WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Best Player vs. Need 0:00:02.560 --> 0:00:04.960 Following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 0:00:05.040 --> 0:00:06.520 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:16.239 Cowboys Let's go. Are you ready for a break? 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:16.759 Yes? 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:18.640 Are you ready for a break? 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:19.440 Absolutely? 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:21.440 Ready for a break? 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:25.439 Yeah, And so much for that. It's time for the 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:28.240 Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:31.000 We were on right with Nick Eatman. 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:35.640 Brian brought us and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:41.480 It is Wednesday, April nineteenth, twenty twenty three, Season nineteen, 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:43.920 episode number three. Welcome to the latest edition of the 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:48.000 Break LIFESWBC Mortgage Studios at the Star got Nick Eatmon. 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:50.840 Brian brought us Ambergarcia here with me. We got about 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:53.240 forty five minutes with you guys, and we'll be talking 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:56.120 about it a little bit of everything today. Stephen Jones 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:59.160 was on the fan our partner station yesterday. He had 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:01.040 some interesting things to say. We'll go through some of 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:03.480 that stuff. We're going to get to some fan questions. 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:06.399 I've been promising this for the last couple shows. We've 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:07.040 been trying to do that. 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:07.399 Today. 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:09.600 We'll take some phone calls eight eight eight eight five 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:11.720 five two two ninety seven. You can hit us up. 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:15.160 Jazz is sitting there waiting and ready for you guys 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:17.160 to call in. So so go ahead and call in. 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:19.600 We'd love to hear from you, hear some questions and 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:22.720 get these guys thinking let's start first. That was a question. 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:24.760 I think that that just kind of sets the stage 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:26.640 for where we are at this point. That I got 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:29.520 from Richard on Twitter. He says, is it more hectic 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:31.920 in the building now that's closer to the draft? Are 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:35.000 there more scouts just running around? What happens at this point? 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:37.640 We're eight days out from the NFL Draft. What's going 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:38.600 on in the building. 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:42.400 At this point seems pretty quiet? I mean, I think 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:46.280 is always like considered the calm before the storm. I 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:48.160 don't know, I don't know. Brian will tell you more 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:50.240 about what the scouts are running around, but I mean 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:52.560 I feel like they've probably getting their ducks in a 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:54.480 row a little bit, probably doing a lot of calling 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:57.040 to other teams, trying to see where other teams are 0:01:57.040 --> 0:01:57.600 feeling out. 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:01.680 Yeah, there's a in Nick's right, there's a certain calmness 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:04.560 about it. It's not so much running around. You finished up, 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:06.880 you know, they had some of the thirty visit guys. 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:10.200 Maybe the schedules don't quite work with trying to get 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:12.359 everybody in a certain time period. There is a time 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:15.720 where the league says you can't bring players here. Yeah, 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:16.600 so you're yeah, you're. 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:19.359 In that mode now. So it's it's the scouts. 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:23.880 It's building boards, it's building your stack, it's building the 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:29.240 board by position by round, and it's a lot of discussions. 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:32.160 And it's really it's it's all set in that one room. 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:35.280 You come out, you eat lunch, might go get a workout, 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:37.360 and then you come back in and you do it. 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:40.600 There's you know, it's actually really a a neat process. 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:42.480 Do you go through each position. 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:45.400 You know, you start with maybe your highest graded player 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:48.000 or you might be starting in alphabetical order, and work 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:50.160 your way all through until you get done with the position, 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:52.480 and then you move on to the next. So it's 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:55.720 a it's a pretty just u It's it's almost like 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:58.200 the movie Groundhog Day, if you've ever seen with Bill Murray, 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:00.760 where you live the same day over and over and 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:04.240 over again. But the word hectic or running around I 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:06.080 wouldn't use in this case. 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:09.800 I was going to say people I've run into people 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:13.160 that are actually in the war room and during the 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:15.480 draft day, everyone I've run into that. I'm like, hey, 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:18.440 how's he going draft? You know, you do get that 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:21.400 sense of stress, that sense of which is normal because 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:24.680 you have so much going on and you're so busy 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:27.440 and kind of running around. But I think that happens 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:30.760 every single year, with every single draft that comes around. 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:34.000 Yeah, the pressure that scouts that you run into feel 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:38.200 is having to present the player because this is really 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:42.080 the first opportunity that Jerry and Steven have to get 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:44.680 to and maybe Mike McCarthy too, have got to see 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:46.720 the player, and you want to be able to give 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:50.320 the player his due and as well as his team drafts. 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:53.320 You want to present in a way that makes that 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:56.800 player in that light, whether the good things the player does, 0:03:56.880 --> 0:03:59.080 the things he might need to work on, where he 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:01.120 fits in the stack, where he fits on the board. 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:03.040 There's not a pressure on you to do that. 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:05.000 Because there might be some guys in your areas you're 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:07.960 driving around that you're like, man, I really like this kid. 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:10.240 I would love for us to draft this guy. So 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:13.440 you don't want to let that player down and let 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:15.880 yourself down that you didn't do a good enough job 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:18.599 presenting the player. That's that's a lot of the stress 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:19.599 that these guys feel. 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:21.960 Yeah, it's a ton of meetings and everybody I talked 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:23.359 to you on that side of the building all is 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:27.440 like meeting after meeting after meeting after meeting. Well, I 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:28.440 know that's our world too. 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:29.920 Well, let's go. We've done. 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:32.920 You're in an unusual situation here and I've lived it 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:36.920 myself because Jerry and Steven and this is this is 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:39.080 just you know, this is because your owner is the 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:42.680 general manager. He also has other businesses too, so he 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:46.160 has to carve out time to be so you work 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:48.720 around their schedule as well. So it could be a 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:51.240 little bit of a you know, hey, we got six 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:53.360 hours blocked, Okay, we got to take an hour off. 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:55.400 Now we're gonna go another four hours. You know, it's 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:58.559 kind of a it's it's very unique, but it works 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:00.479 for these guys. They do a really good job about it. 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:04.440 Let's real quick, Brian. You mentioned the board for those 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:07.160 people out there that are listening that aren't regular listeners 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:10.000 to the Draft show and may not understand how that 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:14.159 all works. Just quickly, in a quick two minute assessment. 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:15.159 You're asking me to do something I can't do. How 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:16.320 do you how do. 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:18.560 You build a board like they are all these names, 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:21.000 and obviously there are you know, some people might think, well, 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:22.800 you literally just list them all in order of how 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:24.680 you'd like to take them. But how does that all work? 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:26.080 How does the what are you trying to get to 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:27.520 when you're building your board? 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:27.840 Yeah? 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:30.640 If in my my other job is working on one 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:32.400 oh five three the fan, and I'm going to post 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:35.039 my board on our website, so you have an idea, 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:38.080 I do it exactly how you know. I learned the 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:40.960 Cowboys the Packers back in the day and putting a 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:42.800 board out there. I'm going to put a stack up 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:45.760 for you too, from one to two to two ten 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:47.680 on the players I've looked at and what order I 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:50.480 would take them. It's really to me, you're all too 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:52.920 ten I did I put in order of how would 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:53.240 take them? 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:55.480 From one to two? Ten is what I would do. 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:58.560 And so it's you know, you're kind of thinking about, Okay, 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:00.800 how do you you know, how does this go compared 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:04.120 to this defensive tackle, How does this corner compare to 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:06.840 this wide receiver? How would I how do I feel 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:09.160 about I have to go back and read some of 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:10.919 my notes and say, okay, I like this guy a 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:11.679 little bit better. 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:13.080 That's what they're doing in there. 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:14.920 I mean, let me catch off real quick and ask 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:18.800 you you doing your board based off of all the teams? 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:21.360 Are the Cowboys doing their board based off of all 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:24.720 the teams? If the number one player on Kansas City's board, 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:26.320 if the number one player is a quarterback, is he 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:28.800 number one on their board? And on they have Patrick Mahomes. 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:31.279 No, that's that's the thing that its talking about the Cowboys. 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:32.920 The Cowboys do the teams do. 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:35.080 The board based off of where they would pick them 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:35.760 based off. 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:38.039 That's yeah, you don't want a window dresser board. You know, 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:39.840 you don't care about the outside anything. 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:40.920 I don't care. No, I don't care. 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:43.000 You just you're looking at your You're looking at your 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:45.400 particular team, and you got to even though you have 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:49.039 Patrick Mahomes, you have to give these players their due 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:51.160 and you have to say, Okay, if we were drafting, 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:54.599 if we were drafted, where would we put up Bryce 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:58.520 Young quarterback Alabama? Is Bryce Young in our stack? When 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:01.680 we go one to two fifty or how many other players? 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:03.839 They usually put about one hundred fifty players on their board. 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:06.600 So from one to one fifty, where would we put 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:09.920 Bryce Young in that and what one of the great 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:13.280 examples of the Cowboys getting their board right was if 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:15.520 you go back to the Johnny Manziel draft where they 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:19.160 had Zach Martin and they lose Ryan Shazeer, who's the 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:22.480 tag ahead of them, and then Alsten chazers off the board. 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:24.000 Who's the next guy, Zach Martin. 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:28.480 Jerry Jones, general manager, goes, Johnny Manziel's tax is still there, guys, 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:30.880 So now he brings it up in the room. Everybody 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:33.880 kind of goes, but Jerry, Zach Martin is our next, 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:37.240 our tag. That's that's that's the work that we did. 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:39.640 We're you know, we're not window dressing our board. We're 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:41.800 not just putting guys up there to put them up there. 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:44.160 We're putting up there how we would take them, you know, 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:47.120 because if Kansas City got if they're at at thirty 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:49.920 one and Bryce Young, who they put at second maybe 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:53.520 on their board, is there, they should take by all means, 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:56.040 should take Bryce Young is what they should do if 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:57.920 they're if they're true to their stack and. 0:07:57.920 --> 0:07:59.640 Their board, and do what with them? 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:00.520 Trade them? 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:02.760 I think, you know, I think keeping I think you 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:04.600 keep them in there, you keep you hold on you 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:04.920 never know. 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:07.320 I mean, the teams play without, they play without your 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:08.080 quarterback every. 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:10.560 Once so well, true as thing like what a. 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:12.480 Parcel that would be a luxury pick, then we are. 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:15.280 We're in the talent acquisition business. So you try to 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:17.280 get the best talent you can and by at some 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:18.840 point it's going to be valuable to you, whether it 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:20.560 is a trade or work you actually ready to play 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:20.960 the player. 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:21.760 I think too though. 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:24.800 It's to me the great thing that the Cowboys have 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:27.320 been able to do under Will McClay and his administration 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:30.760 is like when a CD Lamb becomes available, you know 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:34.160 everybody had them, taking Chase on the defensive end from 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:38.000 or outside linebacker from LSU, everybody, you know, everybody had them. 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:39.280 It's oh, they're taking it in and they're taking it 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:41.200 in and taking it in. And the night of the draft, 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:43.120 we're all like, they hand in the CD Lamb card 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:45.280 and you're going, my god, they did it. They actually 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:47.400 took the best player on their board. And I think 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:49.520 the Cowboys at twenty six are set up that way 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:52.600 right now. Whatever pick they make at twenty six is 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:53.800 a pick that's going to help them. 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:55.040 It really really is. 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:57.400 Whether it's a guard, whether it's a tight end, whether 0:08:57.400 --> 0:09:00.400 it's a wide receiver, whether it's a corner linebacker, that 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:04.000 they're set up in a way now that whatever player 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:06.040 falls to them on their board, they'll be good to go. 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:08.560 That's like a call in our before we go to 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:10.960 our first break, we had a call from Jim in Pasadena, California. 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:16.439 Jim, What up? Jem? Hey Jim? How are we doing? 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:19.120 I'm fine? How are you this morning? 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:22.600 Just turned under radio? We're good? Okay? 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:25.160 Should I turn mine down? Is that what you're telling? 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:25.600 Please do? 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:28.760 That's what you got for? 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:30.640 Okay? Thank you. 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:34.040 You know, they're talking about drafting a quarterback that falls, 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:36.960 and I'm wondering, can you if one falls and you 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:40.959 take them and another team doesn't anticipate you doing that, 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:42.920 and they get on the horn and go, look, we'll 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:46.040 give you a bouquet of picks and this very same draft, 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:49.720 can you trade a guy you just drafted in the 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:50.439 same draft? 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:51.520 All right? 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:55.640 You know what I don't we've seen it, well, no, 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:56.880 it happened to the NBA all the time. 0:09:56.920 --> 0:09:57.640 It happens the NBA. 0:09:57.720 --> 0:09:59.640 But we've seen it with uh, well what about to 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:01.720 say what it happened with Eli Manning? 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:02.679 Man Yeah, Eli. 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:04.680 Manning and Philip Rivers, you know, all of a sudden, 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:08.840 like the Chargers take the Chargers take Manning and the 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:11.400 Giants get on the horn and say, no, we're gonna, 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:12.600 We're gonna, Well we want. 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:15.119 To trade here, So yes you can, you can absolutely 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:15.600 give you that. 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:20.680 Usually it gets done within the fifteen minutes or however 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:21.960 long it is for the round. 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:24.120 We've done it before in twenty seconds on the clock 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:27.320 before the waves. 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:30.679 People watching the draft, I feel like sometimes it can 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:33.880 feel like it takes forever to make the other pick 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:36.800 and the other team to go. But in reality, when 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:39.320 you're dealing with all that trying to figure out exactly 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:42.199 what to do, that amount of time that you have 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:45.080 to make those big decisions or even pick up the 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:47.959 phone or call somebody or take a phone call and 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:51.000 decide if you want to make any kind of trade, 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:54.160 I mean, it all happens very very quickly, and I 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:55.520 don't know how they managed. 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:58.199 Well, you kind of throw you kind of throw the 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:00.160 chum in the water when you're like your fish and 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:01.640 you throw chum in the water to try and get 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:02.600 the big fish to come up. 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:05.160 And so what you do is pre draft you'll get 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:05.520 on the phone. 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:07.240 When I was working at Pro Personnel, I used to 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:10.040 call all the teams and I'm like, listen, hey, we're 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:12.280 open if you want to do anything, Man, make sure 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:15.160 you give Steven a call. You got the numbers, but hey, 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:17.640 we're ready to be We're here for you. Don't feel 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:19.200 like you can't pick up the phone and not talk 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:20.800 to Dallas because we're open. 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:23.199 And it lets you know just how much they value 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:26.480 other picks down the road. Because they have a guy 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:28.840 that they want to take and they've got six minutes 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:32.080 left on the clock. They're gonna wait. Yep, They're going 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:35.160 to wait to see because they as much as they 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:38.560 like this guy, they also want calls. They want to call. 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:40.480 They want to say maybe we can move back, because 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:42.240 what if we get this guy and other picks. 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:43.840 I'll tell you, Micah, I'll tell you. 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:47.960 In the draft twenty five years ago, I was working 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:49.880 in Philadelphia. I stud in the draft in Philly with 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:52.880 Micha Lombardi and if you look at that round, we 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:55.520 took Trey Thomas and it was the quickest that any 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:59.000 team turned in their card because I hated Ambart. Just 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:01.199 what you said all those years is sitting in the 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:04.200 draft room before that, and and like, you know who 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:06.040 you want to pick, Just pick the damn guy. Let's 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:08.240 go on, let's move on, you know. And at that 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:10.960 time it was fifteen minutes a pick. I think we 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:13.920 handed our cart in with like eight minutes left on 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:16.600 the clock. I'm like, guys, we know who we want, right. 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:19.720 Everybody's like, yeah, we're not gonna get any calls. Yeah, 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:22.680 turn the card in, let's go. And then we moved on. So, 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:24.480 if you go back and look at all the picks 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:27.240 in that first round, the Eagles had the quickest pick 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:30.160 because I that time was like you, I'm sick of 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:31.079 waiting around. 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:32.760 For you to pick when you know who you're gonna take. 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:35.400 Take the guy, move on, let's and then they shorten 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:37.960 the rounds, which I think is a really really good 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:38.560 thing they did. 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:40.079 Yeah, I'd love to get it down till minute, but 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:41.120 I don't think they're gonna do that. 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:42.720 It's not fantasy football hockey fan. 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:47.120 I think hockey does that. Hockey's got a really quick one. 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:49.560 I think they don't. 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All right, let's Chas is 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:24.200 on it. 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:27.120 All right, let's go show right there. 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:32.680 Let's jump into Stephen Jones comments. There were a few 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:34.680 comments that he made yesterday. I thought we were interested 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:37.160 in that. Pulled out Brady and give us an opportunity 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:40.000 to talk about the first one. He was talking about 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:42.320 what they did in free agency, and he was talking 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:44.360 about the fact that he feels like they did enough 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:47.080 in free agency to where they are in a position 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:48.800 now going into the draft where they can choose the 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:51.200 best available player. Simple question for you guys, Do you 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:52.760 guys agree with that? Do you feel like they've done 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:54.920 enough where they really don't have to reach for any 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:56.120 position here at the draft. 0:15:56.720 --> 0:16:00.240 I absolutely think so. I mean me personally, I love 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:00.920 the use of the. 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:03.920 Draft picks, of the compensatory picks to go out and 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:06.360 grab a corner. There was some questions like it's a 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:08.800 deep draft when we look at the corners and stuff 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:10.680 and what rounds. But to go out and get a 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:12.800 veteran corner that's still playing at a high level, it 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:15.200 keeps you from having to maybe address that really early 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:17.560 in the draft. You know, you look at what they 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:19.840 did with the wide receiver. There's so much chaos in 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:22.440 that wide receiver room. Yeah, which you did. You got 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:24.600 a smaller guy, but you got a guy that's proven. 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:27.040 You got a guy that people know about, that you 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:29.160 can use and how to use, and you don't have 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:32.200 the questions of like, Okay, if I take a Cooks, 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:35.040 Cooks would be perfect in this draft because he kind 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:37.840 of fits the profile of some of the top players. 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:41.160 But you know, Cooks, these other ones, the Zay Flowers 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:44.240 from Boston College, you know, the downs from North Carolina, 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:46.440 smaller guys, but we haven't seen him play at an 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:49.560 NFL level. So now that kind of takes the Cowboys like, Okay, 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:52.120 we don't have to address that early you know, I 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:53.520 really do like what they did. 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:55.400 I said this earlier. I really do believe this. 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:58.520 They can now draft and just say take that guy, 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:00.720 Take that guy, Take that guy with out the pressure 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:03.640 of having to force a pick, maybe like they did 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:06.960 several years ago with a Taco Charlton, you know that 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:07.840 kind of situation. 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:13.639 I mean, it comes down to Jake Ferguson, you know, 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:17.960 that tight end and then whoever, whatever they feel like 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:21.359 is their left guard right now, is it Juma Edoga 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:25.280 or Tyler Smith, and then however that works out. But 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:29.560 to me, there are some plug and play opportunities, and 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:32.760 I think tight end and guard maybe linebacker, running back 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:35.359 would be the guys that you would take there that 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:38.520 would come right in and play. And so that's where 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:41.160 I would lean towards, is like, yeah, you can take 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:43.720 all those guys and if this year ceedee Lamb's falling 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:46.679 to them, then they have to consider it. But I 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:50.000 think tiebreakers should be the guys that the plug and 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:51.800 play that could play. And that's why to me, left 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:54.840 guard would still be a tight end I think could 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:57.040 be up there. But I'm a fan of Jake Ferguson 0:17:57.080 --> 0:17:59.040 and Peyton Endershye. If you didn't draft a tight end 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:02.280 at all, I would okay, I think it would be fine. 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:05.440 I mean, yeah, you would prefer one. But they're getting 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:08.320 these guys. They're getting undrafted free agent tight ends almost 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:11.720 every year, So I trust lounded Wells in that group 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:14.960 to to figure it out even if you didn't draft one. Yeah. 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:17.560 I think they've done an excellent job this free agency 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:21.800 addressing every position and just allowing themselves to actually pick 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:26.280 the best talent on the board. The only only position 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:29.199 that I think still needs to be addressed is kicker. 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:32.320 But at the same time, that's not like you use 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:35.919 a draft pick on a kicker anyways. So other than that, 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:38.080 I mean, I'm being going through my head, like all 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:41.399 the positions, and I feel like there's really obviously, like 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:44.080 nick mentioned, areas that we know you're gonna need to 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:47.480 play in a player and be a starter right off 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:49.920 the bat. But at the same time, there are no 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:53.720 necessarily big holes where you're like, Okay, if we have 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:57.360 to play a game tonight, I think we could actually 0:18:57.359 --> 0:18:58.000 play a game. 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:01.960 Yeah, let's talk about the tight end position, because Nicki 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:04.920 brought it up and Steven talked about it on the show, 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:06.560 and one of the things that stood out to me. 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:08.560 He was talking about tight ends and what you look 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:10.199 for and tight ends, and he was talking about how 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:12.720 rare it is to find a tight end that does 0:19:12.800 --> 0:19:17.480 both well, talking about blocking and past catching. Looking at 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:20.720 the guys that are in this draft particularly, do you 0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:23.080 see those types of guys in this draft? Because I've 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:25.080 always said I don't I agree with you, Nick, like, 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:27.560 I don't know that I would necessarily feel like I 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:30.160 need to go out and get a tight end. However, 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:33.320 the one caveat to that is, either if there's a 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:35.920 tight end who is a Travis Kelce type, the type 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:39.360 that is a huge mismatch that I can line up everywhere, 0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:42.080 so it's like drafting more of a pass catcher than yeah, 0:19:42.119 --> 0:19:44.639 than just a tight end. Or if you tell me 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:46.399 I could find a guy who is really good at 0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:49.040 both he can now block and add something to the 0:19:49.119 --> 0:19:52.000 run game and still catch passes. Because I don't know 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:53.520 that any of the tight ends on this team you 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:56.199 would consider to be great blockers. What do we have 0:19:56.280 --> 0:19:58.240 in the way of those kinds of prospects at the 0:19:58.240 --> 0:19:58.959 tight end position? 0:19:59.040 --> 0:19:59.760 Yeah, I appreciate. 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:02.480 Majors asked the question, and he asked me if you 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:04.640 could ask Stephen Jones a question, what would you ask? 0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:07.160 And he used my question so. 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:09.560 Because I was trying to figure out there's two questions 0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:11.600 of trying to figure out who's going to play left 0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:14.320 guard with Tyler Smith, what's going to happen there? Because 0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:16.800 if they immediately say Tyler Smith is going to play 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:19.639 left guard, then I think you can eliminate. 0:20:19.760 --> 0:20:22.760 Early a guard being picked here. I really do. 0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:26.280 And then the next question I had was if the traits, 0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:28.280 what are the traits you're looking for? And to tie 0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:30.720 it in, they obviously have a couple of guys that 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:33.720 can get up the field, can catch with with Hindershott 0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:37.320 and Ferguson, maybe not as good as blockers. Okay, now 0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:39.760 if you say, well, the blocking part, it's hard to 0:20:39.800 --> 0:20:43.520 find a guy. Mayor tight In from Notre Dame can 0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:47.240 do both. Washington tight End from Georgia can do both. 0:20:47.520 --> 0:20:51.560 When you start talking about Kenkaid Utah guys that really 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:55.160 not a great blocker, Musgrave Oregon State not a great blocker, 0:20:55.359 --> 0:20:58.199 but down the field players. So if the Cowboys at 0:20:58.240 --> 0:21:00.320 twenty six are going to try and to dress a 0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:05.560 blocking situation, a duel guy Mayor from Notre Dame Washington 0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:07.760 from Georgia. Those are the two guys that you would 0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:10.439 probably consider that gives you a little clear path to 0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:11.600 what they're looking for there. 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:15.000 It's they say, he's right the way the college game is. 0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:16.920 It's very rare that you have these what they call 0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:19.639 in line tight ends or tight ends that line up 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:21.320 next to the tackle and block. 0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:22.280 Very rare. 0:21:22.359 --> 0:21:25.360 Who is the best complete tight end in the NFL? 0:21:25.800 --> 0:21:28.240 I mean, I I get, I get Kelsey, Kelsey and 0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:31.000 Kill are the two best. And because they're so great. 0:21:31.040 --> 0:21:34.960 But Kittle blocks, YEA, Kittles can block and that and that, 0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:38.359 and that's the thing Kelsey is. Kelsey doesn't really want 0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:40.359 to do that. I mean, but you know he's a 0:21:40.440 --> 0:21:43.600 kind of a getting away. You watch Kittle and then 0:21:43.760 --> 0:21:45.800 used check and they get both of them on the 0:21:45.840 --> 0:21:48.919 same side. It's coming down hill at you real fast. 0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:49.960 You know that kind of thing. 0:21:50.080 --> 0:21:52.520 Kill is probably the most complete and the most completely. 0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:54.600 The thing is their games where Kittle doesn't really have 0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:57.200 a lot of catches, but you watch him closely, he's 0:21:57.240 --> 0:21:59.640 making blocks like he that use him. It's just he's 0:21:59.640 --> 0:22:01.920 not one is going to always Kelsey in every game. 0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:03.440 He's going to get off because that's just a part 0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:05.119 of their offense, and he's going to be catching passes. 0:22:05.200 --> 0:22:05.800 They run the. 0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:09.399 Ball behind Kittle, Yeah, you know, they really do. And 0:22:09.640 --> 0:22:11.680 they've got a really they've got a good offensive line. 0:22:11.680 --> 0:22:13.560 They got a physical running game, and a lot of 0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:15.880 it starts because of what Kittle does at the point 0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:16.280 of attack. 0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:19.520 Yeah, but I also look at at Witting his first year. 0:22:19.560 --> 0:22:22.600 I look at Dalton Schultz his first two years, and 0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:25.919 I'm not saying either one of them became these great blockers, 0:22:25.920 --> 0:22:29.000 but they were getting the way blockers enough, especially Witten, 0:22:29.400 --> 0:22:32.840 and I think Ferguson coming from Wisconsin running the football 0:22:32.840 --> 0:22:34.880 the way is I just give him a year. Give 0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:38.960 let's see what happened this year. Hendershot as well. Hender 0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:41.000 SHOT's got a frame that you can put ten to 0:22:41.040 --> 0:22:42.440 fifteen pounds on good weight. 0:22:42.560 --> 0:22:44.920 Yeah, he's a light tight I'd like to see. 0:22:45.000 --> 0:22:46.879 I just want to see what those two guys have 0:22:47.520 --> 0:22:50.320 and and but it gets kind of weird. You draft 0:22:50.320 --> 0:22:53.399 a tight end first, second, third round. Now they're going 0:22:53.480 --> 0:22:55.480 to be in the mix. You start getting later on 0:22:55.680 --> 0:22:58.479 to address that position, and are they going to be 0:22:58.480 --> 0:22:59.879 better than what you have? Probably not? 0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:02.800 Right, Yeah, I think that the later you get in 0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:05.960 this draft, though, I'll throw a name, you know, his 0:23:06.040 --> 0:23:09.800 name exactly. Strange from Penn State was like a fourth 0:23:09.880 --> 0:23:13.119 round type of a guy player one oh seven on 0:23:13.160 --> 0:23:17.400 my stack, you know, I think him Wiley from Cincinnati, 0:23:17.920 --> 0:23:22.320 uh Latto from Alabama. These guys are more you're giving 0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:27.000 up downfield stuff to get more blocking, to get more. 0:23:27.040 --> 0:23:29.200 But those are all like I say, those are all 0:23:29.240 --> 0:23:32.439 more more like Allen from Clemson. Guys that kind of 0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:35.520 are are good blockers, but not like why you know, 0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:38.480 there's a reason why they're talking about all those other 0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:40.280 guys at the top of the board. And then as 0:23:40.320 --> 0:23:43.359 we get to you know, tight end one oh seven, 0:23:43.440 --> 0:23:46.040 tight end one twenty one, tight end one twenty six, 0:23:46.320 --> 0:23:49.200 tight end one thirty eight, That's that's how they stack. 0:23:49.840 --> 0:23:50.040 You know. 0:23:50.080 --> 0:23:53.520 I had a question about Darnell Washington and Georgia. Yeah, 0:23:53.520 --> 0:23:56.440 if Bowers the tight end, who's going to be probably 0:23:56.440 --> 0:23:57.200 a first round. 0:23:56.960 --> 0:23:58.760 Pick, well he'd be maybe a top ten. 0:23:58.920 --> 0:24:02.840 He's unbelievable Georgia. If he wasn't there, would Washington have 0:24:03.160 --> 0:24:04.960 would he be more of a pass guess. 0:24:04.800 --> 0:24:05.560 Or would Yeah? 0:24:06.119 --> 0:24:09.000 I think that to me, I was watching, Uh, I 0:24:09.080 --> 0:24:13.040 was watching Stetson Bennett one day, the quarterback at Georgia, 0:24:13.280 --> 0:24:15.200 and you're watching him throw the ball, throw the ball, 0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:17.040 and they get down in the red zone, and every 0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:19.200 time they're throwing the ball to Washington to tight end 0:24:19.560 --> 0:24:21.479 and and like that. Every time they me you know, 0:24:21.680 --> 0:24:24.200 Bowers is making plays, he's like kind of the throw 0:24:24.200 --> 0:24:27.760 it to him and run guy. Where Washington is the Hey, 0:24:27.800 --> 0:24:29.720 we're in the red zone, you're six seven, you're two 0:24:29.760 --> 0:24:33.000 hundred and sixty two hundred and sixty two pounds. Nobody 0:24:33.040 --> 0:24:35.960 can cover you. I mean, that's that's where Stetson bitnick. 0:24:36.320 --> 0:24:38.880 That's where Stetson Benning. It's not it's I mean there's 0:24:38.920 --> 0:24:41.879 times you watch Washington catch the ball and run, not 0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:44.320 like Bowers, but but you watch him in the red zone. 0:24:44.600 --> 0:24:47.000 It's like, damn, he threw it to him again, and 0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:49.639 it's like it's like they have nobody on the other 0:24:49.720 --> 0:24:51.040 side of the field that can cover him. 0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:53.440 Like he's a rebound type guy goes at the guy. Yeah, 0:24:53.480 --> 0:24:54.919 Martell's yeah. 0:24:54.560 --> 0:24:56.160 See that's martellas See. 0:24:56.160 --> 0:24:58.040 That's why that's why I think you need to be 0:24:58.080 --> 0:25:02.080 alert about Washington here, because Jerry Jones' vision for what 0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:06.000 Martell's Bennett was Yeah, they drafted Martelli's Bennett with that 0:25:06.119 --> 0:25:08.560 thought of look at this guy, kind of a mismatch. 0:25:08.600 --> 0:25:11.960 And I think I think Washington is a better foot 0:25:12.000 --> 0:25:15.600 athlete than what Bennett is left football. I think he 0:25:15.680 --> 0:25:18.160 loves football more than what year we're at. But but hey, 0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:19.680 it's good to have other interest. 0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:21.400 You don't have to love football all the time. 0:25:21.480 --> 0:25:22.200 That's a good point. 0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:23.359 Yeah, you have to have other interest. 0:25:23.440 --> 0:25:26.240 All right, man could could have gained thirty pounds and 0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:28.920 would have been the best right tackle left. 0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:32.920 Okay, there's there's Jason Peters. Well that's the thought. That's 0:25:32.960 --> 0:25:35.879 the thought maybe Washington. Really that's the thought that maybe 0:25:36.000 --> 0:25:39.760 this this era of football with for Washington could be 0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:43.480 at six seven, he's two sixty two, two sixty four. 0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:45.800 Do you bulk him up and make him? Is he? 0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:48.920 This is he? This era's Jason Peters? 0:25:49.000 --> 0:25:51.320 Yeah, you know, all right, let's get one more hit 0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:54.119 topic real quick that we want to hit on. Stephen Jones. 0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:57.680 He was talking about Tyler Smith and he was talking 0:25:57.680 --> 0:26:00.480 about continuing to have him at left tackle. He says 0:26:00.520 --> 0:26:02.800 it not totally committed to anything yet. He says, ideally 0:26:02.800 --> 0:26:04.680 they would love to keep him there. And have him 0:26:04.680 --> 0:26:07.080 continue to work there. My question for you guys, is 0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:09.640 there any scenario for you, and this is not thinking 0:26:09.640 --> 0:26:11.760 about the Cowboy's just for you. Is there any scenario 0:26:12.040 --> 0:26:14.879 where you would not have Tyler Smith as your starting 0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:16.600 left tackle when the season begins. 0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:20.679 Yeah, it's the scenario of a practice where they're like, 0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:24.240 Tyron Smith looks like he's turned back the clock. Tyron 0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:27.800 Smith looks like he has looked ten years ago, six 0:26:27.880 --> 0:26:31.080 years ago, and Terrence Steele has been unbelievable. He's back, 0:26:31.119 --> 0:26:32.639 He's ready to go. Like, what are we gonna do? 0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:35.240 And we can't. Nobody at left guard can block. This 0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:39.680 guy can't block. That's my scenario, Like, all right, shift now, 0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:40.920 how long will it last? 0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:41.520 I don't know. 0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:43.760 But but Tyler Smith was like a yo. 0:26:43.760 --> 0:26:45.159 Yo back shift. 0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:46.880 Yeah, yeah, shift happens. 0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:53.560 I think there's I'm sorry, I'm jaded. I'm jaded. 0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:57.240 I would not to talk about moving Terrett Stiell to 0:26:57.359 --> 0:27:01.840 left guard. Oh makes me and and I and everybody 0:27:01.880 --> 0:27:04.679 knows my thing with Terrence Steele. Everybody knows that. And 0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:07.800 I apologize. I can't apologize, Marvin. I apologized to Dave 0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:10.239 Campo for not doing a good enough job for him 0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:11.520 while he was here as a head coach. 0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:12.320 But this is one of you. 0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:15.480 I just man, there is such a good combination between 0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:18.200 Martin and Steele at right on that right side there 0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:20.760 really is. They run the ball better when those two 0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:23.040 were together. And to put him at left guard, I 0:27:23.040 --> 0:27:25.600 think we'd see some of those Connor Williams things. I 0:27:25.600 --> 0:27:28.000 think we would see a little bit of a struggle 0:27:28.080 --> 0:27:29.840 with power. I'm not saying it's going to happen every 0:27:29.880 --> 0:27:32.280 single time, but I think there would be a little bit. 0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:33.840 I think they I would hope that they learned their 0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:34.520 lesson there. 0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:38.680 I think Tyler Smith is going would be is going 0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:40.000 to be a hell of a left tackle. 0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:41.360 I really really do. 0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:44.040 I think that for what he was able to do 0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:46.359 play guard and to jump in there and not be 0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:49.320 a not be a detriment at all. But man, I 0:27:49.440 --> 0:27:52.040 just can't I can't see it right now. I can't 0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:56.960 see him playing left guard. And get I get that 0:27:57.000 --> 0:28:00.480 thought in my mind about Tyron Smith just when I 0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:03.320 want to say that Tyron Smith looks like he's, you know, 0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:07.640 twenty three years old. Again, something happens at a practice 0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:09.879 and you're going, well, when I can see him for 0:28:09.920 --> 0:28:12.280 a while, you know, and then I just can't. I 0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:15.119 can't bring myself to be at that level where I'm like, 0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:18.159 let's go, let's go with those five yeah, because I 0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:19.800 know something's probably gonna happen. 0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:23.199 Well, and then you also always hear the same words 0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:26.160 of like I feel better than I've ever felt, and 0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:30.480 that's just quite impossible after you sustain your body's sustained 0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:33.600 so many injuries. And I think that over the years, 0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:37.360 and to be fair, like Tyron Smith, he has still 0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:41.280 played at a pretty high level, I think, despite all 0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:45.320 his injuries. But over the past couple of years, I 0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:48.520 do think his game has kind of taken a dip, 0:28:48.680 --> 0:28:51.120 a decline. And I get it, Like even last year, 0:28:51.480 --> 0:28:53.840 him playing on the other side, you can see the 0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:56.960 difference in his game. He wasn't the same guy, which 0:28:57.000 --> 0:29:01.280 is fair. You get somebody that's always been playing on 0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:03.840 the other side and then you move him, that's gonna 0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:07.240 be a different You're gonna see a difference there. But 0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:11.320 to Nick scenario, I think we all agree that that's 0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:14.920 kind of a pretty impossible thing to imagine that that's 0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:17.360 gonna happen. But at the end of the day, and 0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:20.600 this always happens, to me where we sit here prior 0:29:20.640 --> 0:29:24.080 to even training camp or prior to the start of 0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:26.000 the season, and we're like, well, what are we gonna 0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:30.600 do with who's gonna play, what where? What's gonna happen? Somehow, someway, 0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:33.960 it always sorts itself out with the O line. I've 0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:37.800 learned and come to realize that it just always finds 0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:40.680 a way to kind of figure things out and things 0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:44.560 kind of start falling into place because something happens to somebody, 0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:46.120 and then now you're left. 0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:48.640 With what you got, which are the guys that are 0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:50.520 ready to get There's a lot of moving pieces though 0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:52.720 now because you have a new offensive line coach there, 0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:55.440 and you think kind of with Joe Philbin, I had 0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:58.160 an idea what they might do because with Joe Philben, 0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:00.640 but with Mike Solari, I'm not so sure. 0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:02.120 Now that's the thing. 0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:06.000 Now I'm going into all those adjustments that you're talking about, 0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:08.960 the ability to shuffle guys around, and Steven Jones talks 0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:10.520 about it all the time. Even on one oh five 0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:13.200 to three, the fan ask them the continuity question, says, 0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:15.080 you'd love continuity. Well, they've come to the point now 0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:18.080 they know they're not going to have continuity. That is 0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:20.880 the NFL today. You are not going to have continuity 0:30:20.880 --> 0:30:23.640 with your offensive line. There's always something that is going 0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:25.200 to happen, and you've got to be ready for it. 0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:27.200 All Right, we're gonna take our final break. We'll come back. 0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:29.640 We'll get some fan questions. We got those rolling in 0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:31.640 from Twitter. We'll be back, Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:36.400 The season is finally here. For months, we've been gearing 0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:38.760 up to win. Now it's time for the team that 0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:42.440 performs on any field. 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Up meeting celebrities. Here was the 0:34:30.080 --> 0:34:33.160 time I was watching film with Sting, the wrestler. 0:34:32.719 --> 0:34:34.920 That's the greatest, and he was in full steam. 0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:37.200 Gear and with the bat and everything, and I'm like, 0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:39.360 I hear he goes rumble, looks like he's stilling the 0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:41.000 ball pretty well. And I'm like, yeah, I think so. 0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:43.680 And I turned around and he's got full steing gear on. 0:34:44.000 --> 0:34:46.800 He's breaking down with me watching practice. 0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:48.920 That's the craziness of being in this building. You never know, 0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:52.480 you never know, never always interested in what you're doing 0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:54.240 because you're talking football, watching football. 0:34:54.280 --> 0:34:55.160 Yeah, that's well. 0:34:56.320 --> 0:34:58.200 Comes at training camp out in the tent. 0:34:58.280 --> 0:34:58.480 Yeah. 0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:01.799 Same the time to Chris Christie was the governor of 0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:03.920 the New Jersey, I say, I'm not trying to make 0:35:03.920 --> 0:35:06.239 a political thing. I'm sitting there one day watching tape 0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:08.120 on it and he comes walking by, just stops and 0:35:08.200 --> 0:35:09.600 kind of what are you doing here? 0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:11.160 And I introduced my SoCs Oh yeah, I know. 0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:13.680 I follow you on the on dot com. Yeah you 0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:15.839 like your work, you know, And I'm like, well, thank you, sir. 0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:18.640 You know you're sitting there watching tape, you know, Governor Jersey, 0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:20.000 hanging out watching a little tape. 0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:21.680 You know, you never know, you never know. 0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:25.160 It's like a little sports center commercials. It is everything. 0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:28.200 It really is, like like it was a while ago, 0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:30.160 but I just remember sitting there just working and then 0:35:30.200 --> 0:35:32.160 all of a sudden you can hear something happening, and 0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:36.160 rowdy on a scooter just comes whipping by. 0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:38.759 And you're just like, that's where we work, man, that's 0:35:38.760 --> 0:35:40.879 where we work. Where we were, It's just part of it, 0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:43.040 all right. Let's jump into a couple of fan questions. 0:35:43.040 --> 0:35:45.560 Actually got a phone call from Antoine and North Carolina. Antoine, 0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:46.000 what's up. 0:35:47.760 --> 0:35:47.920 Doing? 0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:56.040 Fellas? Not question to you, guys, does position flex Does 0:35:56.080 --> 0:35:59.400 that make a player come off better than someone that's 0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:02.920 a top rank player, or not top rank but rank 0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:06.479 above someone else? Do that make you alter your board 0:36:06.480 --> 0:36:06.880 a little? 0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:08.560 All right, thanks for the call. 0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:11.239 Yeah, I mean I think it does it, but also 0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:13.440 depends on the round. It also depends because if in 0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:16.440 the first round, like I think, it comes down to 0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:19.799 guys that are available to play right now, so I'd 0:36:19.880 --> 0:36:22.320 rather play a guy that's a better, let's say, guard 0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:25.800 right now at twenty six. But if you're talking second 0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:28.320 or third round, this guy is a guard, he's also 0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:31.239 a center, then I think position flex matters more. But 0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:33.120 if I'm drafting a guy in the first round, it's 0:36:33.160 --> 0:36:35.839 because I expect you to be playing on Week one, 0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:38.120 and so position flex doesn't matter as much. 0:36:38.120 --> 0:36:39.319 To be right, then, I. 0:36:39.239 --> 0:36:41.640 Think posision flex is good, but I've also seen it 0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:42.640 kind of wreck a career. 0:36:43.440 --> 0:36:45.120 I've seen Tyrone Crawford. 0:36:45.600 --> 0:36:47.719 They could never find a spot, and now they're dealing 0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:50.840 with these defensive backs, you know, with there trying to 0:36:50.840 --> 0:36:53.359 figure out where these guys are the corners or safeties 0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:55.040 and all that, and then the next thing you know, 0:36:55.120 --> 0:36:58.360 it's you never really found a position. Sometimes position flex 0:36:58.400 --> 0:37:02.319 means you're good enough, but it also can hurt you 0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:04.640 because you're never great at one spot. 0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:06.279 You're never great, you know. 0:37:06.360 --> 0:37:09.120 And I Tyron Crawford, he got a lot of money 0:37:09.120 --> 0:37:11.520 because of Rod MARINELI thought he could play the under 0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:14.440 tackle to the three. He just got too banged up. 0:37:14.480 --> 0:37:16.839 He couldn't play it because they kept trying to figure 0:37:16.880 --> 0:37:18.360 out where to play him. And I think his career 0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:19.400 got shortened because of that. 0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:23.400 Because we also, you're constantly having to change your physique, 0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:26.319 like your body because you change in weight. Okay, you're 0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:29.560 not gonna have the same body type for this position 0:37:29.600 --> 0:37:32.200 as opposed to that, which is something that I heard 0:37:32.280 --> 0:37:35.239 Tyron Crawford talk about a lot having to you know, 0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:37.359 one year we saw him gain weight a little bit. 0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:39.400 Next year he was losing weight. So it's just that 0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:41.840 back and forth having to change constantly. 0:37:42.000 --> 0:37:43.960 It could be a blessing and a curse all in 0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:45.600 the same time, depending on the player. 0:37:46.680 --> 0:37:48.880 Let's take a question from Mayo. He says, if the 0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:51.680 Cowboys draft a wide receiver in the first two rounds, 0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:54.560 does that make drafting a tight end less of a need? 0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:56.600 And he's thinking about target share. 0:37:56.400 --> 0:38:01.960 There possibly and goes back to what I had said before. 0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:04.600 If you don't draft the tight end in the first 0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:07.840 couple of rounds, now he comes in here, is he 0:38:07.960 --> 0:38:12.000 going to be better than what you've got? Possibly? I mean, 0:38:12.120 --> 0:38:15.600 I mean it's it's you could see that, but but 0:38:15.719 --> 0:38:17.520 I just think it's gonna be it's gonna be tough. Now, 0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:19.520 if you draft him the first couple of rounds, then yeah, 0:38:19.560 --> 0:38:21.960 that's why you're drafting him because you're expecting him. Is 0:38:22.000 --> 0:38:24.919 he That's what Jerry's gonna ask he He's gonna point 0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:27.080 is he is he better than what we've got with Ndershot? 0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:30.879 And Ferguson, Oh yeah, Jerry or whatever, then we draft him. 0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:33.719 But if he's not then then then you don't so 0:38:34.080 --> 0:38:36.359 to go back. I didn't answer the question though. I 0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:38.000 was just talking more about tight end. But if you 0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:40.240 get a receiver, yeah, that's just that's more targeted. 0:38:40.320 --> 0:38:42.839 The question that's going to be posed in the draft 0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:45.759 room by Jerry Jones's and they're gonna keep bringing it 0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:47.960 up and it could be a block, It could be 0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:48.360 a block. 0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:51.320 Here is where we are? Where are we with Tolbert? 0:38:51.920 --> 0:38:53.480 Where are we with Tolbert? He goes? 0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:55.839 You guys talked me into this in the third round. 0:38:55.840 --> 0:38:57.600 We have actually talked about this kid in the second 0:38:57.680 --> 0:39:00.000 round last year. I've made the determination we're going to 0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:03.359 take Sam Williams. We got Tolbert in the third. Where 0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:04.200 are we with Tolbert? 0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:06.600 Right now? Does everybody feel about Tolbert? What does everybody 0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:09.719 feel about Gallop? Right now? Was that just one off? 0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:12.480 Did we Is something really wrong with him? You know? 0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:15.359 That's the discussions that need to be had in the room. 0:39:15.440 --> 0:39:17.359 Not so much about would it, you know, would keep 0:39:17.360 --> 0:39:20.279 one guy from catching a ball, But if you're interested in, 0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:23.440 you know, adding a guy, Jerry's gonna ask that question, 0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:27.000 what about what about Tolbert? What about Ferguson, what about 0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:29.719 hinder Shot? You know, tell me about what are we 0:39:29.760 --> 0:39:31.799 gonna do here? When you are we adding something too? 0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:35.799 And so I kind of feel like though you just 0:39:35.920 --> 0:39:38.560 you make the determination. They they don't know what's gonna 0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:41.160 happen with Tolbert, They really don't, you know. 0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:44.600 I mean, I hope you hope that he plays to 0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:46.120 the level that you thought he was going to play 0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:47.480 when you're drafted him last year. 0:39:48.080 --> 0:39:51.840 And I also hope it doesn't deter them from taking 0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:53.360 a wide receiver that they really like. 0:39:54.400 --> 0:39:57.080 Well, tell them what is out there as far as 0:39:57.120 --> 0:40:00.239 like is it could it because we keep talking for 0:40:00.239 --> 0:40:03.640 the first round, we keep talking about tight end, we 0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:07.120 keep talking about the offensive lineman, even running back if 0:40:07.200 --> 0:40:10.799 somebody falls down. But as far as wide receivers, are 0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:13.600 someone that's talented enough to actually. 0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:16.319 Oh they got talented player, but you're taller than every 0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:18.560 one of them, you know that kind of That's that's 0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:19.800 the thing about this draft. 0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:21.759 That's that's the thing about this. 0:40:21.800 --> 0:40:24.640 Draft, that that you have to figure out of these 0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:28.880 five nine wide receivers, who who is going to be 0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:31.360 the one that fits the best. This coach has a 0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:35.239 history of not taking slot only wide receivers, but they 0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:39.320 visited Flowers from Boston College, kind of a slot only player, 0:40:39.920 --> 0:40:43.200 So you know, maybe things are changing. Maybe Mike McCarthy's like, hey, 0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:45.200 well we can work with this. We you know this 0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:49.880 players too talented. But Flowers, Boston College, Downs, North Carolina, 0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:52.759 Scott Cincinnati. Seriously, you're taller than all of them. 0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:53.520 You know. 0:40:53.880 --> 0:40:58.000 That's whoever figures this out. Whoever figures this out, it 0:40:58.040 --> 0:41:00.680 could have the best draft at wide receiver. But there's 0:41:00.719 --> 0:41:04.359 a lot of questions about the height and the weight 0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:09.520 of these wide receivers. Yeah, exactly, but slot only, right, yeah, 0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:13.759 only you know if they take if they take you know, 0:41:13.840 --> 0:41:14.480 if you if you. 0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:16.880 Take saying there are those guys, I can still be 0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:17.760 for that absolutely. 0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:19.640 But they got on a free agency I mean, yeah, 0:41:19.680 --> 0:41:20.640 that's exactly right. 0:41:20.760 --> 0:41:23.160 If if they're willing, did they did they take their 0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:27.120 receiver in Cooks. That's going to keep them from drafting 0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:30.520 somebody at twenty six. Yeah, that's that's what you but 0:41:30.640 --> 0:41:33.200 you know, that's that's the situation you're gonna have. And 0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:36.399 then throw in like I mentioned, you know the kid 0:41:36.440 --> 0:41:38.800 you drafted last year too. I mean that's going to 0:41:38.840 --> 0:41:40.600 be another question that has to be asked. 0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:43.359 Is there a zero percent chance that Ceedee Lamb does 0:41:43.400 --> 0:41:44.320 not get re signed. 0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:45.000 I don't. 0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:47.279 I don't, Yes, zero He's. 0:41:47.080 --> 0:41:51.200 Back, right, And that's Hollard. I don't think so, hollar See. 0:41:51.360 --> 0:41:53.000 I think I think. 0:41:52.800 --> 0:41:54.759 That's where I think that's where if you talk about 0:41:54.880 --> 0:41:57.000 running back and you say, whoever you draft, and this 0:41:57.080 --> 0:41:59.960 draft is deep in running backs, whoever you take it run, 0:42:00.400 --> 0:42:02.280 I think will be your starting running back in twenty 0:42:02.320 --> 0:42:04.840 twenty four. I don't think it'll be Tony Pollard. I 0:42:04.880 --> 0:42:07.319 really Stephen Jones talks about what we'd like to get 0:42:07.320 --> 0:42:08.080 Tony done. 0:42:08.440 --> 0:42:11.160 I could see this being just like Dalton Schultz. Yeah, 0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:12.760 we don't want to lose the weapon. 0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:15.399 You know, there's some questions about his injury coming back, 0:42:15.440 --> 0:42:17.600 but him, Britt Brown, those guys will work their rears 0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:20.320 off to get back on on the field. But there's 0:42:20.400 --> 0:42:22.040 I think that you know, it's going to be a 0:42:22.040 --> 0:42:25.680 situation where Tony Pollard making the money now ten million dollars, 0:42:25.840 --> 0:42:29.000 Tony Pollard might be fortunate to get ten million dollars 0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:29.760 for three years. 0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:33.200 You know, in the next time around yeah, and free agency. 0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:37.439 Yeah, running backs and agents. I mean, it's a really 0:42:37.480 --> 0:42:40.120 tough situation for these agents to kind of figure out 0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:42.560 the best thing because a lot of these guys they 0:42:42.560 --> 0:42:44.200 see the guy next to him in their locker and 0:42:44.440 --> 0:42:47.399 he's a different position. He's like, second contract is time 0:42:47.440 --> 0:42:50.160 to get the bag. As a running back, you want 0:42:50.160 --> 0:42:51.920 to stay in the league, and the best way to 0:42:51.960 --> 0:42:54.279 stay in the league is maybe to take, like Brian said, 0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:57.000 a deal that's it's like this will this will protect 0:42:57.040 --> 0:43:00.279 you because Zeke was like and Zeke deserved it. They 0:43:00.440 --> 0:43:03.000 ran him to death. He and he deserved that money 0:43:03.040 --> 0:43:06.480 that he got. But it's tough when you're at this 0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:08.759 this part in their career. I mean, you look at 0:43:08.800 --> 0:43:11.040 the top ten players on this team as far as 0:43:11.160 --> 0:43:14.759 experience on the team, Tony Pollard's eighth. I still view 0:43:14.840 --> 0:43:17.640 him as kind of a younger guy. He's the eighth 0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:21.080 most tenured player on this team, tied for you know others. 0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:23.319 But like, what did that? When did that happen? Isn't 0:43:23.320 --> 0:43:25.440 he this young, shy guy that his parents are a 0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:28.719 barbecue place in Memphis and no, now now he's so. 0:43:28.800 --> 0:43:31.239 They figured out how to use Yeah, it kind of 0:43:31.320 --> 0:43:32.440 it took you kind of figure out. 0:43:32.480 --> 0:43:33.760 They figured out how to finally used. 0:43:33.640 --> 0:43:35.919 Him, man, And that might be actually the reason why 0:43:35.960 --> 0:43:37.960 he actually does have a shot at the second contract, 0:43:38.000 --> 0:43:39.719 because they didn't use him as much as they have 0:43:39.840 --> 0:43:41.799 used traditionally used back to the NFL in the first 0:43:41.840 --> 0:43:42.239 few years. 0:43:42.320 --> 0:43:44.799 What I want to see is is this year's I 0:43:44.840 --> 0:43:46.920 want to I want to know who's this year's Tony 0:43:47.000 --> 0:43:50.279 Pollard in terms of because I was told they, you know, 0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:52.759 they do mock drafts for the next two weeks here 0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:55.080 before leading up to the draft. In every mock draft 0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:57.640 they did, Tony Pollard was drafted in the third or 0:43:57.680 --> 0:44:00.799 fourth round every single time they they wanted to take 0:44:00.840 --> 0:44:03.799 Tony Powler. I just wanted, who's this year's guy, that 0:44:03.880 --> 0:44:07.200 guy that we're taking him? Well, regardless, Switzer was another 0:44:07.239 --> 0:44:07.960 guy like that too. 0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:09.440 That Yeah, you know, if you want to throw if 0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:11.359 you want to throw something out there like that, because 0:44:11.360 --> 0:44:13.640 there's plenty of opportunity. There's you know, when you look 0:44:13.640 --> 0:44:15.440 at the draft and we have the draft show coming 0:44:15.520 --> 0:44:17.440 up after our show and we get into these running 0:44:17.480 --> 0:44:21.120 backs a lot. You know, Derek is his school Roshan Johnson. 0:44:21.520 --> 0:44:26.520 If you as much as I love Jon Robinson, Roshan Johnson. 0:44:26.560 --> 0:44:27.960 You know when you when you start to look at 0:44:28.000 --> 0:44:30.480 how they're using and how that's a guy right there, 0:44:30.480 --> 0:44:32.640 when you start talking about that third round could be 0:44:32.680 --> 0:44:33.360 a really. 0:44:33.080 --> 0:44:35.520 Sweet spot if you're nowhere and tear right. No, that's 0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:35.960 what I'm saying. 0:44:35.960 --> 0:44:38.759 You got great complimentary, great compliment back. 0:44:38.800 --> 0:44:41.960 He catches the ball, he's always finishing forward. 0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:43.400 They did a great job. 0:44:43.200 --> 0:44:45.919 At Texas using both those backs and featuring really both 0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:46.399 those backs. 0:44:46.440 --> 0:44:46.839 Yep, yep. 0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:48.120 And I think it's going to help ro Shan in 0:44:48.120 --> 0:44:50.560 the NFL. I really do. Guy came out of high 0:44:50.560 --> 0:44:53.319 schools as a quarterback, yeah, and transition to running back. 0:44:53.320 --> 0:44:54.600 So he's a bigger guy, taller guy. 0:44:54.640 --> 0:44:54.920 All Right. 0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:56.640 I appreciate you guys going to be back next week 0:44:57.000 --> 0:44:59.960 heading into the draft. It'll be draft week. Well we'll talk. 0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:02.040 We's got some names next week. We'll get Brian and 0:45:02.120 --> 0:45:03.960 Nick and Amber to give you guys some names on 0:45:04.040 --> 0:45:04.640 some players they. 0:45:04.600 --> 0:45:07.520 Expect to I don't know if this anymore. 0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:11.200 Call out on Thursday night, Friday night, and then again 0:45:11.239 --> 0:45:13.000 on Saturday till then for Nick Ea WHN Brian brought 0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:15.120 to Sambergarcia. I'm Derek eagleson This has been The Break 0:45:15.280 --> 0:45:17.200 live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 0:45:17.920 --> 0:45:20.920 This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 0:45:21.040 --> 0:45:22.879 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.