1 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang. On today's show, Danny Serek joins me, 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: the cornerback position is in the spotlight, and it was 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: the head coach who shine the light again. But first 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: is their heat between my co host and Will Hernandez. 5 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: It's Cardinals Cover two, episode five seventy six, and it 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: starts now Welcome to Cardinals Cover two, hitting the backfield 7 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: and Downy goes for a loss. JJ Watt Nailed at Cardinals. 8 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: Cover two is presented by Hun Day, proud partner of 9 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit acy 10 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: Cardinals dot com, Slash Podcasts. He's at the ten half 11 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: of five. He's in again. So for Harry Magic, whoa, 12 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: here's Craig Griolou. Maybe this is a little bit too 13 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: inside baseball, Danny, but I have to ask because it 14 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: was hard nuts. And notice when number seventy six, Will 15 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: Hernandez was walking not quite off the field, but he 16 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: was walking over to his other offensive lineman and had 17 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: this smirk on his face, a little side eye in 18 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: your direction and said quote, you've changed, and then kept 19 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: on walking. And I, like most of your fans and followers, 20 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: want to know is there now heat between you and 21 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: Will Hernandez? What is the backstory here? Please tell us. 22 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 1: I didn't even realize there was any sort of beef 23 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: between Will Hernandez and myself until he was doing the 24 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: same thing walking off the practice field Wednesday, because I 25 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: was waiting around to interview offensive lineman DJ Humphreys about 26 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: his new contract extension, and so I had the whole setup. 27 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: I had the box that I stand on, the microphone 28 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: in my hand, the camera and Will walked by me 29 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: and he made a similar comment to that, so you've changed, 30 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: And I was like, what are you talking about? He goes, 31 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: you interview me once? And that's it, because because I 32 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: did a sideline exchange interview with Will Hernandez in the 33 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: off season when he was signed, and I quickly was 34 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: following him off the field and I said, whoa, oh, 35 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: are you offering yourself for an interview? Because you know 36 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: that I will gladly take anybody who's going to offer 37 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: themselves up for an interview. And he started loving goes 38 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: no, no no, no, I change your mind and said no, 39 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: don't worry, I got you. Well, I got you. So 40 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: that was after practice on Thursday when he said the 41 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: same thing you've changed. I'm still figuring out the best 42 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: way to do it, but he is now at the 43 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: top of my list to do an interview with because 44 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: clearly he's interested and that doesn't happen quite often where 45 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: a player will come up to you and say, can 46 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: you please interview me? So I have to take advantage 47 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,119 Speaker 1: of any of those opportunities, and specifically an offensive lineman too. 48 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: Those are usually kind of the quieter with respects to 49 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: the media. Now not quiet amongst themselves, but when the 50 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: cameras are in front. This is a different group though, 51 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: and from the chippiness we have seen from Will Hernandez 52 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 1: the last couple of practices, I think it would be 53 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: a safe decision for me to interview him if that's 54 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: what he wants. Yes, because if there is one player 55 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: on this Arizona Cardinals team that we all hope is 56 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: in our corner, it is Will hernand Is. Whether it 57 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: was J. J. Watt on the first day of PATS 58 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: and then here on Thursday, the second day of PATS, 59 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: not as chippy, not as feisty of a practice, but 60 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: there was big Number seventy six mixing it up with 61 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: Dennis Gardeck, a little more grabbing than anything. But certainly 62 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: something was said or someone got under the skin of 63 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: someone else and will Hernand is I'll say this, Danny, 64 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: he will not back down to anyone, regardless of stature. J. J. 65 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: Watt All Pro, Dennis Gardeck, you know, hopefully becomes that 66 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: at some point I thought that he won't back down. 67 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that anybody could push him down, to 68 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: be quite honest, from what we've seen, it's not again, 69 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: this is not like punches being thrown teams, more like 70 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: continuing the play a little longer than you should and 71 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: words are probably said. But I will say the difference 72 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: of Thursday's practice compared to the first padded practice on Tuesday, 73 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: when there were a couple scuffles, the coaches had whistles 74 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: ready and it was pretty immediate of somebody's in your face, 75 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: blow the whistle, break it up, break it up, break 76 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: it up. Because we heard from head coach Cliff Kingsbury, 77 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: we heard from his players, there's so much on the line, 78 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 1: especially with one fewer preseason game now for these players, 79 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: these younger players, to take advantage of these reps and 80 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: not waste practice time. That it was clear and Thursday's practice. 81 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: There's no time for that. The whistles were blown immediately, 82 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: by the way, just real quick for the record, Will 83 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: Hernandez six three thirty two. So yeah, you definitely want 84 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: him in your course. I should definitely interview him. That's 85 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: what he wants with respects to Thursday's practice. Though. It's 86 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: a good eye on your part, Danny, because yes, a 87 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: little bit more whistles. But we actually had officials referee 88 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: Sean Hockey Lee and his crew in attendance Thursday. And 89 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: I think because it's traditionally what's happened during Cardinals training 90 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: camp powered by Cox is they will be here for 91 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: a couple of days and then be a part of 92 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: the red and white practice. Again, it's their involvement in practice, 93 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: it's their involvement in meeting rooms, whether it's offense, defense 94 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: or individual position groups. Hey, point of emphasis, question and answer. 95 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: This is what we look at. What do you guys 96 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: have questions for us? So it's a good idea and 97 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: I think most NFL teams do this, but typically yearly 98 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: the officials will make their tour of training camps. This 99 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 1: is not just good practice for the players and the 100 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: coaching staff on what will likely get called and working 101 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: on penalties. It's also good practice for the referees for 102 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: their staff as well, and it was really interesting. I 103 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: do like the fact that they're in meeting rooms and 104 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: getting to answer questions because where you and I were 105 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: standing on the sideline after practice on Thursday, we watched 106 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: quarterback McCoy and he was talking to every single referee 107 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 1: out there, and it looked like he was trying to 108 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: display something like he was clapping his hands and just 109 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: kind of it seemed like asking some questions about calls 110 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: that were being made, and it was energetic, it seemed 111 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: like from both parties of explaining that or you know, 112 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: giving their answer to whatever Colt McCoy's question was. But 113 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: it's really interesting to see them engage and really take 114 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: advantage of that resource that they have of getting those 115 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: questions answered before the season starts. Josh Miles was over 116 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: there as well, and I think he might have gotten 117 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: called for a false starts or wasn't quite lined up properly. 118 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: Maybe he was too far off the line of scrimmage. 119 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: And again, you don't want these mistakes to happen, but 120 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: better now here in August versus the regular season and 121 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: get it corrected now versus later. Absolutely same with us. 122 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: But we don't make mistakes, No, we don't. We do 123 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: not make mistakes. Not a very easy transition here, but 124 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: we do have to acknowledge what has happened with this 125 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals team off the field. Don't know too much 126 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: with what's going on with respects as far as details, 127 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: but we did have a chance to hear from head 128 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: coach Cliff Kingsbury regarding the arrest of Hollywood Brown. He 129 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: was at practice on Thursday, still not doing a whole 130 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: heck of a lot as they slowly build him up. 131 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: But it certainly is, in the words of Kingsbury, an 132 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: issue that needs to be addressed, and it was, and 133 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: there was I'm sure a pretty strong message sent not 134 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: only to mister Brown, but the entire team. Right it 135 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: was Holly Brown was the reports are saying, driving from 136 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: his home to practice Wednesday morning, just after seven on 137 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: the highway, got pulled over for speeding. And you're right, 138 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: Kingsbury said, you know, he's had that private talk with 139 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: Brown and talked with a team and understanding that that 140 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: can't be done, first of all from a safety aspect, 141 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: not even as a football player, but just you know, 142 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: being safe for yourself, for those that are on the 143 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: road with you, and and you know also for your 144 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: role on the team. Absolutely, you know you need to 145 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: be safe. And that's what Kingsbury said. First thing he 146 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: did was to make sure he was safe, he was okay, 147 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: and he got him out on the field. And I 148 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: that was a question that was asked to kingsburying the 149 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: press conference, and I get it. But you know, at 150 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: this point they're not going to not put him on 151 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: the field because of that. They're they're still trying to 152 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: work him back from that hamstring that he's coming off of. 153 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: And so Kingsbury said, the goal is still the same 154 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: to get him doing individual drills by the end of 155 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: the week and then by Monday early next week have 156 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: him doing team stuff. Let me ask you this, would 157 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: you have guests or predicted or even maybe made a 158 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: little bit of a side wager on the fact that 159 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: Max Williams beats Hollywood Brown onto the practice field here 160 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: in training camp. Because I'll say this Thursday, I was 161 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: not expecting the press press release from the Arizona Cardinals 162 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: saying that Max Williams had been activated off the physically 163 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: unable to perform list and not only was he activated 164 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: to any but he was dressed full pads, didn't participate 165 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: in team drills, but was out there during position groups 166 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: and taking part in a lots of practice. It is 167 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: a good thing that I don't bet, because I would 168 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: not have bet that Max Williams would have been activated 169 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: this early in camp. It was really interesting. I was 170 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: standing right behind where the tight ends were doing individual 171 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: drills at the beginning of practice, and he's still wearing 172 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: a pretty significant knee brace. It covers most of his leg, 173 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: like from above his knee down to his ankle, essentially 174 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: wearing a lot of extra padding. How you would expect 175 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 1: him to look is how he looked. He was going 176 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 1: second behind zach Ertz and every drill, and he wasn't 177 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: just going through the motions. I mean, he was going 178 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: through the drills. He was making the cuts, you know, 179 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 1: catching passes. He just looked slow, which is what you 180 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: would expect from somebody who tore their ACL and has 181 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: now had multiple surgeries. We've learned in Week five against 182 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine ers last year or so, 183 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 1: it seems to have been a pretty gnarly injury. So 184 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: he was out there and he was doing work and 185 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: he again he didn't look bad. It's what you would expect. 186 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 1: He just looked slow, but he was getting encouraging words 187 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: as he was going through the rep. So hopefully we'll 188 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: get to see him more, maybe even every practice at 189 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: this point. I mean, you're right, he wasn't doing team stuff, 190 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: so that that's what's interesting to me is and he 191 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: wasn't doing any of the blocking drills. He was just 192 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: catching passes, but he was not in a pass sets 193 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: going against together. He was, Yes, it was all individual 194 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: So I wonder if that's the point of activating him 195 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: at this point, is to slowly ramp him up. But 196 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: I don't think I truly believe that the fact that 197 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: he has been activated off the Populist this early means 198 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 1: that we're going to see him in the preseason from 199 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: at least this first practice. That does not necessarily seem 200 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: reasonable to me. I could be wrong. I've been wrong before, 201 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: so we'll see. But I was definitely surprised you get 202 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: that press release, seeing that he was activated week two 203 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: of training camp. It makes now all of a sudden 204 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: at least to me and we did not get a 205 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 1: chance based off all of the news and we'll get 206 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: to some of it. As far as the injury updates, 207 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: Kingsbury was not asked about Max Williams, which is a 208 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: slip on our part, but there was just so much 209 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: going on that we kind of just lost track of 210 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,239 Speaker 1: number eighty seven. But it was good to see Max Williams. 211 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 1: And this is the most I've seen him do since 212 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: that last day of mandatory mini camp because on the 213 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: sideline he was running cutting with that knee brace on. 214 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: And then you get placed on the pup list and 215 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: I was not expected to see Max Williams, maybe not 216 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: even at all here in training camp. But the fact 217 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: that he was activated one of two things. One can 218 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: he not do? It is he at the point, Danny 219 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: where there's nothing more he can do on the rehab side, 220 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: to where he is now all right, let's do football 221 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 1: activity activate you meaning you're able to go through walk 222 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: through position drills and see how you're doing. And then 223 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: two we're in August, fourth the regular seasons, a month away. 224 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: I was not expecting Max Williams to even be a 225 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: part of the conversation. Week one. Does this now slightly 226 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 1: open the door to have Max Williams perhaps being available. 227 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: I personally don't think so for week one. I think, 228 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: seeing how little we saw from him in this first practice, 229 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: how we haven't really seen any of him up until 230 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 1: this point, truly, I would imagine that even though he's activated, 231 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: we're not going to see him every day. I think 232 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: it's you bring up a good point. He's probably done 233 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: enough straight rehab to where it is time for football stuff, 234 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: but his body's going to be so sore and that 235 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: knee is going to feel so different than it would 236 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: after just a normal day of rehab. So maybe that's 237 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 1: a reason of bringing him off that poplist as early 238 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: as they did, is maybe he's only going to practice 239 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: those two or three padded practices a week and see 240 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: how much they can ramp up. But my gut tells 241 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: me that he will not be ready for week one, 242 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 1: especially if you like the way that Tray McBride is 243 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: progressing and the way that Tray McBride is blocking, because 244 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: that's the key that you miss without having Max Williams. 245 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: Zach Ertz is a great tight end. He is much 246 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: more of a threat catching the ball than he is blocking, 247 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: and that's what was so great about the tandem with 248 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: Max Williams and that blocking skill that you could have 249 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: with the two of them. So if you feel confident 250 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 1: in Tray McBride, do you also have Steven Anderson who 251 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: has looked very very good. Yeah so far? OK, Yes, 252 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: I just don't see why you would push Max Williams. 253 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: Not that they would if he's not ready, but but 254 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 1: I just I don't see him being ready for week one. 255 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a progression for Max. Now Friday, how 256 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: does that knee hold up? And then into Saturday with 257 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: the day off for everyone on Sunday, But Max Williams 258 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: on the field, Trey McBride not on the field. We 259 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: found out that he has got a sore back, so 260 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: he has not practiced the past couple of days. Then 261 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: Zach Ertz left practice early with a cafe issue. Antoine 262 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: Wesley is dealing with a growing hip issue that is 263 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: still being evaluated. Week two, Danny all of a sudden, 264 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: As Kingsbury mentioned, this is just kind of par for 265 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: the course. This is what happens after so many days 266 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: straight days of practice. But little I wouldn't say concerning yet, 267 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: but it's just it's just noticeable the number of players, 268 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: not the vet days, but the number of in quote 269 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: unquote hurt guys. And then he's right, this is what's 270 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: going to happen. Because OTA's a mini camp. You're really 271 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: not doing much true football like you are. They have 272 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: this past week of training camp, and so this this 273 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: is par for the course. Every team is going to 274 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: have those players that get, you know, banged up early on. 275 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: I'm the same with you. I wouldn't necessarily say I 276 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: am concerned at the moment, but it's definitely something to 277 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: now keep your eye on when you're looking at that 278 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: wide receiver's room. If Antoine Wesley is going to be 279 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: out for a couple of weeks, Tray McBride, he really 280 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: didn't seem concerned, just saying it was a sore back, 281 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: just taking some rest days. But if if that's more 282 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: in zach Ertz is kind I mean, it's kind of 283 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: like a waiting game at this point of this all 284 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: kind of we just learned about this after practice, so 285 00:15:58,440 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: it's kind of like you have to wait a couple 286 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: days of zach Ertz's calf injury just a training camp thing. 287 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: He's going to miss a couple of days, you know, 288 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: he wasn't going to play a lot in the preseason 289 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: begin with like, is this really just not a big deal, 290 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: or is this a calf strain or a calf injury 291 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: or something to where it's going to nag him all year. 292 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: It's it's kind of like too soon for anyone to tell, 293 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: so I'm not concerned quite yet, but it's now definitely 294 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: something to keep your eye on. And there was one 295 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: other player mentioned in the press conference, another player who 296 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: was apparently also dealing with something on the defensive side. 297 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: Marco Wilson has got a growing issue. Did not practice 298 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: on Thursday. Was something I noticed on Wednesday. He was 299 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: getting some work on the sidelines. So and now all 300 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: of a sudden there's an issue on the defensive side 301 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: of the ball, and specifically in the secondary. And when 302 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: we talk about the secondary, this is interesting and something 303 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: I really want to get into here on Cardinals cover Too, 304 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: presented by Hunday probably partner of the Arizona Cardinal because 305 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: in addition to an update on Marco Wilson as far 306 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: as his health, we heard from Kingsbury asked about the 307 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: cornerback room in general and the myths that they are 308 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 1: wearing handful of players are wearing these I guess oven glove. 309 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: They're not oven mits, but they look like you're about 310 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: to spar with someone, but they've got these gloves to 311 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: avoid the grabbing and holding. And that led into a 312 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: discussion on just the depth in that corner room and 313 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: unprompted for the second time now this training camp, Kingsbury 314 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: has brought up Marco Wilson earlier on Thursday. The jury 315 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: is still out. I'll go back to July thirtieth. Marco 316 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: Wilson is in the mix. Now are we to read 317 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 1: into anything that Marco Wilson, which I'll anticipated and I 318 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: don't think I was alone that it's Buyer Murphy, Marco 319 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: Wilson and a question mark as far as who that 320 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: number three cornerback is going to be. And then you 321 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: figure out where Bayern Murphy's going to play insider outside. 322 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: But now all of a sudden, there is a question 323 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: mark that the head coach placed on Marco Wilson trying 324 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: to figure out what's going to happen in that secondary. 325 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: This is interesting because Marco had a good rookie year 326 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: last year and we heard from Cliff Kingsbury from Vance 327 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: Joseph from his coach is about how well he was 328 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: doing in the expectation for growth heading into year two. 329 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: It's interesting when you start to look at the depth, 330 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: and not to say that Marco wouldn't have necessarily earned 331 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 1: a spawning role at this point. But after Buyer Murphy 332 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: and Marco Wilson, it's Antonio Hamilton, Josh Jackson, rookie Christian Matthew. 333 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: It's kind of a couple of question marks. So the 334 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: only thing that I can really think of would be 335 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: two things. We had talked about this on Cardinal's Underground 336 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: myself with darrener Rind and Paul CALVISI of the idea 337 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: of still adding a veteran cornerback. However, with the business 338 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: side of things, business side of things, maybe that doesn't 339 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: happen until after week one of the regular season. The 340 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: other thing I could think of, and I don't have 341 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: any like true. I don't have anything true to really 342 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: grab onto for this thought that maybe this is a 343 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: message letting Marco Wilson know, who is young, that just 344 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: because you had a good year doesn't mean you're automatically 345 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: a starter. And again, I haven't heard or seen anything 346 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: that would make me to believe that Marco Wilson is 347 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: walking around cocky, or maybe not studying the playbook as much, 348 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: not as prepared, not putting an effort in practice. I 349 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: don't have knowledge of any of that. I'm just wondering 350 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: if maybe that's part of this, the thought process of 351 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: let's remind this young player that nothing is given. You 352 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: have to continue to earn your role every year. I 353 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: don't know the answer, but that's something that is a 354 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:05,239 Speaker 1: possibility in my head. It's something that I think is 355 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: certainly a consideration. And when you hear the head coach 356 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: bring it up once, okay, but now twice in less 357 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: than a week's time, that Marco Wilson, your fourth round 358 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: draft pick in twenty twenty one, has not earned anything 359 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: yet from the outside looking in, okay, well, if he's 360 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: not playing or starting, then who is? Then it becomes 361 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: who else do you have? And not saying that Marco 362 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: Wilson is looking over his shoulders like, well they've kind 363 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: of played me. I'm I'm not saying that at all, 364 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: But at some point, you know, you hope that that message, 365 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: if it is a message, gets through because the head 366 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 1: coach has brought it up twice now vance. Joseph was 367 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: asked about it as well, and he said, I don't 368 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: know why Marco would need a good camp, And this 369 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: was after Kingsbury had said, yeah, he's in the mix, 370 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: So mixed messages or one is seeing something else. It is, 371 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: to you say, interesting the fact that what I thought 372 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 1: was going to be your number two corner just on 373 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: the depth chart, and you're outside corner. Now all of 374 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: a sudden, he's gonna play. He's going to be here, 375 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: but there's obviously something else going on, and the coaching staff, 376 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: or at least the head coach, is not liking what 377 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: he's seen so far. I mean, it's it's at this point, 378 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: it's kind of only time will tell. And now, of course, 379 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: who knows how long he'll be out with this growing 380 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: injury that he's dealing with. At least it'll give us 381 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: a good look at the other cornerbacks on this roster. 382 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: But I agree with you, I don't think this means 383 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: that we're not going to see Marco Wilson. I'm still 384 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: not necessarily convinced. That doesn't mean Marco Wilson isn't going 385 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: to be your starter. It's just something to keep your 386 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: eye on. And maybe this is you know, they're blown 387 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: smoke in our face of we told you we like competition. 388 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: This is a competition position battle and who knows using 389 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 1: us to get the message out there. Yes, unfortunately that 390 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: is what I am implying by the way your cornerback 391 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: depth chart or just the number of players in that 392 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: room Byron Murphy, Marco Wilson and then Antonio Hamilton, Josh Jackson. 393 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 1: Those are your four that have experience breon boarders Nate Brooks, 394 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 1: Jase Whittaker, Christian Matthew the draft pick, and Daryl Baker junior, 395 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: an undrafted rookie free agent not a lot of experience 396 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: after the first four to why everyone keeps saying cornerback 397 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: you have to look at the cornerback market now. Is 398 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: it happening now or do you want to see what 399 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: happens in the preseason and some action and what these 400 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: younger players are capable of doing or not doing? And 401 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: then you pick up the phone and I'm a big 402 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: fan of Robert Alford. He's been in this system. He 403 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 1: knows what he's doing. You make that phone call then, 404 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: or to your point, do you wait until after week 405 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: one when you sign a veteran, and that contract is 406 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 1: not guaranteed. If he's on the roster in Week one, 407 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: then that contract is guarantee the rest of the season. 408 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: There's a lot of moving parts that go into it. 409 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: It's unfortunately not as easy as look at the cap 410 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: space they can bring in a veteran player. There's there's 411 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: a lot that goes into the decisions that are made. 412 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: Are you saying that it's not like fantasy football where 413 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: you can just sign and cut and sign and cut. No, 414 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: that doesn't work that way. I don't think so. I've 415 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: never been a general manager of an actual NFL team, 416 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: only of my own fantasy football team, but I imagine manager, 417 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: are you of that fantasy football? I am not bad, Okay, 418 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: I will say I'm not that bad. I've played once. 419 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: I'll never do it again unless forced as I was 420 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: the first time. I'm just not a fantasy football person, 421 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: and it takes a lot of time. It does. I'm 422 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: not like a crazy person who's like obsessed and freaks 423 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: out and gets upset or anything like that. It is 424 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: kind of a fun way to get to start to 425 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: like watch and learn more about other players and defenses 426 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: and stuff around the league, and you know, with your 427 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 1: friends and have a good time. But I'm not a 428 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 1: bad GM if I do say so myself. I never 429 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: won a league though maybe never started someone that was 430 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: on a bye week, because I think I have a 431 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 1: couple of times I didn't really pay much attention to this. 432 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: You got to look ahead, and when you're drafting, you 433 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: gotta look at bye weeks with the players and positions 434 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: you're drafting. Come on, yeah, it's just not a I'm 435 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: just not a big Maybe I want you, maybe we 436 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: should do a league together, and I want you in 437 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: my lady. Let's see what you're doing. One last point 438 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 1: here on Cardinals cover two presented by Hunday probably partner 439 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals, because and I don't want to 440 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: give a name, but I just want to let you know, Danny, 441 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: that you do have followers within the organization who follow 442 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: you on social media. And an individual walked past Darren 443 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: Urban and myself as we were watching practice and looked 444 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: at us with a straight face and said, quote, no 445 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: phone time today, to which Darren and I both looked 446 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: and said, okay, Well, Danny's got at least one follower 447 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: on social media. I know exactly who you're talking about, 448 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: and I thanked her for the follow on Twitter. Of course, 449 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: go check out my Twitter at Danny Sarak. I got 450 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: a really great candid photo of my gen Z co 451 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: workers Craig Grilo and Darren Urban, both smiling at their 452 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: phones on the Sideline app practice. So I had to 453 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: use my own phone only to snap a picture. I 454 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: wasn't on my phone the way the two of you were, 455 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: and I had joked, I said, I said how to 456 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: use my iPhone and I used it. See, I at 457 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: least wasn't even going to call you out on that, Craig. 458 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: But now that you set yourself up, I figured out 459 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: how to do a video, yes, multiple videos in one video. 460 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: You were very excited to learn how to use the 461 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: iMovie app. Yeah, and I'm happy and I'm happy for you. 462 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: So I had to take a picture, I tweeted out. 463 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: I joked about putting a screen limit on your phones. 464 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,959 Speaker 1: It's all in good fun, yes, but we learned stuff 465 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: aren't during training camp. It's not just on the field 466 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: like the players, it's technology as well. So I appreciate 467 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: the help. I'm here to help you. I won't always 468 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: make fun of you if you have questions. I will 469 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 1: answer as much as I can. I appreciate that I'm 470 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: not very tech savvy, so I don't get your hopes 471 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: up to high. Well, Darren's the one that showed me 472 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 1: how to do an eye. I know. If Darren knows 473 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: how to do that, I've got to be a wizard. 474 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: And on that note, we will put a lid on 475 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 1: this edition of Cardinals Covered two, presented by Hunday Probab, 476 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to 477 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: our executive producer Jim Mormandro For Danny Serek, I'm greg 478 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: Ria Loup. We'll talk to you next time here on 479 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two.