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Speaker 6: It is Wednesday, April nineteenth, twenty twenty three, Season nineteen,
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Speaker 6: Brian brought us Ambergarcia here with me. We got about
Speaker 6: forty five minutes with you guys, and we'll be talking
Speaker 6: about it a little bit of everything today. Stephen Jones
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Speaker 6: some interesting things to say. We'll go through some of
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Speaker 6: We'd love to hear from you, hear some questions and
Speaker 6: get these guys thinking let's start first. That was a question.
Speaker 6: I think that that just kind of sets the stage
Speaker 6: for where we are at this point. That I got
Speaker 6: from Richard on Twitter. He says, is it more hectic
Speaker 6: in the building now that's closer to the draft? Are
Speaker 6: there more scouts just running around? What happens at this point?
Speaker 6: We're eight days out from the NFL Draft. What's going
Speaker 6: on in the building.
Speaker 8: At this point seems pretty quiet? I mean, I think
Speaker 8: is always like considered the calm before the storm. I
Speaker 8: don't know, I don't know. Brian will tell you more
Speaker 8: about what the scouts are running around, but I mean
Speaker 8: I feel like they've probably getting their ducks in a
Speaker 8: row a little bit, probably doing a lot of calling
Speaker 8: to other teams, trying to see where other teams are
Speaker 8: feeling out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a in Nick's right, there's a certain calmness
Speaker 3: about it. It's not so much running around. You finished up,
Speaker 3: you know, they had some of the thirty visit guys.
Speaker 3: Maybe the schedules don't quite work with trying to get
Speaker 3: everybody in a certain time period. There is a time
Speaker 3: where the league says you can't bring players here. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so you're yeah, you're.
Speaker 2: In that mode now. So it's it's the scouts.
Speaker 3: It's building boards, it's building your stack, it's building the
Speaker 3: board by position by round, and it's a lot of discussions.
Speaker 2: And it's really it's it's all set in that one room.
Speaker 3: You come out, you eat lunch, might go get a workout,
Speaker 3: and then you come back in and you do it.
Speaker 3: There's you know, it's actually really a a neat process.
Speaker 2: Do you go through each position.
Speaker 3: You know, you start with maybe your highest graded player
Speaker 3: or you might be starting in alphabetical order, and work
Speaker 3: your way all through until you get done with the position,
Speaker 3: and then you move on to the next. So it's
Speaker 3: a it's a pretty just u It's it's almost like
Speaker 3: the movie Groundhog Day, if you've ever seen with Bill Murray,
Speaker 3: where you live the same day over and over and
Speaker 3: over again. But the word hectic or running around I
Speaker 3: wouldn't use in this case.
Speaker 4: I was going to say people I've run into people
Speaker 4: that are actually in the war room and during the
Speaker 4: draft day, everyone I've run into that. I'm like, hey,
Speaker 4: how's he going draft? You know, you do get that
Speaker 4: sense of stress, that sense of which is normal because
Speaker 4: you have so much going on and you're so busy
Speaker 4: and kind of running around. But I think that happens
Speaker 4: every single year, with every single draft that comes around.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the pressure that scouts that you run into feel
Speaker 3: is having to present the player because this is really
Speaker 3: the first opportunity that Jerry and Steven have to get
Speaker 3: to and maybe Mike McCarthy too, have got to see
Speaker 3: the player, and you want to be able to give
Speaker 3: the player his due and as well as his team drafts.
Speaker 3: You want to present in a way that makes that
Speaker 3: player in that light, whether the good things the player does,
Speaker 3: the things he might need to work on, where he
Speaker 3: fits in the stack, where he fits on the board.
Speaker 2: There's not a pressure on you to do that.
Speaker 3: Because there might be some guys in your areas you're
Speaker 3: driving around that you're like, man, I really like this kid.
Speaker 3: I would love for us to draft this guy. So
Speaker 3: you don't want to let that player down and let
Speaker 3: yourself down that you didn't do a good enough job
Speaker 3: presenting the player. That's that's a lot of the stress
Speaker 3: that these guys feel.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a ton of meetings and everybody I talked
Speaker 6: to you on that side of the building all is
Speaker 6: like meeting after meeting after meeting after meeting. Well, I
Speaker 6: know that's our world too.
Speaker 2: Well, let's go. We've done.
Speaker 3: You're in an unusual situation here and I've lived it
Speaker 3: myself because Jerry and Steven and this is this is
Speaker 3: just you know, this is because your owner is the
Speaker 3: general manager. He also has other businesses too, so he
Speaker 3: has to carve out time to be so you work
Speaker 3: around their schedule as well. So it could be a
Speaker 3: little bit of a you know, hey, we got six
Speaker 3: hours blocked, Okay, we got to take an hour off.
Speaker 3: Now we're gonna go another four hours. You know, it's
Speaker 3: kind of a it's it's very unique, but it works
Speaker 3: for these guys. They do a really good job about it.
Speaker 6: Let's real quick, Brian. You mentioned the board for those
Speaker 6: people out there that are listening that aren't regular listeners
Speaker 6: to the Draft show and may not understand how that
Speaker 6: all works. Just quickly, in a quick two minute assessment.
Speaker 2: You're asking me to do something I can't do. How
Speaker 2: do you how do.
Speaker 6: You build a board like they are all these names,
Speaker 6: and obviously there are you know, some people might think, well,
Speaker 6: you literally just list them all in order of how
Speaker 6: you'd like to take them. But how does that all work?
Speaker 6: How does the what are you trying to get to
Speaker 6: when you're building your board?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: If in my my other job is working on one
Speaker 3: oh five three the fan, and I'm going to post
Speaker 3: my board on our website, so you have an idea,
Speaker 3: I do it exactly how you know. I learned the
Speaker 3: Cowboys the Packers back in the day and putting a
Speaker 3: board out there. I'm going to put a stack up
Speaker 3: for you too, from one to two to two ten
Speaker 3: on the players I've looked at and what order I
Speaker 3: would take them. It's really to me, you're all too
Speaker 3: ten I did I put in order of how would
Speaker 3: take them?
Speaker 2: From one to two? Ten is what I would do.
Speaker 3: And so it's you know, you're kind of thinking about, Okay,
Speaker 3: how do you you know, how does this go compared
Speaker 3: to this defensive tackle, How does this corner compare to
Speaker 3: this wide receiver? How would I how do I feel
Speaker 3: about I have to go back and read some of
Speaker 3: my notes and say, okay, I like this guy a
Speaker 3: little bit better.
Speaker 2: That's what they're doing in there.
Speaker 8: I mean, let me catch off real quick and ask
Speaker 8: you you doing your board based off of all the teams?
Speaker 8: Are the Cowboys doing their board based off of all
Speaker 8: the teams? If the number one player on Kansas City's board,
Speaker 8: if the number one player is a quarterback, is he
Speaker 8: number one on their board? And on they have Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 3: No, that's that's the thing that its talking about the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: The Cowboys do the teams do.
Speaker 8: The board based off of where they would pick them
Speaker 8: based off.
Speaker 3: That's yeah, you don't want a window dresser board. You know,
Speaker 3: you don't care about the outside anything.
Speaker 2: I don't care. No, I don't care.
Speaker 3: You just you're looking at your You're looking at your
Speaker 3: particular team, and you got to even though you have
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes, you have to give these players their due
Speaker 3: and you have to say, Okay, if we were drafting,
Speaker 3: if we were drafted, where would we put up Bryce
Speaker 3: Young quarterback Alabama? Is Bryce Young in our stack? When
Speaker 3: we go one to two fifty or how many other players?
Speaker 3: They usually put about one hundred fifty players on their board.
Speaker 3: So from one to one fifty, where would we put
Speaker 3: Bryce Young in that and what one of the great
Speaker 3: examples of the Cowboys getting their board right was if
Speaker 3: you go back to the Johnny Manziel draft where they
Speaker 3: had Zach Martin and they lose Ryan Shazeer, who's the
Speaker 3: tag ahead of them, and then Alsten chazers off the board.
Speaker 2: Who's the next guy, Zach Martin.
Speaker 3: Jerry Jones, general manager, goes, Johnny Manziel's tax is still there, guys,
Speaker 3: So now he brings it up in the room. Everybody
Speaker 3: kind of goes, but Jerry, Zach Martin is our next,
Speaker 3: our tag. That's that's that's the work that we did.
Speaker 3: We're you know, we're not window dressing our board. We're
Speaker 3: not just putting guys up there to put them up there.
Speaker 3: We're putting up there how we would take them, you know,
Speaker 3: because if Kansas City got if they're at at thirty
Speaker 3: one and Bryce Young, who they put at second maybe
Speaker 3: on their board, is there, they should take by all means,
Speaker 3: should take Bryce Young is what they should do if
Speaker 3: they're if they're true to their stack and.
Speaker 2: Their board, and do what with them?
Speaker 8: Trade them?
Speaker 3: I think, you know, I think keeping I think you
Speaker 3: keep them in there, you keep you hold on you
Speaker 3: never know.
Speaker 2: I mean, the teams play without, they play without your
Speaker 2: quarterback every.
Speaker 6: Once so well, true as thing like what a.
Speaker 2: Parcel that would be a luxury pick, then we are.
Speaker 6: We're in the talent acquisition business. So you try to
Speaker 6: get the best talent you can and by at some
Speaker 6: point it's going to be valuable to you, whether it
Speaker 6: is a trade or work you actually ready to play
Speaker 6: the player.
Speaker 2: I think too though.
Speaker 3: It's to me the great thing that the Cowboys have
Speaker 3: been able to do under Will McClay and his administration
Speaker 3: is like when a CD Lamb becomes available, you know
Speaker 3: everybody had them, taking Chase on the defensive end from
Speaker 3: or outside linebacker from LSU, everybody, you know, everybody had them.
Speaker 3: It's oh, they're taking it in and they're taking it
Speaker 3: in and taking it in. And the night of the draft,
Speaker 3: we're all like, they hand in the CD Lamb card
Speaker 3: and you're going, my god, they did it. They actually
Speaker 3: took the best player on their board. And I think
Speaker 3: the Cowboys at twenty six are set up that way
Speaker 3: right now. Whatever pick they make at twenty six is
Speaker 3: a pick that's going to help them.
Speaker 2: It really really is.
Speaker 3: Whether it's a guard, whether it's a tight end, whether
Speaker 3: it's a wide receiver, whether it's a corner linebacker, that
Speaker 3: they're set up in a way now that whatever player
Speaker 3: falls to them on their board, they'll be good to go.
Speaker 6: That's like a call in our before we go to
Speaker 6: our first break, we had a call from Jim in Pasadena, California.
Speaker 2: Jim, What up? Jem? Hey Jim? How are we doing?
Speaker 9: I'm fine? How are you this morning?
Speaker 2: Just turned under radio? We're good? Okay?
Speaker 9: Should I turn mine down? Is that what you're telling?
Speaker 2: Please do?
Speaker 6: That's what you got for?
Speaker 2: Okay? Thank you.
Speaker 9: You know, they're talking about drafting a quarterback that falls,
Speaker 9: and I'm wondering, can you if one falls and you
Speaker 9: take them and another team doesn't anticipate you doing that,
Speaker 9: and they get on the horn and go, look, we'll
Speaker 9: give you a bouquet of picks and this very same draft,
Speaker 9: can you trade a guy you just drafted in the
Speaker 9: same draft?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 3: You know what I don't we've seen it, well, no,
Speaker 3: it happened to the NBA all the time.
Speaker 2: It happens the NBA.
Speaker 3: But we've seen it with uh, well what about to
Speaker 3: say what it happened with Eli Manning?
Speaker 2: Man Yeah, Eli.
Speaker 3: Manning and Philip Rivers, you know, all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: like the Chargers take the Chargers take Manning and the
Speaker 3: Giants get on the horn and say, no, we're gonna,
Speaker 3: We're gonna, Well we want.
Speaker 2: To trade here, So yes you can, you can absolutely
Speaker 2: give you that.
Speaker 8: Usually it gets done within the fifteen minutes or however
Speaker 8: long it is for the round.
Speaker 2: We've done it before in twenty seconds on the clock
Speaker 2: before the waves.
Speaker 4: People watching the draft, I feel like sometimes it can
Speaker 4: feel like it takes forever to make the other pick
Speaker 4: and the other team to go. But in reality, when
Speaker 4: you're dealing with all that trying to figure out exactly
Speaker 4: what to do, that amount of time that you have
Speaker 4: to make those big decisions or even pick up the
Speaker 4: phone or call somebody or take a phone call and
Speaker 4: decide if you want to make any kind of trade,
Speaker 4: I mean, it all happens very very quickly, and I
Speaker 4: don't know how they managed.
Speaker 3: Well, you kind of throw you kind of throw the
Speaker 3: chum in the water when you're like your fish and
Speaker 3: you throw chum in the water to try and get
Speaker 3: the big fish to come up.
Speaker 2: And so what you do is pre draft you'll get
Speaker 2: on the phone.
Speaker 3: When I was working at Pro Personnel, I used to
Speaker 3: call all the teams and I'm like, listen, hey, we're
Speaker 3: open if you want to do anything, Man, make sure
Speaker 3: you give Steven a call. You got the numbers, but hey,
Speaker 3: we're ready to be We're here for you. Don't feel
Speaker 3: like you can't pick up the phone and not talk
Speaker 3: to Dallas because we're open.
Speaker 8: And it lets you know just how much they value
Speaker 8: other picks down the road. Because they have a guy
Speaker 8: that they want to take and they've got six minutes
Speaker 8: left on the clock. They're gonna wait. Yep, They're going
Speaker 8: to wait to see because they as much as they
Speaker 8: like this guy, they also want calls. They want to call.
Speaker 8: They want to say maybe we can move back, because
Speaker 8: what if we get this guy and other picks.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you, Micah, I'll tell you.
Speaker 3: In the draft twenty five years ago, I was working
Speaker 3: in Philadelphia. I stud in the draft in Philly with
Speaker 3: Micha Lombardi and if you look at that round, we
Speaker 3: took Trey Thomas and it was the quickest that any
Speaker 3: team turned in their card because I hated Ambart. Just
Speaker 3: what you said all those years is sitting in the
Speaker 3: draft room before that, and and like, you know who
Speaker 3: you want to pick, Just pick the damn guy. Let's
Speaker 3: go on, let's move on, you know. And at that
Speaker 3: time it was fifteen minutes a pick. I think we
Speaker 3: handed our cart in with like eight minutes left on
Speaker 3: the clock. I'm like, guys, we know who we want, right.
Speaker 3: Everybody's like, yeah, we're not gonna get any calls. Yeah,
Speaker 3: turn the card in, let's go. And then we moved on. So,
Speaker 3: if you go back and look at all the picks
Speaker 3: in that first round, the Eagles had the quickest pick
Speaker 3: because I that time was like you, I'm sick of
Speaker 3: waiting around.
Speaker 2: For you to pick when you know who you're gonna take.
Speaker 3: Take the guy, move on, let's and then they shorten
Speaker 3: the rounds, which I think is a really really good
Speaker 3: thing they did.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd love to get it down till minute, but
Speaker 6: I don't think they're gonna do that.
Speaker 8: It's not fantasy football hockey fan.
Speaker 2: I think hockey does that. Hockey's got a really quick one.
Speaker 2: I think they don't. Yeah, they don't mess around in hockey.
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Speaker 6: Let's jump into Stephen Jones comments. There were a few
Speaker 6: comments that he made yesterday. I thought we were interested
Speaker 6: in that. Pulled out Brady and give us an opportunity
Speaker 6: to talk about the first one. He was talking about
Speaker 6: what they did in free agency, and he was talking
Speaker 6: about the fact that he feels like they did enough
Speaker 6: in free agency to where they are in a position
Speaker 6: now going into the draft where they can choose the
Speaker 6: best available player. Simple question for you guys, Do you
Speaker 6: guys agree with that? Do you feel like they've done
Speaker 6: enough where they really don't have to reach for any
Speaker 6: position here at the draft.
Speaker 2: I absolutely think so. I mean me personally, I love
Speaker 2: the use of the.
Speaker 3: Draft picks, of the compensatory picks to go out and
Speaker 3: grab a corner. There was some questions like it's a
Speaker 3: deep draft when we look at the corners and stuff
Speaker 3: and what rounds. But to go out and get a
Speaker 3: veteran corner that's still playing at a high level, it
Speaker 3: keeps you from having to maybe address that really early
Speaker 3: in the draft. You know, you look at what they
Speaker 3: did with the wide receiver. There's so much chaos in
Speaker 3: that wide receiver room. Yeah, which you did. You got
Speaker 3: a smaller guy, but you got a guy that's proven.
Speaker 3: You got a guy that people know about, that you
Speaker 3: can use and how to use, and you don't have
Speaker 3: the questions of like, Okay, if I take a Cooks,
Speaker 3: Cooks would be perfect in this draft because he kind
Speaker 3: of fits the profile of some of the top players.
Speaker 3: But you know, Cooks, these other ones, the Zay Flowers
Speaker 3: from Boston College, you know, the downs from North Carolina,
Speaker 3: smaller guys, but we haven't seen him play at an
Speaker 3: NFL level. So now that kind of takes the Cowboys like, Okay,
Speaker 3: we don't have to address that early you know, I
Speaker 3: really do like what they did.
Speaker 2: I said this earlier. I really do believe this.
Speaker 3: They can now draft and just say take that guy,
Speaker 3: Take that guy, Take that guy with out the pressure
Speaker 3: of having to force a pick, maybe like they did
Speaker 3: several years ago with a Taco Charlton, you know that
Speaker 3: kind of situation.
Speaker 8: I mean, it comes down to Jake Ferguson, you know,
Speaker 8: that tight end and then whoever, whatever they feel like
Speaker 8: is their left guard right now, is it Juma Edoga
Speaker 8: or Tyler Smith, and then however that works out. But
Speaker 8: to me, there are some plug and play opportunities, and
Speaker 8: I think tight end and guard maybe linebacker, running back
Speaker 8: would be the guys that you would take there that
Speaker 8: would come right in and play. And so that's where
Speaker 8: I would lean towards, is like, yeah, you can take
Speaker 8: all those guys and if this year ceedee Lamb's falling
Speaker 8: to them, then they have to consider it. But I
Speaker 8: think tiebreakers should be the guys that the plug and
Speaker 8: play that could play. And that's why to me, left
Speaker 8: guard would still be a tight end I think could
Speaker 8: be up there. But I'm a fan of Jake Ferguson
Speaker 8: and Peyton Endershye. If you didn't draft a tight end
Speaker 8: at all, I would okay, I think it would be fine.
Speaker 8: I mean, yeah, you would prefer one. But they're getting
Speaker 8: these guys. They're getting undrafted free agent tight ends almost
Speaker 8: every year, So I trust lounded Wells in that group
Speaker 8: to to figure it out even if you didn't draft one. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think they've done an excellent job this free agency
Speaker 4: addressing every position and just allowing themselves to actually pick
Speaker 4: the best talent on the board. The only only position
Speaker 4: that I think still needs to be addressed is kicker.
Speaker 4: But at the same time, that's not like you use
Speaker 4: a draft pick on a kicker anyways. So other than that,
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm being going through my head, like all
Speaker 4: the positions, and I feel like there's really obviously, like
Speaker 4: nick mentioned, areas that we know you're gonna need to
Speaker 4: play in a player and be a starter right off
Speaker 4: the bat. But at the same time, there are no
Speaker 4: necessarily big holes where you're like, Okay, if we have
Speaker 4: to play a game tonight, I think we could actually
Speaker 4: play a game.
Speaker 6: Yeah, let's talk about the tight end position, because Nicki
Speaker 6: brought it up and Steven talked about it on the show,
Speaker 6: and one of the things that stood out to me.
Speaker 6: He was talking about tight ends and what you look
Speaker 6: for and tight ends, and he was talking about how
Speaker 6: rare it is to find a tight end that does
Speaker 6: both well, talking about blocking and past catching. Looking at
Speaker 6: the guys that are in this draft particularly, do you
Speaker 6: see those types of guys in this draft? Because I've
Speaker 6: always said I don't I agree with you, Nick, like,
Speaker 6: I don't know that I would necessarily feel like I
Speaker 6: need to go out and get a tight end. However,
Speaker 6: the one caveat to that is, either if there's a
Speaker 6: tight end who is a Travis Kelce type, the type
Speaker 6: that is a huge mismatch that I can line up everywhere,
Speaker 6: so it's like drafting more of a pass catcher than yeah,
Speaker 6: than just a tight end. Or if you tell me
Speaker 6: I could find a guy who is really good at
Speaker 6: both he can now block and add something to the
Speaker 6: run game and still catch passes. Because I don't know
Speaker 6: that any of the tight ends on this team you
Speaker 6: would consider to be great blockers. What do we have
Speaker 6: in the way of those kinds of prospects at the
Speaker 6: tight end position?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate.
Speaker 3: Majors asked the question, and he asked me if you
Speaker 3: could ask Stephen Jones a question, what would you ask?
Speaker 2: And he used my question so.
Speaker 3: Because I was trying to figure out there's two questions
Speaker 3: of trying to figure out who's going to play left
Speaker 3: guard with Tyler Smith, what's going to happen there? Because
Speaker 3: if they immediately say Tyler Smith is going to play
Speaker 3: left guard, then I think you can eliminate.
Speaker 2: Early a guard being picked here. I really do.
Speaker 3: And then the next question I had was if the traits,
Speaker 3: what are the traits you're looking for? And to tie
Speaker 3: it in, they obviously have a couple of guys that
Speaker 3: can get up the field, can catch with with Hindershott
Speaker 3: and Ferguson, maybe not as good as blockers. Okay, now
Speaker 3: if you say, well, the blocking part, it's hard to
Speaker 3: find a guy. Mayor tight In from Notre Dame can
Speaker 3: do both. Washington tight End from Georgia can do both.
Speaker 3: When you start talking about Kenkaid Utah guys that really
Speaker 3: not a great blocker, Musgrave Oregon State not a great blocker,
Speaker 3: but down the field players. So if the Cowboys at
Speaker 3: twenty six are going to try and to dress a
Speaker 3: blocking situation, a duel guy Mayor from Notre Dame Washington
Speaker 3: from Georgia. Those are the two guys that you would
Speaker 3: probably consider that gives you a little clear path to
Speaker 3: what they're looking for there.
Speaker 2: It's they say, he's right the way the college game is.
Speaker 3: It's very rare that you have these what they call
Speaker 3: in line tight ends or tight ends that line up
Speaker 3: next to the tackle and block.
Speaker 2: Very rare.
Speaker 8: Who is the best complete tight end in the NFL?
Speaker 8: I mean, I I get, I get Kelsey, Kelsey and
Speaker 8: Kill are the two best. And because they're so great.
Speaker 3: But Kittle blocks, YEA, Kittles can block and that and that,
Speaker 3: and that's the thing Kelsey is. Kelsey doesn't really want
Speaker 3: to do that. I mean, but you know he's a
Speaker 3: kind of a getting away. You watch Kittle and then
Speaker 3: used check and they get both of them on the
Speaker 3: same side. It's coming down hill at you real fast.
Speaker 3: You know that kind of thing.
Speaker 8: Kill is probably the most complete and the most completely.
Speaker 6: The thing is their games where Kittle doesn't really have
Speaker 6: a lot of catches, but you watch him closely, he's
Speaker 6: making blocks like he that use him. It's just he's
Speaker 6: not one is going to always Kelsey in every game.
Speaker 6: He's going to get off because that's just a part
Speaker 6: of their offense, and he's going to be catching passes.
Speaker 2: They run the.
Speaker 3: Ball behind Kittle, Yeah, you know, they really do. And
Speaker 3: they've got a really they've got a good offensive line.
Speaker 3: They got a physical running game, and a lot of
Speaker 3: it starts because of what Kittle does at the point
Speaker 3: of attack.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but I also look at at Witting his first year.
Speaker 8: I look at Dalton Schultz his first two years, and
Speaker 8: I'm not saying either one of them became these great blockers,
Speaker 8: but they were getting the way blockers enough, especially Witten,
Speaker 8: and I think Ferguson coming from Wisconsin running the football
Speaker 8: the way is I just give him a year. Give
Speaker 8: let's see what happened this year. Hendershot as well. Hender
Speaker 8: SHOT's got a frame that you can put ten to
Speaker 8: fifteen pounds on good weight.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's a light tight I'd like to see.
Speaker 8: I just want to see what those two guys have
Speaker 8: and and but it gets kind of weird. You draft
Speaker 8: a tight end first, second, third round. Now they're going
Speaker 8: to be in the mix. You start getting later on
Speaker 8: to address that position, and are they going to be
Speaker 8: better than what you have? Probably not?
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I think that the later you get in
Speaker 3: this draft, though, I'll throw a name, you know, his
Speaker 3: name exactly. Strange from Penn State was like a fourth
Speaker 3: round type of a guy player one oh seven on
Speaker 3: my stack, you know, I think him Wiley from Cincinnati,
Speaker 3: uh Latto from Alabama. These guys are more you're giving
Speaker 3: up downfield stuff to get more blocking, to get more.
Speaker 3: But those are all like I say, those are all
Speaker 3: more more like Allen from Clemson. Guys that kind of
Speaker 3: are are good blockers, but not like why you know,
Speaker 3: there's a reason why they're talking about all those other
Speaker 3: guys at the top of the board. And then as
Speaker 3: we get to you know, tight end one oh seven,
Speaker 3: tight end one twenty one, tight end one twenty six,
Speaker 3: tight end one thirty eight, That's that's how they stack.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 8: I had a question about Darnell Washington and Georgia. Yeah,
Speaker 8: if Bowers the tight end, who's going to be probably
Speaker 8: a first round.
Speaker 2: Pick, well he'd be maybe a top ten.
Speaker 8: He's unbelievable Georgia. If he wasn't there, would Washington have
Speaker 8: would he be more of a pass guess.
Speaker 2: Or would Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think that to me, I was watching, Uh, I
Speaker 3: was watching Stetson Bennett one day, the quarterback at Georgia,
Speaker 3: and you're watching him throw the ball, throw the ball,
Speaker 3: and they get down in the red zone, and every
Speaker 3: time they're throwing the ball to Washington to tight end
Speaker 3: and and like that. Every time they me you know,
Speaker 3: Bowers is making plays, he's like kind of the throw
Speaker 3: it to him and run guy. Where Washington is the Hey,
Speaker 3: we're in the red zone, you're six seven, you're two
Speaker 3: hundred and sixty two hundred and sixty two pounds. Nobody
Speaker 3: can cover you. I mean, that's that's where Stetson bitnick.
Speaker 3: That's where Stetson Benning. It's not it's I mean there's
Speaker 3: times you watch Washington catch the ball and run, not
Speaker 3: like Bowers, but but you watch him in the red zone.
Speaker 3: It's like, damn, he threw it to him again, and
Speaker 3: it's like it's like they have nobody on the other
Speaker 3: side of the field that can cover him.
Speaker 8: Like he's a rebound type guy goes at the guy. Yeah,
Speaker 8: Martell's yeah.
Speaker 2: See that's martellas See.
Speaker 3: That's why that's why I think you need to be
Speaker 3: alert about Washington here, because Jerry Jones' vision for what
Speaker 3: Martell's Bennett was Yeah, they drafted Martelli's Bennett with that
Speaker 3: thought of look at this guy, kind of a mismatch.
Speaker 3: And I think I think Washington is a better foot
Speaker 3: athlete than what Bennett is left football. I think he
Speaker 3: loves football more than what year we're at. But but hey,
Speaker 3: it's good to have other interest.
Speaker 2: You don't have to love football all the time.
Speaker 6: That's a good point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to have other interest.
Speaker 8: All right, man could could have gained thirty pounds and
Speaker 8: would have been the best right tackle left.
Speaker 3: Okay, there's there's Jason Peters. Well that's the thought. That's
Speaker 3: the thought maybe Washington. Really that's the thought that maybe
Speaker 3: this this era of football with for Washington could be
Speaker 3: at six seven, he's two sixty two, two sixty four.
Speaker 2: Do you bulk him up and make him? Is he?
Speaker 2: This is he? This era's Jason Peters?
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, all right, let's get one more hit
Speaker 6: topic real quick that we want to hit on. Stephen Jones.
Speaker 6: He was talking about Tyler Smith and he was talking
Speaker 6: about continuing to have him at left tackle. He says
Speaker 6: it not totally committed to anything yet. He says, ideally
Speaker 6: they would love to keep him there. And have him
Speaker 6: continue to work there. My question for you guys, is
Speaker 6: there any scenario for you, and this is not thinking
Speaker 6: about the Cowboy's just for you. Is there any scenario
Speaker 6: where you would not have Tyler Smith as your starting
Speaker 6: left tackle when the season begins.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's the scenario of a practice where they're like,
Speaker 8: Tyron Smith looks like he's turned back the clock. Tyron
Speaker 8: Smith looks like he has looked ten years ago, six
Speaker 8: years ago, and Terrence Steele has been unbelievable. He's back,
Speaker 8: He's ready to go. Like, what are we gonna do?
Speaker 8: And we can't. Nobody at left guard can block. This
Speaker 8: guy can't block. That's my scenario, Like, all right, shift now,
Speaker 8: how long will it last?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 8: But but Tyler Smith was like a yo.
Speaker 2: Yo back shift.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, shift happens.
Speaker 2: I think there's I'm sorry, I'm jaded. I'm jaded.
Speaker 3: I would not to talk about moving Terrett Stiell to
Speaker 3: left guard. Oh makes me and and I and everybody
Speaker 3: knows my thing with Terrence Steele. Everybody knows that. And
Speaker 3: I apologize. I can't apologize, Marvin. I apologized to Dave
Speaker 3: Campo for not doing a good enough job for him
Speaker 3: while he was here as a head coach.
Speaker 2: But this is one of you.
Speaker 3: I just man, there is such a good combination between
Speaker 3: Martin and Steele at right on that right side there
Speaker 3: really is. They run the ball better when those two
Speaker 3: were together. And to put him at left guard, I
Speaker 3: think we'd see some of those Connor Williams things. I
Speaker 3: think we would see a little bit of a struggle
Speaker 3: with power. I'm not saying it's going to happen every
Speaker 3: single time, but I think there would be a little bit.
Speaker 2: I think they I would hope that they learned their
Speaker 2: lesson there.
Speaker 3: I think Tyler Smith is going would be is going
Speaker 3: to be a hell of a left tackle.
Speaker 2: I really really do.
Speaker 3: I think that for what he was able to do
Speaker 3: play guard and to jump in there and not be
Speaker 3: a not be a detriment at all. But man, I
Speaker 3: just can't I can't see it right now. I can't
Speaker 3: see him playing left guard. And get I get that
Speaker 3: thought in my mind about Tyron Smith just when I
Speaker 3: want to say that Tyron Smith looks like he's, you know,
Speaker 3: twenty three years old. Again, something happens at a practice
Speaker 3: and you're going, well, when I can see him for
Speaker 3: a while, you know, and then I just can't. I
Speaker 3: can't bring myself to be at that level where I'm like,
Speaker 3: let's go, let's go with those five yeah, because I
Speaker 3: know something's probably gonna happen.
Speaker 4: Well, and then you also always hear the same words
Speaker 4: of like I feel better than I've ever felt, and
Speaker 4: that's just quite impossible after you sustain your body's sustained
Speaker 4: so many injuries. And I think that over the years,
Speaker 4: and to be fair, like Tyron Smith, he has still
Speaker 4: played at a pretty high level, I think, despite all
Speaker 4: his injuries. But over the past couple of years, I
Speaker 4: do think his game has kind of taken a dip,
Speaker 4: a decline. And I get it, Like even last year,
Speaker 4: him playing on the other side, you can see the
Speaker 4: difference in his game. He wasn't the same guy, which
Speaker 4: is fair. You get somebody that's always been playing on
Speaker 4: the other side and then you move him, that's gonna
Speaker 4: be a different You're gonna see a difference there. But
Speaker 4: to Nick scenario, I think we all agree that that's
Speaker 4: kind of a pretty impossible thing to imagine that that's
Speaker 4: gonna happen. But at the end of the day, and
Speaker 4: this always happens, to me where we sit here prior
Speaker 4: to even training camp or prior to the start of
Speaker 4: the season, and we're like, well, what are we gonna
Speaker 4: do with who's gonna play, what where? What's gonna happen? Somehow, someway,
Speaker 4: it always sorts itself out with the O line. I've
Speaker 4: learned and come to realize that it just always finds
Speaker 4: a way to kind of figure things out and things
Speaker 4: kind of start falling into place because something happens to somebody,
Speaker 4: and then now you're left.
Speaker 13: With what you got, which are the guys that are
Speaker 13: ready to get There's a lot of moving pieces though
Speaker 13: now because you have a new offensive line coach there,
Speaker 13: and you think kind of with Joe Philbin, I had
Speaker 13: an idea what they might do because with Joe Philben,
Speaker 13: but with Mike Solari, I'm not so sure.
Speaker 2: Now that's the thing.
Speaker 3: Now I'm going into all those adjustments that you're talking about,
Speaker 3: the ability to shuffle guys around, and Steven Jones talks
Speaker 3: about it all the time. Even on one oh five
Speaker 3: to three, the fan ask them the continuity question, says,
Speaker 3: you'd love continuity. Well, they've come to the point now
Speaker 3: they know they're not going to have continuity. That is
Speaker 3: the NFL today. You are not going to have continuity
Speaker 3: with your offensive line. There's always something that is going
Speaker 3: to happen, and you've got to be ready for it.
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Speaker 8: but I just remember sitting there just working and then
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Speaker 6: And you're just like, that's where we work, man, that's
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Speaker 6: all right. Let's jump into a couple of fan questions.
Speaker 6: Actually got a phone call from Antoine and North Carolina. Antoine,
Speaker 6: what's up.
Speaker 14: Doing?
Speaker 15: Fellas? Not question to you, guys, does position flex Does
Speaker 15: that make a player come off better than someone that's
Speaker 15: a top rank player, or not top rank but rank
Speaker 15: above someone else? Do that make you alter your board
Speaker 15: a little?
Speaker 6: All right, thanks for the call.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I think it does it, but also
Speaker 8: depends on the round. It also depends because if in
Speaker 8: the first round, like I think, it comes down to
Speaker 8: guys that are available to play right now, so I'd
Speaker 8: rather play a guy that's a better, let's say, guard
Speaker 8: right now at twenty six. But if you're talking second
Speaker 8: or third round, this guy is a guard, he's also
Speaker 8: a center, then I think position flex matters more. But
Speaker 8: if I'm drafting a guy in the first round, it's
Speaker 8: because I expect you to be playing on Week one,
Speaker 8: and so position flex doesn't matter as much.
Speaker 2: To be right, then, I.
Speaker 3: Think posision flex is good, but I've also seen it
Speaker 3: kind of wreck a career.
Speaker 2: I've seen Tyrone Crawford.
Speaker 3: They could never find a spot, and now they're dealing
Speaker 3: with these defensive backs, you know, with there trying to
Speaker 3: figure out where these guys are the corners or safeties
Speaker 3: and all that, and then the next thing you know,
Speaker 3: it's you never really found a position. Sometimes position flex
Speaker 3: means you're good enough, but it also can hurt you
Speaker 3: because you're never great at one spot.
Speaker 2: You're never great, you know.
Speaker 3: And I Tyron Crawford, he got a lot of money
Speaker 3: because of Rod MARINELI thought he could play the under
Speaker 3: tackle to the three. He just got too banged up.
Speaker 3: He couldn't play it because they kept trying to figure
Speaker 3: out where to play him. And I think his career
Speaker 3: got shortened because of that.
Speaker 4: Because we also, you're constantly having to change your physique,
Speaker 4: like your body because you change in weight. Okay, you're
Speaker 4: not gonna have the same body type for this position
Speaker 4: as opposed to that, which is something that I heard
Speaker 4: Tyron Crawford talk about a lot having to you know,
Speaker 4: one year we saw him gain weight a little bit.
Speaker 4: Next year he was losing weight. So it's just that
Speaker 4: back and forth having to change constantly.
Speaker 3: It could be a blessing and a curse all in
Speaker 3: the same time, depending on the player.
Speaker 6: Let's take a question from Mayo. He says, if the
Speaker 6: Cowboys draft a wide receiver in the first two rounds,
Speaker 6: does that make drafting a tight end less of a need?
Speaker 6: And he's thinking about target share.
Speaker 8: There possibly and goes back to what I had said before.
Speaker 8: If you don't draft the tight end in the first
Speaker 8: couple of rounds, now he comes in here, is he
Speaker 8: going to be better than what you've got? Possibly? I mean,
Speaker 8: I mean it's it's you could see that, but but
Speaker 8: I just think it's gonna be it's gonna be tough. Now,
Speaker 8: if you draft him the first couple of rounds, then yeah,
Speaker 8: that's why you're drafting him because you're expecting him. Is
Speaker 8: he That's what Jerry's gonna ask he He's gonna point
Speaker 8: is he is he better than what we've got with Ndershot?
Speaker 8: And Ferguson, Oh yeah, Jerry or whatever, then we draft him.
Speaker 8: But if he's not then then then you don't so
Speaker 8: to go back. I didn't answer the question though. I
Speaker 8: was just talking more about tight end. But if you
Speaker 8: get a receiver, yeah, that's just that's more targeted.
Speaker 3: The question that's going to be posed in the draft
Speaker 3: room by Jerry Jones's and they're gonna keep bringing it
Speaker 3: up and it could be a block, It could be
Speaker 3: a block.
Speaker 2: Here is where we are? Where are we with Tolbert?
Speaker 2: Where are we with Tolbert? He goes?
Speaker 3: You guys talked me into this in the third round.
Speaker 3: We have actually talked about this kid in the second
Speaker 3: round last year. I've made the determination we're going to
Speaker 3: take Sam Williams. We got Tolbert in the third. Where
Speaker 3: are we with Tolbert?
Speaker 2: Right now? Does everybody feel about Tolbert? What does everybody
Speaker 2: feel about Gallop? Right now? Was that just one off?
Speaker 2: Did we Is something really wrong with him? You know?
Speaker 3: That's the discussions that need to be had in the room.
Speaker 3: Not so much about would it, you know, would keep
Speaker 3: one guy from catching a ball, But if you're interested in,
Speaker 3: you know, adding a guy, Jerry's gonna ask that question,
Speaker 3: what about what about Tolbert? What about Ferguson, what about
Speaker 3: hinder Shot? You know, tell me about what are we
Speaker 3: gonna do here? When you are we adding something too?
Speaker 3: And so I kind of feel like though you just
Speaker 3: you make the determination. They they don't know what's gonna
Speaker 3: happen with Tolbert, They really don't, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I hope you hope that he plays to
Speaker 2: the level that you thought he was going to play
Speaker 2: when you're drafted him last year.
Speaker 3: And I also hope it doesn't deter them from taking
Speaker 3: a wide receiver that they really like.
Speaker 4: Well, tell them what is out there as far as
Speaker 4: like is it could it because we keep talking for
Speaker 4: the first round, we keep talking about tight end, we
Speaker 4: keep talking about the offensive lineman, even running back if
Speaker 4: somebody falls down. But as far as wide receivers, are
Speaker 4: someone that's talented enough to actually.
Speaker 3: Oh they got talented player, but you're taller than every
Speaker 3: one of them, you know that kind of That's that's
Speaker 3: the thing about this draft.
Speaker 2: That's that's the thing about this.
Speaker 3: Draft, that that you have to figure out of these
Speaker 3: five nine wide receivers, who who is going to be
Speaker 3: the one that fits the best. This coach has a
Speaker 3: history of not taking slot only wide receivers, but they
Speaker 3: visited Flowers from Boston College, kind of a slot only player,
Speaker 3: So you know, maybe things are changing. Maybe Mike McCarthy's like, hey,
Speaker 3: well we can work with this. We you know this
Speaker 3: players too talented. But Flowers, Boston College, Downs, North Carolina,
Speaker 3: Scott Cincinnati. Seriously, you're taller than all of them.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: That's whoever figures this out. Whoever figures this out, it
Speaker 3: could have the best draft at wide receiver. But there's
Speaker 3: a lot of questions about the height and the weight
Speaker 3: of these wide receivers. Yeah, exactly, but slot only, right, yeah,
Speaker 3: only you know if they take if they take you know,
Speaker 3: if you if you.
Speaker 4: Take saying there are those guys, I can still be
Speaker 4: for that absolutely.
Speaker 6: But they got on a free agency I mean, yeah,
Speaker 6: that's exactly right.
Speaker 3: If if they're willing, did they did they take their
Speaker 3: receiver in Cooks. That's going to keep them from drafting
Speaker 3: somebody at twenty six. Yeah, that's that's what you but
Speaker 3: you know, that's that's the situation you're gonna have. And
Speaker 3: then throw in like I mentioned, you know the kid
Speaker 3: you drafted last year too. I mean that's going to
Speaker 3: be another question that has to be asked.
Speaker 8: Is there a zero percent chance that Ceedee Lamb does
Speaker 8: not get re signed.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 6: I don't, Yes, zero He's.
Speaker 2: Back, right, And that's Hollard. I don't think so, hollar See.
Speaker 2: I think I think.
Speaker 3: That's where I think that's where if you talk about
Speaker 3: running back and you say, whoever you draft, and this
Speaker 3: draft is deep in running backs, whoever you take it run,
Speaker 3: I think will be your starting running back in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty four. I don't think it'll be Tony Pollard. I
Speaker 3: really Stephen Jones talks about what we'd like to get
Speaker 3: Tony done.
Speaker 2: I could see this being just like Dalton Schultz. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we don't want to lose the weapon.
Speaker 3: You know, there's some questions about his injury coming back,
Speaker 3: but him, Britt Brown, those guys will work their rears
Speaker 3: off to get back on on the field. But there's
Speaker 3: I think that you know, it's going to be a
Speaker 3: situation where Tony Pollard making the money now ten million dollars,
Speaker 3: Tony Pollard might be fortunate to get ten million dollars
Speaker 3: for three years.
Speaker 2: You know, in the next time around yeah, and free agency.
Speaker 8: Yeah, running backs and agents. I mean, it's a really
Speaker 8: tough situation for these agents to kind of figure out
Speaker 8: the best thing because a lot of these guys they
Speaker 8: see the guy next to him in their locker and
Speaker 8: he's a different position. He's like, second contract is time
Speaker 8: to get the bag. As a running back, you want
Speaker 8: to stay in the league, and the best way to
Speaker 8: stay in the league is maybe to take, like Brian said,
Speaker 8: a deal that's it's like this will this will protect
Speaker 8: you because Zeke was like and Zeke deserved it. They
Speaker 8: ran him to death. He and he deserved that money
Speaker 8: that he got. But it's tough when you're at this
Speaker 8: this part in their career. I mean, you look at
Speaker 8: the top ten players on this team as far as
Speaker 8: experience on the team, Tony Pollard's eighth. I still view
Speaker 8: him as kind of a younger guy. He's the eighth
Speaker 8: most tenured player on this team, tied for you know others.
Speaker 8: But like, what did that? When did that happen? Isn't
Speaker 8: he this young, shy guy that his parents are a
Speaker 8: barbecue place in Memphis and no, now now he's so.
Speaker 3: They figured out how to use Yeah, it kind of
Speaker 3: it took you kind of figure out.
Speaker 2: They figured out how to finally used.
Speaker 6: Him, man, And that might be actually the reason why
Speaker 6: he actually does have a shot at the second contract,
Speaker 6: because they didn't use him as much as they have
Speaker 6: used traditionally used back to the NFL in the first
Speaker 6: few years.
Speaker 8: What I want to see is is this year's I
Speaker 8: want to I want to know who's this year's Tony
Speaker 8: Pollard in terms of because I was told they, you know,
Speaker 8: they do mock drafts for the next two weeks here
Speaker 8: before leading up to the draft. In every mock draft
Speaker 8: they did, Tony Pollard was drafted in the third or
Speaker 8: fourth round every single time they they wanted to take
Speaker 8: Tony Powler. I just wanted, who's this year's guy, that
Speaker 8: guy that we're taking him? Well, regardless, Switzer was another
Speaker 8: guy like that too.
Speaker 3: That Yeah, you know, if you want to throw if
Speaker 3: you want to throw something out there like that, because
Speaker 3: there's plenty of opportunity. There's you know, when you look
Speaker 3: at the draft and we have the draft show coming
Speaker 3: up after our show and we get into these running
Speaker 3: backs a lot. You know, Derek is his school Roshan Johnson.
Speaker 3: If you as much as I love Jon Robinson, Roshan Johnson.
Speaker 3: You know when you when you start to look at
Speaker 3: how they're using and how that's a guy right there,
Speaker 3: when you start talking about that third round could be
Speaker 3: a really.
Speaker 2: Sweet spot if you're nowhere and tear right. No, that's
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: You got great complimentary, great compliment back.
Speaker 3: He catches the ball, he's always finishing forward.
Speaker 2: They did a great job.
Speaker 3: At Texas using both those backs and featuring really both
Speaker 3: those backs.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep.
Speaker 6: And I think it's going to help ro Shan in
Speaker 6: the NFL. I really do. Guy came out of high
Speaker 6: schools as a quarterback, yeah, and transition to running back.
Speaker 6: So he's a bigger guy, taller guy.
Speaker 2: All Right.
Speaker 6: I appreciate you guys going to be back next week
Speaker 6: heading into the draft. It'll be draft week. Well we'll talk.
Speaker 6: We's got some names next week. We'll get Brian and
Speaker 6: Nick and Amber to give you guys some names on
Speaker 6: some players they.
Speaker 3: Expect to I don't know if this anymore.
Speaker 6: Call out on Thursday night, Friday night, and then again
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