1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, 3 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the 4 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. To the Scots and now your hosts, 5 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips and Kyle Yeoman's 6 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: Welcome into a Friday edition of Talking Cowboys presented by Tostitos. 7 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: We've got a new presenting stop sponsor out there today. 8 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: And also you know it's the official chip and the 9 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: official Dip of the Dallas Cowboys, the Chip and the Dips. 10 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: So we have a new presenting spa answering. You know, 11 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: Friday's last year it was say it with your Chest Day, 12 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: you know, And it's a day where you bring the energy. 13 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: It's a day where you bring the intensity. The hot 14 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: takes the opinions. And I think this year we dial 15 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: it back and we keep it calm, cool and collected. 16 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: What do you guys say about that? Why are you 17 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: out of your mind? Dial it back? And I know 18 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: some listeners out there probably aren't ready for the heat. 19 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: They aren't ready for that. He didn't put in his 20 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: sexy hair cream this morning, sexy hair cream. Well it's 21 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: called now y oh, don't act like that's not what's 22 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: sell the two. Yeah, it's actually on the two. Okay, 23 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: it says that for real. I don't think it says 24 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: that word for you take that deep down a side 25 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: deep and never bring it up again. Well you know 26 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: what I think you guys are right. You've convinced me 27 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: and I would never go say it with your chest 28 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: Friday without showing a little bit of energy. So it's 29 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: saying with your yes boy, yeah right now. I love 30 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: messing with you guys, but we will always bring it. 31 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: Say it with your chest Friday. For those of you 32 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: who may be new to talking cowboys in Dallas cowboys 33 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: dot Com, it's like I said, did you bring the heat? 34 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: I want your fan questions on Twitter. I just tweeted 35 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: right now, I want you to send in your Twitter 36 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: questions because we're going to answer them coming up here 37 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: in just a little bit. But how are we doing today, gentlemen? 38 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: Because Isaiah doing great things, rob doing great things, and 39 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: now we've got an official narrator of a documentary. I did. 40 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: I did. I like the whole damn thing. But I 41 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: liked I like the voice bringing us along the journey. Bro. 42 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: The whole thing was absolutely crazy, the stories, the storylines, 43 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: the how close we came to disaster. That was the 44 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: one thing about making this that getting those backstories. I'm like, 45 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: we we almost did what we what we were about 46 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: to take whom Just thank god we didn't do that, 47 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: the kidness. It could have been crazy the way that 48 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: things turned out, I think for this organization, because it 49 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: doesn't every draft, it's not a one year deal. It 50 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: is a five to ten year investment on who you're picking. 51 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: And war Stories is the name of the Deep Blue. 52 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: You can go check it out on Dallas Cowboys dot 53 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: com on the YouTube channel. It is fantastic and Heckma 54 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: Harrison is the voice of that. So yeah, man, it 55 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: really was really cool. Mad props to Caden Gates, Danny Sirek, 56 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: of course Heckma and then all of the individuals that 57 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: were a part of that as well. Nick Eatman was 58 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: a big part of that too, and it was really 59 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: really cool. So go check it out Deep Blue War Story. 60 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: And I'm sure the narration part of it cannot be easy. 61 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta get your inflections just right, you know, 62 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: that's that's not an easy thing to pull off, especially 63 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: with a sultry voice. Well, it helps to have a 64 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: sultry voice. No, let me tell you something. This is 65 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: not really kind of none of us on this show. 66 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: The kind of funny story is is that I did it. 67 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: The first time I did it, I was so extra like, 68 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: how good voice in it? And Derek and Nick came 69 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: back to me and said, just stop it. We don't 70 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: want that, We just want you just which is the best? 71 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: Just read it? What was the what was the way 72 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: they said it to you? Don't try and be Kyle, 73 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: don't be called, don't do radio voice cod get away 74 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: from ma, you know, don't do that. You do you 75 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: and read it like you're sitting there talking to your wife. 76 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 1: So I was like, all right, that's easy. I do 77 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: that all the time. It was perfect. It was perfect. 78 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: And Nikki does it too, exactly narrated, and y'all are 79 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: both awesome at it. But I'm gonna I gotta say this, man, 80 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: just honestly, working here, working man. I work with some 81 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: amazingly talented people. The people that on the back side 82 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: that to roxam Adina, to Chris Beam, to Kevin Timp 83 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: everybody that works here, Scott Purcell, Matt and you know, man, 84 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: if y'all don't know, like, I'm not the most technically 85 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: savvy person, so I am. I am always in awe 86 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: of TV production people's ability to see to be forward thinking. 87 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: Because I'm just reading this. I don't understand what it's 88 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: gonna happen and how it's gonna be, how it's gonna 89 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: play out, and it's just, man, everything about it I 90 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: think is amazing. And being someone from Dallas, h man, 91 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: I used to sell programs at Texas Stadium, you know, 92 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: so to be able to do this, I mean, this 93 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: never gets old to me. To be in this setting 94 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: and to also know to be a part of those drafts, 95 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: those and talk about those drafts like that. Man, Like 96 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: I said, it's a it's an amazing blessing for me. 97 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: And I don't take it lightly off for granted, but 98 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: that was that was yeah, yeah, yeah, that's for the kid, right. 99 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: You guys should have seen his face when he saw 100 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: it streaming live. We were about to do the high 101 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,679 Speaker 1: school game last night and we were in the booth 102 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: and we were about what fifteen minutes to kick off? Yeah, 103 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: So I mean it was we were getting right up 104 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: on like getting on air, and he looks down at 105 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: his moone he goes, no waylay. They just like freaked out. 106 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: It was awesome. It was a great job to you 107 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: and everybody involved with that. But I think it's it's 108 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: only fitting since we're talking about war stories and we're 109 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: talking about the draft, let's talk about some rookies a 110 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: little bit here on this edition of Talking Cowboys. Now. 111 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: A tough task for some of these guys that are 112 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: trying to make the roster and that are now currently 113 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: in COVID nineteen protocols like in Israel, Mukuamu. I'll leave 114 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: those guys out, but rob out of the rookies that 115 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: you've seen over the last couple of weeks, I'm gonna 116 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: take Michael Parsons out of this. Who has impressed you 117 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,799 Speaker 1: the most since you've returned from Oxnar Ohsa Diggi Zola. 118 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: I think I said it the other day. I mean, 119 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: he even if he's not a starter at defensive tackle 120 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: while Neville Gallimore is out with that elbow injury, he's 121 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: gonna play a lot and he's played really well. He's 122 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: been a guy that you know they've got him at 123 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: the three technique, but he can move around the defensive 124 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: front and his pass rush has been really good and 125 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: it shows up in the pre season games as well 126 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: as practice. We saw it from the jump in Ox 127 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: and Ard. You know, for a third round draft pick 128 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: to have the type of camp he's having, I think 129 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: you have to feel better about your tackle depth despite 130 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: the fact that you know you're missing a key piece 131 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: of your defense. Right now. With Galimore being out, they 132 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: were really expecting him to take a big jump. Still might, 133 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: but he's gonna be out several weeks, so they need 134 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: Osa to deliver, and so far he has. We'll see 135 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: if he can carry over. Though Osa Diggy Zoola was 136 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: taking seven spots higher than Neville Gallimore was in their 137 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: respective drafts. I mean Osa was seventy five, Gallimore was 138 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: eighty two. Isaiah, from what you've seen from Osa Diggy zooa, 139 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: has he gotten off to a better start than Nevill 140 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: Gallimore did last year. I mean we've seen both of 141 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: these guys since this group has been on this show. 142 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: We've had those conversations about both of those guys as rookies. 143 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: Who do you think was ahead at this point? That's 144 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: a tough question because they're they're they're coming into two 145 00:07:55,800 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: separate systems, and I think they have two different attributes. 146 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: I think that Olsa is a lot more explosive than Gallimore. 147 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: Gallimore's more of a can kind of consume you type 148 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: of type of guy, UM, and Olsa is like, I 149 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: need to get up in there, right, I need to 150 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: be I need to penetrate, let me let me find 151 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: a see. So UM, it's kind of hard to say 152 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: which one is ahead at this point in time. I 153 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: think that with the with the skill set that that 154 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: Olsa has in this system, I think that he will 155 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: be definitely have opportunity to shine more um because of 156 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: the abilities and the and the opportunities that he's going 157 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: to have underneath dan Quinn No. I like that. And 158 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: I think that Neville Gallimore, to sort of disadvantage from 159 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: last year, was retaught how to be a two gap 160 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: guy and so that's what turned him into that. But 161 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: I think this going into training camp, you saw those 162 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: changes about him, you know, with him being able to 163 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: pin his ears back and beat gaps, sound and attack um. 164 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: But if you know Quinn Bohanna to the rookie has 165 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: shown uh, you know I think we were thinking about 166 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 1: when when Woods departed, Um with the whole replacing Don 167 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: Terry Pole and guys like that, to get our defense sound, 168 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: for our linebackers to be able to flow. I think 169 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: Quentin Bohanna has stepped in naturally, and I like, um, 170 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: what I'm hearing about him from from front office guys 171 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: that he's an old soul is what I'm hearing. Is 172 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: this really a laidback, laid back rookie, but he's showing 173 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: what he has and showing us that he's gonna bring 174 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: some value to this defensive line. A lot of the 175 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: defensive tackle talk after the Neville Gallimore injury against Arizona 176 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: was woe is me, Oh my gosh, here we go again. 177 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: We're thin a d tackle. But there is a lot 178 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: of positivity I think around those two guys Osa and 179 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: about Quentin Bohanna as well. But I'll throw this back 180 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: at you, heckma, how important is it for young defensive 181 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: tackles to be simplified? Because you mentioned Nevil Gallimore trying 182 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: to be a two gap player, that's something he could 183 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: certainly do. It wasn't in his comfort zone, and he's 184 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: he's better as a one gap guy. But how how 185 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: does that kind of formulate a defense in order for 186 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: those guys to be successful? And if you ask any 187 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: defensive player, the number one thing that they want to 188 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: do is just read and react. They don't want to 189 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: do a whole lot of thinking. If you give them 190 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 1: too many responsibilities, that's where you have a defense that's 191 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: playing slow. And so when guys can be gap sound, 192 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: they know where they need to be and they can 193 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: just focus on that, that's when you get the best 194 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 1: out of guys, you know. And again, I don't want 195 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: to I think too much has been made about Mike 196 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: Nolan and what's the success that he didn't have. I 197 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: don't think that he was ever set up to be 198 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: successful in the year that we had, right, So I 199 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: just feel as though this new defensive scheme for Dan 200 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: Quinn and all of the energy that he's bringing to 201 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: the front line, I think that him teaching these guys 202 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: exactly what he's expecting out of them and his defense, 203 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: it's what's important, and that's you know. And I think 204 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: that's just a byproduct of what we've been seeing in 205 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: the preseason, the way these guys have been flowing to 206 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: the ball. Rob do you agree, Oh, for sure. I 207 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: was actually I was trying to go down the list 208 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: and see if there's anybody else that really Jabril Cox's huge. 209 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: Go ahead. No, I like Jabrille and I like him 210 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: like again, he's a he's a product of this system. 211 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: This is where he will shine simply because of his abilities. 212 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: He's a solid size, and he's fast, he's quick. His 213 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: ability to be able to carry tight ends, which we've 214 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: talked about extensively on the show. That's becoming a highlighted 215 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: position in this league. And you need a guy who 216 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: can run. You need a guy that can run. You 217 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: want to keep your secondary back you prefer to get 218 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 1: you will preferred to stay too high safety and keep 219 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,719 Speaker 1: your front seven just intact. You don't really you really 220 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: don't want to bring that guy down into the box. 221 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: So I think Jabrille allows for you to do that 222 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: instead of having to bring, you know, roll somebody down 223 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: and row somebody down close to the line. But they 224 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: talk about the advantages of being able to keep two 225 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 1: safeties high and trust your front. Yeah. So typically whenever 226 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 1: you run, whenever as an offensive front right, if the 227 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: quarterback comes up to the line of scrimmage, if you 228 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: have two plays called, which is typically what you do 229 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: all the time. Now in this NFL, you come up 230 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: to the line of scrimmage, you see too high. Usually 231 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: if you have a run play called, you're running the 232 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: run play. Usually you're running the run play. Because you 233 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: have a seven man box. You feel pretty good about that. Typically, 234 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: how do teams take away your run, Well, they bring 235 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: that safety, they roll that safety down. So now you 236 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: have an eight man box. So now you come up, 237 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: you have eight man box. What do you want to 238 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: do as an offense? I want to throw the ball right. 239 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: But so now what you're starting to see is a 240 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: lot of teams are coming up with these three receiver sets, right, 241 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: so there's really four weapons out there. So instead of 242 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: having to roll that safety down to still have to 243 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: respect that respect the run. Now you can keep two 244 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: guys back, you keep two guys deep on in the 245 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: back end bringing your nickel. Now you've covered up everything 246 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: in terms of receiving potential, and you still have help 247 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: on both sides of the field. Most of the time 248 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 1: you have helping in the middle of the field and 249 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: single high. I could look that safety off if I'm 250 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 1: really you know, if I'm really good with my eyes, 251 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: I could really put guy. I can overload them. I 252 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: could flood that safety to make them have to favor 253 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: one side, and I could isolate guys like Coop, right, 254 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 1: I can put Coop on one person, whatever I want 255 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: to do. When you have guys two guys back, it 256 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: makes it really difficult for offenses to throw the ball. 257 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: And if you have a front seven that's dominant and 258 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 1: you have some guys up front that can really get 259 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: a push and allow our now linebackers to run free, 260 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: we can stop both attacks that the offense can can 261 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: have against us. Talking about so you're talking two high safety, 262 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: so cover two, but dan Quinn traditionally is run a 263 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: cover three. What is the biggest difference between the cover 264 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: two and cover three? Whenever you kind of talk about 265 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 1: the front seven as well. So you hear a lot 266 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: about cover two whenever you see two high safety, that's 267 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: not just it, that's really at the surface level. So 268 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: on the surface level is Covered two, and then there's 269 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: Cover four, which is every guy has a quarter of 270 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: the field. But then you have like Cover eight or 271 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: it's half covered two and it's half Cover four, and 272 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: then you have all Cover six and a bunch of 273 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: other different variations that don't really get talked about. But 274 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 1: there's a lot of different combinations on one side of 275 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: the field where we're playing. Hey, Coop likes to run 276 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: these type of routes. So we're gonna roll, We're gonna 277 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: run two man. Not only we're gonna run cover two 278 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: the safety over the top. We're I'm gonna move that 279 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: cornerback on the inside of them, and I'm anna force 280 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: everything Coop does on the outside or anybody else, right, 281 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: I want to force them. Right. We might see that 282 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: against Tampa Bay. You saw it a lot against Michael Gallipla, 283 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: absolutely right. So when we face Tampa Bay, if we 284 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: can have a front seven, that's that's a boss, and 285 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 1: we can keep two high safeties. Now, guess what, Mike Evans, No, no, 286 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna take you. We're gonna liminate you. We're gonna 287 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: move our cornerback inside. Tradevon is gonna move inside, or 288 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: maybe we don't have to use Trayvon on you, because 289 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: now we can run a zone on that side of 290 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: the field and we can man everybody else up with 291 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: safety health. So there's a lot of different options that 292 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 1: it really provides you and it gives you a lot 293 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: of advantages with the ability to stop the run and 294 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: stop the pass. Yeah, and seeing the way that Quinn 295 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: is incorporating some Tampa two into his scheme, it says 296 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: a lot about what he thinks about his front and 297 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: their ability to hunt. Because the defensive mindset is, if 298 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna play cover two, then I believe wholeheartedly that 299 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: I can get pressure just like this. And that's why 300 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: when teams seeing you in the cover three, that's automatic. Man. 301 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: We have matchups on the outside, which last year we 302 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: were exposed in that way when we tried any three 303 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: because we were exposed on the outside, we just didn't 304 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: have the coverage ability and even when we went to 305 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: we just didn't have the personnel from a front line 306 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: setting to get that pressure. So that's a fantastic point 307 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: because going into the initial parts of the hiring of 308 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: Dan Quinn as a defensive coordinator, we thought it was 309 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: going to be covered three because it gives you extra 310 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: help up front, extra time, extra coverage on the back 311 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: end because you didn't think you were going to get pressure. 312 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: The fact that we've gone to these practices and we've 313 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: seen so much Covered two, I think it alludes to 314 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: just how comfortable Dan Quinn is. Heck, you said it 315 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: a moment ago, but I just wanted to re emphasize 316 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: that because he is comfortable with the front seven that 317 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: he has. Have you seen the same thing, Rob, Yeah, 318 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: for sure. I mean, and they're gonna mix up their coverages. 319 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: Like when Rod Marinelli was here Tampa two was his 320 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: deal play? How much single high did we see? But 321 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: I mean that was primarily what they did. Absolutely, they're 322 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: going to change up coverages, like Isaiah said, based on matchups. 323 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, it does come down to how effective are 324 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: you upfront? How much push can you get. I just 325 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: want to go back real quick to Jubil Cox. He 326 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: I don't know how much he's gonna get to play, 327 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: but he's more physical than I think. Maybe he got 328 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: credit for coming out of college. I think the biggest 329 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: thing he talked about the other day, he's he's known 330 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: as a cover guy, but he is stepped up and 331 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: hit and made tackles in these preseason games. We don't 332 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: see it in practice. I'm still I'm just very interested 333 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: to see how they're gonna figure out these linebacker reps. Man, 334 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: because I you know, I think, yeah, I think it's 335 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: gonna be I think it's gonna be a carousel. Man. 336 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna see guys just rolling through. And 337 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see it. Because now if we're able 338 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: to play two high safety, our cornerbacks don't have to 339 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: necessarily play as cornerbacks. We can drop our corners back 340 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: into back into a zone coverage. We can run Jabil 341 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: Cox out to the flat right. We can run him 342 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: all the way from a linebacker box. Soon as we 343 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: see that it's a that's a past. He can literally 344 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: take off from the box and get all the way 345 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: out to where a cover two corner would be playing. 346 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: Michael Parsons. Guess what he has that range right to 347 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: be able to run out right and if you want 348 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: to leave you want if you want to leave Jaylen 349 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: in the middle, leave Jaylen in the middle. I have 350 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: him spied a quarterback. So now you can put Jaylen 351 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: in the middle spying a quarterback, and he's that more 352 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: of a box guy. You can run Jabril and Michael 353 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: Parsons out to the flats and you can still have 354 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: all four of your of your secondary guys being able 355 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: to come up and feel gaps to make plays and 356 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: break on balls. It is going to be fun. And 357 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: dan Quinn, I know he's sitting back there with his 358 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: little his little his little little bag, and he's just 359 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: reaching to his little his little back because at toys, 360 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: you know, you know back in the days to take 361 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 1: all your your your toys out and kind of set 362 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:15,959 Speaker 1: him out. Just kind of sit back and look at him. 363 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: I know he's doing that right now. Leading up to 364 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: the first game, you had a little bag with your toys. Yeah, 365 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: fanny pack acts, Oh yeah, yeah, I'm picturing. Not surprised me. 366 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: But why do you always swing your fanny pack to 367 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: the hip? You guys ever do that? I don't hone 368 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: fanny I had one, but it's been a long time. 369 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: A picture in the Rock, you remember the rock picture. Yes, 370 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: he had a leather one. That was a good stuff. 371 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 1: I mean, Isaiah's just way too big for a fanny pack. Anyway. 372 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:43,959 Speaker 1: My grandpa had a fanny pack. That thing. He had 373 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 1: some much changing it. He was hanging down to his knee. 374 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: But but I mean, I just say, I hope Tampa's 375 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: not listening to this podcast because Isaiah just gave his 376 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: whole scheme away right there. But it's true. I mean 377 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: you see a lot of that with the way uh 378 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: that Michael Parsons is pressure in the A gap and 379 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: then he's belling out and there's nothing new under the sun. 380 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're just giving multiple looks. But they're 381 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: able to do that with the athletic ability of their guys. 382 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: And when you don't have that, you can't play like that. 383 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: And to to your point to backdoor what you just said, 384 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 1: when you start having guys that are athletic, like the 385 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: guys that we have, these are freak just athletes. Now 386 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: these are not just okay, they're good and they're in 387 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,479 Speaker 1: the NFL. These guys are elite athletes in the NFL. 388 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: Think about guys like Troy Paulamalu, the things that he 389 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: was able to do, Ed Reid he was able. They're 390 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: able to be at the line of scrimmage at the 391 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: snap right and then all of a sudden take off 392 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: and they're twenty five yards deeper than they were two 393 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: seconds ago. Right, So you have the ability to do 394 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: that not only with your secondary but now with your linebackers. Right, 395 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: And you started talking about the athleticism of it, like Bohanna, 396 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: you could drop you could drop him out. You could 397 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: drop him out now, right, man, maybe he shocks the 398 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: center of sharks, shocks the guard and now he's dropping 399 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: out and he's the middle linebacker. Now he's looking up guys, 400 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: so they yeah, yeah, absolutely right. So when you have 401 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: that kind of athleticism, right, maybe Bradley and I maybe 402 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: that's the way he finds his way onto the field, right, 403 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: Maybe he's he's dropping out into coverage. So there's a 404 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: lot of things you could do if you can get 405 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: some kind of pressure with your front four and guess what, 406 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: maybe you get a push with your front three. Now 407 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: you're really nasty, right right. So, I mean it's gonna 408 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,719 Speaker 1: be amazing once we get our entire team out there, 409 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: we're playing in real games, a bit of a master 410 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: class and how defense could be played for the Dallas 411 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: Cowboys going into the twenty twenty one season. I love it. 412 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: It makes me so excited just to see it. I mean, like, 413 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 1: like we've said plenty of times, the realistic expectation is 414 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: not to go from thirty first in the league, thirtieth 415 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: in the league to number top five. I mean, we 416 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: we're not. That's not the expectation. The expectation is to 417 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: see vast improvement. If you go any higher than that, 418 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: it's just a cherry on top. It's a little bit 419 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: of whip cream. And he liked. But hypothetically, hypothetically, if 420 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: you did go from thirty first to fifth's the chance 421 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 1: of I mean it, dan Quinn makes all the difference 422 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: in that. And I'm just saying, I maybe you have 423 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: only be here for one year. Yeah, listen, well, hypothetically 424 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: then that's what I started the preface my statement with that. 425 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying the way that they change with 426 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: those wholesale changes, your draft picks that you have, and 427 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: the ability to take defense from the basement that was 428 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: lifeless at certain points in the season to get them 429 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: to that point. I just see that they have the 430 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: personnel to do it. The success of this defense is 431 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: going to be dependent on their ability to take the 432 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: ball away, and you see that being emphasized in the preseason. 433 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: That's they're not They're not asking this defense to necessarily 434 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: get three and ounce. You could drive all day long, drive, drive, drive, 435 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: get all the way down to the red zone for 436 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: all life. We can care if we take the ball 437 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: away with our offense. We're now in a position to score, right, 438 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: And that's all you're asking. You just need this team healthy. 439 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: You need this team to be ahead of in the game. 440 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: And if we're ahead in the game and our defense 441 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: can get one or two takeaways a game, those are ws. 442 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: Those are ws. I agree with that. That's got to 443 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: be number one. The other things stopping the run. They 444 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: have to get better. We can't win a game that 445 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: quick change situation aginst Houston very first. That was they 446 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: they didn't react to that well really it really was. 447 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: But beyond but overall, they've been better against the run 448 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: of these preseason games. So we'll see. But there they 449 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: have taken steps upgrade every level. Ye, so we'll see. 450 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: I mean they are young in some spots and they're 451 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: not deep in some spots. But I just think with 452 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 1: dan Quinn and he's not off the COVID protocols yet. Um, 453 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,239 Speaker 1: but if they just don't bust as many assignments as 454 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: they had, that was part of their problem too, is 455 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: that the lack of understanding of communication or faith in 456 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: the scheme last year led us some really bad busts. 457 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: And then on top of that, yet an offense that 458 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: was so banged up that they couldn't compete and and 459 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: and match score for score with some of these teams 460 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: they are playing. It was just the perfect storm for good. 461 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: And that's why that's why culture is so important. Culture 462 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: is so important because when you have a team like 463 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: we had last year. Now, obviously it was a you know, 464 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: like I told you, guys, F five tornado everything where 465 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: everything that could happen happened to us in a negative sense. 466 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: But when you have a team that's having fun and 467 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,719 Speaker 1: you have guys that are making plays, then guess what 468 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 1: heck we're having now we're having fun on the field. 469 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: Now it's a party on the field. And guess what's 470 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: that translates into. It translates to a party in the 471 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: locker room. Right when it translates to a party in 472 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 1: locker room, guess what Now, we're going back to the 473 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: house and we're playing Madden together. Now we're on the 474 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: headsets and we're playing Madden and Cod and everything else, 475 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: and we're going out and we're going bowling together or 476 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: watching movies. And guess what now we're watching film together. 477 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: But guess what when things are bad and it's not 478 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: fun at practice, when I leave here, I'm out right, 479 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: I check cats is checking out and A right, I'll 480 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: see I'll see it tomorrow. And it doesn't sound good people, 481 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: but that's the way, that's the reality. I've been on 482 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: teams that are kind of like that. I've been on 483 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: a lot. I've been blessed to be on some really 484 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: good teams that the continuity and the culture was so amazing. 485 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: It's so tight knit, tight knit that it carried out 486 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: not only in the game, but you can see it. 487 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: You can see guys having fun and balling out and 488 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: getting after it, and then you go to the the locker 489 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: room and guys are laughing and the music is playing 490 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: there dancing around and you see some of that stuff 491 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: come across social media. Now, those are the teams that 492 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: are tight knit, and those are the teams that have 493 00:22:58,400 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: fun together, and those are the teams that are gonna 494 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: come municate the best. And on top of that, last 495 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: year you couldn't even do some of that stuff because 496 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: so it was just a double yeah, it was double yeah. Yeah, 497 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: it was awful. There are three teams that came to 498 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: mind when you talked about that. One of them's the 499 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,719 Speaker 1: reigning Super Bowl champion Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the other one 500 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 1: wanted Super Bowl two years ago and was in the 501 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. And that's the Kansas City Chiefs, and the 502 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: other one was the Buffalo Bills. Those three teams have 503 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: some fun, or at least it looks like they have fun. 504 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: And guess what all three were in a conference championship 505 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: game last year? It was three of the four teams. 506 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: The other one was Green Bay. I wouldn't necessarily say 507 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 1: they're having a ton of fun right now, but they'll 508 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: figure it out. They're ultra talented. 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It 558 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: was CBS eleven on Sunday, so tons of fun still 559 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: to be had, Lots of affiliates actually carrying that broadcast 560 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: across the Dallas Cowboys network. But I t's going into 561 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 1: the break? What's going on? Nothing? Something happening? Nope, Okay, 562 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: we're not going through the principal's office everyday? Am I 563 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: going to the No, you're not You're good? Okay, don't 564 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: tell anything about Nick that you shouldn't good. I know 565 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 1: that's true. Don't love you NICKI man um so I'm all, 566 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: I'm all out of sorts now. Goodness, gracious, I tease 567 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: defense going in, but I've completely forgot something off the 568 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: top of the show that we definitely need to hit. 569 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: A man got a bag today, got some money, got 570 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: some paid today. Because a restructured deal for Ezekiel Elliott 571 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: has now freed up a significant amount of cap space 572 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 1: for the Dallas Cowboys, Rob, Can you go through the 573 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: deal and the restructure of zeke contract. Yeah, it's it's 574 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,959 Speaker 1: similar to what they've done the last year, restructuring some 575 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: of their top offensive lineman guys de Marcus Lawrence. Last year, 576 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: same deal you can you convert a large portion of 577 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: the base salary to signing bonus, so you're creating in essence. 578 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: I think it's close to seven million bucks this year, 579 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: but they can carry it over and that's what they 580 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: did last year. I think they restructured to Marcus Lawrence 581 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: last September and it was ten million bucks or so, 582 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: and everybody thought Earl, Earl's coming, It's it's Earl time, 583 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: and they did. They didn't do that. They used it 584 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: and carried it over to twenty twenty one and used 585 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: it to resign Dak Prescot or help resign Dak Prescos. 586 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: So that's what the ten million was for. Yes, So Isaiah, 587 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: I say it's literally yeah, I don't want to burst 588 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: your bubble, but they maybe just be doing that plus 589 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: creating kind of that emergency fund during the season for 590 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: injuries and stuff like that. Maybe maybe you or Isaiah well, 591 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: I think we had a conversation when I said, you 592 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: can kind of determine that were either the severity or 593 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: the concern writing on the wall was what you use. 594 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: You got what I said, Yeah, the writing on the 595 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: wall in terms of the confidence in Dak's health, yes, 596 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: or the preparedness of making ensuring that you don't know 597 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: what happened last year, it doesn't happen again now the 598 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: last year it was different, but ensuring that you have 599 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: a backup quarterback that you feel confident about going into 600 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: to this season. And I say, I've kind of projected 601 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: that something major was going to happen over the last 602 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: week leading up to the season. Well, there it is. There, 603 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: it is right. Seven million dollars is now available for 604 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: us to acquire some security at that position or other positions. 605 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: But as we look through this roster, I think we 606 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: feel good about most other positions. You know, we have 607 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: always backup center, swing tackle, but quarterback, so we're not 608 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: We don't. We don't say names, but let's just say that. 609 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: Keep your eyes peeled over this next week. I would say, 610 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: to figure out exactly why are we freeing up cap space? 611 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: Something big, something big, just putting bait on your hook 612 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: to Lorian something big. Maybe as Rob as rob P said, 613 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: maybe not last I mean, by heck, no, last year 614 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: we did the same thing, right and we didn't didn't 615 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: We didn't do anything with it. But then last year 616 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: didn't go the way we wanted either. So how about 617 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: we not repeat history and we make sure that we 618 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: do what that we get what we need to get. Yeah, 619 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: rob it. So you do you think if you're leaning 620 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: one way or the other, they're going to make a 621 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: move a big move. I don't think this is just 622 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: for that. What would you classify as a big move. 623 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: You're talking like all six point eight. I'm talking like, 624 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: you know, thinking that that was like an ET fund 625 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: last year and it wasn't an ET fund. Okay, I 626 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: don't think it's that. I don't know if there's anybody 627 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: out there that reaches that sort of No. No, it 628 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: definitely gives them more flexibility this year if something And look, 629 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: I mean, what does Stephen Jones always say three sixty five? 630 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: So they need they needed space under the cap. Now 631 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: they have it, but they also can can use it 632 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: for next year because remember, I mean, the CAP's gonna 633 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: go up next year, hopefully with more people and revenue 634 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: coming in, you know, as we're still in this pandemic, 635 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: but it's not going to be what it could be 636 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: until that TV money rule. Look, I understand where playing 637 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: is safe and that's cool, all right, but here's the deal. 638 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: We have a backup quarterback situation that needs to get 639 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: resolved here pretty soon. And I don't think any of 640 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: you guys we've talked about this at list and I'm 641 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: not going to go into it any more, but we 642 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: have to do something about that. And I feel like 643 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy has already taken this to the people that 644 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: need to hear it and say, look, you know, I 645 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: don't want history to repeat itself in the form of 646 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: something happening to dak And if the person that comes, 647 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: you know, out of the bullpen, I need that to 648 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: be a bona fide guy. And I just don't feel 649 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: like I have a bona fide guy, no question marks, 650 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: not at all. What if Cooper Rush is done, doesn't 651 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: matter if he stopping stop stop, stop stop. If he 652 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: goes full debot jackson wait a minute, wait a minute, 653 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: hear yourself say that he say it? Come on, woman time. 654 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: What if Cooper Rush goes full debot climbing through that 655 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: window against Jacksonville, he can he can freaking blow that 656 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: wall out, and Cooper Rush will have a valiant effort. 657 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: It's still not enough to ensure the security of that 658 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: position that is too valuable of a position to go 659 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: into the season with a question mark, what if triple quadruple. 660 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: No disrespect to those guys, they're just not of the 661 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: caliber of player that you need in position. Should something 662 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: happen today, okay, I think that they're in the process. 663 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: They're in development, right, just like many vehicles, right, you 664 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: go through the sketches and then you go through a 665 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: little mold. I think they're in the molding phase, right. 666 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: They haven't necessarily made it to the press ship. The 667 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: body hasn't been sculpted, it hasn't been pressed out. They 668 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: haven't started putting parts in it yet. They're not ready, 669 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: and they need somebody who is a bona fide leader, 670 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: somebody who was respected when they walk in his locker room. 671 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: The players say, he doesn't know the playbook yet, but 672 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: that boy can ball, right, and should that go down, 673 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: there's no question marks on his ability. There might be 674 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: question marks on how much of the offense we can run, 675 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: but there's no question marks can that boy play. That's 676 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: what they have to bring in here over the next week. Yeah, 677 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy has gotten an opportunity to evaluate these guys 678 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,239 Speaker 1: at LYND and he didn't get a chance to do 679 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: that last season. It's kind of like a parent. Man, 680 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: Like most parents out there, they got an opportunity to 681 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: teach your kids in the house for a full year 682 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: during the pandemic. You thought it was the teachers, and 683 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: then you start teaching your own kid and you're like, no, 684 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: it's you. You know you know that. I mean, hey, 685 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: as a parent, you want to think that your kids 686 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: are all angels. And then you sit there with him 687 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: for a year by yourself, and you're like, hey, got 688 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: to keep my eye on you. So Mike is in 689 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: the same He's of the same mind state. Man, I 690 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: am not gonna let this out of the hen house 691 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,479 Speaker 1: and have this come back to bite me. And you 692 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: know what, I have to get a guy to come 693 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: out firing if I'm ever put in that position and 694 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: if he doesn't make any changes in it, and it's 695 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: absolutely for let's just say to the swing tackle position 696 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: or another d tackle something like that along those lines. 697 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: That's still shoring up your team, that's still making you better, 698 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: but there's still going to be that lasting question mark 699 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: until we get that resolved. You can't can't do that, No, 700 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: you just can't. I think they used four million, four 701 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: million dollars on a quarterback somehow. So you paid Dandy 702 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: Dalton three last year, so it's positive to pay, you 703 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: pay because there's gonna be some big moves happening here 704 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: next week. You pay forty five million dollars on a 705 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: one to five I respect, it would starter, who's your backup? 706 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: If you wanted to stretch to the cap, that would 707 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: leave you what three point five out out after that 708 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: or something like that, probably something. I mean, that's enough 709 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: to maybe go get a backup, a swing, swing tackle 710 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,479 Speaker 1: if you if there was one available that you liked, 711 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: somebody pops up, because it would have to be a 712 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: pop up on What did that do to Zeke's deal? 713 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: What did he do for him? Did it add a 714 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: year or to his contract? Did it just money up front? 715 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: It doesn't add anything in terms of years. It just 716 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:34,760 Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna make his his um base jump 717 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: later in the years of his of his deal. But 718 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't add any deals to it. And his money 719 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty two was guaranteed anyway, So I'm sure 720 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: they looked at it like what difference does it make? 721 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: And and again I don't think it's next year, but 722 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 1: in a couple of years that TV money is rolling 723 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: in and the CAP's gonna get really, really big. So 724 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: I don't think they're too worried about all fitting all 725 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: that in and it's converted into a signing bonus, right right, 726 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: He doesn't care because it gets them all up front. Yeah, 727 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: I mean, players don't mind the US at all because 728 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: they sure he probably point six probably today. I don't 729 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: know if his direct deposit or hand it. I've never 730 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: been in that situation. In that situation, wouldn't that be 731 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: had to be very nice? Actually? Yeah? But yeah, but 732 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: eighty six six is in his pockets today. Now you know, 733 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: after taxes, you'll probably round probably sent around five. Yeah. 734 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: I don't even want to think about just how I 735 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: want to think about it. I mean, I would love 736 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 1: to think I would love to have that problem, wouldn't 737 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 1: you have? You see this blank stare, blank stair, imagine 738 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:39,879 Speaker 1: a blank check, so kind of I kind of want 739 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: to go back. Oh, actually, you know what, We've got 740 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: a couple more minutes before we need to take our 741 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: second break. I want to talk about Mali cooker activated 742 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: off of COVID nineteen protocols. He is free to practice today, correct, Rob, Yeah, 743 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: I believe he's out there. So he's good. So that 744 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 1: means they've got Israel. Mcquamne came off the list on Wednesday. 745 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,320 Speaker 1: So the guys that are left, as far as I remember, 746 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: Connor Williams, Demante Casey, Ceedee Lamb, Carlos Watkins, I think 747 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: that's it. And then dan Quinn as the coach. Dan 748 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: Quinn said he's feeling better. He would not disclose where 749 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: he is in the protocol, but he said I'll be 750 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: back if I can get cleared in time to coach Sunday. 751 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 1: We'll see. So mcquomo is he able to play Sunday? Yeah, 752 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 1: he is. He's done. He's off. Yeah, he's off the Yeah, 753 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,919 Speaker 1: he's a guy that definitely has to a great game 754 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: on Sunday. I mean, it's a that's a really good 755 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: bubble guy to watch. I don't I don't. I've said 756 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 1: earlier like I think he makes the team, but I 757 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: don't know. Man, it's you got to figure out these 758 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: other positions too. He's he is the guy that you 759 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 1: that you just wish would just go out there and 760 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: ball as as a coach, because you are you're able 761 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 1: to recognize this. First of all, he's A. He's a 762 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: physical specimen right his he's he's versatile is all get out. 763 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: Not only he's value me working in value proposition right 764 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: your VP. He can play a lot of different positions. 765 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 1: I could put him at the safety position. I could 766 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,399 Speaker 1: put him at the cornerback position. I could him as 767 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: my nickel, A six four nickel. Are you kidding me? Right? So, 768 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: the versatility of this guy. But as I talked to, 769 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 1: like I told you guys, I talked to Dan Quinn 770 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 1: in Arizona. He said, I need him to flick the 771 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: switch on and go hit somebody. He hasn't made that 772 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: switch in his mind from cornerback to safety. It hasn't 773 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: happened yet. He needs it to happen this weekend. And 774 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 1: that's unfortunate because in this defense, he's gonna have to 775 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: be a thumper. He's got to come up's and guys 776 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: like Hooker and Casey they have that DNA and we've 777 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,439 Speaker 1: seen them in preseason games. Closed quickly. I mean, Mali 778 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: Cooker is this. I think so many people have forgotten 779 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,479 Speaker 1: about how awesome he was coming out of Ohio State 780 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 1: and just how great he was and so and I think, 781 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: like if you didn't watch you know, Big ten football 782 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: or know about him in Indy. Man, this guy is 783 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 1: you know, when he's healthy, he is a guy that 784 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: can impact the game. But that's what's fascinating is they 785 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 1: got to figure out where he is in his career 786 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: and what you know, can he be the guy the 787 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen that was getting interceptions and making plays And 788 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 1: if he's not going to be a starter, can he 789 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: play special teams which he's never done. He's never done that. 790 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,439 Speaker 1: There's just different moving parts there and he just needs 791 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: to get time on the field and show what he 792 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,359 Speaker 1: can do. The problem is we have one game left 793 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 1: to do it. I mean, I think he makes the team, 794 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: but I'm not sure, like what the defined role is 795 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 1: going to be week one. That's exactly the way I 796 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: think about it. You're going to see Kaz and Hooker 797 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,399 Speaker 1: as your free safeties in my opinion, and there's going 798 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 1: to be a rotation. It's just what is that rotation? Right? 799 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 1: Is it sixty forty? Is it's seventy thirty one way 800 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 1: or the other. I don't know. I mean, I don't 801 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: think this coaching staff knows. I think this is going 802 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 1: to be the best special teams unit the Cowboys have 803 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 1: seen in a very long time. Think so, really, I 804 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: think so? So I'm not somewhere John Fossils smiling. I think, 805 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: I honestly think that because the amount of talent that 806 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,359 Speaker 1: we have in the secondary. We have a lot of 807 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: talent in the secondary. Now are they dominant, No, we 808 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: don't have a lot of dominant players, but we have 809 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: a lot of very competitive guys. What do you need 810 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 1: our special teams? I need competitive guys. And if you 811 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: don't have a clear defined, like solid too deep that 812 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 1: you don't know is you know exactly who who's gonna 813 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: be in a position and guess what everybody has to 814 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: contribute somehow. That means that everybody's gonna be contributing on 815 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,720 Speaker 1: special teams. So that means that you're taking starters slash 816 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 1: second tier guys that are going to be competing not 817 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: only in the games under defensive respective defensive positions, but 818 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 1: also on special teams. Your talent level just what up? 819 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: Typically you need your core five, and you still need 820 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,320 Speaker 1: your core five, But now maybe you don't need a 821 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: core five. Maybe you need a core four and you've 822 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 1: got guys that are very talented that are still going 823 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 1: to rotate on that side of the ball. But now 824 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: they are gonna come in. They're gonna compete for you, 825 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 1: especially Coach Fossil. When you have a coach that that 826 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: just just as hype and guys love them and you 827 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: see it on hard knocks. The guys want to be 828 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 1: around them, and they respond them to them, they respect 829 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: for them, they respect them. That is going to be 830 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: a very high energy, competitive unit and I think is 831 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: going to be the best that we've seen in a 832 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 1: long time. And they're gonna have a big impact because 833 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: usually we just talk about the two thirds. Now we're 834 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 1: gonna be talking about all three phases of the game. 835 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 1: That's a really good point because darry and Thompson has 836 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: been that way on special teams previously. You won Israel 837 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 1: Mukuama to step up in that regard. Donovan Wilson, even 838 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 1: early in his career, did a lot of that and 839 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 1: now he is presumed the starter. Talking about Donovan dealing 840 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: with a groin issue. Yeah, my question is who's who's 841 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,760 Speaker 1: getting those reps at strong safety? Who is behind Donovan 842 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 1: Wilson Because mcquamo's a center field guy, probably not going 843 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,760 Speaker 1: to be your strong safety. Could be urs is probably 844 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: that guy. Right, So if Donovan Wilson is out, does 845 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: that mean Jaren Curse is making this team? No doubt, 846 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 1: because then that's a fifth name that's thrown into the mix. 847 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,959 Speaker 1: Now he can't Unfortunately, there's too many, too many guys, 848 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,360 Speaker 1: I mean, the number is alone saying no. And it 849 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,359 Speaker 1: sucks because he could play. What if he's the only 850 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 1: other box safety on the roster. Somebody got to move. 851 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,439 Speaker 1: And you just made a point about special teams. That's 852 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 1: where I was going. Oh, yeah, he is a special 853 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 1: teams demon. That's what he does. And though, and so 854 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: most special teams is comprised of dbs and linebackers. And 855 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: so that's a good problem that we have on this team. 856 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,320 Speaker 1: And you cannot sacrifice a guy that that's his m 857 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 1: for a young and upcoming guy that hadn't shown Yeah, exactly. 858 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,439 Speaker 1: I love it when you finish my sentences, by the way, 859 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 1: But it's just it's just guys like that that I 860 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: feel like, Look, naturally, you can't just look over your run. 861 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,839 Speaker 1: Curse and mcquomo may make this team, but he may 862 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 1: never play this year. I mean, and that may be 863 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,399 Speaker 1: the the coing thing for him because he has to 864 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,839 Speaker 1: develop into what you need him to be in order 865 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: to make be on Reggie Robinson King, Well, I mean 866 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 1: like on the rosters, want to get to play and 867 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: come back. How no, no, no, no, no no no no, 868 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 1: this isotot bring up child. Sorry. I think as a as, 869 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: I would hate to be a coach right now because 870 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 1: Israel mcuomo is like the guy you're just like, it's 871 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 1: not like I need you to develop here, here, and here. 872 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,240 Speaker 1: I don't need you to get better at all these spots. 873 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 1: It's just one thing. I just need you to deflict 874 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 1: the switch. Be willing to throw your head in there, 875 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,359 Speaker 1: be willing to throw your body in there. And as 876 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 1: soon as that clicks for him, hopefully it does. He's 877 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,839 Speaker 1: a beast. And to be in a position where you 878 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 1: if you cut that guy and you know that's all 879 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 1: you're waiting on. He goes to another team, he flicks 880 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: that switch. Crap, I just cut a six four, two 881 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: hundred and five two ten pound safety slash corner slash nickel. 882 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 1: He's not gonna get cut. He would be, he would 883 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 1: be picked up. I mean waivers. But I'm talking about 884 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 1: off this. Yeah, yeah, I'm saying that that's that's somebody 885 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 1: that you don't want to let go of, That's all 886 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And lessilly, you could protect him for the 887 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:31,800 Speaker 1: first two weeks of the year. So even if you 888 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 1: did put him on the practice squad, you could pull 889 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 1: him up for that kind of halfway hybrid thing. You 890 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: could protect him for two weeks and then I mean, 891 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 1: week three, he's either a part of the roster or 892 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,280 Speaker 1: he's not. I mean, and and then he's it's every 893 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 1: week he'll be on waivers from that point forward. So 894 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 1: it does make things a little bit sketchy. Who knows. 895 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 1: Maybe he is on waivers and nobody picks him off. 896 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 1: I mean, nobody kicked him until the fifth round that 897 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 1: they're drafted. Any that does happen, like it happens all 898 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: the time, six four. But it was a sixth round pick. 899 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 1: You're saying, remember Alex Tanney, I don't quarterback. It was 900 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 1: balling out. Oh yeah, likes you know, he passed with waivers, 901 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, like we always think, like with 902 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 1: whatever at this position, at this position, I just I 903 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 1: don't see him. I agree with you. He's got some 904 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,399 Speaker 1: unique skills, very much so so. Nick named the last 905 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 1: safety corner, nickelback, you that you got that you found 906 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 1: out was this big name, the last sixth round pick 907 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 1: that was a lock to make a team no matter 908 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: what he showed in the preseason, because he hasn't shown 909 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 1: a whole lot. But it's a lot of six round 910 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 1: picks with gold jackets. So I don't saying Tom Brady 911 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:47,879 Speaker 1: and I'm saying whoa, I'm saying, I'm saying rookie miss 912 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 1: seven ring himself. I'm sorry, rookie year. And in terms 913 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,759 Speaker 1: of not showing what you need him to be in 914 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,840 Speaker 1: a position switch, I mean, there are a lot of difference, 915 00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 1: just not that far off is what He's not. What 916 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 1: we're saying free, I'm not he's a bad player, and 917 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:02,840 Speaker 1: cut the guy and let's never think of him again. 918 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 1: I'm saying, even though he's valued in this organization, it 919 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,879 Speaker 1: doesn't mean thirty one other teams are valuing him as well. 920 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,320 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean that by anyone those attributes. I would disagree 921 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 1: on that one, just on this particular case. You don't 922 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,240 Speaker 1: find guys that versatile. You just don't. It's not common. 923 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 1: I don't care where he was drafted. I don't care 924 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 1: if he's sitting on the couch. You just don't see 925 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,399 Speaker 1: guys that can move their feet like we've seen him 926 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 1: move his feet and be able to not only again, 927 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 1: if he figures out how to hit somebody. If that's 928 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 1: just a decision, that's not a skill set, that's just 929 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 1: do you want to do it. If he figures that out, 930 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 1: he can play safety, he could play corner, and he 931 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 1: can come in on your I don't care if you 932 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 1: move your biggest receiver to the slot. I'm moving him 933 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 1: to the slot. And guess what, I got a Honda 934 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:49,759 Speaker 1: hands for you. Chris just gave me a stat nine 935 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,799 Speaker 1: six round picks that are Hall of famers. So there's 936 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 1: guys that do it. I agree with you in terms 937 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 1: of versatility, except one of the versatile tools he doesn't 938 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 1: have is one of the most important when it comes 939 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 1: to playing. But it absolutely correct. But again it's that's 940 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 1: not a capability, that's a decision. But when I when 941 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:06,920 Speaker 1: I came into the league, I was a quarterback that 942 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,839 Speaker 1: they moved to receiver. I didn't return kicks before. Guess 943 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,920 Speaker 1: what I figured out how freaking returns from kicks. I 944 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 1: had never ran down and hit anybody. Guess what you're 945 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,879 Speaker 1: gonna run into this way. What about blocking, you're gonna 946 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,359 Speaker 1: I've never blocked anybody. Guess what you want to play? 947 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 1: You want to check, you figure it out. So when 948 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 1: they when they had back in the day, when they 949 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,400 Speaker 1: had those four man wedges and everybody does those three 950 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 1: hunder powders can link their hands up, they will put 951 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,320 Speaker 1: me on the inside and run me down to said Isaiah, 952 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 1: I need you to split those guys. You run down there, 953 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: you close your eyes and you jump as fast and 954 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 1: hard as you can and hope that you wake up. 955 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 1: You know, like, that's what you do. That's what you 956 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,160 Speaker 1: do in this league. And guess what, you will earn 957 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 1: the respect. And after you do that, it gets a 958 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 1: little bit easier every time. You just have to make 959 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 1: the decision that one time, I'm gonna do this no 960 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,799 Speaker 1: matter what. And guess what, I'm okay. The same thing 961 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 1: we're saying about deck, right, that's gonna get rolled up 962 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 1: on at some point in time. Right, Yeah, I woke up, 963 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 1: but that's gonna get rolled up at some point. Right, 964 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 1: And what's he gonna do. I'm okay, Yeah, let's go ball. Yeah, 965 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 1: it's the same thing. So that's all you're waiting on. 966 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 1: You're waiting. The coaches are literally waiting for that one 967 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: moment and when it happens, oh man, we got a dog. 968 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 1: That's the light switched. Dan Quinn's talking absolutely and it 969 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,719 Speaker 1: just hasn't been flipped on yet. Once it is, he 970 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 1: can really turn into somebody help. He could really help 971 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 1: the team. I mean, you're starting strong safety right now. 972 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:19,920 Speaker 1: Was a sixth round pick as well, and Donovan Wilson. 973 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,280 Speaker 1: So it can't happen. It just has yet, is my point. 974 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,719 Speaker 1: And I say until that point, I don't know. If 975 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 1: he with a deep safety group, he might be the 976 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,359 Speaker 1: odd man out. And I wouldn't rule out it comes 977 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 1: to Dono for the Hall of Fame either. That's my guy. 978 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 1: Gig of Maggs. Right, Maggie, there you go. All right, 979 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,399 Speaker 1: let's take a break. When we come back, we're gonna 980 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 1: answer some fan questions and continue on with or Talking Cowboys, 981 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 1: presented by Toast thedos Hi. 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Is it att dot com for 1018 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:53,080 Speaker 1: details to Talking Cowboys, whether you're watching from home or 1019 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,400 Speaker 1: you're cheering in the stands. With that slore lenses, you 1020 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,239 Speaker 1: can see every exciting play book, an appointment at your 1021 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,439 Speaker 1: local slore experts and see what Lord can do for you. 1022 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,359 Speaker 1: See more, do more. We didn't have this at training camp, Kyle. 1023 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 1: We just miss and have Yeah every time every time 1024 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,960 Speaker 1: we did those reads we were like, man, I can't 1025 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 1: wait to have them. I'll tell you what training camp. No, 1026 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:21,080 Speaker 1: I'm getting somebody's bag. I'm not staying here. Oh it's 1027 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,719 Speaker 1: not happening this year. I'm going if I if I'm 1028 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,200 Speaker 1: sitting in the stands with the fans and I'm doing 1029 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 1: WebEx podcasts from this, I'm going. You save. I'm not 1030 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 1: leaving me save a lot of headaches at home, but 1031 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 1: staying home and not being gone. He don't talk. I'm 1032 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,759 Speaker 1: just telling you from personal experience. Well, you're still on 1033 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,000 Speaker 1: the couch, not you know, are back. I made it. 1034 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:47,760 Speaker 1: I made you back. I'm still on the couch apartment. 1035 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:53,239 Speaker 1: I'm still on the couch food. I'm just gonna sleep 1036 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:59,360 Speaker 1: here today. By the way, we had an update on 1037 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,200 Speaker 1: a stat that Chris uh was so kind to look 1038 00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,399 Speaker 1: up for us in the last segment. Only one sixth 1039 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,399 Speaker 1: round pick has ever been named to the Hall of Fame. 1040 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,799 Speaker 1: He'll be two in about seven years. Yeah, yeah, Jack 1041 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,680 Speaker 1: Christiansen was the only one. Sixty. I'm in seventh round. 1042 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 1: I'm in seventh round. Well, the thing is is, it's 1043 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,440 Speaker 1: the it was the sixth round at the time, but 1044 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,360 Speaker 1: he was drafted in nineteen fifty one by the Detroit Lions, 1045 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,280 Speaker 1: and it was still the sixty nine Chris, you guys, 1046 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:27,240 Speaker 1: which would be a second back check everything? By right, Chris, 1047 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,160 Speaker 1: that's only one job. I mean, that's my job, all right, Chris, 1048 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,799 Speaker 1: thank you kind of way way to back up the 1049 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,880 Speaker 1: homie And guess guess who did Chris's job before Chris 1050 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:43,920 Speaker 1: did his job? Who is that? I'm just saying, like, well, well, 1051 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 1: not nearly nearly as good at this. Can you sprinkle salt? Now? Yeah? 1052 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:57,399 Speaker 1: Chris's next, Chris. Chris is way better at his job 1053 00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 1: than I ever put in bush Um what the visuals 1054 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:19,759 Speaker 1: too much? That's why you have to watch this show 1055 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:24,160 Speaker 1: on video. Audio does not do adjustice. Thank you for 1056 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 1: all of those audio listeners out there. Go watch us 1057 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,879 Speaker 1: on phone just to see what happened, because that was great. 1058 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:36,440 Speaker 1: Leave it up there. It's like sitting in it. Yea. Alright, Okay, 1059 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,239 Speaker 1: we have some fan questions we need to get to. 1060 00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:43,080 Speaker 1: I'm already. I'm done. Same with your chest Friday, all right. 1061 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 1: Mike Gray asked, do you think the Cowboys may play 1062 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,800 Speaker 1: more of a three or four defense until Neville Gallimore returns, 1063 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:51,799 Speaker 1: kind of taking away the need for a one and 1064 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,040 Speaker 1: two technique and kind of playing with one of the 1065 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,440 Speaker 1: other Isaiah, you're shaking your head. No, No, I don't 1066 00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,359 Speaker 1: think you change your entire scheme for one guy. We're 1067 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,400 Speaker 1: pretty really to be deep at this position, and you 1068 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:02,719 Speaker 1: have some young guys that need to go out there 1069 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,759 Speaker 1: and compete. It's some unfortunate that Gallimore's down, but if 1070 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,319 Speaker 1: there was every opportunity for, you know, for the same 1071 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,560 Speaker 1: next man up to really come into play, this is it. 1072 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,239 Speaker 1: You got some guys that you need to gain confidence in. 1073 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,200 Speaker 1: You got some guys that need to gain confidence in themselves, 1074 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,080 Speaker 1: and you throw them in a fire. You throw those 1075 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:18,480 Speaker 1: guys in a fire, and you expect them to have 1076 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,759 Speaker 1: an impact, and you're not just going to shy away 1077 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,080 Speaker 1: from it because of one person. These dudes got to 1078 00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:24,480 Speaker 1: step up and play, and I think they're coaches are 1079 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,000 Speaker 1: gonna put them in a position to do so. Can't 1080 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,640 Speaker 1: make the switch because a one guy, I mean, that's 1081 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,920 Speaker 1: a pretty simple thing. Not at that position. No, And 1082 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,759 Speaker 1: even if that's your base most of the time, you 1083 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,800 Speaker 1: know you're playing so much Nickel that that's not something 1084 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,600 Speaker 1: you're Yeah, and here's the other thing. They didn't haven't 1085 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,440 Speaker 1: changed up their defense because they've missed Tank Lawrence, so 1086 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 1: they wouldn't change up anything because of Nevill Gallimore. And 1087 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,520 Speaker 1: you know it. To be honest with you, As far 1088 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,440 Speaker 1: as the depth that you have, I think you have 1089 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:54,239 Speaker 1: more depth quality as far as talent is concerned to steal. 1090 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,959 Speaker 1: Stay with your scheme. Report from practice. Dave Hellman says, 1091 00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,840 Speaker 1: Greg's eirline eight of nine on goal attempts today, second 1092 00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,880 Speaker 1: leg is nice. That's good, that's encouraging. I wonder how, 1093 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,160 Speaker 1: I wonder where he missed from. I didn't say probably 1094 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,319 Speaker 1: that's probably the only place he missed. I know if 1095 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:16,839 Speaker 1: he from. If you miss got a boot man, if 1096 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:24,880 Speaker 1: we miss I'd love to see that awesome yep. Uh 1097 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,160 Speaker 1: my goodness. I mean, if if he ends up missing 1098 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,880 Speaker 1: from thirty seven, it's like, oh, what's going on? But 1099 00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,000 Speaker 1: if he misses from sixty seven, then that's a little 1100 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:37,879 Speaker 1: bit different. Uh. Geo, our guy, Geo Molina says, with 1101 00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:41,720 Speaker 1: Neil Parsons and Cox changing the speed, the overall speed 1102 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,320 Speaker 1: a linebacker, which is something we talked about earlier. Is 1103 00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,000 Speaker 1: it a possibility that we see a transition where Smith 1104 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:51,279 Speaker 1: and Layton vander Esch become rotational guys. You're already seeing that. 1105 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I think we are right. They will be. Yeah, 1106 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,279 Speaker 1: they might wander, both might play some special teams. I 1107 00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,879 Speaker 1: mean just because I mean, that's not a bad thing. 1108 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,520 Speaker 1: It's not I mean a demotion we had. We had 1109 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,520 Speaker 1: Darren Woodson in here last week and he did it 1110 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,160 Speaker 1: all throughout his career. Guy that should be in the 1111 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,000 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. There's nothing wrong with that. But I 1112 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 1: just think that that's possible, you know, because you've got 1113 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,560 Speaker 1: to if you're gonna be on the game day roster 1114 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,080 Speaker 1: and you're not playing ninety eight percent of the snaps 1115 00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,080 Speaker 1: like Jalen Smith did, then yeah, you could see those 1116 00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:20,920 Speaker 1: guys on special teams. I don't think that's out of 1117 00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,520 Speaker 1: the question. That's not a bad thing. I know. I 1118 00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,120 Speaker 1: bring this up. When I was in Seattle, when Dan 1119 00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:29,520 Speaker 1: Quinn was around, you saw you saw you saw Thomas 1120 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,360 Speaker 1: on special teams. You saw Sherman on special teams. You 1121 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:36,240 Speaker 1: saw some of your premier guys, Cam Chancellor on special teams. 1122 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,480 Speaker 1: When you were in a position. Then when you have 1123 00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,799 Speaker 1: depth and you can put some of your most competitive, 1124 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,840 Speaker 1: dominant players on special teams, why have two thirds of 1125 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,279 Speaker 1: your units really good. When you can have all three 1126 00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,240 Speaker 1: phases good right, when you can have all three phases dominant, 1127 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:51,960 Speaker 1: why would you not do that if you have players 1128 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,440 Speaker 1: that are selfless and willing to do it. Now, obviously 1129 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,480 Speaker 1: you always more plays means more risk of injury, absolutely, 1130 00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,560 Speaker 1: but you can't play scared. So if you have an 1131 00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,719 Speaker 1: opportunity to go out there and have your dogs, go 1132 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,920 Speaker 1: out there and compete on special teams, you take you 1133 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,080 Speaker 1: dominate that phase. If you're dominating three phases into the game, 1134 00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:10,320 Speaker 1: guess what your chances of winning just went up? Isaiah 1135 00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,759 Speaker 1: stand on special teams day, I like this, say it 1136 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,440 Speaker 1: with your chest, my friend. Kind of backing up on 1137 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,400 Speaker 1: the GEO question, is the linebacker room more crowded than 1138 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:23,360 Speaker 1: the wide receiver room with guys like Francis Bernard and 1139 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,919 Speaker 1: Luke Gifford now being in danger of being on that bubble? Yeah, 1140 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,359 Speaker 1: I think that. You know, the depth is incredible from 1141 00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:34,640 Speaker 1: the linebacker perspective from where we were last year to now. So, um, 1142 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,640 Speaker 1: those two guys added Cox and Parsons just makes it 1143 00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:42,279 Speaker 1: and better. And yeah, I mean that's a whole other 1144 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:47,560 Speaker 1: starts graded or second highest graded linebacker in the NFL. Preseason. 1145 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,000 Speaker 1: He's got a ninety five grade on pro football. But 1146 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,399 Speaker 1: I think it is what I also think it's very spectacular, 1147 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,400 Speaker 1: is the way that that speed translates in this game. 1148 00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,799 Speaker 1: But you know, I want to answer that when you're 1149 00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:01,120 Speaker 1: talking about GEO and the special teams part. I think 1150 00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,200 Speaker 1: it's important to to think about this this squad maybe 1151 00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:07,040 Speaker 1: three years ago where special teams was kind of an afterthought, 1152 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:12,680 Speaker 1: and now and losing games because of special teams eras, 1153 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,879 Speaker 1: and now this team is just like, nah, we're gonna 1154 00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,360 Speaker 1: put our best guys out there. It doesn't matter what 1155 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,439 Speaker 1: you're getting paid. You can play special teams as well. 1156 00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,480 Speaker 1: But you know, I think for a team of of 1157 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,200 Speaker 1: guys that you want to see them be selfless, this 1158 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:26,839 Speaker 1: is the way to do it. And so if there 1159 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,160 Speaker 1: was anyone like Malie Hookers, a guy that says I 1160 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,400 Speaker 1: never played special teams, well, hell, if you want to 1161 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:35,600 Speaker 1: make the squad, you gotta play special teams. Doesn't matter. 1162 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,759 Speaker 1: Gotta gotta find a way to fit into a role, 1163 00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,799 Speaker 1: especially if you're not the starter. I mean, even if 1164 00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:43,560 Speaker 1: you are the starter, if you want to contribute, like 1165 00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,920 Speaker 1: Isaiah saying, then hey, as long as you don't get hurt. 1166 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,080 Speaker 1: That's my one issue with putting those even go out 1167 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,560 Speaker 1: there thinking about that. Yeah. Uh, final question here, and 1168 00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,960 Speaker 1: this is I don't really want I guess I'll say 1169 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,280 Speaker 1: the name Terzo Power is kind of fun. I mean, yeah, 1170 00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,880 Speaker 1: it's the name of the account Terso Power. Uh. We 1171 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:04,800 Speaker 1: know Jalen won't save money if he's cut, but keeping 1172 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,640 Speaker 1: him is not costless. He may take a spot from 1173 00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:12,840 Speaker 1: someone in better at another position. Why isn't this always 1174 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,800 Speaker 1: framed that way? So more of saying that even though 1175 00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,240 Speaker 1: he's not gonna save money, it doesn't come without a 1176 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:23,040 Speaker 1: cost to keep him on the roster, either by cutting 1177 00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,960 Speaker 1: or trading. I don't think there's even a remote possibility 1178 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,680 Speaker 1: of cutting Jalens Man. Jalen's not going anywhere unless somebody 1179 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,320 Speaker 1: comes with a big boy like out of his world trade. 1180 00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:35,840 Speaker 1: He's not going anywhere leading tacklers that might too, like 1181 00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,600 Speaker 1: out of this world trade would mean the cowboys get 1182 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,600 Speaker 1: the best value, because I don't know what is what 1183 00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,760 Speaker 1: Jalen Smith's value is your trade market. It's probably not 1184 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:48,160 Speaker 1: a whole lot. Jalen Smith is a good linebacker when 1185 00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,640 Speaker 1: you let him do what he does, when you ask 1186 00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,160 Speaker 1: him to do the whole gamut, which is what we 1187 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:54,720 Speaker 1: did last year. We expected him to be able to 1188 00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,600 Speaker 1: shed blocks and all that kind of stuff. Now he's 1189 00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,200 Speaker 1: getting paid a pretty penny, and I understand the expectations 1190 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,360 Speaker 1: rise when that happens. But if there's a guys, there's 1191 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:03,800 Speaker 1: plenty of guys in the history of football in the 1192 00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,040 Speaker 1: NFL that got paid a pretty penny and they can 1193 00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,400 Speaker 1: do this. They do this really well. He can tackle 1194 00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:11,720 Speaker 1: very well. So put him in the box, right, let 1195 00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:13,880 Speaker 1: the other guys run around, Let Parsons run around. Put 1196 00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:17,240 Speaker 1: him it's putting him at what position metal, put the mic, 1197 00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,280 Speaker 1: put him at the him at the mic. Yeah, that's 1198 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:20,880 Speaker 1: that's what I'm gonna do it. Yeah, that's what. Put 1199 00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:22,240 Speaker 1: him at the mike. Keep him in the box. Put 1200 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,040 Speaker 1: two guys on the edge that could really run. And 1201 00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,880 Speaker 1: I don't think that's Laden Vanderesh's natural position, which they 1202 00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:30,200 Speaker 1: hadn't playing last year. So um and again, I go 1203 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,720 Speaker 1: back and forth on Layton Vanderesh. Sometimes I think he's 1204 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,520 Speaker 1: better as a mic. Sometimes I think he's better at 1205 00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,560 Speaker 1: the will. I think that the collarbone injuries, the neck injuries, 1206 00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:39,920 Speaker 1: and all of those will makes him a will. And 1207 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:41,720 Speaker 1: I think if you want to get production and if 1208 00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,760 Speaker 1: you care about him, get him out of there because 1209 00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,680 Speaker 1: that's where he's gonna get the most damaged by taking 1210 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,560 Speaker 1: on guys. Look, you know it's a lot when it 1211 00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,640 Speaker 1: comes down to Jalen and when you're doing the comparisons 1212 00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,000 Speaker 1: with Mica, it's night and day. And it shouldn't be 1213 00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:58,520 Speaker 1: that way. You should look at Jalen as another as Micah, 1214 00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,360 Speaker 1: as a guy on this team that's gonna come tribute 1215 00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,200 Speaker 1: along with Jalen Smith as well. So a long season, 1216 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,440 Speaker 1: both of these guys are going to contribute to the 1217 00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,440 Speaker 1: wins on this team. You have to start looking at 1218 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,840 Speaker 1: this unit and how they how they what's the word 1219 00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,360 Speaker 1: I'm looking for. I can't think of a word, but 1220 00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,160 Speaker 1: how they how they benefit each other? Right, and like 1221 00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,120 Speaker 1: like these guys are gonna be played the compliment how 1222 00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,840 Speaker 1: they compliment each other. That stop looking at this as oh, 1223 00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,280 Speaker 1: this person does this, this person gonna do this? No, no, no, 1224 00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,800 Speaker 1: they do. They're gonna be really good together. And and 1225 00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:28,360 Speaker 1: when you bring the talent level up like you did 1226 00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:32,080 Speaker 1: at this position again, you take Jalen Smith, you say, hey, 1227 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,120 Speaker 1: big fellow, you don't have to worry about all that anymore. 1228 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,680 Speaker 1: What you do well, push that good dog on that 1229 00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,800 Speaker 1: easy button and go right, go hunt. Okay, I can 1230 00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,080 Speaker 1: do that. I do that really well, right, And I 1231 00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,000 Speaker 1: could justify my paycheck if I go out there and 1232 00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,720 Speaker 1: I own that. Michael Parsons, you running hit? You want 1233 00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,200 Speaker 1: to run in hit? You like that, right, Jabrel cos 1234 00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,760 Speaker 1: you're running hit, Neil, you're running hit. Okay, you guys 1235 00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,480 Speaker 1: do that right. And I'm allowing my other, my other 1236 00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,000 Speaker 1: big boys to do what they do best. That's when 1237 00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,600 Speaker 1: guys can play playing fast. I have to worry about 1238 01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:02,720 Speaker 1: all these other responsibilities. I could play fast. I could 1239 01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,120 Speaker 1: do exactly what Dan quinns. I cannot play fast if 1240 01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:09,160 Speaker 1: I'm man to man on Logan Thompson across what I do. 1241 01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,240 Speaker 1: Will I do it? I'm willing to, yeah, or I'm 1242 01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:12,560 Speaker 1: willing to do it. But am I gonna be the 1243 01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:16,120 Speaker 1: best at it? No, I'm not gonna go. I'm just not. Yeah. Well, 1244 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,080 Speaker 1: the guy, I think guy answer his own question. Kyle 1245 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,960 Speaker 1: think his money's guaranteed, so he's here and and so 1246 01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:25,080 Speaker 1: what fine roles that he can do? Well? You know, 1247 01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,400 Speaker 1: whether it's whether you guys mentioned the mic, whether it's 1248 01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,880 Speaker 1: the Sam playing you know, kind of set in the 1249 01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:31,760 Speaker 1: edge on the side of maybe you know, he's a 1250 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,000 Speaker 1: blitz guy. Sometimes they play him on the line of 1251 01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:37,440 Speaker 1: scrimmage as a rusher, all those things, just you know, 1252 01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:39,440 Speaker 1: put him as part of the rotation. That's what that's 1253 01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,160 Speaker 1: what they're gonna do. I'm interested to see how many 1254 01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,280 Speaker 1: snaps it's gonna be per game though, ones if everybody 1255 01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,360 Speaker 1: stays healthy and just how they figure that all out. 1256 01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,720 Speaker 1: That helps guys stay healthy. Yeah, yes, it does, it does. Absolutely. 1257 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:50,360 Speaker 1: That's a great point. And maybe that's one of the 1258 01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,920 Speaker 1: reasons why they are excited to keep all those guys around. 1259 01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,000 Speaker 1: It is that way if I'm doing I mean, last year, 1260 01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,400 Speaker 1: if Layton vander eschmiss time, it was Jalen Smith and 1261 01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,360 Speaker 1: then Joe Thomas, Joe Thomas, I mean, and nothing against 1262 01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:04,600 Speaker 1: Joe Thomas, like Michael Parsons Kanail have been exponentially. Yeah, 1263 01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,280 Speaker 1: Joe Thomas looked a lot better than the linebackers that 1264 01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,880 Speaker 1: we had last year. And just run stop and again 1265 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:11,960 Speaker 1: back to what you're saying, whatever, all this stuff that 1266 01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,640 Speaker 1: we're talking about doesn't mean a thing if we cannot 1267 01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,800 Speaker 1: stop the run. And Michael Parsons right now, we're singing 1268 01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,360 Speaker 1: his praises and he's so great. But if he can't 1269 01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:23,440 Speaker 1: take on, he will get consumed as well. It will 1270 01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,320 Speaker 1: be the same way if he can't stick his head 1271 01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:26,919 Speaker 1: in there, if he can't shoot those gaps, if he's 1272 01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:29,240 Speaker 1: not making those tackles, then we're back to square one 1273 01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:32,040 Speaker 1: all over again. Yeah, lots of defensive talk today here 1274 01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,760 Speaker 1: on Talking Cowboys, but that is going to do it 1275 01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,120 Speaker 1: this week. Thanks for joining us here on Say It 1276 01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:42,200 Speaker 1: with your Chest Friday. As always for keep keep in mind, 1277 01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,120 Speaker 1: there's some fun things to look out on Dallas Cowboys 1278 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,240 Speaker 1: dot Com this weekend. 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