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Speaker 1: Hey, I'm welcome to the short Stuff. I'm Josh and

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Speaker 1: there's Chuck and we're just a couple of ros. Maybe

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Speaker 1: we're doing a couple of bras hanging out doing our thing,

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Speaker 1: talking about cool stuff, and that makes the short stuff

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Speaker 1: because it's a short version of that. That's right, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about divorcing your parents today. Shout out to

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Speaker 1: a bunch of law firms and law schools for this one. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Blacks Law Dictionary love to know, uh, Cornell Law School

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Speaker 1: in the Virga Law Firm. That's right, because when you're

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Speaker 1: talking about divorcing your parents, uh, well, first of all,

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Speaker 1: we can't not mention your reconcilable differences because we'll just

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Speaker 1: get too much mail. Have you ever seen it? Did?

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Speaker 1: I did not see that? This was the movie from

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Speaker 1: with the precocious young Drew Barrymore divorcing her parents, and

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Speaker 1: I think one of them was Ryan O'Neill, Right, who

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Speaker 1: was the other Shelley Long? Oh of course? Yeah? So

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Speaker 1: um that would that mean that she was fresh off

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Speaker 1: Does does seem like that, doesn't it. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: that actually happen. Yeah, it totally does happen. They don't

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Speaker 1: call it divorcing your parents, but it's actually, um, it's

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Speaker 1: a legal proceeding called, um, the emancipation of a minor.

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Speaker 1: I think kids on the playground probably call it divorcing

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Speaker 1: your parents. Yeah, that's what i'd call it. Todd divorced

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Speaker 1: his parents. Did you hear that? Yeah, I would totally

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Speaker 1: say that. Uh. Yeah. But legal emancipation, that is the

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Speaker 1: the legal term when a child basically steps forward and

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Speaker 1: age of legal majority. Uh. And each state has their

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Speaker 1: it could be eighteen years old that you're a legal

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Speaker 1: far as when you can emancipate. Uh. Most states is

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Speaker 1: because It's a very common thing in the movie industry

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Speaker 1: it just makes things a lot easier sometimes, um for

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Speaker 1: much fewer legal rights than you do as an eighteen

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Speaker 1: like if the parents break that contract, kids can say, my,

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Speaker 1: you are emancipated as a kid um you can do

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Speaker 1: what school you want to go to. UM. A lot

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Speaker 1: the film industry, some other reasons why you might want

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Speaker 1: even lawyers necessarily. But they're called guardian ad items and

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Speaker 1: And I guess technically a parent could do so, but

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Speaker 1: all this, there's another caveat Chuck. A lot of states

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Speaker 1: have labor laws, child labor laws, So you might become

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