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Speaker 1: I am all in again. How that's just you? H?

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Speaker 2: I am all in again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all and Podcast one

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Speaker 1: eleven productions, iHeart Radio Media, iHeart Podcast. Special guest for

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Speaker 1: our Recap Season two, episode sixteen, There's the Rub is

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Speaker 1: the one and only Scout Taylor Compton. Welcome, Scout. How

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Speaker 1: are you doing.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing so good your face.

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Speaker 1: It's good to see you too. You're the creator and

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Speaker 1: writer of the Diaries of the Mortician's Daughter, a semi

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Speaker 1: autobiographical coming of age dark comedy inspired by your unconventional

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Speaker 1: upbringing in a funeral home. You also co host podcast

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Speaker 1: talks to Be with Danielle Harris. In addition to your

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Speaker 1: work on screen and behind the camera, Scout has been

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Speaker 1: actively writing her own screenplays. Oh boy, don't I know

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Speaker 1: what that's like, several of which are now in motion

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Speaker 1: to be greenlit. Wow. Wow, yeah, look at you.

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Speaker 2: I'm growing up, baby, Look at you go.

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Speaker 1: Screenplays, man, it's like the kids, they take over, you know.

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Speaker 1: There was a like I worked with a kid on

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Speaker 1: Three Wishes in ninety five. Yeah, and he played my son.

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Speaker 1: He was what eight or nine or something like that.

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Speaker 1: He turned out to like he invented digital money, oh

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Speaker 1: within video games and became insanely rich and on the

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Speaker 1: cover of Forbes. Not only it was like, you're following

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Speaker 1: the same path the kids grow up.

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Speaker 2: That's also because we've had people in our lives I'm

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Speaker 2: sure you you know like that we were able to

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Speaker 2: look up to and admire be like, wow, look at

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Speaker 2: that person what they're able to accomplish. And I feel

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Speaker 2: like with my generation, at least for me, I feel

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Speaker 2: like I'm such a late bloomber. I should have been

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Speaker 2: doing this ten years ago, but right right now I'm

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Speaker 2: doing it.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's more to tell.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, more more life, more life.

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Speaker 1: Like you know Laurie Strode Rob Zombie's Halloween films you

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Speaker 1: were in. It also started Halloween to the Runaways so

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Speaker 1: much more. Gilmore Girls fan recognize you as Dean's younger

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Speaker 1: sister Claria. Of course, all right, Scout, we're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about this episode. Emily wins a weekend spa trip and

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Speaker 1: ask Laura La to join her for relaxing holiday. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: Rory received some unexpected visitors when she you know what,

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Speaker 1: very sort of like non eventful things happening in anybody's lives,

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Speaker 1: but for somehow the show makes it compelling. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: A couple of people come over and study, and it's dinner.

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Speaker 1: Sheila Lawrence directed at Amy Sherman Palatino, The Great One,

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Speaker 1: wrote it Emily and Laura. Emily been on a certificate

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Speaker 1: Laurla shares her excitement about the offer, but then Emily

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not because it's very much like my mother.

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Speaker 2: This sort of dynamic reminds me so much of my

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Speaker 2: And when this happened, I just thought of my own situation.

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Speaker 1: Right, Emily's ulterior motive.

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Speaker 2: So I think it's this episode's really important.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very honest talk they had on the bed. Emily

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Speaker 1: Here's a question. Would you are on the you know

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Speaker 2: You have to give them structure, a little bit of structure,

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Speaker 1: But anyway, Okay, So, so Emily got Lorelei in her

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Speaker 1: Like what mom? You know what people do after they

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Speaker 1: to control themselves. I mean, come on, did you could

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00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 1: you control yourself?

436
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 3: Cut? I?

437
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 1: Oh, I could not, lest we judge.

438
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 2: I just you know, I just wish that. I wish

439
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 2: that at that age we weren't so hard on ourselves

440
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 2: to like communicate easier. You know, like it should be

441
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 2: so easy to like communicate to like an opposite sex

442
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 2: or the same sex whatever, you know, just to be like,

443
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 2: I'm not into you anymore. This isn't working. Why is

444
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 2: that so hard to say? But why is that like

445
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 2: so difficult at that at that age in time feels

446
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 2: like forever.

447
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: But Dean's a Dean's a good guy, right, Yeah, he's

448
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: a good, solid guy. Maybe not for her, but he's

449
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,479
Speaker 1: a good, solid guy, decent, decent person.

450
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just like clutching to this version of Rory

451
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 2: that he you know, that he used to know the

452
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 2: girl who's like all the books and town festivals and

453
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 2: straight lighting plans. But now she's like, I don't know,

454
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 2: she's inching into this like complicated dynamic with Jess, and

455
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 2: she's becoming more independent and becoming more layered, and you know,

456
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 2: you can see your stepping into like the next chapter

457
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 2: of her life kind of thing, and I'm sure he

458
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 2: can see it too. Yeah, I see Deane's kind of

459
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 2: stuck at the starting line, is what it is. He's

460
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 2: just stuck at that starting line.

461
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: Well, I think what Dean offers hers consistency throughout a lifetime. Yeah,

462
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: And there's really no unpredictability there whatsoever. I mean, what

463
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: you see is what you get, and there's something very

464
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: positive about that. But for her, I think she wants

465
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: to get wrecked. Yeah, because I think she understands. Because

466
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 1: she's so literate, you know that she she needs to

467
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: live an artistic life. And in order to live an

468
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: artistic life and to grow and to learn and to

469
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 1: add depth to her character and her soul, which craves disaster, right,

470
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 1: she craves it. But it's kind of what she's used to.

471
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,959
Speaker 1: I think maybe she is deep down it's the only

472
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 1: way you can grow. It's like, learn the big lessons

473
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: from the big accidents. And the big accidents always feel

474
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 1: so good right now when they're working out, right, they're very,

475
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: very intoxicating. But I think what we didn't know back

476
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: then was that it's just all temporary and they're just

477
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: life lessons and it's just something you got to get

478
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: through and it's you know, kind of an aberration, but

479
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: you're on a certain path for sure. But the artistical

480
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: life is different. It's different. It's high risk, high reward,

481
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: you know, that kind of thing, but a lot of suffering.

482
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: I think true artists are attracted suffering, you know, the

483
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: real deal. If you're the real deal, you're going to

484
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: suffer a lot. That's going to be really good for

485
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: your art.

486
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 2: Man, I feel like you're talking to me, right, I

487
00:28:54,080 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 2: guess I like that don't know what it is. I

488
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 2: was like, oh shit, yeah, that's true. That's so true.

489
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: I mean like it all depends on who your literary

490
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: heroes are. Yeah, right, what you know what turned you

491
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: on at seventeen or sixteen? Who did you read? That

492
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: just blew your hair back and you were like, Wow,

493
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was possible, you know. So I

494
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: think that all informs and I think Jess has gone

495
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: through it. Rory's going through it to an extent, right,

496
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: But I think she's drawn to that darkness. Yeah, she

497
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: knows that there's knowledge there, there's there are lessons there

498
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: that she would like to learn.

499
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 2: So it makes it so compelling to watch.

500
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: Absolutely, no, there's no question there's no question. I love it.

501
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: I am sending you a digital tissue, thank you. But

502
00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: it's so good.

503
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: It's so good to like real that about yourself.

504
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: That is. Yeah, I think Dean's frustration is warranted. This guy,

505
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: he's suffering like Luke. He suffers like Luke.

506
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 2: Oh my god, they are so similar, aren't they that?

507
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 3: Yeah?

508
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: Oh I never noticed that sitting around suffering. He's watching

509
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: Larele I, you know, go after Rory, go after other guys.

510
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: Are big core by other guys the way Luke has

511
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: had to watch. It's going to continue to watch Laurel. I.

512
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 2: But those type of men just sit back and watch.

513
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I you know, I have a reputation

514
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: of diner. You know I can't. I can't accept Oh yeah,

515
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: you know I can't. I have an excuse. I can

516
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: hide behind my diner, my reputation, all that.

517
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 2: I was literally going to just say, they give them excuse,

518
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 2: They give their inner dialogue excuses all the time. Yeah,

519
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 2: that diner man, that's right down.

520
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: I gotta go better. I gotta I goly man. Someone's

521
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: got to make the donuts. You know. No, I can't

522
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: mess around with you. I can't worry about you and

523
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: Max or you and whoever?

524
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,719
Speaker 2: Did we ever see your kitchen?

525
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: No, no, it didn't exist. There was no kitchen back there,

526
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: bags and bags of items there's there's just there was

527
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: no kitchen. There was a room back there. That's that's

528
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: where Robert Lee, our vaunted extra Robert Lee would hide out.

529
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: Really yeah. He would duck down and for cover and

530
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: then emerge. And that's also the place where Caesar got

531
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: much shorter. Yeah, because he started out kind of tall

532
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: and and then he got you know, he lost about

533
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: six inches or more.

534
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: Oh so funny.

535
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: Well, this is one of the first times we see

536
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: Paris stand up for Rory. Were you surprised?

537
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 2: Wait? I really think that we need an episode of

538
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 2: just watching your character cook in the back. I think

539
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 2: we all, for the whole, for the whole fandom, everybody

540
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: that loves the show. I think they would pay big

541
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 2: bucks they see you cook the meals that were that

542
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 2: were presented to the cast.

543
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: You know, I got offered a show. I got offered

544
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: a show, not not where I would be cooking, but

545
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: there would be lots of kitchens.

546
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 2: Yeah what oh yeah, yeah, and you have PTSD. You're like,

547
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 2: I need to turn this down, No more kitchens for me.

548
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: Now we're kind of waiting on approval.

549
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 2: Oh hell yeah, I'm so for it.

550
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: Yeah right, I mean they never saw the kitchens in

551
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: seven years or twenty five years. If this show gets approved,

552
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: there's going to see another butt kitchens. Oh. I love it.

553
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 2: I love it for people want you to be babe.

554
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 2: That's it right there.

555
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: You know, hey, you know chain me to the stove man. Yeah,

556
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: I don't mind.

557
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 3: I love it.

558
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: I love it. So have you evercovered for a friend

559
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: the way Paris did for Rory? I mean that was

560
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: quick thinking. Paris. It was my fault. Just came over

561
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: to see me. I have a crush on him, blah

562
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: blah blah.

563
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 2: Dude, I'm not that fast. I'm not that fast, Like

564
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 2: I really, that's something that I struggle with. I'm I

565
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 2: am so shocked and amazed by how people are so fat.

566
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 2: That's why I'm terrible with arguments. I'm like, just give me,

567
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 2: can you give me like ten minutes so I can

568
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: like out of my thoughts and then come back and

569
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 2: then I'll tell you what's going on. I'm just not

570
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 2: that good. I thought it was so I mean, obviously

571
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: out of the box. For her, and that was such

572
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 2: a nice moment to see for.

573
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: Her character doing something for somebody else.

574
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 2: Somebody else. Andy's face, though, I feel like she was

575
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 2: like shocked, but like not too shocked. I was like,

576
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 2: that's it. That was a that was a very shocking moment.

577
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 2: But I think a really a big stepping stone for

578
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 2: for those.

579
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 1: Two, right, huge, yeah, big moment.

580
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

581
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: Well, you know, Dean calms down after he hears this,

582
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: but I think he's still is smelling a rat a

583
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: little bit.

584
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 2: Don't you hate?

585
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: Not hate?

586
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a strong word, but those couples that argue

587
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:52,240
Speaker 2: in front of people, that was literally what was happening.

588
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 2: I felt so bad for Paris and I was like,

589
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 2: first of all, Dean, what are you doing?

590
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: Whoa whoa, whoa whoa? He was like, yeah, he was.

591
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: He was really bumed. You know, somebody that's six' four

592
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 1: needs to just, chill. Chill you, know they can't get

593
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: bigger or, louder and that's, scary you.

594
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 2: Know. Yeah, Yeah And rory handled herself very very well

595
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 2: in that situation as much as she. Could BUT i

596
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: really was very upset Being i'm sorry being being, sister

597
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 2: was very upset watching that, right that is not, Out

598
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 2: that is not what you.

599
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: Do and then now we go back To emily And.

600
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: Laurela theyre at the, hotel they're packing their. Stuff, emily you,

601
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: know pulled the plug on the whole thing after the

602
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: The chad Incident chad h And laurla, said maybe an

603
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: intense weekend together wasn't the best. Idea she's just starting

604
00:35:55,200 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: with something smaller like stealing a. Robe, Yeah emily. Agrees

605
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: Is emily being naive when she ask her why Her

606
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: LA i can have the same relationship With lord Lion.

607
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 1: Ry is that a question That emily would really, ask

608
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: wouldn't she? Know or is that her blind?

609
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 2: SPOT i think it is her blind, spot poor, THING

610
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 2: i really. Do LIKE i, said, LIKE i just keep

611
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: on going back, to you, know my relationships THAT i

612
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 2: have with my. Family it's, like especially it's a generation,

613
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 2: thing right.

614
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: Too like.

615
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 2: Sometimes that generation just doesn't see what's right in front

616
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 2: of them or doesn't see their wrongs, either which makes

617
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 2: it very very. Difficult you, know this is.

618
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: An interesting topic. Here, yeah WHEN i was growing, up

619
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: parents could trust, schools they could trust other, parents they

620
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: could trust, community they could trust the, cops they could

621
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: trust everybody to take care of the. Kids it really

622
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: was a. Community, yeah you, know it really really was a.

623
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: Village that doesn't happen. Anymore you can't trust anybody to do,

624
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: anything which is WHY i think. THIS i think it's

625
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: one of the reasons that it's not talked. ABOUT i

626
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 1: think that's why one of why this show resonates so

627
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: deeply is because it is reflecting the times so perfectly

628
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: and so honestly that, man you.

629
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 3: Can't you.

630
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: Can you can live inside of a bubble where everybody

631
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: trusts each other and they could raise your. Kid you

632
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: can trust. That but you go outside that, bubble, no

633
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: which is WHY i think the show is so. Popular

634
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 1: it continues to be so popular because it is a time.

635
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: Capsule that show is a time. Capsule that stars hollow

636
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: was not an uncommon reality in the sixties and you, know,

637
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: fifties sixties and part of the.

638
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 2: Seventies that's what even you describing, THAT i, mean even going,

639
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 2: back there's there's NO i think that Is you're exactly

640
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 2: right why this show is so. POPULAR i, mean even

641
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 2: even WHEN i was watching it as a, KID i

642
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 2: was like fantasizing about living. THERE i was, like how

643
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 2: great would that be to be in a community that

644
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: loves each other and takes care of one another and

645
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: a family that's like there for one, Another and you

646
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: know that's not really my. Dynamic so it's, yeah you're absolutely.

647
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: Right and they didn't need to be so. Close, yeah

648
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: but they. Were they were and they are because you

649
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: could Trust Ms. Patty you can Trust Kirk, WELL i

650
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: mean to an, extent you can, trust you can trust every.

651
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 2: Reason my, Dog i'm definitely trusted, to like walk my.

652
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: Dog but you could Trust. Luke you could even Trust. Jess,

653
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: yeah and you, know HE'S i think at the end

654
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: of the, day He's, yeah he's sort of a, rebel risky,

655
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: guy but he's NOT i don't think he's. Dangerous, No,

656
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: right he may be a little responsible here and, there

657
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: but he's not. Dangerous he's not intentionally. Dangerous he's. Not

658
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 1: he's dealing with some anger, issues but he's he's he's

659
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: he's not. Dangerous, yeah but THAT i think is the

660
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: power Of so, anyway are you surprised That luke was

661
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 1: not a part of sending over the, food Sending jess

662
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: over the, food or do you Think rory was charmed by?

663
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 2: That you, know that that did take, me that that

664
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 2: did surprise. Me it did surprise me that.

665
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: It was just.

666
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 2: Him but, then now knowing how he, Is i'm, like

667
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 2: should it have surprised?

668
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: Me, no.

669
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 2: Like that little kid poking and running. Away but he's

670
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 2: he's definitely very inserted, in like he inserts. HIMSELF i

671
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 2: mean you have to admire, that, right you think he's

672
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 2: a master.

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00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 1: Manipulator is just being?

674
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 2: BOLD i don't, KNOW i don't.

675
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: KNOW i think he LOVED i think he loves. HER

676
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: i think he thinks about. HER i think he loves.

677
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 1: HER i think he wants to be with, her and

678
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: he's playing it.

679
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 2: Cool but, man but to be that bold too, though

680
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 2: that's LIKE i don't Think i've ever gone to someone's,

681
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 2: house made up an excuse and then invited myself. In

682
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 2: that's amazing to have that, confidence you, know or TO i,

683
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 2: guess just to be that that entranced with.

684
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: Someone, well it's, literature, right it's like this, deep this

685
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: deep long mm. Hmm it's what you want to read about.

686
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: Exactly it's what you want to watch on the. Show

687
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: is what he's willing to do to get close to.

688
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: Her, yeah that's what you want in. Life m.

689
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: Hmm and who doesn't want to be pursued that?

690
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: Way, yeah that's, right, right that's.

691
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 1: Right and knows what he's, doing.

692
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 2: Which is interesting because because because your character might have

693
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 2: been able to learn a little bit from From. Jess

694
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 2: they just had a little pow wow at the diner

695
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 2: while you're cooking some. Food how do we get him

696
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: to fall in love with?

697
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: US i don't know that that's.

698
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 2: Possible which's possible to.

699
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: Get a woman to fall in love with?

700
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 2: You?

701
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: No, no it's just.

702
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 5: You, know they either just give up and settle or,

703
00:41:54,280 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 5: like all right, us so DON'T i?

704
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 2: Worse, hey my boxes at least ten are.

705
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: Checked it's like when they look at you like you're

706
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: not going. AWAY i. Knew, okay let's.

707
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 2: Go how did you and your your wife? MEET i

708
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 2: Was were you the? Pursuer?

709
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: Oh, YEAH.

710
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: I was.

711
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: TEACHING i was very busy teaching. Acting m h and.

712
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: UH i was at a complex that at four, theaters

713
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: AND i was teaching downstairs. Theater one night she was

714
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: upstairs in another class AND i was upstairs before my

715
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: class started talking TO i had a couple of assistants

716
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: AND i was talking to them. Upstairs they were we

717
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: were seated and she just walked. By it was just

718
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: that you know, thing, wow locked eyes and like. HELLO

719
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: i didn't say a. Word but, then you, KNOW i

720
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: think the next WEEK i saw her outside during a

721
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 1: break and, uh you, know don't.

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00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 2: You know it's in the, ass.

723
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 1: You know, it that's. MINE i take a, ride probably

724
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 1: not seal.

725
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 2: It i'll get a. Sidecar she was about to.

726
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: Light a cigarette AND i popped it out of her

727
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 1: mouth and flipped it into my. Own no, NOT i, was,

728
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: okay nobody's. Smoking that's just like it was all black and.

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00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 1: White oh my, GOD i love.

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00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 2: IT i love.

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00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: It tell me About diaries Of Morticians.

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00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: Daughter you, know it's been in development for a really

733
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 2: really long. TIME i first was like developing it obviously

734
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 2: because of my stories and my, bringing and you, KNOW

735
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 2: i think there's there's it's the story is kind of

736
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 2: about the dysfunction of, families which is really amazing and

737
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 2: obviously makes for a good Show Gilmore. Girls but then

738
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 2: it's also about the community that's around it as, well

739
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 2: which is kind of what you were, Saying AND i

740
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 2: just didn't really ever think of that With Gilmore, girls

741
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 2: but it, is it's like this own bubble that this

742
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 2: small man. Has AND i really am obsessed, with you know,

743
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 2: why a coming of age. STORIES i think so much

744
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 2: importance comes comes from those, stories especially for our. Kids you.

745
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 2: Know that's not like pushing the envelope like, euphoria.

746
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: You, know and stuff like.

747
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,919
Speaker 2: That but, yeah So i'm hoping to make it A tv.

748
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 2: Show but While i've been, WAITING i just wrote the.

749
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 2: Book So i'm about to launch the. Book oh, gosh, yeah,

750
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 2: right which is pretty much just the first season wrapped

751
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,760
Speaker 2: up in a little bow. Tie BUT i just tossed

752
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 2: into the universe and to soak someone like reels it.

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00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 3: In, Right.

754
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: So let's talk about your horror. Experiences you're known for

755
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: your roles in. Horrors is this your favorite genre to act?

756
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 2: In is it my favorite genre to act? IN i,

757
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 2: MEAN i guess it's like it's familiar, territory. Right it's

758
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 2: like it's like you With. Luke it's, like you, know

759
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 2: it's very. FAMILIAR i know. IT i CAN i can

760
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: do it in my. SLEEP i know, it you, know

761
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 2: backwards and, forwards SO i can always like jump into.

762
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 3: It is it my?

763
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 2: FAVORITE i don't, Know I'M I i feel Like i'm

764
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 2: discovering new elements of myself right. NOW i just started

765
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 2: directing the last two, years and even with, THAT i

766
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 2: am from WHERE i started to WHERE i am right.

767
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 2: Now it's like vastly. Different and it's because there's these

768
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 2: growing pains That i'm doing with myself and discovering myself

769
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 2: as a you, know it's a mid thirty year old.

770
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 2: Woman i'm just like really enjoying finding my. Voice and

771
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 2: it's the first time That i've been able to find

772
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 2: my voice and not hide behind a. Character AND i

773
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 2: think horror obviously helped me a lot with my. TRAUMA

774
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 2: i think being able to like let that sort of

775
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 2: fear and that sort of energy come, out you know

776
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 2: what horror brings, OUT i think definitely helped me in

777
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 2: that time in my. Life BUT i, mean it's ALWAYS

778
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 2: i love it so. Much it's always such a really

779
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 2: great genre to go back to and be a part.

780
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 2: Of But i'm discovering other.

781
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: Things it's quite a. Voice thank god you found. It keep,

782
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: talking thanks keep, writing keep. Doing it's a it's a

783
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: gift to all of.

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00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 3: Us.

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00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: Uh and you're gonna have to come. Back, unfortunately you're

786
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: gonna have to come. BACK i wish because there's so

787
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: much more to unpack here with. You we didn't even

788
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: get to you, know very many of the, questions but

789
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 1: there's so many more, questions and you're going to answer.

790
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: THEM i will hold your feet to the. FIRE i love.

791
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 2: It, No i'll definitely come. BACK i have to have

792
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 2: you on my podcast.

793
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: Too oh, yeah, yeah let me. Know let's let me.

794
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: Know all of us appreciate, you appreciate the time and the.

795
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,760
Speaker 1: Insights always it's always a blessed to see A scout

796
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: Tailor coompton and, remember best fans on the. Planet where

797
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 1: you're to, lead we will. Follow stay safe everyone.

798
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 3: Dot, everybody and don't forget.

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00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: Follow us On instagram AT I am All in podcast

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Speaker 1: and email us At gilmore at iHeartRadio dot.

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