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Speaker 1: Hey there, everybody. Welcome back to the Betting Pros NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Dan Harris. You can find me on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at Dan Harris Ady. We are back and better

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Speaker 1: than ever for the twenty twenty NFL season. Today, we

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Speaker 1: are going to be talking about some AFC futures, next week,

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Speaker 1: some NFC futures, and then boom, we are into week

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Speaker 1: one with me. To break it all down is Matt Parral,

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Speaker 1: host of the Betting Pros very own Daily Juice podcast

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Speaker 1: and pushing the Odds over at sports Map Radio. You

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Speaker 1: can find them on Twitter at sports Talk Matt, Matt,

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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 3: This is our what officially? This is our first time

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Speaker 3: doing a pod together since I've joined Betting Pros.

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Speaker 1: Right, so this is Are you excited, m break? Are

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Speaker 1: you excited?

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Speaker 2: Because I'm excited. I'm excited. It's great. It's so fun.

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Speaker 2: It's football, man, We're talking football. How about that?

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Speaker 1: Thank goodness. I'm not kidding. I need some football and

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Speaker 1: I need it right now. Before we get into it,

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Speaker 1: can you talk a little bit about the Deli Juice podcast,

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Speaker 1: because I mean, I know that obviously, you know I

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Speaker 1: let's do it every day and it's done for betting pros,

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Speaker 1: but it's awesome. Tell everybody a little bit about it.

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Speaker 3: Sure, we do it every day. It's a fifteen minute

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Speaker 3: podcast that drops. I'm on the West Coast, so I

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Speaker 3: drop it at about eleven eleven thirty every night, so

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Speaker 3: if you're on the East coast when you get up

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Speaker 3: And it's essentially a breakdown of games that I like

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Speaker 3: each and every day, and we're making plays. Normally there's

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Speaker 3: three to five plays in every podcast that we're making,

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Speaker 3: and we bounce around. It's not geared towards one sport,

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Speaker 3: it's not geared towards one type of betting. It's kind

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Speaker 3: of all over the place, so we have kind of

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Speaker 3: the whole field to go run around in. We can

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Speaker 3: do like first five unders in baseball, or we can

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Speaker 3: do you know, hockey overs, or we can play individual periods.

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Speaker 3: And it's just been really fun because August has been

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Speaker 3: such an incredible run with so many sports to bet

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Speaker 3: on that it's been great. I mean when we started

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Speaker 3: like UFC and NASCAR and golf and now We've got

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Speaker 3: just everything. So it's been really fun. The response has

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Speaker 3: been incredible. I can't believe how many different people are

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Speaker 1: You're international man everything.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy, all right, so many international listeners and whatnot.

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Speaker 3: So it's been the most rewarding thing I've done in

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Speaker 3: my now six year career in sports gambling and with

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Speaker 3: content creation. It's been the most rewarding thing I've done

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Speaker 3: so far, getting it off the ground as quickly as

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Speaker 3: it's just exploded in eight weeks. We just did our

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Speaker 3: fiftieth episode and it's been it's been so fun. So

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Speaker 3: it's a huge compliment to you guys. You know, you've

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Speaker 3: done a great job of publicizing it and making it

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Speaker 3: so accessible to people who go to betting pros dot com.

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Speaker 2: So it's been super fun.

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Speaker 1: That's true. I do deserve all the credit. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: appreciate I appreciate you. It was your idea, it was

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Speaker 1: my idea, You're right, but I was smart enough to

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Speaker 1: have you hosted. And yeah, it is really great. And

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Speaker 1: again it touches on all sports UFC. You know, you've

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Speaker 1: been ingrained in the sports betting universe for forever, for

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Speaker 1: you know, most of your adult life, So you really,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I don't know anything about betting

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Speaker 1: I feel like, just whatever it is, I'm so much

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Speaker 1: more informed generally, like regardless binding. So it's great, And

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you'll be talking about NFL during the year,

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Speaker 1: but we are going to be talking about the NFL

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Speaker 1: on this podcast. We'll get into a little bit more

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Speaker 1: about what we're going to be doing during the season

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Speaker 1: next week when we break down the NFC, but for now,

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Speaker 1: we're going to do the AFC preview. Now, we did

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Speaker 1: do an AFC preview, not me and Matt, but I

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Speaker 1: did an AFC preview several months ago, well before the draft.

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Speaker 1: Even so some things might have changed a little bit,

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Speaker 1: including the actual numbers that we're going to be looking at.

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Speaker 1: So we'll go division by division here, we'll talk about

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Speaker 1: what we like, what we don't like with regard to

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Speaker 1: the over unders. Now, we're going to be using the

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Speaker 1: consensus odds over at bettingpros dot com. That is the

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Speaker 1: nine with it. Okay, Hey, let's go here. Start with

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Speaker 1: the AFC East. This is our division. Okay. Matt is

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Speaker 1: a Patriots fan. I am a Jets fan. Matt despises

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Speaker 1: me which one of them, if any, the over under

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Speaker 3: And I think the Jets that I know people might go, well,

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Speaker 3: Daily Juice we gave out that. I think if you

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Speaker 3: I just think they're gonna be They'll be towards the bottom.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually surprised this doesn't move from It might have

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Speaker 1: They have a terrible schedule, as you mentioned. They're out

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Speaker 1: moved much. I get that it's juiced. You know that

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Speaker 1: you know, I get it. But yeah, that's my favorite

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Speaker 3: Well, look, I mean I think that the popular play

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Speaker 3: lot of people have faded the Patriots with nine and

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Speaker 3: a half wins, and I don't really hate that play.

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Speaker 3: If I was going to take a second play to

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Speaker 3: nine wins nine and a half.

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Speaker 2: That hulk I think matters.

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Speaker 3: I think nine and seven is legitimate record for the Patriots,

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Speaker 3: given the number of people who have opted out on

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Speaker 3: that defense. Don't a high tower and whatnot. They've drafted well,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I like it. So I think the one

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's either no play or an underplay. I don't

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Speaker 3: just there's a whole lot of problems in red flags

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Speaker 1: Matt he's a terrible, terrible coach. And I said this,

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Speaker 1: if they signed McCarthy, that's like a four year higher minimum. Right,

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Speaker 1: which is exactly what they're gonna do, right, I mean

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I agree, he's fine.

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Speaker 1: Letting him burn this whole thing to the ground. I

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Speaker 1: do like Darnold. I'm a low bullshanam. I think he's

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Speaker 1: the ofvinsive line. All right, let's move to the north here.

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Speaker 1: Raven's over under eleven and a half even on the

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Speaker 3: Look, I understand that people think that Zach Taylor is

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Speaker 3: coach football mind, not a head coach. Not right now,

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Speaker 3: too young, too much, too early, and now you're giving

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Speaker 2: To play in Joe Burrow? Who I like?

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Speaker 3: Who will be a good quarterback down the road? I'm

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Speaker 3: on the under five and a half wins with the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: I think they're going to be terrible. I mean, you

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Speaker 2: I think this is going to be a bad year

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Speaker 3: I don't think. I think everyone's expecting Joe Burrow to

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Speaker 1: I can see four games, right, four games kind of

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Speaker 1: It's not a good team now, you know, especially this year.

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Speaker 1: They have, you know, getting Jonah Williams back is going

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Speaker 1: one by one. Ravens over under eleven and a half.

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Speaker 3: Look, I think because of the continuity that the Ravens have,

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Speaker 3: it's a no play, but I would go over if

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Speaker 1: I'm okay to go over on This was just crazy

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Speaker 1: because you're like, great, I'm betting on this team to

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Speaker 1: But yeah, like you said, they got better everywhere pretty much.

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Speaker 1: And you mentioned it as the continuity. There are four

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Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting because the receiving corps, you know,

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Speaker 3: It's just I don't know what Ben's got left in

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Speaker 3: Ben Roethlisberger looks like. I guess if I had to

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Speaker 3: eight to eight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they went eight and eight last year. Man,

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Speaker 1: if Roethlisberger he doesn't have to be what he was,

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Speaker 1: You know, I really like Deanta Johnson. He's a great

431
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Speaker 1: route runner, and James Washington there. I kind of like

432
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Speaker 1: the addition of Eric Ebron. He's not my favorite tight end,

433
00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,359
Speaker 1: but I do think that adds a little dimension. And

434
00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,080
Speaker 1: they still events McDonald so again, strong defense. That's a

435
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Speaker 1: team that I kind of like to go over the

436
00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,560
Speaker 1: nine wins. I don't love it, but I lean that way.

437
00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,199
Speaker 1: And I do want to touch on the Browns eight

438
00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,840
Speaker 1: and a half because people are excited about the Browns

439
00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,680
Speaker 1: right now and not as excited as they were last year.

440
00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,080
Speaker 1: But you know, obviously Kevin Stefanski coming in, he's a

441
00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,560
Speaker 1: first year head coach, but he ran the offense in

442
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Speaker 1: Minnesota last year, and you know it works the type

443
00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,919
Speaker 1: of things he's going to do for Mayfield. They've rebuilt

444
00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:15,399
Speaker 1: the offensive line a bit, They're going to be a

445
00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,520
Speaker 1: lot of play action passes. They've got a lot of

446
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Speaker 1: good things going on. Are you in on over on

447
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Speaker 1: the eight and a half of the Browns?

448
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Speaker 3: I would bet the over if I had to, it's

449
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Speaker 3: a no play because of the fact that there's a

450
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Speaker 3: brand new coaching staff and it's Mayfield's third new offense

451
00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,480
Speaker 3: right already. Yeah, him coming in third new head coach.

452
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Speaker 3: So I mean this is really a lot of turnover.

453
00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,000
Speaker 3: It's a lot of changes for a young quarterback who

454
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Speaker 3: has to prove it this year. I mean, he's got

455
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Speaker 3: a lot of attention on him because well, he likes

456
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Speaker 3: the attention, but also because of how badly things went

457
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Speaker 3: last year for them. So I mean Obj is going

458
00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,400
Speaker 3: to have a big year. I really do think he's

459
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Speaker 3: going to step out and really show out and play well.

460
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Speaker 3: I think the addition of an offensive minded coach to

461
00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,399
Speaker 3: be the head coach is really going to work better.

462
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Speaker 3: I think a guy who's got more respect in the

463
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Speaker 3: locker room also, I think will work out better. The

464
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Speaker 3: defensive line for the brown They've invested so much draft

465
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Speaker 3: capital on that defensive line. Those guys have got to

466
00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,320
Speaker 3: play better. They've got to be the leader of that

467
00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,880
Speaker 3: defense and really reek havoc this year. And they might

468
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Speaker 3: be able to do that given the fact that teams

469
00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,439
Speaker 3: aren't able to practice. So I'm expecting the Browns to

470
00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:17,400
Speaker 3: be better. But it's mayfield and injuries and the division, right,

471
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Speaker 3: I mean, you're playing the Browns, You're playing the Steelers twice,

472
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Speaker 3: in the Ravens twice, so that's that's difficult, and you

473
00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,840
Speaker 3: could go technically zero to four in those games and

474
00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,399
Speaker 3: really put your bet in jeopardy with the road games

475
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Speaker 3: and the other non division games that they've got. So

476
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Speaker 3: I would bet the over, but I'm not. I wouldn't

477
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Speaker 3: do it just because I'm I'm concerned about a new

478
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Speaker 3: head coach coming in and not having his system in place.

479
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Speaker 1: Yeah, again, it's a lean over for me. I'm not

480
00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,919
Speaker 1: super excited about it. And obviously they're already dealing with

481
00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,280
Speaker 1: a pretty big injury in their secondary with Greedy Williams.

482
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Speaker 1: So it is something though, where you know, I'm I'm

483
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Speaker 1: I was optimistic lass Yard. I was kind of buying

484
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Speaker 1: into it, and obviously it was a complete disaster. I

485
00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,680
Speaker 1: like the addition of Austin Hooper too. I don't think

486
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Speaker 1: Hooper is really an elite tight end athletically at the

487
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Speaker 1: very least, but I think adding him within Joker, you

488
00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,200
Speaker 1: know they're gonna run a lot of two tight end sets,

489
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Speaker 1: So I do think that the offense is going to

490
00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,480
Speaker 1: be pretty efficient and it's gonna suit Baker well. If

491
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,120
Speaker 1: again he can everybody can focus, and they can get

492
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Speaker 1: off to a good start again. It's one of these

493
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Speaker 1: teams where if you get off to a bad start

494
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,320
Speaker 1: like last year, things could just go south really quickly.

495
00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,520
Speaker 1: So I think getting off to a fast start is

496
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Speaker 1: important for them. Let's go into the south here. This

497
00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:25,080
Speaker 1: is an interesting division. Colts over under nine just toward

498
00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,679
Speaker 1: the over minus one seventeen even on the under, Titans

499
00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,680
Speaker 1: over under eight and a half over is minus one

500
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Speaker 1: thirty plus one oh seven on the under, Texans over

501
00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:35,840
Speaker 1: under seven and a half, minus one oh six on

502
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Speaker 1: the over, minus one fifteen on the under, and the

503
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,359
Speaker 1: Jaguars over under four and a half, minus one thirty

504
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,080
Speaker 1: on the over even on the ender. What do you

505
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Speaker 1: think here?

506
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Speaker 2: All right?

507
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Speaker 3: I think you and I might be on the same

508
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Speaker 3: page here because this was another Daily Juice gave a

509
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Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago. I love the Titans here and

510
00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 3: the Titans over eight and a half wins. I just

511
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 3: think this is a team that, after they got the

512
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,200
Speaker 3: taste of it last year, going on a deep playoff run.

513
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Speaker 3: I think Henry getting his new contract is big. He

514
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,679
Speaker 3: wants to out there and prove it. I like the

515
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,120
Speaker 3: receiving corps a lot. The defense is Stiller and Mike

516
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 3: Vrabel I think is coming into his own.

517
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 2: He might be the.

518
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:11,160
Speaker 3: Best Patriot Tree Belichick Tree disciple. And he didn't coach

519
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 3: at a Belichick he played under him, which is the

520
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,479
Speaker 3: big difference between him and everybody else that's come through

521
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,439
Speaker 3: the Belichick tree in the Belichick regime.

522
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Speaker 2: If you will. In New England, I am bullish on

523
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:21,920
Speaker 2: the Titans this year.

524
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I like him too.

525
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:24,480
Speaker 2: I do.

526
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Speaker 1: And again, this is one of these teams where you've

527
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,440
Speaker 1: got continuity, and that is a huge thing coming in.

528
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,160
Speaker 1: Same head coach, offensive coordinator, quarterback, wide receiver one, wide

529
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Speaker 1: receiver two. I love AJ Brown. I really let you know.

530
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Speaker 1: We do fantasy obviously, so AJ Brown is one of

531
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Speaker 1: my guys. Another guy that we work with loves John

532
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Speaker 1: new Smith, who I agree. He's very athletic, talented. They

533
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 1: made Henry happy. He's going to be able, you know

534
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Speaker 1: with the deal, they're going to run it. I like

535
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Speaker 1: Ryan Tannell, you know, is he going to be as

536
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 1: efficient as he was last year? No, because you can't

537
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 1: possibly be that efficient as he was last year. But

538
00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 1: he's a very solid NFL quarterback, can do what they

539
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,160
Speaker 1: want to do. So I do like them a lot,

540
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 1: especially at eight and a half now. The Colts were

541
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Speaker 1: at eight and a half earlier in the offseason. I

542
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Speaker 1: like that. What do you think about the Colts because

543
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 1: I'm I'm pretty bullish on the Colts prospects this here

544
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 1: as well.

545
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, all right, so look at you.

546
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 3: You're bringing in Philip Rivers to come in to replace

547
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,679
Speaker 3: a quarterback that Jacoby Brissett was they thought was going

548
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:19,879
Speaker 3: to be the answer, and he turned out to be

549
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 3: not the answer. He was good in the beginning and

550
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 3: then not very good at the end. So they bring

551
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 3: in a guy who has one or two years left.

552
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 3: But Rivers is going to play because he wants to

553
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 3: keep going and he wants to prove he's got a

554
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,639
Speaker 3: lot left in the tank. It's much similar to Brady

555
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 3: and where Brady is in terms of okay, it's a

556
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 3: proven year, right, Okay, how good were you? He? I mean,

557
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 3: Rivers has a Hall of Fame career, He's got a

558
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,399
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame resume, but he doesn't have that championship

559
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,199
Speaker 3: on his finger and he wants it desperately. This is

560
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 3: a team with an insane offensive line, a very good

561
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 3: running game, a good receiving corps, and I mean, you

562
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,399
Speaker 3: look at some of the games. The Colts are very

563
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,199
Speaker 3: fun team to bet on every week because they do

564
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,479
Speaker 3: a great job of covering the spread. They're very good

565
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 3: against the spread. And this is supposed to be Andrew

566
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 3: Luck's team, so it was built for a passing quarterback

567
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,159
Speaker 3: like Philip Rivers, and the defense took a couple of

568
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 3: nine steps forward last year. I love the coaching staff.

569
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 3: The continuity is there from the coaching staff perspective, even

570
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 3: though it's a new team, a new quarterback for this team.

571
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Speaker 3: But I mean, if I had to bet it, I

572
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,880
Speaker 3: would bet the over. And I can't wait to watch

573
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 3: these Titans and Colts games because I think the Texans

574
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 3: are in trouble and I think these two teams are

575
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 3: going to do war this year for this division.

576
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love the Colts. I really did I have

577
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 1: all off season. I very much. You know, we joked

578
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 1: about it a lot over on the fantasy prost side

579
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 1: about what does Rivers have left? I'm firmly I don't

580
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 1: think that mid year came last year and he just

581
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 1: suddenly fell apart. It does happen. You saw Peyton Manning

582
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: obviously fall apart towards the end of his second to

583
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 1: last year, and then he just rolled right in and

584
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 1: was terrible for his final year. I don't think that's Rivers.

585
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 1: I think it was the offensive line. I've mentioned it before.

586
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 1: He was just getting bruised and battered. He can't escape

587
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,360
Speaker 1: from anybody because the guy can barely move. The offensive

588
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: line is just it's built for him. What they are,

589
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 1: the offensive line they have. You know, I love Jonathan

590
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 1: Taylor and again Marlon Mack. He's a quality back. They

591
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: still have Naim Hines. You know how Rivers likes to

592
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 1: pass to the running backs. I like their receiving core.

593
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,439
Speaker 1: I like adding Michael Pittman Junr a lot. You know,

594
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 1: you've got that Mike Williams big receiver that you can

595
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 1: sort of use.

596
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 2: I'm real.

597
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of Paris Campbell as well. Like I realized,

598
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 1: he's already kind of dealing with injury, but I think

599
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 1: this could be a big year for him. I like

600
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: Uy Hilton everything about them. They traded for the Forest

601
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: Buckner Rivers. There's no preseason games. Rivers is familiar with

602
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: the system right because Nick Sirianni and Frank Reich, He's

603
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 1: played under them. He knows that this is a team

604
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,640
Speaker 1: that I really really like. So I think I leaned.

605
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Speaker 1: I mean ten wins is a big number, like that

606
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 1: is something that I think casual betters don't really think

607
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: about that much. They're like, oh yeah, sure, ten wins,

608
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 1: Like a lot of things have to go right for

609
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Speaker 1: you to getst ten wins necessarily, but I do.

610
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Speaker 2: I'm really I like you.

611
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Speaker 1: I'm excited to see the cults on the time.

612
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Speaker 3: Well the running game too. I mean, I mean, I

613
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 3: think through the draft they added talent. I mean I

614
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 3: just think early they may not need much at a

615
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 3: Rivers right just to turn the ball over, just you know,

616
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 3: pick up third and sixes and let you know, get

617
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 3: get to get the team in the right play, you know,

618
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 3: be able to recognize defenses, which you know he can do,

619
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Speaker 3: you know, switch into running plays and find the gaps

620
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 3: and find the place to put the football with you know,

621
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 3: your talented offensive line. I just think that that's why

622
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 3: early they could get off to a very quick start,

623
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Speaker 3: a very good stot because of their running game.

624
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not the greatest schedule that they have. I mean,

625
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 1: I don't really think anybody in the South has it,

626
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, I really think they can go to toe

627
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 1: to toe with anyone. They're not as good as the Ravens,

628
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 1: They're not as good as the Chiefs, but really other

629
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: than that, especially again, Taylor is going to be an

630
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: absolute monster. I mean, I don't know when that's gonna

631
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: happen this year, but by the end of the year

632
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 1: running behind that offensive line.

633
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Speaker 2: Do you like him Rookie of the Year?

634
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think I do. It's either him

635
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 1: or you know, Clyde Edwards Hilaire, who's now got the

636
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: clear road to go in Kansas City because of Damian

637
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: Williams opting out. But yeah, I don't know, man, I

638
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: think in the beginning, I think what could hold him

639
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 1: back is at in the beginning, I do think that

640
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: Marlon Mack is going to factor in more than people realize.

641
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 1: Now there are these reports going out and be like, oh,

642
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: he looks really good in camp and stuff like that.

643
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,199
Speaker 1: I always thought that's what was.

644
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Speaker 2: Going to be.

645
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 1: You're not going to turn it over immediately, You're just

646
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: not now with no preseason games. But I do think

647
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: that by the end of the year, Taylor is going

648
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 1: to be an absolute monster. I have futures on Kishan

649
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: Vaughn winning Rookie of the Year, so I think those

650
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: are not no, not nice. That's not gonna work out

651
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: for us. I don't think giving the Bucks and given

652
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: how Rojo is looking, you mentioned the Texans, the Texans

653
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 1: to me are a team. I always think that Texans

654
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: should go under and then they somehow managed to sort

655
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: of pull it out. Are you on the under here

656
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 1: on seven and a half or.

657
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:29,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, if I had to be, I mean, look at

658
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 3: so you have a quarterback and head coach Continuity's standpoint, right,

659
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 3: But I think there's some real problems inside that locker room.

660
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 3: And Bill O'Brien, he's from my hometown, so I always

661
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 3: preference this because I hate crapping on the guy, so

662
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 3: I want him to do well, and I've followed him

663
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 3: for years, whether it be with the quarterback coach of

664
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 3: the Patriots and now head coach of the of the

665
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 3: Houston Texans. I just think the move to get rid

666
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 3: of Nuke Edwards Newtonuk Hopkins was a huge mistake, and

667
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 3: I just think you don't trade away a DeAndre Hopkins ever,

668
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 3: and you are. You have a quarterback that wants a

669
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 3: new contract who's watching everyone else get paid, and he

670
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 3: wants to get paid, and there's questions as to whether

671
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 3: or not your coach, slash GM wants to pay him.

672
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 3: And I think that's a huge issue and a huge problem.

673
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 3: I just think JJ Watt getting hurt too consistently. You know,

674
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 3: every year he's getting banged up. He's getting older as well.

675
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 3: I don't like the Texans this year at all.

676
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 1: Neither do I. And it's gonna really piss me off

677
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 1: when they go ten and six and win the division.

678
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 3: It happened, right, It's not happened. Not going ten and six.

679
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 3: They're not going to be in this division. They're not

680
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 3: good enough to contend with both the Texans, the Titans

681
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 3: or the Cult.

682
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: So right there, that's why they're not going ten and six.

683
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: And tell you right now, I completely believe you, and

684
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 1: I think that every year that's some other good out

685
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 1: of curiosity. Four and a half a ridiculous number for

686
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: the Jaguars under or over if you had to go, If.

687
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 3: I had to go, I'd go over just because it's

688
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 3: you never know. It's pro football, so it's it's hard

689
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 3: to go, you know, four and twelve. But I mean

690
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 3: I wouldn't bet it. I mean, who's their quarterback? You know,

691
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 3: is Ardner Minshew actually a good quarterback or not?

692
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 2: I don't know.

693
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: I like him, I'll be honest. I kind of like him.

694
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: I really do. And not just because he dresses like

695
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 1: the way I feel inside, you know what I mean?

696
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: I really I do like him. Again, he was quietly quality.

697
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: What I like about him again, really really good on

698
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,479
Speaker 1: deep passing. He was the best deep passer, even though

699
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: he doesn't have that strong of an army. He was

700
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: the best deep passer in the NFL last year, the best.

701
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: He had the best passer rating on passes that traveled

702
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: over twenty yards. And I like, you know, he can

703
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: he can extend plays with his leg. I'm not saying

704
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: I would hitch my wagon, you know, to him for

705
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: the rest of my franchise, but in terms of what

706
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 1: he's able to do. And that's one of the reasons

707
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: why I think I lean towards the over. Maybe I

708
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: don't like their defense, but I do think that their

709
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: offense is going to be fairly capable under minshe you.

710
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 3: Know, yeah, run the ball more hopefully. I mean I

711
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 3: hate the coaching staff. I just I just think that

712
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 3: there's so many issues there. And you know, did they

713
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,479
Speaker 3: three years ago? That team was tremendous. I mean, there

714
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 3: was just so many talented guys on that roster when

715
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 3: we thought the Jaguars finally were going to make some

716
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 3: real noise, and then just you know, so many players

717
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 3: were either cut or let go or got hurt. So

718
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 3: it's tough to be a Jaguar fan. And I still

719
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 3: think that one day that team's playing in London. So

720
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 3: you know, if I had to bet it, i'd bet

721
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 3: the over, just because it's hard to go four and twelve.

722
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: And again the Dolphins, the Bengals, the Lions, the Bears,

723
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: they're winnable games there right for them. So and it's

724
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: the NFL, like you said, above them all right, let's

725
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: hit our last division here. The Chiefs over under eleven

726
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: and a half over at minus one thirty even on

727
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: the under. The Broncos are over under seven and a

728
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: half minus one twenty five on the over, even on

729
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: the under, Chargers over under eight minus one twenty five

730
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: on the over, even on the under, and the Raiders

731
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: over under seven even on the over minus one oh

732
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: six on the under. So you made one of the

733
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: easier futures play I believe in like an early episode

734
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: of The Juice. But you like the Raiders, is that right?

735
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 3: I like the Raiders over seven wins. And after I

736
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 3: made that bet, I was talking to a sports book

737
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 3: friend of mine and I said, so, how do I feel, like?

738
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 3: How do you feel about me betting on the Raiders over?

739
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 3: And he said, what you and the rest of the town.

740
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 3: He said, oh really, he said, put it this way.

741
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 3: As of August the first, there was one book here

742
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 3: in Vegas who had not taken a single under bet

743
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 3: on the Raiders for their win total. Every single bet

744
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 3: was on the over. So when you're running with the

745
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 3: masses like that, I can't stand it, but I'm not

746
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 3: going to back off of it. Look, I think this

747
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 3: is a big year for Derek Carr. This is a

748
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 3: chance for him to show he can play inside of

749
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 3: this offense. Henry Ruggs is coming in. You have a

750
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 3: guy who could take the top off the defense. Running

751
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 3: game with Josh Jacobs is tremendous, maybe the best offensive

752
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 3: line in football. They've got a defense that needs to

753
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 3: step up and play better. But I think this is

754
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 3: a team that is poised with the talent. Look, Mike

755
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 3: Mayock is on a very good job drafting the last

756
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 3: two years. You can hate on the guy and not

757
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 3: like him. I'm a big fan. I think he's done

758
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 3: a great job. You could hate on Gruden, fine, but

759
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 3: this team just to go eight and eight. Yeah, I'm

760
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 3: going over Raiders eight and eight.

761
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't get there like I'm not going

762
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: under because I don't necessarily think they're going to win six.

763
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: But you know, this is a you know, we Tyra

764
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: Williams is not as if he was a dominant person,

765
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: but he's already dealing with the labor impair. I like

766
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: Hunter Renfro, but again, you've got rookies coming in. Rugs

767
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: Is are the type of rookie rookie wide receivers, by

768
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: the way, are they make me particularly nervous as to

769
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: how they're going to be able to divorce in this

770
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: environment right, especially because you just don't have time. Ruggs

771
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: is the one guy of all the rookie receivers that

772
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: I don't really worry about, just because again, you can

773
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: be like, hey, here's what we're going to do. Run

774
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: a five yard slant and then just go to the house.

775
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 2: Right.

776
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: You scort a touchdown on a quarter of his receptions

777
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: in college, so he is there. But you know, this

778
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: is a tough division man and their schedule. It's not

779
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: that great. It's just something where, Yeah, I don't really

780
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: love him. Is there anybody in the West then who

781
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: you think is not going to be as good as expected?

782
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:44,719
Speaker 2: Then?

783
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: Do you like the unders on any of the teams?

784
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 3: You know, I'm seeing more and more hype on the Broncos,

785
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 3: and I understand that the Broncos have drafted, but like

786
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 3: you mentioned about rookie wide receivers, you know, I think

787
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,719
Speaker 3: the Broncos eventually might be really good. Yeah, but how

788
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 3: good is Drew Locke and you're asking him to play

789
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 3: with a bunch of guys he hasn't had a chance

790
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 3: to play in.

791
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: A real game with right out of the gate. Yep,

792
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 2: So that's my worry.

793
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 3: On everyone's like, oh, Broncos over, Broncos over, and look

794
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 3: at the defense and von Miller and Bubble.

795
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know.

796
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 3: I mean, to me, I would lean under on the

797
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 3: Broncos simply because you have to ask. You're asking Drew

798
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 3: Locke to get to know these guys very fast and

799
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 3: to be able to get on the same plan.

800
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: Noah faint.

801
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 3: I know there's some guys up there who put up

802
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 3: some big numbers and they got some guys coming back.

803
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 3: But I just I'm curious about continuity for that offense

804
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 3: and if you need that offense to score a bunch

805
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 3: of points, which you're going to if look at the

806
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 3: offense with the division, with the Chargers, Chiefs and the Raiders,

807
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 3: you got to score to be in contention in this division.

808
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 3: I just I don't think the I don't think the

809
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 3: Broncos are there yet. I mean eventually if Lock's the

810
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 3: guy the next year, but I would go under this year.

811
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: Could not agree more. It's not something where I'm running

812
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: out to be like, oh, give me the give me

813
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: the under on the Broncos because they could easily surprise.

814
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: Their defense is legitimate. I love Jerry Judy, I really do.

815
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have an incredibly bright future and

816
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: he could be great this year. It is Lock for me,

817
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: and I don't want to say that he'll never develop

818
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: into you know, Areas only won four and one last year.

819
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't do anything to really get there.

820
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: I was not impressed with them. And again continuity. It's

821
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: a new offensive coordinator coming in here, right with Pat Trummer.

822
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: You've you've got a new system. You've got rookie wide

823
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: receivers that are already dealing with an injury to Hamdler.

824
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon. Fine, but their running game was you know,

825
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's I'm not Melvin Gordon doesn't move

826
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: the needle for me. And obviously, you know, when you're

827
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: talking over unders, you don't really care that much about

828
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: running backs. That's not really what does it? But you know,

829
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: to me, I don't know, man, I'm not buying this either.

830
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: It's just not a team that I really want to

831
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: invest in. What about the Chargers though, because the Chargers

832
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: are an interesting team to me? I love their defense.

833
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: I think to Rod Taylor, not a great quarterback, but

834
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: certainly more than capable twenty two and twenty as a starter.

835
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: They're gonna have a good running game with Austin Eckler.

836
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: They've got they drafted Kelly, they've got Jackson. Their receivers

837
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: still are there with you know, Mike Williams now dealing

838
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: with an injury. But Keenan Allen got Hunter Henry is

839
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: a good head end. I think they're gonna be able

840
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: to play conservatively, lean on their defense, lean on their

841
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: run game. Get enough there. I kind of like the

842
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: Chargers going over the eight wins. What are you think?

843
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 2: Right?

844
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 3: If you could tell me the Chargers stay healthy, I'll

845
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 3: buy it. This team can't stay healthy. I mean they

846
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 3: get hurt every year. They have catastrophic injuries, massive injuries.

847
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 3: I just every time I feel like I'm backing the Chargers,

848
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 3: they something really horrible happens and they lose a player,

849
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 3: or they lose the you know, a quarterback or starting

850
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 3: left tackle or you know, strong safety.

851
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 2: It's just it's really.

852
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: An amazing Like, Well, I like the Chargers, but the

853
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: Chargers are an injury team. So you're gonna have seventy injuries.

854
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 3: So I mean, so I can't bet the over because

855
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 3: I don't trust it. I mean I would lean towards

856
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 3: the over, but they've got the talent Tyrod. I mean,

857
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 3: here's the other question. How many games is Tyrod Taylor

858
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 3: playing this year? Because if they lose Herbert, there's gonna

859
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 3: be a lot of pressure to play Herbert. So I

860
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 3: don't know in terms of like if you're zero and

861
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 3: four to start hypothetically, like just say the awful start, Well,

862
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 3: then why are you playing Tyrod Taylor? Just play Herbert?

863
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 3: I mean the year's lost anyway. Just give him a

864
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 3: year to get ready, to get used to playing NFL football,

865
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 3: and then have him good to go for next year

866
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 3: when there's fans and stands and whatnot. So, I mean

867
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 3: it's interesting watching hard knocks and watching how how tough

868
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 3: of a time he's having adapting to the NFL and

869
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 3: taking you know, snaps under center, and the fact that

870
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 3: he can't his cadence is wrong, like right, getting scolded

871
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 3: about not being able to hike the football. Right, He's

872
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 3: a little scary for a guy with a first round pick.

873
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 3: But I don't know how long that job is going

874
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 3: to be Tyrod Taylor's. So that's why I'm also a

875
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 3: little afraid of betting the over.

876
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I honestly I think he starts the whole year.

877
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, you are correct. If he starts owing four,

878
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think they're going to If he

879
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: starts owned four, then maybe you could see it. But

880
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 1: I think I think, really, it's just not a good

881
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: idea to throw a guy or whatever you know, the

882
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: team is doing for that year, to throw him into

883
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: an NFL team when he's not ready to go. And

884
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: I think that Herbert is not ready to go. I

885
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: don't think he's going to be ready to go by

886
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: week five. I don't think he's going to be ready

887
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: to go by week eight.

888
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 2: I know he's a project, right.

889
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: He's a project. So let him sit on the on

890
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: the bench for a year and learn. And yeah, obviously

891
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: if they get injured like they do every year, of course,

892
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: like what are you gonna do about that? They got

893
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: a lot of winnable games. And remember, even with how

894
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: bad they were last year, even with how bad Philip

895
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: Rivers played, very easily could have had a decent year

896
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: if they just flipped the script a little bit on

897
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: the one score games. Right, they just lost tons of

898
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: one score games. So you know, to me, with that defense,

899
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: you know you've got botha and you've got Ingram Lamal Joseph.

900
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, right now, I think to Rod, Teller

901
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: is going to start the whole year, and I think

902
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: that in the end they're going to be a pretty

903
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: decent team, so I kind of like them. Well, on

904
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: the over, I do get the concern.

905
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 3: Noow, your point about losing one score games is interesting

906
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 3: because if you remember a couple of years ago, the

907
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 3: Raiders won a bunch of one score games and that

908
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 3: caused everyone to kind of hammer on the under the

909
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 3: under for their winteral I think it was like seven

910
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 3: and a half or eight and a half, and they

911
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 3: didn't come in everything in six and ten because of

912
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 3: all the one score games they had won the year before.

913
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 3: And I think you can You're right. I think you

914
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 3: go the other way here, where if you lose a

915
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 3: bunch of one score games, just math, just odds, just

916
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 3: you know the way sports work, that it evens out.

917
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 3: And so next year, this coming year, they win a

918
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 3: bunch of those games, they win a bunch of those games.

919
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 3: Most likely they're sitting right behind the Chiefs and probably

920
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 3: in a wildcard spot and playing in a wildcard game,

921
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 3: and we'll see what happens with how they'll perform in

922
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 3: the playoffs. But either it's Tyrod or some Herbert or whatnot.

923
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 3: But right, I think this team. This is why I

924
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 3: like Hard Knocks, because I wasn't sure about Anthony Lennon,

925
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 3: and I wasn't sure if the team liked him all

926
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 3: that much and wanted to play hard for him. And

927
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 3: watching Hard Knocks really has changed my opinion about him

928
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 3: in Los Angeles, and I do think that team is

929
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 3: all in on him, and I do think if they're healthy,

930
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 3: there'll be a team to watch.

931
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. I kind of like what they're doing. And again,

932
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: remember they were losing those games. They weren't healthy, and

933
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: they're never healthy, as you sort of mentioned. So now

934
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: you combine health, you flip the script a little bit.

935
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: I think they can get past hay Wins. Let's finish

936
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: up with the Chiefs again, like the Ravens. Another big number,

937
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: like the Ravens, another team that's just like, okay, you

938
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: want continuity. I mean, the Chiefs are legitimately identical the

939
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: last year, except that they've basically replaced Damian Williams with

940
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 1: Clyde Edwards Hilaire. So eleven and a half. Is this

941
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: one where you'd be like, if you are forcing me

942
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,959
Speaker 1: to bet, you'd go over or is this one if

943
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: you'd you know, shyway, given.

944
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 3: The number, look in the pandemic, they may go fifteen

945
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 3: and one, right, I mean they might.

946
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't.

947
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 3: This is I look at this team and I see

948
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 3: the Patriots of two thousand and seven, and I just

949
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 3: see an absolute offensive buzz saw that it doesn't really

950
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 3: matter until the playoffs to expose some of their weaknesses.

951
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 3: And I think there are weaknesses Like the seven Patriots,

952
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 3: there were weaknesses on that defense, and there are weaknesses

953
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 3: on that defense still for the Chiefs. And I do

954
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,399
Speaker 3: think they're going to be in salary cap jail very

955
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 3: soon for all the big deals that they have done.

956
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 3: And I do think that if there is a drop

957
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 3: in the salary cap due to the COVID in the

958
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 3: pandemic and they have to drop it down, that they'll

959
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 3: be cutting or trading players. But for twenty twenty, they're

960
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 3: the best team in football and it's not even a debate.

961
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 3: And I don't really see you know, they may drop

962
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 3: a game or two games, but yeah, they're going over

963
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 3: that number in my mind.

964
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean too, I don't think they've gone under

965
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: their win total under Andy Reid. I think I saw

966
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: that stat somewhere. I can't remember where it is whoever

967
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 1: put it out, Sorry about that, But I think since

968
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: Andy Reid got to the Chiefs. They've gone over their

969
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: win total every year. I can't verify that, but I

970
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 1: read that somewhere. Here's you know, for me, the one

971
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: thing that we didn't talk about, by the way, with

972
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 1: the Ravens and the Chiefs, there's one by this year, Matt, right,

973
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: there's one playoff by you don't have the top two seats,

974
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,919
Speaker 1: right right, So if you've got the Ravens and you've

975
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: got the Chiefs, even if they win their division, and

976
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: even if they're cruising to the top two seats, they

977
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 1: got to keep going, you know what I mean. They

978
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: may be thirteen, you know, thirteen to two heading into

979
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: that final week and be like, shoot, we don't have

980
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: the buy right now, you know what I mean. They

981
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: may be going full boar the entire year just to

982
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: get that one locked up. So I think that's a

983
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: little extra motivation when you're going. But I agree, I

984
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: think it's over you know.

985
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, I just think it's a team where they

986
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 3: are doing things offensively. In bringing in Edwards Hilaire as

987
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 3: well is going to be another addition, I mean, another

988
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 3: step forward for that offense. Young guy with tons of

989
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 3: tread on the tire and catch the football and a bowling

990
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 3: ball to run through that offensive line. I just think

991
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 3: that they are doing things right now that it's going

992
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 3: to make it so difficult for teams to stop them.

993
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 3: And look, Terry Kill's injury is a little scary, and

994
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 3: I was going to recommend on betting pros. I need

995
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 3: to see him if I can, like run a play

996
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 3: a game because Week one, on Thursday Night against the Texans,

997
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 3: the Chiefs are laying ten and I think they're going

998
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 3: to destroy the Texans by like thirty.

999
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 2: But to me, Tery Kill to be healthy in those games.

1000
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 3: But I think folks are going to be coming in

1001
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:34,959
Speaker 3: and I think the sports books are going to need

1002
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,919
Speaker 3: whoever the Chiefs are playing every single week this year.

1003
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, absolutely, They're going to be an incredibly public team.

1004
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: And you know the thing is, again you saw sharing

1005
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 1: the playoffs. That was my favorite live betting experience, by

1006
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: the way, is when they fell behind the Texans and

1007
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: just waiting for both games. You knew, you knew what

1008
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: was going to happen in game. You're just no, no, no, no,

1009
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: wait for it, wait for it, wait for it. You

1010
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: knew the odds. Eventually we're going to go where you

1011
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: could sort of Fire one off and yeah, man, I

1012
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: don't know this. I gotta be honest by see you

1013
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: talk betting every day on the podcast and on your

1014
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: radio show. This is like my first chance to have

1015
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: really gotten into a discussion about it. This is again

1016
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: the juice is flowing, you know what I mean? We

1017
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: get two weeks from today, recording this on Thursday, two

1018
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 1: weeks from today opening night. I'm so excited.

1019
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 2: Thank you, Chiefs playing ten, Chiefs laying ten.

1020
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: Dude, come on, Tyreek, Hi'll be healthy so we could

1021
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: go all in on it. Thanks for coming on, man.

1022
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: I can't wait to talk about it more. Next week

1023
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: we'll talk about what we're gonna be doing in season,

1024
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: but for now, I really appreciate you joining me for

1025
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: this one and it was a good time. Man.

1026
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 2: Can't wait for next.

1027
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: Week, all right, don't forget to go head over to

1028
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: bettingpros dot com check out all our consensus lines, and

1029
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: do not forget to check out the Daily Juice podcast,

1030
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: hosted by Matt Parlt, who you heard here today. It

1031
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: is a really, really good listen. I would listen to

1032
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: it even if I didn't invent the concept and have

1033
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: to get that feedback it's really great. It's every single

1034
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: day and Matt, you know, offers a lot of insight.

1035
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: We will be back next week talking about the NFC

1036
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: and then man, we are talking about Week one, ready

1037
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: to go. We'll talk to them