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Speaker 1: Camp hell Anawaki is a production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: discussion of traumatic, sexual and violent content, listener discussion is advised.

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Speaker 1: I think once, maybe twice a year, people from the

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Speaker 1: state would come out to do like an inspection or something.

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Speaker 1: This is Terry, a former patient at the Annawaki North

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Speaker 1: Campus in Rockmart, the all girls facility. She remembers during

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Speaker 1: her time how the staff would handle visits from state

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Speaker 1: agencies that were meant to check on the treatment center

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Speaker 1: and how it operated with an Awake now being a

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Speaker 1: licensed medical facility, it had to be recorded that patients

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Speaker 1: were getting the proper treatment they were supposed to. And

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Speaker 1: I remember the first time when they came out, they

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Speaker 1: picked like three of us girls to be the one

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Speaker 1: to answer any questions, and so they took the rest

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Speaker 1: of the group like way way out into the woods,

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Speaker 1: like a mile out into the woods. And I can

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Speaker 1: remember when the first inspector lady came, one of the

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Speaker 1: group leaders told her the girls are out on a

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Speaker 1: work project about a mile out in the woods. I

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Speaker 1: guess they just knew that the inspector probably wasn't going

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Speaker 1: to hike out a mile. But we were available though.

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Speaker 1: They were like three of us, and we were told

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Speaker 1: even before the inspector came, if they asked if we

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Speaker 1: met with a psychiatrist, to let them know that we did,

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Speaker 1: and that we had thirty to forty five minute sessions.

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Speaker 1: At this point in time, Annawiki was sold to the

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Speaker 1: parents of its patients largely as a medical treatment center

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Speaker 1: with daily therapy. In reality, this therapy was greatly exaggerated,

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Speaker 1: often amounting to know more than a few minutes at

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Speaker 1: most with an actual therapist. I don't think my parents

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Speaker 1: realized until I got out that I really didn't get

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Speaker 1: the help that I needed. We would see a psychiatrist,

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Speaker 1: I want to say once a week. It might have

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Speaker 1: been every other week. But we would literally like get

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Speaker 1: in a line and go one after the other and

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Speaker 1: you'd only get a few minutes, and they would just

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Speaker 1: right on a clipboard and they would literally look at

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Speaker 1: their clock and say, Okay, time's up next. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it was a joke. We like going to the psychiatrist

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Speaker 1: because it gave us like a five minute break from

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Speaker 1: the heavy labor work. But I mean, we didn't even

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Speaker 1: get that much time. It was a joke. And I

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Speaker 1: do know um that my parents were charged for like

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Speaker 1: a forty five minute visit, I think is what it

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Speaker 1: was supposed to be. Thirty or forty five minutes, and

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Speaker 1: we used to laugh about it. I guess we knew

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Speaker 1: the doctors are making all this money off of us

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Speaker 1: and they're only seeing us like for a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 1: Terry says that during these visits from state officials, the

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Speaker 1: designated patients who were allowed to answer questions were to

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Speaker 1: downplay the lack of education as well as how their

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Speaker 1: time was really being spent. They told us to explain

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Speaker 1: to them that it was an owned privilege and that

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Speaker 1: some people did go to school. And then there was

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Speaker 1: another thing that we were told not to let them know.

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Speaker 1: They like encouraged us not to talk about the manual

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Speaker 1: labor that we did all day. And the only reason

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Speaker 1: why I would go along with it because I knew

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Speaker 1: it wasn't right, like to not tell them the truth

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Speaker 1: on certain things. But it was another way where I

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Speaker 1: thought I was getting brownie points, you know, because they

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Speaker 1: thought it just hit me on their good side that

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Speaker 1: looking back, that was pretty messed up because they probably

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Speaker 1: could have helped us if I had told the truth.

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Speaker 1: That that's just the way it went. Although Terry went

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Speaker 1: along within a week he's plan to hide their abuse

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Speaker 1: try to tell my parents on one of my home visits,

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Speaker 1: especially about the two counselors that I had that were

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Speaker 1: things that were going on, and how uncomfortable I was,

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Speaker 1: just barrated me. She said, you know, one of your

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Speaker 1: you're still out here, is because you're a manipulator and

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Speaker 1: what you've done um to your parents trying to make

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Speaker 1: not gonna get away with that. You know, they see

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Speaker 1: right through We see right through it. And so it

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Speaker 1: was like I was a liar, and they didn't they

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Speaker 1: that she said that I wasn't the only patient out

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Speaker 1: there trying to do that, that there were other kids

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Speaker 1: saying the same thing just so they could get out.

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Speaker 1: You know, she tried to intimidate me, saying, do you

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Speaker 1: know how serious it is to make allegations like that

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Speaker 1: about your counselors and about other girls doing these things

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Speaker 1: over the past several weeks we have received number of

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Speaker 1: very serious allegations concerning both the facility out there in

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Speaker 1: a number of individuals involved with them. It was just

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Speaker 1: a form of their therapy. They were told to do it,

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Speaker 1: and at the time he was fourteen and a half,

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Speaker 1: fifteen years old, they didn't know any better. I asked him,

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Speaker 1: why are you letting this happen? Why are you covering

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Speaker 1: up for Louis Batterer. He had no answer to that question.

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Speaker 1: Having and this sitution paid its little could be such

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Speaker 1: something and he's still going on it. An I wake you.

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Speaker 1: I'm Josh Stein and this is camp hell an Awake.

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Speaker 1: By the mid nineteen eighties, an Awaki had reached its

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Speaker 1: highest attendance numbers. Yet not only was it operating on

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Speaker 1: three different campuses Douglasville, Rock Martin, and Carabelle, it was

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Speaker 1: now taking its patients on trips to other countries. In

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Speaker 1: a board meeting from nineteen eighty three, plans for an

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Speaker 1: Antawaki University were discussed, a program that would continue on

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Speaker 1: through graduate degree status. Disruptions in the organization had started

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Speaker 1: to occur. One catalyst began with a legal dispute over

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Speaker 1: the recording rights to the songs written by the patients

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Speaker 1: you just heard from Terry. During this dispute, it was

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Speaker 1: also brought to her parents attention other wrongdoings which occurred

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Speaker 1: while her and her brothers attended, in particular that maybe

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Speaker 1: they weren't getting the treatment which their parents had been

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Speaker 1: paying for. The fact that Terry's brothers had also been

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Speaker 1: involved with the annual trip to Mexico made matters even worse.

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Speaker 1: Here's journalist Albert Edgin. At the same time, there was

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Speaker 1: a parent whose daughter had written a song about Anna

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Speaker 1: Wake and there was a complaint. There was some dispute

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Speaker 1: learned about the trips to the Mexican brothels. This cause

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Speaker 1: for alarm regarding payment to Anawaki was not a rare instance.

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Speaker 1: With an Awaki now collecting payments from its patient's insurance,

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Speaker 1: Oftentimes parents would not realize what they were actually paying

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Speaker 1: for the school. One quota number for yearly tuition to

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Speaker 1: an Awaki was thirty three thousand dollars a year in

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Speaker 1: dollars today. Receiving payment from medical insurance policies was just

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Speaker 1: one of an Awaki's multiple revenue streams. With the purchase

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Speaker 1: and Canada, and Awaki had set up a shell corporation

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Speaker 1: called Anawaki Estates. This LLC would own the real estate

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Speaker 1: and Awake had acquired and would then lease the property

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Speaker 1: to its other corporation and Awaki Incorporated in essence shifting

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Speaker 1: funds from the patients back to the owners of aniwaki Estates.

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Speaker 1: And who were the owners of the shell corporation none

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Speaker 1: other than Lewis Petter's three daughters, Tina, Rita and Marcia.

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Speaker 1: They were leasing them just like anybody else would be

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Speaker 1: leasing real estate from another company, any other business. So

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Speaker 1: the non profit was paying the profit corporation. The nonprofit

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Speaker 1: aniwaki E was paying an awaki Estates rent for lack

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Speaker 1: recall the amounts and involved there, but the ownership of

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Speaker 1: that was the three daughters. This is Frank Win. He

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Speaker 1: was the d A for Douglas County in the ninet eighties.

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Speaker 1: He says the business behind Anawaki's financial interest was largely

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Speaker 1: tied to the pattern family. Pet His daughters would go

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Speaker 1: on to marry others involved in the organization. Marcia Petter

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Speaker 1: to Bud Pedigo in a week he's main accountant, and

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Speaker 1: Rita Petter to James Henry Evans one of in a

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Speaker 1: week he's heads of management an awaki Estates. Who would

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Speaker 1: have been the name of that corporation. Anawaki Inc. Was

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Speaker 1: the not for profit or nonprofit organization that you know.

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Speaker 1: I believe most of the board of directors thought when

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Speaker 1: name of Anawaki Inc. And actually they were leasing a

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Speaker 1: lot of the facilities from Anawaki Estates. So the family

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Speaker 1: that was the big picture of the family's involvements. You

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Speaker 1: had three of them that owned the for profit corporation.

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Speaker 1: Both of his daughters were in charge of different departments,

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Speaker 1: two of his son in law's were involved. His wife

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Speaker 1: It is around this same time that some changes were

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Speaker 1: the sheriff had been Claude Abercrombie. Sheriff. Abercrumbie two had

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Speaker 1: close ties with Anna Waki, even teaching a horse breaking

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Speaker 1: after his deputy sheriff, Earl Lee, decided to run against

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Speaker 1: a known character of Douglas County Lore. Here's what Frank

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Speaker 1: Winn remembers about him. Well, Early was sheriff of Douglas

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Speaker 1: Canty when when I came along, he had a reputation

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Speaker 1: that clearly was a walking tall type of sheriff. Some

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Speaker 1: of it was very much talk. I learned the no

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Speaker 1: how obsessive he would get investigating a homicide. He couldn't

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Speaker 1: very hard. He wouldn't just jump in and arrest somebody.

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Speaker 1: He's certainly the kind of person that would not back

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Speaker 1: lot of people local from Douglasville. Pat Kirkland remembers how

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Speaker 1: Earl Lee was thought of at the time. Early has

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Speaker 1: He was the law. I mean, everybody knew that Earl

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Speaker 1: Lee is the law in Douglas County. Early was just

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Speaker 1: and everything. Of course he was you know, he was

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Speaker 1: Back several years ago, there he was, he had a

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Speaker 1: this somehow that prisoner and handcuffs committed suicide in the

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Speaker 1: back of Early's car. Now how and they had did

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Speaker 1: that happen? Earl Lee had a reputation in the county.

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Speaker 1: I think he did a lot of good for the

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Speaker 1: county and everything. But Earl Lee was an old West lawman,

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna be my way or you ain't gonna

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Speaker 1: I know that there were some a couple of instants

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Speaker 1: But I had reviewed the files when I first came along,

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Speaker 1: in retrospect, because if he was doing it since nine,

434
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: somebody notices in and the disapproval sticks in their mind.

435
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: It only took a year and a half from there

436
00:28:54,360 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: for it to fall apart. Upon returning from Mexico trip,

437
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: Sarah Tillis began asking questions to the upper management of

438
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: an Awaki. She claimed that she had been told by

439
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: one of the patients who had consistently not been given

440
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: a bet on the trip, that it was due to

441
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: Petter wanting to quote play the sex game, according to

442
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: a statement by Sarah Tillis, When this was brought to

443
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: Petter's wife, Mabel's attention, her response was that those types

444
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:30,959
Speaker 1: of matters were not reported, possibly influenced by the confrontations

445
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: by board members or issues involving receiving payment from insurance companies.

446
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: Louis Petter attempted a sale of an Awake shortly after

447
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: the Mexico trip. In according to his statement by Jim Parren,

448
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: Petter had received offers for up to thirty million dollars

449
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: for the center. The only problem was that Petter was

450
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: not willing to let an Awak's books be scrutinized. The

451
00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: deal shortly fell through. Board members were beginning to become

452
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: suspicious not just a Petter's actions, but also of how

453
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:27,719
Speaker 1: in a week's finances were being handled. Suspicions had begun

454
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: to build around in Awaki and its multiple revenue streams.

455
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: An incident would bring further scrutiny to the program on

456
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: March of that year, when a youth being evaluated for

457
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,959
Speaker 1: in Aweki treatment escaped from his Florida caseworker and fled

458
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: the property. Fourteen year old Billy Ray White disappeared into

459
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: the center's wooded surroundings. Three days later, while attempting to

460
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: steal a dump truck, White shot and killed local resident

461
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: James D. Hall with a revolver stolen from a truck

462
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: in the neighborhood. The death shocked the community, raising concerns

463
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: to Anawaki was not properly watching over what could sometimes

464
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: be dangerous patients being kept there. The whole community will

465
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: miss him because he's lived here most of his life,

466
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: sure will, Frankie Gibbons says. The killing continues to worry homeowners. Yeah,

467
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: we tried to have meanings upcoming alert systems so that

468
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: they would let us know when one was off. Doesn't

469
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: worry you when some of them get out, Yeah, we've

470
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: reported since we've been out here. We call him running

471
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: through our property, property across road rolfe and call him

472
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: I not mad and we've notifiedment Leaf for the time.

473
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: An Awaki officials had been warned months earlier that White

474
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: was a quote homicidal threat and could possibly kill without

475
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: feeling any remorse. Sheriff Earl Lee responded at the time,

476
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: I would have intensified my search for him if I

477
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: had known what they knew, but they wouldn't tell me

478
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: anything at all. Government agencies and insurance companies were both

479
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: beginning to inquire into Antawak's financial irregularities. Soon, another tragic

480
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: event would take place that would shake the foundation structure.

481
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: Bud Pedigo was Antawak's main accountant and the person who

482
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: would have to answer to anyone looking into its finances.

483
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: He was also married to Petter's daughter Marcia, both largely

484
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: involved with the inner workings of the organization. In May

485
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:46,959
Speaker 1: of Pedago was killed in an automobile accident just a

486
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: few blocks away from Antawaki. A drunk driver struck Pedigo's

487
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: car with him and his young daughter in the front seat.

488
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: His daughter thankfully lived, but Bud was not so lucky.

489
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: Carl Moore remembers being one of the first people to

490
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: be notified about Pedigo's death. I think Bud was. He

491
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: was a nice guy. He was the financial losser like

492
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: the CFO. I can't even remember how I heard about it,

493
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: but I went there. It was right almost on the campus.

494
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: I went there and the car was pushed off the road.

495
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: There was a van there that had run into him

496
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: almost ahead on wreck that hit the driver's side of

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00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: the car. When I got there, Bud was actually in

498
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: the passenger seat, and Uh, I went down there. I

499
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: didn't know why there was nobody down there. I went

500
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,479
Speaker 1: down there like I was gonna help him out, and

501
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: and he was gone. I didn't know it for a

502
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: little while. His daughter was in the car. This is

503
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: uh youngest daughter. I think she was four or five.

504
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: She had crawled out the back window of the car.

505
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: What I understand. The guy driving the van, he was

506
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: drunk and he was injured. He said, Hey, the guy

507
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 1: that's driving the van ran off through the woods, which

508
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 1: was a lie. It was actually him and I think

509
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: he was charged with it. Yeah, it was a hard thing.

510
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: Then Bud Pettigo died. Between the Mexico revelations in the

511
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 1: middle of the summer of eighty four and his death

512
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: in March, there was a lot of conversation going on,

513
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: a lot of rumors were swirling around and that encouraged

514
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: children who may have been abused to talk about it

515
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: among themselves at least. And if you think about Douglas County, well,

516
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: Douglas County is a small place, so a lot of

517
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: people began hearing about these things. All of those things,

518
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: taken together, contributed to an environment in which, in the spring,

519
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: a couple of board members started saying, we need to

520
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: see an audit, We need to see what's going on

521
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: with the money. Things that they had ignored about the

522
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: money began to become of interest to them. With a

523
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: murder and suicide both connected to an awake. Within a

524
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 1: few years time, law enforcement began to take a closer

525
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 1: look at in awake. What they would find out would

526
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: go far beyond what they ever could have imagined. Law

527
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: enforcement became aware in Douglas County of the abuse. Once

528
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: that happened, then the genie was out of the bottle.

529
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: There was no way that it was going to become

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00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: anything other than what it became. Once Sheriff Eli knew

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00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: about it, that was the end. Former d A. Frank

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00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: Winn says that he and his assistant David McDade had

533
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: begun to hear complaints about in Awake for some time,

534
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: and had even begun to keep a file of said complaints.

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00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: One afternoon, he received a visit from Sarah Tillis. It

536
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: seemed to confirm some of the suspicions when and Sheriff

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00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: Earl Lee had had m she believed that Petter had

538
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: been misleading her and the other board members, so it

539
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: wasn't just sexual. She gave me enough details that I

540
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: sat there to ten thirty with the lady that when

541
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: she walked in the office that morning, I would have

542
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: thought she was possibly a crazy lady. I had no

543
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: idea why somebody is just showing up to talk about anawake.

544
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: But she wasn't crazy enough for me to refuse to

545
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: talk to her, And she certainly immediately caught my attention,

546
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: and I didn't feel like she's crazy at all after

547
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: I got talking to her. But I was there till

548
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: late that evening, and and so the investigation that actually

549
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: started was I talked to David McDade a little bit

550
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: about some of the things that had bothered us. David

551
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: and I realized we had information that bothered us from

552
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: multiple sources. Some of the sources would have been teachers,

553
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: some of it administration, uh some of its kids that

554
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: were at an awake and now we had a board member.

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00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: So we made the decision at that point that to

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00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: ask early to start an investigation. And Earle always believed

557
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: that Lewis better was something wasn't right. Earl started working

558
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 1: so hard it was impossible for anybody to keep up

559
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: with him. An official criminal investigation and now begun to

560
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: look into the inner workings of an Awaki and follow

561
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: up on the numerous complaints against the center. But Pedico's

562
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: death would open the center to a financial audit from

563
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: the board, and fighting amongst the upper management was only

564
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: getting worse and soon they too would be answering to authorities.

565
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: Petter's empire was beginning to fall apart at the seams,

566
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: and he was going to do everything he could to

567
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 1: save himself along with it. Next time on camp held

568
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: in awaking. After Earle started talking to whoever the ones

569
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: were that he interviewed to start with, it was like

570
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: a snowball going downhill. It became overwhelming. His whole family

571
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: was involved and not awaking. If it was something to

572
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: do with the Petter family, the cooperation was minimal. We

573
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: had no way of knowing anything that was going on.

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00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: We can't talk to our parents. For the most part,

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00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: we were in this bubble. It wasn't long after that

576
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: that I went down to meet Petters at They essentially

577
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: wanted to videotape me denying everything anything sexual or inappropriate,

578
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 1: or financial or anything. He calls me him, he said,

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Speaker 1: doc Raham. I said, yes, sir, he said, we got

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Speaker 1: the s LB. Camp hell anna Waki was created and

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