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Speaker 1: My husband has a secret family. Turns out that's not

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Speaker 1: the worst of it, and I'm thinking about leaving him.

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Speaker 2: Am I the A hole?

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Speaker 3: I didn't register any of that.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, what do you think, Sophia?

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Speaker 3: Once soon?

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Speaker 2: No processing processing? Wow, I was I was delayed. Now

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Speaker 2: guy has a whole secret family and that's not the

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Speaker 2: worst of it.

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Speaker 3: No, that's awful. Why why would why would OP be.

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Speaker 2: The a hole?

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Speaker 3: That's horrible.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I guess we'll find out. Also, this is my sister Sophia. Hello,

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Speaker 1: she's subbing in for John while he's sick. I learned

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Speaker 1: about seven months after a wedding that he'd actually been

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Speaker 1: engaged to someone else let's call her Amanda at the

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Speaker 1: time we met. So basically he's like, oh, that girl

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Speaker 1: is looking like a snack. Yeah, well he was already engaged.

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Speaker 1: He's like, mmm, oh p damn you so fine, And

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Speaker 1: then he's like, screw that engagement.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna I want to engagements for the price of engagements.

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Speaker 2: Do I live in Guta or am I just a dick?

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Speaker 4: If you order now for nineteen ninety nine, you can

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Speaker 4: get to engagements.

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Speaker 1: Ah on, get it, get it while it's hot. He

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Speaker 1: claimed he was worried about hurting her as they had

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Speaker 3: What of course about that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: However, what hurt me most is that he did not

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Speaker 1: call off their engagement until he proposed to me.

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Speaker 3: So they were they were both engaged.

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Speaker 1: Engagements going at the same time to engagements. So many

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Speaker 1: engagement engagement bro, I can yeah, ud, dating one person

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Speaker 1: is hard enough.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how people.

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Speaker 3: He's preparing for two weddings.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, Yeah, preparing for a wedding is nuts, dude, man,

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Speaker 1: And like you have to do like non refundable deposits

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Speaker 3: So did he like book the venues?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'll see how much of a dick

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Speaker 2: this guy is.

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Speaker 1: We've worked through that issue thanks to therapy, and we

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Speaker 1: continued to still go to therapy.

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Speaker 2: You worked through that? Is that red flag?

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Speaker 3: Ope? I don't think you can work through that. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 4: A deal break for if someone was engaged to someone

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Speaker 1: Whole time, the whole freaking part of the relationship where

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Speaker 1: they're not engaged.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I mean, hopefully not that long, but

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Speaker 1: I mean usually you date someone for like at least

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Speaker 1: a year before you get engaged, and she didn't.

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Speaker 3: Know until seven months after.

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Speaker 2: That's cheating, is it not.

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Speaker 3: Cheating?

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Speaker 1: Early last week I discovered I was pregnant with our

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Speaker 3: Two other children with this prick. That maybe why she

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Speaker 3: wanted to make it work because they had children.

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Speaker 1: But still, no, this is going forward in time, so

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Speaker 1: they are so I think they were, well she couldn't.

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Speaker 1: So basically they worked through the whole thing of them

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh.

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Speaker 1: Has some standards girls beauty. He was out of town,

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Speaker 1: so I thought it would be fun to surprise him

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Speaker 1: can see where this is going, type I see you

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Speaker 2: Do you see where this is going? Yeah, type I

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Speaker 2: see you, I see you.

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Speaker 1: So I planned on getting a cake with You're going

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Speaker 1: to be a dad again, delivered to his hotel.

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 1: I called the hotel asking how I could go about

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Speaker 1: put him up in that hotel group. I have admittedly

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Speaker 1: and realized something was going on. I know he's dumb

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Speaker 3: I see that.

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Speaker 1: A soyvia prime target to hack and and so I

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Speaker 1: I found dms with Amanda that were flirty and she

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Speaker 1: had been tagging him in stories. So, Amanda high school sweetheart?

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Speaker 3: How did did Ope not have an Instagram?

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Speaker 2: I feel like, did they not break off the engagement?

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Speaker 2: And did they not? Yeah? Did Ope not see the tags?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I feel like you would have noticed the tags like

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Speaker 4: have you never gone into your your significant others like

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Speaker 1: I called him up and asked him if there was

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Speaker 2: He said, absolutely not. What the boy should I do?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely no, absolutely no, absolutely not, absolutely no, absolutely not.

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Speaker 1: I absolutely not, absolutely not, absolutely no. He said absolutely no.

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Speaker 1: And I said, are you sure? Because I know you're

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like I want to tell you about my child

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Speaker 3: on the way. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: After now being together, I can pick up on some

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Speaker 1: up on his tails when he's lying, this is a

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Speaker 3: He's so many red flags. I can't even.

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Speaker 2: This is red Flag's magic mountain right here. Come on? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: six of those last six at least at least And

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Speaker 2: when he tried to tell me he was somewhere else,

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Speaker 2: I called him out on his tell and he said

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Speaker 1: This guy is a ship bag. Please break up with him.

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Speaker 1: But there's more to this story.

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Speaker 3: Jim.

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Speaker 1: I assumed he was coming home to tell me that

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Speaker 1: a woman we will call Sarah, and Sarah and him

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Speaker 3: A whole separate woman.

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Speaker 2: Man knows how to multitask.

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Speaker 1: He was with her and has not been going on

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Speaker 1: as many work trips since COVID started. The kicker is

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Speaker 1: it's kids with her are six and one who will

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, six year old.

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Speaker 4: So he's been Wait, so he was seeing Sarah at

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Speaker 4: least for at least six years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, while engaged to Amanda and op.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man knows how to multitask. Wow.

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Speaker 1: You know, man's a dick, right, Yeah, but you gotta

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Speaker 1: time management. This guy, he's got a Google calendar. He's

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Speaker 1: got Google calendar is stacked. Think about how many soccer

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Speaker 1: games I can't I see you go to bro at

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Speaker 1: least at least a lot.

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Speaker 2: Least a lot.

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Speaker 1: He and Sarah both claim that they haven't been sexual

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Speaker 1: relations since their youngest was conceived. He was seeing both

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Speaker 1: Sarah and Amanda, and I at what's.

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Speaker 3: In the beginning of a relationship. Oh my god, Oh

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Speaker 1: Okay, Like he's a dick, but I'm just baffled, Like,

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Speaker 3: That's too much?

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Speaker 2: And he has a job, and he has a job.

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Speaker 2: How do you handle all this?

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Speaker 3: Who takes him to the hotels?

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Speaker 2: I know, so he's probably high up.

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Speaker 4: I don't do it all man, He probably is like

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Speaker 4: an assistant who manages all the relationships to sucker.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, you met to and Bally appointment.

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Speaker 2: You have to meet Sarah at the Hotel Marriott. You

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Speaker 2: have to meet Amanda at the Hotel Fairmount, and you

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Speaker 4: She's gonna announce you know the baby, all right, and

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Speaker 4: make sure to remember that she just got a haircut

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Speaker 4: and hearing your kids' names and their profiles.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't have a haircut. Her hair is the same. Don't

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, bye bye. I like this assistant. It's a

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Speaker 1: I asked him about his d MS with Amanda, and

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Speaker 3: He went to a high school reunion.

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Speaker 1: How is your high school reunion more than you and

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Speaker 1: the mother of your child.

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Speaker 2: Girl, red Flugs.

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Speaker 3: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: So he did this last year and had been hanging

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Speaker 1: and confused. I gave birth to our first son January

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Speaker 1: and like I said, I'm currently pregnant with our third.

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Speaker 1: The betrayal goes further, How does it go further? How

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Speaker 1: She has been the best grandmother to my boys and

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Speaker 2: Told, Oh my god, I wonder if.

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Speaker 1: She's helping with those kids too. Yeah, I wonder if

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Speaker 3: Sarah about one these kids, yeah.

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Speaker 2: The same time.

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Speaker 1: Great take care does I don't think Amanda has any

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Speaker 1: kids with them. Bummer doesn't need any worse, Sovia doesn't

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Speaker 1: to talk to my friends about this because all of

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure how to change that. I don't have

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Speaker 1: stuck and don't know how to get out. Has anyone

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Speaker 1: left a marriage not knowing where to go or how

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Speaker 1: to survive? What does OP do?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 4: That's really rough. She definitely needs to leave him. But

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Speaker 4: that's really rough. Financially Yeah, and having children.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well at least she'll get child support.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but like you know, it's not usually enough to.

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Speaker 1: Like well, I mean, if she knows, I mean it

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Speaker 1: sounds like he's well off, she knows he's cheating, so yeah,

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Speaker 1: divorcing him probably would be easy.

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Speaker 3: Course.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if there's a prenup, but if

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Speaker 1: Yeah, crazy, six months. Yeah, it's six months jam packed. Well,

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Speaker 4: This is from the video Sleeping with my sister's husband

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Speaker 4: Psycho Roommates and Destroyed Marriages. I did think that they

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Speaker 4: Yeah, kind of sums it up. This is from public

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Speaker 2: That was a roller coaster of a sentence.

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Speaker 1: Sad, My god, I didn't know you You see your

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Speaker 1: Geez, Catherine. Also, I'm like, oh, he didn't leave you

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Speaker 4: This is from public subscriber, the real dal Just use

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Speaker 2: We love you, We missed you. Comment below about your

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Speaker 1: Yea, oh the sea section story, we'd love to hear

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Speaker 4: My only sea sections experiences chrisonatomy and other doctors shows.

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Speaker 1: But we love you. We'll see you soon. And also

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Speaker 1: all the Sofias, we'll see you soon. I sent my

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Speaker 1: son to school in a dress. The school kicked him

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Speaker 3: No? I wouldn't say so, but let's hear more.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what they say is boys can't wear dresses.

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Speaker 1: Harry Styles has taught us anything. It's that real men

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Speaker 1: don't wear dresses. They wear kilt kilts.

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Speaker 3: Yes, as I always said that too.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever seen like the strong Man, like the

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Speaker 2: Dudes in the world old and will like pick up that.

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Speaker 1: You know, those those balls like they're like like one

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they wear skirts, So why can't your son so?

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Speaker 3: True?

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Speaker 4: There was an episode I can't remember where it's from,

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Speaker 2: Also, if you haven't a very similar looking person to

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Speaker 2: me is my sister Sofia. Hello, everyone be nice to her.

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Speaker 1: This is her first time being anywhere on the internet,

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Speaker 4: Actually, I'm I recorded artists in a in a musical.

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Speaker 1: Don't look her up. No, her name is Sophia Donner.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know this. I found this out recently.

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Speaker 4: Teacher in high school made a musical and he recorded us,

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Speaker 3: Well, you know he asked us.

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Speaker 3: For sure, no one pays me. I'm a high I'm.

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Speaker 2: A she's a high value individuality. Also, does my sister

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Speaker 1: So my son started second grade last week. I get

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Speaker 1: So he's got a twin sister. I told them both

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Speaker 2: Who cares? Who cares? Gender roles are now fluid, y'all.

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Speaker 3: Gender doesn't exist.

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Speaker 1: Gender is a myth invented by the patriarchy. I'm thinking, whatever, dude,

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Speaker 1: we're running late. Just put on some kind of clothes

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Speaker 1: And also he was serving looks in that thing you

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Speaker 1: Three hours later, we get a call to come pick

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Speaker 3: That's outrageous. How was it distracting?

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Speaker 1: He was very sad when my wife got there, and

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Speaker 3: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what the heck?

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Speaker 3: What the heck? Let that kid slay?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let that kid slay.

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Speaker 1: Also, shouldn't you be like mad at the bullies for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, say no to bullying. Rise up, victim blame.

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Speaker 1: My wife is irate, asking how I couldn't have realized

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Speaker 2: I mean, to be fair, zombies.

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Speaker 3: Say, I'm got bullied for eating salad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, if I'm going to get bullied for eating

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Speaker 1: think like a lot of kids wouldn't even bully you

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Speaker 1: for wearing.

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Speaker 3: A skirt on l Yeah, maybe it's regional, so.

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Speaker 1: It's just about everyone else. I've run this by. My

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Speaker 1: wife thinks damage has permanently been done because he'll be

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Speaker 1: in the same school system as these kids the rest

456
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Speaker 1: of his life, and he'll be known as the one

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Speaker 1: who wore a dress and I was being thoughtless or

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Speaker 1: willfully ignorant because I was in a rush, and our

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Speaker 1: son suffered for it. That's actually an interesting take. It's

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Speaker 1: an interesting take. What if he did he wasn't trying

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Speaker 1: to make a statement by wearing the dress. He just

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Speaker 1: like thought that was sick.

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Speaker 4: But if he continues to wear a dress, then then

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Speaker 4: they'll just get used to it. Then he'll just be like, well.

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Speaker 2: What if he doesn't want to wear a dress because

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Speaker 2: it was so traumatizing.

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Speaker 3: Now, well, if he doesn't want to wear a dress, then.

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Speaker 2: But now he's forever the kid who wore that dress

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Speaker 2: that one time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but kids for kids memories?

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Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: There was this guy that threw up in third grade

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Speaker 1: and for like the entire rest of middle school he

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Speaker 1: was like known as vomit kid. Okay, but I ate

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Speaker 1: as salad one time in fourth grade and to this

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Speaker 1: day people still know me a salad boy.

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Speaker 2: Are you really gonna say, are you really gonna say?

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Speaker 2: These kids have short term memories with you?

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Speaker 3: For everybody, he keeps.

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Speaker 4: Wearing the dress, then everyone will get used to it

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Speaker 4: because they'll be they'll be they'll be known as the kids.

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Speaker 2: But what if he doesn't want that to be part

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Speaker 2: of the All right, Well, we're gonna keep going. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna keep going, all right.

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Speaker 1: At the time, I truly didn't think it was that

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Speaker 1: big of a deal. But that doesn't change that I

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Speaker 1: put my son in harm's way. Now I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: whether I made the wrong decision or not, or how

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Speaker 1: to feel about it. Am I the a hole? Okay, Sophia,

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Speaker 1: question to you, Well, first, I want to put it

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Speaker 1: to y'all. Would you let your son wear a skirt

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Speaker 1: to school if he wanted to, and if he chose

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Speaker 1: the skirt? Would you give any like preamble where it's like, hey,

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Speaker 1: this is what you're choosing usually girls wear this, or

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Speaker 1: blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: Would you like would you say anything before? And now?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 1: Hopefully those cute little fingers of yours are tippy tapping

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Speaker 1: on those key words in the commons flow.

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Speaker 2: But Sophia, what do you think? One?

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Speaker 1: Would you tell your if your if your son Sophia

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Speaker 1: has no children, I have a son. No, you don't

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Speaker 1: something I don't know about. I have five sons, five sons.

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Speaker 1: She has been getting busy. She is man college college

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Speaker 1: went crazy on you.

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Speaker 3: Just succulents.

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Speaker 2: There's others succulents.

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Speaker 3: I'd let them wear a dress.

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Speaker 2: The sucker is okay.

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Speaker 1: So would you tell your your son one like any

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Speaker 1: context around the choices making for his clothings? And two

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Speaker 1: would you even let him wear it in the first place?

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Speaker 2: What do you give? Yeah? What would you say?

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Speaker 4: I would absolutely let my son, my imaginary son.

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Speaker 1: Your imaginary son not the real sons, not one of

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Speaker 1: your five sons. Your real five sons never be caught

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Speaker 1: dead in the imaginary one.

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Speaker 3: All right, Everyone's no.

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Speaker 4: I would absolutely let my fake son wear any dresses

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Speaker 4: that he wants, because that's his own decision. And I

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Speaker 4: think that children are often not allowed to like think

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Speaker 4: for themselves, and that is bad parenting. I think also,

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Speaker 4: I think that if you tell them beforehand, I feel

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Speaker 4: like you're kind of influencing their own judgment. And I

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Speaker 4: think that if we don't put our own biases on children,

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Speaker 4: they will grow and learn.

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Speaker 2: Well, but he's going to get those biases at school.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but but maybe if we those other children weren't

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Speaker 4: given those Oh yeah, but we.

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Speaker 2: Don't some time.

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Speaker 1: We don't live in this rosy world where everyone's just

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Speaker 1: going to be nice to this kid. Like if you

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Speaker 1: show up in something different, you are going to get bulleted.

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Speaker 1: Just like when I started a webcomic in middle school,

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Speaker 1: no one thought that shit was cool.

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Speaker 2: I thought, maybe, well the thing is actually aw.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was funny.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Fia, But like, well, you know, actually that's a

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Speaker 1: good point, like with a right so to flip it,

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Speaker 1: Like I did a lot of things that would be

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Speaker 1: considered uncool or weird in middle school. But I don't

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Speaker 1: like my parents never said like oh that's going to

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Speaker 1: be uncool or weird. There's like, hey, you do it,

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Speaker 1: do whatever is right for you, and you're probably like

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Speaker 1: you're probably gonna get bullied. Didn't even say they were

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Speaker 1: gonna bully just got bullied.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't tell you that, So maybe you don't

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Speaker 2: tell your So you didn't tell your kids.

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Speaker 4: Now, Sam, you're running a successful TikTok.

552
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Speaker 2: I've come so far and my parents are so proud.

553
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Speaker 3: To support you. They are they are proud.

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Speaker 1: So all right, in conclusion, you you wouldn't say anything.

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Speaker 2: You just say sure.

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Speaker 4: Where I would say you be you?

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Speaker 3: I would say that rhymes so.

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Speaker 2: You be you sligh?

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Speaker 3: You be you sligh. That's what I would say.

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Speaker 2: Oh and that rhymes okay.

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Speaker 3: I write poetry.

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Speaker 2: And she.

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Speaker 1: So Sophia would just let the kid be bullied and

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Speaker 1: she thinks the bullying is good. That is what she

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Speaker 1: That's not what I said anyway.

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Speaker 2: What would you do?

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Speaker 1: I mean also if you're if I mean for those

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Speaker 1: of you have kids, like what have you done?

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Speaker 2: Has your your child ever?

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Speaker 1: Like you know, boy or girl chosen the opposite sex clothing,

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Speaker 1: and what would you say to your children?

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Speaker 2: Really curious about what you would do.

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Speaker 3: Clothing doesn't have gender.

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Speaker 1: Clothing doesn't have gender, and neither do you. Maybe you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, who knows? Anyway, let us go put your

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Speaker 1: answers to the comments. We love you, We'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you soon.