the best quarterbacks in the league, they scramble 259 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 3: to throw the ball. They scrambled, extend the play, throw 260 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 3: the ball deep, throw it to the tight end underneath. 261 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 3: You know, that's what they do. It's not it's not 262 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 3: just like just pull the thing down like Jalen Hurts. 263 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts did a really nice job as the season 264 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 3: went on to go from a you know, they were 265 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 3: running straight up type options and things where he was 266 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 3: a primary run player and he started getting hit. You 267 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 3: you know, you end up you're gonna get hurt. Yes, 268 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 3: the quarterbacks just can't take all those hits. So if 269 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 3: you're going to be mobile, you've got to be able 270 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 3: to burn a team deep. You got to beat him deep. 271 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 3: You got to hurt him if you let them. And 272 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 3: then what happens is the D line starts to You 273 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 3: don't rush Aaron Rodgers, at least back in the day. 274 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 3: But you don't rush Aaron Rodgers the same way you 275 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 3: do Kirk Cousins. When you rush Aaron Rodgers, guys are 276 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 3: more balanced, they're even. It makes your offensive line better, right, 277 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 3: And we're saying, oh, you know, the Packers' offensive line 278 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 3: is so great. It's like, yeah, well, when you go 279 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 3: into that game, the D linemen aren't just drawing stunts 280 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 3: up all day long like what our guys see. Because 281 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 3: they know Kirk will be in the pocket. They don't 282 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 3: have to worry about containing I don't have to worry 283 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 3: about him drifting out as much. And so that athleticism 284 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 3: can be a boon if you use it the right way. 285 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 4: And that's what ESPN, you know, the pre draft breakdown 286 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 4: says about him. It just says he flashes good anticipation 287 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 4: and ability to deliver the ball before the receiver breaks. 288 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 4: Also extends plays, making off platform throws, and is a 289 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 4: threat to scramble for first downs, but nothing else is 290 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 4: available downfield. So that's exactly kind of the kind of 291 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 4: stuff you're looking for. 292 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 3: That's exactly right. 293 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: That's what he was really excited to be able to 294 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: work with Kirk and even mentioned Nick Mullins by name 295 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: as two guys that he just wants to learn from 296 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: and get in there and get better. 297 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 2: And just the sheer attitude and the way that he spoke. 298 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 2: It's funny. 299 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: You know, I feel like quarterbacks have a certain swagger 300 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: about them, and he definitely you know, if I heard 301 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: him speak, I probably be like, Yeah, that dude's definitely 302 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 1: a quarterback. 303 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 3: That swagger that you refer to is what gets contagious 304 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 3: in the huddle and when when games get tight and things, 305 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 3: you know, big big spots and games, that's when that 306 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 3: has to kind of take over and call everybody down around. 307 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 3: And you heard the the Joe Montana bit where he's 308 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 3: in the super Bowl, when he mentioned about John Candy 309 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 3: being in the in the stands stuff like that, I mean, 310 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 3: where does that come from? Yeah, it's just one of 311 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 3: those things that you have or you don't. It's just 312 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 3: the least amount of panic. I mean, you want a 313 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 3: guy who's calm and collected and they're you know, throwing 314 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 3: that ball when it comes down to it the most, 315 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 3: and I think it was helpful last year when you 316 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 3: had those have to have it moments. You know, you 317 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 3: saw him being able to step up last year and 318 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 3: then really execute. 319 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 4: So for me, it's it's nice to have those kind 320 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 4: of guys. Yes, you want some swagger, you want the 321 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 4: guys to believe, but it's one of those things like 322 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 4: you just start throwing touchdowns, hitting first downs and getting them, 323 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 4: getting them the ball and getting them stats. They're gonna 324 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 4: love them all day long, doesn't matter how he gets 325 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 4: it there. 326 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 3: So I feel more comfortable with the backup that O'Connell 327 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 3: picks and chooses. Then, you know, the more comfortable with 328 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 3: this kid than I have with anybody we brought in 329 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 3: for or drafted for quite some time. 330 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: Sure you have to, I mean you have to think 331 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: that way because of just exactly who Kevin O'Connell is 332 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: and the ability to watch him take someone from the 333 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: very beginning the draft, when he first gets his hands 334 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: in and see how he can develop. See the button 335 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: in the oven, right Like, it's nice to have that 336 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: cooking there for a while. 337 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 2: And see what can come of it. 338 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: It kind of reminds me not of the packers, but 339 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: they've been doing that for so long, right, like they've 340 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: mean granted it really worked out for long. 341 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 3: States, but they got it write twice in a row. Yeah, 342 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 3: I mean, think about that. They've had the best, arguably 343 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 3: the best quarterback in the league since what ninety. 344 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 4: Three, thirty years, yes, thirty years. 345 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 3: So that's we'll see how Jordan Now, if Jordan Love 346 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 3: comes out and just lights it up and. 347 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 2: Then you're like, okay, they're on, well yeah, then. 348 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 3: You're going, okay, Well, that's that's what took. That was 349 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 3: a forty year lesson. Yeah, exactly. 350 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 4: And that was the thing, you know, that's the thing 351 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 4: prior prior to fire of getting traded from Atlanta, you know, 352 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 4: they were struggling with Makowski and some of these other guys. 353 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 4: But at the same point, they got it right twice 354 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 4: in a row. And going into the season, that'll be 355 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 4: the big giant question mark is can they you know, 356 00:15:59,320 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 4: hit the. 357 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: Three p And you know, nothing against Kellen Mond, but 358 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: it clearly wasn't going to be a fit for what 359 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: Kevin wanted to teach and develop, and that's why you 360 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: know they went the other way. They found Nick Mullens, 361 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: they brought him in and they are now getting to 362 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: put their stamp on their own guy who they're taking 363 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: in the draft the end of the day. 364 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 2: Picking up a running back. 365 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: It's Dwayne McBride out of UAB who, accordingly in zerline, 366 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: was a projected fourth round pick, so. 367 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 2: He dropped a little bit down. 368 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: But it was going to be like, it's a pretty 369 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: it was a pretty talented running back group for the 370 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: most part in this draft. 371 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 2: This guy led the FBS in yards per carry. 372 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: And then I had a friend of mine send me 373 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: this stat from PFF that he led the FBS with 374 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: twenty three rushes of twenty plus yards or more. 375 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty two. So he sounds quite an explosive guy. 376 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think big question for him is how 377 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 3: well does he run routes and how does he you know, 378 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 3: how well does he catch? I think this is an 379 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 3: offense where our running backs need to have that type 380 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 3: of that type versatility. You know, Dalvin Cook is obviously 381 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 3: the eighty percent guy. Seventy percent guy Madison is back, 382 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 3: so you have you know, you have, Yeah, you need 383 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 3: to fill it to make this team. As a running back, 384 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 3: you have to fill in a niche, right, you have 385 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 3: to fill in a specific uh style, and I think 386 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 3: we just don't. That's the only thing that we're really missing. 387 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 3: I think of the past running back. Yeah, just just 388 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:31,719 Speaker 3: the almost slash wide receiver guy that can that can 389 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 3: run like Antler. Yeah. 390 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: Ah, it's funny you say that though, because on his 391 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: draft profile it does mention he barely made any pass 392 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: catching place in his three seasons. They were it just 393 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: wasn't there in his game, and so it was probably 394 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: more of the scheme more than his abilities. And even 395 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: Quacey brought it up with me in mar one on 396 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: one just a minute ago that he said, you know, 397 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: I think that he's a better pass catching back than 398 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: people are giving him credit for because it wasn't in 399 00:17:58,960 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: what he was doing. 400 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 2: They probably are going to test it. 401 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. And by the way, we need a punt returner. 402 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, but doesn't know who was it? 403 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 3: Jalen Rager? 404 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: No, there was a draft pick, wasn't It was it 405 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: crud Who wasn't There was a someone in the draft 406 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 1: that we drafted had punt returns. 407 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 2: It wasn't McKay Blackman. 408 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 3: Have no idea. 409 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 2: I can't remember. 410 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 3: I'm just saying we need that's a spot where if 411 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 3: you can come out of Okay, well I'm saying, if 412 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 3: you can come out of training camp and bet the 413 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 3: punt returner, you made this team. I don't you know, 414 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 3: I don't care if you're Dwayne McBride or whoever. Right, yeah, 415 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 3: you're you're on this team. And then kickoff return. Yeah, 416 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 3: we got that pretty much figured out. Another running back 417 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 3: by the way, So punt returner is another is an 418 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 3: easy way on this team. 419 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 4: Well, the one thing one of the things that was 420 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 4: listed here for McBride as far as an attribute that 421 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 4: he's known for, is yards after the contact. And you 422 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 4: know you're always looking for that with a running back 423 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 4: who's dragging another two three four yards every single carry, 424 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 4: you know that's exactly what you're looking for. So I'm 425 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 4: all in space. 426 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, hard to tackle. 427 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 2: There you go, there you go. Yeah, you know it's 428 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 2: funny you mentioned the pund drinks. 429 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure the free agent Brandon Powell is going 430 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: to be putting up a fight for that as well. 431 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: The pickup who came from the Rams, someone that Kevin 432 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: O'Connell is got his eyes on, who's already seen him before. 433 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, and with the youth movement that we've had because 434 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 4: we've had kick return, punt return style duties and even 435 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 4: just special teams. I mean, we are very very young 436 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 4: in a lot of these these areas when there are 437 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 4: some different people that have had that experience. I think, 438 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 4: as Pete said, the quickest way to make a roster 439 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 4: is to solidify a position like that, and so I 440 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 4: think there's going to be a healthy competition to see 441 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 4: what's gonna you know, who's going to pan out and 442 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,239 Speaker 4: who's going to grab onto that. I think it's going 443 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 4: to be kind of fun to watch that in camp 444 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 4: coming up. 445 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: Well, as we're recording this, the seventh round of the 446 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: NFL Draft is slowly coming to a close. The Vikings 447 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: have already called it a day today. They're not making 448 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: any more picks or making any other moves besides contacting 449 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: unrestricted or undrafted free agents so that they canna add 450 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: some guys for the camp roster. 451 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 2: Excited to see what that's gonna look like. 452 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 3: And don't yeah, and you know, and don't I guess, 453 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 3: don't overlook that, you know, you, oh for sure, Robert Griffith, 454 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 3: John Randall. I mean, this this place has seen quite 455 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 3: a few of them. Adam feeling so those priority free agents. Yeah, 456 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 3: those are the guys you got to get on the 457 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 3: horn with them, and then it becomes a bidding war, 458 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 3: and if you're highly sought after, you can end up 459 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 3: making more than a late round pick. Yeah. 460 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 4: So, plus they're always kind of trying to judge to like, 461 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 4: you know, what are you hearing, who you're hearing from, 462 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 4: et cetera, et cetera. 463 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 3: You know, especially at. 464 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 4: The end of the round coming up here, and that's 465 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 4: where certain guys will get drafted and other guys get 466 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 4: left because they didn't feel like there was a huge 467 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 4: you know market initially for them. But you know, with 468 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 4: the draft still going on here in the seventh round, 469 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 4: it will be interesting to see who they ensign. 470 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 3: Here, believe it or not. Those are the guys that 471 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 3: need agents as much as you know they need agents 472 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 3: because the agents need to know which you know, Like 473 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 3: it's like saying, if you were a free agent running back, 474 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 3: this is not a place you want to go. 475 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 4: To, sure, just because of the competition the running rooms are. 476 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's already pretty crowded right if you're you know, 477 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 3: if you're a nose tackle or a dB. You know, 478 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 3: places where are a linebacker, places where this team needs bodies, 479 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 3: and yeah, that'd be a good spot. But so it's not. 480 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 3: It's they they're starting their career as free agents. Yeah, yeah, exactly. 481 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 4: And part of that too is you know they're also 482 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,479 Speaker 4: negotiating besides that, they're they're kind of looking at them 483 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 4: and saying, do you want the dollars or do you 484 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 4: want the opportunity? At times, you know, he's the opportunity cost. 485 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 4: They're trying to figure out, you might get less money here, 486 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 4: but you're going to have a better opportunity to earn 487 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 4: a roster spot. 488 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 3: They're just given what's on that. 489 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 4: Roster and and so there's that balancing act for some 490 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 4: of those games. 491 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. The you know, the part I wish I knew 492 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 3: is that they they know who you are, and they 493 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 3: watch you in the preseason anyway. Sure, so if they 494 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 3: really like you, they're going to grab you. Well. 495 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 4: And then think about the rule change that happened with 496 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 4: the preseason this year too, just being able to hold 497 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 4: on to that entire roster with one mass call, like 498 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 4: that's going to be different when it goes down the 499 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 4: line too, where if you were one of the initial 500 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 4: guys that got cut, but you have a chance to 501 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 4: make a roster elsewhere, Like that's kind of going out 502 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 4: the window unless there's something else that changes during that time. 503 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 4: If they can hold onto the entire roster, then it's 504 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 4: going to even more important for you to try to 505 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 4: earn a roster spot and earn that that preseason playing 506 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 4: practice squad. 507 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 3: Yeah big, Now it's getting it's getting thick, right, Yeah, 508 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 3: the guys are on the practice squad. 509 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 4: Now it's gonna be close to a dozen, right, Yeah. 510 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 4: I think it's used to be six, right. 511 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, and back in the day, yeah six. Anyway, make the. 512 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 4: Roster anything, it's a good opportunity. 513 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 3: I think it's a good thing, for sure. Practice squad 514 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 3: is a good. 515 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 2: Thing for sure. 516 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: Well, it's a good thing that we are going to 517 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: wrap this thing up because I'm a little tired of 518 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: you guys. This has been a long weekend, but an 519 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: exciting one. I think it's awesome to see well Vikings 520 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: absolutely done. 521 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 2: I got nothing to do until then, you know. 522 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've got working Man camp coming up, We have 523 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: ot as coming up, and then we'll take a nice 524 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: little break and then you know, it'll all start up 525 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: with with mini camp. 526 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 3: But you could record those interviews. 527 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 4: Now right, Look, oh it was great. 528 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 3: I love it. It's just like you know, everybody think 529 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 3: about it. 530 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,479 Speaker 1: Maybe, well, I mean, Pete, why don't you I'll just 531 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 1: go on a month long vacation. 532 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 2: You can do it. 533 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 4: I'm trying with that. 534 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 3: It's I mean that it's easy. It's just like, you know, 535 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 3: I don't know whatever. Sorry, I didn't mean. I didn't 536 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 3: mean it in any way. 537 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, well, hopefully they'll be able to you'll 538 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: get to know them a little bit better. We'll have 539 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: some series where you get to know them a little 540 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: bit better. You kind of get to know them as people. 541 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: I think that's one of the cool things about the 542 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 1: what what this job entails now more than anything, Like sure, 543 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: those questions are very relevant and we do ask those, 544 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: but watching them solve puzzles or answer weird questions or 545 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: do weird those. 546 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 2: Are really fun. 547 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: And I'm excited to see these guys because I feel 548 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: like a lot of what Kevin and Quasi have proven, 549 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: or the guys that they're bringing in our guys of character. 550 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: They seem just like all around Nights people that they 551 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: are happy to be here, and that's what. 552 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 2: We want to see. We want them to be happy 553 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 2: to be here, and we're happy to have them here. 554 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 4: It's always the thing of just trying to find out 555 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 4: we'll make some tick and getting to know who they are. 556 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 3: I can't wait till I can't wait till like November 557 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 3: October rolls around and seeing Jaquoele and Roy walk around. 558 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 3: He's a Louisiana native, played at LSU Good. Yeah, I 559 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 3: saw a game. I can't remember who they were playing, 560 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 3: but it was somewhere in the middle of America. Wasn't cold, 561 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 3: but he had one of those handwarmer things on his 562 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 3: behind him. Yeah, and I'm like, son, if you're warning 563 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 3: one of those, now, wait until you have to walk 564 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 3: to your car when it's twenty below zero, You're gonna 565 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 3: really love it. 566 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 1: Not that I've played sports in the cold, but from 567 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: experience of trying to transition to this father, it is 568 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: not easy. 569 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,479 Speaker 3: No, the worst is not easy. You've had you know. 570 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 3: The worst of it is late in the season when 571 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 3: you have a night game and then the bus pulls 572 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 3: in at one or two in the morning. 573 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you have to walk to your car. 574 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 2: I he'll be out with the first bus. We're on 575 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 2: like the fifth. 576 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 3: But it doesn't. I'm just saying that I don't care. 577 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter what bush you're on and how far 578 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 3: away your car is. That's a long walk. Just you 579 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 3: just get off the bus and waiting for them to 580 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 3: get your lose man, it's oh my god. Yeah, no, 581 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 3: you're right about that. Even worse, the only thing that 582 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 3: makes it words while is winning. You're absolutely right. You 583 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 3: do that and lose, it's. 584 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 2: Like it's torture. 585 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, I can't wait to see Dick. 586 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 2: He's gonna be chilling, gonna be real chilling. 587 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's going to be looking like Santa Claus Stocking. 588 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 2: We'll make sure we get him some extra clothes. Get him. 589 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure his friends will hook him up with some 590 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 1: advice on how to hand. 591 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 3: Try to find quadruplex jackets and stuff. 592 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: Christian Darisaw, does it have you seen how nice his 593 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: puffer coats look. 594 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 3: He's a first round draft pick. He's just you know, 595 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 3: you can order off the cat. 596 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: They are like Gucci north Face like style coats. They're 597 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: they're pretty snazzy. Well, on that note, thanks for listening 598 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: to the Minnesotavikings podcast. This week we will have another episode. 599 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: Coming at you next week, probably more draft related, but 600 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: we'll know more about the undrocted free agents and dive 601 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: on in with that. Thank you, Pete for being our 602 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: special guest this weekend. We really appreciate it. Jay, nice 603 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: to have you here. Eric's joining us here. He had 604 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: some other duties he had to handle with the press 605 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: conferences before joining us, but we appreciate you guys listening, 606 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: and we will 607 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 2: Talk to you next time.